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Speaker 1: we have what I would like to call the King
Speaker 1: of hip hop, what I would like to call the
Speaker 1: King of alternate. What I mean by that is after
Speaker 1: your career has been done, He's the person who put
Speaker 1: out the blueprint for what you're supposed to do after
Speaker 1: your robs. This motherfucker is the King of Queens. I'm
Speaker 1: saying it. I'm from Queens. I feel like I have
Speaker 1: the authority. Is the King of Queens, the King of
Speaker 1: New York, the King of hip hop. First artist ever
Speaker 1: signed to Deaf Jam Rackets which means that I might
Speaker 1: have not existed if it wasn't for this one A
Speaker 1: lot of this real ship. And right now we got
Speaker 1: the god father. I might, I might just call him
Speaker 1: the father a motherfucking queens, New York and everything else
Speaker 1: we got, and the motherfucker appreciate that. L Listen, Can
Speaker 1: I call you? Of course in my mind and my
Speaker 1: mind always call your uncle El in my mind. I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I like even when you say with
Speaker 1: something to me, I'd be like, you know, like I
Speaker 1: just I got so much respect for you, thank you,
Speaker 1: not for you. And then and then you came to
Speaker 1: my hood though, remember came to my hod. It made
Speaker 1: me like And then run DMC came to and Diggie
Speaker 1: Simmons came, and then Dickie Simmons he's he's smashing all
Speaker 1: the little girls in my hood now. But you're putting
Speaker 1: foul run around. But we got this baby. I don't
Speaker 1: care what you say, but I gotta, I gotta, I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you how how important you mean the queens, Uh,
Speaker 1: not only queens, because if you look at queens, you
Speaker 1: look at people like you Nas, Run DMC, you gotta
Speaker 1: look at the whole spectrum of hip hop. So if
Speaker 1: you say a person was a leader queens, a person
Speaker 1: was actually the leader of a whole generation. So now
Speaker 1: you have people like Drake, you have people like Ja Rule,
Speaker 1: you have people all these people who actually they can't
Speaker 1: say that they didn't pattern their style after you. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? Well, you know, um, you
Speaker 1: know hip hop is you know, hip hop is a
Speaker 1: complex thing, man. I mean at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like you know, you know, if you're a decent looking fellow,
Speaker 1: you gotta damn that kill yourself to be accepted by dudes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, pretty much. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at Pop. You know it's a handsome dude, but
Speaker 1: look what he had to do something, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: if if I made one more chance that with a
Speaker 1: call to the love song, but from Biggie with something else,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know, you gotta you gotta have It
Speaker 1: takes courage to do what you love and you do
Speaker 1: what you believe in, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: that was my thing. It wasn't a matter of you know,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to have girls, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You know most of my did too. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I figured out make some songs to try to get something.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't, you know, I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: that was like, you know, because you know the thing
Speaker 1: with hip hop is that you know, if you're not
Speaker 1: if you're not hit, if you're not spending gun balls
Speaker 1: and talking about packs, that gold title is gonna be
Speaker 1: elusive for you because you know, most of the time
Speaker 1: the voting members, that's what they really you know, the
Speaker 1: fellas really that's what they really wanted. And I too,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, I just
Speaker 1: decided that I was gonna do what I wanted to do.
Speaker 1: I had the balls to just do what I wanted
Speaker 1: to do, So you know I did hard records and
Speaker 1: love records and hard records and weird records and creative
Speaker 1: artsy ship do you think? Do you think? Because I
Speaker 1: think that Al perfected the hard record and then the
Speaker 1: crossover record after that, and then Biggie kind of took
Speaker 1: that style. And the reason why I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: have you ever thought like that? Because of the flavor
Speaker 1: in your air, it was like they kind of try
Speaker 1: to keep you closer. This is me as a fan.
Speaker 1: I have no flavoring. I mean flaving first of all.
Speaker 1: Flavoring year is so crazy because so many people thought
Speaker 1: my trainees or some ship, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you knows run around here like that shout out
Speaker 1: to my man top fight. That was something that we
Speaker 1: used to say all the time, you know, saying just
Speaker 1: when it was on in popping. I had no idea
Speaker 1: that when they was gonna spell out the syllables were
Speaker 1: gonna be And you know, oh, with all love and respect,
Speaker 1: you know, Traningville, you know what the man that's gonna
Speaker 1: be there, you know, with all love and respect to everybody,
Speaker 1: you know what you want beef and you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But um uh yeah, you know, look man,
Speaker 1: whether it's big or Noazle, you know the other guys,
Speaker 1: Like I respect all of artists for what they do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and respect anybody who's original
Speaker 1: and and and does it from the heart, does it
Speaker 1: from the soul. Like you know, I was listening to
Speaker 1: that Kendrick record and when he had said, uh, um,
Speaker 1: you know he does it from the soul. You do it?
Speaker 1: You know, for you it comes from the meds. I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, I just love I
Speaker 1: love hip hop. You know, I love the culture. You know,
Speaker 1: I love everything about it. But the thing was, you know,
Speaker 1: also at the same time, you know, I was never
Speaker 1: gonna be a slave to the music business. So meaning
Speaker 1: that the first time that I went and sat down
Speaker 1: and said, yo, I'd like to get X amount as
Speaker 1: an advance to this album, and somebody like they shoulder
Speaker 1: shook a little bit when you radio. When I wrote
Speaker 1: the Radio, I took a hero girl get a Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we forget it, so, you know, but I
Speaker 1: just you know, look, man, I just like to do everything.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't feel like you should limit yourself.
Speaker 1: You know, if you have to tell me that, if
Speaker 1: you have the talent to do many things, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: be afraid to do that because dreams will have deadlines,
Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of times, you know, in
Speaker 1: our culture, especially in the black community and as young males,
Speaker 1: you know, we get boxed in to what marginalized. Well no,
Speaker 1: not just marginalized by mainstream society, but boxed in in
Speaker 1: the sense that you know, you feel like there's certain
Speaker 1: things that you might have dreams, but you don't think
Speaker 1: it's cool, you know what I'm saying. You might want,
Speaker 1: You might be in origami, you might be into something
Speaker 1: like like knitting like blankets and putting them over gates
Speaker 1: like that. Because you're not a or you're not a
Speaker 1: basketba player, You're not cool and wet. Wead to ourselves
Speaker 1: with our music too, because we don't give us We
Speaker 1: don't give ourselves freedom, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: we don't give ourselves the freedom to do what we
Speaker 1: want to do. We always feel like, you know, every
Speaker 1: every time I make a song, I gotta worry about
Speaker 1: what what this particular set of friends thinks. Forget my imagination,
Speaker 1: but I might be imagining some other ship. It's not
Speaker 1: that I don't want to make records that my friends like,
Speaker 1: but what if I think of something else? Why can't
Speaker 1: I do that? Right? Why can't I do that? And
Speaker 1: so that's the thing that I kind of I always
Speaker 1: acted on that impulse, you know, I never you know,
Speaker 1: I never was like I just wouldn't listen to that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I just do what
Speaker 1: I want to do, because who do you love? Yo?
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get to this. I've never you know,
Speaker 1: I've been seeing you for twenty years and I've never
Speaker 1: asked you this question. What is pink cookies in the
Speaker 1: plastic bathroom crush my ain't gonna lie. I've been going
Speaker 1: with whatever, anything to say, I'll tell you. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. No, no, it makes sense. No. No. I
Speaker 1: was on the phone with a girl right and um,
Speaker 1: you know, I was at Molly Studio and she was
Speaker 1: talking Molly Mom, Molly, Yeah, and I am all right, Uh,
Speaker 1: I smell some weed, but I didn't in hell, you know.
Speaker 1: And and uh, you know, after I smelled the weed, um,
Speaker 1: you know, after smelling the weed, I laid on the
Speaker 1: couch and I was talking to this girl and she said,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, yeah, She was like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Said baby, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about heating cookies in the plastic bag and crushed
Speaker 1: my buildings right now, she said, she said. And what
Speaker 1: she said? What? I was like, that's the song background?
Speaker 1: I said, your mother, I said, your mother, let's get it.
Speaker 1: So I went downstairs, you know, and made the record,
Speaker 1: you know, let me. So it was so complicated that
Speaker 1: I knew the explanation. Yeah yeah, it wasn't no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah yeah, I'm not even I ain't come
Speaker 1: here to line run for office. You know, That's what
Speaker 1: it was, you know. And I had minute to satellite
Speaker 1: floating in closet, spinding pockets. I had a few of them.
Speaker 1: I got more of them jumping out of football jumping
Speaker 1: out of a helicopter into a football stadi and filled
Speaker 1: with cotton, candy and ship. I'm gonna tell you some
Speaker 1: crazy ship. I'm gonna tell you one thing. Al I
Speaker 1: know you don't know you taught me that. I know
Speaker 1: you don't know what you told me this. But I
Speaker 1: was on the Top forty tour, right, and I only
Speaker 1: have seven dates on the top forty tour. You had
Speaker 1: like seventy, right, and I didn't ride on the private jet.
Speaker 1: I was commercial everybody else. You had your puff daddy
Speaker 1: jar rule, this is this is this, this is that type.
Speaker 1: But I got seven days. So every date that I
Speaker 1: had had with you, like you had your room and
Speaker 1: then you had your room for your people, and I
Speaker 1: never disrupted you. I never came in there. But this
Speaker 1: was one day I was like you kind of speak
Speaker 1: to owl and I was like, who is it, and
Speaker 1: they said Norway said let that nigger, and I felt
Speaker 1: like he was shadow boxing. I don't know. So you
Speaker 1: came in and I said, your el because you had
Speaker 1: gave out roses this night. You had gave out roses, right,
Speaker 1: so I said owl like. I'm I'm eighteen nineteen at
Speaker 1: the time, I'm so young. So I'm like, oh, every
Speaker 1: girl in the crowd is for you. Wow, are you
Speaker 1: not out there? And you know what she told me.
Speaker 1: You said I rolled my wife And I said why,
Speaker 1: he said, because I never get in trouble yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And let me tell you something to this day,
Speaker 1: I rolled my wife. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you you
Speaker 1: really don't you know, why get the money back? You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm back like easy like And then you know,
Speaker 1: the crazy thing is younger brothers come up to me
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, Nori, why are you rolling with
Speaker 1: your wife? And not just be like I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: that now. We just say I don't want to get back.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know, I you know, I had
Speaker 1: moments Nori in my life, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 1: you know, you know, uh you know, yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, we can't. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: he got easy tiger. You know, it's rough out there,
Speaker 1: something water out there. Then I didn't know though when
Speaker 1: you told me that, Yeah, I was like, el was
Speaker 1: bugging or then I had to actually live. And then
Speaker 1: when I lived, I said, so you thought he was
Speaker 1: bugging out when he told me that. Oh no, I
Speaker 1: was to my mind that party said he's retired, like
Speaker 1: and then years later I was like, you, that reminds
Speaker 1: me of a story I was. You know, I won't
Speaker 1: say his name because I don't want to. It's rap dude.
Speaker 1: You know. Back in day he came with me like, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: you know, let me hold something, you know, to paper, Well,
Speaker 1: let me hold something, you know. I tried. I tried
Speaker 1: to tell him about them. He's like, yo, let me
Speaker 1: hold something. And I tried to tell him, you know,
Speaker 1: talk to him about stocks and bonds and ship like that.
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, may tell me some stock. Let
Speaker 1: me hold something. Stocks and bos. So that reminds me
Speaker 1: of that, like at a point at some you're not you.
Speaker 1: You only can understand it when you're ready for it.
Speaker 1: You did not ready for it, and a lot of times,
Speaker 1: you know, and That's true with music too, because you
Speaker 1: can do music and put it out there and people
Speaker 1: just don't understand it and it flies over their head
Speaker 1: and they catch it later. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that happens to whoever seen I'll perform before raise
Speaker 1: your hands. God damnit, it should be more people raising
Speaker 1: your hands, let me say so. At one point in
Speaker 1: this show, he takes off his shirt just get every
Speaker 1: woman a flower and they're super wet. You could just
Speaker 1: tell because the heads just like are you Like that's
Speaker 1: the goal? And you know, I'm so, I'm a kid.
Speaker 1: I'm eighteen nineteen years Chris like, he's like, yo, you
Speaker 1: gotta go, you gotta follow. I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing it. They're all on private planes. It's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm getting there, is okay. I'm still happy and I'm
Speaker 1: like al and al. It's like he knocked none of
Speaker 1: them down. Yeah. I couldn't believe it, Like yeah, person,
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, yeah yeah, and you so content
Speaker 1: and now you can't handle I live, Like, do you
Speaker 1: approve my lifestyle? The seven You ain't judging the lands
Speaker 1: toe that's ever gonna judge you as me? No, I
Speaker 1: still need you to prove my life to say I
Speaker 1: approve this message. I lived ten years behind you because
Speaker 1: you know my I got holloween in my closet, saw
Speaker 1: all type of bones and tosstoons, type of away from
Speaker 1: that risk boons fine spine hanging over the closet door
Speaker 1: school albo Man. I gotta ask you this, this, This
Speaker 1: is not for the for the podcast, This is not
Speaker 1: for anything. This is because I sincerely respect cool I
Speaker 1: love Cooj. I looked up to al COJ. But you
Speaker 1: did kind of crushed cannabis career early and I never
Speaker 1: knew why, like me personally, like why no, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I know the industry answer why. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the real disrespect you in the session? What happened because
Speaker 1: you're a queen's nigger and I respect what respect it?
Speaker 1: What happened? You know? Um? I mean the real honest
Speaker 1: answer is that, you know, one day, you know, we
Speaker 1: was I was on my way to student and it
Speaker 1: came up to me and you know, and you know
Speaker 1: my you know, uh, because it was a little taller
Speaker 1: than me. It was a little taller than me a
Speaker 1: little bit, so you know, he walked up and he
Speaker 1: was like yo, you know yo, your tattooed man like
Speaker 1: your tattoo, and we get one like that. I said, Now,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you gotta get your own, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't understand that, like nictally, like I
Speaker 1: didn't understand that your own joint, Like I didn't really know.
Speaker 1: I just didn't understand it. Like it was no disrespect.
Speaker 1: I was like, you got your own, don't get one
Speaker 1: like that. And then it's something we had that conversation
Speaker 1: when I got when I went in and heard his boss,
Speaker 1: he said, is that a mic on your all? Let
Speaker 1: me baw that? And I just like was like, I
Speaker 1: just did not understand. I just yeah, I couldn't understand it.
Speaker 1: I just like, okay, and that was it. Take me
Speaker 1: from that moment he already had. Isn't you that you
Speaker 1: already had your version? Then you changed? Is that? No,
Speaker 1: that's not the truth is I went in, I heard
Speaker 1: what he said, and I responded to the ship, that's
Speaker 1: the on your record. I didn't take him off. I
Speaker 1: was too ignorant for that. A smart guy, you know,
Speaker 1: jay Z, would have took him off the record. Let
Speaker 1: it smart. I was an idiot. But you have ignorant.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you I'm at that time, I was
Speaker 1: king around and said, now this is some reason and
Speaker 1: he said, norry, do you know what's going on? But
Speaker 1: I'm acting like I'm done. I'm like, no, l L
Speaker 1: is battling cannabis. And told him, just looking at him,
Speaker 1: my mind, I know what's going on, and I'm like
Speaker 1: where he's like, y'all. But then yeah, but see, the
Speaker 1: thing is what people don't know is that I you know,
Speaker 1: after that I saw him cannabis and after crust his career, well, no, no,
Speaker 1: I saw him and I said, yo, And he was
Speaker 1: debating about putting a song about me out. I said, yo, don't.
Speaker 1: I went to him, I said, Yo, you know what, Okay,
Speaker 1: it happened on the record. I And first of all,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna know if you don't make a record. I said,
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I never knew. And now that's
Speaker 1: a very important party. I told him this. So you're
Speaker 1: saying before before before reaction record came out, I met
Speaker 1: with him. I didn't know that. I said, yo, I said,
Speaker 1: don't put no record. Nobody's gonna know. Just leave it.
Speaker 1: And you know, I got a little high hand. It's
Speaker 1: between us to leave. He said, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I don't put it out out of the politics, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I'm like, you know, and then the
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Speaker 1: and ship. You know, now now I love, it's all good.
Speaker 1: But then he put the record out. And then you know,
Speaker 1: then because I told him, I said, Yo, let's just
Speaker 1: do a record together. You know what I mean, Yes,
Speaker 1: I said that. I said we should have did a
Speaker 1: red let's just do a record together. We could, you know,
Speaker 1: because I didn't really want the drama, but you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is, you know. And then I,
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Speaker 1: the record, I said, I'm only eight team, making more
Speaker 1: of your pops. And he felt offended by that, making
Speaker 1: more than your pops. And he was offended because he
Speaker 1: thought it was the wrong message because I was making more. Well. No, no,
Speaker 1: he thought I was sending a bad message to two
Speaker 1: young kids out there like I was, because you know,
Speaker 1: looked when I coming up, when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: you know, sixteen seventeen eight, like seventeen eighteen nineteen, I
Speaker 1: was always with Rich Porter. I was always with Alpo
Speaker 1: and a Z and my man Big Chuck for Mount
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Speaker 1: hey man, you begging for champagne, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But when I started hanging out with Chuck, yeah, the champagns.
Speaker 1: It's not I don't take it person gonna make you know.
Speaker 1: So when I you know, when I used to hang
Speaker 1: with with you know, without Pole, and when Chuck would
Speaker 1: take me around and hang without Po and Azy and
Speaker 1: Rich and all of them, and Black just used to
Speaker 1: come a little later. M he rest in peace. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I just came up, you know, in a
Speaker 1: different you know, thought process, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I just tried to do things right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, that's all. Basically, did you know Benny
Speaker 1: was the biggest drug dealer in Queens when he was
Speaker 1: hanging with him at one point? I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I know Ben was my man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I hung with them, you know, you know the whole time,
Speaker 1: you know, I was, and some of his initial escapades.
Speaker 1: But you know what the thing is about that, what
Speaker 1: people have to understand about that is that, first of all,
Speaker 1: we don't want to glorify that because it's not cute.
Speaker 1: We do not um and it's a tough life and
Speaker 1: it destroys lives. And most of the guys that are
Speaker 1: really doing it for real, which a worman okay, and
Speaker 1: the ones that are really successful at it, I really
Speaker 1: wish they were successful at something else, anything else. It's
Speaker 1: a horrible way to live, okay, And we confront ack
Speaker 1: like it isn't, but it is. It's a very tough
Speaker 1: way to live, alright, because I've seen it firsthand for real,
Speaker 1: and but you know it. It taught me a lot though,
Speaker 1: and learned a lot. You know, I forgot the point
Speaker 1: I was trying to make because I was no because
Speaker 1: you know why, you know, I'm telling you the point
Speaker 1: just trying to make because at one point, oh so,
Speaker 1: basically he thought that I was glorifying that lifestyle. When
Speaker 1: I said so, he wanted to, you know, be conscious
Speaker 1: about that. But what he didn't understand is that you
Speaker 1: know that I'm an eighteen year old young man and
Speaker 1: I don't know anything else but this, you know, growing
Speaker 1: up in the hood, I'm just throw yeah. But when
Speaker 1: you're growing up in the hood and I see a
Speaker 1: car drive by, that's all I know. It ain't and
Speaker 1: I see a guy how he gets it, That's all
Speaker 1: I know. It's not about I'm not even thinking about
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Speaker 1: come into your brain. The only thing you think is
Speaker 1: I'm here, and the money's there, and where do I
Speaker 1: gotta go to get it? That's all you really think about.
Speaker 1: Now when you're older, you get in your thirties, your
Speaker 1: late twenties, and you know, maybe before you can start
Speaker 1: reflecting and kind of cleaning up your life. So I
Speaker 1: think he had the right attention, but that the problem
Speaker 1: was that he wasn't merciful and understanding that I was
Speaker 1: a young kid. And this is always thinking now on
Speaker 1: the MC level. You know, you know, I've never shot
Speaker 1: away from trying to snap somebody's head off. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel like the battle now, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: feeling right now. I felt like he was gonna beat
Speaker 1: up Charlemagne recently. What happened? You know? My think, No, No,
Speaker 1: my thing. My thing with Homie is, you know, you
Speaker 1: know he he likes to get on the radio and
Speaker 1: bully people. You know what I'm saying. I don't like bullies,
Speaker 1: me neither. You know what I'm saying, I really don't
Speaker 1: like bullies. And you know, I understand he's a small guy.
Speaker 1: I get that. But the bully thing didn't work for me,
Speaker 1: and I felt like he was picking on me and
Speaker 1: undermining my my, my, my brand and my my my,
Speaker 1: my five you know what I'm saying. But I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna go up there and do the baby thing. I
Speaker 1: just told him. Look, I just told him, listening when
Speaker 1: you got me, let me do that. I love baby,
Speaker 1: that's my man. But I wasn't doing that. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go to your show, your show, why you make money.
Speaker 1: We're not doing that. And by the way, that's the
Speaker 1: most view. I'm sure, I'm sure, but my thing was, Look,
Speaker 1: you know, I said, look, let's just box a charity.
Speaker 1: You know, I give uneople up now, but I was
Speaker 1: agen for charity, not when you're boxing for I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I don't be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Nobody want to box that I didn't want to. You
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't look, I don't want I'm not.
Speaker 1: I have no problems with him. I wish from the best.
Speaker 1: Just leave me alone and don't pick on me. Just
Speaker 1: don't pick on I don't like to get you. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody watching this pocket no, I can't. I don't plan
Speaker 1: everybody in hip hop, you know, I don't get carried away.
Speaker 1: But there's some crazy one. But everybody watching this podcast
Speaker 1: don't bully, don't be bullies, and don't pick on people.
Speaker 1: Because that was my only problem with And you felt
Speaker 1: like he was picking on yeah, because he's always got
Speaker 1: something to say, like he doesn't understand, Like I give
Speaker 1: you an example, like, you know, everybody was mad at me,
Speaker 1: and I understand their point of view, but everybody was
Speaker 1: mad at me about you know, the whole accidental racist record.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that was a big conversation.
Speaker 1: And they thought, you know or else, you know, aiding
Speaker 1: in the betting of us forgetting slavers verse your verse
Speaker 1: saying the change. Yeah, they didn't. So what they didn't
Speaker 1: understand is that, you know, now fast forward and look
Speaker 1: at the shape the countries in, and you think about
Speaker 1: what me and him was attempting to do. It was
Speaker 1: the logical, but looking where to shape the country's in?
Speaker 1: Now you did. People at that point thought that I
Speaker 1: was out of my mind for talking comparing a do
Speaker 1: rag to a Confederate flag. But now you're seeing little
Speaker 1: brothers get shot down every day because of the outfits.
Speaker 1: Whether it's a hoodie. It may not be a do rag,
Speaker 1: but maybe it's a hoodie with tray Von, maybe some
Speaker 1: sagging jeans. Maybe it's a brother outside of SUV getting
Speaker 1: shot down. That's the thing I was talking about. I
Speaker 1: was trying to humanize us. I would never suggest that
Speaker 1: we forget our history. That's absurd, it's ludicrous. But you
Speaker 1: gotta be willing to Like, I'll give you another example.
Speaker 1: Like people is mad at me what I said? Oh
Speaker 1: r I p Robert E. Lee. I hate he I
Speaker 1: can say that Robert R. I p Robert E. Lee.
Speaker 1: They hated me. He was a general in the Confederate Army. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand how people feel. But when that when that
Speaker 1: racist dude ran up in that church and he shot
Speaker 1: up all of those people and that black church down south,
Speaker 1: and then those black people got together and said, you
Speaker 1: know what, you know, we're praying for him, and we
Speaker 1: forgive him and we want to send love to him.
Speaker 1: The country helped them in high esteem because they were
Speaker 1: able to get beyond their emotions and see the bigger picture.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was trying to show people, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But it took four years and
Speaker 1: all of these people dying by the hands of of
Speaker 1: corrupt police, because not all police are corrupt, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, but dying by the hands of some
Speaker 1: of these corrupt policemen and dying at the hands of
Speaker 1: in the wrong way. For people don't understand that what
Speaker 1: I was saying and what me and Brad would attempting
Speaker 1: to do was very real, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that's why the whole they laugh at you, then
Speaker 1: they ignore you, then they fight you, then you win
Speaker 1: things true because they laughed at us. Then you know
Speaker 1: that's and now everybody was laughing at us. You know,
Speaker 1: but then when you and then they ignored us. But
Speaker 1: now look at what's going on now, they're trying to
Speaker 1: fight that same they're trying to promote those same vibes,
Speaker 1: those same values that we talked about. So you know,
Speaker 1: that's about the courage. That's about art. You know, that's
Speaker 1: what art does. It provokes people. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just want to say to you if you don't
Speaker 1: know how much you appreciate it in the hip hop, no,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate hip hop. No, But listen, let me
Speaker 1: just tell you something. If it wasn't for L cool J,
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be a NAS. It wasn't for Nas, there
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a mob Deep. It's for a mob deep,
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be a component Oriega. So me personally, I
Speaker 1: want to look at you, face to face, out of
Speaker 1: man and man and tell you how much that not
Speaker 1: only queens because when our queen's is limited, even though
Speaker 1: queens we won the world. For that from queens, even
Speaker 1: though even queens we won the world. But it's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: I did hear that. I did hear ki me. I
Speaker 1: had a condo around the corner from his from his
Speaker 1: rich for twenty years. Got damn it, A ponder around
Speaker 1: the truck, Got damn it. I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: was just close to buying the condo next in his
Speaker 1: building because it's it's cost effective, of course effective. But
Speaker 1: you came one day I'm shooting a black money video. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the most disrespectful record on my album. And I call
Speaker 1: for al COO J to come through and l CUJ
Speaker 1: comes through. My motherfucking so. I always love your music. No, no,
Speaker 1: I always loved your music. I always felt your music.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, what all of that you know?
Speaker 1: I mean you introduced the world to the Neptuns and
Speaker 1: all that. I mean you put that you know you
Speaker 1: po But I met for real because of you. I
Speaker 1: can't shouldn't meant for real. And that's when I did
Speaker 1: love you better than I ended up ultimately doing, love
Speaker 1: you better than Americas. But you know you, You've done
Speaker 1: a lot. You know you're an important person what we're doing.
Speaker 1: That's why the podcast is so successful. I've been watching it,
Speaker 1: but watching episodes and with CBS and me and e
Speaker 1: fam we got some deals that bring you. I got
Speaker 1: to cover, I gotta got cover. That got a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah, yeah, I got something. And the lip
Speaker 1: Sync Battle. Yeah, was that your idea or what that
Speaker 1: was somebody else? Well, the idea came from John Krasinski
Speaker 1: and Steve Merchant and they brought it, you know through
Speaker 1: I don't know who they are, but they sound ready
Speaker 1: now it came to us and uh, basically you know,
Speaker 1: but I owned the format along with my partners, and
Speaker 1: we've sold a format and over a hundred fifty countries
Speaker 1: around the world, and we have like a partnership with
Speaker 1: like Carnival Cruises, and uh, you know, the app is
Speaker 1: starting to grow now and really doing well, the lip
Speaker 1: Sync Battle app, and uh, I mean the show and
Speaker 1: we've also, um, we have different versions of the show
Speaker 1: around the world. So like in Tiland, it's like a
Speaker 1: you know, would be a tie host doing the lip Battle,
Speaker 1: and we just did like in Ukraine, and we did
Speaker 1: a deal in Russia, and we did a deal you
Speaker 1: know in China. We just did a big deal in
Speaker 1: China for for lip Sync Battle. So that thing is
Speaker 1: global and then you know what people don't know it's
Speaker 1: with like n C I s l A also have
Speaker 1: a vested interest in the show. I'm not just an
Speaker 1: actor on the show. I haven't. That's the guy and
Speaker 1: and that's in two hundred countries around the world as well.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's really going on. It's going on. Listen. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. When I looked at hip hop, right, I
Speaker 1: was tired of hip hop. I was just tired. Like
Speaker 1: I mean, I loved it, I still want to make it.
Speaker 1: I couldn't God bless her dad. After Chris Lidy died,
Speaker 1: I couldn't actually attack it the way I wanted to
Speaker 1: attack it. So I said, let me just think of
Speaker 1: something else. And all I did was look at you.
Speaker 1: I looked at you and said, what the fund is
Speaker 1: l doing? L Because are you in shape? I'm not.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in shape. Yeah, you said you're good. Now
Speaker 1: you're a little I'm a little. Okay, you look like
Speaker 1: you know you're doing handstead something. Watch your Instagram Buttram
Speaker 1: kill me. But I and I said, what can I
Speaker 1: do to do something else other than the hip hop?
Speaker 1: Because music just gets boring even if you're making money.
Speaker 1: Music is just just boring now. But you know what,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I don't. I don't feel
Speaker 1: that way. I think my thing is I just never
Speaker 1: limit myself. And like I said, if you have more
Speaker 1: than one talent, you should utilize them all. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, if you're a Dion Sanders and
Speaker 1: you can play baseball and football, play both. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: music is not off the table for me. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that I'll never make another record.
Speaker 1: It's just right now, you're gonna make another record right well,
Speaker 1: right now, my priority is entertaining. We're trying to great
Speaker 1: business movie, great movie. I'm sorry, certain its beautiful. So
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this entertaining. But you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta try different things. You gotta you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta move, you gotta you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: make things happen and not be like afraid to like
Speaker 1: fall back for a second. Like I'm not afraid, Like
Speaker 1: I don't feel like you know, if I if I
Speaker 1: make a song, it'll be like I never left because
Speaker 1: after the record go off because into deep Yeah this movie,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that was yeah, that was just stuck a
Speaker 1: poll stick up a nigger. Yeah, eight ball back pocket.
Speaker 1: I didn't know aly eight ball too. I just didn't sick.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I didn't know. You want to you went,
Speaker 1: you went in. You do. Don't worry. I don't worry
Speaker 1: the videos, you know, the movies and so out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all when it comes to the movies, I don't
Speaker 1: limit myself with the characters, whatever role it is. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not above any roller, below any rollers. If if
Speaker 1: I respond to the role and I feel like it's
Speaker 1: something good, I'll do it. Right now, I'm playing Sam
Speaker 1: Hanno and nciss Angeles is a lot of fun. We're
Speaker 1: going into next season. Didn't you put out your gun?
Speaker 1: Very professional that But let me turn I can tell
Speaker 1: you learn now he's talking about get hitting them at all,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I went down to like Camp Penalton
Speaker 1: and train with like the Marines and the Special Apps guys,
Speaker 1: the Sailors down. Um, you know, hung out with a
Speaker 1: master gunner restager from the Marines who told me a
Speaker 1: lot of I went to swat school. You know it
Speaker 1: did a lot of let's go back to yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he got no he stuck. He's sticking again. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: yeah that sucked me up. And we're like, yeah, knew you.
Speaker 1: I was good. What would down like? God, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. He was like, yeah, that's a brutal scene.
Speaker 1: And if you haven't seen it too deep go check
Speaker 1: it out. It's a brutal scene. Is a brutal scene. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But going back to music real quick, you're one of
Speaker 1: the first New York artists to kind of be bi
Speaker 1: coastal when you worked with poo L A Posse and
Speaker 1: on them. How did that come about? Um? Basically what
Speaker 1: happened was, you know at that time, you know, after
Speaker 1: my first album, Rick Rubin left Jeff Champ and uh,
Speaker 1: we we're trying to figure out what my next move
Speaker 1: was gonna do be because he produced my first album,
Speaker 1: the whole first album. Yeah, yeah, we did the whole
Speaker 1: first album together. Um it was his first album to
Speaker 1: first full album, and um, so after that and he
Speaker 1: can't just say that nothing make no. Yeah, so after that,
Speaker 1: Volt cameras, you gotta start flapping to clapping too, I understand,
Speaker 1: but volt cameras, you gotta clap to it. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: youtubeat guy all right, terrible terrible side. So now so
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, I went and Russell had
Speaker 1: heard you know, the L A Posse because they had
Speaker 1: made some records that he felt was in the zone
Speaker 1: to introduced me to him. I met Bob kat Um,
Speaker 1: big up to Bob, you know from L A l
Speaker 1: As you know l ast Red Wasn't wasn't the radio
Speaker 1: who myn My first album was Radio. My first song
Speaker 1: was I Need to Beat. My first song came out
Speaker 1: four it was I need to Beat. Then I had
Speaker 1: I was born in seventy seven. YEA, well, thank you
Speaker 1: giving my child. Then the second one came out like
Speaker 1: eighty five. The album came out like eighty five, and
Speaker 1: then it went from there. But the second album came
Speaker 1: out around eighty seven. But the first albums on that jam.
Speaker 1: It was on Yes This is c Rock. It's Yours
Speaker 1: was on Death Jam Productions. It was an imprint on
Speaker 1: Street on Party Times Party Time Records, and was Death
Speaker 1: Jam Productions. And and Rick was having problems. Him and
Speaker 1: Russell weapon problems getting the money from Party Time for
Speaker 1: the Yours record, so they decided to start their own label.
Speaker 1: And and I was the flagship artists, and we made
Speaker 1: the first alum and I actually you know, first I
Speaker 1: know I owned a piece of death Jam as well,
Speaker 1: and I sold it. Yeah yeah, I sold it back
Speaker 1: to them. Yeah we didn't know that. Yeah. But the
Speaker 1: first record was radio radio on Rock the Bell's Radio.
Speaker 1: All of that was on first record. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: wentn't got to deal with when when you got to
Speaker 1: deal with no, no, no, CBS, CBS Yeah, Columbius, we
Speaker 1: got CBS right here in the CBS. Yeah. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know queens Nick is getting money with CBS. Yeah, it certainly.
Speaker 1: Can you put me there's This is what I want.
Speaker 1: I want you to describe back in the days, because
Speaker 1: it was so rough walking down Jamaica as I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, people think it's rough walking up to
Speaker 1: make an app and two thousand and seventeen, they have
Speaker 1: no idea what it was in the eighties and the mzingies.
Speaker 1: Can you describe? It was like every any piece of
Speaker 1: clothing that you had on that was moldy, moldy or
Speaker 1: remotely valuable was like asking people to rob you. Like
Speaker 1: like if you have to be at gazelles or you
Speaker 1: won't buy somebody your gazelles would say to them, excuse me.
Speaker 1: It was like the gazelles. We're talking. If you have
Speaker 1: seemed skinning, be like, hey, I don't seen this thing.
Speaker 1: Come up and get me rock please, he said, come
Speaker 1: on please. It was crazy. It was crazy and listen
Speaker 1: crazy described to people. Listen, let me describe to the
Speaker 1: rule because one day Nas has told me. He said,
Speaker 1: one day, me and Nas just kicking it, be talking
Speaker 1: and now I said, he came to Left Wrack and
Speaker 1: he was like, he came to Left Frack. He was like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe the amount of respect that nobody don't
Speaker 1: bother you here. And I was like, my hud, he said,
Speaker 1: do you imagine what al Who went through in those days?
Speaker 1: Mind you, we had no facts. But remember remember you know,
Speaker 1: you know I was hanging with you know, the guys
Speaker 1: I was hanging with. The guy isn't really having a
Speaker 1: lot of problems, like you knows, throw through color. I
Speaker 1: never heard your room, right, Yeah, you know, you know
Speaker 1: we told you was I was. I was with guys
Speaker 1: that were so official and thorough in the street that
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I mean, I wasn't having those issues,
Speaker 1: you know, and um, and I wasn't looking for me
Speaker 1: because you know what I've learned, I don't. I never,
Speaker 1: I never in my life have tried to be a
Speaker 1: tough guy. And I never hung around gangsters and tried
Speaker 1: to act like I was one, because that's how you
Speaker 1: get yourself in trouble. Just be who you are. Just
Speaker 1: be yourself, you know what I mean. And so I
Speaker 1: never had a lot of issues. I had a few fights,
Speaker 1: and you know, I grew up fighting, you know, I wasn't,
Speaker 1: you know, having shootouts. We could tell you you fight,
Speaker 1: you know a couple of people. You know. I had
Speaker 1: a dumb moments. I'll tell you a funny story when
Speaker 1: I was a little kid, just a little mischief. So
Speaker 1: when I was a little kid, you know, when it
Speaker 1: was snow outside, we decided it was a good idea,
Speaker 1: you know, take like nana to take rocks and send
Speaker 1: the blocks and cover them with snow and then throw
Speaker 1: them at cars like I don't ask me while the
Speaker 1: right was breaking, you know what. So one day, one day,
Speaker 1: I mean my grandmother's yard, not to throw a goddamn
Speaker 1: big gass rock with snow around it, because you know
Speaker 1: the car's not gonna stop. They say, Oh, look at
Speaker 1: the little kids with snowballs, and then like stright, why
Speaker 1: didn't you know we were? So we was in there
Speaker 1: week A man came around the corner and I was
Speaker 1: looking over there, and I've seen the window rolling town
Speaker 1: like that. All I see was little flashing lights. You
Speaker 1: always running. I hate behind a snow mount. Did you
Speaker 1: hear me? Snowmas snowman bullets were fun the joint about
Speaker 1: snow mound. And then I like ran fell down another basement. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was flashing lights. Was the gun going on? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Flashing lights? The lights? And I
Speaker 1: like rent and you know how the when he's the
Speaker 1: basement windows got that that, I don't know what you know,
Speaker 1: it's like a you know, it's like a thing down
Speaker 1: I think in the house for the so you can
Speaker 1: open the basement window. So I found out he had
Speaker 1: told my ankles up and all that. So I had
Speaker 1: a little mischief in my life a little bit, but
Speaker 1: for the most part, I stayed out of trouble, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'm sorry to bring this up,
Speaker 1: but I have to bring it up. We all was
Speaker 1: managed by violator management. We all was under the tutelagit
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a word, but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it is of Chris. Lady, I asked
Speaker 1: fifty cent this, I asked all violated artists when they
Speaker 1: come on here, like how did it? Because it affected me?
Speaker 1: But first of all, I love Chris deeply, and his
Speaker 1: daughter Tiffany is a good difference to my my my kids,
Speaker 1: and she's at the household the time, and uh, you
Speaker 1: know she hangs with my wife and hangs with the
Speaker 1: kids and all that. Um. First of all, Chris and
Speaker 1: my relationship was a little different from probably yours and
Speaker 1: fifties because Chris got in the business after me, so
Speaker 1: we had a different You was already and yeah, I
Speaker 1: was already, So you know, we had a different type
Speaker 1: of relationship, you know. And um, you know, we were
Speaker 1: friends and we were you know, I looked at you know,
Speaker 1: we looked at each other's counterparts. And he managed me.
Speaker 1: He did he made a lot of things for me.
Speaker 1: But our relationship, you know, was, um, what you think,
Speaker 1: what you think, Let's get X, let's get wild. Like
Speaker 1: I remember when he was interning the Death Cham and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But the thing I remember most about
Speaker 1: Chris is that he was a really, really, really really
Speaker 1: small guy, and he was a good dude, and he
Speaker 1: wasn't soft like I remember Chris used to let me
Speaker 1: in the tunnel when he was a bodyguard. At the tunnel.
Speaker 1: Chris used to do security security and he would be outside.
Speaker 1: I heard he was running the tunnel security. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he was christ Christmas. Chris was. You know,
Speaker 1: he may have been involved in the business aspects too.
Speaker 1: But when I seen Chris, he had a bulletproof vessel
Speaker 1: on outside the door. And I never liked Mr Smack.
Speaker 1: Come on in, Yo, he said, you know, he's like
Speaker 1: a good fellow. You know, he was a gamester. You know, Christmas,
Speaker 1: he was a real guy. I'm glad I met him.
Speaker 1: Later he was, Yo, I'm telling you, but I mean
Speaker 1: all of you, all of the people you know, like
Speaker 1: I'll tell you just to switch games for a minute.
Speaker 1: Like Leo. The first time I met Leo. Leo was
Speaker 1: a promoter in l A And when I met him,
Speaker 1: he came to pick me up from the airport because
Speaker 1: I had a show where he was a promoter. Promoter
Speaker 1: when a loss like Los Angeles and the driver's door
Speaker 1: didn't open, I mean the passenger door and open you
Speaker 1: had to get in the car through the driver side,
Speaker 1: both of us, and we drove and he was telling
Speaker 1: me how we're gonna change hip hop. And let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. He was prophetic though, because everything he
Speaker 1: talked about came true. But he was very much you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, this was a guy that was walking around
Speaker 1: with you know, no lasers and the sneakers, you know,
Speaker 1: behind chasing behind jam as the jam joining his mouth,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like he was a real
Speaker 1: like Like he wasn't this the corporate titan that he
Speaker 1: ultimately became. But I always had respect for him because
Speaker 1: Leo is the one who made the deal. C I
Speaker 1: owned my whole catalog. You still from the beginning I
Speaker 1: own my catalg I didn't, but I owned it ultimately
Speaker 1: with my deal. You know, when I got to a
Speaker 1: certain position with def Jam, I did a deal where
Speaker 1: I owned my catalog. Right. Leo is the one that
Speaker 1: did that deal. So I have to always respect Leo
Speaker 1: for that because you know, he didn't have to do it.
Speaker 1: They were trying to figure out how to make a
Speaker 1: deal that was rich enough for me to want to stay,
Speaker 1: and you know, at the same time, they wanted to
Speaker 1: come up to a certain number, but not to go
Speaker 1: beyond that. So you know, I said, well, you know,
Speaker 1: give a catalog, and I said, okay, we worked that
Speaker 1: out and we got the catalog. So def jam has
Speaker 1: a really small interest in my catalog. I own it.
Speaker 1: And so when you hear ll Cool Jason Mamas all
Speaker 1: that life, when you ll Ma Callie Mama, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Mama said yeah. So when you hear my my records
Speaker 1: and movies and on TV and stuff, I've licensed that.
Speaker 1: You know, anytime you hear ll cool j Song, LLL
Speaker 1: has licensed it. That's another goal I'm gonna take out
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, you know, but let me tell you so,
Speaker 1: let me be, let me be transparent. The reason the
Speaker 1: reason I'm sharing this is because I don't think the
Speaker 1: hip hop community understands a lot of the things that
Speaker 1: you know, I've been doing in my career. I think
Speaker 1: that it's been kind of a mystery. And I never
Speaker 1: was a guy that like as my publicist to get
Speaker 1: me in Forbes. I've never been the guy who really
Speaker 1: um went out of his way to try to market
Speaker 1: myself as smart. And I just never did that because
Speaker 1: I came from over a pure place and just wanting
Speaker 1: to rock the mic, you know, and it was never
Speaker 1: like I give you another thing, like there was this
Speaker 1: whole room of back in the days that ll cool J.
Speaker 1: You know, he's upset because he didn't become the president
Speaker 1: of Death Champ, which is can I can I just
Speaker 1: say something like I can't even describe to you how
Speaker 1: ultimately and utterly ridiculous that is. And let me sway
Speaker 1: to you what why would look? I'm I'm I wanted
Speaker 1: you to be there. Do Michael Jackson want to be
Speaker 1: the president of Motown? Like I ain't confirmed, I don't
Speaker 1: relate to Michael. I didn't I want I never wanted that.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make music. See people wanted to get
Speaker 1: a budget from you. But the thing is, the thing
Speaker 1: is I just always I just wanted to be an artist, Mari,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not ashamed of being a rapper, like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't need to. I don't need to convince you
Speaker 1: that I'm more than a rapper, Like I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: So when that's all I wanted, All I want to
Speaker 1: do is be a rapper and be the best rapper,
Speaker 1: Like that's what I grew up wanting to do. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, actually something right as a rapper, when you
Speaker 1: hear the stories like the Little Wayne right, where Little
Speaker 1: Wayne is getting maybe taking advantage of we don't really know,
Speaker 1: we already know what we see. There's nothing, you know what,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. There's there's nothing that Little
Speaker 1: Wayne did wrong, and I'll tell you. I'll tell you why,
Speaker 1: because like I told you, I owned my catalog and
Speaker 1: I told you that ultimately I got a great deal.
Speaker 1: But you know what, if Russell was the worst piece
Speaker 1: person in the world, he could have easily taken advantage
Speaker 1: of me. He could have easily gave me one of
Speaker 1: those boso deals that you hear nightmares about. But you
Speaker 1: know what, Russell wasn't that kind of guy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, you know, early on we
Speaker 1: did my publishing fifty fifty. Ultimately I got all my
Speaker 1: publishing back, of course, but early on it was like that.
Speaker 1: But even then with my first contract, he only went
Speaker 1: fifty fifty. He didn't take it all. So so a
Speaker 1: lot of that. A lot of times when you hear
Speaker 1: about guys with bad deals, that says more about the
Speaker 1: executives that they were dealing with than the actual artists.
Speaker 1: It's not about them being dumb, it's not about them
Speaker 1: being them because you know what, some guys, I'll give
Speaker 1: them credit, like some of the guys, you know, like
Speaker 1: I told you, I hung around a lot of street guys,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't That's not who I was, right, I
Speaker 1: wasn't a hustler personally. Those were just my friends. But
Speaker 1: so some guys who are actually hustlers and hustlers and
Speaker 1: actually had that life, they get to benefit from all
Speaker 1: the experiences that they had hustling, so when they come
Speaker 1: into the game, they're able to make better deals earlier.
Speaker 1: But some of us, because we weren't hustlism because we
Speaker 1: didn't experience, you know, getting cheated and screwed and scammed.
Speaker 1: We didn't. We were just innocent kids rapping. We may
Speaker 1: have been from a rough community, but were really just
Speaker 1: innocent kids who love the rhyme. And so when you
Speaker 1: go in and you sign your deal, it's not the
Speaker 1: greatest deal in the world because you're just excited to
Speaker 1: be there. Then you don't have that maturity and that
Speaker 1: grit and that you know, that grizzle that allows you
Speaker 1: to you know, make a better deal early so some
Speaker 1: of these guys did benefit. There were benefits for some
Speaker 1: of them. Some benefited, something didn't. But I don't blame
Speaker 1: any of these younger artists. You know. Now, what I
Speaker 1: would say is that now the internet, because the Internet
Speaker 1: wasn't what it was, Well, there's access to information. You
Speaker 1: have information out there, so you gotta want the information.
Speaker 1: You gotta want to make a great deal. Do you
Speaker 1: want to make a great deal? Are you patient? Do
Speaker 1: you have the balls to say no? Because are you
Speaker 1: comfortable saying no? That was a crazy thing is when
Speaker 1: when Death Jam we got their self together, I asked
Speaker 1: them like bringing back l and they never asked my question.
Speaker 1: Well they do, but but you know, to be to
Speaker 1: be fair, your death Jam is Leo Kevin Russell Simmons.
Speaker 1: I'm asking what it is is that you know? Look,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're young and you don't know how
Speaker 1: to play the political game, you rub, you can rub
Speaker 1: people the wrong way like you are the deaf Jam.
Speaker 1: But but you don't rub nobody the wrong No, no, no,
Speaker 1: But you can't like what I'm saying, sickly is that
Speaker 1: man like you know, nobody's perfect. Man, I don't you know,
Speaker 1: I don't begrudge those guys nothing, because you know the
Speaker 1: resistance that I you know, you know, pressure makes diamonds, man,
Speaker 1: you know it could bust Pipce, but it makes diamonds.
Speaker 1: So the resistance that that I felt and the little
Speaker 1: things that they did just encourage me to go out
Speaker 1: there and do something greater, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and just do something and being master. Oh now, if
Speaker 1: I drink another bottle of Roads, you know we might fly.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, yo, I have never been a
Speaker 1: man more than I was the man when I had
Speaker 1: you come to my hood. Now, I had you listen
Speaker 1: this day. I had camera come to my hood. I
Speaker 1: had Jim Jones come to my hood. I had run
Speaker 1: DMC come to my hood. I had everybody come to
Speaker 1: my hood. But the one thing that everybody said was like,
Speaker 1: we're not going inside. L was the only person said
Speaker 1: I'm going inside. And I'm looking at you like you
Speaker 1: said you said, I'm want you. I'm good now. I
Speaker 1: love my people, But I still feel like you don't
Speaker 1: feel like you don't really realize. No, no, let me
Speaker 1: give you a project. I have to do it. I
Speaker 1: still don't feel like you realized how much that you
Speaker 1: meant to people in Queens. Now, if it's my partner,
Speaker 1: he's from Miami, he's born in l A. He might
Speaker 1: have a whole totally different thing. But for us in Queens,
Speaker 1: there was no other nigga that we wanted to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, nas, I mean, I remember one time me
Speaker 1: and Fat Joe we had an hour and a half
Speaker 1: conversation or who means more to him? L L to
Speaker 1: him or to me? I feel like gonna be that's
Speaker 1: the first time's gonna fight. I said, Fat, Oh, you
Speaker 1: can't claim al you're from the Brons. I gotta stop love.
Speaker 1: In fact, Joe was like, what my default? You don't
Speaker 1: love him as much as I love him my default?
Speaker 1: And he just didn't like I'm talking about we seriously arguing.
Speaker 1: I found that this argument happening six times. That's crazy
Speaker 1: and it's a blessing man. But that's that's how real
Speaker 1: hip hop. This is what drink Champs is about. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know a drink Champs is about
Speaker 1: giving the stars flowers when they could smell them, and
Speaker 1: give them trees when they could inhale them. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because every other genre, every other music when these people
Speaker 1: become icons, the classics, they support them. Why doesn't hip
Speaker 1: hop have that platform? Well, you know, no, you don't
Speaker 1: have this. You're doing it. You don't get smart on
Speaker 1: me smart you're drinking drinking, y'all listen. L L koo
Speaker 1: J came a left rack City and I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed because I was like, I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know when you need to walk through, you walk through.
Speaker 1: I was like, I hope a crackhead and Pete and
Speaker 1: it was mad and I'm looking at him. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this Nick is gonna leave. Don't know, Well, he didn't
Speaker 1: smell the bead, he didn't see the bess that I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. But not only that, You're
Speaker 1: not only filmed the video, you actually came and chilled
Speaker 1: in Capone's van Fantastic and we started watching the remember,
Speaker 1: and you actually, like people got to really understand how
Speaker 1: cool because you know why we put you on a
Speaker 1: pedestal in Queens and we should you deserve that pedestal
Speaker 1: and you should stay in that pedestal. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, people should understand how cool you are, how
Speaker 1: down the earth you are, how how you your say anybody?
Speaker 1: You know what, man, even no matter what I'm doing
Speaker 1: in my life. You know, I always tell people you know,
Speaker 1: I'm in Hollywood, but I never went Hollywood. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And um, you know, keep talking. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm like whatever, you know, to take the cameras he's taking. Um,
Speaker 1: So you know that was the thing. You know, this
Speaker 1: is a funny moment, right, but you know that was
Speaker 1: the thing. You know, that was the thing for me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Whatever happened to creative man,
Speaker 1: Um'll take the opportunity here now, ja ja, Phil Potter
Speaker 1: is my man, you know what I'm saying. Um, we
Speaker 1: just I just felt like creatively I wanted to stretch
Speaker 1: a little bit and try some new things. But that
Speaker 1: he's always my friend. He's still my friend. We speak
Speaker 1: UM and he does like Tom join up, he does
Speaker 1: different cruise, he does different parties. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He's still working. Yeah, yeah, he's still working. You know.
Speaker 1: But I've been using z Trip you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Z Tripp has been you know, DJ. Z Trip has
Speaker 1: been DJ and for me for Damn featuring Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was crazy. Remind me the five heartbeats and some ship.
Speaker 1: But now he's good. I'm looking with z trip for
Speaker 1: about almost ten years. Yeah, yeah, that's my men. Know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's been like a vibe. Listen, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. When you walk through my hut and
Speaker 1: come right back on and like that, that's that's how happens.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna lie. I watched my my nephew
Speaker 1: was here. You gotta relax. I was talking about you
Speaker 1: in theory, your homie in the video. I was talking
Speaker 1: about your theory. I didn't know you, but it meant
Speaker 1: so much to our hood. It means so much of
Speaker 1: our neighborhood when you came out. Because we've been to Farmers.
Speaker 1: We understand what Farmers is, the red block, the red,
Speaker 1: black and green rock, how crazy Farmer's Boulevard is like
Speaker 1: from back then, I see a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: like Farmers is almost gentrified now almost a little bit.
Speaker 1: Got a whole fools. You gotta hope. Listen. Now they
Speaker 1: still got to you know, na, hell, no old fools
Speaker 1: over there. But it ain't it once you got a
Speaker 1: whole fool. I don't think it's a whole fools over there.
Speaker 1: I feel like places you're gonna juice the ball. You
Speaker 1: gotta juice spats over now that Jamaicans is running it.
Speaker 1: That was Maican, always Jamaicans and then a dress spot
Speaker 1: now queens at not Farmers ain't gentrified, but you know
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful community. It may not people may have
Speaker 1: may not have a lot of a lot of money,
Speaker 1: but they got a lot of dignity and they want
Speaker 1: to you know, they want to make something better for
Speaker 1: their families and they want to have a life, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And that you've got a mountain
Speaker 1: pot of people. You got Haitians, you got Jamaicans, you
Speaker 1: got Dominicans, you got you know, people you know from
Speaker 1: all different you know, just like all in that community.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful I think it's a beautiful place. You
Speaker 1: know so well, my friend's staff staff is from Farmers, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: can we ask him if there's a whole fools because
Speaker 1: I'm really not sure. No, he's crazy, he's taking I
Speaker 1: can't even talk, but I love him. I went to
Speaker 1: Google sto, I went to barn didn't go to like
Speaker 1: people was like, oh my god, why are you going in,
Speaker 1: but steppers from farmers boulavar So. I used to go
Speaker 1: to farmer's bulbar. I used to sit on the brock.
Speaker 1: I just sit on it as a chap. Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1: But this then then you came out and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I got killed. Yeah, that area now
Speaker 1: it's you know that area has been so because definitely
Speaker 1: it's like all the any other No, no, no, Brosten,
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. When Irish one shot them on
Speaker 1: non sent five shots would listen. I would take fifty,
Speaker 1: took ninety, took more than that. How actually take five? Okay,
Speaker 1: take fifty took shots is crazy at the I mean
Speaker 1: thank you out together the way I want to make
Speaker 1: you because he got up to fit. That's my man,
Speaker 1: that's my man. But I don't drink though, I don't
Speaker 1: drink like that. Now I drink occasionally, but now I
Speaker 1: don't drink like that occasions with you like drink champs.
Speaker 1: I'm in a podcast called drink Chips. How can I
Speaker 1: sit here and drink and drink? An let me use
Speaker 1: some more champagne. You want to think good? I'm good
Speaker 1: to take a shot already we had to pay a
Speaker 1: press of talking, ready to drink the house. We had carols.
Speaker 1: We had had a million ties. No caras had a
Speaker 1: million time. I can't lie if hannabis had a million
Speaker 1: caress one man go back to cannabis because I just
Speaker 1: want I just want you to. I just want you
Speaker 1: to understand how you destroyed the man's career. But it
Speaker 1: was dope. I mean, but he can't him out at
Speaker 1: the Barclay Center when I did the concert. But he's
Speaker 1: already bro. But put my arm around him and brought
Speaker 1: him out there. I did. I feel like it was
Speaker 1: too late. You crushed him too late late, baby. But
Speaker 1: in your mind, in your mind, you said, I gotta
Speaker 1: cross this little nigg But why did you do that?
Speaker 1: Because you know why defending myself because he was he
Speaker 1: was he was like computer literate at this time when
Speaker 1: nobody else he was the only nigger righting rounds on
Speaker 1: a computer. And I had a session with him and
Speaker 1: I said, what is he doing? He wrote around on
Speaker 1: I didn't like it pre personally, but you you acted
Speaker 1: on that. You ain't like it. HI five for being patty.
Speaker 1: Let's make some yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: some petty pills I'll take a petty pill every now.
Speaker 1: Ike petty pill. You're taking a petty pill every now
Speaker 1: and the take a petty pill every day, not every day.
Speaker 1: I don't take it every day, you know, I try
Speaker 1: to do my you know, they h they go lower.
Speaker 1: I go and the petty bills just in case. It's
Speaker 1: definitely a little bit to go out with that. I'm
Speaker 1: a thought to cloudy behind because I wish I wis
Speaker 1: showing me the best though, you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to see anybody have it exactly what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: you know, some people, they don't understand that when you
Speaker 1: crush the person career like, you actually crush their life.
Speaker 1: Do you are you ever like? Because you know, Komo
Speaker 1: d has never had a hit record since you you
Speaker 1: slaughtered him? White white white, white white white. What do
Speaker 1: Let's you never had to hit record after you dissed him.
Speaker 1: I'm just doing that. Yeah, that's a Now you know, man, listen,
Speaker 1: man his decisions. You gotta make your own decisions. He
Speaker 1: gotta make decisions decisions. You know, you get you know,
Speaker 1: you get to the crossroads. You gotta pick right or left.
Speaker 1: Now you cross these people career, can you say something
Speaker 1: nice for them. No, no, nothing, not nice, but say
Speaker 1: something the reason why? Because why did I do what
Speaker 1: I did? Very simple? Please, I'm making me I'm making
Speaker 1: very easy for you. My thing is this, you know,
Speaker 1: this was my feeling. My feeling is, you know, I
Speaker 1: have a fan base. I have people that you know,
Speaker 1: look to me and enjoy my music and celebrate my art.
Speaker 1: If you come out talking about you know, me in
Speaker 1: the fire way and trying to undermine me, you're trying
Speaker 1: to get in my pocket and you're stepping on my
Speaker 1: toes and you're in the way, and I gotta get
Speaker 1: you out of the way immediately. And that's why that
Speaker 1: was my thinking on And Mama said, not you out
Speaker 1: at a Minimumum, listen, listen makes dammit, I could be
Speaker 1: your story. I'm so sorry. I was. That was it.
Speaker 1: That was and and and then but Cannabis, I just
Speaker 1: felt like no, because you know what, I don't mean.
Speaker 1: I noticed my nephew relaxed, Relax. Why are you having me?
Speaker 1: I want to ask ask some song already you have
Speaker 1: to fight it song with Jamie Fox like that. Any
Speaker 1: given Sunday, I've seen that, I've seen that movie yesterday.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. This is why God is good.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't sleep because you know why I
Speaker 1: still listen Petty Pills, just keep you up. I can't
Speaker 1: s Petty, I can't sleep. Let me tell you, let
Speaker 1: me tell you. Listen when when now my interview an artist,
Speaker 1: I want to give them the most respect ever, because
Speaker 1: because hip hop should be a celebration. I sat down
Speaker 1: with Leo Colins the other day and he said, the
Speaker 1: reason why you're winning because this is going to be
Speaker 1: you know, you are actually celebrating it. It's don't looking
Speaker 1: at I'm looking right. And then again in Sundays on
Speaker 1: my TV, so I look at it and in mind you,
Speaker 1: I forgot I had did like two or three songs
Speaker 1: for it. So I'm like, oh, my visions business. But
Speaker 1: then I'm looking and I'm like damn. And then when
Speaker 1: you and um Jamie Fox actually interacted and me hearing
Speaker 1: the room was I'm actually looking at it like this
Speaker 1: is great cinema. This is really great cinema, Like this
Speaker 1: is actually now I'll tell you what happened, tell us
Speaker 1: what happened. We don't know what really happened. You know
Speaker 1: the real story is that I am you know when
Speaker 1: we were doing the scene. You know, I think you know, Jamie,
Speaker 1: although he was experienced to someone, he was still a
Speaker 1: little green. I wasn't quite as green, but I was
Speaker 1: green too, and you know, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: and experience, you know what I'm saying. So hum we
Speaker 1: were doing the scene, I was being aggressive one. I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you gotta, but this is character to character.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you gotta, you know, and I'm seeing
Speaker 1: that we talking about or he did something like that.
Speaker 1: I did the huddle after and I'm like, yo, you gotta,
Speaker 1: and I'm slapping the shoulders and this and that and
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, okay, but he's got equipment on. It's
Speaker 1: not like you know, like you know, he's got a
Speaker 1: quick it on. You know, yo yo yo. So he
Speaker 1: got up setting and he's like, yo, you know me
Speaker 1: so rough with me. So I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: that didn't compute. So I don't know. So we did
Speaker 1: another take and I was rough with him again, and
Speaker 1: then you know, I don't know why, but you know,
Speaker 1: he thought it was a good idea to punch me
Speaker 1: in my face. Not in the script. No, it wasn't
Speaker 1: the script. No, this wasn't a scripting. No, no, I'm
Speaker 1: keeping hunting with you. You want me to keep it,
Speaker 1: hunt it, keep it, I'm gonnaunch. He punched me in
Speaker 1: my face, so I looked at him. After he pushed
Speaker 1: me on face, I said, what do you do that?
Speaker 1: You looked that up pushed me in the face, and
Speaker 1: I looked at him. I slf I would describe to see.
Speaker 1: So I said, I feel like L was like that.
Speaker 1: I fething like that. Not quite. I looked that. I
Speaker 1: was a little tight. I was tight, you know, I
Speaker 1: was giving him tight. I was tight. I was getting him.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, looked at him. I said, what did
Speaker 1: you do that? And he said, um, look and he
Speaker 1: like was turned to the side, his helmet on. He
Speaker 1: had his helmet on. He was turned to the side.
Speaker 1: He said, I told you before don't put your hands
Speaker 1: on me. Period. So yo. When he said that, my
Speaker 1: left hand grabbed the face mask and as I was
Speaker 1: pulling his helmet off, my right hand was punching his ship,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know what. And then you know
Speaker 1: he's reading there and I was like, I thought he's
Speaker 1: faking because he sleeps. Then the whole team jumped on me, right,
Speaker 1: so they wrestled me down. You know, the whole team
Speaker 1: are so so so I'm under the huddle and I'm
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, and then somebody tries to reach in
Speaker 1: and like give me a little eye. Gal, somebody did
Speaker 1: that right, so oh yeah that was but not a
Speaker 1: good idea because I turned my head to the side
Speaker 1: and he caught us caught his hand. He's like, that
Speaker 1: doesn't given the whole m m A thing do speak
Speaker 1: a Yeah, you're gonna give me the leg lock. I'm
Speaker 1: biting your assick all that leg lock shit, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bite to throw it off me like we're gon. We
Speaker 1: got to get it in like this. The rule is
Speaker 1: out to the side, and he pulled his hand off
Speaker 1: the thing and then he finally broke it up. And
Speaker 1: then and then but but since then, me and Jamie
Speaker 1: got cool and we have laughed about it. We have
Speaker 1: laughed about it. We made songs together like cool. So
Speaker 1: I don't mind telling the story now. But you know
Speaker 1: what it is, it's just you know, but you know,
Speaker 1: Oliver is crazy. Oliver Stone. He had Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: the rest actually the guy that's actually the sports announcer
Speaker 1: in any given something. He's actually, yes, that's in there
Speaker 1: and I'm wrote He's like, he's who wrote scarf Fakes,
Speaker 1: so tune. You know, he is amazing. So you know,
Speaker 1: it was just a funny time, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But you know that was the thing. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just you know, Jamie, you know, he just got off,
Speaker 1: you know, he was he was on this Willie Beamon
Speaker 1: and I couldn't take it and all that. But like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, because you know, you know, and
Speaker 1: under the right circumstances, you might let a punch slide.
Speaker 1: You might. I mean, you know, it's not impossible. Now,
Speaker 1: everybody's not a straight murderer all the time. Dude hits you.
Speaker 1: Under the right circumstances, you'd be like if he would
Speaker 1: have said to me, like you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: just I would have been lying. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I could took it. Then I take
Speaker 1: that back, Yeah I could have took it. I couldn't
Speaker 1: take I couldn't handle because you didn't handle it. You
Speaker 1: drove me insane. I would have been waking up in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night just like he played me,
Speaker 1: like I just couldn't take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So because you even beat niggas up. But who broke
Speaker 1: in your house? The niggas that broke in your house,
Speaker 1: you pounding them out? Yeah, I don't want to. That's
Speaker 1: that's a rough one. Note se because the difference with
Speaker 1: that is that that wasn't funny because I was terrified.
Speaker 1: Oh worry, we'll half court. I mean, listen, man, if
Speaker 1: it's one in the morning, you know, and you come
Speaker 1: down from tell you your segways on the questions. You're
Speaker 1: very smooth, and it's very attractive. It's very smooth and subtle.
Speaker 1: It's a nice thing you're doing because you hook a scene,
Speaker 1: you get it nice, your baby, you set it out,
Speaker 1: you see it out, and the nice thing. You know,
Speaker 1: people are talking this very jelly. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 1: That's good. Attorney, that's good. That's good. That's good. That's
Speaker 1: good for me. That's im. Sorry, it's very smooth. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. It was amazing. It was like it was
Speaker 1: wonderful to watch, you know, because I was amazing. I
Speaker 1: was saying at me too, like but not when the
Speaker 1: dude broke in my house. And difference is that, you know,
Speaker 1: I have fights growing up, and we've all all of us.
Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody in this room had fights in the
Speaker 1: hood and different things you scraped or whatever, But but
Speaker 1: how many of us have really four or fire lives.
Speaker 1: Maybe dudes in jail. You might get that feeling, you know,
Speaker 1: you did a big you feel like you're fighting for
Speaker 1: your life, fighting for your life, doesn't It's not the
Speaker 1: same funny feeling like fighting, like in the whole of
Speaker 1: just you know, let's get let's get it, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I'm like like, I'm really this
Speaker 1: is for keeps, you know, I'm gonna get it in
Speaker 1: like whatever. Only read it on TMZ. And so it
Speaker 1: was one in the morning, and uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: the alarm pad went off, but it's you know how
Speaker 1: you have an alarm and like for those of who
Speaker 1: are have an alarmed, it will give you a minute
Speaker 1: to put your cold in it'll go and you have
Speaker 1: to turn your long off with mine just went. And
Speaker 1: so I went to the keypad, small sleep and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the key pad, I'm like, um, family room
Speaker 1: And she said family, wasn't it. And so I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: what you mean when when its telling you with the
Speaker 1: default is the default? I think that's the word, so,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, I'm in my drawers this
Speaker 1: one in the morning. So I just said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, it's like my daughter sneaking and you know what, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know she's coming out. I'm like, don him, yeah,
Speaker 1: me going out of here and see what's happening. So
Speaker 1: I'm just walking downstairs my drawers. I turned the law off,
Speaker 1: walks downstairs, come down, and when I was going towards
Speaker 1: the kitchen, he's coming out of the kitchen and then
Speaker 1: we face the face and he's got all black on.
Speaker 1: He's got a big bag, he's got the man the
Speaker 1: lawn manson bid boots, you know, and he's looking at black. No,
Speaker 1: he's white. He's a white dude. Are you you pounding
Speaker 1: him out? Me? Oh god, oh god, let's let's go there.
Speaker 1: Oh god. I mean, you know, it was freaky. It
Speaker 1: was freaky. I think, you know, a stupid mother, stupid mother,
Speaker 1: stupid mother, mother, stupid mother, mother, stupid mother, a stupid mother,
Speaker 1: stupid everything you get, every stupid mother you get, stop
Speaker 1: but everywhere. And I was like, you know, and then
Speaker 1: I you know, I got him down, and then it
Speaker 1: took the police about you skipped. You got him down,
Speaker 1: and now I don't want to but how we rock
Speaker 1: for a minute and get hit him with that cross
Speaker 1: fit And when you got your drawers on, that's some
Speaker 1: real like, that's some real gorilla like man, I feel
Speaker 1: like you like for the old school dudes. I feel
Speaker 1: like pent tech. You have my drawers all this ship,
Speaker 1: you know, no socks. It's like I'm swinging a room.
Speaker 1: It's like it's made some mind. You want downstairs? You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't know, you yo yo, you and your drawers
Speaker 1: and everything. I don't care. You and your drawers in
Speaker 1: your house, going to get some juice, drinking out the juice,
Speaker 1: but like that nobody knows you drink out of the
Speaker 1: same one you give to all your guess you know,
Speaker 1: you know. And I just went down in their homes,
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere and it was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: it was turning. He was like, I was like, and
Speaker 1: it just you know, we just had the rock like
Speaker 1: and then you know, and I'll tell you the deepest
Speaker 1: thing though, you know, this is the part that's not
Speaker 1: fun even, is that there was a point when I
Speaker 1: had to decide whether or not he should stay alive.
Speaker 1: And him know, when I had him subdued, because I
Speaker 1: didn't know if he had anyone else with him, some dude.
Speaker 1: When I had him, when I had control of the situation,
Speaker 1: when I had him on the ground, on his back, no,
Speaker 1: on his stomach, finished and you know, laying there. I
Speaker 1: had to make that decision because I didn't know if
Speaker 1: he had someone upstairs. You know, I didn't know if
Speaker 1: people were coming from. So I had to think. I
Speaker 1: didn't have rope available. I'm not planning like you know,
Speaker 1: you know, lll Max and like I don't have rope
Speaker 1: rope around the house. And just as after time, somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm like looking at the do and
Speaker 1: I had to make a decision, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: and I credit I credit someone because she's like I
Speaker 1: just just just wait the guy she's calling the cops.
Speaker 1: She got on the nine on one. You know. I
Speaker 1: saw my daughter come down the steps and she's like like,
Speaker 1: what the drawers are I'm like, this is freaky. And
Speaker 1: my youngest daughter slept through the whole thing. She had
Speaker 1: a playmate, she had a playmate or a play date,
Speaker 1: and she had you know, somebody over the house. They
Speaker 1: slept through the whole thing, and then her parents was
Speaker 1: the interesting thing. Her parents called the next like that
Speaker 1: morning when we woke up, there was like, oh you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah she can stay. You know, it's no like he's
Speaker 1: got my daughter like to stay true. Just don't know,
Speaker 1: she said she. I'm like, yo, they must be having
Speaker 1: a really good time. Whenever they're doing, they really going
Speaker 1: because okay, So that was it. Because again if people
Speaker 1: telling me you gotta leave, and I gotta respect you
Speaker 1: because I really love you. But before we get up
Speaker 1: out of here, I need to know about raised out.
Speaker 1: She was raised represent Queen, She was raised represent represent Queen.
Speaker 1: She was raised in Brooken. What about it? I just
Speaker 1: needed you to break that down. I represent Queen because
Speaker 1: Angie Martinez forever, I thought it was about her. That's serious.
Speaker 1: Not saying the record was about I'm saying she represented
Speaker 1: that record. She always okay, I'm always I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: Let me get up like it's my first step, you
Speaker 1: know what happened to life? I didn't mean like that,
Speaker 1: but I mean like because she was oh yeah, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's just a record, like you know, that was it
Speaker 1: was what it was, you know, it was it was
Speaker 1: funny because you know that was a beat that Richard
Speaker 1: had let me hear. It's lights and blinking and don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. Oh, I thought it was the roll,
Speaker 1: you know, I just uh that beat. You know, Puffy
Speaker 1: actually had wanted that beat for Biggie and uh, you
Speaker 1: know he called me, I want my beat back, not
Speaker 1: so much. I love you but and I'm no. But
Speaker 1: you know, Pustle my man and Big understood. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was mine. It was what it was.
Speaker 1: It was just like you know, you know how producers
Speaker 1: they play everybody beats and Biggie you know, he really,
Speaker 1: you know, God bless him me. He rest in pieces
Speaker 1: of talented artists. Um, he really had his heart set
Speaker 1: on that one, you know. But you know that's how
Speaker 1: it went. Who's your favorite producer? Producer? I'll getting the
Speaker 1: stupid or what it's say. I mean, it's some amazing
Speaker 1: producers out there, man, it would be. I mean, give
Speaker 1: me one, I don't even want to say, man, give
Speaker 1: me two, I don't even want to say. But yo,
Speaker 1: it's some crazy producers. Three give me a topers, some
Speaker 1: top three, top three? Okay? Um, I think uh, I
Speaker 1: think Dre is serious. I agree, I think, Um, I
Speaker 1: think Timberland is serious. And uh I didn't expect that one. Um.
Speaker 1: You know it's been a while, but you know, Molly
Speaker 1: was really really serious, you know what I mean in
Speaker 1: Primo and Premo. You know Premo serious really really I
Speaker 1: wanted you to say, Molly Mam like yo, yo, listen man,
Speaker 1: I you know I love all of these dudes. Man,
Speaker 1: my son, my son is scared to walk through ye
Speaker 1: give them five, Give them five and you're revolt TV
Speaker 1: got damn because this is because this is because you
Speaker 1: know your people are telling me you gotta go, and
Speaker 1: I gotta respect your people. Yeah. So, and you know what,
Speaker 1: because I respect you because if it wasn't for you
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, it wouldn't beat me. And
Speaker 1: I always respect. I respect you too. But I have
Speaker 1: to ask because I feel like you brought this to
Speaker 1: hip hop, the go the greatest of all time. That
Speaker 1: phrase came from you know, I got it. I got
Speaker 1: it from Ali. You know what I'm saying. We didn't
Speaker 1: know that from you know Ali. You know what we're saying,
Speaker 1: the greatest all time. But I made it to go
Speaker 1: all time. I think I probably have one of the
Speaker 1: greatest careers. You know, I think that on any given day,
Speaker 1: somebody can make a better song. But it's really about
Speaker 1: a career, um and it's about Yeah, you are the
Speaker 1: greatest all time. I appreciated. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of times, a lot of times you gotta
Speaker 1: remember that. You know. I don't know, you know, but
Speaker 1: if I got popped when Mama said knock you out,
Speaker 1: came out, maybe people would feel different about me. You
Speaker 1: gotta relax because you want that, you know, you want
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What I'm saying like if if something
Speaker 1: had if I was you know, got shot or was
Speaker 1: finished up or got done, if somebody didn't, No, I
Speaker 1: never received that at all. God No, I don't know
Speaker 1: if rock him would have went away. What I'm basically
Speaker 1: saying is that that there is something magical that happens
Speaker 1: with great artists when they're not here and they get
Speaker 1: you know, looked at, people grow to appreciate them. But
Speaker 1: it's magical happening with you right now. What you're being
Speaker 1: doing TV Blessed Lips, think Battle. We are all sitting
Speaker 1: bast like everything's all moves. I make hip hop right now,
Speaker 1: You had to be hit. But but I wanted to
Speaker 1: be here and you came here because you hip hop
Speaker 1: and you and you hip hop. Thank you, thank you out.
Speaker 1: But I just want you to know that if you
Speaker 1: never heard it before, even though you brung this um
Speaker 1: phrase to hip hop, you are the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. And what's what's really? You? Alive?
Speaker 1: I am? I am? I'm truly I am. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of people were saying it's all time recipes. That's true,
Speaker 1: that's true. I rather recipe. I'd much rather be alive
Speaker 1: in debating it. How about that one we're saying the
Speaker 1: greatest live in them. You know, we're saying the greatest
Speaker 1: all the time. Ain't of my role sting for it's
Speaker 1: time that makes it time. But listen out. We were
Speaker 1: appreciate you out. I know you gotta go, We know
Speaker 1: you're on a schedule. We understand everything you do. This
Speaker 1: is what we do, what our our culture, our society.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, everybody up there and be quiet. Our society
Speaker 1: is about giving our legends flowers when they can smell them,
Speaker 1: and give them trees when they can in hell them.
Speaker 1: And because you know why, our culture. When you get
Speaker 1: the thirty years, you get to forty years, you get
Speaker 1: to forty five or fifty years, they ride us off.
Speaker 1: But meanwhile Motley Crew was out there touring meanwhile fucking
Speaker 1: rolling Stones. And I don't got no beef with them.
Speaker 1: I don't give myself, but I want to continue to
Speaker 1: support our culture. And you know, also what would help
Speaker 1: that is, you know, if the veteran artists make better
Speaker 1: decisions and if they value themselves. You know, I am humble,
Speaker 1: that's true, but I do know my value. No, we know,
Speaker 1: you know, and I understand who I am. I'm clear
Speaker 1: about that, and you know my business decisions and the
Speaker 1: moves that I may reflect that. And you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of our artists, you know, they
Speaker 1: forget who they are and then you know, they think
Speaker 1: that it's about your last hot record. But it's not.
Speaker 1: It's more than that. It's more than just need their head.
Speaker 1: It's not everybody be quiet, because I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I need to hear you know. It's not it's about
Speaker 1: your career. It's about you know. That's one of the
Speaker 1: things Russell told me earlier, is about having a career.
Speaker 1: You know, I could go out and play, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, and have fifty sixty seventy thousand people out there.
Speaker 1: I can go out there and you know, do festivals.
Speaker 1: I can go do different things. And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, our veterans sometimes they forget that, they forget
Speaker 1: who they are. They get lost, they get discouraged because
Speaker 1: they make it about the radio. They make it about
Speaker 1: only fourteen year olds. They make it about but yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta television now, you know, destroy me, you know.
Speaker 1: So I just you know, I just think we just
Speaker 1: have to know who we are. We gotta believe in ourselves.
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't. What I would say to you,
Speaker 1: to all of viewers is that you gotta remember that
Speaker 1: dreams don't have deadlines, and you gotta remember never to
Speaker 1: limit yourself. You know. Colonel Sanders started Kentucky for you
Speaker 1: Chicken at sixty five years old. There are no limits
Speaker 1: on this thing. You can be successful as long as
Speaker 1: you want to be successful. You know. Michael Jackson had
Speaker 1: he he May Rest in Peace, had hot records, he
Speaker 1: had a sold out world tour coming. He was fifty
Speaker 1: years old when he passed. Don't under don't you know
Speaker 1: overestimate the gift of youth and underestimate the gift of experience.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying because you know, and like
Speaker 1: I say to all the artists out there, like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people found out when
Speaker 1: they put their gets on SoundCloud that it's not as
Speaker 1: easy to make hot shit as you thought them four views?
Speaker 1: How you like them four or five years? That's that
Speaker 1: trip I was not working for you. You know, remember
Speaker 1: you and you were critiquing my album, but one you
Speaker 1: said it was trash. You know you got trash because
Speaker 1: it only way gold? How do fur views feel like?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know, you know you can?
Speaker 1: You can you lead the Betty game with me because
Speaker 1: you know, because when it's like they threw them, It's
Speaker 1: like if if one thing I will say about hip
Speaker 1: hop is a funny just a sideball, if hip hop
Speaker 1: was the NBA, it's like they took the ball and
Speaker 1: through it to the stands. It's like a mike, Like
Speaker 1: we just said, they just threw the audience in the
Speaker 1: crowd and say y'all do it. So now everybody's you know,
Speaker 1: because for every chance, who is truly talented and yes,
Speaker 1: every one of them. There's a thousand of them that
Speaker 1: didn't do it. So what am I saying? Basically, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is there is some skill involved with this
Speaker 1: and it does take talent, and it isn't luck. We
Speaker 1: all need a little bit of luck sprinkled in our lives.
Speaker 1: But the guys who made it yourself, some of the
Speaker 1: other artists, you name some of these guys, your favorite
Speaker 1: rappers and artists, and they are talented. And you know,
Speaker 1: so what what the Internet has showed us is it's
Speaker 1: it's given us the opportunity to find out that, guess what,
Speaker 1: rappers really are talented. These guys really have talent, they
Speaker 1: really are artists. Because if that wasn't true, then everybody
Speaker 1: would be on, Yeah, there's a few hit what one
Speaker 1: hit one that's here and there, But this thing takes talent,
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, I think that that's just
Speaker 1: something that and those old school guys out there, they
Speaker 1: need to just make better decisions and remember that they're
Speaker 1: talented and not be not be overwhelmed by this idea
Speaker 1: that you're obsolete and irrelevant. This is not you know,
Speaker 1: when you're thirty five years old, you don't need to
Speaker 1: keep going back to your prom You know you don't
Speaker 1: have tell me life like you're going back to the
Speaker 1: prompt thirty nine exactly. I'll be forty this year, you know, Joan. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm doing three parties l A, New York and Miami.
Speaker 1: I love him. Can I have your party one of them?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why I threw that
Speaker 1: in there. I don't know why because I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: I mean, how you thinking we got here? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't believe. Let me tell you something. Really, look
Speaker 1: around at the life you created. Really, look at this.
Speaker 1: This is unbelievable. I don't let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: I love wis capon he Yo, listen. I'm gonna snuff
Speaker 1: him soon because he told me he's supposed to be
Speaker 1: it because listen, listen, listen. I don't. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't invite him the podcast. But when he hit me
Speaker 1: earlier and then listen, you know, I lie because I'll
Speaker 1: come from by later. So I lied to them. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you're talking. I know what had you locked there? Two thirty?
Speaker 1: But I told him, of course you did, because I
Speaker 1: come from Chris Ldy School. You know, we can't we
Speaker 1: can't fall asleep in the get away car though. You
Speaker 1: know people fall asleep in the get away cars, like
Speaker 1: take the bucket to check off lap and get out
Speaker 1: the car place. It's like, you know, we gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta be on time. That's another thing any discipline be on.
Speaker 1: Can we teach the youth about being on time? Because
Speaker 1: let me tell you something just now. Recently I've been
Speaker 1: you know, doing what I gotta do to Leo hits
Speaker 1: me and Lee all goes, I need to meet you
Speaker 1: at the Polo lounge. Right, This is no because I
Speaker 1: know it's loaded. His skin was already set. It's already
Speaker 1: to meet you at the poll up. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like me, we set it all up, but me and
Speaker 1: Ali is only there. Leo is already there. But he
Speaker 1: told us to mean there's at eight o'clock. But this
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to tell young people, is he
Speaker 1: told me to meet him at eight o'clock. We pulled
Speaker 1: up at seven five and he was already ready. There
Speaker 1: you go. He's sitting there like this, let's go, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy sh the best chair in the meeting
Speaker 1: and all that to get there. Yeah, listen, So this
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to tell young people. You're not
Speaker 1: supposed to show up at eight fifteen when it's eight
Speaker 1: o'clocks me and peoples to show up at seven forty
Speaker 1: five and scope out the joint. And also I would
Speaker 1: also say this, I would say that, you know, the cockiness,
Speaker 1: it's great for the records. Yes, if I make a
Speaker 1: ready to come to business, if I make a record tomorrow,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the cockiest thing you've ever heard in
Speaker 1: your life. But in between, it's it's okay to be humble.
Speaker 1: No humility. Humility is okay. I didn't say sudo. I
Speaker 1: didn't say sudo. I don't know what SUIT don't mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm yeah, I'm fourth, but you know, fake
Speaker 1: humility like you know, you know, but just be humble,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know people want
Speaker 1: to help you. Then you know you ain't gotta be
Speaker 1: you know all that all the time, you know, leaving
Speaker 1: on the records, leaving on your music, leaving on stage.
Speaker 1: But other than that, just be you. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I think you get a lot a
Speaker 1: lot further, you know, in your career. Okay, before we
Speaker 1: get you get about here because I know you gotta
Speaker 1: go because Claude is over there. You gotta go. But
Speaker 1: you actually have It's not just lip Sync Battle. It's
Speaker 1: not just you know, you're playing these others. You actually
Speaker 1: have a production describe to these young black kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you can actually how people. Well, I co produced
Speaker 1: UM the Grammy nomination show for for about five years.
Speaker 1: I'm a producer on lip Sync Battle was well, did
Speaker 1: you know how lightly he said that? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I think we should make noise for that.
Speaker 1: If somebody has, you know, if somebody has you know,
Speaker 1: TV ideas or ideas that I think are worthy. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna like everything. If I don't like it. If
Speaker 1: I don't like it, I'm gonna tell tell a person
Speaker 1: like I can send him to Claudine something like that.
Speaker 1: But we gotta be easy. It's a million people. Let
Speaker 1: me just tell you that one thing for Charltoning for certain,
Speaker 1: when Violator dispersed, it was probably the saddest day of
Speaker 1: my life. It was crazy because I didn't know anything
Speaker 1: other than Chris Likedy. I didn't know other things other
Speaker 1: than Claudine, Laurie Dublin's and so on. So Scott, I
Speaker 1: didn't know nothing. I feel you. So when when when
Speaker 1: Chris went away, it was probably the saddest day of
Speaker 1: my life. I feel you because I just didn't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do called Buster and Buster
Speaker 1: was already had another and he had now he was
Speaker 1: with James at that time for a minute, but it
Speaker 1: was like another management. It wasn't It wasn't like James
Speaker 1: was at the time. And I was just lost, like
Speaker 1: I just now finding myself with me personally. And one
Speaker 1: of the the very first persons people, I'm sorry, I said, persons,
Speaker 1: I'm like dyslexic. So as Claudine, and I said, Claudine
Speaker 1: was she has never ever made me question her. He
Speaker 1: has never ever done anything. And the fact that Claudine
Speaker 1: is with you and lets me know that you really
Speaker 1: living out violator brother, and I love you, my brother.
Speaker 1: I love I love that woman. Let's love. I love
Speaker 1: that woman. I love like Lolaudie. I love Claudine like
Speaker 1: you don't understand. And she actually said, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to meet your wife. And I made sure my wife
Speaker 1: came just to meet Claudine because she means so much
Speaker 1: to my life. Like I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: And I went and look for her. And when I
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't afforder up here, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: It was seven I was. I'm like that. But I
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough because you know what everything, that's
Speaker 1: where we all Chris likedys likely to keep his legacy
Speaker 1: first of all, you know, oh Chris on so many levels.
Speaker 1: I mean my Mr. Smith album, him connecting me with
Speaker 1: the track masters, we did that whole doing it recond
Speaker 1: you talk to this was done with me when we
Speaker 1: did that song. Um, you know Chris, you know, she's queen,
Speaker 1: she was raised a together. I gotta meet you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well but yeah, Chris was. He was a special guy
Speaker 1: and you know he's definitely be sorely missed. And um,
Speaker 1: I try to pay it forward by, you know, looking
Speaker 1: out for Tiffany. You know, when she's in l A,
Speaker 1: she stays with me, Um, you know, making sure that
Speaker 1: she's good. L Nori and Buster created a new violator
Speaker 1: and because you know, you know, let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something, al And I'm sorry it's gonna get very touchy,
Speaker 1: not for you, not for anybody here. But the other
Speaker 1: day d m X performed right where in the ball
Speaker 1: Clay Center. Okay, the whole hip hop said, damn, Max,
Speaker 1: don't look good. You know, he looks like he's smoking
Speaker 1: whatever whatever. But isn't it hops responsibility to say that
Speaker 1: this man gave us ten million records, this man gave
Speaker 1: us such and such. Why don't we just come take
Speaker 1: him and put him in the rehab or put him
Speaker 1: to whatever he needs to do to be safe. But
Speaker 1: you know what, hip hop don't have a union to
Speaker 1: do that. L is great, Nor's great, if Fin is great,
Speaker 1: Rich Blanco is great, Brandy Acca is great. Shouldn't we
Speaker 1: give one percent of something so that if anything like
Speaker 1: this happens, like Chris Lidy passing Tiffany, don't have to
Speaker 1: worry like DMX you know, have to go on the rehab.
Speaker 1: We can take care of that. I feel like hip hop,
Speaker 1: oh's hip hop? That am I bucking? Hell? No, you know,
Speaker 1: bugging you know, But um, that's that's a very complicated thing,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know sonns can't get their mothers off drugs. Man,
Speaker 1: you know that's a tough one. No, No, I don't
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying, but in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: unionizing hip hop and and you know, it's something to
Speaker 1: think about. Um strong management can you know, can create
Speaker 1: that kind of a vibe. It's not not it's nothing nothing.
Speaker 1: Look the laborers, look the people, the guys on the
Speaker 1: ground floor, to guys who had three four songs, the
Speaker 1: guys who you know, it would be great if they
Speaker 1: had the medical come on, we better but three or
Speaker 1: four or four? But three or four? So look Rob
Speaker 1: Basin DJ Easy Rock don't deserve to be they But
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't think it's nothing wrong. I
Speaker 1: think that's a good idea. But I think people take it.
Speaker 1: Takes a lot of time and a lot of commitment.
Speaker 1: There's real there's you know, you have to be real
Speaker 1: about things like but if you gave ten years of
Speaker 1: hip hop right right, you're dedicated to hip hop. Now
Speaker 1: you you you developed something type of disease. It only
Speaker 1: take forty to get to take to get rid of
Speaker 1: a disease. And there's people like us who have it.
Speaker 1: I'll give a band, You'll give a band, Jaz, give
Speaker 1: a band whatever sending that person's you know, I would
Speaker 1: always be willing to contribute to something like that as
Speaker 1: long as I know, dudes, ain't you know? No, No, No,
Speaker 1: it's transparent. It's transparent. A little profile. Who got them
Speaker 1: new perilities? Aunt that? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's transparent. We
Speaker 1: gotta be transparent, yes, because you know why, because the
Speaker 1: thing is, I don't want to give extra five thousand
Speaker 1: that I don't want to. I would totally, I would.
Speaker 1: I would have no problem with you know, look, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna be successful if you don't give period. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's just part of it. You know, that comes with territory.
Speaker 1: So if you think you're gonna be able to be
Speaker 1: a selfish prick and be successful, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be because it. People that are successful are
Speaker 1: successful because of the things they do right, and they
Speaker 1: departs of their life where they fail. They're unsuccessful because
Speaker 1: of the things they do incorrectly. And so you know,
Speaker 1: because a lot of times people think me, an evil
Speaker 1: guy is successful because he's evil. No, he's successful because
Speaker 1: he's doing something right. He also will reap the rewards
Speaker 1: are being evil in another area. So don't confuse it.
Speaker 1: People are successful because of what they do right, period,
Speaker 1: and they lose because of what they do wrong. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Just like sports, you win because
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