WEBVTT - Jay & Radhi Talk About Why People Feel the Need to Overshare

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you have to sit back and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>think before you speak.

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<v Speaker 2>The yappers regret.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I just I'll spill my deepest, darkest secrets just

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<v Speaker 2>because I want to keep the conversation going.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn, I did not need to share that much information sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always told in the monastery that when you

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<v Speaker 1>share something before it's complete, that idea lose its fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of its value.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when something's like at the top of your heart,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like stuck at the top of your throat, and

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<v Speaker 3>all you're waiting to do is burst out and talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I find it really inspiring when someone's opening their heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if someone was vlogging for twenty four hours a day,

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<v Speaker 3>even if someone was telling you every moment that they

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<v Speaker 3>were moving, you can't know their heart and you can't

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<v Speaker 3>know their mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't share anything to try and get someone

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<v Speaker 1>to believe I'm anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I've just come to the conclusion that no one will

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<v Speaker 3>ever Hey, everyone, welcome back to this week's episode of

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<v Speaker 3>On Pap. I wish we had a name for it,

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<v Speaker 3>we do. Welcome back to this week's episode of Conversations

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<v Speaker 3>with Radi on On Purpose we have been having these

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<v Speaker 3>wonderful discussions. That's not the efficient name, but we have

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<v Speaker 3>been having these wonderful conversations based on things our friends

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<v Speaker 3>have told us, things we've been reading, listening to, and

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<v Speaker 3>we realized that these conversations are actually really useful to

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<v Speaker 3>maybe share with people. Me and Jay have them often

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<v Speaker 3>when we're on car journeys together traveling, and one has

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<v Speaker 3>helped create more depth in our conversation, but also some

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<v Speaker 3>of the stuff we come out with, it's pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>in them. So I thought, let's share it. Well, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't think Jay thought let's share it with the world.

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<v Speaker 3>On a fourth episode a week of On Purpose, over to.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Jay, why we suddenly switched to news.

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<v Speaker 3>A news Anka, It's hard not to when you've got

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<v Speaker 3>mic in front of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Is that what you feel like today?

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<v Speaker 3>On today's weather? It's I can you just start?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>So as you're talking about what we want to share,

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<v Speaker 1>today's topic is all about oversharing. Are we oversharing online?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we over sharing with our friends? What is too much?

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<v Speaker 1>What is just enough? What do we do with it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it feels like we don't know who to share

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<v Speaker 1>our life with? How much of our life to share,

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<v Speaker 1>where to share it, and let's dive in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so true. I've really struggled, well, you said online,

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<v Speaker 3>I really struggle with the online sharing situation because on

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<v Speaker 3>one hand, people want to experience your personality, and especially

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<v Speaker 3>as someone who is sharing a lot of content online,

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<v Speaker 3>you also want people to feel like they know your life,

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<v Speaker 3>because otherwise you're just sharing little miniscule parts of it,

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<v Speaker 3>the best parts, which people don't want to see anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>They also want to see the pain. But then when

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<v Speaker 3>I sometimes share that I'm crying and get messages that

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<v Speaker 3>why you are sharing that you're sad? Like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to be sad with you, and so it's such

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting message. Oh yeah, I do, I get like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>your life must be so hard. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 3>do share that you're upset, there's always somebody or people

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<v Speaker 3>who who think you've got no reason to be said,

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<v Speaker 3>so why you cry? And so I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>really difficult balance between. I always used to say I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to share the negative parts of life because

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<v Speaker 3>there's enough negativity in the world, and I'd rather share

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<v Speaker 3>even if I am feeling a certain way. I'd rather

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<v Speaker 3>share even if I have an ounce of happiness, let

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<v Speaker 3>me share that online rather than sharing sadness with people,

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<v Speaker 3>because energy is so contagious that if someone comes online,

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<v Speaker 3>they're already having a bad day. The last thing I

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<v Speaker 3>want is to make their day worse. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was so interesting because I was speaking to my

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<v Speaker 3>friend about this. She's going through probably one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most difficult times in her life right now, going through

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<v Speaker 3>a situation that she never expected herself to be in,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was really struggling with it. You know, when

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<v Speaker 3>something's like at the top of your heart, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>stuck at the top of your throat, and all you're

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<v Speaker 3>waiting to do is burst out and talk about it

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<v Speaker 3>because it's so prominent inside of you. And so what

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<v Speaker 3>she started doing was she had told me, and then

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<v Speaker 3>she started spending time with people, and we had said,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you shouldn't speak about this to other people, but

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<v Speaker 3>when she ended up being around people too much, she

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<v Speaker 3>would end up blesting out or share it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>had a conversation with her about how it's so important

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<v Speaker 3>to protect things that one if you're unsure about, or

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<v Speaker 3>two that are really difficult, because a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>time people don't necessarily have the best desires for you.

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<v Speaker 3>There are very few people in this world who actually

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<v Speaker 3>have deep desire for you to be happy. And so

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<v Speaker 3>when you end up sharing certain things or over sharing things,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it leaks this energy of One, the situation

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<v Speaker 3>gets made bigger because you're constantly speaking about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>therefore even if it was painful, it becomes even more painful.

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<v Speaker 3>Or two, there's this idea in like iv Aiden. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you've spoken about this as well, where when when

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<v Speaker 3>you share too much, you're just leaking energy out of

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<v Speaker 3>that one thing, And you talk about this that I'd

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<v Speaker 3>love for you to share this about when things haven't

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<v Speaker 3>happened yet, and then sharing them before things have happened,

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<v Speaker 3>and the leaking of energy that happens in that. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was speaking to her about it, and I do

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<v Speaker 3>believe that sometimes oversharing or not sharing to the right

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<v Speaker 3>people can be really detrimental to whatever it is that

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it all comes down. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>world will talk about some things we call them over

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<v Speaker 1>sharing because we want to censor it. Sometimes people think

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<v Speaker 1>things are oversharing because they're overly emotional. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have to look back at how this all started. The

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<v Speaker 1>online world was a place people put up pictures, they

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<v Speaker 1>put up food, they put up dances. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>people started sharing highlight reels, and that's what we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We shared our best moments. People then called that out

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<v Speaker 1>and said we want to see the truth, and people

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<v Speaker 1>started sharing vulnerable things. Vulnerability, which is actually quite an

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<v Speaker 1>intimate personal thing, became a very public thing, right. And

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<v Speaker 1>then what's happened is vulnerability, in my opinion, has become performative. Sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not always, not always sometimes, And so now when

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<v Speaker 1>someone's being overly vulnerable and I'm vulnerable online too, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to get it gauges to what's right or

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<v Speaker 1>wrong or where you stand on it, and it all

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to the individual and their intention. If I

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<v Speaker 1>ever share vulnerably online, it's because I believe there's a lesson,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a guiding moment, there's a teaching moment, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>I've gained that I want to share with it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when I choose to do that. I have a boundary

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<v Speaker 1>around it. I have a way of thinking about when

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<v Speaker 1>and why I want to be vulnerable. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>who listen to my podcast regularly do understand who I

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<v Speaker 1>am as a person.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good assessment, though, go on what you just said,

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<v Speaker 3>a good assessment of knowing whether you should be vulnerable

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<v Speaker 3>or not. What is the reason behind you being vulnerable online?

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<v Speaker 3>What is the reason you're sharing yourself crying? What is

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<v Speaker 3>the reason you're sharing this difficult thing that happened. Is

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<v Speaker 3>it because you want someone to be able to relate

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<v Speaker 3>to it be better, which is milful? Is it because

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<v Speaker 3>you want attention? Is it because you want sympathy? Like

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<v Speaker 3>being really clear about what way your vulnerability is coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a really great place of assessment. Sorry to cut

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<v Speaker 3>you off by no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you did. You should know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's better when we're doing that. There was

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<v Speaker 1>this you just said something that hit this. Doctor Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>Hands said, the more people tend to present about themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>the less sympathy they get when things go wrong. People

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<v Speaker 1>they brought it on themselves, and oversharing can lead to

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<v Speaker 1>judgment instead of empathy online especially, And so I agree

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<v Speaker 1>that if I was to ever cry online, I have

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<v Speaker 1>cried in interviews before, which has been very natural. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I was ever to cry online, to share a

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<v Speaker 1>paint point. It would be because I think it could

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<v Speaker 1>help someone, or it's because I would hope someone would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to connect to it and not feel alone.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be my intention. Now I'm not saying that's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that's the best or the right thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. That's just how I see it. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to cry and just break down, I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Just call you, yeah, exactly, take.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, or talk to one of my friends, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I think it would be held the best.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when I started we go cry. I started

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<v Speaker 3>seeing all these pictures or so becoming more conscious of

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that we take so many pictures laughing, but

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<v Speaker 3>we never take pictures of ourselves crying. And I remember

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<v Speaker 3>starting to collect these pictures of whenever I was upset,

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<v Speaker 3>or that i'd sent to my friend or I spoke

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<v Speaker 3>to my friend was going through a difficult time and

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<v Speaker 3>she was like, I'm so upset right now and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel like posting anything online. I was like, send

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<v Speaker 3>me a picture of you crying, Like, send me a

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<v Speaker 3>picture of what's actually happening in this real moment. And

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<v Speaker 3>she always repeats it back to me because now she

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<v Speaker 3>says that she documents and takes pictures of every emotion

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<v Speaker 3>that she's feeling and whenever. Now, I share a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of pictures of me crying online now, just because I

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<v Speaker 3>also want that to be normalized. Of yes, of course

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be crazy if I was crying. In the next second,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm taking a selfie and I'm smiling. That's actually boadline psychotic.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I felt like the necessity of sharing the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that you are upset can be normalized because if

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<v Speaker 3>people if we're trying to create an open platform or

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<v Speaker 3>a place where people can be themselves online, there has

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<v Speaker 3>to be that ability of not having to switch it

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<v Speaker 3>up to a smile straight away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think for you at least, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>correct me if I'm wrong. There was a feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>when people are like, oh, you're always happy, and you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wanted to help people understand that no one

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<v Speaker 1>in the world is always happy, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a great message and is true and people need to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was you know, that's important thing. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a really good cry is based on that, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you get that ability to share your emotions. But

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<v Speaker 1>what's really interesting is that Sociologist Ben Ager says that

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<v Speaker 1>people often reveal more of their inner feelings, opinions, and

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<v Speaker 1>sexuality online than they would in person or even over

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. And I think that's actually because in some

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<v Speaker 1>cases it's easier to be yourself with strangers than it

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<v Speaker 1>is with the people that know you best, because the

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<v Speaker 1>people that know you best, when you share your emotions

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<v Speaker 1>that way, then they're like, wait a minute, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>like this, wait, why are you doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on here? Was?

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<v Speaker 1>When you share it online, you kind of sometimes feel

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<v Speaker 1>heard and scene where a stranger goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for sharing that, And so I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's fair for anyone to say, oh, you shouldn't share

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<v Speaker 1>how you feel online, because that may be where you

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<v Speaker 1>feel safest for some people.

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<v Speaker 3>In an interesting way, can you talk about what you've

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<v Speaker 3>always shared with me, the oversharing thing I was telling,

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<v Speaker 3>the saying about the protecting before you before you speak

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<v Speaker 3>things that haven't happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a spiritual principle.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm writing about it in my third book right now, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's this idea that I was always told in

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<v Speaker 1>the monastery that when you share something before it's complete,

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<v Speaker 1>that idea lose its fifty percent of its value, and

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<v Speaker 1>actually you lose the energy and the discipline to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even carry it through. And so often when you're excited

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<v Speaker 1>about something, you just blurt it out and then you

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<v Speaker 1>never get around to doing it because in some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>you've already enjoyed the moment of sharing.

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<v Speaker 2>The success of it, and you've.

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<v Speaker 1>Already gained the validation for it, and so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel it anymore. Whereas when you keep something private and

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<v Speaker 1>you build it and then you put it out into

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<v Speaker 1>the world, it has a much better reaction for you

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because you used all that energy to complete

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<v Speaker 1>the task. And that's what it's all about. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>about whether it gets validation or praise. It's about are

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<v Speaker 1>you losing energy by talking about this thing to everyone?

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<v Speaker 1>And so the way I've changed it is I talk

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<v Speaker 1>to people who can actually give me insight or impact

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<v Speaker 1>on that thing. So if someone can give me an idea,

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<v Speaker 1>someone can help me with it, I'll share it with them.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they can't, then I probably won't. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I found that to be true for me, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really helped me in my life. I like building things

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<v Speaker 1>in private and then launching them in public than talking

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<v Speaker 1>about something in public forever and then putting it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I may not even get around putting it out there.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's a weird line between like telling people things

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<v Speaker 3>for accountability and then overshare, because sometimes you want to

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<v Speaker 3>tell people that I'm trying to get to this goal,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I'm telling you because I really want

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure I get there. But then I have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I completely relate to the telling everybody everything,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you kind of lose the energy or the

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<v Speaker 3>will to even get there because you've already enjoyed. They

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<v Speaker 3>say that you enjoyed the success in your mind already,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's almost like your your mind doesn't know the

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<v Speaker 3>difference between actually actually completing something and when you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it, because the same hormones or the same chemicals

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<v Speaker 3>are released in your brain. So when you've already technically

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<v Speaker 3>succeeded by talking about it, you have less motivation to

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<v Speaker 3>complete it afterwards. Yes, so that's I guess. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's the only thing I actually read something. I actually

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<v Speaker 3>came across this, I think this morning on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 3>I had saved it. Yeah, this is why oversharing drains

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<v Speaker 3>your aura, according to Irada, and so if you ever

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<v Speaker 3>felt off after a deep shit online or with someone

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<v Speaker 3>who didn't feel safe, Iraida says, it's your aura and

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<v Speaker 3>your energetic boundary getting weakened. And so it basically talks

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<v Speaker 3>about how now when you end up sharing sacred parts

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<v Speaker 3>of yourself with people who haven't earned it, or whether

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<v Speaker 3>you're venting too much on social media or explaining your

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<v Speaker 3>life constantly or seeking constant external validation. The fact is

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<v Speaker 3>that every single word carries intentionality, and when you end

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<v Speaker 3>up sharing words over and over again, they lose their intentionality,

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<v Speaker 3>they lose their power, they lose their energy, and that

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<v Speaker 3>it scatters your energy all over the place, rather than

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<v Speaker 3>being focused on trying to actually fix the problem, it

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<v Speaker 3>just scatters you. And I have noticed that I do

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<v Speaker 3>think that there's this power of when you end up

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<v Speaker 3>talking about things too much, it drains you, and it

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<v Speaker 3>drains the problem too, or it drains the excitement of something.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is a draining practice to continuously keep talking.

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<v Speaker 3>But on the other hand, I have noticed that when

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<v Speaker 3>you're in social situations, I used to do this to

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<v Speaker 3>try and fill gaps. I would overshare things, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would talk about things unnecessarily or say things that really

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<v Speaker 3>don't need to be talked about in this situation, but

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<v Speaker 3>to try and create a closeness. That's why oversharing is

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes used in between people is let me tell you

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<v Speaker 3>everything about my life so we feel close straight away.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a false closeness that you can create and

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<v Speaker 3>a way to show a way to make people trust

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<v Speaker 3>you because I'm going to tell you I'm an open book.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell you everything about my life. One

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<v Speaker 3>because hopefully it makes you like me more, two because

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<v Speaker 3>now you can be vulnerable with me. And three now

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<v Speaker 3>it makes you feel like you're my best friend and

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<v Speaker 3>it creates as connection as fast as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's really important to know when to

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<v Speaker 3>share things and who to share things with, because if

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<v Speaker 3>they're not ready for it, and if they don't know

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<v Speaker 3>you well enough, it's so much harder to receive that information.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I love that point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that you actually end up being more

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<v Speaker 1>confused because you've now told thirty people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so a lot of people. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have a group chat and you tell

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<v Speaker 1>thirty people who you're dating what they said to you

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<v Speaker 1>and you're saying, what should I say back? Yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you ask thirty people, how are you going to pro

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<v Speaker 1>sss thirty people's backgrounds, walks of life, advice, insight, No

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<v Speaker 1>wonder you feel lost and confused because you're asking thirty

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<v Speaker 1>people in the group chat how to respond, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're asking someone else when you meet them and then

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you said about draining the problem. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think one of the biggest things with oversharing now though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's also different on different platforms and so

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and TikTok, because it's actually generally your face

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<v Speaker 1>and your name. It's different where I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people who find people sharing their stories of miscarriages,

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<v Speaker 1>IVF breakups on Reddit is actually really helpful for them

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<v Speaker 1>because they're reading about other people's anonymous experiences. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>something we get from anonymous oversharinge because the person can

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<v Speaker 1>tell everything about their life because it's not their name.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels a bit more authentic, I guess as well,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know that they're not doing it for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>They're sharing anonymously, which means that there must be some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of tooth shore it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that being totally themselves because they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything to gain, and so many people can turn to

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<v Speaker 1>that and be like, oh my god, that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going through, and that's exactly what I'm experiencing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is the same even for someone on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram who's going through Like I follow plenty of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are sharing their healing journeys, whether it's their health,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a challenge they've went through. I find it

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<v Speaker 1>so inspiring, so I rarely see something as oversharing from

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<v Speaker 1>a consumer point of view. I find it really inspiring

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<v Speaker 1>when someone's opening their heart, and I find it really

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<v Speaker 1>amazing for the world that people can do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it only makes the person who's sharing happy if

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<v Speaker 1>their intention is not attention and validation. That's how I

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. When I see someone, I see bravery,

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<v Speaker 1>I see courage, I see in a big heart. But

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<v Speaker 1>for them it will only fulfill them if it's done

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<v Speaker 1>from the intention of I want to serve, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to help, I want to support, I want to share,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not doing it for attention and validation.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that you know, we talk about this

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, where you really have to be careful about

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<v Speaker 3>who you tell what to. And in that sense, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't talk about that many wins that we have with

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<v Speaker 3>too many people, or even pain points even about a relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there are certain things that you keep private

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<v Speaker 3>versus sharing it with people or being really mindful about

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<v Speaker 3>who you share what with. Do you think other people's

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<v Speaker 3>energy can affect the things that you are thinking about

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<v Speaker 3>or doing in your life if you share it with

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's some sort of magic pocus pocus thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's truly just their thoughts can affect you.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, let's say you want to start something right

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<v Speaker 1>and I was guilty of this a few months ago

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<v Speaker 1>with us, and you kindly called me out about it

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<v Speaker 1>in a good way. You shared an idea with me

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<v Speaker 1>about something and we were just messaging about it. My

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<v Speaker 1>initial response was, yeah, we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, And you were like, wait a minute, can you

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<v Speaker 1>just let me share my idea?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And you said it in a really nice way, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got the message, and I felt really bad about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was wrong. But my point is my energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Did affect it.

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<v Speaker 1>It. I closed something down when I shouldn't have. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really good example. So let's say someone's listening

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<v Speaker 1>right now and they're like, you've got an idea to

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<v Speaker 1>start a YouTube channel or a podcast, or you want

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<v Speaker 1>to write a book, and you go and tell all

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<v Speaker 1>your friends, and then all your friends go, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you starting a podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, you know, there's like a million podcasts now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a hocus focus. That energy affects you. You

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<v Speaker 1>hear that and you go, yeah, maybe I shouldn't start it.

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<v Speaker 1>So true, So all of a sudden, that energy has

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<v Speaker 1>affected you. Now, if you had shared it with a podcaster,

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<v Speaker 1>that podcast would have said to you, oh, great, what

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<v Speaker 1>genre is it? What kind of podcast do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do? And you're like, yeah, it's all about relationships

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all about connection, And then you could have

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<v Speaker 1>asked them a question. They would have said, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what you need to do. Makes you do one

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<v Speaker 1>episode a week, make sure that you are really authentic

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<v Speaker 1>and be yourself, and make sure that you're consistent because

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<v Speaker 1>something like ninety seven percent of podcast don't make it

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<v Speaker 1>past episode two or three. Right now, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>that person who's already done what you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>is actually helping you, whereas someone who hasn't done what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do is draining you. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is important because energy does impact you and

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<v Speaker 1>affect you, and someone who's already done what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is more likely to encourage you, where someone

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<v Speaker 1>who hasn't done it is more likely to discourage you

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<v Speaker 1>because they may not understand, they think it's hard, or

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<v Speaker 1>they think it's complicated.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think people are happier when they're sharing more

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<v Speaker 3>or do you think actually, oh, I'll ask you for yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>When you made the decision to keep a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>your own life private and be mindful about what you're sharing,

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<v Speaker 3>did that bring more peace and clarity and confidence in

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<v Speaker 3>what you're doing or did you feel like you're missing

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<v Speaker 3>out on Did you feel a bit lonely without sharing things?

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<v Speaker 1>I think people online and I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>the same questions about these are great questions. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we started to equate vulnerability with authenticity online.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So I, no, no, no, it's it's we're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>if you share stuff about your life, then you're off authentic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't share stuff about your life.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not authentic.

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<v Speaker 1>My take is authenticity is sharing the right thing with

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<v Speaker 1>the right person at the right time. That's actually authentic.

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<v Speaker 1>Right If I just found out that a family member

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<v Speaker 1>was ill just today, I wouldn't tell everyone on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>not because I'm being inauthentic, but the first person a

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<v Speaker 1>call would be my family member exactly. So that's not

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<v Speaker 1>an inauthentic act. It's actually the most authentic act. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think we shouldn't fall for this trap where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not fully vulnerable online all the time, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're inauthentic. Actually being authentic is being intentional and selective.

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<v Speaker 1>In my that's my definition for it. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>very happy knowing what I share with you, what I

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<v Speaker 1>share with my best friends, what I share with my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and then what I share online. Am I sharing my

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<v Speaker 1>truth online?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course i am? Am I sharing my heart online?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there things that are private that need to be

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<v Speaker 1>kept between me and my mum, or me and you,

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<v Speaker 1>or me and my best friends. Of course there are,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's reality, And I don't think that makes someone inauthentic.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it actually makes someone real because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same as saying, if you're do you go into your

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<v Speaker 1>workplace because social media is our workplace. Ye, you go

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<v Speaker 1>into your workplace, stand up on your desk and tell

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in your office everything about everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And you would never do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't hijack the company's zoom call and say, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I just need everyone to know right now that this

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<v Speaker 1>is what's going on in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>You would just never do that. It's not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>But online we assume that that is the normal. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it's bad if you do that. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying that for me, that's not authenticity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I've really struggled with that. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I've always gone between, Oh, I just want to keep

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 3>everything private now because everyone's opinions and everyone's thoughts and

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.200
<v Speaker 3>things are too much, and then back to, oh, maybe

0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:52.320
<v Speaker 3>I should be showing because me not talking about this

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 3>seems like I'm really happy, but actually I've got this

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.120
<v Speaker 3>going on in my life and my grandma's not well

0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.879
<v Speaker 3>and whatever. Maybe I should be sharing because I'm sharing

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.840
<v Speaker 3>smiles and happiness all online, but there's another part of

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:04.960
<v Speaker 3>my life that's happening. And then I've just come to

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 3>the conclusion that no one will ever understand the duality

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.879
<v Speaker 3>in people's lives, and I think that's just my conclusion

0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:12.960
<v Speaker 3>is of having gone through the ups and downs of

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:17.680
<v Speaker 3>sharing or not sharing, and even sharing within within friendship circles,

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I think, actually I don't share much with my friends,

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<v Speaker 3>or very selective about what I speak to, who I

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.600
<v Speaker 3>speak to about what, and it's made me so much

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:31.800
<v Speaker 3>happier because it's also allowed me to be so much

0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 3>more reflective in my own life. I think I was

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<v Speaker 3>so used to outsourcing my uncertainty with other people's opinions

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 3>and making decisions based on that that now the more

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:47.159
<v Speaker 3>that I feel comfortable with answering my own questions solving

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 3>my own problems, the less I've got this need to

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.280
<v Speaker 3>speak to so many people about so many things happening

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 3>in my life. And I actually do feel so much

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.199
<v Speaker 3>happier in that. I think the only part I struggle with,

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 3>which you know, is being misunderstood online, and I think

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 3>that's something that I am forever working on, because I

0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.120
<v Speaker 3>think I go through these bouts of sharing and then

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 3>not sharing and trying to find that in between. But

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 3>what you said about the work situation that makes sense

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 3>to you just stand up and shout when you're having

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 3>a bad day in your office, you don't. You don't

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.640
<v Speaker 3>do that. And so I think it goes back to intentionality.

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Am I sharing this for a good reason? Or am

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 3>I sharing this to try and prove myself which I've

0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 3>done before, or get people to try and understand me,

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 3>which is impossible. I actually sent a voice note to

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 3>my friend this morning, our friend this morning, because she

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 3>was saying, how you know her ex boyfriend's friends don't

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 3>like her because of stuff that he said. And I said, look,

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 3>they're all going to always be people who no matter

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 3>what you do or say, if they've wanted to dislike you,

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.199
<v Speaker 3>no matter how much you tell them about yourself, no

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:53.879
<v Speaker 3>matter how much you're trying and convince them that you

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 3>are amazing, if they have already wanted to dislike you,

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 3>they'll have found any one word, a breath that you've

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 3>taken that they don't like. But if they want to

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 3>be rooting for you, and if they want to see

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 3>good in you, and if they want to love you,

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 3>everything that you say, they'll give you benefit of doubt

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 3>everything you say, they'll give you grace. And I wrote

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 3>about this in my notes the other week. I was

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 3>thinking imagine how nice it would be if people just

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 3>gave people grace, whether they're oversharing, whether they're not sharing enough.

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I just think everybody is going through duality and

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:24.719
<v Speaker 3>so much in their life that it's impossible to know

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 3>the depths of someone. Even if someone was vlogging for

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 3>twenty four hours a day, even if someone was telling

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 3>you every moment that they were moving, you can't know

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 3>their heart and you can't know their mind, and so

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 3>it's impossible to know someone that deeply. And the sharing,

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 3>not sharing or oversharing, I think also comes comes with

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.679
<v Speaker 3>how you're feeling in the moment, in the day, in

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 3>your life, depending what's happening.

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love what you're saying. I think we've created

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 1>such a judgmental, critical world. And it's almost like if

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>you walked into a movie theater and you watch three

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>minutes of a movie, and then you walked out, and

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 1>then you walked into another movie for three minutes, then

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.439
<v Speaker 1>you walked out, and you walked into another movie for

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>three minutes. That's what we do on social media. That's

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.199
<v Speaker 1>so true, right, you don't ever see the full picture,

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>So no one has listened to every episode I've ever

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>recorded on any platform I've ever been on. It would

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>be my full picture.

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.120
<v Speaker 3>You never talk about purpose, yes.

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Or yeah exactly, or you never talk about this or

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's like, but that's how we'd feel if

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 1>we walked into movie for three minutes and walked out.

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>So you can only truly have an opinion on something

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>when you.

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Understand it fully.

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you can have an opinion on anything, to be honest,

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>but you can only truly have an assessment of something, yes,

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>if you understand it fully. And today most of us

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>make big assessments on small amounts of information huge.

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:49.439
<v Speaker 2>And we all do it.

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I do it too, And that's why it's so important

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:54.439
<v Speaker 1>to remind each other of that and what you were

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>saying where you know, I remember a few years back

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>because people were like, oh generally I never together anymore.

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're breaking up, Like maybe you know all this

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>for months? Yeah, yeah, and it's like, no, we travel

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot for work, We do spend time apart every

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:15.959
<v Speaker 1>year consciously intentionally planned. But if you don't know us,

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and you're not you don't know our relationship, your assessment

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 1>of it is completely inaccurate.

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so this idea of like, oh.

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're breaking up or did you know they don't

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>live together anymore? And it's like, well, no, Rather, he

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 1>was in London and I was in la which are

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 1>two places that we live in. Like you know, it's

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's so basic. But and I don't come out

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and defend or talk about these things or make it

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously because to me, it's not worth it, it's not enough.

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>But it's important to help people realize that. That's why

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>people don't overshare, or that's why they do overshare. And

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>so my thing is very clear. I really don't share

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>anything to try and get someone to believe I'm anything.

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you really don't, you're.

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>So happy with whatever judgment and just.

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 3>Say something about this. I really don't need to. I

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 3>don't need so at peace with it, it's so good.

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's not that I'm fully at peace with it.

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably like figuring out. Yeah, it's not like I'm

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>beyond it. I'm figuring out internally. But what I've realized

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 1>is my intentions really clear. That's what I'm focused on

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>because I can't change It's what you just said. So well,

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it's if someone doesn't like me, no matter what I do,

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>they'll still not like me, And if someone loves me,

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>no matter what I do, they'll still love me. And

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that's how we make decisions in life. And so I

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>don't want to convince someone to change their mind about me. Yeah,

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.959
<v Speaker 1>if someone thinks I'm x y Z, that's okay, because

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to waste my life explaining myself.

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I just want to accept that this is where I am.

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.600
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0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:54.240
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<v Speaker 3>You know where I found sharing recently has been really useful.

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask you that itally, Yeah, where

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 2>is it?

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Where it's been really useful? So I And again this

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 3>is based on relationship stuff. But one of my friends

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 3>was really struggling in her relationship and we were speaking

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 3>about all the people that we know in our families,

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 3>everyone that we're really close to that she also knows

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 3>that I know. And I was saying, you know, it's

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 3>really normal if you've been in a relationship for X

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 3>amount of time to go through phases that are really difficult.

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 3>You do know that this person in our family has

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 3>been through it, this person in our friendship circle has

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 3>been through it, this person has been through this. These

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 3>people have gone to couples therapy. Me and Jay have

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 3>gone the readly. We've got times we've found it it's

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 3>hard to even have conversations with each other. We've been

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 3>through so many ups and downs. She said, I had

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 3>no idea. What do you mean. I had no idea

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 3>that was normal. I've seen all of you and none

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 3>of that makes any sense. I was like, yeah, these

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 3>people were the verge of breaking up and they literally

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 3>had to spend so much a year trying to reconnect.

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 3>She was like, no way. And I told her all

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 3>of that to make her realize how normal the phases

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 3>she was going through in her relationship were. But I

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 3>found that so useful because even within relationships, obviously you

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 3>have the pictures at events, and you have all these

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 3>little things that you can share and we're talking about online,

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 3>but even within within close family groups or close friendship groups,

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>you will not even know what's happening and realize that

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 3>actually they're going through the same thing as you are,

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 3>and it makes you feel so okay about your situation

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 3>when you realize you're not the only one. And so

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I think having those that conversation with my friend was

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 3>so important because one, it humanized everyone and it wasn't

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 3>just the rosy relationships that she too. I don't know

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 3>anybody who hasn't gone through stuff in their relationship. And

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 3>then three, I think sharing it online for a lot

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 3>of people who are public figures or not even public

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 3>figures sharing it with their communities. Let's say, the time

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 3>it becomes difficult is when people take one thing and

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 3>make it into something huge even though they've been through it.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 3>So like me saying okay, we found it really difficult before,

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 3>someone may say, oh my gosh, they found it difficult,

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 3>not realizing that they've had such difficult times in their

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.479
<v Speaker 3>relationship too. And so I think the judgment ends up

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 3>going towards people even when we've created that experience or

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 3>had that experience in our life. But I think sharing

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 3>in that way has been so useful, even between me

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 3>and my best friend. Now, when I say things that

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 3>I've been through she's like, I would have never thought

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 3>that that was you. And she's like, oh, I went

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 3>through that too, and I can't believe we're the same.

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 3>And we've had that in common even though we're such

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 3>different people. And I think being more open about things

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 3>like that, especially in our community, because especially I don't know,

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, wherever you whichever community are, and I'm sure

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 3>it's quite similar, but painting rosy pictures about family relationships,

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 3>about partner relationships, about all these things, it's so easy

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 3>to paint in a rosy picture, and it helps no

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 3>one because then everyone thinks they're the odd one now

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 3>when they're going through the same thing that you are.

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 3>So that I found really useful recently after being around

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 3>my friends and family here.

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's one of the reasons why, you know,

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>if anyone ever watched the history of our conversations we've

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>had online, yeah, them, we'll focus on challenges we've had.

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably, And.

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>That's where I've felt sharing is really helpful. Is my

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>intention is to show that we're all in the same boat.

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No one's example.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all on the same page.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter how enlightened or perfect or illuminated you feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone is we're all in the same boat and we're

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<v Speaker 1>all struggling. And that is when I think sharing is

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<v Speaker 1>really important, and that's what I choose to share. I

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<v Speaker 1>choose to share my challenges. I choose to share things

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm stressed about.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you're like that even with your friends, not even

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<v Speaker 3>just this is even in a public forum. I hear

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<v Speaker 3>you speak to your friends about the real I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh wow, I didn't think it was going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about that, or didn't think you would share that with

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<v Speaker 3>that person, but you really do to help them also

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<v Speaker 3>open up back to.

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<v Speaker 1>You, and also just because I also want them to

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<v Speaker 1>know that that's the real expression that everyone has.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's you being honest with yourself in that moment too,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it. I think we can get so covered up

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<v Speaker 3>by the fake realities we create in our own mind

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<v Speaker 3>of trying to be okay in front of other people

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<v Speaker 3>that share that, you end up sharing this false version

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<v Speaker 3>of yourself and then you come away from that conversation

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<v Speaker 3>and even though you think you've been vulnerable, you've actually

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<v Speaker 3>been false vulnerable because that's not actually how you feel.

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<v Speaker 3>You haven't actually shared anything exactly, and so you haven't

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<v Speaker 3>actually built a connection to anyone. I always think that's

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<v Speaker 3>why I find difficult when you know, people catch pictures

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<v Speaker 3>of celebrities fighting and they put up pictures of it

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. It's like, have we not all had a

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<v Speaker 3>moment where we've slammed the door? Have we all had

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<v Speaker 3>a moment where we've walked out of a restaurant because

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<v Speaker 3>we've had an argument, we were a little bit upset.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think that I always feel so sad

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<v Speaker 3>for people when I see stuff like that, because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had those moments or showing up, I've slammed the

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<v Speaker 3>door in the car and I've left before, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you don't have a clue what was happening anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone's resting face is just not smiley.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so someone.

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<v Speaker 3>Whenever I'm on my phone and you're like are you okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like writing a message and it's literally me

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<v Speaker 3>just on Aesos ordering some clothes and I'm literally just concentrating.

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<v Speaker 3>But if someone saw me doing that in public, fine with.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody, yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's I think that's what it is, is that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't make big assessments and judgments with small information

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<v Speaker 1>and it would just make your life more peaceful and easier.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the takeaway I want people to have is

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<v Speaker 1>that whether you have a life that is online or

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's your offline life, it's almost like the same

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<v Speaker 1>principles apply. Who do you want to share this with,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you trying to share, and most importantly, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you sharing it? What's your intention? And if your

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<v Speaker 1>intention is to make others feel less alone, if your

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<v Speaker 1>intention is to share something so that you've loved in case.

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<v Speaker 3>Help people through what they're going frock and.

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<v Speaker 1>Help yourself, these are all beautiful things. And no one

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you whether you're oversharing or overexposed. Only you

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<v Speaker 1>get to decide that even if everyone goes, oh, you're oversharing,

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to share it, as long as your intentions

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<v Speaker 1>in the right place. And don't ever feel pressured into

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that you have to be vulnerable to be authentic,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's authentic to be vulnerable when you want to

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not authentic to just be vulnerable anytime, any

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<v Speaker 1>place with everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think i'd also add that sharing is

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<v Speaker 3>similar with your words, is similar to sharing emotion in

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<v Speaker 3>the sense that you're not supposed to hold everything inside,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not supposed to all live in your head either,

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think part of experiencing life, and part

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<v Speaker 3>of experiencing emotions, and part of experiencing pain and happiness,

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<v Speaker 3>a big part of it is the sharing aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a notion of you experience something and then

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<v Speaker 3>you share it. You learn something and then you share it,

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<v Speaker 3>And so we're not supposed to just keep everything inside

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<v Speaker 3>of us. There is supposed to be this action of

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<v Speaker 3>receiving whatever the whatever it is, pain, knowledge, information, and

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<v Speaker 3>then giving it out to other people. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>we're built to be in communities and sharing is a

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<v Speaker 3>big part of that, and being honest with yourself a

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<v Speaker 3>big part of that is also sharing. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's something really important to remember that we have to

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<v Speaker 3>learn to take what's in our mind and be able

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<v Speaker 3>to say it out loud to really sometimes get the

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<v Speaker 3>depth or the weight of what is inside of us.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, keep sharing, people, keep sharing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for listening and watching everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you share your comments, your ideas, your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>in the comment section, and of course share this episode

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<v Speaker 1>with anyone else that.

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<v Speaker 3>You think is Can you know what overshare It overshare

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<v Speaker 3>this episode. Yeah, okay, by hey everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love that conversation, go and check out my

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<v Speaker 1>episode with the world's leading therapist, Laurie Gottlieb, where she

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<v Speaker 1>answers the biggest questions that people ask in therapy when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to love, relationships, heartbreak, and dating. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out that space right now, you won't

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<v Speaker 1>want to miss this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's a romantic relationship, hold hands. It's really hard

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<v Speaker 3>to argue. It actually calms your nervous systems.

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<v Speaker 2>Just hold hands as you're having the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so lovely.