WEBVTT - Latinos Persevering

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<v Speaker 1>you're having a good one. Here's a show from the archives.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight seven, six, five five for engine Ignition two one zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Relate and lift off.

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<v Speaker 3>As the countdowns cars continues the Perseverance of humanity launching

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<v Speaker 3>the next generation of robotic explorers to the Red Planet.

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<v Speaker 1>From Fudromidia and RX. It's Latino USA. I'm Mariano Rosa.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we meet some of the Latinos working on the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty historic Perseverance mission to Mars. It's been about

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<v Speaker 1>forty five years since the first US spacecraft landed safely

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<v Speaker 1>on Mars. Since then, there have been several other missions

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<v Speaker 1>to the Red Planet, each one building off of the

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<v Speaker 1>other and getting us to where we are today Perseverance.

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<v Speaker 4>After the Rover Curiosity landed on Mars eight years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>it confirmed the Red planet once could have supported life.

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<v Speaker 4>Perseverance will try to find definitive proof catch.

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<v Speaker 5>Out confirmed Perseverance safely on the sefith of Mars.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rover left Earth last July and traveled almost three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million miles across space to its destination, the Red Planet.

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<v Speaker 1>And on today's episode, you're going to hear from some

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<v Speaker 1>of the Latinos and Latinas whose own perseverance made this

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<v Speaker 1>mission possible. People like Dianna Trujillo.

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<v Speaker 6>The night before always were empty and I am setting

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<v Speaker 6>up thinking about, you know, having the biggest night of

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<v Speaker 6>my career. On the next morning, on getting ready.

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<v Speaker 1>For it, Christina Ernandez.

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<v Speaker 7>I woke up super early because I could not sleep

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<v Speaker 7>at all in the anticipation of landing on Mars. I

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<v Speaker 7>was one of the people who was actually supporting remotely

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<v Speaker 7>from home. So because of the pandemic, a large majority

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<v Speaker 7>of our team is actually working remotely.

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<v Speaker 1>Elio Morigo.

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<v Speaker 5>The moment we landed, we were just you know, throwing

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<v Speaker 5>our arms up. It was super emotional because after so

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<v Speaker 5>many years, our baby was fine only on the surface

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<v Speaker 5>of Mars, ready to get on with the science mission.

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<v Speaker 1>And Alejandro Miguel San Martin, who went viral after his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter shared with the world Alejandro's reaction to the moment

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<v Speaker 1>when Perseverance landed on Mars.

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<v Speaker 8>Table being at home, my wife next to me, I

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<v Speaker 8>was more free to actually be part of the experience

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<v Speaker 8>than in the previous for landings that I was in

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<v Speaker 8>the control room in a more bridgie settings, because you're

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<v Speaker 8>doing a job, and so I think that's also play

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<v Speaker 8>a role in my being able to celebrate the great

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<v Speaker 8>success of Perseverance landing.

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<v Speaker 1>Year's producer Reinaldo Leanos Junior bringing us their stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Diana tru Hill was working late at NASA's JPL Jet

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<v Speaker 2>Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, the night before the Perseverance

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<v Speaker 2>rover would finally touch down on the surface of Mars.

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<v Speaker 6>That night, I think it was not only reflecting on that,

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<v Speaker 6>reflecting also oman family and understanding how far we have

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<v Speaker 6>gotten us humanity and recognizing that everybody is going to

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<v Speaker 6>get to see what we're about to do on Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>As flight director for the rover, Deanna knew that in

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<v Speaker 2>just a couple of hours should be a part of history.

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<v Speaker 6>I was setting up and getting ready for the first

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<v Speaker 6>Spanish language landing broadcast and NASA has done for a

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<v Speaker 6>planetary mission, Perseverance.

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<v Speaker 2>Deanna would lead this broadcast and give a play by

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<v Speaker 2>play as the rover inch closer and closer to landing.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea for a Spanish language broadcast came to her

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<v Speaker 2>when she was working on another Mars mission about a

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<v Speaker 2>decade ago, Curiosity.

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<v Speaker 6>It came to my mind, maybe like a week or

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<v Speaker 6>a few days before Curiosity landed in twenty twelve. But

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<v Speaker 6>since then I've been, you know, going to the media

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<v Speaker 6>office periodically every time there's a major mission happening, like hey,

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<v Speaker 6>we should do this in Spanish, Hey we should do

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<v Speaker 6>this in Spanish and yeah, So right before Perseverance started,

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<v Speaker 6>I mentioned it again and consistently, I feel like for

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<v Speaker 6>seven years, and then they said yes, So.

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<v Speaker 9>Idiana trojijoa, studijando director Deuelo, the Superficia, the Perseverance.

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<v Speaker 6>But oh thank god.

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<v Speaker 9>Pre program my nest Panol de la Nasa Planetario bien venils.

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<v Speaker 2>Throughout nearly two hours of broadcast, Deanna several guests by

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<v Speaker 2>virtually like Lola and Abby from Sestime Street.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 6>Ona Is the Lisa C.

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<v Speaker 3>Mascalistas see Lola Estadosperandusi Momento.

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<v Speaker 2>And Colombian artist Juanzolissa. Journalists Ramos and Maria, Elena Salinas

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<v Speaker 2>and others also made an appearance. Just before one pm

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific time on February eighteenth, Perseverance landed on mars Emo Perceeo.

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<v Speaker 10>Takewaymorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>The video of the Spanish broadcast, which they called Junto Samos,

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<v Speaker 2>has more than two point six million views on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 6>Our culture showed up to it.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't like please come, It was the other way,

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<v Speaker 6>which was thank you for having it in Spanish. We

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to hear it. We have always been here, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, nobody was talking to us. So now somebody's

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<v Speaker 6>talking to us, and that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Her family in the US and abroad also tuned in.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm from Colombia in my country on the public channel,

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<v Speaker 6>they broadcasted it, so my grandma saw it and she

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<v Speaker 6>was super excited. She was actually on the phone with

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<v Speaker 6>my mom, my kids, my husband, my mom. They're all

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<v Speaker 6>watching it on TV at home while I'm at the office.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>I was glad her family watched, but even more excited

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<v Speaker 2>that they were part of this collective experience.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure that if he hadn't been the pandemic, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I love my culture and everything. I feel

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<v Speaker 6>like we would have pull up the TV outside everybody

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<v Speaker 6>will have you on the street. People will be like

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<v Speaker 6>watch this, and like all the neighbors would have opened

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<v Speaker 6>the doors, Like I could see that happening on my

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<v Speaker 6>country and even on my own street right where everybody

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<v Speaker 6>just unites for a single thing that is happening with

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of pride because we're part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>The road to NASA has been a long one for Vienna,

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<v Speaker 2>but she remembers different times throughout her life that space

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<v Speaker 2>found its way to her. The first time was when

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<v Speaker 2>she was a little girl and her parents were getting

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<v Speaker 2>a divorce. As she felt that everything around her was

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<v Speaker 2>falling off, the stars in the night sky held her up.

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<v Speaker 6>That's when space came in for me, because I think

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<v Speaker 6>that it was just more of like an escape kind

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<v Speaker 6>of like now as an adult, you know, you have

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<v Speaker 6>a bad day and you go out for a walk

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<v Speaker 6>and you look at the stars and you're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>I got my moment of I'm calm. Now, that's the

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<v Speaker 6>same it was for me when I was a little girl,

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<v Speaker 6>So thinking about the stars, looking at how awesome that is,

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<v Speaker 6>and then as you're in that zone of peace, recognizing that,

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<v Speaker 6>my god, somebody actually walked on the moon, which is

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<v Speaker 6>insane and I am so far from that and there's

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<v Speaker 6>no way I will ever do that and it's not

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<v Speaker 6>going to happen. But how cool would it be to

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<v Speaker 6>understand how that works? Because somehow the sky figure out

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<v Speaker 6>how to make it all work, and we haven't on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the women Indiana's life who would make her

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<v Speaker 2>aware of her true potential. On frequent visits to her

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<v Speaker 2>grandmother's house, who lived just the block away from her,

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<v Speaker 2>she would sit on the floor and listen to her

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<v Speaker 2>Abuela Diaz and cousins talk about everything.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, my husband did this, You're not gonna be leave that.

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<v Speaker 6>It was kind of like they were coming together to

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<v Speaker 6>share with each other the stories of what had occurred

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<v Speaker 6>to them on that week. There was this beautiful thing

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<v Speaker 6>where there was a community of women. They were just

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<v Speaker 6>helping each other, and it was almost like this is

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<v Speaker 6>happening to me, Is this happening to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Or how did you handle this, Danna says, is coming

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<v Speaker 2>together of women was essential for her to recognize that

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<v Speaker 2>everyone has problems, that there is always a way out.

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<v Speaker 6>Those problems, in many cases were very similar to each other.

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<v Speaker 6>I can do this, I can do that, or I

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<v Speaker 6>don't have this, or I don't have that, and a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of the I can do this, I can do

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<v Speaker 6>that were related to the relationship where your significant other

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<v Speaker 6>and the backing down from what you wanted out of

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<v Speaker 6>in some level, fear fear of it's all to my partner.

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<v Speaker 6>I give everything to my partner. But what about you, Like,

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<v Speaker 6>when are you going to think about for one moment,

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<v Speaker 6>this is what I want to do, this is how

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<v Speaker 6>I want to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>She started to wonder what about her, what were her

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<v Speaker 2>goals and really.

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<v Speaker 6>What that to me translated after a while through the

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<v Speaker 6>years was mainly that my grandma didn't finish middle school

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<v Speaker 6>because of concerns from her significant other completely education. My

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<v Speaker 6>mom also took a long time to even complete her

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<v Speaker 6>degree because she was supporting my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>But her mom and grandma wanted Diana's life to be different.

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<v Speaker 2>With high hopes and expectations for her. They had officially

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<v Speaker 2>named her Lady Danna.

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<v Speaker 6>Part of my understanding from my grandma and choosing the

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<v Speaker 6>name is you don't come second, you come first because

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<v Speaker 6>you're our princess of the house and we want you

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<v Speaker 6>to do so great. And so they tried everything from

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<v Speaker 6>the name to the environment to protect me and build

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<v Speaker 6>me in a way that I could see that I

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<v Speaker 6>could do anything I wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Danna eventually moved to the US when she was seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>years old. She knew she wanted to pursue something challenging.

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<v Speaker 6>I have to do something hard. I have to do

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<v Speaker 6>something that sends the message internally to my family really

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<v Speaker 6>that women do add value, that women have value and

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<v Speaker 6>we can contribute as much as another person or more.

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<v Speaker 6>So when I got here at that, how do I

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<v Speaker 6>help the men and my family recognize that.

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<v Speaker 2>She knew being an astronaut was one of the hardest

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<v Speaker 2>things someone could do, so she started to explore the

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<v Speaker 2>career paths of other astronauts and discovered several of them

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<v Speaker 2>were aerospace engineers. That eventually led her to NASA JPL,

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<v Speaker 2>where she's had many hats. As the Mars mission has evolved.

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<v Speaker 2>These days, Danna and her colleagues work around the clock

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure everything's okay on Mars.

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<v Speaker 6>A way of actually picturing this in my mind is

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<v Speaker 6>like you're walking through a house and you're turning every

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<v Speaker 6>single light, making sure that every light bulb warks, and

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<v Speaker 6>then nothing has actually burned.

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<v Speaker 2>She says. The rover has a schedule like you and I.

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<v Speaker 6>In our case, you know, you put your alarm at

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<v Speaker 6>not six am. The rover has an alarm at nine am,

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<v Speaker 6>and so the wakes up at nine am to listen

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<v Speaker 6>to the commands of the day, which includes commanding everything

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<v Speaker 6>from moving the arm, taking images, doing any type of

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<v Speaker 6>instrument activity, driving. But the rover just like it's exactly

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<v Speaker 6>like you and I. Right at some point it's like

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<v Speaker 6>I need to recharge my batteries, and so we put

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<v Speaker 6>it to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Deanna says the days on Earth and Mars are different,

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<v Speaker 2>so sometimes they'll start at midnight and maybe another day

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<v Speaker 2>they'll start at three am or ten am. It just varies,

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<v Speaker 2>and while she plans to continue to be part of

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<v Speaker 2>the Mars mission, Deanna has not given up on her

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<v Speaker 2>original goal to become an astronaut.

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<v Speaker 6>If the opportunity way to come, I will certainly go

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<v Speaker 6>right if you were to ask me right now, Hey,

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<v Speaker 6>there's an open spot you want to go or not.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, yeah, let's do it, Like there's no

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<v Speaker 6>let me go think about it, let me consult. Nope,

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<v Speaker 6>it's like, oh yeah, I already have my list of

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<v Speaker 6>what I will pack done.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on Latino USA, we'll hear more from Latinos

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<v Speaker 1>and Latinas who helped make this recent mission to Mars possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to share some inspirational words for any

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<v Speaker 1>of you who are thinking about a career in NASA,

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon, the Stars, stem Mars. Stay with us, don't

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<v Speaker 1>stay like us. Hey we're back and let's get back

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the Latinos and Latinas who recently helped

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<v Speaker 1>send a rover to Mars. Producer Ronaldo Leans Junior once

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<v Speaker 1>again picks up the story from here.

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<v Speaker 2>In the lead up to the rover landing, part of

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<v Speaker 2>the Mars team worked on the rover itself, and others

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<v Speaker 2>worked hard on designing, building, and testing scientific instruments that

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<v Speaker 2>are part of Perseverance. One of those instruments is named Sherlock,

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<v Speaker 2>which is.

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<v Speaker 7>An ultra violet spectrometer and it has a companion called Watson.

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<v Speaker 7>We love our cute names. Watson is a camera that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Christina Hernandez, a payload system engineer. She worked on

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<v Speaker 2>two scientific instruments. One that was developed in Spain called Meta.

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<v Speaker 7>Which is a weather station that has sensors throughout the

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<v Speaker 7>vehicle and is going to help us understand temperature, humidity,

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<v Speaker 7>and even the dust that we have at Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>And one made in Norway called Rimfax, which is.

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<v Speaker 7>A ground penetrating radar that as the rover is traversing

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<v Speaker 7>and trekking along the Martian surface, Rimfax is going to

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<v Speaker 7>be able to image what's underneath.

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<v Speaker 2>Working with teams based outside the US forced Christina to

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<v Speaker 2>adapt to their clocks.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I would have to get up at like

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<v Speaker 7>five am for six am seven am design meetings with

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<v Speaker 7>the team. Early on it was lots of meetings, lots

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<v Speaker 7>of design, lots of like you know, big picture thinking,

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<v Speaker 7>how are we going to do this? And about a

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<v Speaker 7>year and a half from launch it got to my

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<v Speaker 7>favorite part, where you start testing and building hardware and

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<v Speaker 7>seeing how it's working and fighting fires and troubleshooting. That's

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<v Speaker 7>the fun stuff, right You're in the in the tests

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<v Speaker 7>in the lab till like three in the morning, figuring

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<v Speaker 7>out these problems that have come up that you didn't

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<v Speaker 7>prepare for.

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<v Speaker 2>But Christina wasn't always the type of person who liked

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<v Speaker 2>to break and take things apart.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't grow up being a tinker, you know. I

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't taking apart, you know, remotes and things like that.

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<v Speaker 7>I explored through turning a page in a book. I

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<v Speaker 7>loved reading. I loved sign fiction. And I remember seeing,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, pictures from Saturn that Cassini actually took, and

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<v Speaker 7>I asked myself, I was like, Wow, how do I

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<v Speaker 7>take a picture of something that's so far away, so

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<v Speaker 7>far out of my perspective and my reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Christina realized that she wanted to be someone who helps

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<v Speaker 2>answer those questions that are fundamental to being human, like

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<v Speaker 2>why are we here? And what else is out there?

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to be an engineer that helped enable science,

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<v Speaker 7>and I really feel that's what I get to do

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<v Speaker 7>every single day as this payload systems engineer, which is

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<v Speaker 7>really just a fancy title for somebody who helps develop

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<v Speaker 7>the tools and the science instruments that we take to

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<v Speaker 7>go explore and answer these fundamental questions.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time Christina heard about NASA's JPL was through

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<v Speaker 2>a show called Nova on PBS. She learned that it

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<v Speaker 2>was at JPL where some of these engineers made missions

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<v Speaker 2>in space a reality.

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<v Speaker 7>My mom was such a supporter of taking me to

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<v Speaker 7>the library, taking me to museums because we couldn't afford

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<v Speaker 7>space camp, so my mother sought out opportunities that were

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<v Speaker 7>accessible to us, and one of those was JPL's open House.

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<v Speaker 7>I just came away with the feeling of this place's

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<v Speaker 7>Disneyland for nerds. You're walking around open house and these

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<v Speaker 7>engineers are driving small robots over kids. They're bringing out

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<v Speaker 7>our larger robots from the Mars yard and showcasing them.

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<v Speaker 7>I just never realized that there was a place where

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<v Speaker 7>science fiction meets reality.

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<v Speaker 2>When Christina was an elementary school, her dad, an electrical technician,

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<v Speaker 2>was studying to be an electrical engineer.

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<v Speaker 7>My dad would always take me everywhere with him. He

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<v Speaker 7>would take me to the facilities, and I just specifically

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<v Speaker 7>remember cal State, LA. There was a couple of you know,

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<v Speaker 7>electrical centers that he would go and check in and repair,

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<v Speaker 7>and I would see his toolkit, all of his meters

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<v Speaker 7>where he's you know, checking on the equipment, and I

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<v Speaker 7>started to connect you know math and science to dad,

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<v Speaker 7>I really started to make the connection of Oh, like,

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<v Speaker 7>my dad's going to be an engineer. He's going to

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<v Speaker 7>help in this endeavor.

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<v Speaker 6>Of what I see on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>She started to realize that if she wanted to make

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<v Speaker 2>science fiction happen, she needed to focus on engineering, which

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<v Speaker 2>eventually led her to NASA's JPL. A few years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>she took her parents and Abuilos, a Mexican immigrants, for

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<v Speaker 2>a visit to JPL. While touring the laboratory, her grandmother

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<v Speaker 2>told Christina a story she had never heard before.

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<v Speaker 7>There was a moment when they got picked up by immigration,

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<v Speaker 7>and my grandmother tells me that when they were on

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<v Speaker 7>their way to the immigrant center, on the radio, they

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<v Speaker 7>were celebrating something with the Apollo astronauts. This was like

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<v Speaker 7>back in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>My grandmother just vividly remembers that moment, you know, when

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<v Speaker 7>she was thinking about, oh, there's people who are exploring space.

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<v Speaker 2>Suddenly Christina realized how far she'd made it.

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<v Speaker 7>When I heard that story, I got very emotional because

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<v Speaker 7>I it was that moment where you realize what a

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<v Speaker 7>privilege it can be to be working for a NASSA

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<v Speaker 7>to be having your dream job. And it really started

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<v Speaker 7>with my grandparents and my parents setting this foundation of

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<v Speaker 7>coming to this country for greater opportunity and pushing forward

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<v Speaker 7>no matter what the obstacles were.

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<v Speaker 2>When perseverance made it to Mars, Christina's grandmother took her

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<v Speaker 2>granddaughter's contributions to the mission as also part of her own.

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<v Speaker 7>In the moment of landing, you know, what she had

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<v Speaker 7>said is that yo yah yah, yeah Marte, because her

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<v Speaker 7>granddaughter had gotten there, and it was it was very

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<v Speaker 7>special because we are here because of our families, because

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<v Speaker 7>they supported us with whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>Means they had.

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<v Speaker 7>It's the foundation and the path that the explorers and

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<v Speaker 7>my family paved for me to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>For Ecuador born Eleo Morio, a systems test bet engineer

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<v Speaker 2>at NASA JPL, it was his mom who was his foundation.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom the entire time. You know, she was an

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<v Speaker 5>ecuador She had almost nearly a twenty plus year career

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<v Speaker 5>as a teacher. You know, she reached the heights of

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<v Speaker 5>her career. She was a principal, She was known across

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the whole area for academics and such.

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<v Speaker 2>Then in the nineties, things started to change.

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<v Speaker 5>The banking system kind of collapsed, and this is around

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<v Speaker 5>the time where Ecuador gets dollarized. My mom knew that

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<v Speaker 5>the situation could potentially get dire, and we had some

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<v Speaker 5>family at the time or over several years had already

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<v Speaker 5>moved to New York City, which included my grandparents and

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<v Speaker 5>some aunts and uncles. So we got fortunate in the

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<v Speaker 5>sense that my grandpa requested us through the green card

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<v Speaker 5>process and we got our green cards.

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<v Speaker 2>So Eleo and his mom packed up and left for

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<v Speaker 2>New York. Ellio's older brother, seventeen years his senior, moved

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<v Speaker 2>to New York before Elio was born.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't imagine putting myself through that kind of position

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<v Speaker 5>where after twenty plus years as a professional in my

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<v Speaker 5>respective career, I end up going to another country where

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<v Speaker 5>I don't necessarily know the language, and I have a

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<v Speaker 5>son and that I have to take care of and

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<v Speaker 5>make ends meet so that he's fed, he's educated, and

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<v Speaker 5>has opportunities to set up for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Elio's mom would hold different jobs, from packing food at

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<v Speaker 2>John F. Kennedy Airport to cleaning offices. Around this time,

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<v Speaker 2>Elio's older brother ended up getting married to a Puerto

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<v Speaker 2>Rican woman and they all moved to the island.

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<v Speaker 5>It's where I form my Spanish is Puerto Rican. By

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<v Speaker 5>all definition, I identify more Puerto Rican than Ecuadorian.

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<v Speaker 2>For that case, livin again in a place where Spanish

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<v Speaker 2>was also spoken. Elio's mom resumed her teaching career. She

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<v Speaker 2>did tutoring to bring in some extra money and went

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<v Speaker 2>back to college.

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<v Speaker 5>It was always very clear for me through her that

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<v Speaker 5>education was the way out of our situation. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>full blown poverty, but we didn't have you know, we

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<v Speaker 5>never had a car, I never had internet at my

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<v Speaker 5>own place, we never had cable. I got all these things,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, spending weekends at my friend's house or something.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where I kind of became aware of what the

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<v Speaker 5>working class in middle class people had, you know. It

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<v Speaker 5>gave me those a sense of aspiration to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if I go to school and do such and such,

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<v Speaker 5>I can have these things, and I can provide these

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<v Speaker 5>opportunities for my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 2>It was during these weekends at his friend's house, while

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<v Speaker 2>watching Saturday morning cartoons, that Ilio became interested in science, math,

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<v Speaker 2>and technology.

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<v Speaker 5>I used to love Dexter's Laboratory still do, would watch

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<v Speaker 5>that in a heartbeat any day. I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 5>like Dexter.

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<v Speaker 7>Dexter, my sensors have picked up a giant meteor headed.

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<v Speaker 2>Directly for Earth.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to have my own lab. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>build my own robots and do my own science.

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<v Speaker 2>Experiments like Christina. He'd also watched Nova and Catching Cosmos,

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<v Speaker 2>all show that really opened his eyes to what the

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<v Speaker 2>universe had.

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<v Speaker 5>Fantasy played a lot into how I shaped I guess

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<v Speaker 5>and how I formed what I believed in and created

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<v Speaker 5>a vision in a way of what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>become involved with.

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<v Speaker 2>Elio would stay in Puerto Rico until around the time

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<v Speaker 2>he was in eighth grade. Then he would have to

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<v Speaker 2>relocate again.

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<v Speaker 5>It was two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 5>that's when the economy in Puerto Rico really starts spiraling

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<v Speaker 5>out of control into what it is today. My mom

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<v Speaker 5>saw those patterns because she had lived through them in Ecuador.

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<v Speaker 8>She knew what was to come.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also an important time in Elio's life because

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<v Speaker 2>he was about to go to high school, and his

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<v Speaker 2>mom knew that the high school process would be important

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<v Speaker 2>for him to go to college. His brother and sister

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<v Speaker 2>in law ended up moving to Florida, so Eleo moved

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<v Speaker 2>back to New York City in the middle of its

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<v Speaker 2>eighth grade year. He would then go to high school.

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<v Speaker 2>With the importance of education instilled in him. Elio would

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<v Speaker 2>then go to the University of Michigan and study mechanical

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<v Speaker 2>engineering as his major and electrical engineering as his minor.

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<v Speaker 2>He would do internships at SpaceX, Boeing and other places,

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<v Speaker 2>then complete grad school before joining NASA.

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<v Speaker 5>For five years almost I have been involved with the

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<v Speaker 5>System TESTBA team. We have the Earth equivalent models all

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<v Speaker 5>of the subsystems that are going to go to Mars.

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<v Speaker 5>The Earth equivalent models live here on Earth and they

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<v Speaker 5>stay here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>He says. This allows them to test every hardware and

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<v Speaker 2>software interaction they can think of and simulate a Mars

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<v Speaker 2>environment through inputs that makes the rover and spacecraft computers

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<v Speaker 2>believe that they are going through the launch, space descent

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<v Speaker 2>and landing onto the red planet. The simulations allow them

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<v Speaker 2>to anticipate any issues and fix them ahead of time.

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<v Speaker 5>I specialize on particular subsystems, including the mechanical the motor control,

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<v Speaker 5>the head of the rover, the cameras which were the

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<v Speaker 5>first images we got down. I had tested for years

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<v Speaker 5>the high gain antenna, which is the antenna on the

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<v Speaker 5>rover that lets us speak directly to the rover as

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<v Speaker 5>well as communicate certain telemetry directly from the rover to Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Elio says that the people who are now operating the

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<v Speaker 2>rover on Mars also had to be tested.

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<v Speaker 5>I was leading many of these efforts on the test

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<v Speaker 5>bed side, where you throw wrenches at people's processes. We

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<v Speaker 5>call it becoming gremlins, and as modern data equivalents, we

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<v Speaker 5>were impostors, trying to spoil the team in some way

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<v Speaker 5>or form so that the teams were prepared to react

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<v Speaker 5>in the case similar events happened on Mars or on

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<v Speaker 5>the way to Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>But testing isn't the only thing he's part of. He's

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<v Speaker 2>also part of another historic team, the Ingenuity Team.

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<v Speaker 11>More than one hundred and sixty million miles from Earth

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<v Speaker 11>and aircraft is sitting on an alien world waiting to

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<v Speaker 11>make history. NASA's Ingenuity helicopter, which traveled to Mars with

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<v Speaker 11>the Perseverance Rover, will soon attempt the first powered flight on.

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<v Speaker 2>Another planet, Aliothis. He and others have been working on

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<v Speaker 2>this for a while now.

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<v Speaker 5>Just about a little bit more than one hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>We're learning how to fly here on Earth. And now

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<v Speaker 5>you know to recognize that we actually took a piece

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 5>of the of the tarp from one of the original

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 5>Wright Brothers vehicles and it lives inside of Ingenuity.

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<v Speaker 2>The Wright Brothers, the fathers of aviation in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>On April nineteenth, Ingenuity became the first aircraft to fly

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<v Speaker 2>on another planet.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope that over the next few years and decades

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<v Speaker 5>will see this new aerial capability be used. Be it

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<v Speaker 5>for a scientific purpose, right, so you equip helicopters or

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 5>drones with scientific instruments and do different kinds of science.

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 5>But also with the eventual human presence on Mars, that

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 5>the humans will be able to bring these scouts right

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 5>to help them navigate the terrain on Mars and map

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 5>their surroundings so that they're more aware of what's around them.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm super excited for what Ingenuity is about to

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<v Speaker 5>teach us on Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>As we mentioned in the very beginning of the episode,

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<v Speaker 2>this recent mission was built off previous ones. Alejandro Miguel

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<v Speaker 2>San Martin is the chief engineer of Guidance and Control

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Section at NASA JPL. He's been with NASA since the eighties.

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<v Speaker 8>Part of the Sign of Perseverance, for example, the spacecraft

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 8>that transport Perseverance from Earth to Mars. He said, the

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 8>sign that we from Mars Pathfinder in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>That mission, Miguel's first on Mars, landed on the red

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>planet on July fourth, nineteen ninety seven, with the rover

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 2>companion named Sojourner.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 12>The small, twenty five pound, six wheeled rover only designed

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 12>to last week, would end up spending eighty three days,

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 12>capturing five hundred and fifty pictures and taking atmospheric measurements

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:24.479
<v Speaker 12>from the planet's surface.

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>He says during that mission they were encouraged to follow

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>their product all across the mission, so from the very

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>initial design to the implementation, to the testing and then

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>flying it. He says at that point he felt like

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 2>he'd be lucky if he was to ever be part

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>of another Mars mission.

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<v Speaker 8>I remember having a conversation with a veteran of JPL

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 8>that was part of the Passfinder. He said that I

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 8>feel sorry for you guys, because you know I'm about

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 8>to retire, so this is a great way to retire.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 8>But you guys will you know in the beginning of

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 8>your career you will never perire is another mission like this?

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<v Speaker 2>His colleague was wrong. Miguel and many of his coworkers

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>would get an opportunity to work on another mission, the

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>landing of twin Rovers, Spirit and Opportunity on Mars in

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>different days of January of two thousand and four. Then,

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>he says, they also used a lot of the same

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 2>designs from the Pathfinder mission.

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<v Speaker 8>And then came Curiosity, where also the same group of

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 8>a team of people that we met in past find

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 8>that we continue evolving and inventing new ways of landing

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 8>on Mars. In the case of Curiosity, because all the

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 8>previous missions that are worked that landed on Mars use airbags,

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 8>so I wanted to work on a mission that landed softly.

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>He and the team created a landing contraption that landed

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 2>the rover like a helicopter. Miguel would go on to

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 2>work on other missions, including the landing of Perseverance.

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<v Speaker 8>It was a new experience for me because in the

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.959
<v Speaker 8>previous missions, first of all, I was part of them.

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<v Speaker 8>In this one in Perseverance that was a consultant. The

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 8>Perseverance team would come to me with questions, you know,

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 8>and during the actual trip to Mars, I was part

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 8>of also of a team that provided regular consultation to

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 8>the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Miguel is originally from Argentina. He was born on a

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 2>family farm in La Patagonia, but grew up and went

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>to school in Buenos Aires. Every winter and summer vacation,

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 2>though he'd go back to the family farm.

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 8>That's where my father taught me about the stars. He

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 8>was a civil engineer and he built roads, dirt roads

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 8>in some cases in the Patagonia, and for that, you know,

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 8>before GPS, they navigated using the stars. So my father

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 8>knew the stars. So at night in the farm he

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 8>would teach me all the constellations and all the stars.

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Miguel began to develop the mind of an engineer.

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<v Speaker 8>I was, you know, fascinated about all the machinery, particularly

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 8>in the arm and the mechanical equipment, and also you know,

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 8>the radios on the TVs, and so at a very

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 8>early age, I wanted to be an engineer.

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 2>And then something that he vividly remembers to this day,

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 2>he saw a man stepping onto the moon for the

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>first time.

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<v Speaker 6>Armstrong is on the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Neil Armstrong, thirty eight year old American, standing on the

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:28.439
<v Speaker 2>surface of the Moon on this July twentieth, nineteen hundred

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 2>and sixty nine.

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 10>One man.

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<v Speaker 2>The Apollo mission had a profound impact on him.

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<v Speaker 8>First of all, I remember being very very aware of

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 8>the risks. Are they really going to do that? I mean,

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 8>it was kind of like hard to believe that they

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 8>were going to attempt such a thing. So it was

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 8>late at night and we were on the with my father,

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 8>my mother, and my sister watching in front of a

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 8>black and white TV. We see Neil Armstrong coming down

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 8>the ladder, and remember that we were, you know, glued

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 8>to the TV, and we just couldn't believe it, right,

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 8>And I looked at my father right that he was

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 8>born like in nineteen eleven, And it was an incredible

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 8>experience for the family.

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Watching Armstrong walk on the Moon sparked Miguel's curiosity and wonder.

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Final confirmation of his love and interest in space would

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 2>come a few years later in nineteen seventy six with

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>NASA's Viking Project.

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 8>And I found myself in the farm actually the day

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 8>of the landing, listening to the BBC on the radio,

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 8>and that night the program says, well, all the systems

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 8>are go, and in a few hours Viking is going

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 8>to land on Mars for the first time, US attempt

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 8>for the first time.

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 2>The next day, in front of a newspaper stand, he

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>saw a photo of the Viking one spacecraft on the

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 2>surface of Mars, and.

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 8>I remember that has a huge impact on me, and

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 8>that's when I said, this is what I want to do.

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 8>I want to be on one of these missions when

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 8>I grow up.

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>His father told him that his best bet would be

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>studying in the US, so when he finished high school,

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 2>he packed his bags and left behind his family, friends

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>and country. He says this was the hardest thing he

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 2>ever had to do. He had to learn English and

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 2>figure out how to get accepted into university, but he

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 2>worked his way through. He made it to Syracuse, where

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>he studied electrical engineering and went on to graduate school

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>at MIT.

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 8>And I remember that I got a little piece of

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 8>paper from one of the administrative persons in the Aeronastro department,

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 8>and my tea said, JPL is coming tomorrow to interview.

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 8>So I showed it up and I talked to the

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 8>engineer doing the interview, and they flew me to JPL,

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.720
<v Speaker 8>and they offered me a job and the rest is history.

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 2>His dad was able to see him go through college

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 2>and get the job at JPL, but unfortunately passed away

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>before Pathfinder made it to Mars.

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:11.439
<v Speaker 8>So that aspect, I'm a little sad that by five

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 8>years or so, for five years he passed away before that.

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 8>So it would have been nice for him to see that,

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 8>because that was when when Mark part found the land.

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 8>That is when I actually I could say, you know,

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 8>I have achieved my goal. I could actually feel that

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.280
<v Speaker 8>all the sacrifice of leaving the country and my family

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 8>and friends paid off or you know, or was worth

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 8>it in some ways.

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 2>But before his father's death, Miguel was able to bring

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 2>both his mom and his dad to visit NASA's JPL.

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 8>He just was blown away, right, I mean, he immediately

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 8>loved the place.

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 2>He says that visit was a turning point for his

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 2>mom too, who through the years had always asked him

0:37:56.280 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 2>in letters from Argentina why did he leave her. After

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 2>that visit, his mom wrote him saying.

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 8>Now I understand why you're there, and I won't ask

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 8>you anymore why did you leave me?

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Despite his long career NASA Miguel doesn't have any plans

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 2>of slowing down. He plans to join an upcoming mission

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 2>to retrieve the samples collected on Mars and hopes to

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>be part of other projects elsewhere.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 8>I mean, Mars is awesome, it's cool, but you know,

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 8>we have other destinations too.

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:34.359
<v Speaker 2>When looking back at his life and career, he says

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>he can't believe how fortunate he's been.

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 8>I wouldn't have been able to do this without the

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 8>support of my family, you know. And it's been a

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 8>long journey. And I never imagined, to be honest, that

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 8>I would be so lucky to fulfill what I wanted

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 8>to do, one beyond my wildest imaginations. And I'm a

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 8>happy person.

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<v Speaker 1>Diana Trujillo, Christina Hernandez, Elio Morigo and Alejandro Miel San

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Martin left some partying and inspirational words for Latinos and

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Latinas and well anyone else who might have a dream

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>of someday pursuing a job at NASA or a career

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>in stem.

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<v Speaker 6>Here they are again, write it down, Write it down

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 6>and remember it, because you can do it. For me

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 6>was to write it down and I'll put it on

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 6>the mirror on my bathroom, and every time I was,

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, brushing my teeth, I will just read the

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 6>thing that I wanted to do. Don't give up your dreams,

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 6>and then keep pushing because it can be done.

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<v Speaker 7>I often think about the words of wisdom that my

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 7>grandmother has told me, and so obviously h L. Ganas,

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 7>but she also told me one that I really hold true.

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 7>She was like, in signet rancheta, you know what that

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 7>is to me? What that means is, you know, be

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 7>self sufficient, you know, get dirty, you know, get in

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 7>there and give it you're all.

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 6>For.

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 7>You know, students who want to come into engineering, be fearless,

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 7>because I think oftentimes we are taught, you know, don't

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 7>stir the pot, don't get in trouble. If you think

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 7>you're going to break it, don't touch it. And here

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.760
<v Speaker 7>I'm trying now to undo all of that past advice,

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 7>and I'm encouraging others to do the same, because the

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 7>more you tinker, the more you fail, you eventually start

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 7>to build your confidence.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I love to tell students and people that want to

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 5>pursue these careers that it's absolutely worth it. It's by

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 5>no means easy.

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 6>This is a very hard career.

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 5>It requires a lot of sacrifice, but you know it's

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 5>it's beautiful and all of that. I just hope to

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 5>inspire a few students, if at all right, to come

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 5>and pursue and join me over here.

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 6>As I tell people, you know.

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 8>Sometimes you get slnely. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>There's not that many Latinos here, and I hope to

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 5>see more in the coming years.

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 8>You need to start working from day one. We are

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 8>not all good in everything, right, so you need to

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 8>understand what is your thing that you're passionate and you're

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 8>good at, and then you just concentrate and do well

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 8>at that moment. You can have a goal of working

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 8>for NASA. That's a good long term goal to have,

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 8>but your short term goal should be do well on

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 8>what you're doing at this moment and be excellent at it,

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 8>and then the doors will open.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we go, we want to give a special

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>shout out to some of the other Latinos and Latinas

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>with fabulous names by the way, who took part in

0:41:55.080 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the Perseverance Mission. So to Danielle Nunez, cloud Out, Ferrol,

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Eric Aguilard, Fernando A. Vigueria, Fernando er Hicks, Erman, Martinez, Ivari,

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Contijojorgue Nunez, Jorge Pla, Garcia, Jos, Antonio Rodriguez, Manfredi, Paul Rugarolas,

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Roxanna Gonzalez, Borgos, Zamalis Santini de Leon, Sandra Nandez, Corrine Rojas,

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Sara Eurex and everyone else involved us Glacias. This episode

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 1>was produced by Renaldo Leanos Junior. It was edited by

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Andrea Lopez Cruzado. It was mixed by Stephanie Lebou. The

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Latino USA team also includes Victoria Estrada, Tori mar Marquez,

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<v Speaker 1>Marta Martinez, Mike sargent Ner, Saudi and Nancy Trujio. Beenille

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<v Speaker 1>Ramirez is our co executive producer. Our senior engineer is

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Caruso. Additional engineering support by Gabriel Lebaiaz and jj Krubin.

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<v Speaker 1>Our marketing manager is Luis Luna. Our theme music was

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<v Speaker 1>composed by Sagner ro Renos. I'm your host and executive

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<v Speaker 1>producer Maria jo Josa. Join us again on our next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, look for us on all of your

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<v Speaker 10>Latino Usa is made possible in part by the John D.

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<v Speaker 10>And Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Ford Foundation, working with

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<v Speaker 10>visionaries on the front lines of social change worldwide, and

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<v Speaker 10>funding for Latino USA is Coverage of a Culture of

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<v Speaker 6>A middle schooler Rowann essay about what the name of

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<v Speaker 6>the March twenty twenty mission should be. He tries to

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<v Speaker 6>make the analogy of human qualities and characteristics of who

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<v Speaker 6>we are with the names spirit, opportunity, curiosity, and then

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<v Speaker 6>I believe he said something along the lines. But if

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<v Speaker 6>those are the qualities of humans, we have missed the

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<v Speaker 6>most important wile, which is perseverance.