WEBVTT - Friday Flight - Dumpster Diving, Housing Hellscape, & Tech Company Transgressions #600

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel, I'm Matt, and

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<v Speaker 1>today we're discussing dumpster diving, the housing hellscape, and tech

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<v Speaker 1>company transgressions. That's right, buddy, this is our Friday flight,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are going to talk about the best stories

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<v Speaker 1>that we came across this week before we get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>more thing. Mat before you get the Friday flight. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure how you feel about Christmas decorations. We got ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>We started going early, like November fift inside, at least

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<v Speaker 1>we did. We did too actually, just like I was

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<v Speaker 1>like ready for some some of that Christmas joy. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder why that is my wife in particular, was ready

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<v Speaker 1>for him. But one of so one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we couldn't do until recently though, because the live

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas trees had not started hitting like the home depots

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<v Speaker 1>and the lows yet, was we couldn't go get the

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<v Speaker 1>free trimmings like they have to get to cut off

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<v Speaker 1>the bottoms of the trees, and there's all these sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of little cut off the bottom three branches, threw saplings

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<v Speaker 1>hanging around half inch off the bottom that fresh cut.

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<v Speaker 1>But we did, like Emily was just like, okay, this Saturday, No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's gonna be something this Saturday, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>we've gotten Now this past weekend we went. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of free trimmings to put up across our mantle.

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<v Speaker 1>They make for some great decorations. So just a little

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<v Speaker 1>tipped everybody. It also makes your house smell nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for for all those folks out there who you get

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<v Speaker 1>the Christmas tree smell without having to pay that fresh

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Christmas tree price. Right, Yeah, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>buy the pine saw. I'll get the real stuff. Yeah, exactly. Which, So,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, did I tell you what we did

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<v Speaker 1>with our Christmas tree. I know we've talked about buying

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<v Speaker 1>artificial trees in the past, and there's like a break

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<v Speaker 1>break even point for us. It was like literally the

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<v Speaker 1>second by the second year, because we got it on

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<v Speaker 1>sane um. But we'd gotten I guess it was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a nine ft tree at our old house because we

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<v Speaker 1>had ten foot ceilings over there and our new place,

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<v Speaker 1>our ceilings are only eight feet tall, and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, dang it, like what are we gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>And well, you know what all we had to do

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<v Speaker 1>was not use the bottom section of the Christmas tree there,

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<v Speaker 1>so it comes in four sections in your brain. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we we took that nine foot tree down from

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<v Speaker 1>nine ft to seven ft. It fits perfectly in the

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<v Speaker 1>new place. So keep that in mind. If folks out

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<v Speaker 1>there happened to be in the weird circumstance like we were,

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<v Speaker 1>and your ceilings are getting lower you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily buy a brain new tree. Yeah all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Good Another good money saving tips Christmas tree tips? Right? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>why not? I mean this is the season, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>have a feeling a lot of decorating is going to

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<v Speaker 1>take places coming weekend. I read that December one is

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<v Speaker 1>the day that most uh neighbors say, Okay, it's fine

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<v Speaker 1>to put up your Christmas lights. Now we would have

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<v Speaker 1>done it sooner. We've been out of town for Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. But we're definitely putting up our

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor lights this weekend. So we're excited about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on, Mat, Let's get to the stories we

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<v Speaker 1>found interesting this week. It is our Friday flight flight

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<v Speaker 1>and speaking of curbing consumption, well begin of capitalism. Jeff Bezos,

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<v Speaker 1>the former CEO and and the guy who started Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>He recently told CNN that Americans should consider postponing the

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<v Speaker 1>purchase of bigger ticket items in their lives. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of surprised to hear him say that, because his company

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<v Speaker 1>thrives on people not postponing purchases, just going ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>pulling the trigger. Anyway, Maybe now that he's uh no

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<v Speaker 1>longer holds the title of CEO, he feels a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of freedom to more honest, be truthful, be honest

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<v Speaker 1>for folks. When being interviewed from his one of his

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<v Speaker 1>massive yachts, this is what he said, But it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out the folks didn't really listen to him. At least

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<v Speaker 1>this past Black Friday. A record nine billion dollars was

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<v Speaker 1>spent over that Thanksgiving holiday. But while there are certainly

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<v Speaker 1>deals to be had, as retailers have had too much inventory,

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<v Speaker 1>they've had to discount more. This is an instance where

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<v Speaker 1>this advice from the former CEO of Amazon actually makes

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<v Speaker 1>some sense, right, terrible advice. Yeah, with with an uncertain

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<v Speaker 1>economy ahead of us, we should all keep an eye

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<v Speaker 1>on our spending this holiday season. I'd rather see folks take, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a year end bonus to the bank, then

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<v Speaker 1>to the store, and to just be be prepared. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about on Wednesday, financial flexibility is important. The

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<v Speaker 1>more of it that you can retain, the more solid

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<v Speaker 1>financial footing you're going to be in. Absolutely, and oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>that does mean having cash in the bank, right Like,

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<v Speaker 1>So what's interesting is that one of the reasons all

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<v Speaker 1>these companies are putting on all these sales is because

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<v Speaker 1>they've got well, they've got a lot of inventory, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they've got too much surplus on hand. But

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<v Speaker 1>companies are also looking to share up their cash positions,

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<v Speaker 1>and so companies are looking ahead, they're forecasting, they're realizing that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, things may not be looking so great.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's crazy is that what companies are doing and

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<v Speaker 1>what we need to do as individuals, like that's basically

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<v Speaker 1>at odds with each other direct So they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>unload all these goods and we're as consumers standing there

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<v Speaker 1>looking at all these things go on sale, and it

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<v Speaker 1>can be tempting to want to pounce on all of

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<v Speaker 1>these deals, which is totally fine if there's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you were already going to purchase, But we definitely don't

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<v Speaker 1>want folks dipping into their their cash reserves, into their

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<v Speaker 1>emergency fund just to take advantage of a sale, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh my gosh, these are killer sales, and

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen sales like this before in my life. But

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to end up in a position where

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<v Speaker 1>three six months from now, it's like, Okay, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>all these goodies, but I don't have any cash and

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like I'm about to get fired from right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the position. Yeah, that we want to see

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<v Speaker 1>folks highly uncomfortable. Okay. So one of the ways though,

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<v Speaker 1>that you can spend less this holiday season is by

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<v Speaker 1>getting your stuff out of the dumpster. Does sound like

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<v Speaker 1>something you would recommend? Uh? Not only is this something

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm interested in, Joe, A lot of folks are

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<v Speaker 1>interested in this. Uh. It's a kind of the latest

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok trend. The Times documented the rise and popularity of

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<v Speaker 1>trash enthusiasts out there, and interestingly enough, some of these

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<v Speaker 1>folks are finding some some cool stuff out there, man.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's cool too, is that they are raising awareness

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that many companies they throw out this

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<v Speaker 1>old merchandise that is still perfectly good, that's perfectly useful, tired,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are like slashing it to make it unusable

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<v Speaker 1>with the coach. Like when one of like, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>somebody had called out one of the premier handbag companies

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<v Speaker 1>out there because they came across a bunch of beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>bags and they were yeah, they were sliced up with

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<v Speaker 1>the razor blade. And I think actually because of folks

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<v Speaker 1>who took to social media. Companies like Coach are no

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<v Speaker 1>longer doing that. They're they're basically have committed themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>a more responsible disposal of goods maybe that are either

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<v Speaker 1>out of season or maybe they were returned, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Uh, And so that's definitely a good outcome

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<v Speaker 1>from some of this awareness. But how do you get

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<v Speaker 1>the best stuff if you are interested in, uh doing

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<v Speaker 1>your own dumpster diving? Well, mass retailers like t J

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<v Speaker 1>Max and Home Goods they are apparently some of the

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<v Speaker 1>best places to find items that are still useful. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the question is like, should you actually start doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Should you start dumpster diving to save money and all

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<v Speaker 1>of this? First of all, I don't. It kind of

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<v Speaker 1>depends on like your ick factor, like what you're willing

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<v Speaker 1>to put up with. But a lot of this depends

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<v Speaker 1>to you and how much you value your time and

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<v Speaker 1>just what kind of stuff you're likely going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to snag. Obviously, don't go dumpster diving thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna find a Apple laptop or something like that

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<v Speaker 1>that's brand new in the box. That's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are certainly some some goodies out there to

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<v Speaker 1>be found. Yeah, alright, My only dumpster diving experience comes

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<v Speaker 1>from back in the day, my buddy Travis. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a former airline called air Tran and they ran this

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<v Speaker 1>promotion at Wendy's where if you collected I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was thirty two cups you got a free one way

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<v Speaker 1>trip and sixty four you got a free round trip.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if there was a limit or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but I distinctly remember Travis jumping into a dumpster behind

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<v Speaker 1>the Wendy's in order to get these cups, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't blame him, man. I think that's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where that yeah, to be able to get a free,

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<v Speaker 1>great deal, free flight just by getting some cups and

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee there's like stacks of them in the trash. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's why air Trend didn't stick around. They were based

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<v Speaker 1>here in Atlanta, where there were I remember flying with

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<v Speaker 1>them back in the day, back like oh five in

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<v Speaker 1>that period of time, their free flights to fast food lovers.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe yeah, maybe so So Okay, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few times I remember doing some serious dumpster diving in college,

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<v Speaker 1>we would we would go to the dorms and students

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<v Speaker 1>who were moving out of the dorms. They had to

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<v Speaker 1>be moved out by a certain date, right, they had

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<v Speaker 1>to be completely moved out. And so these I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these kids would just take their lofts. These are built

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<v Speaker 1>loss made a two by fours and whatnot, but they

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<v Speaker 1>would just take them all. I mean, there's so much timber,

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<v Speaker 1>so much lumber. Uh, not just in the dumpster, but

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<v Speaker 1>just completely surrounding it. And did we would just go

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<v Speaker 1>over there, load those things up in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>a friend's pickup shut and then take them back to

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<v Speaker 1>a friend's apartment and we would resell some of those

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<v Speaker 1>loss back to students the follow The following billion also

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<v Speaker 1>set one aside for myself because me and some friends

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<v Speaker 1>were moving into an apartment where we were sharing bedrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, yeah, I slept in the loft that I

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<v Speaker 1>found next to a dumpster after my freshman year in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like, and you're worth the time and effort for

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<v Speaker 1>being trash and then you're making money on the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you found. I think that's that's smart. Well, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just goes to show that dumpster diving sounds pretty icky,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of the time it is, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>ways at times to make it worth your while. I

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<v Speaker 1>just like how it's we're they're destigmatizing it a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit for sure. Like I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks who might feel that, oh, I would never do that,

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<v Speaker 1>or even just seeing a curb alert. But even by

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<v Speaker 1>folks doing something like this, now somebody else who read

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<v Speaker 1>the story might think, well, there's some folks out there

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<v Speaker 1>who are dumpster diving. I should be willing to at

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<v Speaker 1>least take a look at some of these items on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the curb, get over at least a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of your tramaphobus exactly, and to save money.

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, let's talk about something else. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about ad results. We just talked about Jeff Bezo a

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<v Speaker 1>second ago. Let's talk about some issues that the company

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<v Speaker 1>he started is having. And uh, Amazon, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>has an ad problem that is seemingly out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>The Washington Post had a thorough article showing just how

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<v Speaker 1>many ads you're getting when you do a typical Amazon search.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has no editorial control over this stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to see that Washington Post writers are still

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<v Speaker 1>holding Amazon's feet to the fire. And what this author

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<v Speaker 1>found was that on the first five screens of a

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<v Speaker 1>search result, you'll see more than fifty of the space

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to paid results. The sponsored content you have to

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<v Speaker 1>comb through basically at the top of the Amazon search

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<v Speaker 1>results is astounding, and it's not always easy to decipher

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<v Speaker 1>and add from an organic search result. Like they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting trickier and trickier, for sure, Like everybody knows the

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<v Speaker 1>ones where it's like written in smaller type and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like italics, it's like sponsored content or whatever, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>got the little information dought or whatever. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>not realize how how they're just embedding some of the

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<v Speaker 1>some of the more of the the paid or recommended

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<v Speaker 1>results further down as well, like it's in a different format.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes Amazon is like promoting a specific brand that

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<v Speaker 1>pays them a lot of money, right, so they're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>cool tide, you get the top spot when somebody googles

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<v Speaker 1>huntry detergent because you pay us a certain amount of

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of dollars a month. Other times they're

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<v Speaker 1>promoting their own brands, like the Amazon Basics or Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>specific brands that they own, but it's getting more and

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<v Speaker 1>more difficult to find the top results based on search relevancy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what Amazon kind of built their business around.

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<v Speaker 1>So who just say this. You know, Amazon is not

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<v Speaker 1>the devil or anything like that, but keep keep that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind next time you're searching for things on the

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon site. It might be best to do your research elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you do end up buying on Amazon in

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<v Speaker 1>the end. I just like I think sometimes we think

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<v Speaker 1>of Amazon is a good search engine for finding the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we want. But when you realize that more

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<v Speaker 1>than fifty of the searches for a lot of searches

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<v Speaker 1>are turning up a bunch of ads, Like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to look elsewhere. It seems like Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>is a little less reliable when it comes to like

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<v Speaker 1>finding a new product or find the brand of a

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<v Speaker 1>product that you should be purchasing, just because of like

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<v Speaker 1>how spammy it's gotten. Yeah. I like the recommendation to

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<v Speaker 1>to do your research elsewhere. Yeah, search whatever it is

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<v Speaker 1>that you're looking to buy and search like wirecutter, or

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<v Speaker 1>head over to consumer reports, but look Reddit, even like

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<v Speaker 1>there's some reviews on Reddit. Those are better places to

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<v Speaker 1>look as opposed to wait, that's going straight to the

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon app on your phone. Four and a half stars,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's got three reviews, and but it's sponsored and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. Exactly. Yeah, Okay, so while we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about shopping, let's talk again about why buy Now, Pay

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<v Speaker 1>Later is still awful. It turns out that buyers paid

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<v Speaker 1>via by Now Pay Later quite a bit over a

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday. It actually jumped by sixty eight percent, according

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<v Speaker 1>to market Watch, which is a significant increase. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we often talk about mindful spending, and so this is

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<v Speaker 1>just another reminder to continue being careful this holiday season

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to racking up debts, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want you to do. Uh, As you are

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<v Speaker 1>looking to give gifts to those who you love and

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<v Speaker 1>care about, don't buy stuff that you can't afford on

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<v Speaker 1>on on a credit card or or via buy now,

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<v Speaker 1>Pay Later. When you're doing that, you're just kicking the

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<v Speaker 1>can down the road. You're creating this debt obligation that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be tough to to stomach come January or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, June July of next year. That yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's only the beginning of December as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And so keep in mind you still have time to

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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation with friends and relatives about gift giving expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>This doesn't necessarily have to be a trend that continues

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<v Speaker 1>where every year everybody always is like slowly over time

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<v Speaker 1>increasing that maximum spend amount. But having that conversation is

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<v Speaker 1>just a great way to keep that gift giving from

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<v Speaker 1>getting out of control. And I think you can be

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<v Speaker 1>honest Matt that, hey, guess what it's things are type

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<v Speaker 1>financially for me right now, I don't think I can

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<v Speaker 1>participate in at least this in this part of the

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<v Speaker 1>gift giving that our family traditionally does. And because I

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<v Speaker 1>think people will understand, they would rather so you be

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<v Speaker 1>financially healthy than uh than have you racking up debt

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<v Speaker 1>to buy gifts for them like that. That's not your

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<v Speaker 1>loving family does not want that for you, I guarantee it.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's talk about the job market for just a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they do want that for you, maybe they don't

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<v Speaker 1>love you. You need a new family. It's time to

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<v Speaker 1>find a new family this Christmas. But let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the job market, because whether you're looking to find another

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<v Speaker 1>job or you just want some part time holiday work.

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<v Speaker 1>Some employers are offering bonuses still for for joining their

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<v Speaker 1>team right now, like the labor market, matt still remains

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<v Speaker 1>fairly hot. Like we haven't seen it cool off as

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<v Speaker 1>much as it looked like it would at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>And Amazon it might not be as good for users

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<v Speaker 1>because of the abundance of ads, but they are offering

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<v Speaker 1>a minimum starting salary of eighteen dollars an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>up to a three thousand dollars sign on bonus for

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<v Speaker 1>folks who are applying for their their holiday work. We say,

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<v Speaker 1>read the fine print and make sure you know how

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<v Speaker 1>long you've got to stick around, and make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>working in an Amazon warehouse is something you can stomach. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if people still left it was the

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<v Speaker 1>truck driver's right that to pee in bottles, But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, I've not heard great things about the

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<v Speaker 1>working conditions there, But I don't know. A hefty bonus

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<v Speaker 1>might just push you in that direct action, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might find other employers out there willing to offer

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<v Speaker 1>better benefits or meaningful sign up bonuses because there's just

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<v Speaker 1>more competition out there. There aren't enough workers to fill

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<v Speaker 1>the jobs. That's right, and Of course, most of those

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<v Speaker 1>jobs don't require a degree, and the journal had an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting article about the importance, or actually the lack thereof,

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<v Speaker 1>of a college education. This past week, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>major companies out there are lowering the bar when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to degree requirements for certain positions for certain jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Companies like Delta, Google, and IBM, they are requiring a

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<v Speaker 1>college degree for more positions that they need filled. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond private companies as well. Some states like Maryland,

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<v Speaker 1>actually they have stopped requiring degrees for more jobs that

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<v Speaker 1>they have available as well. There's a good quote this.

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<v Speaker 1>A VP over at Walmart was quoted as saying, the

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<v Speaker 1>company's goal is to shift the focus from the way

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<v Speaker 1>someone got their skills, which is the degree, to what

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<v Speaker 1>skills they do have. Is awesome, man. I love this

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<v Speaker 1>because we talked about this a decent bit here on

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<v Speaker 1>the show College. It still makes sense for a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of young folks out there, but it is not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily a slam dunk decision because the cost and the

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<v Speaker 1>value proposition are key to determining your choice. Are They're

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<v Speaker 1>so important when it comes to deciding if college is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be right for an individual we've actually were

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<v Speaker 1>we've been hiring a few folks lately to to do

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<v Speaker 1>some work for us on the back end here on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. And honestly, I don't even know if they

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<v Speaker 1>have a college degree or not. We didn't ask, but

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't even ask. We we don't care. We've cared

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<v Speaker 1>about the skills they've got. This just like yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully this is a trend that continues because we

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<v Speaker 1>like the direction this is going. We want folks. There's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly something to be said when it comes to being

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<v Speaker 1>well educated right for the sake of one's own growth.

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<v Speaker 1>But the requirement, the mandatory nature of having to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a higher education uh and potentially pay just out

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<v Speaker 1>the nose for a degree that they're not excited about

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<v Speaker 1>getting just to be able to get some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>entry level job is not something that that we're excited

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of the jobs that we're talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>That these companies and that these states are now saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need a college degree for our our positions

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<v Speaker 1>that shouldn't have required a degree in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's good to see them walking that back

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, listen, part of it is the hot labor

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<v Speaker 1>market that we're talking about, Matt, that they're still they

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<v Speaker 1>want to open up to a broader spectrum of potential

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<v Speaker 1>employees because it's just hard to find the right people.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you can listen to the requirements and

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<v Speaker 1>still find the person that you need, but just to

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<v Speaker 1>open it up to a broader range of applicants, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it makes a lot of sense. But you we've

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<v Speaker 1>got several other stories that we're gonna get to during

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<v Speaker 1>our Friday flight today, including we're gonna we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the housing health scape. We've got a few stories

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about there and more right after this. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we are back. Let's keep this Friday flight going, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>Let get to the ludicrous headline of the week. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just seems like today's episode there's a theme for me,

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<v Speaker 1>which is bashing all the major tech platforms. And sorry

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<v Speaker 1>in advance all you billionaire owners of these companies, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a couple more to task. We've already kind

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<v Speaker 1>of given Amazon some flak. We're gonna give Google some

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<v Speaker 1>here in a second. We could even throw Apple into

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<v Speaker 1>the mix as way. Maybe we will. Do they care

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<v Speaker 1>about free speech or not? I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Elon must does make a point though on

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty percent vig they take from it's it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a problem. But even though in court

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<v Speaker 1>it's it was found out that that's an okay practice

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<v Speaker 1>for Apple to participate in. But I digress. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>not go there. Let's let's move on and let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>smack Facebook around for a second. Because listener Becca, she

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<v Speaker 1>shared an article from pro Publica in the Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 1>The title reads, tax filing websites have been sending users

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<v Speaker 1>financial information to Facebook and that struck me as something

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<v Speaker 1>that was potentially egregious or wrong. And it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that the big players in the tax ailing business H

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<v Speaker 1>and R, Block, tax Act, and tax Layer have been

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<v Speaker 1>sending sensitive personal data to Facebook about their customers, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's messed up. That info often included the income of

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that customer, their refund amount, their filing status, sometimes phone numbers,

0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and more. And so that information was being sent over

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 1>even if you don't have an account with Facebook, which

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing They're giving Facebook this information even though you

0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.480
<v Speaker 1>don't have a relationship with Facebook. But Facebook like, well'

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.679
<v Speaker 1>take that data sure, and so this info then, of

0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.760
<v Speaker 1>course allows Facebook to better target AD two users. And

0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:35.800
<v Speaker 1>it looks like a lot of these companies they're stopping

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.960
<v Speaker 1>this practice based on this reporting. Not all of them,

0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 1>though I don't think have have said that they are.

0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:44.040
<v Speaker 1>But this is a violation of consumer privacy and it

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 1>never should have happened in the first place. Matt reading that,

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:48.199
<v Speaker 1>I was like, how how does this stuff happen? How

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 1>did he messed up? How do people think this is okay?

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>It's not It's not okay? Uh? And meta they were

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<v Speaker 1>Actually they were fined tune or seventy five million dollars

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.240
<v Speaker 1>by the EU for violating some privacy laws thanks to

0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 1>a data that made a lot of personal user data public.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is just another reason to freeze your credit, folks.

0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:07.679
<v Speaker 1>We've got an article up on the site that we

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 1>can link to that shows you how easy it is.

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.400
<v Speaker 1>It does not take very long at all. And we

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>we also want you to consider carefully which companies you

0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.120
<v Speaker 1>choose to do business with. And so to round things out,

0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to throw one more tech company under the bus, Google

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 1>they agreed to a settlement with forty states over the

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 1>collection of user location data that they agreed to stop collecting,

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.639
<v Speaker 1>and so this has kept collecting it even though users

0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.439
<v Speaker 1>had collicked no, we don't want you to collect this

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 1>date on us, and they were like, well, we'll sneakily

0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.159
<v Speaker 1>just do it behind the scenes. Yeah, And honestly, like I,

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it'd be a bad thing to see

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 1>these fines get even more severe to help keep the

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:44.720
<v Speaker 1>tech companies accountable, to keep them in check. Because you

0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.240
<v Speaker 1>know these these numbers, they sound pretty high, right, we

0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>just mentioned that two seventy five million dollar fine against Facebook.

0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:52.959
<v Speaker 1>Well here's the thing, that's actually less money than they

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>make in a single day. So like, these truly aren't large,

0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.960
<v Speaker 1>massive fines. It kind of makes me get back to

0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 1>like a flick on the wrist and like Kim Kardashian

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>when she got fined for not disclosing her crypto holdings

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, like these amounts. Like, yes, to us normal people,

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a ton of money, But to the

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:14.199
<v Speaker 1>uber elites, celebrities out there, and definitely to these massive

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 1>tech companies, it is nothing. Yes, that is true, and

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, the fines s need to go up in

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>order to incentivize good behavior and punish bad behavior. So

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:26.679
<v Speaker 1>that we consumers that we are stuff is another're floating

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>around our phone numbers and our refund amounts, and that

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 1>we're not being sold every which way right and left

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to whatever to the highest bidder. Um. But let's talk

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.439
<v Speaker 1>about another company, Matt doing something that you know borders

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>on ludicrous. This isn't a tech company, but Mercedes announced

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.240
<v Speaker 1>this week that if you if you drive a new

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 1>Mercedes e V electric vehicle, you're gonna have to pay

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>an extra a year for a subscription if you want

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>to be able to drive it fast. And this is

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>completely insane, honestly. Yeah, this also could have been a

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>ludicrous headline Evil week for sure. Yea. The Drive reports

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.719
<v Speaker 1>that in order to enjoy the quicker acceleration that these

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>cars are capable of, you're gonna have to fork over

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>big bucks luxury car companies they've been dipping their toes

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>into the subscription space already right, hoping to make recurring

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>revenue off their customers. Like BMW Matt, We've talked about

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:22.640
<v Speaker 1>them charging a monthly fee for heated seats, for access

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to the hardware that's already installed in your car. Yeah,

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to pay, You don't have to pay

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>on a monthly basis for that. One of the same

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:30.959
<v Speaker 1>thing is true of Mercedes. If you want to be

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 1>able to, if you want your car to accelerate more quickly,

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 1>paying them twelve bucks a year to do so sounds ridiculous.

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>We think it sucks because you're forking out a ton

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.360
<v Speaker 1>of money already for a nice car, for a luxury

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 1>car in this case, And to me, this would be

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 1>a deal killer for sure, Like there's just on the

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.120
<v Speaker 1>principle of the thing, and so I don't know. Fortunately

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>for us, I guess our ancient minivans don't have a

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 1>paywall in order to achieve max feed of eight. So

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>on a on a related note, did we talk about

0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>me renting a Ford Explore a couple weeks ago? So

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that was took a trip um out of town. I

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>was actually up in Michigan and it was freezing up there,

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and the car or it was the Ford Explore that

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 1>we rented. It was a newer Ford Explorer and it

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>came with heated steering wheels. And it's just one of

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>those things where you see these nice, nicer features being

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 1>offered by cars that aren't even necessarily luxury, and you think,

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>who the heck needs that? But I will say if

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>we lived in a cold, colder climate, I would totally

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>be splurging for the heated steering wheel. I've never experienced

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>something like that before, but I was like, oh, this

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>is this is real nice. When I had the Nissan

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Leaf running, the actual heater would deteriorate the battery so quickly. Yeah,

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>but it had heated season hearing, heated steering wheels, so

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that you had that, I would just put on those

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 1>two and it would help so much. We don't need

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>to warm the rest of the family, just just he

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 1>has the driver. All the seats were actually heated, even

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the rear seats, so oh no way, Yeah, that's crazy.

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>It was a nice little park. That's fancy because I

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 1>just think they know. Yeah, that's another that is one

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>of the problems with evs. When you turn on the

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>air conditioning or the heater to control zapps the battery,

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>it does in a big way. But yeah, hopefully Mercedes

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>will rethink their devious ways and not chargiculous to access

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the full abilities of the car. I kind of get it.

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 1>With the Tesla autonomous driving feature, I feel like that's

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>something a little bit different but this is actual hardware

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that we're oftentimes talking about here. That's super ridiculous. Yeah

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>for sure. All right, let's talk about housing for a second,

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:26.919
<v Speaker 1>the housing hellscape, and maybe just some of the latest

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>on when it comes to home prizes and the housing

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.679
<v Speaker 1>market in general, because there have been actually a few

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>headlines and I thought were super intense this week. Axios

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>reported that a collapse they use that word in home

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 1>prices is coming down the pike. The Atlantic had a

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>piece telling folks that they should wait to buy a home.

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>They're basically, nah, you shouldn't buy home right now. It's

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 1>not a good idea. And to me, those are like

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>decently provocative assertions that it collapses coming, that people should

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>completely avoid buying housing. So what's the truth when it

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>comes to the near term future of the housing market.

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>It's tough to say, right, But one of the items

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that was touted as a reason to hold off on

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>buying a home in that Atlantic piece that I mentioned

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>is a lack of inventory that's on the market. There

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>aren't many homes available for sale, and so that's keeping

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>prices up. But it's interesting to me that that was

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 1>mentioned as one of the reasons because a lack of

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>home supply in general is one of the reasons that

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 1>you and I think that there's unlikely to be a

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 1>home price collapse, right, that's being predicted, And how low

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.159
<v Speaker 1>is this supply, Well, there are different estimates on that

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>front from different organizations, but we we could truly stand

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to see millions more homes and apartments being built across

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the country. The truth is building has not kept up

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 1>with growth, and this supply shortage it can't be fixed overnight.

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>So I guess when I see headlines and predictions of collapse,

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>it seems to fly in the face of other information

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>that we have, which might suggest actually the opposite, right

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that home prices aren't going to collapse, but might actually

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>remain steadier than a lot of folks think. Yeah, man,

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that supply shortage. That is a major reason that we

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>find it difficult to foresee home prices cratering in a

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 1>major way, especially if interest rate hikes calmed down. In

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>mortgage rad's chill out just a little bit. That's a

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>huge part of the reason. By the way, we're seeing

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>like a freeze basically for buyers and sellers. Is morge

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>he wants to buy a new home or move out

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of a home where they have a low rate locked in,

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.479
<v Speaker 1>although a correction is still definitely possible, and like, honestly, man,

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just a weird time to be a home buyer

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>right um. The future is really uncertain right now again,

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean the rapid rise in interest rates basically doubling

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>in the past eight months, that has just shocked the

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>system as the overall cost of buying a home have skyrocketed,

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and so we can't predict the future. But the keys

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to successfully buying a home in this market are are

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>having your own personal finances in solid shape and that's

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>something that you have control over, and having a longer

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>timeline when it comes to owning that home in order

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to make up for a potential housing market slump. Typically,

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I think like we would always say that you want

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to hang onto your home for probably about five years

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>in order to make sure that you are able to

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>write out any fluctuations in the market to be able

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to recoup the costs associated with purchasing and selling a home.

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>But given where things are now like, we're looking at

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>even closer to seven years in order to play it

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>on the safe side, basically in order to write out

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>any potential dips in the market as well as those

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>transaction costs. A decade would be even better, right, But

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of folks, Yeah, that five years just

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>isn't good enough anymore. Not when not when we could

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>see a correction, right even though the collapse, I think

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>it's oversold. I don't see that coming. Um, But you

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>never know. You also never know because there are so

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 1>many factors that combine to make up the housing market.

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>It's really it's just really hard to predict. Um. But yeah,

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>speaking of homes now, we talked about he locks for

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>just a second on Wednesday's episode Home Equity Lines of

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Credit when we talked about the benefits of being financially flexible.

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>And this might sound weird, but we would say that

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>having a helock is great, but using it isn't, which

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I know is just kind of a goofy thing to say.

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>But the stats show that more folks are opening up

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>lines of credit against their home right now, and more

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>folks are also tapping those helocks that they have, according

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to recent stats from Adam Data Solutions. And you know,

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>with the average helock rate being almost eight percent at

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>this point, is rates have picked up quite a bit,

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>borrowing against your home's equity becomes even more precarious, so

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>we would say be careful before you open a helock

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and start borrowing from it. The biggest downside of having

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>helock and pulling money out is that if you aren't

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>able to pay back that money, you're putting your home

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>at risk. Right Unlike a credit card, which is unsecured debt,

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>this helock is secured debt, and it could cost you

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>your house. You could cost you your home if you

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>have trouble making payments over an extended period of time.

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>But having access to a helock, we would say provides

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>additional financial backstop in addition to your emergency fund, which

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>is again something we talked about recently, But be prudent

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>in how you use it. I know it's weird to

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>tell people, yeah, you should get one of these, but

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want ever use it. And it's it's kind of

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>like having credit available to you, right, Like like you

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>want to have large lines of money, like like with

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a credit card available to you, but it doesn't it

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean you want to tick up more than that

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>thirty percent utilization rest right, Like you want to have

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that available to you, but don't necessarily want to use it,

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>and you don't want to use it if you can't

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>pay it off on time and in full every month either.

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, And it makes sense that more folks are

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>doing this, right as we've seen home equity shoot through

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the roof over the past to three years. There's folks

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're realizing that they're sitting on a lot of

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>cash that's tied up into their home. And so I

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>get the temptation, I get the desire to do this,

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and it can provide a nice backstop, but we just

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want folks treating their homes like a t m

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>S where they're just drawing down that cash, whether they're

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>pulling that money out. We want you, like Joel said,

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>be prudent, but we wanted to do remind folks as well,

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