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Speaker 2: The Worlds of Vegetal podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: If Heaven could just play this out in like a computer,

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Speaker 3: you'd rather do that.

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Speaker 4: But I'd rather just play the game and not deal

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Speaker 4: with all the other nonsense.

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Speaker 5: We're back, baby, yeah, but that's part of the fun.

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Speaker 1: We're back in the mix of it.

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Speaker 5: Like, you're too young.

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Speaker 6: I literally was physically in New Orleans when they won

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Speaker 6: their first Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: But I'm too young.

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Speaker 7: It would be easy just to you know, I'm watching

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Speaker 7: a random Bruins game on a Friday night with nothing

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Speaker 7: to do, and hey.

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Speaker 8: Put a couple of bikes on it.

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Speaker 5: You might be tapping that appy it didn't work for

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Speaker 5: a team.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know. I've never seen something like that.

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Speaker 9: But if you look at the injury coort, everyone had

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Speaker 9: hamster injury. Okay, if that allowed the league allow that?

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Speaker 10: Are you allowed to have a hamsterm injury?

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Speaker 8: You can hate Rogers, you scout.

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Speaker 10: I don't really hate watch a lot.

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Speaker 5: What will make Patriots fans more upset? That's what I

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Speaker 5: want to have.

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Speaker 10: So okay, so argue with the listeners and what can

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Speaker 10: what can?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 10: What do we pick? What do we do?

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, Texans win Rogers doesn't even

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Speaker 3: finish the game, and it's not because the score.

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Speaker 10: Wow, jeez, nobody roots for injuries like they read. Outside

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Speaker 10: of Lucas Oil Stadium next to a trash barrel, just

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Speaker 10: with his head down, just strut who it wasn't a

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Speaker 10: member of the show. It was used to produce the show.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, because he was drunk.

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Speaker 5: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 5: at chi Lets Stadium and the season continues. Seventy five

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Speaker 5: percent of the teams are on vacation.

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Speaker 8: Eight left.

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Speaker 5: The Patriots are one of them. Baby, shut up all

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Speaker 5: those haters, right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Them all up, shut up, take that soft schedule and

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Speaker 4: shove it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right. We're here.

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Speaker 5: Just beat one of the best defenses in the league

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Speaker 5: and one of our in our defense.

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Speaker 10: Shut down.

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Speaker 8: Who saw that coming? Justin herman?

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Speaker 4: Do you know who's on the fraud watch is justin her.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you think is gonna happen in the playoffs is

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Speaker 3: probably not gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: So this is unbelievable. We're on to the Houston Texans

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Speaker 5: on on Sunday three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: And here we go, Here we go. I mean, next

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Speaker 3: stop AFC Championship. If you ask me, oh boy, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'll do my Thursday pick right now.

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Speaker 7: I haven't even worked myself up the Texans yet.

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Speaker 8: I'm getting I'll be there by tomorrow. I'm very concerned.

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Speaker 5: Forget about tomorrow. Give it an hour.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's get right into it. It's Evan, it's Paul,

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Speaker 3: it's me, it's Deuce, it's Matt and Alex. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean six to three. No one saw that coming,

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Speaker 3: no one saw that result coming. But here we are

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Speaker 3: headed to the Divisional Round final eight. Feeling good, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: feeling really good about this team. I know, like you

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Speaker 3: would hope that they'd have more than sixteen points, but listen,

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Speaker 3: is everybody's first playoff game. Now you got that under

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Speaker 3: your belt. I'm looking for more offensive production next week.

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Speaker 5: I feel good.

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Speaker 8: I feel good too.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the way the defense played it was really encouraging,

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Speaker 7: just to see them kind of come back to that form.

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Speaker 7: But to me, it was a great sign of just

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Speaker 7: I mean, and this is a defensive and we all

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Speaker 7: about what just take the points. It's you know, there's

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Speaker 7: not gonna be nineteen points scored in this game and

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Speaker 7: you're passing up three of them. But just an outstanding

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the fact that they could win a

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Speaker 6: to win four straight games playing one way. You're gonna

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Speaker 6: that declare different ways. This declared as a defensive battle,

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Speaker 6: and their defense made more plays than the Chargers defense did,

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Speaker 4: And you might have to win it that way. You know,

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Speaker 6: So the fact that they were able to win a

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Speaker 6: that most of us thought.

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Speaker 4: They would win by.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the defense was by far and away the best

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Speaker 10: they haven't approached anything like that. Hats off to Zach Korr.

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Speaker 10: This is my big message in the postgame show before

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Speaker 10: all the different stuff that they did. Listening to Robert

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Speaker 10: after the game, saying that we didn't know what you've.

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Speaker 4: Said A really good question you ever asked that? Oh,

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Speaker 10: You know, just the Chargers players telling the Splaine that

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Speaker 10: and that's what it looked like. I thought Herbert was

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Speaker 7: Inordinate you know, coordinating, the rush was making them sorry,

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Speaker 8: Limping on it.

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Speaker 13: This one.

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Speaker 5: He got his ass kicked.

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Speaker 6: He did, so, Yeah, Herbert had did not see the

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Speaker 8: I mean, I heard some talk that they looked unprepared.

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Speaker 5: I think they're certainly more prepared for what we did.

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Speaker 5: They said it.

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Speaker 6: I think the bigger thing though, was it's so clear

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Speaker 6: And he just wasn't willing to do that. So he

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Speaker 4: But he didn't miss quite a few throws.

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Speaker 6: But it was because they had him sped up and

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Speaker 3: I thought they were going to force the charges into

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Speaker 5: You know, I didn't think it would be because of

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Speaker 3: I thought they would just feel, you know, anxious, because

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Speaker 10: very critical of Harbaugh not just kicking a field goal

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Speaker 10: and I thought that was sort of emblematic of the

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Speaker 10: entire game offensively for the Chargers. They just didn't look

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Speaker 10: they didn't know exactly what they were doing against what

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Speaker 10: the Patriots were doing, and that again is a testament

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Speaker 10: to the preparation. We talked to calebon Chasin after the

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Speaker 10: making it easy to understand what they wanted to do. Again,

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Speaker 10: just dominant performance by the defense.

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Speaker 6: their offensive coordinator, I think is going to be on

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 6: It was ugly for Chargers perspective, but there was just

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Speaker 6: a lot of instances where Herbert's eyes were just down

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Speaker 6: I mean, he had Lad McConkey on a scramble drill

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Speaker 8: But you know, guy like.

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Speaker 5: So those are all the good things really quickly.

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Speaker 8: Didn't look like an ankle engine anymore at all.

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Speaker 5: Perfect pass, perfect pass.

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Speaker 4: Uh So that was that was really cool.

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Speaker 5: You're kind of game dues.

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Speaker 7: I know, it's interesting that just watching those kind of

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Speaker 10: That's what it was. Reminded me that maybe he doesn't

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Speaker 6: Suggest I can't believe Derwin even came close to that,

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Speaker 10: It, that was in the combine.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, it really did play out a lot like

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Speaker 8: Three and then seam it's it's the Henry times.

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Speaker 4: The adjustment that they made was exactly the same. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, how about Remondri too, Like I just I feel

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Speaker 8: He really he's going to be another productive, another piece

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Speaker 10: The catches have been really really big. Checkdown really big.

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Speaker 6: He still had three hundred and thirty yards of total

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Speaker 10: And he also put the ball in Harm's way too often.

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Speaker 10: Then throws them the play to Quinton Johnston that Gonzo

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Speaker 15: Win with it.

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Speaker 7: just love when you have a great year and then

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Speaker 7: you get into the playoffs and you keep doing it.

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Speaker 8: He does, he does.

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Speaker 7: And just this new level of physicality that I think

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Speaker 7: they scramble in the red zone was I mean, how

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Speaker 7: like I mean, that's a one on one tackle with

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Speaker 7: Justin Herbert. Freight rank coming to you and you've perfectly

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Speaker 7: executed a tackle to keep him down.

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Speaker 8: I mean that was remarkable. Fearless, Yeah, fearless.

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Speaker 10: Another example to me, and I made a big deal

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Speaker 10: of though, that there was three plays from Marcus Jones. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: because you guys know, I have a little bit of

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Speaker 10: a brush on it. So I made a big deal

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Speaker 10: of it. But that's another example of Herbert had an

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Speaker 10: opportunity to make a play. You have to score on.

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Speaker 8: That, right, Marcus Jones in.

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Speaker 10: The cornerback, chop it out there. You have to go

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Speaker 10: over him. There's no way that Josh Allen doesn't score

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Speaker 10: on that. Yeah, there's no way.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 8: It was another one I saw too.

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Speaker 7: Maybe you caught this one was they had vital and

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Speaker 7: pass protection.

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Speaker 8: And Marcus Jones just blew him up.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's like five eight on five eight and

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Speaker 7: they're like, oh, this is kind a funny matchup, and

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Speaker 7: Marcus Jones blasted him.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: So it's just he's playing outstanding and I'd love to

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Speaker 7: see him this week, maybe help the special teams. I

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Speaker 7: think that's an area maybe you can get some hidden yardage,

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Speaker 7: hidden points.

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Speaker 10: I thought that was another very underrated thing because you

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Speaker 10: look at his punt returns. He didn't have any yardage,

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Speaker 10: but I thought he was again really effective with his

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Speaker 10: decision making. There was one late in the half. It's

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Speaker 10: three to three. Again you're in that rock fight, and

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Speaker 10: it's a terrible punt by the Chargers guy. How many

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Speaker 10: times do you see those bounce and they take a

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Speaker 10: twenty yard bounce? Zulten Mesco made a career out of

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Speaker 10: every published to call it the Romanian biltan. So but

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Speaker 10: here here comes Marcus Jones flying up. Probably would have

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Speaker 10: liked to have seen him call a fair catch and

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Speaker 10: catch it, but he doesn't secures it, probably save twenty

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Speaker 10: twenty five yards of field position. They end up taking

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Speaker 10: over near midfield. Shortly thereafter, May takes off on like

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Speaker 10: a thirty five yard scramble and you get a cheap

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Speaker 10: three points, all because you're a punt returner makes good decisions.

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Speaker 10: It wasn't like he didn't have a twenty five yard

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Speaker 10: return to get the midfield, but he saved twenty five

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Speaker 10: yards of field position by going off to field. And

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Speaker 10: he does that every time.

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Speaker 5: Instead of fielding one. I think he let one bounce

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Speaker 5: into the end zone. Yeah, he could judge him.

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Speaker 7: I mean punt returning in the NFL is one of

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Speaker 7: the skills in professional sports that just absolutely blows my mind.

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Speaker 7: He is watching the lost how Marcus Jones can catch

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Speaker 7: that ball and then get absolutely hammered by a guy

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Speaker 7: who's running full speed down the field and or make

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Speaker 7: somebody miss like I just that to me is an

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Speaker 7: athletic feet that I am consistently in awe of the

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Speaker 7: lost art.

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Speaker 4: The guy on the bear is pretty good do for days.

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Speaker 10: He's pretty good.

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Speaker 6: But there's not a lot of them that especially the

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Speaker 6: things we're talking about in terms of like deaking on

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Speaker 6: backup on the goal line or fair catching it to

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Speaker 6: feel save the field position. Like there's guys that can return, obviously,

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Speaker 6: but there's not guys that know the art of it

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Speaker 6: like he does.

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Speaker 10: That was a thirty three yard punt. Do you know

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Speaker 10: how short that is in the NFL? And he was

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Speaker 10: up to make sure it didn't hit the ground. That's

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Speaker 10: a great play, right. There was a two yard return.

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Speaker 10: Nothing special about the return, but it allows you to

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Speaker 10: take over at the forty six yard line. That directly

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Speaker 10: leads to three points in a game that was three

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Speaker 10: to three at the time. That's a that's a big

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Speaker 10: play and he does that kind of stuff consistently, all right, eight.

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Speaker 3: Five five PATS five hundred is the hotline podcast at

523
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Speaker 3: Patriots dot com is the email address.

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Speaker 5: I think I think it feels like we should just

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Speaker 5: open it up right yeah, to the listeners right now? Sure,

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Speaker 5: I mean, anything else you need to put on the

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Speaker 5: table here, I mean we can talk a little bit

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Speaker 5: about it. I think you know, I had a what

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Speaker 5: do you think the chances are that Tomlin parts ways

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Speaker 5: with the Steelers and Harbaugh and he flip flop goes

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Speaker 5: to the Steelers.

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Speaker 10: I think there's yeah, I think there's a chance that

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Speaker 10: Tomlin could could step away. I think there's Man, I

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Speaker 10: don't know, twenty I don't see them switching.

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Speaker 6: I just I think they're if they're going to step

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Speaker 6: away from that kind of coach, you're going to try

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Speaker 6: to go into a different direction, you would think in

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Speaker 6: terms of the style of higher that you make. Like

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Speaker 6: at that point, they're like doing the Spider Man man

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Speaker 6: like these people are the same people.

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Speaker 8: Like, Okay, bringing up a tough coach.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna need to explain to me.

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Speaker 8: Later, Spider you know, Spider Man point and Spider.

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Speaker 3: Man theme where they say each other the two Spider

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Speaker 3: Man's No, you never saw that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, can I put one one later?

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Speaker 8: Little they want to play put it.

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Speaker 4: It's not nitpick. It's more of a concern than nitpick.

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Speaker 6: The Chargers completely took digs out of this game, and

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Speaker 6: they he got the wide receiver one treatment.

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Speaker 4: He was getting doubled, he's getting bracketed.

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Speaker 6: They're dropping guys off the line of scrimmage into his

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Speaker 6: area of the field. And you know, I thought that

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Speaker 6: early on in this game, in the first half. It

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Speaker 6: threw them off, the Patriots. It threw them off because

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, he's going to be number one

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Speaker 6: in the progression a lot, and when one isn't there,

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Speaker 6: you know that that often can throw quarterbacks off. And

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Speaker 6: whether it's trying to figure out ways to get digs

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Speaker 6: open or understanding you know, okay, they're going to probably

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Speaker 6: double digs on this third down. So I'm gonna have

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Speaker 6: to start with my eyes going elsewhere. I haven't seen

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Speaker 6: a Patriot receiver get this much attention in a in

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Speaker 6: a game in a long time. You know, he was,

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Speaker 6: he was getting bodies at him all the time, and

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Speaker 6: so I'm interested to see how that continues as we

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Speaker 6: move forward. You know, just watching the Texans a little

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Speaker 6: bit this morning, they did double DK quite a bit,

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Speaker 6: and I would just imagine they're going to just copy

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Speaker 6: paste what they did to DK and they're gonna paste

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Speaker 6: it down on Stefan Diggs this week.

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Speaker 10: So it's not enough from the other guys to overcome

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Speaker 10: that year.

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Speaker 6: I think Booty did make a couple plays, and you

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Speaker 6: know a lot of those were at least one of them,

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Speaker 6: the forty two yarder was on a play that Diggs

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Speaker 6: was doubled on, so they were able to take advantage

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Speaker 6: of it a little bit. But that's I think how

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Speaker 6: teams are going to make them. You know, win is

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Speaker 6: we're going to take eight out.

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Speaker 4: Diggs is not beating us, you know. Can it be Booty?

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Speaker 4: Can it be Hunter Henry?

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Speaker 6: You know there's no Mac Collins right now, so it's

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Speaker 6: got to be one of these other guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd just love to see I know, you guys

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Speaker 5: make fun of me, but just some real quick slants

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Speaker 5: just to get it out of Drake May's hands really quick.

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Speaker 5: They're almost impossible to cover.

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Speaker 10: I don't make fun of you for that. It's usually

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Speaker 10: the guy that you say, could catch ten passes a

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Speaker 10: game that I tend to make fun of.

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Speaker 6: That's what the charges were taking away. They or that's

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Speaker 6: what they were taking away. And all the little options

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Speaker 6: and all the little choice routes that they run with

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Speaker 6: digs that are over the middle that are designed to

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Speaker 6: get the ball out of his hands quickly. They had

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Speaker 6: you know, two guys on them for most of them,

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Speaker 6: so you know that was you know, Drake May said

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Speaker 6: after the game that he felt like he held the

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Speaker 6: ball a lot, and I thought he held the ball

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Speaker 6: because of the coverage. You know, they were taking away

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Speaker 6: one and so he had to progress two three, and

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Speaker 6: in this game against Houston to do that, it's one

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Speaker 6: two and.

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Speaker 10: Go, like there was no do right.

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Speaker 8: I know you can feel it right, you were.

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Speaker 10: You were listening to the broadcast. I know you always

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Speaker 10: have your TV on, but sometimes yeah, so were they

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Speaker 10: making you know, from talking to some people talking not

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Speaker 10: like football people like talking was like no, like my friends,

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Speaker 10: I want to, I don't want to, you know, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 10: well I was talking to Bill felt. No you weren't.

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Speaker 10: You were in a press conference. You listened just like

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Speaker 10: everybody else. But so I don't want to make it

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Speaker 10: sound like this was a football thing. This is just

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Speaker 10: like people making observations, and they said that College WITHO

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Speaker 10: was making a big deal of bolts sides. Herbert in

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Speaker 10: May was sort of you're not going to be able

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Speaker 10: to sit back there for twenty minutes and dissect what's

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Speaker 10: going on. If if what you see is not there,

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Speaker 10: then tucket and run. That seemed to be like the

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Speaker 10: game plan going in and both guys, you know, were

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Speaker 10: fairly productive running the ball. But I wonder if maybe, yeah,

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Speaker 10: he the coverage was was more of an issue in

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Speaker 10: this game than than I think we've been given it credit.

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Speaker 3: I think a couple of times he mentioned the legs

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Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks are going to be the determining factor

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Speaker 3: of the.

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Speaker 6: Game, Collinsworth mentioned that, Yeah, I wouldn't say that. I

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Speaker 6: think Drake may had more of an opposite problem in

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Speaker 6: this game. I think he was taking too much time

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Speaker 6: in the pocket. I mean they're getting strips ACKed like that.

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Speaker 10: Oh, I think he was too casual in the pocket.

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Speaker 10: They would They were talking more so about the second

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Speaker 10: part for Herbert. Yeah, and I think that that was

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Speaker 10: a problem for him because I think that he didn't

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Speaker 10: let things develop talking.

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Speaker 3: About early on, I thought the offensive line did a

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Speaker 3: pretty good job protecting. I thought, but he had time

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Speaker 3: and almost got too comfortable.

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Speaker 5: Back there, you're.

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Speaker 10: Talking about Herbert or may may Well. I didn't think

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Speaker 10: the protection was very good in this.

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Speaker 5: I thought earlier it was.

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Speaker 3: I thought he had time, he just didn't have anybody open,

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Speaker 3: and then he just didn't do anything with it.

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Speaker 10: And to me, it's not even that their covered sacks

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Speaker 10: as much as once the pressure has established itself, in

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Speaker 10: other words, someone's on his legs or someone's around him,

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Speaker 10: the play's got to end there. But you can't have

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Speaker 10: the fumbles when it's like the second guy hitting the.

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Speaker 8: Quarterback can't happen this week. It cannot happen this dame.

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Speaker 10: That's what they're looking for, you know. Yep, Like in

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Speaker 10: Houston's having the same conversation. Houston's offense was actually pretty

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Speaker 10: good last night against Pittsburgh. I mean, I think they

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Speaker 10: would take four hundred yards of offense and the amount

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Speaker 10: of drives they had just true. You can't have your

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Speaker 10: quarterback fumble five times because he's playing like a moron.

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Speaker 10: And that's I'm sorry, that's what it was. He played

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Speaker 10: a terrible game, and if they do that again, they're

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Speaker 10: gonna lose. You can't win by putting the ball in

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Speaker 10: harm's way six times with your quarterback.

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Speaker 8: Actually the snaps snaps, I mean five times.

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Speaker 4: There was two bad snaps, five.

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Speaker 10: Fumbles, but he had he had five fumbles and a pick.

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Speaker 6: Yes, And it was bizarre and it was just yes,

667
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 6: like that was They weren't like the most perfect snaps

668
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Speaker 6: every time.

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Speaker 10: One of the most times one of them was snapped

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Speaker 10: when he wasn't looking, and I don't think that goes

671
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Speaker 10: on him as one of the fumbles, but the others

672
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 10: were just like right in his hands. You know, it

673
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Speaker 10: was a shame. You talk about trick plays like the

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Speaker 10: Patriots had one dialed up and Drake is wide open,

675
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 10: you know, touchdown. The Texans had a touchdown on the

676
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 10: flea flicker last night. But you know what threw that

677
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 10: playoff was the flip back to the quarterback was too high,

678
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 10: you see, like he kind of like, yeah, it's like

679
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 10: in baseball when the first basement leads the pitcher, you

680
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 10: don't want to loop it and throw his stride off.

681
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 10: He got too much air under it, and that's why

682
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Speaker 10: he ended up getting stripsacked on that play. If he

683
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Speaker 10: had just thrown it right to to Stroud, I think

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Speaker 10: he would have been able to throw it and the

685
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Speaker 10: guy was open. Did That's never know because it was

686
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Speaker 10: a strip sick?

687
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Speaker 8: Did that surprise you guys at all that in a

688
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 8: playoff game they let f and Chisholm throw a pass

689
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 8: to Drake May I was a little bit surprised by that.

690
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Speaker 5: Well, that's the point you want to be surprised.

691
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 4: I knew someone was up when he lined up out wide.

692
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Speaker 10: I was like, why is he blocking?

693
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Speaker 6: And of course it's seconds it's a double pass and

694
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Speaker 6: I was like, okay, that explains it.

695
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: You know, it was weird, like he was.

696
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 10: Just another one that wasn't blocked well enough. There was

697
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 10: way too much penetration on the left side, which I

698
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 10: don't blame Chisholm on like he I think he did

699
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 10: a good job making sure he got got the ball

700
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Speaker 10: away and didn't take a loss.

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Speaker 6: Those are tough ones because of the illegal man downfield penalties,

702
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 6: so like you can't really engage the blocks like right

703
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 6: away because of the reverse because then if you get

704
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 6: down the field, then even if he hits Drake, then

705
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 6: it's going to get called a penalty and it's going

706
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Speaker 6: to get wiped out. But as soon as I saw

707
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Speaker 6: how wide, I was like, well that ain't normal. And

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Speaker 6: then of course, you know, run a trip.

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Speaker 8: All right again?

710
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Speaker 5: Eight five to five Pats five hundred. Let's open it up.

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Speaker 5: We'll start with Dan in Daytona. What's up Dan?

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Speaker 9: Hey you guys, how you guys doing to that?

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Speaker 15: We keep it pretty short today.

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Speaker 16: I got a couple of things I wanted to mention. First,

715
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Speaker 16: I love the team defense. That was amazing and uh,

716
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Speaker 16: I think every sports broadcaster was saying that they did

717
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 16: not expect them from the Patriots. Second thing, Mark Mabel

718
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 16: was pretty funny at the end with the Millton Williams.

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Speaker 16: The third thing, Drake May with the strips, acts like

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Speaker 16: you guys kind of I think they should clean that up.

721
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Speaker 16: And then the last thing I have for you guys

722
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Speaker 16: is Ben Brown. I think there's no question he has

723
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Speaker 16: to be in if we're gonna win against texcause I

724
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Speaker 16: just watched him last week. It was for yesterday and

725
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Speaker 16: they made Aaron Rodgers look bad.

726
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Speaker 17: So what do you guys think about that?

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Speaker 10: Well?

728
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Speaker 7: See, I mean I wonder if the coaching staff feels

729
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 7: like Jerry Wilson missed a couple of weeks, and yeah

730
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 7: that it was in his best effort. But with the

731
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Speaker 7: playoff game under his belt and knocking the rust off,

732
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Speaker 7: maybe they believe that he'll be better this week. But

733
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Speaker 7: I agree that the challenge is only going to get

734
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Speaker 7: harder for these two guys, and you know, maybe you

735
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Speaker 7: got to live with some lumps.

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Speaker 8: We've been saying it all.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I will just say I like the fact that

738
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Speaker 7: one of the biggest stories coming into the season was

739
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Speaker 7: the Patriots having to remake the offensive line, and we

740
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 7: plenty of time debating Will Campbell and would he be

741
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Speaker 7: the left tackle?

742
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Speaker 8: And you know, really, now, what's standing in front of

743
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Speaker 8: you to.

744
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 7: Get to the AFC Championship is largely a sound offensive

745
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 7: line performance and protection in this game.

746
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Speaker 8: So it's like when those things come.

747
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Speaker 3: Full circle, and yeah, it'll be a true test, true

748
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: test Todd's and Gardner.

749
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Speaker 5: What's up, Todd?

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Speaker 18: I got three quick points. I did say that this

751
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 18: was going to be a slobber knocker if for our

752
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 18: outside receivers didn't get at least two touchdowns. So I

753
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Speaker 18: kind of felt that this game was going to be

754
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Speaker 18: tough if we couldn't get somebody other than you know

755
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 18: dig is in our tight ends going. Okay, I think

756
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Speaker 18: you'll remember we called it a slobber knocker.

757
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Speaker 5: Slabber knocker, that's correct, yep.

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00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: So the next thing is I would like the uh,

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Speaker 18: the brawl between Fred and Paul over Chisholm to have

761
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Speaker 18: a name like the you know thrilla in Manila. I

762
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Speaker 18: think we need to call it maybe the Chisholm Schism

763
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Speaker 18: or something. And you guys need to revisit that a

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Speaker 18: few times.

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Speaker 10: Because I gotta be honest, I don't have enough invested

766
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Speaker 10: in that one to I can argue anything, but I

767
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Speaker 10: don't care enough about that one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: And the third thing is kind of for everybody but

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Speaker 18: deuced because he's just a d guy than you. What

771
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Speaker 18: the pressure?

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Speaker 15: What can they do to stop the pressure.

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Speaker 18: That the Texans are going to try to bring? Like

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Speaker 18: are they going to do a lot of chipping? What

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Speaker 18: do you guys think?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 18: What is can they move the pocket? Can they do

778
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Speaker 18: like a combination of things? What do they need to

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Speaker 18: do to keep that textan well? Keep them out of

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Speaker 18: Maya space? And that's it, great show, guys.

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Speaker 3: Receivers Open was established the run, so that play action

782
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Speaker 3: could like a little bit of a meaning.

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Speaker 8: Like that, just.

784
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Speaker 10: Say, and I don't want to waste place.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think you have to stay balanced, and

786
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Speaker 6: I think that that will be important kind of like

787
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 6: they did in this game against the Chargers. It wasn't

788
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Speaker 6: like a great rushing effort, but at least they were

789
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Speaker 6: getting like three or four yards pop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to keep balanced.

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Speaker 10: Even Sitt and Henderson averaged about like four to one,

792
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Speaker 10: you know, which is was eight I think they had,

793
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Speaker 10: so it was you know, I think nineteen for eighty.

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Speaker 6: They had even more effective than Henderson by following. But

795
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 6: that is you know, when you go up against a

796
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Speaker 6: great run defense like these two defenses, if you're averaging

797
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 6: four yards of carry, then you're doing your job on

798
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Speaker 6: the ground.

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Speaker 4: Rh just stay on schedule.

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Speaker 10: And just players that can't he can't get sacked. You know,

801
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Speaker 10: I don't want to abandon the run because they I

802
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 10: think Evan's right, Yeah, I think you get some value

803
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Speaker 10: in that one thing, you know. I mean, I know

804
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 10: Wednesdays usually when we looked ahead to the net, but

805
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Speaker 10: I mean in the playoffs, yeah, it's the playoffs. It's

806
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 10: about the Texans now, right, you move on and it's

807
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 10: the next one. I thought watching the game last night,

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Speaker 10: I mean, I was incredibly impressed with Houston's defense like

809
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 10: everybody else. So I'm not telling you, but like any

810
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 10: defense is beatable if you can execute. And I thought

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Speaker 10: there was a handful of times last night that Aaron

812
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 10: Rodgers did a good job, either by design. There was

813
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Speaker 10: one that they rolled him out, and I think he

814
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 10: had like a nice little drag route by Metcalf for

815
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Speaker 10: like twenty five yards, and there was other times that

816
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 10: he did a good job avoiding that edge pressure that

817
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 10: sort of materialized right away and he broke the pocket.

818
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 10: Now the problem for Rogers now at whatever year twenty

819
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 10: or whatever it is, he just doesn't have it anymore

820
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 10: to be able to operate as well off platform. He

821
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Speaker 10: was at one time as good as anybody doing that.

822
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Speaker 10: He can't do that anymore. Drake may can't. So you're

823
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Speaker 10: asking me what can they do? Do they move the pocket?

824
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 10: I think that Josh would probably be wise to move

826
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Speaker 10: the pocket a couple of times. I also think Drake's

827
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 10: going to have some opportunity is where Will Anderson and

828
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 10: Daniel Hunter are going to beat their guys. But he's

829
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Speaker 10: not going to get sacked. Now what happens. Now you

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00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 10: get those opportunities to make some plays. And I do

831
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Speaker 10: think the one area that the Texans looked like a

832
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 10: little vulnerable to me is down the field. I think

833
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 10: you can beat them over the top. I think the

834
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 10: Steelers had a couple of guys open over the top

835
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Speaker 10: last night and one Rogers got strip sacked. I think

836
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Speaker 10: it would have been a touchdown to Metcalf and a

837
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Speaker 10: drop and one with the the one that that I

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00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 10: think he slightly underthrew last got his hands on him

839
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Speaker 10: in Austin almost caught the deflection.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 6: Also at Austin, they thought that Steelers wanted DPI, but

842
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 6: Austin had to step on them.

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Speaker 10: He did again Metcalf dropped one.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if to say it is ready for area.

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Speaker 10: Dude, I don't know if you do not agree with

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Speaker 10: my assessment.

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Speaker 4: I think you were spitting facts.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I know Haven's got some take development going.

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Speaker 10: I just you know, it's funny because I said, you know,

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Speaker 10: Mike and I we have to tape the Patriots Unfiltered

851
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 10: TV show, and we always have the C block, I think,

852
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 10: or the B block.

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00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 8: I don't know one of them TV.

854
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 10: I just talked one of the one of the blocks

855
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 10: schedules we always do on the opponent, and I always

856
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 10: like sort of thoroughly read don script and I look

857
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 10: at the stats and g why to do any of

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00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 10: that last night because I just watched sixty minutes of

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00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 10: the Texans play and I felt like, I, you know again,

860
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 10: I'm going to guess that that's pretty typical of the

861
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 10: way the Texans have played defense based on their numbers,

862
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 10: Like it wasn't like there's the ordinary, you know performance.

863
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 10: I'm going to guess that that was what they've been

864
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 10: doing for most for the most part this year. I

865
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 10: watched a little of them, you know here in their highlights.

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Speaker 10: I think you can get over the top of them.

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Speaker 10: I think their two corners are outstanding, but they're really

868
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 10: aggressive and they want to come up and hit you.

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00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 10: They want to tackle, and I think you can get

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00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 10: behind them if you can get a little bit of

871
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 10: time to do it. And I think may can buy

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00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 10: that time.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to empty the clip

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00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 4: just yet, because it's all just.

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Speaker 10: You all.

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00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 4: You just did it just by watching, which is impressive.

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Speaker 10: That's kind of what you know.

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00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 6: So there is a handful of things about this Texans

879
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 6: defense that is phenomenal. It's a really good defense. I'm

880
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 6: not trying to come here and say.

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00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 10: I'm not either. I'm not tellingrated because I don't think

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00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 10: I didn't see anything that was over rated last night.

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Speaker 6: There's a couple of things though, just underneath the hood

884
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 6: about their defense that I think Drake may can exploit.

885
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

886
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 6: They're fourteenth in the league and explosive pass plays allowed not,

887
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 6: which is middle.

888
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 4: Of the pack.

889
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 6: So for a number one defense in the league, you

890
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 6: don't expect to see them in the middle of the pack.

891
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 6: So they do give up some big plays over the

892
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 6: top in the passing game. They are number two in

893
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 6: the or thirty first, let's go that way. They're thirty

894
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 6: first in the league against scrambles. Does anybody have any

895
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 6: guess who's thirty two.

896
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 10: Chrodgers?

897
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: No?

898
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 10: Oh, I just thought because they just the Broncos down.

899
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 6: The San Francisco forty nine ers who run the same

900
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 6: system that the Texans do.

901
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 10: In depth ball, right, we're connecting tots depth.

902
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 6: This is seems to me because they only rush four guys,

903
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 6: they don't blitz, they only bring.

904
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 8: Four nickel rush four.

905
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when there's only four guys in the rush

906
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 6: and you play a lot of zone, especially soft zone,

907
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 6: there's gonna be space underneath for the quarterback to run.

908
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 6: So they give up a lot of scramble yards. They

909
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 6: give up a lot of you know, decent amount of

910
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 6: big plays in terms of.

911
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: What about it When I when you said they're thirty

912
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: first against the scrap, I thought you meant scramble and

913
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: then big play.

914
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 5: But you talking about actual rushing rushing yards.

915
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: Okay, not not not design quarterback off of scrambles.

916
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 6: No, not like not like scrambled drills or extended plays.

917
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 6: I'm talking about actual rushing yards by the quarterback. So

918
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 6: scrambled not good, deep passes middle of the pack, but

919
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 6: for a defense that good, not particularly great. The other

920
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 6: thing that I look at with them, too is can

921
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 6: the Patriots get them to play some more bass by

922
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 6: going six to zero line, and that of course would

923
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 6: then give you an extra guy on the line of

924
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 6: scrimmage to help you pass protect as well, and which.

925
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 10: They did a little bit in the second half where

926
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 10: you said that they sort of got going. They was

927
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 10: more Munford in the second half. That certainly in the

928
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 10: first I don't even remember.

929
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 5: I hate when you have to do that, but I

930
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 5: know you have to sometimes.

931
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that that some teams have found some success

932
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 6: doing that against them going big, getting them to go

933
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 6: big against it, and then passing out of the jumbo set.

934
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 10: So yeah, it's not. And then I think you're talking

935
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 10: about like you hate when you have to do that,

936
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 10: like you're max protecting. It's not necessarily because you're worried

937
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 10: as much about the rush. You're trying to get the

938
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 10: defense to be in the personnel groups that you want

939
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 10: them to be in. Right, You're trying to adjust their

940
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 10: personnel groups. And I think that works because I think

941
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 10: Evan's right. I think a couple of the big again,

942
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 10: I'm just trying to remain I think the forty two

943
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 10: yard or the booty down the sideline was one of

944
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 10: those plays. And I think a touchdown yep, both of

945
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 10: them are one of those plays.

946
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

947
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 6: So so it's not just like we're going to power

948
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 6: up and run the balls of dust because we're trying

949
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 6: to keep them at bay.

950
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 10: No, they're they're trying to throw some haymakers.

951
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 6: One of the more underrated players in their defense is

952
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 6: Jalen Petrie, who is really really good and he plays

953
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 6: the nickel, so when you get them into base he

954
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 6: plays more of like a traditional safety, and so then

955
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 6: they can get linebackers in safeties that aren't exactly the

956
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 6: better cover guys into coverage situations. So just some of

957
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 6: the things that you look at with this Texans defense,

958
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 6: just last one. They are very stagnant defense. They just

959
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 6: do what they do. They line up and play. They

960
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 6: don't disguise, they don't disguise pressure, they don't disguise in

961
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 6: the back end. This is one of the simplest defenses

962
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 6: that they'll face all year. They're just really really good

963
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 6: at it, and they have great players. But when you

964
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 6: go up against a great play caller like Josh McDaniels,

965
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 6: if you're just gonna sit in the same coverages all

966
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 6: game long, I like your chances, Like I like your

967
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 6: chances of him finding ways to scheme guys open. So

968
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 6: I do think there are some things that are a

969
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 6: little bit weaknesses for the Texans that the Patriots can exploit.

970
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just gonna say watching some of the Seattle game,

971
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 7: I mean, they don't have JSM, but JSN had success

972
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 7: downfield against them.

973
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 8: I mean, I know.

974
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 7: He's the best receiver in the league, so not apples apples,

975
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 7: But that was something I noticed too, that if you

976
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 7: can get it up there, that they can be had.

977
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 10: That was also very early in the year, when they

978
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 10: weren't the Texans yet. I mean they were one in five.

979
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 10: I think they were Owen three to one and five.

980
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a good game.

981
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 10: We're around here. We throw away the Raiders and Steelers games,

982
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 10: right right, So I'm sure that the you know, Matt

983
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 10: Burke and the Texans defense throws away you know, a

984
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 10: lot of September too. They didn't get off to a

985
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 10: great start.

986
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you.

987
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 7: Talk about a team though, that's that's played in a

988
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 7: lot of tough environments. I mean they played a number

989
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 7: of playoffs teams this year. They played in Seattle, they

990
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 7: obviously played in Campas.

991
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 10: Numbers on that later. Yeah, No, you're right everything you

992
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 10: just said. I think they've played eight games against teams

993
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 10: with more than ten wins.

994
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, Buffalo Chargers twice, Denver twice.

995
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 10: Here somewhere Seattle, Max.

996
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 5: And Santa Barbara writes in First Off, Unlike Paul I too,

997
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 5: like Fred root for the other team's injuries.

998
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 10: I don't root for any injury.

999
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 5: I love when mahomes leg got twisted.

1000
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: Remember the Chiefs purposely took out Brady in September two

1001
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: thousand and seven. Plus they lied that Super Bowl when

1002
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: they claimed Mahomes had a high ankle sprain.

1003
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 5: Yet he ran around no problem.

1004
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: What ped did they allow him to be shot up

1005
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: with Gronk had that played very few snaps in Super

1006
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: Bowl forty six. Anyway, I don't know why, but this

1007
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: win for me was as sweet as thirty six or

1008
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: fifty one. Paul, drink real sugar PEPSI. The artificial sweetener

1009
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: is way worse for you.

1010
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 10: That's a myth, much like the rest of your email.

1011
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: Nice Let's see what do we got here? Oh, let's

1012
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: go to Alex in San Diego. What's up, Alex?

1013
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, what a game?

1014
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 19: You know, I'm twenty eight years old and I grew

1015
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 19: up with the team that was just always good, and

1016
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 19: you know, just being bad these last couple of years.

1017
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 19: It made me really thankful for moments like Sunday. But yeah, anyway,

1018
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 19: I don't know if anything else came out from this,

1019
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 19: whether it was reports or interviews, but your thoughts on

1020
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 19: why Vrabel went for the extra point after the Loan

1021
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 19: touchdown the other day because the lead was twelve, and

1022
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 19: I just see way more of a benefit making the

1023
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 19: lead fourteen and thirteen. But either way, the game was

1024
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 19: probably over when they scored that touchdown anyway.

1025
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 3: But so anyway, Yeah, he was asked the question and

1026
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: he kind of didn't answer it.

1027
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 10: So yeah, go ahad Pabably. I think their translation was

1028
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 10: I messed that one up. I think I think the

1029
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 10: way he started to talk about it sort of was

1030
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 10: an indication to me that, yeah, I know what you're

1031
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 10: talking about, and maybe we should have done it. Fred

1032
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 10: was talking about this in the post game show, and

1033
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 10: he eventually got to try to do some of the

1034
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 10: stuff that you're talking about. He's counting possessions, right, and

1035
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 10: he's sort of going, well, if it's twelve. He was

1036
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 10: talking about the possibility of three possessions. So if you

1037
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 10: make it twelve, if you don't get the two and

1038
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 10: then they score a touchdown, they make it five. Now

1039
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 10: if we kick a field goal, we're only up eight

1040
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 10: and it's still one score and not nine, which is

1041
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 10: kind of I think what you were getting at. I

1042
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 10: just didn't think there was enough possessions left in the

1043
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 10: game to realistically, with nine minutes left, the Chargers are

1044
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 10: going to get down the field and score a touchdown.

1045
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 10: You're going to now go down the field and kick

1046
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 10: a field goal, and there's going to be enough time. Like, Yeah,

1047
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 10: I didn't know. I think they would have gone for

1048
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 10: two if they had to do that over again. I

1049
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 10: don't think it was an enormous problem because of the

1050
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 10: way the defense was playing at the time. But yeah,

1051
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 10: I think the way he answered it told me that, Yeah,

1052
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 10: I think we might have messed that one.

1053
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 6: My tinfoil hot theory. They have a really good two

1054
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 6: point play and they didn't want to burn it because well.

1055
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 10: They don't have to burn it, use another one, us

1056
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 10: another one.

1057
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 6: They only have so many. I don't think that they

1058
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 6: were scoring fourteen points and I would completely agree with that.

1059
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 10: And the point that I made was like, we know

1060
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 10: the game is over, yeah, you know, because of their

1061
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 10: media nerds sitting around watching the game. You know, we

1062
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 10: we've watched forty fifty, you know, fifty minutes of play

1063
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 10: and they have three points. They're not scoring fourteen in

1064
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 10: the last ten, right, But the coach can't do that.

1065
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 10: Coach can't just say well, you know, and he was

1066
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 10: talking about sudden change, you know, like that was the

1067
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 10: only way that they could lose, which is why I

1068
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 10: was annoyed with the strip sack that May took with

1069
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 10: a sixteen to three lead, Like that's basically the only

1070
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 10: way you can lose. And that ball bounced up. Not

1071
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 10: only he got strip sacked, that was on a platter

1072
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 10: for someone and Jared Wilson fortunately was the one who

1073
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 10: caught the bounce. Yeah, if that's if that's a charger,

1074
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 10: who can that bounce? That might be a touchdown and

1075
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 10: that's the only way you can get in trouble.

1076
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, they dropped the end out to Diggs's side. He

1077
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 6: wasn't expecting the end to drop out and he dropped.

1078
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 6: He wanted to throw the slant to Digs and the

1079
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 6: end just dropped right underneath the slant and so he

1080
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 6: just pulled it down and you know, to Paul's point,

1081
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 6: like just turtle, like just go down, you know, like

1082
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 6: especially with that lead, and.

1083
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: Just throw it in the ground.

1084
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was he got.

1085
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 10: The grounding would have been better, he got.

1086
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: He got fooled by it.

1087
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 7: That was funny when some of those guys were dropping

1088
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 7: out that they were like like doing this, like I mean,

1089
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 7: I don't know, maybe I just never noticed it before,

1090
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 7: but I was like, are you trying to tell him

1091
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 7: you're there?

1092
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 8: Or you wanted to throw it to you? You know,

1093
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 8: like I'm over, I'm open.

1094
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 4: I mean, they were dropping tard out.

1095
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 6: He's three hundred and forty pounds and they're dropping him

1096
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 6: out over the middle of the field to take away

1097
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 6: the the inside.

1098
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: I mean, the they had some good stuff the Chargers.

1099
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 5: Joseph's in North Carolina. I hate Joseph.

1100
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 9: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one. I'm very glad to be back in this position.

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Speaker 9: The Pats are back. I just have a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: I think we actually really match up well against the Texans.

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Speaker 2: The Texans kind of remind me or the Patriots remind

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Speaker 2: me of the Texans from like two years ago. Texans

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Speaker 2: always have had a good defense. It's really just been CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 2: how he's gonna do. He's younger. I think we line

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Speaker 2: up good, and you guys mentioned it. The X factor,

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Speaker 2: I really think will be Josh McDaniels, how he what

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Speaker 2: place he calls. I think that Steelers game. It was

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Speaker 2: just very bland. If the Steelers were gonna run, they

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Speaker 2: were gonna run, They're gonna pass, they were gonna pass.

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Speaker 2: I feel like everyone could predict what they were going

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Speaker 2: to do. So my question is this, is it gonna

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Speaker 2: be Mike mcdan or Josh McDaniels or I think Hunter

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Speaker 2: Henry has a real big play in this game. Very

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Speaker 2: underrated past block get away from it. And I think

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Speaker 2: Drake May's athletics athleticism is going.

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Speaker 9: To help us win this game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, doesn't it every week?

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Speaker 7: I mean, everything Paul and Evan were saying just to

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Speaker 7: me is if it's not there, go you know, this

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Speaker 7: is one game where you don't dig around trying to

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Speaker 7: get to the third and fourth reads like they might

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Speaker 7: be susceptible to the scrambles, and don't be a hero

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Speaker 7: and you know, go down, don't try to point.

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Speaker 10: He's going to need to play really well.

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Speaker 8: It's not going to right one hundred percent, but it's

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Speaker 8: not going to be.

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Speaker 7: You know, one of these games where it's, oh, you're

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Speaker 7: gonna have a chance to make some points up, Like

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Speaker 7: I think points are going to be at a premium.

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Speaker 7: Live to Fight another day, but I mean, I just again,

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Speaker 7: I felt great last week coming in with Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 7: I feel great again, he's seen it all. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I don't know how you feel about it. I just

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Speaker 7: I kind of made the comparison to the old Indie defense,

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Speaker 7: which not different schemes, but it was still really fast,

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Speaker 7: do what we're going to do. But they're they're going

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Speaker 7: to do it, you know, like you know what they're

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Speaker 7: going to do. So I love Josh's experience and ability

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Speaker 7: to look at that defense and say, Drake.

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Speaker 3: May, is there anywhere on the Patriots offense where they

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Speaker 3: have the matchup advantage over the Texans deef.

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Speaker 8: My little remander, I would say in the passing game.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, that's been something I've heard a couple

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Speaker 7: of times in the analysis of especially.

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Speaker 10: With to coverage all over.

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Speaker 4: Well last night, well he was one of those Steelers

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Speaker 4: best players.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but I mean that's what going into the game,

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Speaker 7: some of the preduchers saying they should try.

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Speaker 6: To get get them on that one third down but

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Speaker 6: it fell. Yeah, but yeah, I would agree and know,

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Speaker 6: especially if they play all that quarters coverage with the

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Speaker 6: two high safeties, so the matchup is you know, usually

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Speaker 6: a linebacker on a running back or the slot receiver

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Speaker 6: right over the middle of the field. Uh And that

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Speaker 6: is one area. And that's why I was talking about

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Speaker 6: trying to get them into base because if you can

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Speaker 6: get Petrie out of the slot and you can get

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Speaker 6: them with you know, linebackers on the field, I think

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Speaker 6: that that's how you can throw on them a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Uh So I would expect the Patriots to try to

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Speaker 6: whether it's twelve or it's you know, six O line

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Speaker 6: or whatever the case may be, just try to get

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Speaker 6: them to blink and put the big guys out on

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Speaker 6: the field. But I I like their chances as much

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Speaker 6: as you possibly could against maybe the best defense in

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Speaker 6: the league, because I think that they really are kind

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Speaker 6: of stagnant, do what you do defense, And I just

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Speaker 6: really like Josh McDaniels in that kind of matchup.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be the advantage of McDaniels. Then, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's the answer to the question.

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Speaker 6: Well, because I think McDaniel's just gonna call a lot

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Speaker 6: of beaters for the types of coverages that the Texans

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Speaker 6: really like to run. And I like their odds of

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Speaker 6: getting some guys open. You know, especially if Texans play zone.

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Speaker 6: You know, if they come in and play Mann, I'm

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Speaker 6: a little bit more concerned.

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Speaker 7: I think that I'm just gonna say, last point, the

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Speaker 7: bigger thing, and we've all been touching on, is the

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Speaker 7: secondary guy's got to step up after digs and you're

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Speaker 7: gonna need more.

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Speaker 8: Production, especially in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 7: To your point, Fred, you know de Mario Douglas, can

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Speaker 7: we get him involved a little bit more? I just

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Speaker 7: I think it was obviously they missed mac Collins in

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Speaker 7: this game. I think he was one of the underrated

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Speaker 7: kind of guys that Drake likes to throw to, especially.

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Speaker 6: Against zone, you know, and you kind of just sit

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Speaker 6: in those soft spots and big target in the middle

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Speaker 6: of the field.

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Speaker 5: Cassie and Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Everyone likes to talk about the Patriots strength of schedules,

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about the Texans, but specifically the offenses

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Speaker 3: they have faced. The losses they have have were against

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Speaker 3: good offenses, but the second half of the schedule when

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Speaker 3: they made their run, have been against some teams with

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Speaker 3: subpar offenses.

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Speaker 10: Okay, so just wondering who do you think is the

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Speaker 10: good offenses. I don't got to think the Rams are

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Speaker 10: any good. I think the Rams have a good.

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Speaker 8: Offense, pretty good Rams Seahawks.

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Speaker 10: They lost, He's right, fourteen points.

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Speaker 7: Yeah right, you don't get the twenty on this team.

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Speaker 7: They given up over twenty points twice.

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Speaker 10: You know, Jacksonville pretty good offense this year, right, seventeen

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Speaker 10: they lost. He's right, they lost to the good offenses.

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Speaker 10: But that's the kind of game that I think the

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Speaker 10: Patriots are gonna win. And I just you know, I

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Speaker 10: know Fretz already declared this game is over. We're onto

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Speaker 10: the AFC Championship.

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Speaker 5: I'm with them.

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Speaker 10: I think the Patriots are gonna win this game. But

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Speaker 10: I don't think it's going to be like the last

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Speaker 10: time I did this, I was very wrong and I said,

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Speaker 10: I don't think. I don't see a six to three

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Speaker 10: game at the half, And here we were in a

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Speaker 10: six to three game at the half. I don't see

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Speaker 10: the Patriots putting forty eight on the board. I just like,

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Speaker 10: I think this defense is good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's very good.

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Speaker 10: I think that if defenses are beatable, all defenses are beatable,

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Speaker 10: you should be able to get into the twenties. I

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Speaker 10: know they're really good, but you've got to get to

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Speaker 10: the twenties.

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Speaker 4: If you can get to twenty.

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Speaker 6: Stroud has not played well and so the one thing

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Speaker 6: was Stroud too. I know we have, you know, a

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Speaker 6: lot more time to talk about this, but I expect

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Speaker 6: the Patriots to blitz the crap out of them because

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Speaker 6: you know, that seems.

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Speaker 8: To make a great decision.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that seems to be is kryptonite right now, is pressure.

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Speaker 6: And you know the Chargers got them the entire second

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Speaker 6: half of that game with a lot of pressure. So

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Speaker 6: just like they did against Justin Herbert, you know on

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Speaker 6: Sunday night, I expect this very similar game plan.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, but we did a lot of work on Milt

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Speaker 13: Potorships again, probably did some work on him coming out,

1316
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 13: you know, went through a process there in the off season,

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00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 13: and you know cases, you know, one of those players

1318
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 13: that have been a couple of different places, and I

1319
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 13: was trying to make the best decision for him and

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 13: his family and his career, which I can appreciate. So yeah,

1321
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 13: went back and forth and there was talks and conversations,

1322
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 13: and I was glad that he was uh willing to

1323
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 13: join us, and you know, glad he's had success and

1324
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 13: he has done it, done a great job, and you

1325
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 13: know we'll need all those efforts moving forward. But you

1326
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 13: know he's into it. He's he's here a lot and

1327
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 13: fought through the bumps and the bruises of an NFL season.

1328
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 13: And yeah, so again all the credit goes to him.

1329
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 13: But I think that that that wasn't something that was

1330
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 13: just cemented on one day. I mean think there was

1331
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 13: some conversations, you know, as we worked through free agency

1332
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 13: and what his plans were and what the vision that

1333
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 13: we had for a lot to talk.

1334
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 10: To student about strength of schedule.

1335
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 4: What is it when last night just leaning the team

1336
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 4: means the season.

1337
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 13: Leans, we get to keep playing. So if that's what

1338
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 13: that means, it means we're not on vacation.

1339
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 12: Mikeut Fort is timing h maybe even just reps, getting

1340
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 12: reps together for those guys up front. For you defensively,

1341
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 12: think you're running those those three main games of picking

1342
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 12: the stripsack yesterday. Do those guys eat a lot of

1343
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 12: reps together those things to work well?

1344
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 13: I just think that there's a lot of you know,

1345
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 13: the more that you can work with the guy next

1346
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 13: to you, I think the better. Sometimes it's you're getting

1347
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 13: a different look based on their protection or do they

1348
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 13: jump you, do they soft seid? Are they sliding? Whatever

1349
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 13: it may be. So the more that you know you

1350
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 13: can get a look at those things and be able

1351
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 13: to work with the guy next to you, how the

1352
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 13: guys setting it up, how your guys blocking you, and

1353
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 13: your ability to get where you need to get to. So,

1354
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 13: the more reps that we can get at any type

1355
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 13: of you know, combination with more than one player is important,

1356
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 13: whether that's a route concept with two guys, or pass

1357
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 13: rush games or offensive line or blocking. I think any

1358
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 13: time that you're dealing with with two players that have

1359
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 13: a responsibility or more players, the more.

1360
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 10: Reps the better.

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 13: You had a few guys last night came back after

1362
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 13: a kind of extended previorly a lefloppers.

1363
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 10: How do you look particular?

1364
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 13: How yeah?

1365
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 10: I mean I thought he yelled up.

1366
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 13: Okay, I think that they you know, there's gonna be

1367
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 13: some plays that he's going to want to improve on

1368
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 13: and game conditioning and all those things and emotion and

1369
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 13: but we got we got great efforts from everybody, and

1370
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Speaker 13: you know, Robert and Harold who hadn't been out there,

1371
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 13: you know, helped us win.

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Speaker 8: They're all part of his victory. While of your.

1373
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 23: Downfield success in the passing game came from some heavier groupings.

1374
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 23: What were the charters doing that maybe made it tougher

1375
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 23: to get downfield from their lighter personnel And what were

1376
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 23: the advantages that you saw in some of those base effages.

1377
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 13: Well, they rush and you know, they've got a good front,

1378
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 13: and further, you want to throw the ball downfield the

1379
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 13: longer that you have to protect. And you know, I

1380
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 13: think they play certainly a very good pass defense and

1381
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 13: different shells and whether they're man or posts, say, and

1382
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 13: they're you know, pushing somebody back out there, you know.

1383
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 13: And again I think that being able to mix up

1384
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 13: the personnel groups is something that you know, we've tried

1385
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 13: to do that, other teams try to do no different

1386
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 13: than the Chargers and early on going in twenty two

1387
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 13: personnel and trying to get a play action passed out

1388
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 13: of there and trying to get you know, some route

1389
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 13: to gats In or something, and so, you know, being

1390
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 13: able to mix personnel and staying balanced out of each

1391
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 13: personnel I think is critical.

1392
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Speaker 14: Mike talking about the growth of Andy borg allis from

1393
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 14: what he dealt with in training camp and adversity a

1394
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 14: little bit during the year and what sort of automatic

1395
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 14: a lot of times you know, you know, we're not

1396
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 14: talking about a kicker.

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Speaker 10: A lot of times he's doing his job. Can you

1398
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 10: just talk about it?

1399
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that first of all, his demeanor I

1400
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 13: think has been been great. It's been consistent. Just keep

1401
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 13: kicking and keep learning and practice it and you know,

1402
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 13: kicking in the elements and kicking on you know, different side.

1403
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 13: It doesn't really seem the things affect them, you know.

1404
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 13: So again all the credit to Andy, uh for remaining

1405
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 13: consistent mentally and made some big kicks for us. So

1406
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 13: you know, I'm sure that that's helped his confidence. Thought

1407
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 13: two point conversion after yeah, yeah, obviously some thoughts there,

1408
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 13: and then you know, just thinking that maybe we'd get

1409
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 13: a couple more possessions where you know, the field goal

1410
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 13: could probably get us to eight, but you know, could

1411
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 13: could easily have have done that, and.

1412
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 10: Proud of our guys.

1413
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 13: Really the sudden change all night and situational football was

1414
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 13: really good. Coach you was here for a lot of

1415
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 13: big games as uh, his first playoff game in six

1416
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 13: years here last night, which the scare. I thought it

1417
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 13: was amazing. I think it starts with our willingness to

1418
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 13: play to a style. Then our fans appreciate. We've talked

1419
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 13: about that since, uh since as long as I can

1420
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 13: remember that if we play to a certain style, and

1421
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 13: they'll embrace that and they'll they'll they'll cheer for us.

1422
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 8: I think that.

1423
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 13: You know what we do here from the stadium perspective

1424
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 13: and the introductions and the fireworks, and I mean, that's

1425
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 13: all part of it.

1426
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 10: And we're at the.

1427
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 13: Entertainment business and we have to provide things for people

1428
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 13: to get excited about. So I appreciate the way that

1429
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 13: our fans have been here, and I appreciate the way

1430
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 13: that they've traveled, and I can't say nothing about them.

1431
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

1432
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 5: History.

1433
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 6: It is funny like those are the types make a play,

1434
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 6: Terry Glenn, what are we doing?

1435
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 10: I can play on the ball.

1436
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 5: Nobody knows what you're talking about.

1437
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 10: Just through showing Aaron Glenn Highways on NFL Network.

1438
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 4: Do you know Aaron Glenn was the coach of the Jets.

1439
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 4: I didn't know that.

1440
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 8: I didn't know it's true or not, but it is.

1441
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 10: Seven hates everybody and everything in the.

1442
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 8: League, especially the seventy Steelers.

1443
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 10: Oh no, anybody and everything.

1444
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 4: The way to get me started on the seventy Steiers.

1445
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 6: I heard the ball boy got into the Pro Football

1446
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame on the seventies Steelers.

1447
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 8: That's true.

1448
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 4: You know, us we're trying to you know, the Patriots dynasty.

1449
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 4: It's like trying to pull teeth.

1450
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 6: But you know I heard the third string long snapper

1451
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 6: and the seventy Steelers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1452
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 8: And the waterboy on the Steelers had like a six

1453
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 8: gallon jug. He was just walking down with one armhold.

1454
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got a bust and can You're right there

1455
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 5: was too much, uh, too many Steelers got in at

1456
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 5: that time. I don't know, why would you.

1457
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 10: Care to elaborate? No, I just think there was which one.

1458
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 5: A lot of all of them, A lot of them.

1459
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 10: That's what I was getting at. Its all of them.

1460
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

1461
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 5: All right back here on Patriot's Unfiltered Day five to

1462
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 5: five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots

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01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 5: di Com. Is the email address Clayton.

1464
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was good. It was good. I still hate this,

1465
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 10: but that was good, solid hate. I like that.

1466
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 4: If they don't had Vinetarian the Hall of Fame this year,

1467
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: I'm like.

1468
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 10: Royd Jirella is in though.

1469
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 3: It was kicker with the Texas playing on Monday, and

1470
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: I would assume traveling Friday, Well that's a bad assumption.

1471
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 5: Yes to New England.

1472
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 3: What sort of impact does that have on the team

1473
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 3: preparing for playoff game? Patriots seem to have six days

1474
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 3: to prepare to the Texans three.

1475
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 5: And a half or four.

1476
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 3: I think the Texans will come on Saturday. Why would

1477
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: you come on Friday?

1478
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 10: They have won less day to prepare because they played

1479
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 10: Monday night.

1480
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, it happens.

1481
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 10: I mean I don't think it should happen the NFL

1482
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 10: and the playoffs. Should they also not have Monday night games.

1483
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 6: I'm assuming that their coaching staff might have already been

1484
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 6: peeking yesterday before the game.

1485
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 5: Just like we were. Probably I was for both.

1486
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, but and even to Evan's point, like the Texans

1487
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 10: staff didn't have an either or scenario. It's like, we win,

1488
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 10: were preparing for this team. If we lose, we're not

1489
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 10: preparing for anybody else. Like that's it. If they win,

1490
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 10: they played the Patriots, so the preparation, you know, was underway.

1491
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 10: I'm sure the Patriots probably spent a little more time

1492
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 10: going over Houston A because they thought they would win

1493
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 10: B because they've already seen Pittsburgh this year and probably

1494
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 10: didn't have as much extensively to do. But they did

1495
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 10: have the either or the Texans didn't. It was all Patriots, right,

1496
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 10: what else you're doing. We're either going to be on

1497
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 10: CANCN or we're going to be playing the Patriots.

1498
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 4: Until eight o'clock Monday night and you're just sitting around.

1499
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 5: But it is unfair to have a team play on

1500
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 5: Monday night in the playoffs.

1501
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 7: It's just never going back though, is it like they're

1502
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 7: never going to start.

1503
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 10: Making it's too like just just go back to the

1504
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 10: triple header on Saturday, triple header on Sunday, and then

1505
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 10: try your best for the winners to play in the

1506
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 10: same day the following week. So it's even for everybody

1507
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 10: this team's play that played Sunday, that are playing Saturday

1508
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 10: teams played Monday playing Sunday. Shouldn't be like that in

1509
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 10: the playoffs. Everybody should have the same amount of rest,

1510
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 10: except for the teams that get to buy obviously, Camp

1511
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 10: Tim and Pensacola.

1512
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 5: What's up, Tim?

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Speaker 9: Hey, everybody, I know you got a lot of callers.

1514
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 9: So I just have two quick points. One is a

1515
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 9: off season idea because I don't get to call a

1516
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 9: lot because of work. And then the second is a

1517
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 9: serious question about Drake may So first, I've been listening

1518
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 9: to this show since I was in high school, all

1519
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 9: the way up to my last job in the previous

1520
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 9: administration working in the White House, to my current job.

1521
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 9: PFW Patriots Unfiltered has always been a constant. So Fred

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01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 9: the off season, Yeah, I was an associate director under

1523
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 9: President Pike. But during the off season, I encourage you

1524
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 9: all for one episode, just one episode, to bring back

1525
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 9: TFW in Progress, the old music, Fred Kirsch, Andy Hart,

1526
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 9: Paul Perillo, Er Scalabino, Kevin behind the Glass doesn't have

1527
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 9: Marine Corps efficiency, which just made it funnier, And just

1528
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 9: have one episode of PFW.

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Speaker 5: In Progress, so like a reunion show exactly.

1530
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I like that idea with the music I think

1531
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 10: I wonder if we can find that.

1532
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, mister life, Oh you know what, I might have

1533
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 9: some old podcast somewhere I can see if I have

1534
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 9: him off them your way. I'm serious, Okay, my question

1535
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 9: about Drake May. One thing Paul that I appreciate about

1536
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 9: you is like you said stuff even when it was unpopular.

1537
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 9: So you will probably roll your eyes at me, and

1538
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 9: that's okay. But I want to get everybody's take on this.

1539
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 9: I think Drake May is an elite quarterback right now.

1540
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 9: I think his ball placement, his accuracy, his speed, his

1541
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 9: ability to break tackles to make place, I think he's

1542
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,879
Speaker 9: just gonna get better. But I say he is already

1543
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 9: an elite quarterback. I can take it off there, but

1544
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 9: I'd like your thoughts on it.

1545
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 3: I think, well, he's got elite skills, there's no there's

1546
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 3: no about it. But in order to be an elite

1547
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 3: quarterback in the NFL, it takes time.

1548
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 5: You have to prove it over time.

1549
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 10: Well, I think in twenty MVP of the league in

1550
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 10: twenty five, he's been an elite quarterback.

1551
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't.

1552
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,440
Speaker 10: I really think there's an argument against.

1553
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 4: That he's an elite quarterback.

1554
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, there's I can't imagine, like, how does

1555
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 6: he regret.

1556
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 5: I'm not ready to put him up with the elites

1557
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 5: of the game, you know, in history.

1558
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 10: I would put him in history, you know, But this

1559
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 10: year he's in my top five.

1560
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, no doubt about it.

1561
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 6: I think he's squarely at the top of Tier two

1562
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 6: at least, like I still think that, you know, Mahomes,

1563
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 6: Burrow Allen, and Lamar Jackson are probably in.

1564
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 10: That likes tier club.

1565
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 5: I know, you got to be fair. It's one season, yeah, so.

1566
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 10: That's all I'm judging it on, right But right.

1567
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 3: Now he's elite in this league with elite skills. But

1568
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 3: in terms of but.

1569
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 4: I think he showed it all his rookie year.

1570
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 6: I think his rookie year there are a lot of

1571
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 6: the same throws are on film that he's making now.

1572
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 6: He just was in a crappy situation and he was young.

1573
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 4: Sure, you know, so I.

1574
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 6: Don't think that this like truly came out of nowhere.

1575
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 6: I think this was all over his rookie tape too.

1576
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 6: He just has better coaching and better pieces around him

1577
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 6: and has a little bit more experience in the league.

1578
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 6: I just have a tough time thanks to him trying

1579
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 6: to figure out where he goes backwards, that he would

1580
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 6: not stay at this level, you know, for the next

1581
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 6: ten years.

1582
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 7: And I just put it on the coaching staff this

1583
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 7: year in the personnel department to continue to build around

1584
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 7: him and to give him things that fit his game

1585
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 7: or as you get out of this season, you know.

1586
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 8: We really would have liked this piece Xyz.

1587
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 7: I mean I look at the second tight end spot

1588
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 7: as maybe a spot where you say, let's try to

1589
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 7: find a young athletic guy who can maybe be t

1590
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 7: E two next year, but maybe push Hunter Henry a

1591
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 7: little bit, start to add another dynamic element to the

1592
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 7: offense for Drake to play with.

1593
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 4: You and I wouldn't really have a dominant outside receiver yet.

1594
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only way he could go backwards is if

1595
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,799
Speaker 3: he starts making mental mistakes.

1596
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 10: But I don't see that happen, and that would be

1597
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 10: the very slight pushback to what I have said, like,

1598
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 10: we saw a lot of this stuff last year, right,

1599
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 10: and it hasn't been that So Yeah, I agree that

1600
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 10: the highs we saw, but we haven't seen anywhere near

1601
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 10: the lows that we saw last year. That's to me,

1602
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 10: which has put him in an elite level. We knew

1603
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 10: that the skills were there, but last year we saw

1604
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 10: all the mistakes. A lot of the summer, we saw

1605
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 10: a lot of these mistakes. They've almost completely disappeared. That's

1606
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 10: why I'm as critical as I am when he gets

1607
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 10: stripsacked in the middle of the fourth quarter up thirteen points,

1608
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 10: because we haven't seen that all year. I know you

1609
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 10: can do this, because you haven't done it all year.

1610
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 10: Don't do it now, don't you know? Like the May

1611
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 10: sprays that Mike talks about the pocket presence that I

1612
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 10: kind of harp on. I don't want to see the

1613
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 10: playoffs end because of that. If they're going to end,

1614
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 10: let the other team shut you down.

1615
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 4: He has irrational confidence.

1616
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 10: Irrational it is a great way to put it.

1617
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 4: In me and I like, you don't want to take

1618
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 4: that completely away.

1619
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 13: Nope.

1620
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 6: But he has a rational confidence that he can make

1621
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 6: a play in any situation. And sometimes the right play

1622
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 6: is just to protect the ball and go down. And

1623
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 6: for him it's like, Nope, I'm gonna hang on to

1624
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 6: the last possible second because I'm Drake May and I'm

1625
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 6: gonna make a play.

1626
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 10: Here the best kid in the school yard and he

1627
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 10: feels he can do anything, and I don't want to

1628
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 10: take that away, and I would just say just to

1629
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 10: put a bow on it. With those two fumbles on

1630
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 10: Sunday Sunday night, the first one, I think both of

1631
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 10: them were he was guilty of exactly what Evan's talking about,

1632
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 10: the irrational confidence. I can make a play here. The

1633
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 10: first one I can live with, even though it was

1634
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 10: in scoring position and they were only up six to

1635
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 10: three at the time, and that was a big play.

1636
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 10: I'm not dismissing it, but he's trying to make a

1637
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 10: play to put points on the board. The second one,

1638
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 10: the game is kind of over sixteen to three with

1639
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 10: less than five minutes left in the game. There's only

1640
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 10: one way I can lose. So that's not a spot

1641
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 10: I want irrational confidence. That's the spot I want. Let's

1642
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 10: play this safe, let's just take the loss, and we'll

1643
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 10: punt live to fight another deck.

1644
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 8: He gets experienced too.

1645
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 7: I think that's such a big part of it with

1646
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 7: I mean, I know Brady talking about the course of

1647
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 7: his career of going just take the sack. You never

1648
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 7: I think I've heard cliffs of Josh saying to him

1649
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 7: like we've never lost a game because we took a sack.

1650
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 8: You know, those are the kind of This.

1651
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 6: Is one of those games against the Texans where a

1652
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 6: punt is.

1653
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 4: Much better than another possible outcome.

1654
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 6: You know, Like because if you put this offense is

1655
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 6: Texans offense on long fields, I feel pretty good about

1656
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 6: your chances. You know, they get points by being on

1657
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 6: short fields or the defense scoring or whatever the case

1658
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 6: may be. So but yeah, I mean, like he's got

1659
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,719
Speaker 6: a it's a hard line to walk, Like Josh Allen

1660
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 6: has the same problem. Like they think they're they're superman,

1661
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 6: and like sometimes he makes throws and he makes plays

1662
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 6: that you just go crazy about. But then sometimes he

1663
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 6: gets caught trying to make plays like that. Any fumbles,

1664
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 6: you know, and if you want the good ones that yeah.

1665
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 3: Bradley in Kansas City, Zach Core was commented on by

1666
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 3: Peter Schrager as part of the Monday and I Countdown

1667
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 3: And Peter acted like he was a fill in for

1668
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 3: only this game as the play caller. Can someone tell

1669
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 3: him he's been our defensive coordinator all season? Dude needs

1670
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 3: to do some research before talking on national TV.

1671
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 7: I kind of thought it was a Rolowski too. I

1672
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 7: heard that clip and Sreger brought him up and then

1673
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 7: and then and then don't ask you know who?

1674
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Sregar, you haven't heard of the de facto defensive

1675
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 6: coordinator of the number two seed in the AFC filling in.

1676
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 8: For the defensive coordinator.

1677
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 6: I'm sure they can name all the other defensive coordinators

1678
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 6: right in the playoffs. I mean I probably could, so,

1679
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 6: I'm sure they could.

1680
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 10: I couldn't. I know I couldn't.

1681
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 5: Halfley. Uh, he's out, Doug writes in he's a Green Bay. Yes,

1682
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 5: defensive coordinators.

1683
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 10: Oh you mean out of the playoffs.

1684
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, it was just one he was naming.

1685
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 5: Right, Doug.

1686
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 3: Mike Rabil is definitely a heart out For some reason.

1687
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 3: This doesn't bother me. In fact, I kind of like it.

1688
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 5: Do you agree?

1689
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 3: Maybe it's because he's our hard oh, or maybe there

1690
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 3: is more to it one his playing resume supports it.

1691
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 3: He has always been this way. It's not a recent

1692
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 3: coaches affection.

1693
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

1694
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 3: He uses it to improve the team. In other words,

1695
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: not to look at me. It's not an obvious ploy

1696
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 3: to cover up other coaching deficiencies. It's great to have

1697
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: the team finally more fun to watch, uh than Patriots unfiltered.

1698
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 10: I just like him.

1699
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 8: Can I get a definition of hard?

1700
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 14: Oh?

1701
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 8: Is that like an act?

1702
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1703
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 7: It's an act because I don't get a lot of

1704
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 7: Mike Frables trying really hard to act.

1705
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 5: Well, this is who he is. He's not doing it.

1706
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 10: I think he's the epitome of that. But I love him.

1707
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 10: I think he I think he's great.

1708
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 6: Yeah saying that that he's like willing to bleed, like

1709
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 6: let's calm down. But I do think that his his playing,

1710
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 6: the fact that he's not just not just a former player,

1711
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 6: but is a former really good player.

1712
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 4: I do think that that helps.

1713
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 10: Like just watch him come into the press conference with that,

1714
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 10: with that shred of.

1715
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 5: His like that's who like, he's always had it and.

1716
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 10: That's why I love I've always liked Mike from his

1717
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:01,759
Speaker 10: playing days.

1718
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:02,919
Speaker 5: I he's really inuine.

1719
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:07,839
Speaker 7: He's not, but he's definitely a heart natural.

1720
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 5: He's our heart.

1721
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 6: But some of the guys that are hard os, like

1722
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 6: Jim Harbaugh is like, dude, you were a nice backup quarterback,

1723
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 6: Like no one's impressed.

1724
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 4: You know.

1725
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 10: Jim Harbaugh is kind of a nerd or Dan Campbell.

1726
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 10: Dan Campbell like you were a block, but he's absolutely Like.

1727
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: A lot of people think the hard thing is to

1728
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 3: cover up for other coaching deficiencies.

1729
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't.

1730
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 5: I don't either.

1731
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 10: I think that's just guy's personality.

1732
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 6: Is I think sary Back in the day, he was

1733
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 6: kind of quiet, wasn't he until that explosion?

1734
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1735
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 10: Dan Campbell is a good example that that's a heart.

1736
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 4: I think a lot of Dan Campbell in him.

1737
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, Johnsony's a little bit of a heart.

1738
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 10: Oh, yes, And I think that I think he's kind

1739
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 10: of a nerd.

1740
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 6: Now it's coming across well right now because they're winning.

1741
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 6: But I think that if it didn't like you didn't

1742
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 6: play like you did, like you're you are supposed to

1743
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 6: be the nerd, right, So, Like you can say what

1744
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 6: you want about Mike McDaniel, but at least Mike McDaniel

1745
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 6: knows who he is, right, He's a Robert Salah hard

1746
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 6: hard oh, trying to fight Liam Cohen after playing the

1747
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 6: Jaguars earlier this year, Like.

1748
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 8: Pretty hard, what do we doing?

1749
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 7: I know what you guys are saying, but I just

1750
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 7: I look at hard O as such a like derogatory.

1751
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not saying it as a derogatory thing. I

1752
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 10: just think that's a personality trait.

1753
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 6: I just think that it's different when it's coming from

1754
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 6: a guy that like truly was great as a player,

1755
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 6: Like it's in the team Hall of Fame, Like that's

1756
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 6: a different level of like being like he he can

1757
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 6: back it up. You know, he was a great player.

1758
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 6: And I think he still has that competent, same.

1759
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 8: Swag when he's walking the same way across the field

1760
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 8: as he does when he walks into the press.

1761
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 10: I think Mike tom wants a bit of a hard Oh.

1762
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 10: I think the way he kept you know, like you know,

1763
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,520
Speaker 10: the whole all the buzzwords. You know, we want volunteers,

1764
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 10: not hostages. You know, He's got like a quip for

1765
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 10: every occasion, you know.

1766
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 6: I think he's when he after they beat the Ravens

1767
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 6: and he was doing the chest pounds into the camera like.

1768
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 4: Dude, you you won on a field goal? Yeah, Like

1769
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 4: what are we talking about?

1770
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 7: Is it wrong to say that football is loaded with

1771
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 7: hard specifically for mancho sports. I think I think a

1772
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 7: hockey and I'm like that's almost like the opposite, Like

1773
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 7: they're like hockey players are known as not being hard of.

1774
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 8: I was a farm boy, you know that kind of thing.

1775
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 10: Where else other than football? Can you have a heart?

1776
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 10: Oh punter who is now a celebrity that was watching

1777
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 10: ESPN and and that hard?

1778
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 8: Oh that heart? Oh Matt in the in the dictionary

1779
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 8: when you look it up.

1780
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 3: Mark's in New York, Hey, Mark, Oh, Hi, good question

1781
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 3: about the Texans and officiating.

1782
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 24: Saw a lot of gun mimicking celebrations from the Texans,

1783
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 24: particularly from the receivers after first down. I know it's

1784
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 24: not the most you know, like the form is shue

1785
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 24: on anyone's mind, But the NFL says a violent gesture?

1786
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 24: So why doesn't it consistently get called? And maybe more importantly,

1787
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 24: is there any mechanism for the past or the media

1788
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 24: to flag it with officials before the game so it

1789
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 24: actually gets called and turns into a fifteen yard on sports?

1790
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 10: And can I ask this question as honestly as I can, Mark,

1791
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 10: do you do you want a guy who points for

1792
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,799
Speaker 10: a first down to get flagged for making a gun gesture?

1793
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 10: Do you want that help?

1794
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 11: That? That?

1795
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 10: Does that help? I'm not talking about the team. You

1796
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 10: were talking about the game last night. Does that when

1797
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 10: you watch a game, do you say to me to yourself?

1798
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 10: You know what I think we need more of fifteen

1799
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 10: yard on sportsmanlike conduct penalties. That's something that is as

1800
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 10: as a fan, as a viewer of the NFL, you

1801
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 10: think there should be more of.

1802
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 24: I mean, as a person with a public platform, or

1803
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 24: you a person who thinks that guns are something that

1804
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 24: should be given.

1805
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 10: They're pointing for first downs first of all. But no,

1806
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 10: I don't, I don't. I'm not offended by any of that.

1807
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 24: No, they're pumping the shotgun and putting their finger on

1808
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 24: the trigger, and they're doing with both their hands.

1809
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not offended by that.

1810
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 5: I mean, the Patriots have musket men for CRYINGO.

1811
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 10: I'm offended when random people go up to people in

1812
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 10: cock cars and just bowl them away. That offends me,

1813
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 10: But someone on a football field doing that doesn't really

1814
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 10: bother me.

1815
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1816
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, if you violate the rules,

1817
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 3: should you be flagged?

1818
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 5: But I don't know. I didn't.

1819
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 10: Plenty for first downs isn't violating the rule. But I

1820
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 10: don't want to see that. I think it's a dumb rule.

1821
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 10: I don't want to see games impacted by moronic.

1822
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 3: Listen thought Randy Moss wiping his bum on the goalpost

1823
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 3: was funny.

1824
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 10: Absolutely, I don't want to see that called either, Mark, Mark.

1825
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 5: Thanks for the call.

1826
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 4: I think he was kidding, right, I don't.

1827
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 10: I don't. That's why I asked him. Can I honestly

1828
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 10: ask you a question?

1829
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 4: Is that they work That was a bit?

1830
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 10: Maybe maybe maybe he knew I would.

1831
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 5: Be triggered by it, no pun intended.

1832
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, maybe he knew that that would be something that

1833
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 10: I would respond to. And maybe you're right, maybe it

1834
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 10: was a he worked me over and now he got

1835
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 10: one over on me. They do that.

1836
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,759
Speaker 6: He wants a shotgun and then he wants the media

1837
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 6: to shed light on it so that it gets called

1838
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 6: on Sunday.

1839
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 4: It can't be a serious call. I'm sorry.

1840
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 10: I think I think it was serious to be But

1841
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 10: you know, it's not the first time I've been fooled.

1842
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 10: Andy Hart once called and made fun of me and

1843
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 10: I didn't even know it was Andy Hart.

1844
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 8: Has ever predicted Greg Roman has just been fired.

1845
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was like, come on, Minros. I mean they

1846
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 6: had to like do like Jim Harbaugh was gon, it

1847
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 6: was either going to be Roman or the whole staff

1848
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 6: was going to get well.

1849
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 3: I like it that the Patriots are back to getting

1850
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 3: coaches fired.

1851
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 4: It was bad. It was bad.

1852
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 5: What's up, Austin, Austin, Austin, You there, Austin.

1853
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 8: That's Austin's music.

1854
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 5: Oh okay, Austin gave up.

1855
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 9: Uh.

1856
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 5: So we'll go to Pennsylvania where Patrick is. Hey Patrick, Hey, guys.

1857
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 25: I will be attending my first playoff game of Sunday

1858
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 25: Agellette tickets back in Thanksgiving or so, so I'm really

1859
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 25: glad it's actually happening. Wow, they're open for a great game,

1860
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 25: great weather, and of course will win. But wanted to

1861
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 25: ask the experts, who are you know, boots on the

1862
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 25: ground for every game? What's the ideal time to show up?

1863
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 25: Is the atmosphere like different around.

1864
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 26: Playoff game that it comes to tailgating?

1865
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 25: Given the games at three, do you guys think I'm

1866
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 25: crazy by tell my buddies I want to get there at.

1867
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 3: Seven seven am, seven am, Well, the lots don't open

1868
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 3: until four hours before the game.

1869
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 10: Crazy.

1870
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 5: Sometimes a little earlier.

1871
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 10: It wouldn't be anybody here for us at seven am.

1872
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 3: I want to think that's a little early. You can't

1873
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 3: get into lots any way to tailgate. But you know,

1874
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 3: if you get here around noon, you know you could

1875
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 3: do that or even you know, eleven o'clock.

1876
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, lots will be open eleven.

1877
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 4: I appreciate the passion.

1878
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 6: I mean we haven't We don't get to do that,

1879
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 6: so I I like, I haven't done it in ten years.

1880
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 10: Wish I had to tell you. I wish I had

1881
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 10: a time.

1882
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 8: I know, the feeling. My first game here, me and

1883
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 8: my sister were here way too early.

1884
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, we I would say, like, you know, usually get

1885
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 6: here what like two three hours before a kick in,

1886
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 6: Like the traffic's like sort of starting to pick up

1887
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 6: around this point.

1888
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 8: It was more busy this week than than the playoff

1889
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 8: game then, so.

1890
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 4: If you're trying to get here before, like it really

1891
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 4: gets crazy.

1892
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 10: I think it tends to be busy night games because

1893
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 10: every while, yeah, every was coming the same time.

1894
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, get it at eleven seven am. Jesus, I'm glad

1895
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 6: we were able to tell him not to do that.

1896
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 8: What's the Weatherland, It is supposed to be cold too,

1897
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 8: it might snow.

1898
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 10: Well.

1899
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: I like what they do in Buffalo where they allow

1900
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 3: the r vs to come in and park overnight.

1901
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 10: Really yeah I did that, you did that?

1902
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 5: I did? Yeah, we should do that one yeah, yeah,

1903
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 5: all right, ninety eight.

1904
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 10: I I think it was ninety eight talking about hard

1905
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 10: os oh RV.

1906
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 8: They also fired their offensive line coach.

1907
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, that Ell wants to know first.

1908
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 3: He says Evan's cameo on the postgame show was fantastic.

1909
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 5: We need more postgame Evan. What makes Paul more angry

1910
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 5: that Drake maye nickname? Or when Chisholm has a more

1911
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 5: productive game than Pop.

1912
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 10: I'll let you know when it happens.

1913
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 4: Wow, a nice twenty yard catch in this game.

1914
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true. You got to catch.

1915
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1916
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 6: They were playing cloud to a lot of cloud to

1917
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,440
Speaker 6: the fields, kept throwing those whole shots.

1918
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 4: No, I'd like to.

1919
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 7: See more out of Pop. I had a little talk

1920
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 7: with f this morning, and I just I.

1921
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 4: Have he's really upset about it.

1922
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 8: I'm not upset about it.

1923
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 7: I just I saw Pop get open a little bit

1924
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 7: and I'm starting to wonder if he's just not really

1925
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 7: Drake's kind of guy, and it just doesn't really seem

1926
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 7: to look his way consistently.

1927
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 10: I do think the catch radius is an issue.

1928
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1929
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 5: The Charges also fired their o line coach, Mike Devlin.

1930
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 5: Did we say that?

1931
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, so you're reading an ema.

1932
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 5: Wasn't listening.

1933
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 10: I Uh, good, Fred.

1934
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 6: It's been on my mind a lot with Pop, Like,

1935
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 6: I don't know, he's he's speedy's fast. He seems like

1936
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 6: he creates a separation. He's not the best against his

1937
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 6: own I think that that's a The number one thing is,

1938
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,879
Speaker 6: you know, he's not the best to kind of understand

1939
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 6: where the soft spots are and where uh you know,

1940
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 6: settle and things like that. But uh, and then I

1941
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 6: think the catch radious. Like I think the fact that he's,

1942
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 6: you know, a smaller guy is a little bit harder

1943
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 6: to throw too.

1944
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 10: And I think Drake tends to throw the ball a

1945
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 10: little bit higher outside. I mean, I think of a

1946
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 10: lot of catches that we've seen from Henry, uh, from

1947
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 10: Hooper and from Hollins this year that that you know,

1948
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 10: the ball was well outside the you know, sort of

1949
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 10: the torso. And you can't throw those same passes to Douglas.

1950
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel a lot of his passes have been

1951
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 8: more down the field this year.

1952
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 10: And yeah, you know it's just surprising. But but I

1953
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 10: don't care if it's if it's Chisholm, if it's Williams,

1954
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 10: if it's Douglas, They're gonna need somebody to help out

1955
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 10: Diggs and Booty. Yep, yep, this could be a pop game.

1956
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 4: You know, I could see Houston playing man. Uh. He

1957
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 4: had a good game against them last year.

1958
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 6: And even though the Patriots stuff has changed significantly, Houston

1959
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 6: really hasn't.

1960
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 8: You know.

1961
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 6: It's the same defense, same coaching staff. If they play

1962
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 6: a lot of man coverage, you know, whether it's them

1963
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 6: or down the road or whatever, like, they're going to

1964
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 6: have to have somebody that can get open.

1965
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,480
Speaker 10: First touchdown passed. With Drake May's career, does ever anybody remember.

1966
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 7: Right the bomb behind the booty, bomb behind me? Stingley

1967
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 7: can beat a point, Parlo take a shot.

1968
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 5: Jordan writes in It's amazing. This is a good email

1969
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 5: for Paul.

1970
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 3: It's amazing how little respect the Patriots have gotten from

1971
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 3: the national media. All I heard was how Caleb is

1972
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: an elite quarterback, or the forty nine is upsetting the Eagles,

1973
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,879
Speaker 3: But nothing on the Patriots defense absolutely dominating the charges.

1974
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 5: All I hear is the Patriots haven't beaten anyone. Let's

1975
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:34,919
Speaker 5: see what happens.

1976
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 3: But then I thought, of all our best teams had

1977
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 3: a chip on their shoulder, whether it was the Brady

1978
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 3: four game suspension year or the Julian telling Tom you're

1979
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 3: too old, then going on to beat Kansas City on

1980
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 3: the road. I think this team can hot ride the

1981
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 3: you haven't beat anyone mantra.

1982
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 5: All the way to a super Bowl victory. So there

1983
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 5: you go.

1984
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 10: Now, that one, I think was what you were talking

1985
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 10: about with the call.

1986
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 6: I think so, I mean, I know how you watch

1987
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 6: that game on Saturday night and not just watch Caleb

1988
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 6: in the second half and be like that throw he

1989
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 6: made on fourth down was.

1990
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 10: He stinks unbelievable.

1991
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 4: I mean that was crazy.

1992
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 10: Let me fill you in from two to six on

1993
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 10: the Sports Up. He stinks.

1994
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 6: He's got some words to his game, Like he's way

1995
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 6: more inconsistent than Drake may is right now. But he

1996
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 6: makes some throws man that on like only a couple

1997
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 6: guys can make in the league.

1998
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 5: It was a fun game, yeah, Justin and Brookline. Two

1999
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 5: critical critical questions for everyone, not just the ball knowers,

2000
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 5: regarding the defense. One, how did Zach Kerr and the

2001
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 5: Patriots defense solve the tight end coverage in this game?

2002
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 5: I feel like Gadsden was blanketed, but I couldn't tell

2003
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 5: who was on him in coverage.

2004
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what my opinion of this is.

2005
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 7: And maybe I'm wrong, but I felt like they were

2006
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 7: just forcing him to get it out so quick that

2007
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 7: he just didn't. It's not his favorite guy, you know,

2008
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 7: it's if he had time to scan the field and

2009
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 7: get to him.

2010
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 8: And I think we saw him on one fourth down

2011
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 8: play he.

2012
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 7: Did get to him, but they felt like they were

2013
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 7: four the issue and he really wants to go to

2014
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 7: lab McConkey. Uh, you know the three receivers that he has,

2015
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 7: and they just weren't letting him get through it.

2016
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did.

2017
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 6: They played a lot of his own so like it

2018
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 6: wasn't like it was like one particular guy on him

2019
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 6: the whole time. But one of the things that they

2020
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 6: did do that I that I liked was they played

2021
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 6: a little bit more dime defense, you know, six defensive backs,

2022
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 6: and they put del Pettis on the field a little bit.

2023
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 6: And del Pettis had a couple of good Man coverage

2024
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 6: reps against him. But I like it when they put

2025
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 6: that extra defensive back on the field because you can

2026
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 6: do something else with the third safety. You know, the

2027
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 6: third safety can blitz. He can play you know, Robert

2028
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 6: coverage in the middle of the field. It gives you

2029
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 6: a lot more flexibility on third down.

2030
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 3: Also, he wants to know, does anyone else agree that

2031
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 3: Robert Spalane's voice kind of sounds like the mccordy Twins.

2032
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 5: Yes. I was thinking that.

2033
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 8: Just the other night when my head.

2034
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, close your eyes, it does sound like Devin

2035
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 3: a little bit.

2036
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 6: Out of all of the fifty three guys in that

2037
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 6: locker room, the one that came out with the fire quote,

2038
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 6: I would never have guessed would have been Spilling like

2039
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 6: he's usually so like tight lipped and kind of close

2040
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 6: to the vest type of guy. And when he gave

2041
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 6: that response about what the Chargers players were saying, I

2042
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 6: was like, holy crap, that's what you said that.

2043
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 8: What was your question exactly? We didn't hear the question

2044
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 8: we just got.

2045
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 6: I just asked him, you know, as the guy that

2046
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 6: was obviously wearing the green dot, like, what was it like,

2047
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 6: you know here in core call that game?

2048
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 4: And that's when he just said, you.

2049
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 7: Know, watching watching spoiling play Like I felt like there

2050
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 7: was no sign of any kind of ankle injury to

2051
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 7: me at all, And it made me think that they

2052
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 7: really probably might have just been like let's just shut

2053
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 7: you down.

2054
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 10: Get healthy. The last game for sure, he could have

2055
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 10: come back for I think they did the same thing

2056
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 10: with Milton Williams.

2057
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.

2058
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 6: It was just really cool to watch him communicate, Like

2059
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 6: just watching him pre snap, just direct guys and you know,

2060
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,799
Speaker 6: they shift here and he's you know, moving guys around.

2061
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 6: You can see him making hand signals to check in

2062
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 6: and out of things, and you know all their different

2063
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 6: you know, bunches and trips and all the different checks

2064
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 6: that they make in a game, and he was just

2065
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 6: on it.

2066
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 4: He was just on all of it.

2067
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 7: I think you can tell a lot about a defense

2068
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 7: when you watch him and you see the communication like that,

2069
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 7: and you see how quickly everyone's on the same page.

2070
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 7: And you'll see other defenses sometimes and you know, even

2071
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 7: the Patriots defense at times over the years, but you

2072
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 7: can see that frantic communication right before the snap of

2073
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 7: his everybody getting the signal, and a lot of times

2074
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 7: with this Patriots defense when they're on you just see

2075
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 7: everybody looks, everybody does a thing, and then right back

2076
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 7: in you can tell that they're all locked in.

2077
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 3: Nick in Boston writes in I agree with Evan that

2078
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 3: getting a playoff win helps validate this season. It also

2079
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 3: helps fight off the Twitter trolls, which is just as important.

2080
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 3: Of course, since the Texans play a vanilla scheme built

2081
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 3: on having better players across the board, what is the

2082
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 3: approach for McDaniels to exploit them?

2083
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 5: What is the weakness?

2084
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 3: Also, if Darian Lowe had the game that Campbell had

2085
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 3: against the Charges, the fan base would be melting down.

2086
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 3: I think we are seeing his limitations at the highest level.

2087
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 3: I will wait until the summer or to take my

2088
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 3: Membo Victory lap.

2089
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 6: Well, Membo plays right tackle, so that would have really helped.

2090
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 6: But yeah, they look Campbell struggled in the game, and

2091
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 6: I'm not like going to say that he didn't. It's

2092
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 6: not the same as Vidarien Lowe because Darren Lowe is

2093
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 6: not a rookie playing his first ever playoff game, and

2094
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 6: isn't it you know, you're not expecting him to improve

2095
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 6: at all like Campbell. You're hoping that this was a

2096
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 6: learning experience for him, something that he can grow from

2097
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 6: and you know, experience for the first time, So you know,

2098
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 6: I think that was a little bit of the part

2099
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 6: of why Jared Wilson played in this game too.

2100
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 4: Like I think that they view both those guys on

2101
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 4: the left side.

2102
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's going to be at center

2103
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 6: guard for Wilson, but they're going to be two starters

2104
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 6: on this offensive line for at least their rookie contracts.

2105
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 6: They think, and you hope that you're going to be

2106
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 6: playing a lot of playoff games, you know, during that

2107
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 6: span of time, and the only way to get him

2108
01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 6: ready for that is to have him play.

2109
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 3: You know who deserves you know, kind of uh uh

2110
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 3: an apology Chisholm. No, Garrett Bradbury coming in, Everyone's like, oh,

2111
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,719
Speaker 3: look at the stats against the past. You know last

2112
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 3: year with the Vikings, he's going to be terrible. He

2113
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 3: hasn't been. He's been fine.

2114
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 10: So I would agree with your assessment of the player's performance.

2115
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 10: He's been more than fine. I think he's been excellent

2116
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 10: all season. But do you have to apologize for people

2117
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 10: who said that he didn't have a good year last.

2118
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 5: Year because they didn't put it in context?

2119
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 10: What was the context?

2120
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 3: If you look close about what was happening during those games,

2121
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:32,919
Speaker 3: it wasn't.

2122
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 8: All his fault.

2123
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 3: Okay, this is one of those things where PFF had

2124
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 3: him here and I watched the game.

2125
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 6: I watched the game for it was like the past

2126
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 6: protection for him in his last year in Minnesota was rough.

2127
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 8: So what happened then? Did you feel like he but

2128
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 8: he's been really good.

2129
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 6: I wonder, I wonder how much of it is, you know,

2130
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 6: system related. You know, guys talk a lot about how

2131
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 6: streamlined this this system is and the past protection rules

2132
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 6: are and uh, you know this stuff like that. I mean,

2133
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 6: this is essentially Dante Scarnekia's system that Josh McDaniel still

2134
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 6: runs just with it, you know, his own twist on it.

2135
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 6: So the proof's in the putting of whether it works

2136
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 6: or not. And I just wonder if maybe that the

2137
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 6: system change helped him out a little bit. But I mean,

2138
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 6: Paul's right, like last year in Minnesota was tough, like

2139
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 6: but this year was definite.

2140
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 5: Like his whole career hasn't been like that.

2141
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 6: He's never been like a great pass protector, becaus a

2142
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 6: little bit under sized, but last year was particularly bad.

2143
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 6: Into his credit, he's bounced back and he I think

2144
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 6: at this point, you know him and Moses, I thought

2145
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 6: Moses was probably their best lineman in this game. On

2146
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 6: Sunday night. You know, you probably want to bring those

2147
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 6: guys back for another year and keep it rolling if

2148
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 6: you can.

2149
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh so then.

2150
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 3: But the reason I thought of that is, you know,

2151
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 3: you talked about Jared Wilson, like, if the ultimate plan

2152
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 3: is to move him at center, how long are you

2153
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 3: going to delay that?

2154
01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 6: I know, I know it's a good question, and I

2155
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 6: I think Jared Wilson's the center. I think it just

2156
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 6: fits his body type better, and it fits his skill

2157
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 6: set better because he is a little bit undersized to

2158
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 6: play guard and gets pushed around a little bit at

2159
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 6: guard by some of the bigger defensive tackles. So I

2160
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 6: would move him to center if they can, But Bradberry's

2161
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 6: been so solid that it is a tough decision.

2162
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 3: Miles writes in something that bugged me on Sunday. All

2163
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 3: day during the morning and afternoon games, the NFL was

2164
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 3: using the virtual spot assist on close calls for first downs.

2165
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 3: Then the Patriots game comes on and Herbert I think

2166
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 3: reaches through on a third down and the rest felt

2167
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 3: like he reached his arm out in the pile to

2168
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 3: get the first Even the comment commentators didn't think he

2169
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 3: got it. The play didn't end up mattering. I'm just

2170
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 3: curious what constitutes the use of the spot assist feature

2171
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 3: and why they couldn't just use it.

2172
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 10: There so two different things. I would agree that I

2173
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 10: thought that that was a curious reversal of their original

2174
01:34:55,080 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 10: call that he had made the line to gain the

2175
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 10: problem the virtual assist, the ball was spotted wherever it's spotted,

2176
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 10: and then they virtually assisted to see if he got

2177
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,679
Speaker 10: the first down. That wasn't in question where they put

2178
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 10: the ball got the first down. The question was did

2179
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,719
Speaker 10: they put the ball in the right spot? Did Herbert

2180
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 10: get where? You know, as far as they spotted the ball,

2181
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 10: and I think the Collinsworth and in Tariico felt like

2182
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 10: they didn't. I think we all kind of felt in

2183
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 10: the press box that didn't really seem like it was

2184
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 10: definitive that he had reached the line the game, right,

2185
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 10: I mean, speaking for you, Yes, I didn't think he

2186
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 10: got the first.

2187
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 7: Down when we were they call it short. They called

2188
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 7: it short and they reversed it correct.

2189
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I think is crazy.

2190
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it didn't not care, you know, let

2191
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 10: me well.

2192
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 7: And then they had another one where the the whole

2193
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,520
Speaker 7: virtual assist is not needed, the whole virtualist.

2194
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 10: He was past the thing the problem was I think

2195
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 10: it was a bad spot.

2196
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 6: It's a the whole virtual assisting is that. I don't

2197
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 6: understand it. It adds nothing.

2198
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 10: It's useless.

2199
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 4: It's absolutely useless. Like it doesn't spot the ball.

2200
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 6: It's just measuring what he got the first down, just

2201
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 6: like the chain gang would if they ran the chains

2202
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 6: out there like they normally do. So I just maybe

2203
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 6: it's the first step towards like technology spotting the ball

2204
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,799
Speaker 6: and they just wanted to test this step first before

2205
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 6: they threw the gamut at it.

2206
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 4: But like it's to waste the.

2207
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 10: Time and just to reiterate just real quick if they

2208
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 10: did reverse it. They originally call on the field was

2209
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 10: that he was he was stopped short of the line

2210
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 10: to gain. The call was reversed by replay. The replay

2211
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 10: official reviewed it and he determined that he had reached

2212
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 10: the line to gain. So it wasn't like, well, if

2213
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 10: they brought the sticks out or they did, virtual assistant

2214
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 10: would have showed that he was short. That's not what

2215
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 10: the issue was. The issue was where they spotted the ball.

2216
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark Poland says, I hate to be that guy.

2217
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 3: I thought this is interesting, you know, it's a little

2218
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 3: bit off topic, but I believe this deserves an explanation

2219
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 3: as it's been the vocal point of the past few shows.

2220
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 3: Didn't want to ruin the fun as I absolutely loved

2221
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 3: the nickname. But all the Drake Drake may may name

2222
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 3: origin theories are wrong. The truth is it's, unfortunately just

2223
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 3: a stolen bit. It originated in twenty nineteen and it

2224
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 3: was first used for Nas Reed of Minnesota Timberwolves. It

2225
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 3: started with Wolves fans just randomly typing nas Reed under

2226
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 3: random posts online, so nas nas red Red became his nickname.

2227
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 5: Then in the NFL Giants fan.

2228
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 3: Then used it for Evan Evan Neil Neil, but as

2229
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 3: he sucks nobody, but the Giants fans remember it, and

2230
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 3: last year Pages fans, mainly Drake may Lover, just started

2231
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 3: using it for Drake.

2232
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 5: That's it.

2233
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 3: All the Tom Brady theories, et cetera are completely false.

2234
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 3: The truth is it's just a stolen bit.

2235
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 6: Uh yes and no, okay, So he's right about naz Reid.

2236
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 4: I know, you know that's true.

2237
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 6: This is not so that was seven years ago, but

2238
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 6: they didn't invent it in that sense. But it is

2239
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 6: definitely picking up way more steam than the nas Reed

2240
01:37:58,479 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 6: thing you ever did.

2241
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 5: That's beside the point.

2242
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 6: But no, Reed is a sixth man in the NBA

2243
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 6: that comes off the te wolves bench like this is

2244
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 6: this is a much different thing.

2245
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 8: Uh.

2246
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 6: And then the the Tom Brady thing was that some

2247
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 6: they were calling him Drake Tom Brady May as if

2248
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 6: to like say, he's the next goat. We know that, right,

2249
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 6: We've been over that, right, So then that that's this

2250
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 6: we're we were talking about the origin of it for

2251
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 6: Drake May.

2252
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 10: Okay, no one cares about.

2253
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 4: What happened with NASERI ten years ago.

2254
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 10: I kind of care if it's a stolen bit, it's not.

2255
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 4: I don't call it stolen. That's a stretch.

2256
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 3: Other people have been called the goat before. But Brady,

2257
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:39,520
Speaker 3: it's more applicable.

2258
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 8: I mean, on I heard them refer to Josh Josh

2259
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 8: Allen Allen and that was like, oh, this can't no, no, no, no, no,

2260
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 8: you can't.

2261
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 10: Now that's stolen.

2262
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 6: No that I don't understand what the problem is, whether

2263
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 6: it was stolen or not.

2264
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 4: Still like, I don't know, I just get back to.

2265
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 10: The original premise. Not all that funny.

2266
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 8: It needs to be funny.

2267
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 10: I don't know why it needs to be funny. I

2268
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 10: just don't think it's funny.

2269
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 5: Nicknames are't supposed to be funny. Names are fun, they're fun,

2270
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:08,839
Speaker 5: but they don't have to be funny.

2271
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 10: This one's not.

2272
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 5: Is it different?

2273
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 10: Neither? It's not fun nor fun.

2274
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 8: Nas it's fun or funny.

2275
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 4: Good player is a nice player, but like we're not.

2276
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,679
Speaker 4: He's a stretch five. You wouldn't understand.

2277
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:22,719
Speaker 8: Here's an email.

2278
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 3: I just saw the headline and I knew I might

2279
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 3: like it.

2280
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 5: Second down sneaks.

2281
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 10: Oh, Fred is so annoyed all the time.

2282
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 3: Stan up here in Buffalo Country. I wonder if you

2283
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 3: ever discussed the second and one quarterbacks? And he's as

2284
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 3: bothers the heck out of me. Thank you, Josh from Syracuse.

2285
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 3: Maybe with the short yardist problems, the thought is, let's

2286
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 3: just get the.

2287
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 5: First down and move on. It should be a down

2288
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 5: distance where we take a shot down field. Any thought?

2289
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 10: I agree?

2290
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 5: I don't. You don't necessarily have to be a shot.

2291
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 3: But your whole playbook is open if you don't get it,

2292
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 3: if it's an incomplete or whatever your book. You know, like,

2293
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 3: why would you waste it on a quarterback.

2294
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 6: Sneak because they can't pick up a third and one.

2295
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 6: They really struggle in short yards. Third you've gained a yard, yeah, exactly,

2296
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 6: and you don't have to play third down.

2297
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 10: I don't like it.

2298
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 8: I hear it.

2299
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying in terms of like it in.

2300
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 10: Even and I think it's something that they done.

2301
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 5: Even a little swing pass of the back, maybe he

2302
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 5: breaks it, there's no chance of a bigger play once

2303
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 5: the quarterback dies forward. That's it.

2304
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 6: I don't think they want to be in third and short.

2305
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 6: I don't think they could. I don't think they want

2306
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 6: to be in there.

2307
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 10: I agree with you that they've struggled in those situations

2308
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 10: of the worst. But I think that Josh's offense is

2309
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 10: not just Josh. It was when Billy Oh was here,

2310
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 10: and going back to Charlie Weiss, they did that a lot.

2311
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 10: The second and one sneak just to get the first out. Yeah,

2312
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 10: and I and Fred is in fairness to Fred, this

2313
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,679
Speaker 10: is something that it has bothered him for a long time.

2314
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 10: But I kind of agree with Fred on it. I

2315
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 10: think it's passing up an opportunity to make a play.

2316
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 10: I agree, if you get the next two, then what

2317
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 10: are we doing?

2318
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 6: I agree, if you're on the other side of the fifty. Like,

2319
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 6: if you're on the opponent's side of the and you're right,

2320
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 6: you know, let's say you're between you know, the twenty

2321
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 6: five in the fifty, that's a shot play opportunity to

2322
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,759
Speaker 6: the end zone, right, So it's a little bit different.

2323
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 6: Whereas if you're on you know, the other side, your

2324
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 6: side of the fifty yard line, I think you know

2325
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 6: to stay out a third down there and just yeah.

2326
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 10: I would say if you're up in your own end,

2327
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 10: like it may be inside, you're twenty and it's second

2328
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 10: and one, sure get the first down. There's value in

2329
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 10: the field position or whatever. Otherwise you should be able

2330
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 10: to get the first down.

2331
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 4: With two more plays, you should be able to. But

2332
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 4: everybody can.

2333
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 3: Uh Noah thinks from Toronto, Ben Brown needs to start

2334
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 3: over Jared Wilson. Wilson has not been good all year,

2335
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 3: and I think Vrabel is only starting him to make

2336
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 3: his draft look better.

2337
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 5: I don't know about that.

2338
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:52,600
Speaker 6: I agree that the Ben Brown conversation should needs to

2339
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 6: be had. I don't I don't expect it to be

2340
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 6: had because it seems like they that's the five they

2341
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:00,680
Speaker 6: started the season with, and that's the five that they

2342
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 6: kind of want to stick with. But there's no doubt

2343
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 6: that Ben Brown has been better than what we saw

2344
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 6: from Jared Wilson on Sunday Night, that's for sure.

2345
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 7: He wants to justify Ben Brown's extension now, and maybe

2346
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 7: it's time to switch and say this is why we

2347
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 7: extended him too.

2348
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 6: I think there's something to be said for the fact

2349
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 6: that Ben Brown's a little bit girthier. He's a little

2350
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 6: bit bigger body type, and especially when you have Campbell

2351
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 6: at left tackle, who is already a little bit of

2352
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 6: a narrower build, when you put him and Jared Wilson

2353
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 6: next to each other on the left side, they're just small.

2354
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 4: They're just not They're just a small left side of

2355
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 4: the lot out there.

2356
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, So you know when that's what the whole wingspan

2357
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:39,879
Speaker 6: thing is. It's an amount of space that you literally

2358
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 6: take up your your square footage on the field. And

2359
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 6: I think Ben Brown's, you know, got a little bit

2360
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 6: more size to him and a little bit more with

2361
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 6: to him that allows him to take up a little

2362
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 6: bit more space.

2363
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 5: Working out some kinks. Oh, Patty's an agamon? What's up?

2364
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 8: Patty?

2365
01:42:58,479 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 2: It was like.

2366
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 9: Hello, so hello, can you hear me?

2367
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:04,679
Speaker 1: Hello?

2368
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 17: Okay, sorry, So just talking about the officiating, Paul, I'm

2369
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 17: with you. I don't want to see any more flags

2370
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 17: than we necessarily need to see. In fact, one of

2371
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 17: you guys had the idea of like the illegal man downfield.

2372
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 17: I think that needs to go or at least like

2373
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 17: make it within five yards. Nothing crazy, but like there's

2374
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 17: just there's way too many of those calls that are

2375
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 17: being thrown out there.

2376
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 4: It would be impossible to play defense if you take

2377
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 4: out illegal man downfield.

2378
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think you could just let the guys

2379
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 10: go downfield and get out and block and whatnot. But

2380
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 10: I do think that that there's a happy medium to

2381
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 10: what Patty's talking about. Maybe give him a little more

2382
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 10: leeway if it's clear that the guy is not he's

2383
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 10: pass blocking, not running down to get in front of

2384
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 10: a screen.

2385
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 6: The issues with the RPOs and like in college, absolutely

2386
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 6: it's crazy, Like they let the linemen get like six

2387
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 6: eight yards down the field and they're the quarterbacks.

2388
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 8: Holding the mesh, holding the mesh.

2389
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 4: I can't do that, Yeah, he can't stop.

2390
01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 10: It's more about the formations, the illegal shifts, those kinds

2391
01:43:59,960 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 10: of penalties I think they could probably yeah, shortened you know,

2392
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 10: shrink the rule book down a little bit.

2393
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 8: Pretty good job by round Torbert on Sunday night.

2394
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 10: For the most part, I thought that the officials weren't

2395
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 10: really a big part of these games. I thought there

2396
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,680
Speaker 10: were some calls that were missed in the game, but

2397
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 10: I would rather have it that way and not look

2398
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 10: at it and say, jeez, we've got another ref show

2399
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 10: on our hands. I thought that was the Rams game,

2400
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 10: the first playoff game. I was like, here we go.

2401
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 10: It's going to be the same thing that we've gotten

2402
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 10: all year. The refs are going to inject themselves. And

2403
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 10: then I was pleasantly surprised that the remaining games, the

2404
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 10: teams generally decided it.

2405
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 3: Craig and Charlotte can't believe we're here talking about the

2406
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 3: Division round playoffs and how to advance to the AFC Championship.

2407
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 3: Admittedly I liked our matchup against the Steelers better, but

2408
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 3: after watching last night's game, I see a path past

2409
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 3: the Texans too, if we can neutralize some of their

2410
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 3: pass rush. On that note, one thing we haven't really

2411
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 3: seen this team do much this year, aside from maybe

2412
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 3: the two minute drill, is you is up tempo to

2413
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 3: keep the defense on the field and wear them down.

2414
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 3: Do you think Josh is saving a tactic like this

2415
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 3: for time like this or do you think it's too

2416
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 3: risky for a young team to execute.

2417
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 8: I wouldn't.

2418
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 7: I mean, I just as Evan laid out, they don't

2419
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 7: really change personnel much. They kind of do what they do.

2420
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 7: So sometimes I think that's an advantage for the offense

2421
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 7: when they do a lot of switching.

2422
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 8: They want to have it.

2423
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 10: But last night those guys were in and out, but not.

2424
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 8: Like to the point where, all right, this is the situation.

2425
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 7: We need a whole new group of guys, Like I mean,

2426
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,759
Speaker 7: there'll be a little bit of mixing matching with the front,

2427
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 7: but I think they.

2428
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 10: Look like seventeen guys play more than twenty percent of

2429
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 10: their snaps on.

2430
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 8: Defense, like four tackles maybe you know.

2431
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,520
Speaker 10: And then what I'm saying is they had autry Rankins,

2432
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 10: Derek Barnett, there was a guy Jones. I can't not

2433
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 10: ninety eight, I want to say. But it's just.

2434
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 7: Rotation, right, Like it's not like they rotate. Oh no,

2435
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 7: we can't rotate this time. We're screwed.

2436
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 8: Like they're fine to like stay with our package out

2437
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 8: there and you.

2438
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 10: Want to hurry. I wonder if I thought that was

2439
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 10: my best way to move the ball, not because I

2440
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,719
Speaker 10: want to dig to with the deef, because you guys,

2441
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,559
Speaker 10: both of you guys talked about how the Texans are

2442
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 10: one of those we do what we do kind of

2443
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 10: the defenses. So it's not like you're trying to get

2444
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 10: them in a package that you you don't want them

2445
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:14,600
Speaker 10: to sup. They're going to do it anyway. Whether you

2446
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 10: can get them out of nickel, like Evan said, with

2447
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 10: Petrie and sort of affect where he's lining up, you

2448
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 10: might be able to do that. But they're going to

2449
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 10: play their style, I would think, but they I think

2450
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 10: you're gonna have to have Drake may play really well.

2451
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 10: You want to move the ball. But like I looked

2452
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 10: at it last night, as I thought the Steelers had

2453
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 10: some opportunities and Rogers isn't in a spot anymore to

2454
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 10: physically do it, I think Drake may will be able

2455
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 10: to make some of those plays that Rogers couldn't.

2456
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 6: Last I think maybe you know, certainly, you know, if

2457
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 6: you get them into base defense and you want to

2458
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 6: go tempo so that they can't take the base defense

2459
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 6: off the field, then maybe you can catch them in

2460
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 6: the matchup like that. I'm not a big fan of

2461
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 6: tempo in general.

2462
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 3: It's just no huddle, right, just go no huddle. They

2463
01:46:57,800 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 3: don't necessarily have to up the tempo.

2464
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 4: You can't huddle.

2465
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,919
Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, I'm not a huge fan of

2466
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 6: of doing of that in general. I think it's it's

2467
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 6: kind of like smoking mirrorsy, like you know, you can

2468
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 6: it can work situationally, it can work in certain spots,

2469
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:17,600
Speaker 6: but I think Chip Kelly taught us that that's not

2470
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,959
Speaker 6: going to work like as like a way of offense

2471
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 6: in the league.

2472
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 7: I think they used it against Rex Ryan a lot

2473
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 7: who wants to do a lot of walking around and

2474
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 7: who's going to be where, And at a certain point

2475
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 7: they're like, we're just going to run the play right again,

2476
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 7: you do what you want to do, you know.

2477
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 5: So yep, good good dudes.

2478
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 3: Uh Daniels in Chicago, what's up to work against Rex Ryan?

2479
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 5: What's up, Daniel?

2480
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 9: Guys for some caller?

2481
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 20: Hear me?

2482
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, get some work going on in the background, Daniel, I.

2483
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 15: Got off speaker. Can you hear me better?

2484
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, we can hear you.

2485
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, Okay, sorry, this is a question I guess for Evan,

2486
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 15: just like looking back up the game and seeing maybe

2487
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 15: Herbert had a couple opportunities to hit Lad McConkie down

2488
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,719
Speaker 15: the field. I know he was open on the right

2489
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 15: side one time and there was just all the space,

2490
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 15: and then when he was running down the scheme, maybe

2491
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 15: he could have thrown a ball over the top. I

2492
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 15: was wondering if you guys are worried that Stroud next

2493
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 15: Sunday is going to be able to hit anything vertical

2494
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 15: on our defund I know our defunds played really well,

2495
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 15: but yeah, that's my question.

2496
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 9: I shall hang up.

2497
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, like, you know, I I think

2498
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 6: I mentioned this during the break, but you know the

2499
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 6: all twenty two dogs are out for justin Herbert right

2500
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 6: now and rightfully so he did not play well. But

2501
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 6: when you start to you know, we're all guilty of

2502
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:47,720
Speaker 6: this at times. When you start to sit there and

2503
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 6: watch the film back on your computer screen, it's really

2504
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 6: easy for you to say it. Sit there and say, well,

2505
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 6: this guy's open, right, that guy's open. Yeah, this guy's open. Uh,

2506
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 6: you're not the one like sitting in the pot with

2507
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 6: Christian Barmore and Milton Williams coming after you. So I

2508
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 6: think that there's some element to it both ways. You know,

2509
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 6: I think he missed probably the four or five opportunities

2510
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 6: that the Patriots gave him to push the ball down

2511
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 6: the field. And you know, I think he said this earlier, Paul,

2512
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 6: he missed all five like it wasn't like he hit

2513
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:21,719
Speaker 6: three in the five.

2514
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 7: I think mostly like fourteen yards, just like the longest play,

2515
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 7: yeah he hit.

2516
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 6: He was zero for five, whether that was missing open

2517
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 6: guys or the ones he tried to attempt, and.

2518
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 10: Stroud did hit some of those. Last night. I took

2519
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 10: Stroud played a terrible game overall, but he hit Kirk

2520
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 10: I think twice on downfield throws. He had another long

2521
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 10: catching run that was a shorter throw. He also put

2522
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 10: one right in nole is not Noel, no no, put

2523
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 10: it right in his hands and the rookie let it

2524
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 10: get threw his hands into his body. And then when

2525
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 10: the hit came and knocked the ball loose. That was

2526
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 10: a good throw too deep down the field. So there

2527
01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 10: were opportunities that Stroud took it advantage of. I thought

2528
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 10: Rogers had the same opportunities and either didn't get the

2529
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 10: proper time or didn't connect on them. So you will

2530
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 10: get chances to make plays down the field. Again, if

2531
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 10: Stroud plays like he did Monday night, they're going to lose.

2532
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 10: He's not going to get away with that against the Patriots.

2533
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2534
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 6: The one thing with Stroud is uh he wants to

2535
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 6: throw in breaking routes to the intermediate part of the field, Like.

2536
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 10: That's where Nico Collins missing is huge.

2537
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:26,759
Speaker 4: That's his game.

2538
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 6: That's his game he wants to you know, if you

2539
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 6: look at all the splits, you know his efficiency throwing

2540
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 6: the intermediate middle is.

2541
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,560
Speaker 10: He's see some of those trolls last night, one to

2542
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,640
Speaker 10: Higgins on an incut one to he wants to Throwson

2543
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 10: early in the game and.

2544
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 5: Loss Gonzo for the Patriots or Collins for the Texans.

2545
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 10: I'd say it's a wash. I think those two really

2546
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 10: important guys for their teams.

2547
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 4: I think that Gonzo has a better chance to play.

2548
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 5: No, but that's not the question.

2549
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 4: I think it's a wash too, But I think Gonzo

2550
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 4: has his best chance to play.

2551
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 5: I need the looks of it. I agree.

2552
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 6: But you know, like Paul said, he was on universe

2553
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 6: like Saturn or something.

2554
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 10: I thought. But if you had told me after the

2555
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 10: game that Christian Gonzalez was going to see some of

2556
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 10: you guys and say I'm fine. I would have said

2557
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 10: no way, not based on the way you walk down

2558
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 10: the tunnel, but he was. So you know, if you're Houston,

2559
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:24,799
Speaker 10: maybe you flew home and he's feeling a lot better today,

2560
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 10: but a lot I.

2561
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 6: Would stay, they're fine, And you know, Millon Williams gets

2562
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 6: put on IR a day later, so you know, I'm

2563
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 6: not saying that's going to happen with Gonzo.

2564
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, I hope it doesn't, and you're right about that.

2565
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 10: You know, maybe Houston gets home and you know he

2566
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 10: feels a lot better. I agree with you guys that

2567
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 10: the visual with the tonnel on the head and getting

2568
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 10: carted off didn't look like he's going to play this week.

2569
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 5: Usually with a head, the guy walks to the locker room.

2570
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:48,719
Speaker 8: Usually.

2571
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was interesting on Friday listening to Jerry Wilson

2572
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:52,599
Speaker 7: just talk about his experience.

2573
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 8: You don't really hear about players talk about it a lot.

2574
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 8: And he was saying, you know, you feel.

2575
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:58,799
Speaker 7: Okay, and then you wake up and you have a headache,

2576
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 7: and you know you just have to roll with the

2577
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 7: punches a little bit, and then finally, you know, he

2578
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 7: woke up, he didn't have a headache, and it's like,

2579
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 7: all right, now I'm getting better.

2580
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 10: But it's it's.

2581
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 7: One of those things you just don't know. I don't

2582
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 7: think we have any idea on either of those guys.

2583
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's weird because that game, Jared Wilson didn't leave

2584
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 6: the game but had a worse concussion than Trevon Henderson,

2585
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 6: who came back the very next week and was being

2586
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 6: played the very next week.

2587
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:23,599
Speaker 4: And Jared Wilson missed two full games.

2588
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,599
Speaker 5: What they consion should have taken him out.

2589
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 8: I think he said it was like the last player

2590
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 8: of the second Yeah, it was like the last.

2591
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 4: Player of the game. So that's why I didn't get

2592
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 4: taken out.

2593
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 3: Eldred, North Carolina, what's up Belt? Oh that's a rare

2594
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 3: hang up by Eldred. Yeah, Nathan writes in I wanted

2595
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 3: to share a brief point about how this season has

2596
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 3: been framed at times, along with a question ahead of

2597
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:48,759
Speaker 3: the Patriots Texans matchup. While I do not think analysts

2598
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:52,759
Speaker 3: leaned too heavily on history, media narratives often framed games

2599
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 3: around past streaks and long standing trends as if they

2600
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 3: meaningfully predict outcomes. In a league built on parody, that

2601
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 3: approach can miss what actually decides a game. A good

2602
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 3: example was Texans Steelers. By historical standards, Pittsburgh had him

2603
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 3: every reason to win. They had not lost a Monday

2604
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 3: night football game since ninety one, while Houston had never

2605
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,639
Speaker 3: won a road playoff game. If history were truly predicted,

2606
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 3: that result should have felt inevitable. Instead, it had no

2607
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 3: bearing once the game began execution blah blah blah.

2608
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 5: That is why niche.

2609
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,759
Speaker 3: Historical arguments about why a team cannot win often fall apart.

2610
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 3: History is relevant only until it is broken, and in

2611
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 3: the NFL, it has broken constantly. From that perspective, there

2612
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 3: is no inherent reason the Patriots cannot become the first

2613
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 3: team to win a Super Bowl after a four win season.

2614
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:43,719
Speaker 5: The year before.

2615
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 4: That was a very long way to get together.

2616
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, point, because I would just say, you picked and

2617
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 10: choosed what you wanted to use for your historical comparisons.

2618
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 10: Because what I've been seeing all day on ESPN as

2619
01:53:55,720 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 10: we're doing our show is the Steelers' recent playoff hishty

2620
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 10: and loss. They have been down by twenty one or

2621
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 10: more points now seven consecutive playoff losses. So did you

2622
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 10: use that as your history, because that's what I was

2623
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 10: using as my history. This team has no chance, right,

2624
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 10: They're not as good as the playoff teams because they're

2625
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 10: not really a playoff team.

2626
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 9: Right.

2627
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 6: The one I was thinking of was West Coast coming

2628
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 6: east in cold weather. Just what the Chargers just did

2629
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 6: and then put up three points. And I don't think

2630
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:29,720
Speaker 6: that's why they put up three points, but that will

2631
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 6: go as another you know stat in the West Coast

2632
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 6: out indoor team, outdoor team.

2633
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 5: You know tench that Sofi Stadium is an outdoor stadium.

2634
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 4: Yes, outdoors an eighty degree weather.

2635
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, And the same thing that was going around last

2636
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 7: week with like the circadian rhythms of West Coast teams,

2637
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 7: like they're going to be ready to play.

2638
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 10: Come up with all these things.

2639
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 5: One other question from Nate.

2640
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 3: He says, if something goes wrong early in the game Sunday,

2641
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 3: which team do you trust more to settle in and

2642
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 3: respond within the game rather than letting it spiral?

2643
01:54:58,720 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 10: Patriots.

2644
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 8: Yes, they've shown it already.

2645
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 6: That's how you want this game to go. You want

2646
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 6: the Patriots to get a lead and make that Texans

2647
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 6: offense have to score.

2648
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2649
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 10: I just watched C. J. Stroud the other last night,

2650
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 10: and I didn't think he responded well to some of

2651
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 10: the early adversity and it seemed like it rattled him,

2652
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 10: whereas I've seen Drake may have some struggles early in

2653
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 10: games and he just commediately responds to it.

2654
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2655
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 7: Man, it's still a new development though. That's like I

2656
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 7: still am, like, I think I feel good about it,

2657
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 7: but I'm also you know, it's it's also new.

2658
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 10: Plus their home, you know, I would give the home

2659
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 10: team more of an opportunity to overcome you know, early stumbles.

2660
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 3: Mary, No, this is yeah, Mary right. Sin Official colon

2661
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 3: Sean Smith will be the referee for the next game

2662
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 3: of the Patriots unfavorable trend for the home team.

2663
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 5: While other referees see the.

2664
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 3: Home team win fifty five point nine percent of the time,

2665
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:54,840
Speaker 3: with Smith, it drops to forty point eight averages eleven

2666
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 3: flags per game in his last four playoff games.

2667
01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 10: Wow, but that's a that's a daggering numbers.

2668
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 7: Home teams only win forty percent of the time when

2669
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 7: this guy refs yep.

2670
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,879
Speaker 3: Was the referee for the Patriots Giants of this season

2671
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 3: thirty three to fifteen in favor of new England, so.

2672
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 10: That was one of the forty.

2673
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 5: The Patriots record with him as referee is two and one. Okay,

2674
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 5: some good insight from Mary, Thank you.

2675
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 8: I try to ignore those things. I don't even want to.

2676
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 8: I don't even know who the ref is. I don't

2677
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 8: want I think. Last week I heard I know tour Bird,

2678
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 8: so I was a little bit into it.

2679
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 6: But the best is when like the you know, somebody

2680
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 6: like Mike Grease who I love, will tweet like the

2681
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 6: ref the ref's number, like you know numbers, just judge

2682
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 6: no number sixty two in your program.

2683
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 7: I love me some Mike Grease, but man, he'll tweet

2684
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:37,839
Speaker 7: some minutia.

2685
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 10: Yes, not really of any value.

2686
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 5: Parker says, part of why Paul is struggling with the

2687
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 5: nickname of Drake May is because this.

2688
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 3: Is Internet culture twenty twenty six. Things don't always make sense.

2689
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 10: But that I just want to Spider Man meme.

2690
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 3: That is the point six seven literally means nothing when

2691
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 3: it comes to deep Internet culture. Drake's nickname not making

2692
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 3: complete sense is part of what is fueling it. It

2693
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 3: becomes a if you know, you know thing, even though

2694
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 3: there's not much to know.

2695
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 10: All right, all right, well, listen I think that's largely accurate. Yeah,

2696
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 10: you don't want to get to the last couple of calls.

2697
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 3: Listen now that's oh, we got a couple of callers.

2698
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 3: Oh okay. Sometimes when I look at my computer screen

2699
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 3: and then I look up at the board, I can't

2700
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 3: read it. Sean Sean is Sean Sean, otherwise known as

2701
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 3: Sean from Boston.

2702
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 5: What's up?

2703
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 15: Hey, guys?

2704
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 5: Have it going okay?

2705
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:31,160
Speaker 9: Awesome?

2706
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 26: So I just had a couple of things that I

2707
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 26: wanted to say. The first thing was that I was

2708
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 26: at the game this past weekend and it was my

2709
01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 26: first game ever, and it was just a great experience

2710
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:41,680
Speaker 26: because I remember in the twenty fourteen Divisional round against

2711
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 26: the Ravens, there was a moment where the crowd was

2712
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 26: singing your Love by the outfield and it sounded like

2713
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 26: such a cool experience to be there, and I was

2714
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 26: able to experience that feeling again when it happened this

2715
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 26: past weekend in my first game ever. So I just

2716
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 26: wanted to like shout out the fan base because it's

2717
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,400
Speaker 26: just like such an awesome community and such an awesome feeling.

2718
01:57:57,440 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 10: There's a good crowd Sunday night. Yeah, that's a good crowd.

2719
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 3: Good shot out Sean, that's actually my thing for the

2720
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 3: PU TV show talk about the crowd, and Vrabel even

2721
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 3: mentioned it.

2722
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was pretty good. Digs evidently didn't, but everybody

2723
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 10: else thought it was good.

2724
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 3: And I thought, and I thought maybe, I don't know,

2725
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 3: maybe the sound was better. But it was one of

2726
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 3: the few games I can remember here at Gillette where

2727
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 3: the fans sang along for the national anthem, which doesn't

2728
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 3: happen a lot here.

2729
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2730
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was two times Hunter Henry's touchdown and Elis

2731
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 6: his fumble recovery where the press box was shaping.

2732
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 10: Hunter henry touchdown. I definitely felt it, and.

2733
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 4: That's not that doesn't happen very often year.

2734
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 10: So I don't remember it since that game that he's

2735
01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 10: talking about, Baltimore game be four teams the last time

2736
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 10: I remember the stadium showing.

2737
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 3: It's a new vibe here with the team. Maybe it's

2738
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:42,120
Speaker 3: a new vibe with the fans too.

2739
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 6: It's hard to like get really jazz up first sixteen

2740
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 6: to three game.

2741
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, I disagree. Those defensive stops get you going,

2742
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 5: come on, waiting.

2743
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 10: For that big thing. I'm pretty ventful.

2744
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 6: Like well, I think Diggs was talking about some of

2745
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 6: the lulls, and I think some of the lows were

2746
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 6: because it was a pun festival like two quarters.

2747
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 5: But when when you.

2748
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 3: Make them go three and out or you force them

2749
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 3: to punt on a third down, stop, crowd should get

2750
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 3: up for that.

2751
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:12,440
Speaker 6: I don't disagree, but it's not gonna happen like it

2752
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:13,760
Speaker 6: would for a touchdown or.

2753
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 7: Player introductions growing on you at all. I know you

2754
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 7: weren't a fan of that early. You still don't like it.

2755
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 7: You like introduce as a team.

2756
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 3: The thing about player introductions is they introduce it, then

2757
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 3: they stand there for the anthem and everything goes down,

2758
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 3: you know, so like there's a there's no way to

2759
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:29,280
Speaker 3: keep that going.

2760
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 4: We're just not gonna We're not gonna win them over

2761
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:33,120
Speaker 4: on that, I don't think.

2762
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 10: So I'm introducing Friend's got a little potential m.

2763
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 4: VP that you don't care on Sunday Night football in

2764
01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:39,839
Speaker 4: the playoff.

2765
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:41,280
Speaker 10: I don't like fun in general.

2766
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 8: I like funny.

2767
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 10: You just don't like fun.

2768
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 5: Marty's in Tacoma, Washington. What's up, Marty, Mighty Marty?

2769
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 9: How's it going?

2770
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 2: Hey?

2771
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:58,000
Speaker 11: So, one thing I wanted to say about the Patriots.

2772
01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 11: They're saying that like we're we haven't our schedule isn't

2773
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 11: good enough.

2774
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 5: You know, we're not saying that.

2775
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:07,240
Speaker 11: No, No, the media is saying that we haven't played

2776
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 11: enough people, so therefore our run isn't is good?

2777
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 10: Right, right?

2778
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 11: Right? Look back in history and the two other instances

2779
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:18,240
Speaker 11: where a team won the Super Bowl that had a

2780
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 11: week schedule, in fact, just about as week as ours is.

2781
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 11: This year was the greatest show on turf. And when

2782
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 11: the Tampa Bay Bucks won the Super Bowl, Now nobody's

2783
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:31,520
Speaker 11: going back and saying, oh, the greatest show on turf

2784
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 11: wasn't really the greatest show on turf, right, I Mean,

2785
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 11: nobody says anything bad about them, but they have to

2786
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:38,440
Speaker 11: have a covey on. It's why we're winning.

2787
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 24: Right.

2788
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 11: That's one. There's one. The second thing I wanted to

2789
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:46,400
Speaker 11: say was that it's just a quick story about being

2790
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:51,600
Speaker 11: a Pats fan. I live in Washington State now, grew

2791
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 11: up in Massachusetts, and in nineteen seventy eight, I was

2792
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 11: at a church function was like a Protestant church. I'm

2793
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 11: a Catholic, but went to a prostant church because they

2794
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 11: had a raffle and Steve and I won the raffle

2795
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 11: and I was given an NFL football by Steve Grogan

2796
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:11,680
Speaker 11: in nineteen seventy eight. I've been a Pats fan for

2797
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 11: life since then. Okay, I got, I got, I'm serious.

2798
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 11: I look forward to this.

2799
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 10: Uh.

2800
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 11: I think they're going to make a good run. I

2801
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 11: think if if they can shure up the line, like

2802
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:28,520
Speaker 11: maybe throw an extra tight end on the left left

2803
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:33,120
Speaker 11: side to help Will and Wilson out or Campbell and Wilson.

2804
02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:37,400
Speaker 11: I think that, you know, may should have time to

2805
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:38,880
Speaker 11: throw the ball downfield.

2806
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:42,120
Speaker 10: All right, thanks, I don't.

2807
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:46,480
Speaker 4: I know we have to go, but good for that.

2808
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 6: After being the Chargers, I haven't heard a single person

2809
02:01:49,240 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 6: bring up the schedule now. And I'm not saying like

2810
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:56,080
Speaker 6: but that's I'm not saying as in like, yeah, we

2811
02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 6: shut them up.

2812
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:57,520
Speaker 4: I'm just saying like.

2813
02:01:57,560 --> 02:01:59,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, you are no like if you beat the Chargers

2814
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:01,280
Speaker 6: in the and like you make.

2815
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:04,120
Speaker 4: It at the championship game, I don't think to make.

2816
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:05,440
Speaker 5: It all the way if you would have had to

2817
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:06,440
Speaker 5: have beaten good team.

2818
02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know that's like that's my point.

2819
02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:12,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, just beat the teams and shut them up. That's it. Sure,

2820
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 5: all right, we'll be back.

2821
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 3: Tomorrow catch twenty two Tomorrow ten am ten am okay,

2822
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:20,320
Speaker 3: still going love it all right?

2823
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 5: See you then, Hey, this is Alex.

2824
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning into the show.

2825
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:27,640
Speaker 21: If you really want to help us, make sure you

2826
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 21: like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get

2827
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:31,280
Speaker 21: your podcasts.

2828
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:33,160
Speaker 4: Also, make sure you follow us.

2829
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 5: On the New England Patriots YouTube channel to see this

2830
02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 5: show and everything.

2831
02:02:36,280 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 8: Else we do here at the Patriots.

2832
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:38,520
Speaker 10: Thanks a lot,