WEBVTT - Episode 89 w/ LL Cool J 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.880 And his Drink Chess motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rapper. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.279 He's agreed, is your boy in o R. He's a 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.159 Miami hip hop pioneer. One up his d J e 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.639 f N. Together they drinking up with some of the 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:29.960 biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:34.200 number one source for drunk fast drinks motherfuckings New Year's 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:44.520 e that his time for drink Champs, drink up, mother Mother. Hey, 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.800 Hank san Gria, Hope your Sava, it's your boy and 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.840 dot oh dot r dot E one of his DJ 0:00:52.040 --> 0:01:02.640 e FN and his drink Chats motherfucking podcast. Something Right now, 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.160 we have what I would like to call the King 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.120 of hip hop, what I would like to call the 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:14.280 King of alternate. What I mean by that is after 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:18.920 your career has been done, He's the person who put 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.840 out the blueprint for what you're supposed to do after 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:30.560 your robs. This motherfucker is the King of Queens. I'm 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.920 saying it. I'm from Queens. I feel like I have 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.800 the authority. Is the King of Queens, the King of 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.720 New York, the King of hip hop. First artist ever 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:45.080 signed to Deaf Jam Rackets which means that I might 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:49.920 have not existed if it wasn't for this one A 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:57.640 lot of this real ship. And right now we got 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:01.400 the god father. I might, I might just call him 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:09.880 the father a motherfucking queens, New York and everything else 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:18.639 we got, and the motherfucker appreciate that. L Listen, Can 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.040 I call you? Of course in my mind and my 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:22.880 mind always call your uncle El in my mind. I 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.400 don't know why. I like even when you say with 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.240 something to me, I'd be like, you know, like I 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.680 just I got so much respect for you, thank you, 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.600 not for you. And then and then you came to 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.839 my hood though, remember came to my hod. It made 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:40.600 me like And then run DMC came to and Diggie 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.160 Simmons came, and then Dickie Simmons he's he's smashing all 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:49.960 the little girls in my hood now. But you're putting 0:02:49.960 --> 0:03:02.679 foul run around. But we got this baby. I don't 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:09.359 care what you say, but I gotta, I gotta, I 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:14.480 gotta tell you how how important you mean the queens, Uh, 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.760 not only queens, because if you look at queens, you 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.600 look at people like you Nas, Run DMC, you gotta 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.600 look at the whole spectrum of hip hop. So if 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.440 you say a person was a leader queens, a person 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:30.480 was actually the leader of a whole generation. So now 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.680 you have people like Drake, you have people like Ja Rule, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:38.000 you have people all these people who actually they can't 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.480 say that they didn't pattern their style after you. How 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:47.760 do you feel about that? Well, you know, um, you 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.360 know hip hop is you know, hip hop is a 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.360 complex thing, man. I mean at the end of the day, 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:55.840 like you know, you know, if you're a decent looking fellow, 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.240 you gotta damn that kill yourself to be accepted by dudes, 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.160 you know what I mean? Yeah, pretty much. I mean, 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.160 look at Pop. You know it's a handsome dude, but 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:08.160 look what he had to do something, you know, I mean, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.760 if if I made one more chance that with a 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.520 call to the love song, but from Biggie with something else, 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.960 you know what I mean. So you know, it's kind 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.839 of like, you know, you gotta you gotta have It 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.839 takes courage to do what you love and you do 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.440 what you believe in, you know what I'm saying. And 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.159 that was my thing. It wasn't a matter of you know, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.200 I just wanted to have girls, you know what I mean? 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.919 You know most of my did too. I mean, you know, 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.200 I figured out make some songs to try to get something. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.680 You know, I didn't, you know, I didn't realize that 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.600 that was like, you know, because you know the thing 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.720 with hip hop is that you know, if you're not 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.279 if you're not hit, if you're not spending gun balls 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.160 and talking about packs, that gold title is gonna be 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.720 elusive for you because you know, most of the time 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.359 the voting members, that's what they really you know, the 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.680 fellas really that's what they really wanted. And I too, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.640 you know what I'm saying. But you know, I just 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.720 decided that I was gonna do what I wanted to do. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.600 I had the balls to just do what I wanted 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.200 to do, So you know I did hard records and 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.599 love records and hard records and weird records and creative 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.240 artsy ship do you think? Do you think? Because I 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:19.440 think that Al perfected the hard record and then the 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:24.080 crossover record after that, and then Biggie kind of took 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.480 that style. And the reason why I want to ask you, 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.800 have you ever thought like that? Because of the flavor 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.960 in your air, it was like they kind of try 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.840 to keep you closer. This is me as a fan. 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.120 I have no flavoring. I mean flaving first of all. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.880 Flavoring year is so crazy because so many people thought 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.080 my trainees or some ship, you know what I mean, 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:56.400 Like you knows run around here like that shout out 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.560 to my man top fight. That was something that we 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.440 used to say all the time, you know, saying just 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.760 when it was on in popping. I had no idea 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:05.839 that when they was gonna spell out the syllables were 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.679 gonna be And you know, oh, with all love and respect, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.080 you know, Traningville, you know what the man that's gonna 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.719 be there, you know, with all love and respect to everybody, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.080 you know what you want beef and you know what 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.680 I'm saying. But um uh yeah, you know, look man, 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.040 whether it's big or Noazle, you know the other guys, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.880 Like I respect all of artists for what they do, 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.440 you know what I'm saying, and respect anybody who's original 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.320 and and and does it from the heart, does it 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.279 from the soul. Like you know, I was listening to 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.479 that Kendrick record and when he had said, uh, um, 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.440 you know he does it from the soul. You do it? 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.120 You know, for you it comes from the meds. I'm paraphrasing, 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.159 you know what I'm saying. Um, I just love I 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.720 love hip hop. You know, I love the culture. You know, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.440 I love everything about it. But the thing was, you know, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.200 also at the same time, you know, I was never 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.599 gonna be a slave to the music business. So meaning 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.240 that the first time that I went and sat down 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.320 and said, yo, I'd like to get X amount as 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.120 an advance to this album, and somebody like they shoulder 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:10.240 shook a little bit when you radio. When I wrote 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:19.240 the Radio, I took a hero girl get a Yeah, 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:26.920 you know, we forget it, so, you know, but I 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.360 just you know, look, man, I just like to do everything. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.800 You know, I don't feel like you should limit yourself. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:34.480 You know, if you have to tell me that, if 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.920 you have the talent to do many things, you shouldn't 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.880 be afraid to do that because dreams will have deadlines, 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.560 and you know, a lot of times, you know, in 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.440 our culture, especially in the black community and as young males, 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:51.560 you know, we get boxed in to what marginalized. Well no, 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.560 not just marginalized by mainstream society, but boxed in in 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.760 the sense that you know, you feel like there's certain 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.640 things that you might have dreams, but you don't think 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.040 it's cool, you know what I'm saying. You might want, 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.360 You might be in origami, you might be into something 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:09.080 like like knitting like blankets and putting them over gates 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:13.280 like that. Because you're not a or you're not a 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.840 basketba player, You're not cool and wet. Wead to ourselves 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.000 with our music too, because we don't give us We 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.080 don't give ourselves freedom, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.640 we don't give ourselves the freedom to do what we 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.520 want to do. We always feel like, you know, every 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.720 every time I make a song, I gotta worry about 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.800 what what this particular set of friends thinks. Forget my imagination, 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.400 but I might be imagining some other ship. It's not 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.600 that I don't want to make records that my friends like, 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.440 but what if I think of something else? Why can't 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.520 I do that? Right? Why can't I do that? And 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.439 so that's the thing that I kind of I always 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.520 acted on that impulse, you know, I never you know, 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.800 I never was like I just wouldn't listen to that, 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.000 you know what I mean? Like, I just do what 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:59.840 I want to do, because who do you love? Yo? 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.480 I gotta I gotta get to this. I've never you know, 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.800 I've been seeing you for twenty years and I've never 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.400 asked you this question. What is pink cookies in the 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:15.880 plastic bathroom crush my ain't gonna lie. I've been going 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.880 with whatever, anything to say, I'll tell you. I'll tell 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:23.560 you what. No, no, it makes sense. No. No. I 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.240 was on the phone with a girl right and um, 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.000 you know, I was at Molly Studio and she was 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:34.960 talking Molly Mom, Molly, Yeah, and I am all right, Uh, 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.000 I smell some weed, but I didn't in hell, you know. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:46.240 And and uh, you know, after I smelled the weed, um, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.000 you know, after smelling the weed, I laid on the 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.280 couch and I was talking to this girl and she said, 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:52.960 I was like, you know, yeah, She was like, what 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:54.920 are you talking about? Said baby, I don't know. I'm 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.160 thinking about heating cookies in the plastic bag and crushed 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:05.280 my buildings right now, she said, she said. And what 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.400 she said? What? I was like, that's the song background? 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:15.920 I said, your mother, I said, your mother, let's get it. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.160 So I went downstairs, you know, and made the record, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.200 you know, let me. So it was so complicated that 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:30.640 I knew the explanation. Yeah yeah, it wasn't no, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:34.800 you know, yeah yeah, I'm not even I ain't come 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.560 here to line run for office. You know, That's what 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.840 it was, you know. And I had minute to satellite 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.080 floating in closet, spinding pockets. I had a few of them. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.360 I got more of them jumping out of football jumping 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.760 out of a helicopter into a football stadi and filled 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.160 with cotton, candy and ship. I'm gonna tell you some 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:57.440 crazy ship. I'm gonna tell you one thing. Al I 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.760 know you don't know you taught me that. I know 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:01.800 you don't know what you told me this. But I 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.280 was on the Top forty tour, right, and I only 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.120 have seven dates on the top forty tour. You had 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:10.880 like seventy, right, and I didn't ride on the private jet. 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:16.360 I was commercial everybody else. You had your puff daddy 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.360 jar rule, this is this is this, this is that type. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.720 But I got seven days. So every date that I 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.560 had had with you, like you had your room and 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.480 then you had your room for your people, and I 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.000 never disrupted you. I never came in there. But this 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:32.679 was one day I was like you kind of speak 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.760 to owl and I was like, who is it, and 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.120 they said Norway said let that nigger, and I felt 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:44.240 like he was shadow boxing. I don't know. So you 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.839 came in and I said, your el because you had 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.040 gave out roses this night. You had gave out roses, right, 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.720 so I said owl like. I'm I'm eighteen nineteen at 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.800 the time, I'm so young. So I'm like, oh, every 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.240 girl in the crowd is for you. Wow, are you 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:02.920 not out there? And you know what she told me. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:07.480 You said I rolled my wife And I said why, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.120 he said, because I never get in trouble yea, yeah, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.400 yeah yeah, And let me tell you something to this day, 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:22.480 I rolled my wife. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you you 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.600 really don't you know, why get the money back? You know, 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:39.200 I mean, I'm back like easy like And then you know, 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.280 the crazy thing is younger brothers come up to me 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.680 and be like, yo, Nori, why are you rolling with 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.839 your wife? And not just be like I'm gonna use 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.000 that now. We just say I don't want to get back. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.240 But you know, you know, I you know, I had 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.040 moments Nori in my life, you know, I mean, I 0:12:54.480 --> 0:13:03.679 you know, you know, uh you know, yeah, but you know, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.600 but at the same time, we can't. Yeah, you gotta 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.880 he got easy tiger. You know, it's rough out there, 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.079 something water out there. Then I didn't know though when 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.360 you told me that, Yeah, I was like, el was 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.160 bugging or then I had to actually live. And then 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:19.959 when I lived, I said, so you thought he was 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.080 bugging out when he told me that. Oh no, I 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.600 was to my mind that party said he's retired, like 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.440 and then years later I was like, you, that reminds 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:31.880 me of a story I was. You know, I won't 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:37.920 say his name because I don't want to. It's rap dude. 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.040 You know. Back in day he came with me like, yo, yo, 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.920 you know, let me hold something, you know, to paper, Well, 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.440 let me hold something, you know. I tried. I tried 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.960 to tell him about them. He's like, yo, let me 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.760 hold something. And I tried to tell him, you know, 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.000 talk to him about stocks and bonds and ship like that. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.160 He was like, yo, may tell me some stock. Let 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:58.400 me hold something. Stocks and bos. So that reminds me 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.800 of that, like at a point at some you're not you. 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.600 You only can understand it when you're ready for it. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.319 You did not ready for it, and a lot of times, 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.320 you know, and That's true with music too, because you 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.400 can do music and put it out there and people 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.520 just don't understand it and it flies over their head 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.880 and they catch it later. You know what I'm saying. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:18.560 Sometimes that happens to whoever seen I'll perform before raise 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.120 your hands. God damnit, it should be more people raising 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.960 your hands, let me say so. At one point in 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.840 this show, he takes off his shirt just get every 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.720 woman a flower and they're super wet. You could just 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:41.440 tell because the heads just like are you Like that's 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:45.840 the goal? And you know, I'm so, I'm a kid. 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:49.120 I'm eighteen nineteen years Chris like, he's like, yo, you 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.240 gotta go, you gotta follow. I'm like, all right, cool, 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.360 and I'm doing it. They're all on private planes. It's okay. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:00.480 I'm getting there, is okay. I'm still happy and I'm 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:04.080 like al and al. It's like he knocked none of 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.640 them down. Yeah. I couldn't believe it, Like yeah, person, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.520 I was like yeah, yeah yeah, and you so content 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:16.200 and now you can't handle I live, Like, do you 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:27.920 approve my lifestyle? The seven You ain't judging the lands 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.320 toe that's ever gonna judge you as me? No, I 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.280 still need you to prove my life to say I 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:39.640 approve this message. I lived ten years behind you because 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.840 you know my I got holloween in my closet, saw 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:52.040 all type of bones and tosstoons, type of away from 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:57.840 that risk boons fine spine hanging over the closet door 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:04.280 school albo Man. I gotta ask you this, this, This 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.680 is not for the for the podcast, This is not 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:12.480 for anything. This is because I sincerely respect cool I 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.080 love Cooj. I looked up to al COJ. But you 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.920 did kind of crushed cannabis career early and I never 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:25.680 knew why, like me personally, like why no, I don't know, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.400 I know the industry answer why. I mean, you know, 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.160 the real disrespect you in the session? What happened because 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.400 you're a queen's nigger and I respect what respect it? 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.040 What happened? You know? Um? I mean the real honest 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.680 answer is that, you know, one day, you know, we 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.040 was I was on my way to student and it 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.000 came up to me and you know, and you know 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:47.480 my you know, uh, because it was a little taller 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.640 than me. It was a little taller than me a 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.000 little bit, so you know, he walked up and he 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.760 was like yo, you know yo, your tattooed man like 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.520 your tattoo, and we get one like that. I said, Now, 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.240 I mean, you know you gotta get your own, you know, 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.680 you know, I didn't understand that, like nictally, like I 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:08.119 didn't understand that your own joint, Like I didn't really know. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.040 I just didn't understand it. Like it was no disrespect. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.760 I was like, you got your own, don't get one 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.680 like that. And then it's something we had that conversation 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.399 when I got when I went in and heard his boss, 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.320 he said, is that a mic on your all? Let 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.200 me baw that? And I just like was like, I 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:29.600 just did not understand. I just yeah, I couldn't understand it. 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:34.239 I just like, okay, and that was it. Take me 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.119 from that moment he already had. Isn't you that you 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.200 already had your version? Then you changed? Is that? No, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.920 that's not the truth is I went in, I heard 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.240 what he said, and I responded to the ship, that's 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:49.119 the on your record. I didn't take him off. I 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:53.479 was too ignorant for that. A smart guy, you know, 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.520 jay Z, would have took him off the record. Let 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:04.480 it smart. I was an idiot. But you have ignorant. 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:09.399 I'm gonna tell you I'm at that time, I was 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:17.000 king around and said, now this is some reason and 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:22.879 he said, norry, do you know what's going on? But 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.119 I'm acting like I'm done. I'm like, no, l L 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:34.159 is battling cannabis. And told him, just looking at him, 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.959 my mind, I know what's going on, and I'm like 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:41.760 where he's like, y'all. But then yeah, but see, the 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.080 thing is what people don't know is that I you know, 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:49.040 after that I saw him cannabis and after crust his career, well, no, no, 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:52.560 I saw him and I said, yo, And he was 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:56.160 debating about putting a song about me out. I said, yo, don't. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.919 I went to him, I said, Yo, you know what, Okay, 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:00.439 it happened on the record. I And first of all, 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.200 nobody's gonna know if you don't make a record. I said, 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.440 that's the first thing I never knew. And now that's 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.360 a very important party. I told him this. So you're 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:14.600 saying before before before reaction record came out, I met 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:17.400 with him. I didn't know that. I said, yo, I said, 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.480 don't put no record. Nobody's gonna know. Just leave it. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.040 And you know, I got a little high hand. It's 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.239 between us to leave. He said, I don't know if 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.159 I don't put it out out of the politics, and 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.439 I'm like, and I'm like, you know, and then the 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.639 black clefts over in the corner, and then the betting 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:41.440 and ship. You know, now now I love, it's all good. 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.680 But then he put the record out. And then you know, 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.040 then because I told him, I said, Yo, let's just 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.560 do a record together. You know what I mean, Yes, 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:51.520 I said that. 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And he felt offended by that, making 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.320 more than your pops. And he was offended because he 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.520 thought it was the wrong message because I was making more. Well. No, no, 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.560 he thought I was sending a bad message to two 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:19.320 young kids out there like I was, because you know, 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.160 looked when I coming up, when I was growing up, 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.560 you know, sixteen seventeen eight, like seventeen eighteen nineteen, I 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.080 was always with Rich Porter. I was always with Alpo 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.560 and a Z and my man Big Chuck for Mount 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:32.160 Vernon took me with them. So that's who I used 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:33.879 to be always hanging up with. I would be on 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:36.359 one three two, and you know, always uptown. Not not 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:38.040 fat Cat even though he was from Queens. 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M he rest in peace. Um, 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:21.119 you know, I just came up, you know, in a 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:24.200 different you know, thought process, you know what I'm saying. 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:25.879 And I just tried to do things right, you know 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.040 what I mean, that's all. Basically, did you know Benny 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.119 was the biggest drug dealer in Queens when he was 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.399 hanging with him at one point? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.600 I know Ben was my man, you know what I'm saying. 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:39.200 I hung with them, you know, you know the whole time, 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:45.320 you know, I was, and some of his initial escapades. 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:49.359 But you know what the thing is about that, what 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:51.359 people have to understand about that is that, first of all, 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:53.480 we don't want to glorify that because it's not cute. 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.879 We do not um and it's a tough life and 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.720 it destroys lives. And most of the guys that are 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.359 really doing it for real, which a worman okay, and 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.520 the ones that are really successful at it, I really 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.280 wish they were successful at something else, anything else. It's 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.640 a horrible way to live, okay, And we confront ack 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.840 like it isn't, but it is. It's a very tough 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.640 way to live, alright, because I've seen it firsthand for real, 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:20.320 and but you know it. It taught me a lot though, 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:21.960 and learned a lot. You know, I forgot the point 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:23.440 I was trying to make because I was no because 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.440 you know why, you know, I'm telling you the point 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:30.320 just trying to make because at one point, oh so, 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:35.919 basically he thought that I was glorifying that lifestyle. When 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:40.720 I said so, he wanted to, you know, be conscious 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:43.440 about that. But what he didn't understand is that you 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.080 know that I'm an eighteen year old young man and 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.280 I don't know anything else but this, you know, growing 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:52.080 up in the hood, I'm just throw yeah. But when 0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:53.679 you're growing up in the hood and I see a 0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.560 car drive by, that's all I know. It ain't and 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:58.880 I see a guy how he gets it, That's all 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.360 I know. It's not about I'm not even thinking about 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:05.320 right and wrong and consequences and ruining my life. And 0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.440 you don't even think on that level. That doesn't even 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.240 come into your brain. The only thing you think is 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.280 I'm here, and the money's there, and where do I 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.440 gotta go to get it? That's all you really think about. 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:17.800 Now when you're older, you get in your thirties, your 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.720 late twenties, and you know, maybe before you can start 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.439 reflecting and kind of cleaning up your life. So I 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:25.520 think he had the right attention, but that the problem 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.320 was that he wasn't merciful and understanding that I was 0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:30.200 a young kid. And this is always thinking now on 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:33.639 the MC level. You know, you know, I've never shot 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:37.200 away from trying to snap somebody's head off. You know, 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:41.720 I feel like the battle now, I feel like it's 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.680 feeling right now. I felt like he was gonna beat 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:50.200 up Charlemagne recently. What happened? You know? My think, No, No, 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:54.439 my thing. My thing with Homie is, you know, you 0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.320 know he he likes to get on the radio and 0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.560 bully people. You know what I'm saying. I don't like bullies, 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.359 me neither. You know what I'm saying, I really don't 0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.800 like bullies. And you know, I understand he's a small guy. 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.919 I get that. But the bully thing didn't work for me, 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.760 and I felt like he was picking on me and 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.560 undermining my my, my, my brand and my my my, 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.080 my five you know what I'm saying. But I wasn't 0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:18.520 gonna go up there and do the baby thing. I 0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.920 just told him. Look, I just told him, listening when 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:25.280 you got me, let me do that. I love baby, 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.439 that's my man. But I wasn't doing that. I'm not 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:33.280 gonna go to your show, your show, why you make money. 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.159 We're not doing that. And by the way, that's the 0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:41.480 most view. I'm sure, I'm sure, but my thing was, Look, 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.439 you know, I said, look, let's just box a charity. 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.879 You know, I give uneople up now, but I was 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:54.000 agen for charity, not when you're boxing for I'm gonna 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:58.280 be honest with you. I don't be honest with you. 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.040 Nobody want to box that I didn't want to. You 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:04.080 don't know, I don't look, I don't want I'm not. 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.720 I have no problems with him. I wish from the best. 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.560 Just leave me alone and don't pick on me. Just 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:11.399 don't pick on I don't like to get you. You know, 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.560 everybody watching this pocket no, I can't. I don't plan 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.760 everybody in hip hop, you know, I don't get carried away. 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:23.280 But there's some crazy one. But everybody watching this podcast 0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.160 don't bully, don't be bullies, and don't pick on people. 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.120 Because that was my only problem with And you felt 0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.160 like he was picking on yeah, because he's always got 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:31.959 something to say, like he doesn't understand, Like I give 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.360 you an example, like, you know, everybody was mad at me, 0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:37.520 and I understand their point of view, but everybody was 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.200 mad at me about you know, the whole accidental racist record. 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.000 You know what I'm saying. And that was a big conversation. 0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.320 And they thought, you know or else, you know, aiding 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.800 in the betting of us forgetting slavers verse your verse 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.720 saying the change. Yeah, they didn't. So what they didn't 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.920 understand is that, you know, now fast forward and look 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.000 at the shape the countries in, and you think about 0:27:58.040 --> 0:27:59.679 what me and him was attempting to do. It was 0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.359 the logical, but looking where to shape the country's in? 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.199 Now you did. People at that point thought that I 0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.840 was out of my mind for talking comparing a do 0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.320 rag to a Confederate flag. But now you're seeing little 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.200 brothers get shot down every day because of the outfits. 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.400 Whether it's a hoodie. It may not be a do rag, 0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.800 but maybe it's a hoodie with tray Von, maybe some 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.879 sagging jeans. Maybe it's a brother outside of SUV getting 0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.199 shot down. That's the thing I was talking about. I 0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.199 was trying to humanize us. I would never suggest that 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.879 we forget our history. That's absurd, it's ludicrous. But you 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.040 gotta be willing to Like, I'll give you another example. 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:33.919 Like people is mad at me what I said? Oh 0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.240 r I p Robert E. Lee. I hate he I 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.240 can say that Robert R. I p Robert E. Lee. 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:42.240 They hated me. He was a general in the Confederate Army. Yeah, 0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.800 I understand how people feel. But when that when that 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.960 racist dude ran up in that church and he shot 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.720 up all of those people and that black church down south, 0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:53.040 and then those black people got together and said, you 0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.480 know what, you know, we're praying for him, and we 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.320 forgive him and we want to send love to him. 0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:01.440 The country helped them in high esteem because they were 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.479 able to get beyond their emotions and see the bigger picture. 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:06.840 And that's what I was trying to show people, you 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.080 know what I'm saying. But it took four years and 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.720 all of these people dying by the hands of of 0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.000 corrupt police, because not all police are corrupt, you know 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:15.680 what I mean, but dying by the hands of some 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.120 of these corrupt policemen and dying at the hands of 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.320 in the wrong way. For people don't understand that what 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.120 I was saying and what me and Brad would attempting 0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.480 to do was very real, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.360 But that's why the whole they laugh at you, then 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.120 they ignore you, then they fight you, then you win 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.800 things true because they laughed at us. Then you know 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.479 that's and now everybody was laughing at us. You know, 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:37.920 but then when you and then they ignored us. But 0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.760 now look at what's going on now, they're trying to 0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.920 fight that same they're trying to promote those same vibes, 0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.520 those same values that we talked about. So you know, 0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.160 that's about the courage. That's about art. You know, that's 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.080 what art does. It provokes people. You know what I'm saying. 0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.000 I just want to say to you if you don't 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.440 know how much you appreciate it in the hip hop, no, 0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.840 but I appreciate hip hop. No, But listen, let me 0:29:59.920 --> 0:30:02.880 just tell you something. If it wasn't for L cool J, 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:07.280 there wouldn't be a NAS. It wasn't for Nas, there 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.960 wouldn't be a mob Deep. It's for a mob deep, 0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:14.440 there wouldn't be a component Oriega. So me personally, I 0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.200 want to look at you, face to face, out of 0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.840 man and man and tell you how much that not 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.120 only queens because when our queen's is limited, even though 0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:31.120 queens we won the world. For that from queens, even 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:34.440 though even queens we won the world. But it's pretty funny. 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.720 I did hear that. I did hear ki me. I 0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:39.680 had a condo around the corner from his from his 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.600 rich for twenty years. Got damn it, A ponder around 0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.240 the truck, Got damn it. I'm not gonna lie. I 0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.320 was just close to buying the condo next in his 0:30:52.400 --> 0:31:13.239 building because it's it's cost effective, of course effective. But 0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:17.160 you came one day I'm shooting a black money video. Yeah, 0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:21.560 the most disrespectful record on my album. And I call 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:25.760 for al COO J to come through and l CUJ 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:30.000 comes through. My motherfucking so. I always love your music. No, no, 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.240 I always loved your music. I always felt your music. 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.920 You know what I'm saying, what all of that you know? 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.000 I mean you introduced the world to the Neptuns and 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:41.320 all that. I mean you put that you know you 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.560 po But I met for real because of you. I 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.760 can't shouldn't meant for real. And that's when I did 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:50.120 love you better than I ended up ultimately doing, love 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.640 you better than Americas. But you know you, You've done 0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.360 a lot. You know you're an important person what we're doing. 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.080 That's why the podcast is so successful. I've been watching it, 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:01.040 but watching episodes and with CBS and me and e 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:03.959 fam we got some deals that bring you. I got 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.000 to cover, I gotta got cover. That got a lot 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.760 of stuff. Yeah, yeah, I got something. And the lip 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.000 Sync Battle. Yeah, was that your idea or what that 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:15.040 was somebody else? Well, the idea came from John Krasinski 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.120 and Steve Merchant and they brought it, you know through 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:19.600 I don't know who they are, but they sound ready 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:26.560 now it came to us and uh, basically you know, 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.440 but I owned the format along with my partners, and 0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.040 we've sold a format and over a hundred fifty countries 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.800 around the world, and we have like a partnership with 0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.600 like Carnival Cruises, and uh, you know, the app is 0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.959 starting to grow now and really doing well, the lip 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.280 Sync Battle app, and uh, I mean the show and 0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.480 we've also, um, we have different versions of the show 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.480 around the world. So like in Tiland, it's like a 0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.480 you know, would be a tie host doing the lip Battle, 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.080 and we just did like in Ukraine, and we did 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.440 a deal in Russia, and we did a deal you 0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.120 know in China. We just did a big deal in 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.680 China for for lip Sync Battle. So that thing is 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.120 global and then you know what people don't know it's 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.040 with like n C I s l A also have 0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:08.800 a vested interest in the show. I'm not just an 0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:15.000 actor on the show. I haven't. That's the guy and 0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.640 and that's in two hundred countries around the world as well. 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:19.400 You know what I'm saying. So it's it's you know, 0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:25.240 it's really going on. It's going on. Listen. I'm not 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:29.880 gonna lie. When I looked at hip hop, right, I 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.720 was tired of hip hop. I was just tired. Like 0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:36.040 I mean, I loved it, I still want to make it. 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.200 I couldn't God bless her dad. After Chris Lidy died, 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.840 I couldn't actually attack it the way I wanted to 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:47.600 attack it. So I said, let me just think of 0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.240 something else. And all I did was look at you. 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:52.760 I looked at you and said, what the fund is 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.440 l doing? L Because are you in shape? I'm not. 0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.160 I wasn't in shape. Yeah, you said you're good. Now 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.000 you're a little I'm a little. Okay, you look like 0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:10.440 you know you're doing handstead something. Watch your Instagram Buttram 0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:20.600 kill me. But I and I said, what can I 0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.960 do to do something else other than the hip hop? 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:27.520 Because music just gets boring even if you're making money. 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.480 Music is just just boring now. But you know what, 0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:32.600 let me tell you something. I don't. I don't feel 0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.560 that way. I think my thing is I just never 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.960 limit myself. And like I said, if you have more 0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.520 than one talent, you should utilize them all. You know 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.120 what I'm saying. Um, if you're a Dion Sanders and 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:47.160 you can play baseball and football, play both. Um, you know, 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.160 music is not off the table for me. You know, 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.440 I'm not telling you that I'll never make another record. 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.680 It's just right now, you're gonna make another record right well, 0:34:54.800 --> 0:35:02.320 right now, my priority is entertaining. We're trying to great 0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:10.320 business movie, great movie. I'm sorry, certain its beautiful. So 0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.479 I'm not saying this entertaining. But you know, you gotta 0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:15.759 you gotta try different things. You gotta you know, you 0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.160 gotta move, you gotta you know what I'm saying, Like 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.759 make things happen and not be like afraid to like 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.560 fall back for a second. Like I'm not afraid, Like 0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:26.759 I don't feel like you know, if I if I 0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.120 make a song, it'll be like I never left because 0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.560 after the record go off because into deep Yeah this movie, 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.000 oh yeah, that was yeah, that was just stuck a 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:40.080 poll stick up a nigger. Yeah, eight ball back pocket. 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:47.600 I didn't know aly eight ball too. I just didn't sick. 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:54.080 I'm sorry, I didn't know. You want to you went, 0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.600 you went in. You do. Don't worry. I don't worry 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.960 the videos, you know, the movies and so out. Yeah, 0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.560 it's all when it comes to the movies, I don't 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.839 limit myself with the characters, whatever role it is. You know, Um, 0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.680 I'm not above any roller, below any rollers. If if 0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:13.520 I respond to the role and I feel like it's 0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:15.799 something good, I'll do it. Right now, I'm playing Sam 0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.680 Hanno and nciss Angeles is a lot of fun. We're 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.359 going into next season. Didn't you put out your gun? 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.359 Very professional that But let me turn I can tell 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:35.359 you learn now he's talking about get hitting them at all, 0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:39.080 you know. Yeah, I went down to like Camp Penalton 0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.680 and train with like the Marines and the Special Apps guys, 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:47.040 the Sailors down. Um, you know, hung out with a 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.279 master gunner restager from the Marines who told me a 0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:51.560 lot of I went to swat school. You know it 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:56.319 did a lot of let's go back to yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:36:56.320 --> 0:37:00.560 he got no he stuck. He's sticking again. Yeah, well 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:04.200 yeah that sucked me up. And we're like, yeah, knew you. 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:16.800 I was good. What would down like? God, I'm like, 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:22.719 oh my god. He was like, yeah, that's a brutal scene. 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:24.480 And if you haven't seen it too deep go check 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:28.000 it out. It's a brutal scene. Is a brutal scene. Yeah. 0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.200 But going back to music real quick, you're one of 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.359 the first New York artists to kind of be bi 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.040 coastal when you worked with poo L A Posse and 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.759 on them. How did that come about? Um? Basically what 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.279 happened was, you know at that time, you know, after 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.719 my first album, Rick Rubin left Jeff Champ and uh, 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:46.960 we we're trying to figure out what my next move 0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.200 was gonna do be because he produced my first album, 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.319 the whole first album. Yeah, yeah, we did the whole 0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.320 first album together. Um it was his first album to 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:57.440 first full album, and um, so after that and he 0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:04.200 can't just say that nothing make no. Yeah, so after that, 0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:08.280 Volt cameras, you gotta start flapping to clapping too, I understand, 0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.839 but volt cameras, you gotta clap to it. I'm sorry, 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:19.759 youtubeat guy all right, terrible terrible side. So now so 0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.279 you know, uh, you know, I went and Russell had 0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.719 heard you know, the L A Posse because they had 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.479 made some records that he felt was in the zone 0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.680 to introduced me to him. I met Bob kat Um, 0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.320 big up to Bob, you know from L A l 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:37.640 As you know l ast Red Wasn't wasn't the radio 0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.439 who myn My first album was Radio. My first song 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.560 was I Need to Beat. My first song came out 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.319 four it was I need to Beat. Then I had 0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:48.800 I was born in seventy seven. YEA, well, thank you 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.880 giving my child. Then the second one came out like 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.400 eighty five. The album came out like eighty five, and 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:57.640 then it went from there. But the second album came 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.200 out around eighty seven. But the first albums on that jam. 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:03.719 It was on Yes This is c Rock. It's Yours 0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:05.800 was on Death Jam Productions. It was an imprint on 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:09.040 Street on Party Times Party Time Records, and was Death 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:12.400 Jam Productions. And and Rick was having problems. Him and 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.279 Russell weapon problems getting the money from Party Time for 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.680 the Yours record, so they decided to start their own label. 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:21.040 And and I was the flagship artists, and we made 0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:23.880 the first alum and I actually you know, first I 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:25.680 know I owned a piece of death Jam as well, 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:27.680 and I sold it. Yeah yeah, I sold it back 0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:34.680 to them. Yeah we didn't know that. Yeah. But the 0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:39.360 first record was radio radio on Rock the Bell's Radio. 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.480 All of that was on first record. Yeah, and they 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.120 wentn't got to deal with when when you got to 0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:51.920 deal with no, no, no, CBS, CBS Yeah, Columbius, we 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:56.520 got CBS right here in the CBS. Yeah. Yeah, you 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.960 know queens Nick is getting money with CBS. Yeah, it certainly. 0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:21.480 Can you put me there's This is what I want. 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.360 I want you to describe back in the days, because 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:28.480 it was so rough walking down Jamaica as I mean, 0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.400 I mean, listen, people think it's rough walking up to 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.120 make an app and two thousand and seventeen, they have 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.120 no idea what it was in the eighties and the mzingies. 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:40.040 Can you describe? It was like every any piece of 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.640 clothing that you had on that was moldy, moldy or 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.759 remotely valuable was like asking people to rob you. Like 0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:49.640 like if you have to be at gazelles or you 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.160 won't buy somebody your gazelles would say to them, excuse me. 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.239 It was like the gazelles. We're talking. If you have 0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.279 seemed skinning, be like, hey, I don't seen this thing. 0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:04.279 Come up and get me rock please, he said, come 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:09.399 on please. It was crazy. It was crazy and listen 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.480 crazy described to people. Listen, let me describe to the 0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:16.239 rule because one day Nas has told me. He said, 0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.920 one day, me and Nas just kicking it, be talking 0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.279 and now I said, he came to Left Wrack and 0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.239 he was like, he came to Left Frack. He was like, 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:28.040 I can't believe the amount of respect that nobody don't 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:32.000 bother you here. And I was like, my hud, he said, 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:36.720 do you imagine what al Who went through in those days? 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:40.600 Mind you, we had no facts. But remember remember you know, 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.040 you know I was hanging with you know, the guys 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.400 I was hanging with. The guy isn't really having a 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:52.200 lot of problems, like you knows, throw through color. I 0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:58.640 never heard your room, right, Yeah, you know, you know 0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.719 we told you was I was. I was with guys 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.520 that were so official and thorough in the street that 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:09.240 you know, you know, I mean, I wasn't having those issues, 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:12.160 you know, and um, and I wasn't looking for me 0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.000 because you know what I've learned, I don't. I never, 0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:15.640 I never in my life have tried to be a 0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.359 tough guy. And I never hung around gangsters and tried 0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.279 to act like I was one, because that's how you 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.920 get yourself in trouble. Just be who you are. Just 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.360 be yourself, you know what I mean. And so I 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.600 never had a lot of issues. I had a few fights, 0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:30.799 and you know, I grew up fighting, you know, I wasn't, 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:35.799 you know, having shootouts. We could tell you you fight, 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.719 you know a couple of people. You know. I had 0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.680 a dumb moments. I'll tell you a funny story when 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.480 I was a little kid, just a little mischief. So 0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:45.759 when I was a little kid, you know, when it 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.640 was snow outside, we decided it was a good idea, 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.600 you know, take like nana to take rocks and send 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:54.719 the blocks and cover them with snow and then throw 0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:58.960 them at cars like I don't ask me while the 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:04.600 right was breaking, you know what. So one day, one day, 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.200 I mean my grandmother's yard, not to throw a goddamn 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.960 big gass rock with snow around it, because you know 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:11.680 the car's not gonna stop. They say, Oh, look at 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:15.799 the little kids with snowballs, and then like stright, why 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:17.319 didn't you know we were? So we was in there 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:21.239 week A man came around the corner and I was 0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:23.480 looking over there, and I've seen the window rolling town 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.759 like that. All I see was little flashing lights. You 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:31.000 always running. I hate behind a snow mount. Did you 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:36.200 hear me? Snowmas snowman bullets were fun the joint about 0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:44.399 snow mound. And then I like ran fell down another basement. Yea, yeah, 0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:49.000 he was flashing lights. Was the gun going on? You 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:58.040 know what I mean? Flashing lights? The lights? And I 0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.360 like rent and you know how the when he's the 0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:03.480 basement windows got that that, I don't know what you know, 0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:05.919 it's like a you know, it's like a thing down 0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:08.000 I think in the house for the so you can 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:09.799 open the basement window. So I found out he had 0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:11.560 told my ankles up and all that. So I had 0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:13.160 a little mischief in my life a little bit, but 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.200 for the most part, I stayed out of trouble, you 0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:18.000 know what I mean. And I'm sorry to bring this up, 0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:22.480 but I have to bring it up. We all was 0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:27.000 managed by violator management. We all was under the tutelagit 0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:29.040 I don't know if that's a word, but you know 0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:33.879 what I mean, it is of Chris. Lady, I asked 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.360 fifty cent this, I asked all violated artists when they 0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:40.520 come on here, like how did it? Because it affected me? 0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:42.800 But first of all, I love Chris deeply, and his 0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.000 daughter Tiffany is a good difference to my my my kids, 0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:49.080 and she's at the household the time, and uh, you 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.239 know she hangs with my wife and hangs with the 0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.960 kids and all that. Um. First of all, Chris and 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.120 my relationship was a little different from probably yours and 0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:00.040 fifties because Chris got in the business after me, so 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:01.759 we had a different You was already and yeah, I 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:03.680 was already, So you know, we had a different type 0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:08.120 of relationship, you know. And um, you know, we were 0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.279 friends and we were you know, I looked at you know, 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.600 we looked at each other's counterparts. And he managed me. 0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:15.960 He did he made a lot of things for me. 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:20.359 But our relationship, you know, was, um, what you think, 0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.840 what you think, Let's get X, let's get wild. Like 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.800 I remember when he was interning the Death Cham and 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.200 stuff like that. But the thing I remember most about 0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.560 Chris is that he was a really, really, really really 0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:36.279 small guy, and he was a good dude, and he 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.480 wasn't soft like I remember Chris used to let me 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:40.960 in the tunnel when he was a bodyguard. At the tunnel. 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:46.200 Chris used to do security security and he would be outside. 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.600 I heard he was running the tunnel security. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:54.640 you know he was christ Christmas. Chris was. You know, 0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.120 he may have been involved in the business aspects too. 0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.360 But when I seen Chris, he had a bulletproof vessel 0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:06.400 on outside the door. And I never liked Mr Smack. 0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:08.880 Come on in, Yo, he said, you know, he's like 0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.800 a good fellow. You know, he was a gamester. You know, Christmas, 0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.279 he was a real guy. I'm glad I met him. 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:18.560 Later he was, Yo, I'm telling you, but I mean 0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:20.120 all of you, all of the people you know, like 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.279 I'll tell you just to switch games for a minute. 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:25.880 Like Leo. The first time I met Leo. Leo was 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.920 a promoter in l A And when I met him, 0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:30.600 he came to pick me up from the airport because 0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:32.600 I had a show where he was a promoter. Promoter 0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:45.080 when a loss like Los Angeles and the driver's door 0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:47.880 didn't open, I mean the passenger door and open you 0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:49.439 had to get in the car through the driver side, 0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:52.200 both of us, and we drove and he was telling 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.120 me how we're gonna change hip hop. And let me 0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.080 tell you something. He was prophetic though, because everything he 0:46:56.160 --> 0:47:00.279 talked about came true. But he was very much you know, 0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:02.520 I mean, this was a guy that was walking around 0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.920 with you know, no lasers and the sneakers, you know, 0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:08.200 behind chasing behind jam as the jam joining his mouth, 0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:10.759 you know what I'm saying. Like he was a real 0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:14.120 like Like he wasn't this the corporate titan that he 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.680 ultimately became. But I always had respect for him because 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:18.719 Leo is the one who made the deal. C I 0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:22.320 owned my whole catalog. You still from the beginning I 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.880 own my catalg I didn't, but I owned it ultimately 0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:26.800 with my deal. You know, when I got to a 0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.120 certain position with def Jam, I did a deal where 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.080 I owned my catalog. Right. Leo is the one that 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.960 did that deal. So I have to always respect Leo 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:36.480 for that because you know, he didn't have to do it. 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:38.239 They were trying to figure out how to make a 0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:40.279 deal that was rich enough for me to want to stay, 0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:43.239 and you know, at the same time, they wanted to 0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:44.759 come up to a certain number, but not to go 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:46.480 beyond that. So you know, I said, well, you know, 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:50.200 give a catalog, and I said, okay, we worked that 0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:52.200 out and we got the catalog. So def jam has 0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:55.279 a really small interest in my catalog. I own it. 0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:59.319 And so when you hear ll Cool Jason Mamas all 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:06.480 that life, when you ll Ma Callie Mama, yeah, yeah, 0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:12.560 Mama said yeah. So when you hear my my records 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.880 and movies and on TV and stuff, I've licensed that. 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.520 You know, anytime you hear ll cool j Song, LLL 0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.319 has licensed it. That's another goal I'm gonna take out 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:25.320 to you. Yeah, you know, but let me tell you so, 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.520 let me be, let me be transparent. The reason the 0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:30.440 reason I'm sharing this is because I don't think the 0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:34.640 hip hop community understands a lot of the things that 0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:37.000 you know, I've been doing in my career. I think 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.080 that it's been kind of a mystery. And I never 0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:41.839 was a guy that like as my publicist to get 0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.719 me in Forbes. I've never been the guy who really 0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:47.880 um went out of his way to try to market 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:50.880 myself as smart. And I just never did that because 0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.000 I came from over a pure place and just wanting 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:54.839 to rock the mic, you know, and it was never 0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:56.320 like I give you another thing, like there was this 0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.440 whole room of back in the days that ll cool J. 0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.960 You know, he's upset because he didn't become the president 0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:07.200 of Death Champ, which is can I can I just 0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:10.239 say something like I can't even describe to you how 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:13.480 ultimately and utterly ridiculous that is. And let me sway 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:16.400 to you what why would look? I'm I'm I wanted 0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:18.360 you to be there. Do Michael Jackson want to be 0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:21.879 the president of Motown? Like I ain't confirmed, I don't 0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:26.320 relate to Michael. I didn't I want I never wanted that. 0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:29.200 I wanted to make music. See people wanted to get 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:39.279 a budget from you. But the thing is, the thing 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.279 is I just always I just wanted to be an artist, Mari, 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:46.239 Like I'm not ashamed of being a rapper, like I don't. 0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.719 I don't need to. I don't need to convince you 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.400 that I'm more than a rapper, Like I'm okay with that. 0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:53.360 So when that's all I wanted, All I want to 0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:54.920 do is be a rapper and be the best rapper, 0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:56.920 Like that's what I grew up wanting to do. So, 0:49:57.040 --> 0:50:01.400 I mean, actually something right as a rapper, when you 0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.399 hear the stories like the Little Wayne right, where Little 0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:08.040 Wayne is getting maybe taking advantage of we don't really know, 0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:11.080 we already know what we see. There's nothing, you know what, 0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:14.000 let me tell you something. There's there's nothing that Little 0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:17.040 Wayne did wrong, and I'll tell you. I'll tell you why, 0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:20.239 because like I told you, I owned my catalog and 0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:22.160 I told you that ultimately I got a great deal. 0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.560 But you know what, if Russell was the worst piece 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:27.280 person in the world, he could have easily taken advantage 0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:29.719 of me. He could have easily gave me one of 0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:33.000 those boso deals that you hear nightmares about. But you 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.080 know what, Russell wasn't that kind of guy. You know 0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:37.600 what I'm saying. I mean, you know, early on we 0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.920 did my publishing fifty fifty. Ultimately I got all my 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.440 publishing back, of course, but early on it was like that. 0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:46.080 But even then with my first contract, he only went 0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:49.600 fifty fifty. He didn't take it all. So so a 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:51.480 lot of that. A lot of times when you hear 0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:54.239 about guys with bad deals, that says more about the 0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:57.320 executives that they were dealing with than the actual artists. 0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:00.520 It's not about them being dumb, it's not about them 0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:02.799 being them because you know what, some guys, I'll give 0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:05.080 them credit, like some of the guys, you know, like 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.200 I told you, I hung around a lot of street guys, 0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:09.719 but I wasn't That's not who I was, right, I 0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:13.320 wasn't a hustler personally. Those were just my friends. But 0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.960 so some guys who are actually hustlers and hustlers and 0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:20.319 actually had that life, they get to benefit from all 0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.200 the experiences that they had hustling, so when they come 0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:26.080 into the game, they're able to make better deals earlier. 0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:29.719 But some of us, because we weren't hustlism because we 0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:33.400 didn't experience, you know, getting cheated and screwed and scammed. 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.040 We didn't. We were just innocent kids rapping. We may 0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:38.160 have been from a rough community, but were really just 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.080 innocent kids who love the rhyme. And so when you 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:43.080 go in and you sign your deal, it's not the 0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:45.000 greatest deal in the world because you're just excited to 0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:48.080 be there. Then you don't have that maturity and that 0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:51.320 grit and that you know, that grizzle that allows you 0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:53.600 to you know, make a better deal early so some 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.520 of these guys did benefit. There were benefits for some 0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.320 of them. Some benefited, something didn't. But I don't blame 0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:02.320 any of these younger artists. You know. Now, what I 0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:05.760 would say is that now the internet, because the Internet 0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:10.680 wasn't what it was, Well, there's access to information. You 0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:13.840 have information out there, so you gotta want the information. 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:16.120 You gotta want to make a great deal. Do you 0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:18.560 want to make a great deal? Are you patient? Do 0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:20.960 you have the balls to say no? Because are you 0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:24.000 comfortable saying no? That was a crazy thing is when 0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:28.719 when Death Jam we got their self together, I asked 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:34.399 them like bringing back l and they never asked my question. 0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:36.719 Well they do, but but you know, to be to 0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:41.880 be fair, your death Jam is Leo Kevin Russell Simmons. 0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:44.839 I'm asking what it is is that you know? Look, 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:47.640 you know, when you're young and you don't know how 0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.839 to play the political game, you rub, you can rub 0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:55.040 people the wrong way like you are the deaf Jam. 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:58.040 But but you don't rub nobody the wrong No, no, no, 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:00.560 But you can't like what I'm saying, sickly is that 0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:04.560 man like you know, nobody's perfect. Man, I don't you know, 0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:08.000 I don't begrudge those guys nothing, because you know the 0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:11.400 resistance that I you know, you know, pressure makes diamonds, man, 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:13.680 you know it could bust Pipce, but it makes diamonds. 0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:16.600 So the resistance that that I felt and the little 0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:18.960 things that they did just encourage me to go out 0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:21.279 there and do something greater, you know what I'm saying, 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:25.680 and just do something and being master. Oh now, if 0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.399 I drink another bottle of Roads, you know we might fly. 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:38.960 I'm gonna be honest, yo, I have never been a 0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.879 man more than I was the man when I had 0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:44.959 you come to my hood. Now, I had you listen 0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:48.000 this day. I had camera come to my hood. I 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.359 had Jim Jones come to my hood. I had run 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:52.880 DMC come to my hood. I had everybody come to 0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:57.120 my hood. But the one thing that everybody said was like, 0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:01.879 we're not going inside. L was the only person said 0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:04.320 I'm going inside. And I'm looking at you like you 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:12.040 said you said, I'm want you. I'm good now. I 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:16.560 love my people, But I still feel like you don't 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:20.320 feel like you don't really realize. No, no, let me 0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:23.239 give you a project. I have to do it. I 0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:25.880 still don't feel like you realized how much that you 0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:30.920 meant to people in Queens. Now, if it's my partner, 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:34.160 he's from Miami, he's born in l A. He might 0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:38.040 have a whole totally different thing. But for us in Queens, 0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.160 there was no other nigga that we wanted to be. 0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:45.680 I mean, nas, I mean, I remember one time me 0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:48.080 and Fat Joe we had an hour and a half 0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:52.840 conversation or who means more to him? L L to 0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:56.719 him or to me? I feel like gonna be that's 0:54:56.760 --> 0:55:00.200 the first time's gonna fight. I said, Fat, Oh, you 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:05.560 can't claim al you're from the Brons. I gotta stop love. 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:12.319 In fact, Joe was like, what my default? You don't 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:14.800 love him as much as I love him my default? 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:18.640 And he just didn't like I'm talking about we seriously arguing. 0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:22.040 I found that this argument happening six times. That's crazy 0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:27.560 and it's a blessing man. But that's that's how real 0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:30.080 hip hop. This is what drink Champs is about. I 0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.160 don't know if you know a drink Champs is about 0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:36.120 giving the stars flowers when they could smell them, and 0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:38.960 give them trees when they could inhale them. Yeah. Yeah, 0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:45.000 because every other genre, every other music when these people 0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:49.759 become icons, the classics, they support them. Why doesn't hip 0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:54.160 hop have that platform? Well, you know, no, you don't 0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:59.600 have this. You're doing it. You don't get smart on 0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:10.120 me smart you're drinking drinking, y'all listen. L L koo 0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:13.120 J came a left rack City and I'm gonna be honest. 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:16.600 I was so embarrassed because I was like, I was like, yo, 0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:18.799 you know when you need to walk through, you walk through. 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.239 I was like, I hope a crackhead and Pete and 0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:25.960 it was mad and I'm looking at him. I'm like, 0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:32.000 this Nick is gonna leave. Don't know, Well, he didn't 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:38.759 smell the bead, he didn't see the bess that I 0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:48.319 don't know. I don't know. But not only that, You're 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:51.960 not only filmed the video, you actually came and chilled 0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:56.480 in Capone's van Fantastic and we started watching the remember, 0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:59.719 and you actually, like people got to really understand how 0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:03.800 cool because you know why we put you on a 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:07.640 pedestal in Queens and we should you deserve that pedestal 0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:10.880 and you should stay in that pedestal. But at the 0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:15.000 same time, people should understand how cool you are, how 0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:18.720 down the earth you are, how how you your say anybody? 0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:20.920 You know what, man, even no matter what I'm doing 0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:23.040 in my life. You know, I always tell people you know, 0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:25.640 I'm in Hollywood, but I never went Hollywood. You know 0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:29.960 what I'm saying. And um, you know, keep talking. Okay, 0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:41.240 I'm like whatever, you know, to take the cameras he's taking. Um, 0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:43.280 So you know that was the thing. You know, this 0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:48.280 is a funny moment, right, but you know that was 0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:49.720 the thing. You know, that was the thing for me. 0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:52.520 You know what I'm saying. Whatever happened to creative man, 0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:57.040 Um'll take the opportunity here now, ja ja, Phil Potter 0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:59.680 is my man, you know what I'm saying. Um, we 0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:02.000 just I just felt like creatively I wanted to stretch 0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:04.160 a little bit and try some new things. But that 0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:06.280 he's always my friend. He's still my friend. We speak 0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:09.800 UM and he does like Tom join up, he does 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:12.680 different cruise, he does different parties. You know what I'm saying. 0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:14.840 He's still working. Yeah, yeah, he's still working. You know. 0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:16.920 But I've been using z Trip you know what I mean. 0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:18.960 Z Tripp has been you know, DJ. Z Trip has 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:27.439 been DJ and for me for Damn featuring Man. Yeah, 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:31.480 that was crazy. Remind me the five heartbeats and some ship. 0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:43.080 But now he's good. I'm looking with z trip for 0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:46.920 about almost ten years. Yeah, yeah, that's my men. Know 0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:49.280 what I'm saying. That's been like a vibe. Listen, I'm 0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:52.840 gonna be honest. When you walk through my hut and 0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:56.800 come right back on and like that, that's that's how happens. 0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:02.400 But I'm not gonna lie. I watched my my nephew 0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:11.160 was here. You gotta relax. I was talking about you 0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:19.919 in theory, your homie in the video. I was talking 0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:23.560 about your theory. I didn't know you, but it meant 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:25.240 so much to our hood. It means so much of 0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:29.280 our neighborhood when you came out. Because we've been to Farmers. 0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:32.680 We understand what Farmers is, the red block, the red, 0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:37.400 black and green rock, how crazy Farmer's Boulevard is like 0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:39.680 from back then, I see a lot of people don't 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:45.680 like Farmers is almost gentrified now almost a little bit. 0:59:47.080 --> 0:59:52.360 Got a whole fools. You gotta hope. Listen. Now they 0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:56.880 still got to you know, na, hell, no old fools 0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:59.640 over there. But it ain't it once you got a 0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:02.040 whole fool. I don't think it's a whole fools over there. 1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:05.760 I feel like places you're gonna juice the ball. You 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:08.880 gotta juice spats over now that Jamaicans is running it. 1:00:09.000 --> 1:00:17.920 That was Maican, always Jamaicans and then a dress spot 1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:21.560 now queens at not Farmers ain't gentrified, but you know 1:00:21.640 --> 1:00:24.120 it's a beautiful community. It may not people may have 1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:26.120 may not have a lot of a lot of money, 1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:28.280 but they got a lot of dignity and they want 1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:30.120 to you know, they want to make something better for 1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:32.240 their families and they want to have a life, you 1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:33.600 know what I'm saying. And that you've got a mountain 1:00:33.640 --> 1:00:36.000 pot of people. You got Haitians, you got Jamaicans, you 1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:38.800 got Dominicans, you got you know, people you know from 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:42.720 all different you know, just like all in that community. 1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:44.560 It's a beautiful I think it's a beautiful place. You 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:48.760 know so well, my friend's staff staff is from Farmers, right, Okay, 1:00:49.440 --> 1:00:51.160 can we ask him if there's a whole fools because 1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:54.560 I'm really not sure. No, he's crazy, he's taking I 1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:59.200 can't even talk, but I love him. I went to 1:00:59.600 --> 1:01:03.800 Google sto, I went to barn didn't go to like 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:07.200 people was like, oh my god, why are you going in, 1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:10.040 but steppers from farmers boulavar So. I used to go 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:11.840 to farmer's bulbar. I used to sit on the brock. 1:01:13.480 --> 1:01:15.960 I just sit on it as a chap. Oh that's crazy. 1:01:16.400 --> 1:01:18.360 But this then then you came out and I was like, 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:21.600 oh my god, I got killed. Yeah, that area now 1:01:21.680 --> 1:01:25.120 it's you know that area has been so because definitely 1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:29.760 it's like all the any other No, no, no, Brosten, 1:01:29.920 --> 1:01:35.880 that's what we're doing. When Irish one shot them on 1:01:37.760 --> 1:01:42.520 non sent five shots would listen. I would take fifty, 1:01:42.520 --> 1:01:47.360 took ninety, took more than that. How actually take five? Okay, 1:01:47.560 --> 1:02:00.640 take fifty took shots is crazy at the I mean 1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:07.800 thank you out together the way I want to make 1:02:07.880 --> 1:02:10.480 you because he got up to fit. That's my man, 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:12.960 that's my man. But I don't drink though, I don't 1:02:13.040 --> 1:02:14.960 drink like that. Now I drink occasionally, but now I 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:18.600 don't drink like that occasions with you like drink champs. 1:02:18.640 --> 1:02:21.160 I'm in a podcast called drink Chips. How can I 1:02:21.240 --> 1:02:26.640 sit here and drink and drink? An let me use 1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:28.520 some more champagne. You want to think good? I'm good 1:02:28.520 --> 1:02:30.640 to take a shot already we had to pay a 1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:44.600 press of talking, ready to drink the house. We had carols. 1:02:45.600 --> 1:02:48.920 We had had a million ties. No caras had a 1:02:48.960 --> 1:02:52.000 million time. I can't lie if hannabis had a million 1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:56.480 caress one man go back to cannabis because I just 1:02:56.640 --> 1:02:59.120 want I just want you to. I just want you 1:02:59.200 --> 1:03:03.840 to understand how you destroyed the man's career. But it 1:03:03.960 --> 1:03:08.600 was dope. I mean, but he can't him out at 1:03:08.600 --> 1:03:11.920 the Barclay Center when I did the concert. But he's 1:03:11.920 --> 1:03:15.040 already bro. But put my arm around him and brought 1:03:15.080 --> 1:03:19.680 him out there. I did. I feel like it was 1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:25.320 too late. You crushed him too late late, baby. But 1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:28.040 in your mind, in your mind, you said, I gotta 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:30.000 cross this little nigg But why did you do that? 1:03:30.080 --> 1:03:32.520 Because you know why defending myself because he was he 1:03:32.640 --> 1:03:35.440 was he was like computer literate at this time when 1:03:35.560 --> 1:03:38.000 nobody else he was the only nigger righting rounds on 1:03:38.040 --> 1:03:40.520 a computer. And I had a session with him and 1:03:40.520 --> 1:03:44.280 I said, what is he doing? He wrote around on 1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:48.280 I didn't like it pre personally, but you you acted 1:03:48.360 --> 1:03:55.440 on that. You ain't like it. HI five for being patty. 1:03:55.480 --> 1:04:02.720 Let's make some yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got 1:04:02.800 --> 1:04:05.240 some petty pills I'll take a petty pill every now. 1:04:05.360 --> 1:04:08.320 Ike petty pill. You're taking a petty pill every now 1:04:08.320 --> 1:04:10.200 and the take a petty pill every day, not every day. 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:13.040 I don't take it every day, you know, I try 1:04:13.080 --> 1:04:15.520 to do my you know, they h they go lower. 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:19.360 I go and the petty bills just in case. It's 1:04:19.360 --> 1:04:22.480 definitely a little bit to go out with that. I'm 1:04:22.520 --> 1:04:26.840 a thought to cloudy behind because I wish I wis 1:04:26.880 --> 1:04:28.320 showing me the best though, you know, I don't want 1:04:28.320 --> 1:04:31.480 to see anybody have it exactly what I'm saying, because 1:04:31.720 --> 1:04:33.880 you know, some people, they don't understand that when you 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:36.960 crush the person career like, you actually crush their life. 1:04:37.520 --> 1:04:39.800 Do you are you ever like? Because you know, Komo 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:41.920 d has never had a hit record since you you 1:04:42.360 --> 1:04:47.640 slaughtered him? White white white, white white white. What do 1:04:50.720 --> 1:04:52.600 Let's you never had to hit record after you dissed him. 1:04:52.600 --> 1:05:03.160 I'm just doing that. Yeah, that's a Now you know, man, listen, 1:05:03.280 --> 1:05:07.400 man his decisions. You gotta make your own decisions. He 1:05:07.440 --> 1:05:10.240 gotta make decisions decisions. You know, you get you know, 1:05:10.360 --> 1:05:12.400 you get to the crossroads. You gotta pick right or left. 1:05:12.640 --> 1:05:15.040 Now you cross these people career, can you say something 1:05:15.200 --> 1:05:20.919 nice for them. No, no, nothing, not nice, but say 1:05:21.000 --> 1:05:23.520 something the reason why? Because why did I do what 1:05:23.600 --> 1:05:28.680 I did? Very simple? Please, I'm making me I'm making 1:05:28.840 --> 1:05:30.360 very easy for you. My thing is this, you know, 1:05:31.000 --> 1:05:33.760 this was my feeling. My feeling is, you know, I 1:05:33.840 --> 1:05:36.400 have a fan base. I have people that you know, 1:05:36.600 --> 1:05:38.920 look to me and enjoy my music and celebrate my art. 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:41.760 If you come out talking about you know, me in 1:05:41.800 --> 1:05:45.000 the fire way and trying to undermine me, you're trying 1:05:45.040 --> 1:05:46.640 to get in my pocket and you're stepping on my 1:05:46.760 --> 1:05:48.560 toes and you're in the way, and I gotta get 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:51.280 you out of the way immediately. And that's why that 1:05:51.400 --> 1:05:54.320 was my thinking on And Mama said, not you out 1:05:54.960 --> 1:06:05.000 at a Minimumum, listen, listen makes dammit, I could be 1:06:05.120 --> 1:06:06.800 your story. I'm so sorry. I was. That was it. 1:06:07.000 --> 1:06:09.920 That was and and and then but Cannabis, I just 1:06:10.040 --> 1:06:14.200 felt like no, because you know what, I don't mean. 1:06:15.720 --> 1:06:20.080 I noticed my nephew relaxed, Relax. Why are you having me? 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:23.480 I want to ask ask some song already you have 1:06:23.600 --> 1:06:27.520 to fight it song with Jamie Fox like that. Any 1:06:27.560 --> 1:06:32.560 given Sunday, I've seen that, I've seen that movie yesterday. 1:06:34.000 --> 1:06:35.880 I don't know why. This is why God is good. 1:06:38.080 --> 1:06:41.920 I'm like, I can't sleep because you know why I 1:06:42.080 --> 1:06:49.800 still listen Petty Pills, just keep you up. I can't 1:06:49.840 --> 1:06:58.080 s Petty, I can't sleep. Let me tell you, let 1:06:58.160 --> 1:07:01.480 me tell you. Listen when when now my interview an artist, 1:07:02.040 --> 1:07:04.520 I want to give them the most respect ever, because 1:07:05.000 --> 1:07:07.760 because hip hop should be a celebration. I sat down 1:07:07.840 --> 1:07:09.800 with Leo Colins the other day and he said, the 1:07:09.880 --> 1:07:18.920 reason why you're winning because this is going to be 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:24.200 you know, you are actually celebrating it. It's don't looking 1:07:24.200 --> 1:07:28.440 at I'm looking right. And then again in Sundays on 1:07:28.560 --> 1:07:31.360 my TV, so I look at it and in mind you, 1:07:31.480 --> 1:07:33.360 I forgot I had did like two or three songs 1:07:33.440 --> 1:07:38.200 for it. So I'm like, oh, my visions business. But 1:07:38.280 --> 1:07:42.560 then I'm looking and I'm like damn. And then when 1:07:42.640 --> 1:07:47.920 you and um Jamie Fox actually interacted and me hearing 1:07:48.040 --> 1:07:51.560 the room was I'm actually looking at it like this 1:07:51.840 --> 1:07:58.880 is great cinema. This is really great cinema, Like this 1:07:59.160 --> 1:08:02.400 is actually now I'll tell you what happened, tell us 1:08:02.440 --> 1:08:04.400 what happened. We don't know what really happened. You know 1:08:04.480 --> 1:08:08.200 the real story is that I am you know when 1:08:08.280 --> 1:08:12.240 we were doing the scene. You know, I think you know, Jamie, 1:08:12.320 --> 1:08:14.760 although he was experienced to someone, he was still a 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:17.000 little green. I wasn't quite as green, but I was 1:08:17.040 --> 1:08:20.880 green too, and you know, you know what I mean 1:08:20.960 --> 1:08:24.040 and experience, you know what I'm saying. So hum we 1:08:24.120 --> 1:08:25.680 were doing the scene, I was being aggressive one. I 1:08:25.720 --> 1:08:28.080 was like, yo, you gotta, but this is character to character. 1:08:28.320 --> 1:08:30.439 I'm like, yo, you gotta, you know, and I'm seeing 1:08:30.479 --> 1:08:35.720 that we talking about or he did something like that. 1:08:35.800 --> 1:08:38.080 I did the huddle after and I'm like, yo, you gotta, 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:40.160 and I'm slapping the shoulders and this and that and 1:08:40.439 --> 1:08:44.840 you know, yeah, okay, but he's got equipment on. It's 1:08:44.880 --> 1:08:50.720 not like you know, like you know, he's got a 1:08:50.800 --> 1:08:53.200 quick it on. You know, yo yo yo. So he 1:08:53.240 --> 1:08:56.080 got up setting and he's like, yo, you know me 1:08:56.280 --> 1:08:59.680 so rough with me. So I was like, you know, 1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:06.320 that didn't compute. So I don't know. So we did 1:09:06.360 --> 1:09:10.840 another take and I was rough with him again, and 1:09:10.960 --> 1:09:13.200 then you know, I don't know why, but you know, 1:09:13.520 --> 1:09:15.000 he thought it was a good idea to punch me 1:09:15.040 --> 1:09:18.479 in my face. Not in the script. No, it wasn't 1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:22.800 the script. No, this wasn't a scripting. No, no, I'm 1:09:22.880 --> 1:09:24.479 keeping hunting with you. You want me to keep it, 1:09:24.560 --> 1:09:26.920 hunt it, keep it, I'm gonnaunch. He punched me in 1:09:26.960 --> 1:09:29.479 my face, so I looked at him. After he pushed 1:09:29.520 --> 1:09:31.160 me on face, I said, what do you do that? 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:34.560 You looked that up pushed me in the face, and 1:09:34.640 --> 1:09:36.519 I looked at him. I slf I would describe to see. 1:09:40.280 --> 1:09:42.000 So I said, I feel like L was like that. 1:09:45.640 --> 1:09:49.000 I fething like that. Not quite. I looked that. I 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:52.320 was a little tight. I was tight, you know, I 1:09:52.439 --> 1:09:54.479 was giving him tight. I was tight. I was getting him. 1:09:54.600 --> 1:09:56.680 So I'm like, looked at him. I said, what did 1:09:56.680 --> 1:09:59.479 you do that? And he said, um, look and he 1:09:59.640 --> 1:10:02.680 like was turned to the side, his helmet on. He 1:10:02.760 --> 1:10:04.280 had his helmet on. He was turned to the side. 1:10:04.600 --> 1:10:07.920 He said, I told you before don't put your hands 1:10:08.000 --> 1:10:20.240 on me. Period. So yo. When he said that, my 1:10:20.400 --> 1:10:22.720 left hand grabbed the face mask and as I was 1:10:22.760 --> 1:10:25.559 pulling his helmet off, my right hand was punching his ship, 1:10:27.400 --> 1:10:31.560 you know, like you know what. And then you know 1:10:31.680 --> 1:10:34.479 he's reading there and I was like, I thought he's 1:10:34.479 --> 1:10:42.640 faking because he sleeps. Then the whole team jumped on me, right, 1:10:43.240 --> 1:10:45.599 so they wrestled me down. You know, the whole team 1:10:45.760 --> 1:10:50.760 are so so so I'm under the huddle and I'm 1:10:50.760 --> 1:10:54.400 like yeah, yeah, and then somebody tries to reach in 1:10:54.520 --> 1:10:56.640 and like give me a little eye. Gal, somebody did 1:10:56.680 --> 1:10:58.560 that right, so oh yeah that was but not a 1:10:58.600 --> 1:11:00.760 good idea because I turned my head to the side 1:11:00.760 --> 1:11:10.360 and he caught us caught his hand. He's like, that 1:11:10.360 --> 1:11:12.599 doesn't given the whole m m A thing do speak 1:11:12.640 --> 1:11:14.200 a Yeah, you're gonna give me the leg lock. I'm 1:11:14.320 --> 1:11:17.679 biting your assick all that leg lock shit, I'm gonna 1:11:17.720 --> 1:11:19.680 bite to throw it off me like we're gon. We 1:11:19.760 --> 1:11:22.240 got to get it in like this. The rule is 1:11:22.280 --> 1:11:27.320 out to the side, and he pulled his hand off 1:11:27.360 --> 1:11:29.439 the thing and then he finally broke it up. And 1:11:29.520 --> 1:11:33.120 then and then but but since then, me and Jamie 1:11:33.160 --> 1:11:35.360 got cool and we have laughed about it. We have 1:11:35.520 --> 1:11:38.200 laughed about it. We made songs together like cool. So 1:11:38.280 --> 1:11:40.320 I don't mind telling the story now. But you know 1:11:40.479 --> 1:11:42.200 what it is, it's just you know, but you know, 1:11:42.280 --> 1:11:45.000 Oliver is crazy. Oliver Stone. He had Yeah, he was 1:11:45.040 --> 1:11:48.080 the rest actually the guy that's actually the sports announcer 1:11:48.200 --> 1:11:51.920 in any given something. He's actually, yes, that's in there 1:11:52.240 --> 1:11:55.240 and I'm wrote He's like, he's who wrote scarf Fakes, 1:11:57.600 --> 1:12:01.360 so tune. You know, he is amazing. So you know, 1:12:01.439 --> 1:12:03.080 it was just a funny time, you know what I'm saying. 1:12:03.120 --> 1:12:05.160 But you know that was the thing. You know, it's 1:12:05.200 --> 1:12:07.240 just you know, Jamie, you know, he just got off, 1:12:07.360 --> 1:12:09.400 you know, he was he was on this Willie Beamon 1:12:09.479 --> 1:12:11.120 and I couldn't take it and all that. But like, 1:12:11.800 --> 1:12:14.040 you know, you know, because you know, you know, and 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:16.479 under the right circumstances, you might let a punch slide. 1:12:16.880 --> 1:12:19.760 You might. I mean, you know, it's not impossible. Now, 1:12:19.840 --> 1:12:22.800 everybody's not a straight murderer all the time. Dude hits you. 1:12:23.080 --> 1:12:25.120 Under the right circumstances, you'd be like if he would 1:12:25.120 --> 1:12:27.560 have said to me, like you know, you know, I 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:29.479 just I would have been lying. You know, I don't 1:12:29.520 --> 1:12:32.519 even know if I could took it. Then I take 1:12:32.600 --> 1:12:34.960 that back, Yeah I could have took it. I couldn't 1:12:34.960 --> 1:12:37.200 take I couldn't handle because you didn't handle it. You 1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:39.880 drove me insane. I would have been waking up in 1:12:39.920 --> 1:12:41.640 the middle of the night just like he played me, 1:12:41.800 --> 1:12:44.200 like I just couldn't take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:12:44.800 --> 1:12:47.120 So because you even beat niggas up. But who broke 1:12:47.160 --> 1:12:48.760 in your house? The niggas that broke in your house, 1:12:48.800 --> 1:12:50.439 you pounding them out? Yeah, I don't want to. That's 1:12:50.520 --> 1:12:52.240 that's a rough one. Note se because the difference with 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:55.000 that is that that wasn't funny because I was terrified. 1:12:55.520 --> 1:12:58.680 Oh worry, we'll half court. I mean, listen, man, if 1:12:58.720 --> 1:13:01.040 it's one in the morning, you know, and you come 1:13:01.120 --> 1:13:04.519 down from tell you your segways on the questions. You're 1:13:04.680 --> 1:13:08.960 very smooth, and it's very attractive. It's very smooth and subtle. 1:13:09.360 --> 1:13:11.840 It's a nice thing you're doing because you hook a scene, 1:13:11.920 --> 1:13:14.320 you get it nice, your baby, you set it out, 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:16.320 you see it out, and the nice thing. You know, 1:13:16.439 --> 1:13:19.679 people are talking this very jelly. That's good. That's good. 1:13:20.000 --> 1:13:25.920 That's good. Attorney, that's good. That's good. That's good. That's 1:13:26.000 --> 1:13:41.559 good for me. That's im. Sorry, it's very smooth. I'm 1:13:41.600 --> 1:13:45.720 so sorry. It was amazing. It was like it was 1:13:45.760 --> 1:13:51.880 wonderful to watch, you know, because I was amazing. I 1:13:52.000 --> 1:13:57.960 was saying at me too, like but not when the 1:13:58.040 --> 1:14:00.280 dude broke in my house. And difference is that, you know, 1:14:00.640 --> 1:14:02.559 I have fights growing up, and we've all all of us. 1:14:02.600 --> 1:14:04.160 I'm sure everybody in this room had fights in the 1:14:04.200 --> 1:14:07.040 hood and different things you scraped or whatever, But but 1:14:07.240 --> 1:14:08.960 how many of us have really four or fire lives. 1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:11.479 Maybe dudes in jail. You might get that feeling, you know, 1:14:11.600 --> 1:14:13.479 you did a big you feel like you're fighting for 1:14:13.560 --> 1:14:16.200 your life, fighting for your life, doesn't It's not the 1:14:16.320 --> 1:14:20.040 same funny feeling like fighting, like in the whole of 1:14:20.240 --> 1:14:22.479 just you know, let's get let's get it, you know. 1:14:22.640 --> 1:14:25.880 I'm like, you know, I'm like like, I'm really this 1:14:26.080 --> 1:14:28.600 is for keeps, you know, I'm gonna get it in 1:14:28.880 --> 1:14:33.040 like whatever. Only read it on TMZ. And so it 1:14:33.160 --> 1:14:35.160 was one in the morning, and uh, you know, the 1:14:35.320 --> 1:14:38.559 the alarm pad went off, but it's you know how 1:14:38.600 --> 1:14:41.599 you have an alarm and like for those of who 1:14:41.640 --> 1:14:43.160 are have an alarmed, it will give you a minute 1:14:43.200 --> 1:14:45.840 to put your cold in it'll go and you have 1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:48.320 to turn your long off with mine just went. And 1:14:48.360 --> 1:14:51.160 so I went to the keypad, small sleep and I'm 1:14:51.200 --> 1:14:55.120 looking at the key pad, I'm like, um, family room 1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:57.760 And she said family, wasn't it. And so I'm thinking, 1:14:57.840 --> 1:15:02.040 what you mean when when its telling you with the 1:15:02.160 --> 1:15:05.640 default is the default? I think that's the word, so, 1:15:06.640 --> 1:15:08.360 you know, and you know, I'm in my drawers this 1:15:08.439 --> 1:15:10.519 one in the morning. So I just said, you know what, 1:15:10.600 --> 1:15:12.760 I'm thinking, it's like my daughter sneaking and you know what, man, 1:15:13.040 --> 1:15:16.639 I don't know she's coming out. I'm like, don him, yeah, 1:15:16.720 --> 1:15:18.160 me going out of here and see what's happening. So 1:15:18.240 --> 1:15:22.400 I'm just walking downstairs my drawers. I turned the law off, 1:15:22.439 --> 1:15:25.960 walks downstairs, come down, and when I was going towards 1:15:26.000 --> 1:15:28.240 the kitchen, he's coming out of the kitchen and then 1:15:28.320 --> 1:15:32.160 we face the face and he's got all black on. 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:34.720 He's got a big bag, he's got the man the 1:15:34.880 --> 1:15:40.000 lawn manson bid boots, you know, and he's looking at black. No, 1:15:40.720 --> 1:15:42.759 he's white. He's a white dude. Are you you pounding 1:15:42.840 --> 1:15:46.280 him out? Me? Oh god, oh god, let's let's go there. 1:15:46.360 --> 1:15:52.360 Oh god. I mean, you know, it was freaky. It 1:15:52.479 --> 1:15:55.559 was freaky. I think, you know, a stupid mother, stupid mother, 1:15:55.880 --> 1:16:00.760 stupid mother, mother, stupid mother, mother, stupid mother, a stupid mother, 1:16:01.360 --> 1:16:05.679 stupid everything you get, every stupid mother you get, stop 1:16:06.360 --> 1:16:09.880 but everywhere. And I was like, you know, and then 1:16:09.920 --> 1:16:11.200 I you know, I got him down, and then it 1:16:11.240 --> 1:16:16.080 took the police about you skipped. You got him down, 1:16:16.160 --> 1:16:20.519 and now I don't want to but how we rock 1:16:20.640 --> 1:16:23.120 for a minute and get hit him with that cross 1:16:23.160 --> 1:16:24.720 fit And when you got your drawers on, that's some 1:16:24.800 --> 1:16:29.160 real like, that's some real gorilla like man, I feel 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:31.679 like you like for the old school dudes. I feel 1:16:31.720 --> 1:16:35.320 like pent tech. You have my drawers all this ship, 1:16:35.680 --> 1:16:40.080 you know, no socks. It's like I'm swinging a room. 1:16:40.520 --> 1:16:44.120 It's like it's made some mind. You want downstairs? You don't. 1:16:44.160 --> 1:16:49.559 You don't know, you yo yo, you and your drawers 1:16:49.600 --> 1:16:51.960 and everything. I don't care. You and your drawers in 1:16:52.040 --> 1:16:54.439 your house, going to get some juice, drinking out the juice, 1:16:54.479 --> 1:16:56.479 but like that nobody knows you drink out of the 1:16:57.720 --> 1:17:10.080 same one you give to all your guess you know, 1:17:11.760 --> 1:17:14.120 you know. And I just went down in their homes, 1:17:14.200 --> 1:17:16.160 came out of nowhere and it was just like, you know, 1:17:16.240 --> 1:17:19.519 it was turning. He was like, I was like, and 1:17:19.600 --> 1:17:21.240 it just you know, we just had the rock like 1:17:22.240 --> 1:17:24.599 and then you know, and I'll tell you the deepest 1:17:24.640 --> 1:17:27.080 thing though, you know, this is the part that's not 1:17:27.240 --> 1:17:30.720 fun even, is that there was a point when I 1:17:30.800 --> 1:17:32.800 had to decide whether or not he should stay alive. 1:17:34.280 --> 1:17:38.200 And him know, when I had him subdued, because I 1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:40.920 didn't know if he had anyone else with him, some dude. 1:17:40.920 --> 1:17:43.360 When I had him, when I had control of the situation, 1:17:43.720 --> 1:17:45.920 when I had him on the ground, on his back, no, 1:17:46.080 --> 1:17:50.680 on his stomach, finished and you know, laying there. I 1:17:50.800 --> 1:17:52.920 had to make that decision because I didn't know if 1:17:53.560 --> 1:17:56.640 he had someone upstairs. You know, I didn't know if 1:17:56.680 --> 1:17:58.360 people were coming from. So I had to think. I 1:17:58.439 --> 1:18:02.479 didn't have rope available. I'm not planning like you know, 1:18:03.120 --> 1:18:05.599 you know, lll Max and like I don't have rope 1:18:06.240 --> 1:18:09.400 rope around the house. And just as after time, somebody, 1:18:09.920 --> 1:18:13.439 you know, so I'm like looking at the do and 1:18:13.520 --> 1:18:16.280 I had to make a decision, you know, you know, 1:18:16.360 --> 1:18:18.400 and I credit I credit someone because she's like I 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:20.960 just just just wait the guy she's calling the cops. 1:18:20.960 --> 1:18:22.519 She got on the nine on one. You know. I 1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:26.120 saw my daughter come down the steps and she's like like, 1:18:26.680 --> 1:18:28.760 what the drawers are I'm like, this is freaky. And 1:18:28.880 --> 1:18:31.840 my youngest daughter slept through the whole thing. She had 1:18:31.880 --> 1:18:35.040 a playmate, she had a playmate or a play date, 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:37.240 and she had you know, somebody over the house. They 1:18:37.240 --> 1:18:39.760 slept through the whole thing, and then her parents was 1:18:39.840 --> 1:18:42.600 the interesting thing. Her parents called the next like that 1:18:42.720 --> 1:18:45.040 morning when we woke up, there was like, oh you know, yeah, 1:18:45.120 --> 1:18:48.240 yeah she can stay. You know, it's no like he's 1:18:48.240 --> 1:18:54.200 got my daughter like to stay true. Just don't know, 1:18:54.400 --> 1:18:57.080 she said she. I'm like, yo, they must be having 1:18:57.080 --> 1:19:00.360 a really good time. Whenever they're doing, they really going 1:19:01.720 --> 1:19:06.200 because okay, So that was it. Because again if people 1:19:06.280 --> 1:19:08.160 telling me you gotta leave, and I gotta respect you 1:19:08.240 --> 1:19:10.320 because I really love you. But before we get up 1:19:10.320 --> 1:19:14.439 out of here, I need to know about raised out. 1:19:15.320 --> 1:19:19.479 She was raised represent Queen, She was raised represent represent Queen. 1:19:19.520 --> 1:19:22.160 She was raised in Brooken. What about it? I just 1:19:22.280 --> 1:19:25.400 needed you to break that down. I represent Queen because 1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:31.000 Angie Martinez forever, I thought it was about her. That's serious. 1:19:35.240 --> 1:19:39.360 Not saying the record was about I'm saying she represented 1:19:39.439 --> 1:19:43.240 that record. She always okay, I'm always I'm not saying that. 1:19:45.000 --> 1:19:52.519 Let me get up like it's my first step, you 1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:55.680 know what happened to life? I didn't mean like that, 1:19:55.800 --> 1:19:58.880 but I mean like because she was oh yeah, yeah, no, no, 1:19:59.160 --> 1:20:02.439 it's just a record, like you know, that was it 1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:05.280 was what it was, you know, it was it was 1:20:05.320 --> 1:20:08.320 funny because you know that was a beat that Richard 1:20:08.439 --> 1:20:10.840 had let me hear. It's lights and blinking and don't 1:20:10.840 --> 1:20:13.040 worry about it. Oh, I thought it was the roll, 1:20:15.960 --> 1:20:19.639 you know, I just uh that beat. You know, Puffy 1:20:19.720 --> 1:20:23.240 actually had wanted that beat for Biggie and uh, you 1:20:23.320 --> 1:20:27.240 know he called me, I want my beat back, not 1:20:27.439 --> 1:20:35.040 so much. I love you but and I'm no. But 1:20:35.200 --> 1:20:37.360 you know, Pustle my man and Big understood. You know 1:20:37.360 --> 1:20:40.040 what I'm saying. It was mine. It was what it was. 1:20:40.120 --> 1:20:41.920 It was just like you know, you know how producers 1:20:42.000 --> 1:20:44.719 they play everybody beats and Biggie you know, he really, 1:20:44.840 --> 1:20:46.519 you know, God bless him me. He rest in pieces 1:20:46.560 --> 1:20:49.200 of talented artists. Um, he really had his heart set 1:20:49.240 --> 1:20:51.720 on that one, you know. But you know that's how 1:20:51.760 --> 1:20:57.960 it went. Who's your favorite producer? Producer? I'll getting the 1:20:58.000 --> 1:21:00.880 stupid or what it's say. I mean, it's some amazing 1:21:00.960 --> 1:21:03.040 producers out there, man, it would be. I mean, give 1:21:03.080 --> 1:21:08.040 me one, I don't even want to say, man, give 1:21:08.080 --> 1:21:11.640 me two, I don't even want to say. But yo, 1:21:11.720 --> 1:21:14.680 it's some crazy producers. Three give me a topers, some 1:21:14.800 --> 1:21:22.840 top three, top three? Okay? Um, I think uh, I 1:21:22.920 --> 1:21:28.680 think Dre is serious. I agree, I think, Um, I 1:21:28.760 --> 1:21:34.920 think Timberland is serious. And uh I didn't expect that one. Um. 1:21:40.600 --> 1:21:42.080 You know it's been a while, but you know, Molly 1:21:42.240 --> 1:21:44.600 was really really serious, you know what I mean in 1:21:44.720 --> 1:21:50.400 Primo and Premo. You know Premo serious really really I 1:21:50.479 --> 1:21:56.000 wanted you to say, Molly Mam like yo, yo, listen man, 1:21:56.040 --> 1:21:57.800 I you know I love all of these dudes. Man, 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:02.479 my son, my son is scared to walk through ye 1:22:02.720 --> 1:22:07.320 give them five, Give them five and you're revolt TV 1:22:07.479 --> 1:22:13.479 got damn because this is because this is because you 1:22:13.520 --> 1:22:15.160 know your people are telling me you gotta go, and 1:22:15.200 --> 1:22:17.880 I gotta respect your people. Yeah. So, and you know what, 1:22:18.040 --> 1:22:21.320 because I respect you because if it wasn't for you 1:22:21.760 --> 1:22:24.080 in a lot of ways, it wouldn't beat me. And 1:22:24.360 --> 1:22:27.840 I always respect. I respect you too. But I have 1:22:28.040 --> 1:22:30.120 to ask because I feel like you brought this to 1:22:30.240 --> 1:22:34.760 hip hop, the go the greatest of all time. That 1:22:35.320 --> 1:22:40.400 phrase came from you know, I got it. I got 1:22:40.479 --> 1:22:43.080 it from Ali. You know what I'm saying. We didn't 1:22:43.120 --> 1:22:44.960 know that from you know Ali. You know what we're saying, 1:22:44.960 --> 1:22:46.320 the greatest all time. But I made it to go 1:22:48.439 --> 1:22:51.479 all time. I think I probably have one of the 1:22:51.600 --> 1:22:55.360 greatest careers. You know, I think that on any given day, 1:22:55.400 --> 1:22:58.360 somebody can make a better song. But it's really about 1:22:59.320 --> 1:23:05.120 a career, um and it's about Yeah, you are the 1:23:05.200 --> 1:23:12.080 greatest all time. I appreciated. I feel like, you know, 1:23:12.200 --> 1:23:13.760 a lot of times, a lot of times you gotta 1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:15.840 remember that. You know. I don't know, you know, but 1:23:16.880 --> 1:23:18.640 if I got popped when Mama said knock you out, 1:23:18.720 --> 1:23:21.160 came out, maybe people would feel different about me. You 1:23:21.240 --> 1:23:23.559 gotta relax because you want that, you know, you want 1:23:23.600 --> 1:23:25.719 what I'm saying. What I'm saying like if if something 1:23:25.760 --> 1:23:29.080 had if I was you know, got shot or was 1:23:29.240 --> 1:23:33.120 finished up or got done, if somebody didn't, No, I 1:23:33.280 --> 1:23:35.880 never received that at all. God No, I don't know 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:38.839 if rock him would have went away. What I'm basically 1:23:38.960 --> 1:23:44.120 saying is that that there is something magical that happens 1:23:45.000 --> 1:23:48.840 with great artists when they're not here and they get 1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:53.439 you know, looked at, people grow to appreciate them. But 1:23:53.479 --> 1:23:56.000 it's magical happening with you right now. What you're being 1:23:56.120 --> 1:24:01.639 doing TV Blessed Lips, think Battle. We are all sitting 1:24:01.680 --> 1:24:06.120 bast like everything's all moves. I make hip hop right now, 1:24:06.680 --> 1:24:09.439 You had to be hit. But but I wanted to 1:24:09.520 --> 1:24:12.559 be here and you came here because you hip hop 1:24:12.680 --> 1:24:15.599 and you and you hip hop. Thank you, thank you out. 1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:18.120 But I just want you to know that if you 1:24:18.320 --> 1:24:21.040 never heard it before, even though you brung this um 1:24:21.200 --> 1:24:24.479 phrase to hip hop, you are the greatest of all time. 1:24:24.560 --> 1:24:27.320 Thank you. I appreciate it. And what's what's really? You? Alive? 1:24:27.800 --> 1:24:30.360 I am? I am? I'm truly I am. There's a 1:24:30.400 --> 1:24:33.920 lot of people were saying it's all time recipes. That's true, 1:24:34.160 --> 1:24:37.000 that's true. I rather recipe. I'd much rather be alive 1:24:37.040 --> 1:24:42.040 in debating it. How about that one we're saying the 1:24:42.120 --> 1:24:47.599 greatest live in them. You know, we're saying the greatest 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:56.720 all the time. Ain't of my role sting for it's 1:24:56.760 --> 1:24:59.880 time that makes it time. But listen out. We were 1:25:00.040 --> 1:25:02.560 appreciate you out. I know you gotta go, We know 1:25:02.680 --> 1:25:06.280 you're on a schedule. We understand everything you do. This 1:25:06.400 --> 1:25:09.960 is what we do, what our our culture, our society. 1:25:10.760 --> 1:25:13.559 Excuse me, everybody up there and be quiet. Our society 1:25:13.640 --> 1:25:16.519 is about giving our legends flowers when they can smell them, 1:25:16.840 --> 1:25:18.639 and give them trees when they can in hell them. 1:25:19.040 --> 1:25:22.840 And because you know why, our culture. When you get 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:25.280 the thirty years, you get to forty years, you get 1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:28.000 to forty five or fifty years, they ride us off. 1:25:28.320 --> 1:25:32.519 But meanwhile Motley Crew was out there touring meanwhile fucking 1:25:33.240 --> 1:25:34.920 rolling Stones. And I don't got no beef with them. 1:25:35.000 --> 1:25:39.920 I don't give myself, but I want to continue to 1:25:40.040 --> 1:25:43.720 support our culture. And you know, also what would help 1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:48.439 that is, you know, if the veteran artists make better 1:25:48.560 --> 1:25:54.599 decisions and if they value themselves. You know, I am humble, 1:25:54.640 --> 1:25:56.840 that's true, but I do know my value. No, we know, 1:25:56.960 --> 1:25:59.200 you know, and I understand who I am. I'm clear 1:25:59.200 --> 1:26:02.240 about that, and you know my business decisions and the 1:26:02.320 --> 1:26:06.439 moves that I may reflect that. And you know, you know, 1:26:06.520 --> 1:26:08.599 I think a lot of our artists, you know, they 1:26:08.680 --> 1:26:11.439 forget who they are and then you know, they think 1:26:11.479 --> 1:26:14.320 that it's about your last hot record. But it's not. 1:26:14.920 --> 1:26:18.280 It's more than that. It's more than just need their head. 1:26:18.520 --> 1:26:22.120 It's not everybody be quiet, because I ain't gonna lie. 1:26:22.200 --> 1:26:24.120 I need to hear you know. It's not it's about 1:26:24.560 --> 1:26:26.720 your career. It's about you know. That's one of the 1:26:26.720 --> 1:26:28.759 things Russell told me earlier, is about having a career. 1:26:29.320 --> 1:26:31.280 You know, I could go out and play, you know, 1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:34.479 you know, and have fifty sixty seventy thousand people out there. 1:26:35.040 --> 1:26:37.040 I can go out there and you know, do festivals. 1:26:37.439 --> 1:26:39.600 I can go do different things. And I think that, 1:26:40.400 --> 1:26:43.320 you know, our veterans sometimes they forget that, they forget 1:26:43.360 --> 1:26:46.559 who they are. They get lost, they get discouraged because 1:26:46.840 --> 1:26:49.439 they make it about the radio. They make it about 1:26:49.560 --> 1:26:55.840 only fourteen year olds. They make it about but yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:26:55.880 --> 1:27:10.120 I gotta television now, you know, destroy me, you know. 1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:13.479 So I just you know, I just think we just 1:27:13.600 --> 1:27:16.639 have to know who we are. We gotta believe in ourselves. 1:27:17.240 --> 1:27:18.680 You know, I wouldn't. What I would say to you, 1:27:18.880 --> 1:27:20.600 to all of viewers is that you gotta remember that 1:27:20.720 --> 1:27:23.479 dreams don't have deadlines, and you gotta remember never to 1:27:23.600 --> 1:27:26.000 limit yourself. You know. Colonel Sanders started Kentucky for you 1:27:26.120 --> 1:27:28.880 Chicken at sixty five years old. There are no limits 1:27:28.960 --> 1:27:31.200 on this thing. You can be successful as long as 1:27:31.240 --> 1:27:34.479 you want to be successful. You know. Michael Jackson had 1:27:34.520 --> 1:27:36.640 he he May Rest in Peace, had hot records, he 1:27:36.720 --> 1:27:39.000 had a sold out world tour coming. He was fifty 1:27:39.040 --> 1:27:42.280 years old when he passed. Don't under don't you know 1:27:43.560 --> 1:27:50.000 overestimate the gift of youth and underestimate the gift of experience. 1:27:50.760 --> 1:27:55.800 You know what I'm saying because you know, and like 1:27:55.880 --> 1:27:57.519 I say to all the artists out there, like there's 1:27:57.520 --> 1:27:59.400 a lot of a lot of people found out when 1:27:59.400 --> 1:28:01.720 they put their gets on SoundCloud that it's not as 1:28:01.760 --> 1:28:05.320 easy to make hot shit as you thought them four views? 1:28:06.400 --> 1:28:08.439 How you like them four or five years? That's that 1:28:08.520 --> 1:28:11.479 trip I was not working for you. You know, remember 1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:14.320 you and you were critiquing my album, but one you 1:28:14.400 --> 1:28:18.200 said it was trash. You know you got trash because 1:28:18.240 --> 1:28:22.040 it only way gold? How do fur views feel like? 1:28:23.080 --> 1:28:27.599 You know what I mean? You know, you know you can? 1:28:27.680 --> 1:28:31.639 You can you lead the Betty game with me because 1:28:31.680 --> 1:28:34.760 you know, because when it's like they threw them, It's 1:28:34.760 --> 1:28:37.320 like if if one thing I will say about hip 1:28:37.320 --> 1:28:39.599 hop is a funny just a sideball, if hip hop 1:28:39.720 --> 1:28:41.400 was the NBA, it's like they took the ball and 1:28:41.479 --> 1:28:44.439 through it to the stands. It's like a mike, Like 1:28:44.560 --> 1:28:46.519 we just said, they just threw the audience in the 1:28:46.560 --> 1:28:49.960 crowd and say y'all do it. So now everybody's you know, 1:28:50.080 --> 1:28:54.080 because for every chance, who is truly talented and yes, 1:28:54.520 --> 1:28:56.680 every one of them. There's a thousand of them that 1:28:56.800 --> 1:28:59.040 didn't do it. So what am I saying? Basically, what 1:28:59.120 --> 1:29:04.280 I'm saying is there is some skill involved with this 1:29:05.040 --> 1:29:08.519 and it does take talent, and it isn't luck. We 1:29:08.640 --> 1:29:10.960 all need a little bit of luck sprinkled in our lives. 1:29:11.320 --> 1:29:13.640 But the guys who made it yourself, some of the 1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:15.840 other artists, you name some of these guys, your favorite 1:29:15.920 --> 1:29:20.160 rappers and artists, and they are talented. And you know, 1:29:20.880 --> 1:29:23.200 so what what the Internet has showed us is it's 1:29:23.240 --> 1:29:25.479 it's given us the opportunity to find out that, guess what, 1:29:25.680 --> 1:29:29.000 rappers really are talented. These guys really have talent, they 1:29:29.080 --> 1:29:32.640 really are artists. Because if that wasn't true, then everybody 1:29:32.760 --> 1:29:36.160 would be on, Yeah, there's a few hit what one 1:29:36.200 --> 1:29:38.639 hit one that's here and there, But this thing takes talent, 1:29:39.840 --> 1:29:41.960 you know. So you know, I think that that's just 1:29:42.080 --> 1:29:44.479 something that and those old school guys out there, they 1:29:44.560 --> 1:29:47.000 need to just make better decisions and remember that they're 1:29:47.040 --> 1:29:51.240 talented and not be not be overwhelmed by this idea 1:29:51.360 --> 1:29:54.640 that you're obsolete and irrelevant. This is not you know, 1:29:55.280 --> 1:29:57.360 when you're thirty five years old, you don't need to 1:29:57.439 --> 1:30:00.320 keep going back to your prom You know you don't 1:30:00.320 --> 1:30:02.040 have tell me life like you're going back to the 1:30:02.120 --> 1:30:06.840 prompt thirty nine exactly. I'll be forty this year, you know, Joan. Really, 1:30:07.520 --> 1:30:10.519 I'm doing three parties l A, New York and Miami. 1:30:10.720 --> 1:30:12.439 I love him. Can I have your party one of them? 1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:14.080 I don't know. I don't know why I threw that 1:30:14.160 --> 1:30:16.640 in there. I don't know why because I'm trying to. 1:30:18.840 --> 1:30:20.240 I mean, how you thinking we got here? You know, 1:30:20.240 --> 1:30:22.439 I don't believe. Let me tell you something. Really, look 1:30:22.479 --> 1:30:26.000 around at the life you created. Really, look at this. 1:30:26.320 --> 1:30:31.639 This is unbelievable. I don't let me tell you something. 1:30:32.400 --> 1:30:36.200 I love wis capon he Yo, listen. I'm gonna snuff 1:30:36.320 --> 1:30:39.320 him soon because he told me he's supposed to be 1:30:39.400 --> 1:30:41.960 it because listen, listen, listen. I don't. I don't. I 1:30:42.000 --> 1:30:47.040 don't invite him the podcast. But when he hit me 1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:50.800 earlier and then listen, you know, I lie because I'll 1:30:50.840 --> 1:30:54.120 come from by later. So I lied to them. Oh yeah, 1:30:55.400 --> 1:30:59.920 you're talking. I know what had you locked there? Two thirty? 1:31:00.400 --> 1:31:03.400 But I told him, of course you did, because I 1:31:03.479 --> 1:31:07.000 come from Chris Ldy School. You know, we can't we 1:31:07.080 --> 1:31:09.720 can't fall asleep in the get away car though. You 1:31:09.800 --> 1:31:11.600 know people fall asleep in the get away cars, like 1:31:12.280 --> 1:31:14.080 take the bucket to check off lap and get out 1:31:14.080 --> 1:31:15.880 the car place. It's like, you know, we gotta you 1:31:15.920 --> 1:31:20.120 gotta be on time. That's another thing any discipline be on. 1:31:20.600 --> 1:31:23.080 Can we teach the youth about being on time? Because 1:31:23.160 --> 1:31:27.479 let me tell you something just now. Recently I've been 1:31:27.600 --> 1:31:29.920 you know, doing what I gotta do to Leo hits 1:31:30.000 --> 1:31:32.720 me and Lee all goes, I need to meet you 1:31:32.840 --> 1:31:40.439 at the Polo lounge. Right, This is no because I 1:31:40.520 --> 1:31:44.599 know it's loaded. His skin was already set. It's already 1:31:44.720 --> 1:31:48.720 to meet you at the poll up. It's like it's 1:31:48.760 --> 1:31:52.840 like me, we set it all up, but me and 1:31:52.880 --> 1:31:59.360 Ali is only there. Leo is already there. But he 1:31:59.479 --> 1:32:02.400 told us to mean there's at eight o'clock. But this 1:32:02.439 --> 1:32:06.400 is what I'm trying to tell young people, is he 1:32:06.560 --> 1:32:09.840 told me to meet him at eight o'clock. We pulled 1:32:09.920 --> 1:32:13.479 up at seven five and he was already ready. There 1:32:13.560 --> 1:32:17.040 you go. He's sitting there like this, let's go, And 1:32:17.120 --> 1:32:21.080 I'm like, holy sh the best chair in the meeting 1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:32.200 and all that to get there. Yeah, listen, So this 1:32:32.360 --> 1:32:36.880 is what I'm trying to tell young people. You're not 1:32:37.000 --> 1:32:39.760 supposed to show up at eight fifteen when it's eight 1:32:39.800 --> 1:32:42.719 o'clocks me and peoples to show up at seven forty 1:32:42.840 --> 1:32:46.840 five and scope out the joint. And also I would 1:32:46.840 --> 1:32:50.200 also say this, I would say that, you know, the cockiness, 1:32:51.280 --> 1:32:53.920 it's great for the records. Yes, if I make a 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:56.120 ready to come to business, if I make a record tomorrow, 1:32:56.400 --> 1:32:58.160 it's gonna be the cockiest thing you've ever heard in 1:32:58.200 --> 1:33:02.960 your life. But in between, it's it's okay to be humble. 1:33:03.400 --> 1:33:07.280 No humility. Humility is okay. I didn't say sudo. I 1:33:07.320 --> 1:33:09.760 didn't say sudo. I don't know what SUIT don't mean. Yeah, 1:33:09.960 --> 1:33:18.439 you know, I'm yeah, I'm fourth, but you know, fake 1:33:18.560 --> 1:33:23.559 humility like you know, you know, but just be humble, 1:33:23.680 --> 1:33:26.400 you know what I'm saying. And you know people want 1:33:26.400 --> 1:33:28.120 to help you. Then you know you ain't gotta be 1:33:28.280 --> 1:33:30.559 you know all that all the time, you know, leaving 1:33:30.600 --> 1:33:33.080 on the records, leaving on your music, leaving on stage. 1:33:33.560 --> 1:33:35.120 But other than that, just be you. You know what 1:33:35.160 --> 1:33:36.920 I'm saying. And I think you get a lot a 1:33:37.000 --> 1:33:39.760 lot further, you know, in your career. Okay, before we 1:33:39.840 --> 1:33:41.360 get you get about here because I know you gotta 1:33:41.360 --> 1:33:44.640 go because Claude is over there. You gotta go. But 1:33:44.920 --> 1:33:49.200 you actually have It's not just lip Sync Battle. It's 1:33:49.240 --> 1:33:51.679 not just you know, you're playing these others. You actually 1:33:51.720 --> 1:33:55.880 have a production describe to these young black kids. Yeah, 1:33:55.880 --> 1:33:59.920 well you can actually how people. Well, I co produced 1:34:00.120 --> 1:34:04.200 UM the Grammy nomination show for for about five years. 1:34:05.200 --> 1:34:07.360 I'm a producer on lip Sync Battle was well, did 1:34:07.400 --> 1:34:09.160 you know how lightly he said that? You know what 1:34:09.200 --> 1:34:11.680 I'm saying, I think we should make noise for that. 1:34:14.479 --> 1:34:17.000 If somebody has, you know, if somebody has you know, 1:34:17.160 --> 1:34:19.760 TV ideas or ideas that I think are worthy. I'm 1:34:19.800 --> 1:34:23.200 not gonna like everything. If I don't like it. If 1:34:23.200 --> 1:34:25.240 I don't like it, I'm gonna tell tell a person 1:34:25.320 --> 1:34:28.160 like I can send him to Claudine something like that. 1:34:28.320 --> 1:34:34.120 But we gotta be easy. It's a million people. Let 1:34:34.200 --> 1:34:36.799 me just tell you that one thing for Charltoning for certain, 1:34:37.400 --> 1:34:42.519 when Violator dispersed, it was probably the saddest day of 1:34:42.560 --> 1:34:46.559 my life. It was crazy because I didn't know anything 1:34:46.680 --> 1:34:49.360 other than Chris Likedy. I didn't know other things other 1:34:49.439 --> 1:34:55.320 than Claudine, Laurie Dublin's and so on. So Scott, I 1:34:55.400 --> 1:34:58.320 didn't know nothing. I feel you. So when when when 1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:02.000 Chris went away, it was probably the saddest day of 1:35:02.080 --> 1:35:05.680 my life. I feel you because I just didn't know what. 1:35:05.680 --> 1:35:10.559 I don't know what to do called Buster and Buster 1:35:11.320 --> 1:35:14.880 was already had another and he had now he was 1:35:14.920 --> 1:35:17.800 with James at that time for a minute, but it 1:35:17.960 --> 1:35:20.280 was like another management. It wasn't It wasn't like James 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:23.600 was at the time. And I was just lost, like 1:35:23.760 --> 1:35:29.240 I just now finding myself with me personally. And one 1:35:29.280 --> 1:35:34.040 of the the very first persons people, I'm sorry, I said, persons, 1:35:34.680 --> 1:35:39.520 I'm like dyslexic. So as Claudine, and I said, Claudine 1:35:39.760 --> 1:35:46.240 was she has never ever made me question her. He 1:35:46.400 --> 1:35:49.280 has never ever done anything. And the fact that Claudine 1:35:49.439 --> 1:35:51.559 is with you and lets me know that you really 1:35:52.040 --> 1:35:55.120 living out violator brother, and I love you, my brother. 1:35:55.920 --> 1:35:58.360 I love I love that woman. Let's love. I love 1:35:58.479 --> 1:36:02.240 that woman. I love like Lolaudie. I love Claudine like 1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:04.720 you don't understand. And she actually said, yeah, I want 1:36:04.720 --> 1:36:07.400 to meet your wife. And I made sure my wife 1:36:07.520 --> 1:36:10.760 came just to meet Claudine because she means so much 1:36:10.800 --> 1:36:13.600 to my life. Like I'm gonna be honest with you. 1:36:13.720 --> 1:36:14.960 And I went and look for her. And when I 1:36:16.240 --> 1:36:30.200 I can't, I can't afforder up here, I can't do it. 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:38.400 It was seven I was. I'm like that. But I 1:36:38.479 --> 1:36:42.400 can't thank you enough because you know what everything, that's 1:36:42.439 --> 1:36:45.639 where we all Chris likedys likely to keep his legacy 1:36:46.120 --> 1:36:48.559 first of all, you know, oh Chris on so many levels. 1:36:48.600 --> 1:36:51.720 I mean my Mr. Smith album, him connecting me with 1:36:51.800 --> 1:36:54.280 the track masters, we did that whole doing it recond 1:36:54.320 --> 1:36:57.479 you talk to this was done with me when we 1:36:57.560 --> 1:37:01.840 did that song. Um, you know Chris, you know, she's queen, 1:37:01.960 --> 1:37:09.400 she was raised a together. I gotta meet you know. Yeah, 1:37:09.560 --> 1:37:15.320 well but yeah, Chris was. He was a special guy 1:37:15.400 --> 1:37:17.840 and you know he's definitely be sorely missed. And um, 1:37:18.520 --> 1:37:21.000 I try to pay it forward by, you know, looking 1:37:21.040 --> 1:37:23.439 out for Tiffany. You know, when she's in l A, 1:37:23.560 --> 1:37:26.840 she stays with me, Um, you know, making sure that 1:37:26.960 --> 1:37:31.600 she's good. L Nori and Buster created a new violator 1:37:32.479 --> 1:37:34.640 and because you know, you know, let me just tell 1:37:34.680 --> 1:37:38.400 you something, al And I'm sorry it's gonna get very touchy, 1:37:38.600 --> 1:37:43.360 not for you, not for anybody here. But the other 1:37:43.479 --> 1:37:48.760 day d m X performed right where in the ball 1:37:48.800 --> 1:37:53.240 Clay Center. Okay, the whole hip hop said, damn, Max, 1:37:53.280 --> 1:37:57.000 don't look good. You know, he looks like he's smoking 1:37:57.760 --> 1:38:03.200 whatever whatever. But isn't it hops responsibility to say that 1:38:03.320 --> 1:38:05.840 this man gave us ten million records, this man gave 1:38:05.920 --> 1:38:08.559 us such and such. Why don't we just come take 1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:11.800 him and put him in the rehab or put him 1:38:11.840 --> 1:38:14.880 to whatever he needs to do to be safe. But 1:38:15.120 --> 1:38:17.160 you know what, hip hop don't have a union to 1:38:17.280 --> 1:38:21.639 do that. L is great, Nor's great, if Fin is great, 1:38:22.000 --> 1:38:25.560 Rich Blanco is great, Brandy Acca is great. Shouldn't we 1:38:25.640 --> 1:38:29.720 give one percent of something so that if anything like 1:38:29.880 --> 1:38:33.360 this happens, like Chris Lidy passing Tiffany, don't have to 1:38:33.439 --> 1:38:38.240 worry like DMX you know, have to go on the rehab. 1:38:38.720 --> 1:38:41.559 We can take care of that. I feel like hip hop, 1:38:41.920 --> 1:38:45.800 oh's hip hop? That am I bucking? Hell? No, you know, 1:38:45.920 --> 1:38:50.920 bugging you know, But um, that's that's a very complicated thing, 1:38:51.000 --> 1:38:53.599 you know. I mean, you know what you're talking about. 1:38:53.640 --> 1:38:58.599 I mean, you know sonns can't get their mothers off drugs. Man, 1:38:58.960 --> 1:39:01.040 you know that's a tough one. No, No, I don't 1:39:01.120 --> 1:39:03.680 understand what you're saying, but in terms of you know, 1:39:03.920 --> 1:39:06.800 unionizing hip hop and and you know, it's something to 1:39:06.840 --> 1:39:11.240 think about. Um strong management can you know, can create 1:39:11.320 --> 1:39:15.240 that kind of a vibe. It's not not it's nothing nothing. 1:39:15.640 --> 1:39:18.120 Look the laborers, look the people, the guys on the 1:39:18.200 --> 1:39:20.320 ground floor, to guys who had three four songs, the 1:39:20.400 --> 1:39:22.680 guys who you know, it would be great if they 1:39:22.720 --> 1:39:28.000 had the medical come on, we better but three or 1:39:28.040 --> 1:39:30.280 four or four? But three or four? So look Rob 1:39:30.360 --> 1:39:35.560 Basin DJ Easy Rock don't deserve to be they But 1:39:43.760 --> 1:39:45.479 I think, yeah, I don't think it's nothing wrong. I 1:39:45.560 --> 1:39:47.920 think that's a good idea. But I think people take it. 1:39:48.000 --> 1:39:49.799 Takes a lot of time and a lot of commitment. 1:39:49.880 --> 1:39:51.840 There's real there's you know, you have to be real 1:39:51.880 --> 1:39:53.760 about things like but if you gave ten years of 1:39:53.840 --> 1:39:57.240 hip hop right right, you're dedicated to hip hop. Now 1:39:57.400 --> 1:40:02.320 you you you developed something type of disease. It only 1:40:02.400 --> 1:40:05.400 take forty to get to take to get rid of 1:40:05.479 --> 1:40:08.040 a disease. And there's people like us who have it. 1:40:09.080 --> 1:40:11.760 I'll give a band, You'll give a band, Jaz, give 1:40:11.760 --> 1:40:16.720 a band whatever sending that person's you know, I would 1:40:16.760 --> 1:40:19.200 always be willing to contribute to something like that as 1:40:19.280 --> 1:40:21.160 long as I know, dudes, ain't you know? No, No, No, 1:40:21.760 --> 1:40:30.280 it's transparent. It's transparent. A little profile. Who got them 1:40:30.360 --> 1:40:38.120 new perilities? Aunt that? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's transparent. We 1:40:38.200 --> 1:40:41.400 gotta be transparent, yes, because you know why, because the 1:40:41.479 --> 1:40:43.960 thing is, I don't want to give extra five thousand 1:40:44.120 --> 1:40:45.760 that I don't want to. I would totally, I would. 1:40:45.760 --> 1:40:48.880 I would have no problem with you know, look, you're 1:40:48.920 --> 1:40:52.040 not gonna be successful if you don't give period. Anyway, 1:40:52.439 --> 1:40:54.839 that's just part of it. You know, that comes with territory. 1:40:55.200 --> 1:40:56.400 So if you think you're gonna be able to be 1:40:56.439 --> 1:40:58.639 a selfish prick and be successful, it's not gonna happen. 1:40:58.800 --> 1:41:01.760 You're gonna be because it. People that are successful are 1:41:01.800 --> 1:41:04.800 successful because of the things they do right, and they 1:41:04.920 --> 1:41:07.559 departs of their life where they fail. They're unsuccessful because 1:41:07.600 --> 1:41:11.120 of the things they do incorrectly. And so you know, 1:41:11.200 --> 1:41:13.599 because a lot of times people think me, an evil 1:41:13.680 --> 1:41:17.040 guy is successful because he's evil. No, he's successful because 1:41:17.040 --> 1:41:20.479 he's doing something right. He also will reap the rewards 1:41:20.520 --> 1:41:23.640 are being evil in another area. So don't confuse it. 1:41:24.040 --> 1:41:28.200 People are successful because of what they do right, period, 1:41:29.240 --> 1:41:31.360 and they lose because of what they do wrong. You 1:41:31.400 --> 1:41:34.800 know what I mean? Just like sports, you win because 1:41:34.840 --> 1:41:41.880 of what you did right, but there's repercussions for other things. Flagrance, 1:41:43.320 --> 1:41:48.640 you know, whatever, you know turn over like so you 1:41:48.720 --> 1:41:51.920 know it's consequences are you're mass smart. I just gotta 1:41:51.920 --> 1:41:55.240 make noise for you being mass small. But I don't 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:02.040 one drop you in love y'all need you any ship 1:42:02.080 --> 1:42:04.160 being open the hank No, I'm good, I got you. 1:42:04.280 --> 1:42:06.960 Whatever you braby, I'm thank you, thank you,