Speaker 1: That is Steve Lacy Bad Habit one or two point
Speaker 1: seven kissp Fan. So going back a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: we were talking to the Copos sisters here about their
Speaker 1: new show, The Copos Sisters, and it's on TLC, and
Speaker 1: we had you guys on. Nice to see Arora Copo
Speaker 1: is back with us now and we had you guys
Speaker 1: on and I get it, like I see you sister together,
Speaker 1: I hear some of the history, um, and I get it.
Speaker 1: Then Tania comes to the show maybe the next day,
Speaker 1: two days later, and she does this thing she calls
Speaker 1: a trending report, and she's talking about you and the
Speaker 1: trending report and she says that you made a one
Speaker 1: year deal with I guess you're now ex husband where
Speaker 1: you are or could have a random hook up once
Speaker 1: a year you or he? No, no, no no, he just
Speaker 1: you made that deal. Yeah. So this was a deal
Speaker 1: I made when I was twenty five. I met my
Speaker 1: my ex husband when he was forty. I was twenty five, Okay,
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of growth that happened in the meantime.
Speaker 1: You know, I had kids and and at that time
Speaker 1: I was really I was trying to make this work.
Speaker 1: I was like I think I have in my mind.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got five years left to get the
Speaker 1: kid thing done and to just be that's what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do, right, You're supposed to have it all
Speaker 1: wrapped up in a bow when you're thirty. And to me,
Speaker 1: objectively speaking, I don't really think the sex with somebody
Speaker 1: else once a year. It wasn't intimidating to me because
Speaker 1: I was like, what we have is so special. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it turns out like fast forward eight years later and
Speaker 1: I don't have the same feelings as I did then.
Speaker 1: So it was fascinating to me because she brought up
Speaker 1: and you weren't there, and she, you know, two days later,
Speaker 1: like White, we could have asked her about this when
Speaker 1: it was in the episode. I didn't know. But it
Speaker 1: was interesting because you know, we talked about all these
Speaker 1: kinds of things on our show a lot. Susan, he
Speaker 1: has Mary been married for a long time. Tanya is
Speaker 1: probably closest to be engaged. I have a significant other girlfriend,
Speaker 1: and so we were hearing that thinking, Okay, well, wow,
Speaker 1: that takes a lot of confidence in a relationship and
Speaker 1: it's also a slippery slope. Yeah, so at the time,
Speaker 1: I kind of thought I was more evolved. People think
Speaker 1: that this was something that was made by a very insecure,
Speaker 1: broken person. I'm not really sure that I'm that. I
Speaker 1: believe that at that time I had so much confidence
Speaker 1: in our relationship that I didn't think that this impulse
Speaker 1: that a man has to sleep with somebody else and
Speaker 1: spread his seed far and wide whatever, like from you know,
Speaker 1: from from the Neanderthal times. I wasn't intimidated by that impulse.
Speaker 1: And what I cared about mostly was that he felt
Speaker 1: like he could be honest and that he was getting
Speaker 1: all of his needs met. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: that that can't work for some people. I just know
Speaker 1: that right now it doesn't work for me anymore. UM.
Speaker 1: And it's not the reason why we got divorced at all, actually, UM.
Speaker 1: It just is one of the many things that we've
Speaker 1: learned have has diverged in our in our values, um
Speaker 1: with each other since. So let me ask you this
Speaker 1: or a coup on with us the Corporal Sisters, Monday's
Speaker 1: nine o'clock on TLC. As an unmarried person unmarried married,
Speaker 1: how do you look at marriage differently now that you've
Speaker 1: done it once? Oh? I don't need to be quite
Speaker 1: honest with you. I don't really know how I feel
Speaker 1: about the institution of marriage, to be honest, I think
Speaker 1: that we have multiple soul mates. I think that we
Speaker 1: have soul contracts with people. I think that there's a
Speaker 1: certain amount of time that you can learn what you
Speaker 1: need to learn in order to grow and become the
Speaker 1: best version of yourself. And then it's actually an obligation
Speaker 1: and a responsibility to know when that's over and to
Speaker 1: know when it's time to move on. And I know
Speaker 1: that my parents are not gonna be happy about that,
Speaker 1: and they're of the notions stay together to the kids,
Speaker 1: it's not for it, not about you. But um, but
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that, says you bench the Coulpo's
Speaker 1: sisters right when she when you're out the other day,
Speaker 1: I know, I was just recovered from COVID and I
Speaker 1: got to tell you the show is incredible. You guys
Speaker 1: are so honest, and I wanted to tell you that
Speaker 1: your strength by sharing what you're going through on this show,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna help so many women in that
Speaker 1: may be going through similar situations that are going to
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, we battling divorced or are becoming
Speaker 1: single moms and things like that, And I just think
Speaker 1: that it shows a lot of courage on your front. Oh,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I feel like I went back and forth.
Speaker 1: It's it's a fine line between exploiting, you know, a
Speaker 1: divorce and using this as an opportunity to show people
Speaker 1: that you don't need to be ashamed of the choices
Speaker 1: that you made, that that people don't understand, and that
Speaker 1: you've out grown up. I know, but I also think
Speaker 1: too the thing that's so interesting is you were saying,
Speaker 1: like your frame of mind at twenty five was like
Speaker 1: you have to have everything wrapped up in a bow
Speaker 1: and done by thirty and I think so many of
Speaker 1: us have that same mentality, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I feel like at thirty five, I'm so behind
Speaker 1: because I haven't frozen my eggs and I haven't done
Speaker 1: all these things. And I think it's just like there's
Speaker 1: this expectation of society puts on us, and like we
Speaker 1: are kind of put in these situations that maybe we
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily be and how do we just been free
Speaker 1: and like living our own truth? And so I think
Speaker 1: it's really cool that you kind of share that because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us have those feelings totally.
Speaker 1: My sisters always joked like, we just see what Aurora does.
Speaker 1: We do the opposite, because I made all the mistakes first.
Speaker 1: And it's true when I was thirty and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm I have my kids, I'm married. It's like I
Speaker 1: was kind of feeling bad for my friends who were
Speaker 1: single that that now are probably feeling bad for me.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh loo because it's divorced women with two kids.
Speaker 1: But the point is that, like, you don't have to
Speaker 1: feel bad. It's everyone's journey is exactly what they need
Speaker 1: at that time. And and I'm I'm you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't make anything easier. Change is hard, and and I
Speaker 1: feel bad for the people who haven't found their person
Speaker 1: yet and really want to be in a relationship with kids.
Speaker 1: But if there's one thing I've learned is it's not
Speaker 1: up to us. The timing is not up to us.
Speaker 1: And when you try to force it is when um,
Speaker 1: it doesn't go the problems don't go anywhere. It's like
Speaker 1: all the things that I that like, we're kind of
Speaker 1: red flags. In the beginning, I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: just like make it work this way, and then it's
Speaker 1: like they don't go anywhere, they just get worser. They
Speaker 1: come up later in a different way. And that's what
Speaker 1: happened with us. It's a good relationship therapy, isn't it
Speaker 1: really ship therapy? And this show is so funny. Your parents,
Speaker 1: as old school as they are, when it comes to
Speaker 1: like how they believe in marriage and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: they are so genuine and like the fact, like your
Speaker 1: mom has never like worn makeup in her entire life.
Speaker 1: Like I just I love everything about it. You guys
Speaker 1: are so real. It's really good. Thank you my mom,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. She's like, well, I never had to
Speaker 1: go to therapy. I was just lucky, you know, we
Speaker 1: never did that. We don't have problem. How long have
Speaker 1: they been married. They've been married for eighteen years or twenty.
Speaker 1: I don't even I should know. I know, I do
Speaker 1: not care. In my opinion, just way too long. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on and talking about it. Congratulations on
Speaker 1: the show. Auroral cop A couple of sisters on Monday's
Speaker 1: not all TLC take a care tell the others. We say, hi, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. I like her.
Speaker 1: She's very comfortable in her own skin, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it seems like she's at peace. Yeah, we're a couple
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