1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecopree and now podcast 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: Colin Cowards Podcast Network back again Thursday night, watching this 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: little NBA playoffs here Kawhi Leonard just an absolute freak 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: athlete and beads a beast that there are some legitimate, 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: legitimate talents on the floor of this Raptor Sixers game. 6 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: But wanted to hit some things. I'm gonna do a 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: big Middlecoff mail bag, like like I do every week, 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: but this is gonna be extra big because there's not 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: that much going on at John middlecop is my Instagram handle. 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Come follow me, Come fly up in those d m 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: s are wide open, slide up in them. Ask a 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: question and then I'll answer it on this podcast. Do 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: it twice a week Tuesday, Friday, quote them on Monday 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: and Thursday. So if you get in before those dates, 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I'll get at you. I'll answer your question, give my 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: thoughts on and it's pretty organic. I don't read them before. 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: I just read them and then I just give you 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: a real time answer into this uh my Apple MacBook 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: pro here and then I pressed record and then I 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: send it off. But a couple of things I want 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: to touch on before we dive into that was Dave Gettelman, 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: who was kind of getting universally destroyed and beat up 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: over his draft and I think I know why. Uh. 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: And then ESPN chose their Monday Night crew, and I 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: think they made a huge mistake, and they kind of 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: doubled down on the mistake they made last year. And 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't really make much sense, but start with Dave Gettlman. 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: I got a couple of texts from scouts. So I 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: got one text from a scout I think I like 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday of this week, and he just simply asked, like, 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: why do you think Gettleman is gonna get is getting 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: so beat up over this Daniel Jones pick? And his 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: question was simply predicated from the fact that this guy 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: kind of like Daniel Jones. I don't think he liked 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: him top ten overall, but he thought he was, like, 36 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, a legitimate first round draft pick. And then 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: I text a couple other just random scouts, and I 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: just said, what do you think a day Jones. Both 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: of them replied, well, I like him more than Dwayne Haskins. 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: And here's the thing with Dave Gentleman. If you're a 41 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: football fan and you follow the league. You kind of 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: know who this guy is, and he's kind of the 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: laughing stock of the NFL right now. Of all the 44 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: things going on in the NFL, Heat, to me is 45 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: the number one laughing stock. And when I say laughing stock, 46 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: I just mean the guy or the team or the 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: franchise that people just go, I don't think this guy 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: is any clue what's going on. And I think that's 49 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: somewhat fair to think because his actions of supporting Eli, 50 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: of signing O'Dell and then trading O'Dell, and then with 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: the O'Dell pick, drafting a defensive note, you know, a 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: nose tackle in a passing league, and then taking this 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: quarterback that I think most of us in the media 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: and fans, we all watch college football and we have 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: a decent idea. Like we were talking about Drew lock 56 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: during the season. It was pretty clear a month in 57 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray he was gonna be an NFL quarterback. I'm 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: trying to think of the other quarterbacks that went off 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: the Finlay kid from NC State, like most of the 60 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: definitely last year. Just look at Baker Lamar, Josh Allen, 61 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Josh Rose, and we were talking they were 62 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: all on the tip of our tongue. It's hard to sneak, 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, just to be like, we're not really even 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: talking about you. To a top ten pick that doesn't 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: typically happen with quarterbacks. That happens with other players, but 66 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: it does not happen with quarterbacks. And I basically responded 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: to my buddy the scout, I said, I think Daniel 68 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Jones's picks getting a story strictly because of Dave Gentleman. 69 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: He kind of listen, I'm not that political, like most people, 70 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: fall somewhere in the middle. I don't watch political shows. 71 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: They're not fun. They just make you angry, regardless of 72 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: what you think. But you he's not really arguable that 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: this president is pretty polarizing, and people either like them 74 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: or they hate him, or like most people, they don't 75 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: even think that much about him. But the people that 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: hate him legitimately hate him. And if I told you 77 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump cured cancer, you would be like, well, 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: he didn't cure Alzheimer's. Well, he hasn't fixed the h 79 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: he hasn't wiped out the common flu like he would. 80 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: You would have responses. You would never give him credit 81 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: for anything if you hate him. And I think most 82 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: NFL fans kind of treat Dave Getleman like that nothing 83 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: he can do will gain anyone's respect unless he makes 84 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs next year. And it's pretty safe to say 85 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: that he's not gonna make the playoffs. But I texted 86 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: multiple people and they all pretty consistently came back to 87 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: me when I asked, would you rather have Daniel Jones 88 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: or Dwayne Haskins, and they all said Daniel Jones. I 89 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: think Daniel Jones was much more liked in NFL circles 90 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: than he was on the outside. So this pick, if 91 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: it had been made by Andy Reid, by Howie Roseman, 92 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, by Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVeigh, you would 93 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: have been like, oh, Daniel Jones really got something going 94 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: for him. But Dave Getlman could have drafted Kyler Murray 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: and be like, I don't think it's gonna work. There's 96 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: nothing he can do that's right now. In fairness, he's 97 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: done this to himself. He's very cocky, he's very arrogant. 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: He talks about all these super bowls he ones, but 99 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: no one gives you that much credit about winning super 100 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: bowls when you're just a scout. It's not like you 101 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: were the GM or the head coach, you know, or 102 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: even like a coordinator or even like the assistant GM. 103 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: You were like a personnel guy. You were an area scout. 104 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: You were a pro scout like Dave no One. Most 105 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: fans don't even know what you were doing. So when 106 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: you lift off, I've won multiple Super Bowls. I won 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: someone with John Elway, i won something with Eli Manning, 108 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: Like no one knows that. They just look at you 109 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: like the general manager. You were the guy that just 110 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: let Josh Norman walk. You were the guy that just 111 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: randomly got fired because you couldn't get along with people. 112 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: You were the guy that traded Odell Beckham for a 113 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: terrible package. There's no way around it. You got pick seventeen, 114 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: a fringe starting safety in a late third round pick, 115 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: Like that's just not very good. So at the end 116 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: of the day, people aren't gonna give you the benefit 117 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: doubt when you quote unquote overdraft the quarterback. And I 118 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: see some people on Twitter going, you know, it's unfair 119 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones to take all this crap. He didn't 120 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: deserve it, he didn't draft himself. And I'd say, yeah, 121 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: that's true though. Every year and when you're drafted in 122 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: the top ten in the NFL. After the new CBA 123 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: changed in two thousand eleven, your contracts guaranteed for four years. 124 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: For four years. Now, the fifth year is an option, 125 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: and it's a highly you know, compensated option. But those 126 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: first four years, if you're draft in the first round, 127 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: are fully guaranteed. That's why when you see all around 128 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: the league all these fifth year options not getting picked up, 129 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: shows those guys a royal bus like that. That's a 130 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: major problem. Like Treadwell Lawson, Garrett Docks and Jay Conklin, 131 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: Robert and dc G. I can't even say his name, 132 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: the Arizona defensive lineman, you know who I'm talking about. 133 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: What'll miss say it one more time? Nadenka. I mean, 134 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: I legitimately just can't say it. I've tried. I tried 135 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: to say it off here. I I can't say it. 136 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: But that's those are swings and missus again. I'm not 137 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: even trying to be funny. I legitimately can't say the 138 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: defensive lineman Robert, you know his last name from Arizona. 139 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: Not a good player, but that that's a problem. So 140 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: you are stuck with Daniel Jones at minimum four years. 141 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: But here's the other thing. Whenever you draft a quarterback 142 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: and you miss, it sets him back. I also think 143 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: he's made some acid nine comments he could sit for 144 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: three years, like Dave going into your fourth year, you 145 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: have to pick up his fifth year option or not 146 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: that this is not two thousand five. The game's changed. 147 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: He's not sitting for three years. He has to play 148 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: next year at and it's not like he's going into 149 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: a situation. They keep saying this Kansas City model or 150 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: this Green Bay model. Aaron Rodgers sat behind Brett Forth, 151 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes sat behind Alex Smith, and the year he 152 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: sat behind Alex Smith, I think they were a top 153 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: five offense. You're sitting behind Eli Manning who was really 154 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: struggling and he can't move in Their offensive lines not 155 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: very good. So, like I think, at the end of 156 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: the day, the reason the Giants are just getting eviscerated, 157 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: it's strictly because of the GM. Like Pat Schrummer's not 158 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: really say anything dumb, The players aren't really say anything dumb. 159 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: It's all Dave Gentleman, who they should stop letting talk 160 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: to the media because he's kind of making a fool 161 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: out of himself being this, it's hard to be super 162 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: cocky when, even if you have accomplished things, if no 163 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: one gives you credit or even knows about your accomplishments, 164 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,119 Speaker 1: no one cares. Like Belichick can say he's won six 165 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: championships with New England, he can say he's won eight 166 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: rings because those two other rings that he won. Being 167 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: Parcels defensive coordinator, everyone acknowledges he played a big role 168 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: help Parcels. Credits him with designing the game plans to 169 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: beat Bill Walsh, to get him to those Super Bowls, 170 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: So like, yeah, he gets some credit for that. I'm sorry, 171 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman, no one's giving you credit as a pro 172 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: scout on some of those Denver Bronco teams that won 173 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: championships in the late nineties because no one knows what 174 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: you did. So you can add hockey and arrogant, and 175 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: you should be. Anyone in a high level position should 176 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: be confident of their abilities. But he's setting himself up 177 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: to get roasted by his maneuvers, by his moves. So 178 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: even if this guy is a good player, because everyone 179 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: hates Dave Gentleman, they're just gonna naturally kind of hate 180 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. So even if Daniel Jones shows any sign 181 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: of lights, Like I remember five or six years ago, 182 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: Derrek car his rookie year. They went three and thirteen, 183 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: but it was clear he showed some signs like Okay, 184 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: they got something here. Last year, Sam Donald's rookie year 185 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: was kind of hit or miss, but he showed some things. 186 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: Josh Allen pretty hit or missed, but he showed some things. 187 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: Even if to me Daniel Jones has one of those 188 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: years where he shows some things, I think most people 189 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: are just gonna be like he sucks because he's gonna 190 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: be viewed as Gettleman's guy. I think Gettleman's gonna be 191 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: this guy's biggest downfall, even if he's just solid kind 192 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: of early on his first couple of years, because everyone's 193 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: gonna hate him. Think about the other quarterbacks kind of 194 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: been the opposite, Like last year with Baker Mayfield, like 195 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: Dorsu was pound on the table, like I believe in 196 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: this guy. People just believed him, and he was like, 197 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this, my homes guy is gonna be 198 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: a good player. People believed him. Kyle Shanahan was like 199 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: if we think we gotta steal in Jimmy Garoppolo before 200 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: he was saw on play and then he sat people 201 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: believed him, and then he played those last you know, 202 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: five games like this guy is sweet. Everyone just wants 203 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: to hate this guy, and again, to me, it's not 204 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Daniel Jones. Simply has to 205 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: do with Dave Getleman. So no matter what he does, 206 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: no matter what he says, people are out to hate 207 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: the guy. And I think he's doing himself a disservice 208 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: by constantly kind of defending it and fighting it that 209 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: that's not the way to approach it when no one 210 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: trusts you, especially the fan base. And in fairness of 211 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: the fan base, why should they trust him. He just 212 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: traded the best player on their team for not that 213 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: much and he replaced him with a defensive tackle in 214 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: a passing league, and they drafted a guy that no 215 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: one was talking about, the top ten pick, even if 216 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: he might have been a top ten sleeper, which I'm 217 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: not saying he is. I don't like, you know, a 218 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: week arm quarterbacks. But maybe Dave Gettleman's actually a genius. 219 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: But I don't think the fans are even gonna give 220 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: him the you know, the room to find out and 221 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: he only has himself to blame. Let's get into Monday 222 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Night Football and ESPN announced I'm recording this Thursday, so 223 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: it would have been yesterday that they're basically raw on 224 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: it back and they're just substituting Jason went and leaving 225 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: the doubt for the Dallas Cowboys, which was again my 226 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: theory is pretty simple. They were gonna fire him. Now 227 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: you could argue maybe they weren't because they couldn't get 228 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: Aiden Manning, but I just don't think they could roll 229 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: them back. And they've basically kept testa tour, kept Lisa's alters, 230 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: and they're just gonna have Booger go from the sideline 231 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: Booger Mobile to the booth and listen to them. Going 232 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: after Peyton Manning would be like me asking Cindy Crawford 233 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: out on a date. Now, she's a married woman, but 234 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: I still think she's the goat when it comes to women. 235 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: But you get my drift. It's just you were shooting 236 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: for the stars, regardless of factoring in money, like they 237 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: offered Peyton Manning ten million dollars a year. Yeah, Peyton 238 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: Manning is worth five million dollars ten million dollars a year. 239 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: That ain't doing it for him, Like Peyton Manning was 240 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: never gonna work for ESPN. One thing. Also, I don't 241 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: think Peyton Manning's brand and ESPN really match up. And 242 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: I know ESPN is kind of getting away from some 243 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: of the things that they fell apart the last couple 244 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: of years. But still, I I just I think they 245 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: were shooting for the stars with a BB gun like 246 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: that that just was not gonna happen. I think the 247 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: mistake they made though to me, the play by play 248 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: guy can be kind of whoever, because even when Gruden 249 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: and Sean McDonald weren't seeing I I Gruden was such 250 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: a big star that it was still fun to watch. Uh. 251 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: McDonough struggled much better at college than he is with 252 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Like Testa Tour. I think he's a little 253 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: over the top. This is the NFL. This isn't you know, 254 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: a whack. When I was at Fresno, State used to 255 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: do whack games and this was the whack before the 256 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: Mountain West, like when we played Boise where Boise would 257 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: play Nevada. Uh, you know, there were some big time 258 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: talents back then. Kaepernick Ryan Matthews all those boys teams 259 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: so that we got pretty good games on like Thursday 260 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: or Friday night, and he do them with Rod Gilmore. 261 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: He's obviously worked his way up and he's I think 262 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: he's fine, But when it comes to the NFL, you 263 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: don't need to be that theatrical, so I I think 264 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: he needs to tone it down. But my bigger issue 265 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: is Booker McFarlane. He does not know the NFL one. 266 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: He's a college guy too. Just because you play in 267 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: the NFL does not mean you understand the players, their backgrounds, 268 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: the coaches, and the schemes. I think that's the biggest 269 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: misconception when it comes to former players that are just 270 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna be good on TV. It doesn't necessarily just because 271 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: he played the league. We saw with Jason Witton. Jason Witten, 272 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: I do think I'm gonna give him the benefit doubt 273 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: because I've seen him and heard him interviewed in other 274 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: platforms ago. This guy is really smart. He just struggled 275 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: to verbalize it. And I think there's an element of 276 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: television when the light comes on, can you perform or not? 277 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: No different in a player. You know a lot of 278 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: guys can do things in practice and then once the 279 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: game happens, they can't do anything. I heard Jason Witten, 280 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: he even talked about it. I think on Ryan was 281 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: Soulos podcast. He'd have good practice runs and then he'd 282 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: get on the live game, whether he frees or he'd 283 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: screw up. Yeah, it's just it's a different animal. It's 284 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: no different playing. It's just a different you know. It's 285 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: it's live television. It's hard. It's not easy to do, 286 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: to be comfortable, to be smart, to be witty. It's 287 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: it's what makes Madden and Gruden such unique talents. To me, 288 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: and again I'm a little biased here, but I would 289 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: have just given Lewis Riddick a chance. He has a 290 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: very unique perspective of working in front office. Is he's 291 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: really smart. He knows the league. He's forgot more about 292 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: the league in terms of coaches and players than Booker 293 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: McFarland ever will know. Uh. That would have been somewhat 294 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: of an outside the box, but clearly this is just 295 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: a year by year operation now until they can go 296 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: get Peyton Manning and Tony Romo. And they're not ever 297 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: gonna get that guy, so you might as well just 298 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: kind of take an outside the box. Swing just go 299 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: Former player Booker McFarland. Think about this. If Booker McFarland 300 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: was at another network, let's say CBS or Fox, is 301 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: there any chance any chance he would be on their 302 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: number crew, number one crew? It would be zero. It'd 303 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: be one thousand percent zero. He would not probably sniff 304 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: the number two chair in a lot of these things. Hell, 305 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: if he was the number one guy college, think about this. 306 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: For college, he wouldn't be ESPN number one college guy, 307 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: to be Herb Street. He wouldn't be Fox's number one 308 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: college guy. That'd be Joel Clatt. Charles Davis clearly just 309 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: knew much more about him when he did it. So 310 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: I think they just went with a safe pick, but 311 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: it was the wrong pick. And Monday at football, it's 312 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: been bad with Jason Witten. I got news for you. 313 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be worse. Okay, let's uh, let's 314 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: get into the middlecoup mail bag do it every week. 315 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: Just watching the end of this Philly game, the Sixers 316 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed the Raptors. Uh scrub time. So I thought 317 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: I'd uh. Great part about doing a podcast, I can 318 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: do different parts at different times of the day. Uh, 319 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: it's not like a live show, so you can kind 320 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: of patch working together and all sounds like one show. 321 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: It's a little trick to the trade. But let's get 322 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag slide up into my d M s 323 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff on Instagram, and we'll start with this 324 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: question for the mail bag. Do you think Josh Rosen 325 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: comes away from this whole ordeal looking pretty good? Seems 326 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: to me like he was dealt a really crappy situation 327 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: last year, and despite all the media chaos with Kyler, 328 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: he came off as the ultimate professional. I think by 329 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: a mile that Josh Rosen is the big winner, because 330 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: to me, the big loser is their's on the Cardinals 331 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: and Steve Kim and somewhat Cliff Is. They just look disingenuous, 332 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: they look fake, uh, and they just look kind of 333 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: like bad, like bad people, even though it is a 334 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: business and Steve Kim's job is to think first and 335 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: foremost about his organization, not the player. But yeah, I 336 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: would agree it was a top ten pick. He was 337 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: dealt the worst team in the league, the worst definitely 338 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: the worst offensive line in the league. Get the crap 339 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: kicked out of him. He handled it perfectly showed up 340 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: to O. T. A s. I'll tell you this. If 341 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: I had been in Josh Rosen situation and I was 342 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: cocky and arrogant like any twenty three year old quarterback 343 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: would be the moment I thought they were gonna take 344 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, I would have stopped showing up at O. T. 345 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: S Now. Looking back, that would have maken him look worse. 346 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: I give him full credit. He handed. He was the 347 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: first there, last one to leave. Cliff Kingsbury spoke highly 348 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: about him. He's still even after he was traded. To me, 349 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: it shows it wasn't fake. Because he showed up to 350 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: Larry fitzger old softball game. I think he won the 351 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: home run derby. To me, Larry Fitzgerald constantly signing off 352 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: on him shows something. And I've been saying over and 353 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: over all week long. To get Josh Rosen, a year 354 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: removed from his rookie year, with basically the last pick 355 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: of the second round and one of the last picks 356 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: of the second round is an absolute steal. Think about 357 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: two years ago, when Josh Rosen was coming out of 358 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: the draft. If the Miami Dolphins would have got him 359 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: for pick whatever what they get him for pick sixty two, 360 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: we would have called that the pick of the decade, 361 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: and just a year removed, not that much has changed. 362 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: He's got some NFL reps, he's comfortable in the league. 363 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: That's that's a huge win for the Miami Dolphins. So yeah, 364 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: I I I can't say it enough. He's the big winner. 365 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: And uh I I think that. I think the Miami 366 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: Dolphins got one of the most undervalued players in twenty years. 367 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: How often does a former first round less than twelve 368 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: months removed from the draft being able to a guy 369 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: that goes tent overall in the draft is available, non 370 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: because he sucks, but because of just the situation that 371 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: happened with Arizona for the sixty second pick. It's crazy. 372 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: You don't have to pay the guys. Bonus thoughts about 373 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: the Fresno State guys Keishawn Johnson playing with Kyler should 374 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: be fun. I like Keyshawn Johnson, even though I think 375 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: Kyler is a bit overhyped. I'd probably agree. Yeah, they 376 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: had a couple underclassmen on that Frenzel State team that 377 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: came out early and they went undrafted, And uh I, 378 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: I think that's somewhat epidemics probably the wrong word. But 379 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: the NFL has somewhat of a problem right now of 380 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: these underclassmen coming out and them not getting drafted, and 381 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know what can be done. I 382 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: think they get advice and maybe some guys just don't 383 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: want to listen to him. I I wouldn't necessarily be 384 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: opposed to do something like the NBA. Let a guy 385 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: dip his toe, you know, kind of into the water, 386 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: like you stay and rolled at school, you go to 387 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: the combine, and then after the combine you can decide 388 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: maybe a week out if you want to stay or 389 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: you want to go. Because if you go to the 390 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: combine and you you're safety and you run a four 391 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: nine like you ain't getting drafted. If you're a underclassman, 392 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: you should be able to go back to school. So 393 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: I think the league the next C B A. I 394 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: know we worry so much about money, but should talk 395 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 1: about some of those things to give some of these 396 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: underclassmen where it's clear, like hey, bro, you're not gonna 397 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: get drafted, and if you do, you're gonna go in 398 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: the six or seventh round. Now, if it's strictly about money, 399 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: come out. But if it's about chasing your dream because 400 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: you think you're gonna be a third rounder when you're 401 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: really not gonna be a seventh or an undrafted free 402 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: agent like these these guys shouldn't be stuck to the process. 403 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: I think the NBA does a much better job than 404 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. Now it's a little different in basketball. I 405 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: think the timeline is a little different, but I think 406 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: it would help these kids out a lot. I just 407 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: saw a way too early mock draft for next year 408 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: had two out of Bama going one over Herbert. What's 409 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that Bama hasn't produced an average quarterback 410 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: in years. I think there's too much hype. Well, I 411 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: think Herbert's a little overhyped, but I do think Herbert 412 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: has more physical attributes than two h I think at 413 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day, if I had to make 414 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: a prediction, as I'm recording this on May second, two 415 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, for basically the end of April two thousand, 416 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: twenty to two will not be the number one overall pick. 417 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: I do think two is gonna go really high. He's 418 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: because his threshold like the other guy, he's taller than 419 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. He's obviously a lot taller than Kyler. He 420 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: is really really accurate. I actually think there's gonna be 421 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: some comparisons to Baker Mayfield with a little bit of 422 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. So I think at the end of the day, 423 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: he's gonna go in the top five. He's got multiple 424 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: wide receivers. I mean, Jerry Judy is gonna go in 425 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: the top ten. He's got an unreal legious list of 426 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: skill guys. Organ is pretty good too, though. I kind 427 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: of like to get at Georgia Jake from again just 428 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: off TV scouting these guys. If I had to list 429 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: a prospect list right now, of the three quarterbacks, I'd 430 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: go Jake from one, I'd go to A two, and 431 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: I go Herbert three. But it happens every year, the 432 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: hype on guys far away, Oh, it's gonna be the 433 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: best quarterback class ever, and then us this man, Oh, 434 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 1: there's gonna be really sweet quarterbacks just okay, because they 435 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: all these guys constantly get picked apart, fairly and unfairly, right, 436 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: it just kind of is over the top that they 437 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: just get destroyed once they once they put their name 438 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: in the hat and people just really start diving into him. 439 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Texas fan. Out of the first four 440 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: selections of the huge Texans fan, the Texas decided to 441 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: draft players from a small school background. As a former scout, 442 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: when would you prefer to take a chance on small 443 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: school prospects, especially in rounds one through three? I don't 444 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: think you can look at it like that because I 445 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: think the tackle that they got was gonna go somewhere 446 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: between thirty and forty, So they got a Just because 447 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: you're at a smaller school does not mean you're not 448 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: a big time prospect, right. You can be a big 449 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: time prospect at a smaller school. To me, it's more 450 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: about just when you're evaluating the player. And I think 451 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: Titus Howard, the guy they took in the first round, 452 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: I know nothing about him. I can't even pretend to 453 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: have washed them. But if you if I was evaluating him, 454 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: what is going to translate to the NFL? Obviously has 455 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: a size, the athletic ability. Do I think he has 456 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: the mental toughness? Do I think it is a physical 457 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: toughness Because there's not gonna be much tape where he's 458 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: going up against NFL defensive ends. It's gonna be much 459 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: more in projection, my my individual workouts with the guy. 460 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: I think you're just gonna have to try to get 461 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: a feel for things not on tape, beside the things 462 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: you see on tape, just foot quickness, play strength, but 463 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: even play strank, like who's he really shoving around? I 464 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: think it's difficult and uh, but but I'm not against it. 465 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I wouldn't have some some rule going, 466 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, before pick forty. I'll never take a small 467 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: school guy because you can't do that. I mean, look, 468 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Carson Wentz came out of 469 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: North Dakota State. I mean, I wouldn't consider Texas Texas 470 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: small school, but Mahomes became the m v P from 471 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: Texas at Tech. You know, not every guy that comes 472 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: from USC, from Texas, from Alabama, from a house state 473 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: is a great player. So I think you kind of 474 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: gotta be careful with it right there. If the if 475 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: the beef is real, do you think it revolves around Thomas. 476 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: Maybe Shanahan has one trying to ship him out and 477 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: Lynch is trying to keep him. Lynch to me, seems 478 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: like he may have got two attached to players, and 479 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Shanahan more than more of the business mindset from what 480 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: I've heard, and I wrote an article about this on 481 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: The Athletic for Thursday. This this report is not true. Now, 482 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: I'd be naive to think that there hasn't been tensioned 483 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: and they've argued over things I wrote in the article. 484 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: I know for a fact they've been trying to trade 485 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas for a couple of months now. John Lynch 486 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: has denied that. I think it's pretty clear that when 487 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: John when Solomon Thomas was coming out, John Lynch love 488 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas. He had a class with him at Stanford, 489 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: fell in love with the character. He's clearly not a 490 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: very good player. The coach would never say he doesn't 491 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: like the player, but I don't need him to. I 492 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: just watched the way he benches him in games, So 493 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: of course he doesn't like him, because if he liked him, 494 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: he would play them. I'm not talking about personally, I'm 495 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: talking about professionally. Kyle does not think the kid can play, 496 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: because through two years he can't. So yes, I do 497 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: think there's probably some tension over that pick. But there's 498 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: always tension when you lose, and for two years there 499 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: ten and twenty two through two years now, they're six 500 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: and two when Jimmy starts. So if Jimmy's on the field, 501 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be good, and I think they'll 502 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: be fine. But in that article it said there's gonna 503 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: be a power struggle. There is no power struggle at 504 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: the top of the pyramid. Kyle's at the top. Kyle 505 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: personally hired John Lynch. Kyle Shanahan signed a six year 506 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: deal at over seven million dollars a year. If Kyle Lynch, 507 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: if if Kyle Shanahan wanted John Lynch removed, he would 508 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: be removed from his position. It really is that simple. 509 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: Uh that that's as really as simple as I could say. 510 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: If Adam Peters, I've known Adam Peters is working in 511 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: the league for a while. Adam Peter is one of 512 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: the higher character, better scouts in the NFL. Him and 513 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: Kyle get along. Hey, man, love the pod question. You 514 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: can just answer on I G or whatever. I'm twenty 515 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: four and my high school coach in Texas. I have 516 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: aspirations of coaching in college or maybe even the NFL, 517 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: and it was wondering if you could offer some insights 518 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: on steps I could take. Two maybe tangible from this point, 519 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: I know this is more of a coaching the scouting question. 520 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: I think my boat basic thing would be go to 521 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: the coaching clinics. The different schools around you have when 522 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: Texas or Texas A and M or Texas Tech or 523 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: any of the schools around you, the colleges have these 524 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: summer camps. Go to the summer camps. Good way to network, 525 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: good way just to meet other people. Uh. And obviously 526 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: you just gotta be active when if you have a 527 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: high school recruit you know in these in college coaches 528 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: are coming through, be active when you're introducing yourself. You 529 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: never know when that guy who's a coordinator might become 530 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: a head coach. It's just it's all based on relationships. 531 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: And that's football is no different than finance, is no 532 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: different than some sales position. Who you know, It's not 533 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: necessarily about what you know, because the irony is worked 534 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 1: in the NFL, worked in college football. Hell have been 535 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: around high school football that just because you're in the 536 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: NFL does not mean you're a great coach. Just because 537 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: you're individual one college doesn't mean you're a great coach. 538 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: Might mean you know the right person. Be My recommendation, 539 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: just network be active when you're meeting these guys, and uh, 540 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: you you have to be aggressive. You're twenty four years old. 541 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: Shouldn't be that difficult to be aggressive. Luckily, you know 542 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: you probably don't have a family yet. Uh, and that's 543 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: when you can. You know, it's a tough profession coaching. 544 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to move around. You gotta be 545 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: willing to move around. They're just it's part of the deal. 546 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: The Packers are putting their trust in Aaron Rodgers and 547 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: by not adding offensive weapons outside of the Notre Dame 548 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: running back in the sixth round, do you think the 549 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: Packers signed a vet in the upcoming weeks? Also, what 550 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: do you think the ceiling is for Petton's newly revamped defense. 551 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: You know, they got Davante Adams. They still got some 552 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: of the younger wide receivers number eighty three. Uh get 553 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: I can't help butcher his name, but you know who 554 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. The running back they drafted last year. 555 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: They got players on offense. Their offensive line is good, 556 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: and they hired an offensive coach to me a defense 557 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: defense defense. You add, you know the corner they after 558 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: the last year in the first round, their defensive backfield 559 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: should not be bad. They drafted Savage, they added Gary 560 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: to go along with Kenny Clark. Uh, they got some 561 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: young linebackers. I think Petton is a good defensive coach. 562 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: I actually thought the Packers were not terrible on defense. 563 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: Last year. Aaron Rodgers was facing in the offense was 564 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: the problem. It wasn't their defense. So their defense should 565 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: be even better this year. Again, they got a lot 566 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: of young corners. It's not exactly murders row in that 567 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: division when it comes. I mean, Cousins is solid, but 568 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: he's not Aaron Rodgers Stafford, you know, and that team 569 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: is just so hit or miss, and then you know Trubisky. 570 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: That team is much more of a defensive team than 571 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: an offensive team. So I think the Packers I don't 572 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: love their coach. I've said it over and over, but 573 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: their roster is not as bad as people talk about it. 574 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: It seems like sometimes during the draft, gms reach for 575 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: players because of ego. They feel like they see something 576 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: that somebody that nobody else does do. Some gms have 577 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: the I'm the smartest guy in the room attitude, or 578 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: maybe it's called the Chip Kelly attitude, you know. I 579 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's more based on this. When you 580 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: draft a guy, Let's use an example. I was thinking 581 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: one from the draft. Okay, let's let's use the example 582 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: of Mike Mayock and John Gruten. Let's John Gruden does 583 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: not quite understand value in the draft that he doesn't 584 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: really care. I think Mike does. But I think when 585 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: you look at that pick, Cleveland Farrell number four, you go, 586 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: we're not picking again until twenty four. We need a 587 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: four three defensive end, so Josh Allen does not fit. 588 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: So if we're gonna take Cleveland Farrell or we're gonna 589 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: need a four three defensive end once Nick Bosa and 590 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: Quinnin Williams. Quinnin Williams a defensive tackle, but he would 591 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: have fit them too. We got, well, we don't really 592 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: love any of these other defensive ends, and we're not 593 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: gonna take Montest Sweat here because of the heart murmur. 594 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: If we're gonna overdraft this guy, it's more just because 595 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be there when we draft at twenty four. 596 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: And while I do think it's an overdraft, I don't 597 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: think that's them being the smartest guy in the room. 598 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we draft a player 599 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: and I think you see this happen a lot in 600 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: the twenty. You go, well, all these tackles are gonna 601 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: be gone. Like let's say the Houston Texans. I thought 602 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: they screwed up last week because they didn't get aggressive 603 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: for the Washington State tackle. Now there is a chance 604 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: that they like Titus Howard more than Andre Dillard. I 605 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: would I'd be hard pressed to see that, but let's 606 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: just assume that. So you go, Okay, we'll wait for 607 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: Titus Howard. Well, here's the problem. If no one's willing 608 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: to trade back with you. You go, well, we don't 609 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: pick again till the end of the second round. This 610 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: player is not going to be there, so we have 611 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: to take him there. I think it has less to 612 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: do with the smartest guy in the room syndrome and 613 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: more to do with whenever you're picking, you just factor 614 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: it in when you pick next, and you go, god, 615 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: we can't get anyone to trade back with us. To me, 616 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: unless you have the all the information, like I know 617 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: you didn't even try to trade back, then you're kind 618 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: of an idiot. But if you tried to trade back 619 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: and no one is willing to trade back with you, 620 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: that's not really your fault. Then you just gotta draft 621 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: a guy that you go, well, we want this player 622 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: and we don't think he's gonna be there. Drafting is hard. 623 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I I love being critical over it. Obviously, 624 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: everyone loves listen to the podcast that was being critical 625 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: over it. It's one of the besides being critical and 626 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: talking about games, It's really the thing we talk most about. 627 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: What pick you made, What pick could you have made? 628 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: What pick did you bypass for making that pick? What 629 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: other situations scenarios could you have done. It's what makes 630 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: the NFL draft so fun. Really, I'm talking about it 631 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: a week later. We'll probably be talking about it for 632 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: weeks as these guys start playing in O t A. 633 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: So I think it's difficult. I don't think there's necessarily 634 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: a right or wrong way to do it. Do you 635 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: think the Ravens offense will be as productive as it 636 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: looks on paper? I was actually earlier day I had 637 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: in my office NFL Live on the background and John 638 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: Harbaugh was on there, and one thing is pretty clear. 639 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: The Ravens. I'm not a Lamar Jackson believer, but I 640 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: do respect that they're just going all in on kind 641 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: of this niche deal. They're just gonna have a track team. 642 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna have outside receivers that can fly. There, gonna 643 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: have a quarterback that can fly, and then they're gonna 644 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: have running backs that can just slam the ball between 645 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: the tackles. They're gonna have a downhill running game and 646 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: just try to hit deep balls on play action passes. 647 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of gonna be like a college 648 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: offense would be a little chip Kelly ish Uh. Now, 649 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: will it work? I'd say no. I think John Harbaugh 650 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: is a really good coach. They always have a good defense, 651 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be different next year with every team. Ready, 652 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: are they gonna be able to complete enough balls on 653 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: a weekend week out basis to be a competitive team, Like, 654 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna be good, you know, six seven wins, eight wins, 655 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: but can they win ten wins? Now? John Harbor had 656 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: a good point. He's like, no one's gonna pick us 657 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: to win. That's usually how it goes here, and they 658 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: haven't been picked to win that division in years. But 659 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: I I who the hell is gonna pick them to 660 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: win running that offense? Not me? Hey man, random thought 661 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: and wanted to get your opinion with the NFL being 662 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: a salary cap league, how has there never heard of 663 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: teams trying to get around the cap by paying dudes 664 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: under the table. I'm not well read on ownership rules 665 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: and penalties for cheating, but I would think them how 666 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: that somehow try to get around the cap by Now, 667 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: as a Cowboy fan, I think Jerry would be a 668 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: habitual violator of this. Well, that's a good question. Uh, 669 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, you'd have to ask people in the league 670 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: to get a really really good answer. The one thing 671 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: I would imagine is they have very very serious penalties 672 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: on that. Paying anyone outside the cap is a major 673 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: major violation. Wasn't didn't something happen a couple of years 674 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: ago to the Cowboys and the Redskins. They got popped 675 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: for something might have been like just something around the cap, 676 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: but I think draft picks. Here's the other thing. All 677 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: these guys. What unique about the NFL, like Jerry Jones 678 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: and Stan Cronkey and Robert Kraft, is while they're all 679 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: competitive against each other, they're all partners. You know. Like 680 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: if I'm running a media company and I start John J. 681 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: D M Media my media company, then if I'm doing 682 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: podcasts and Internet videos, then I start competing against bar stool, right, 683 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: and hell ESPN. Let's just use bar stool as an example. 684 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: Bar Stools competition isn't like internet blogs. It's now ESPN, 685 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 1: it's now Fox, So you're not You're not in it 686 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: to win it with them. You guys are competitive, We're 687 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You're competitive on the field. But if 688 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: I make money, that means you're making money. That means 689 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: we're all making money. And and in the NFL they 690 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: split revenue. So while coaches might want to cheat, Belichick 691 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: and I don't even think. I've never real even thought 692 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: Belichick cheated. I thought he pushed the envelope. From an 693 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: ownership standpoint, I just crossing those lines for those guys 694 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: doesn't make as much sense. They're all kind of they're 695 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: they're I mean, they are partners. Okay, let's get a 696 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: couple more. What are your thoughts on the state of 697 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: the Rams draft? Seemed like a B grade, but I 698 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: think that would have been better than they use their 699 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: late first round pick on one of the tackles. Are 700 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: an interior offensive lineman like Dalton Risner also know how 701 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: concerning to me, the most concerning thing about the Rams. 702 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, he was last year, the last couple of years, 703 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: became one of the best players in the league, one 704 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: of the most unique players in the league. And clearly 705 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: this arthritis, tendonitis, whatever's wrong with his knee. They drafted 706 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: a running back on the second day is not good. 707 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: So as long as he was healthy, I'd say this, 708 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: I'd say the Rams are gonna be really good. But 709 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: if Todd Gurley becomes a shell of himself, I'd say 710 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna be in some trouble because more pressure is 711 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: gonna be on Jared Goff. No Dominicans who's not there now, 712 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: No Dominicans who's not great. They lost Joiner, but they 713 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: did add Taylor, rapped the kid from Washington. Uh. They 714 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: still got Marcus Peters, who's you know, kind of okay. 715 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's arguably the best defensive player in the league. 716 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: Him or Kalil Mack. Got some young tight ends. They 717 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: still wit, We're still around. McVeigh is a really good coach. 718 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: They're gonna be competitive. But to me, their point of 719 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: difference the last two years has been Todd Gurley. To me, 720 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: when you're point of difference, like the Colts, they got 721 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. You know Andy, he has Mahomes. Now, you know, 722 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: if your point of difference is your quarterback the Seattle 723 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: Seas Russell Wilson, when all else fails, that guy can 724 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: make place for you. The Rams point of difference is 725 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: Todd freak and girly, and that's why they lose in 726 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl thirteen to three. There is no chance 727 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: if he's they don't score none. I just I think 728 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: it's impossible. But that's just you know the nature of 729 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: the beast when you lose your most important uh player. 730 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: Uh hey, Middlecoff appreciate the podcast. I'm a Bills fan 731 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: from Walnut Creek, California. I see a buddy currently living 732 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: in Rockland via at the Air Force. Been in Rockland 733 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: many times. How do you feel about the Bill's draft 734 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: plus free agency? Am I crazy? Thinking nine or ten 735 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: wins and a wild card contender? Like they're draft a 736 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: lot obviously their first two picks. Just watched the video 737 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: from the draft. It's really cool some of these teams 738 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: doing some of these videos. I mean, the Colts did 739 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: a twenty minute video on you too, which is just badass. 740 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: It's awesome. The Bills did like an eight minute one 741 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: that's really good. At Oliver was widely viewed by most 742 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: as a top five prospect. The kid Cody Ford they 743 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: got in the second round, really really good player. Who 744 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: else did they draft? They draft the Florida Atlantic running back, 745 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: so they got three really good players. I didn't like 746 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: their free agency as much. They have an inaccurate quarterback 747 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: and they have a signed a bunch of midget wide 748 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: receivers like I don't like. I like big body guys 749 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: with something like to me, Michael Crabtree actually makes a 750 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: lot of sense for them now. I don't necessarily know 751 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: if Sean McDermott would be a Michael Crabtree guy, but 752 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: that would be the type guy that I would go after. Uh, 753 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: Wins feels a little bullish. I'd probably go seven or eight. 754 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna be vastly improved. Longtime Cardinals fan, Yes, 755 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: it's hard, I feel you. Uh. What is your overall 756 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: opinion of Steve Khan? Ignoring his d u y as 757 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: a GM, He's made few good moves, I e. David 758 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: Johnson getting Carson Palmer also drafted the honey Badger, but 759 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: his overall his miss as far away as good decisions. 760 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: He also traded for Chandler Jones, So I think he's 761 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: actually made some pretty good moves. Seems he'll never get 762 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: fired because he's buddy buddy with Bidwell, which you know, 763 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, in fairness, Steve Khin 764 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: like being buddies with your owner is important probably in 765 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: any job. What in my overall takes, I I think 766 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: he's more capable than I think that if people are 767 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 1: down on him. Did he handle this Kyler Murray Josh 768 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: Rosen thing, Well, you know, I don't know how else 769 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: he could have handled it. Uh maybe he could have 770 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: been a man and just looked at Josh Rosen two 771 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: weeks before and said, man, you're not gonna be on 772 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: the team. You don't need to keep coming if you 773 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, or just do something like 774 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: that instead of kind of stringing him along, which let's 775 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: call it what it is, there's a human element to us. 776 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: All that kind of feels it was screwed up, messed up, 777 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: not fair to the kid. He deserved better, and you 778 00:37:54,080 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: know he didn't get it. But uh so, yeah, I'd 779 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: say right now, it's not great. I mean, to me, 780 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: is a big, big, couple of years for him. He 781 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: had a one and done head coach and Steve Wilkes. 782 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: He goes and hires Cliff Kingsbury, who was an under 783 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: five hundred coach in Texas Tech. Now he produced some quarterbacks, 784 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: but to think that he's gonna be able to work 785 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL seems extreme. He obviously knows nothing about defense. 786 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: They drafted a midget quarterback who is really talented. They 787 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: drafted their offensive line stinks, and they just drafted a 788 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: bunch of wide receivers. So, I I know Cliff Kingsbury 789 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: probably thinks, so I can scheme anything with these these 790 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: offensive line and like, good luck, bro, you gotta drop 791 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: block Aaron Donald, you gotta block d Ford and Deforced 792 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: Buckner and Nick Bosa. It's not gonna be easy. I 793 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be really, really difficult. And if the 794 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals are top five drafting team again this year, I 795 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: don't see how Steve come survives. Appreciate everyone listening. Thanks again, 796 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: enjoy the Weekend three Out podcast to all your friends. 797 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: Subscribe and UH talk to you next week. Did to 798 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: get that ta