1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: And his Drink Chess motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rapper. 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: He's agreed, is your boy in o R. He's a 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: Miami hip hop pioneer. One up his d J e 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: f N. Together they drinking up with some of the 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet 6 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: number one source for drunk fast drinks motherfuckings New Year's 7 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: e that his time for drink Champs, drink up, mother Mother. Hey, 8 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Hank san Gria, Hope your Sava, it's your boy and 9 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: dot oh dot r dot E one of his DJ 10 00:00:52,040 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: e FN and his drink Chats motherfucking podcast. Something Right now, 11 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: we have what I would like to call the King 12 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: of hip hop, what I would like to call the 13 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: King of alternate. What I mean by that is after 14 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: your career has been done, He's the person who put 15 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: out the blueprint for what you're supposed to do after 16 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: your robs. This motherfucker is the King of Queens. I'm 17 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: saying it. I'm from Queens. I feel like I have 18 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: the authority. Is the King of Queens, the King of 19 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: New York, the King of hip hop. First artist ever 20 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: signed to Deaf Jam Rackets which means that I might 21 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: have not existed if it wasn't for this one A 22 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: lot of this real ship. And right now we got 23 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: the god father. I might, I might just call him 24 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: the father a motherfucking queens, New York and everything else 25 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: we got, and the motherfucker appreciate that. L Listen, Can 26 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I call you? Of course in my mind and my 27 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: mind always call your uncle El in my mind. I 28 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: don't know why. I like even when you say with 29 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: something to me, I'd be like, you know, like I 30 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: just I got so much respect for you, thank you, 31 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: not for you. And then and then you came to 32 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: my hood though, remember came to my hod. It made 33 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: me like And then run DMC came to and Diggie 34 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: Simmons came, and then Dickie Simmons he's he's smashing all 35 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: the little girls in my hood now. But you're putting 36 00:02:49,960 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: foul run around. But we got this baby. I don't 37 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: care what you say, but I gotta, I gotta, I 38 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: gotta tell you how how important you mean the queens, Uh, 39 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: not only queens, because if you look at queens, you 40 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: look at people like you Nas, Run DMC, you gotta 41 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: look at the whole spectrum of hip hop. So if 42 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: you say a person was a leader queens, a person 43 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: was actually the leader of a whole generation. So now 44 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: you have people like Drake, you have people like Ja Rule, 45 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: you have people all these people who actually they can't 46 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: say that they didn't pattern their style after you. How 47 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: do you feel about that? Well, you know, um, you 48 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: know hip hop is you know, hip hop is a 49 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: complex thing, man. I mean at the end of the day, 50 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: like you know, you know, if you're a decent looking fellow, 51 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: you gotta damn that kill yourself to be accepted by dudes, 52 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, pretty much. I mean, 53 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: look at Pop. You know it's a handsome dude, but 54 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: look what he had to do something, you know, I mean, 55 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: if if I made one more chance that with a 56 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: call to the love song, but from Biggie with something else, 57 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you know, it's kind 58 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: of like, you know, you gotta you gotta have It 59 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: takes courage to do what you love and you do 60 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: what you believe in, you know what I'm saying. And 61 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: that was my thing. It wasn't a matter of you know, 62 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: I just wanted to have girls, you know what I mean? 63 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: You know most of my did too. I mean, you know, 64 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: I figured out make some songs to try to get something. 65 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't, you know, I didn't realize that 66 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: that was like, you know, because you know the thing 67 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: with hip hop is that you know, if you're not 68 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: if you're not hit, if you're not spending gun balls 69 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: and talking about packs, that gold title is gonna be 70 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: elusive for you because you know, most of the time 71 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: the voting members, that's what they really you know, the 72 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: fellas really that's what they really wanted. And I too, 73 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, I just 74 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: decided that I was gonna do what I wanted to do. 75 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: I had the balls to just do what I wanted 76 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: to do, So you know I did hard records and 77 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: love records and hard records and weird records and creative 78 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: artsy ship do you think? Do you think? Because I 79 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: think that Al perfected the hard record and then the 80 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: crossover record after that, and then Biggie kind of took 81 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: that style. And the reason why I want to ask you, 82 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: have you ever thought like that? Because of the flavor 83 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: in your air, it was like they kind of try 84 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: to keep you closer. This is me as a fan. 85 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: I have no flavoring. I mean flaving first of all. 86 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: Flavoring year is so crazy because so many people thought 87 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: my trainees or some ship, you know what I mean, 88 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Like you knows run around here like that shout out 89 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: to my man top fight. That was something that we 90 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: used to say all the time, you know, saying just 91 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: when it was on in popping. I had no idea 92 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: that when they was gonna spell out the syllables were 93 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 1: gonna be And you know, oh, with all love and respect, 94 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, Traningville, you know what the man that's gonna 95 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: be there, you know, with all love and respect to everybody, 96 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: you know what you want beef and you know what 97 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But um uh yeah, you know, look man, 98 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: whether it's big or Noazle, you know the other guys, 99 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Like I respect all of artists for what they do, 100 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and respect anybody who's original 101 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: and and and does it from the heart, does it 102 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: from the soul. Like you know, I was listening to 103 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: that Kendrick record and when he had said, uh, um, 104 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: you know he does it from the soul. You do it? 105 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: You know, for you it comes from the meds. I'm paraphrasing, 106 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, I just love I 107 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: love hip hop. You know, I love the culture. You know, 108 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: I love everything about it. But the thing was, you know, 109 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: also at the same time, you know, I was never 110 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: gonna be a slave to the music business. So meaning 111 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: that the first time that I went and sat down 112 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: and said, yo, I'd like to get X amount as 113 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: an advance to this album, and somebody like they shoulder 114 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: shook a little bit when you radio. When I wrote 115 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: the Radio, I took a hero girl get a Yeah, 116 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, we forget it, so, you know, but I 117 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: just you know, look, man, I just like to do everything. 118 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: You know, I don't feel like you should limit yourself. 119 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: You know, if you have to tell me that, if 120 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: you have the talent to do many things, you shouldn't 121 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: be afraid to do that because dreams will have deadlines, 122 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of times, you know, in 123 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: our culture, especially in the black community and as young males, 124 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, we get boxed in to what marginalized. Well no, 125 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: not just marginalized by mainstream society, but boxed in in 126 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: the sense that you know, you feel like there's certain 127 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: things that you might have dreams, but you don't think 128 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: it's cool, you know what I'm saying. You might want, 129 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: You might be in origami, you might be into something 130 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: like like knitting like blankets and putting them over gates 131 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: like that. Because you're not a or you're not a 132 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: basketba player, You're not cool and wet. Wead to ourselves 133 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: with our music too, because we don't give us We 134 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: don't give ourselves freedom, you know what I'm saying, Like, 135 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: we don't give ourselves the freedom to do what we 136 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: want to do. We always feel like, you know, every 137 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: every time I make a song, I gotta worry about 138 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: what what this particular set of friends thinks. Forget my imagination, 139 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: but I might be imagining some other ship. It's not 140 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: that I don't want to make records that my friends like, 141 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: but what if I think of something else? Why can't 142 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: I do that? Right? Why can't I do that? And 143 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: so that's the thing that I kind of I always 144 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: acted on that impulse, you know, I never you know, 145 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: I never was like I just wouldn't listen to that, 146 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I just do what 147 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: I want to do, because who do you love? Yo? 148 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get to this. I've never you know, 149 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I've been seeing you for twenty years and I've never 150 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: asked you this question. What is pink cookies in the 151 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: plastic bathroom crush my ain't gonna lie. I've been going 152 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: with whatever, anything to say, I'll tell you. I'll tell 153 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: you what. No, no, it makes sense. No. No. I 154 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: was on the phone with a girl right and um, 155 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was at Molly Studio and she was 156 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: talking Molly Mom, Molly, Yeah, and I am all right, Uh, 157 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: I smell some weed, but I didn't in hell, you know. 158 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: And and uh, you know, after I smelled the weed, um, 159 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, after smelling the weed, I laid on the 160 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: couch and I was talking to this girl and she said, 161 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, yeah, She was like, what 162 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: are you talking about? Said baby, I don't know. I'm 163 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: thinking about heating cookies in the plastic bag and crushed 164 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: my buildings right now, she said, she said. And what 165 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: she said? What? I was like, that's the song background? 166 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: I said, your mother, I said, your mother, let's get it. 167 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: So I went downstairs, you know, and made the record, 168 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, let me. So it was so complicated that 169 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: I knew the explanation. Yeah yeah, it wasn't no, yeah, yeah, yeah, 170 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, yeah yeah, I'm not even I ain't come 171 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: here to line run for office. You know, That's what 172 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: it was, you know. And I had minute to satellite 173 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: floating in closet, spinding pockets. I had a few of them. 174 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: I got more of them jumping out of football jumping 175 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: out of a helicopter into a football stadi and filled 176 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: with cotton, candy and ship. I'm gonna tell you some 177 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: crazy ship. I'm gonna tell you one thing. Al I 178 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: know you don't know you taught me that. I know 179 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: you don't know what you told me this. But I 180 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: was on the Top forty tour, right, and I only 181 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: have seven dates on the top forty tour. You had 182 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: like seventy, right, and I didn't ride on the private jet. 183 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: I was commercial everybody else. You had your puff daddy 184 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: jar rule, this is this is this, this is that type. 185 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: But I got seven days. So every date that I 186 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: had had with you, like you had your room and 187 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: then you had your room for your people, and I 188 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: never disrupted you. I never came in there. But this 189 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: was one day I was like you kind of speak 190 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: to owl and I was like, who is it, and 191 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: they said Norway said let that nigger, and I felt 192 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: like he was shadow boxing. I don't know. So you 193 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: came in and I said, your el because you had 194 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: gave out roses this night. You had gave out roses, right, 195 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: so I said owl like. I'm I'm eighteen nineteen at 196 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: the time, I'm so young. So I'm like, oh, every 197 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: girl in the crowd is for you. Wow, are you 198 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: not out there? And you know what she told me. 199 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: You said I rolled my wife And I said why, 200 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: he said, because I never get in trouble yea, yeah, 201 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And let me tell you something to this day, 202 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: I rolled my wife. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you you 203 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: really don't you know, why get the money back? You know, 204 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm back like easy like And then you know, 205 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: the crazy thing is younger brothers come up to me 206 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: and be like, yo, Nori, why are you rolling with 207 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: your wife? And not just be like I'm gonna use 208 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: that now. We just say I don't want to get back. 209 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: But you know, you know, I you know, I had 210 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: moments Nori in my life, you know, I mean, I 211 00:12:54,480 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: you know, you know, uh you know, yeah, but you know, 212 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: but at the same time, we can't. Yeah, you gotta 213 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: he got easy tiger. You know, it's rough out there, 214 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: something water out there. Then I didn't know though when 215 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: you told me that, Yeah, I was like, el was 216 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: bugging or then I had to actually live. And then 217 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: when I lived, I said, so you thought he was 218 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: bugging out when he told me that. Oh no, I 219 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: was to my mind that party said he's retired, like 220 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: and then years later I was like, you, that reminds 221 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: me of a story I was. You know, I won't 222 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: say his name because I don't want to. It's rap dude. 223 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: You know. Back in day he came with me like, yo, yo, 224 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, let me hold something, you know, to paper, Well, 225 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: let me hold something, you know. I tried. I tried 226 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: to tell him about them. He's like, yo, let me 227 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: hold something. And I tried to tell him, you know, 228 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: talk to him about stocks and bonds and ship like that. 229 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: He was like, yo, may tell me some stock. Let 230 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: me hold something. Stocks and bos. So that reminds me 231 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: of that, like at a point at some you're not you. 232 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: You only can understand it when you're ready for it. 233 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: You did not ready for it, and a lot of times, 234 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, and That's true with music too, because you 235 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: can do music and put it out there and people 236 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: just don't understand it and it flies over their head 237 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: and they catch it later. You know what I'm saying. 238 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes that happens to whoever seen I'll perform before raise 239 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: your hands. God damnit, it should be more people raising 240 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: your hands, let me say so. At one point in 241 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: this show, he takes off his shirt just get every 242 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: woman a flower and they're super wet. You could just 243 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: tell because the heads just like are you Like that's 244 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: the goal? And you know, I'm so, I'm a kid. 245 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm eighteen nineteen years Chris like, he's like, yo, you 246 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: gotta go, you gotta follow. I'm like, all right, cool, 247 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: and I'm doing it. They're all on private planes. It's okay. 248 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting there, is okay. I'm still happy and I'm 249 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: like al and al. It's like he knocked none of 250 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: them down. Yeah. I couldn't believe it, Like yeah, person, 251 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, yeah yeah, and you so content 252 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: and now you can't handle I live, Like, do you 253 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: approve my lifestyle? The seven You ain't judging the lands 254 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: toe that's ever gonna judge you as me? No, I 255 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: still need you to prove my life to say I 256 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: approve this message. I lived ten years behind you because 257 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: you know my I got holloween in my closet, saw 258 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: all type of bones and tosstoons, type of away from 259 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: that risk boons fine spine hanging over the closet door 260 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: school albo Man. I gotta ask you this, this, This 261 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: is not for the for the podcast, This is not 262 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: for anything. This is because I sincerely respect cool I 263 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: love Cooj. I looked up to al COJ. But you 264 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: did kind of crushed cannabis career early and I never 265 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: knew why, like me personally, like why no, I don't know, 266 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: I know the industry answer why. I mean, you know, 267 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: the real disrespect you in the session? What happened because 268 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: you're a queen's nigger and I respect what respect it? 269 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: What happened? You know? Um? I mean the real honest 270 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: answer is that, you know, one day, you know, we 271 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: was I was on my way to student and it 272 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: came up to me and you know, and you know 273 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: my you know, uh, because it was a little taller 274 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: than me. It was a little taller than me a 275 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: little bit, so you know, he walked up and he 276 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: was like yo, you know yo, your tattooed man like 277 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: your tattoo, and we get one like that. I said, Now, 278 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you gotta get your own, you know, 279 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't understand that, like nictally, like I 280 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: didn't understand that your own joint, Like I didn't really know. 281 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: I just didn't understand it. Like it was no disrespect. 282 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: I was like, you got your own, don't get one 283 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: like that. And then it's something we had that conversation 284 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: when I got when I went in and heard his boss, 285 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: he said, is that a mic on your all? Let 286 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: me baw that? And I just like was like, I 287 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: just did not understand. I just yeah, I couldn't understand it. 288 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 1: I just like, okay, and that was it. Take me 289 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: from that moment he already had. Isn't you that you 290 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: already had your version? Then you changed? Is that? No, 291 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: that's not the truth is I went in, I heard 292 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: what he said, and I responded to the ship, that's 293 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: the on your record. I didn't take him off. I 294 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 1: was too ignorant for that. A smart guy, you know, 295 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: jay Z, would have took him off the record. Let 296 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: it smart. I was an idiot. But you have ignorant. 297 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you I'm at that time, I was 298 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: king around and said, now this is some reason and 299 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: he said, norry, do you know what's going on? But 300 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: I'm acting like I'm done. I'm like, no, l L 301 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: is battling cannabis. And told him, just looking at him, 302 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: my mind, I know what's going on, and I'm like 303 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: where he's like, y'all. But then yeah, but see, the 304 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: thing is what people don't know is that I you know, 305 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: after that I saw him cannabis and after crust his career, well, no, no, 306 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: I saw him and I said, yo, And he was 307 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: debating about putting a song about me out. I said, yo, don't. 308 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: I went to him, I said, Yo, you know what, Okay, 309 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: it happened on the record. I And first of all, 310 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna know if you don't make a record. I said, 311 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: that's the first thing I never knew. And now that's 312 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: a very important party. I told him this. So you're 313 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: saying before before before reaction record came out, I met 314 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: with him. I didn't know that. I said, yo, I said, 315 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: don't put no record. Nobody's gonna know. Just leave it. 316 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I got a little high hand. It's 317 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 1: between us to leave. He said, I don't know if 318 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: I don't put it out out of the politics, and 319 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, and I'm like, you know, and then the 320 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: black clefts over in the corner, and then the betting 321 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: and ship. You know, now now I love, it's all good. 322 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: But then he put the record out. And then you know, 323 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: then because I told him, I said, Yo, let's just 324 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: do a record together. You know what I mean, Yes, 325 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: I said that. I said we should have did a 326 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: red let's just do a record together. We could, you know, 327 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: because I didn't really want the drama, but you know, 328 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: it is what it is, you know. And then I, 329 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, I just responded and that was it, you know, 330 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: and we we did what we did. And you know, 331 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: you an, you crossed his career, so we don't gonna 332 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: make no noise. Don't worry about it. 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How did that start? 368 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: Because it seems like I'll you might not start it, 369 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: but you definitely finished well, I said, I said on 370 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: the record, I said, I'm only eight team, making more 371 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: of your pops. And he felt offended by that, making 372 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: more than your pops. And he was offended because he 373 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: thought it was the wrong message because I was making more. Well. No, no, 374 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: he thought I was sending a bad message to two 375 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: young kids out there like I was, because you know, 376 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: looked when I coming up, when I was growing up, 377 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, sixteen seventeen eight, like seventeen eighteen nineteen, I 378 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: was always with Rich Porter. I was always with Alpo 379 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: and a Z and my man Big Chuck for Mount 380 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: Vernon took me with them. So that's who I used 381 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: to be always hanging up with. I would be on 382 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: one three two, and you know, always uptown. Not not 383 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: fat Cat even though he was from Queens. I know 384 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: Prem and I knew you know, the Fatatto brothers and 385 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: all of them. I knew, I knew them. But I 386 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: was like to make no sign out I was. I was. 387 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: I was a short So when I like, when I 388 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: knew the Fotatles, they was giving me warm champagne. Like, 389 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: hey man, you begging for champagne, you know what I mean. 390 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: But when I started hanging out with Chuck, yeah, the champagns. 391 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: It's not I don't take it person gonna make you know. 392 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: So when I you know, when I used to hang 393 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: with with you know, without Pole, and when Chuck would 394 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: take me around and hang without Po and Azy and 395 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: Rich and all of them, and Black just used to 396 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: come a little later. M he rest in peace. Um, 397 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: you know, I just came up, you know, in a 398 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: different you know, thought process, you know what I'm saying. 399 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: And I just tried to do things right, you know 400 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: what I mean, that's all. Basically, did you know Benny 401 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: was the biggest drug dealer in Queens when he was 402 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: hanging with him at one point? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 403 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: I know Ben was my man, you know what I'm saying. 404 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: I hung with them, you know, you know the whole time, 405 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, I was, and some of his initial escapades. 406 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: But you know what the thing is about that, what 407 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: people have to understand about that is that, first of all, 408 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: we don't want to glorify that because it's not cute. 409 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: We do not um and it's a tough life and 410 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: it destroys lives. And most of the guys that are 411 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: really doing it for real, which a worman okay, and 412 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: the ones that are really successful at it, I really 413 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: wish they were successful at something else, anything else. It's 414 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: a horrible way to live, okay, And we confront ack 415 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: like it isn't, but it is. It's a very tough 416 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: way to live, alright, because I've seen it firsthand for real, 417 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: and but you know it. It taught me a lot though, 418 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: and learned a lot. You know, I forgot the point 419 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: I was trying to make because I was no because 420 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: you know why, you know, I'm telling you the point 421 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: just trying to make because at one point, oh so, 422 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: basically he thought that I was glorifying that lifestyle. When 423 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: I said so, he wanted to, you know, be conscious 424 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: about that. But what he didn't understand is that you 425 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: know that I'm an eighteen year old young man and 426 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't know anything else but this, you know, growing 427 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: up in the hood, I'm just throw yeah. But when 428 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: you're growing up in the hood and I see a 429 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: car drive by, that's all I know. It ain't and 430 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: I see a guy how he gets it, That's all 431 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: I know. It's not about I'm not even thinking about 432 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: right and wrong and consequences and ruining my life. And 433 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: you don't even think on that level. That doesn't even 434 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: come into your brain. The only thing you think is 435 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm here, and the money's there, and where do I 436 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: gotta go to get it? That's all you really think about. 437 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: Now when you're older, you get in your thirties, your 438 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: late twenties, and you know, maybe before you can start 439 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: reflecting and kind of cleaning up your life. So I 440 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: think he had the right attention, but that the problem 441 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: was that he wasn't merciful and understanding that I was 442 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: a young kid. And this is always thinking now on 443 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: the MC level. You know, you know, I've never shot 444 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: away from trying to snap somebody's head off. You know, 445 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: I feel like the battle now, I feel like it's 446 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: feeling right now. I felt like he was gonna beat 447 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: up Charlemagne recently. What happened? You know? My think, No, No, 448 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: my thing. My thing with Homie is, you know, you 449 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: know he he likes to get on the radio and 450 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: bully people. You know what I'm saying. I don't like bullies, 451 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: me neither. You know what I'm saying, I really don't 452 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: like bullies. And you know, I understand he's a small guy. 453 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: I get that. But the bully thing didn't work for me, 454 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: and I felt like he was picking on me and 455 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: undermining my my, my, my brand and my my my, 456 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: my five you know what I'm saying. But I wasn't 457 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: gonna go up there and do the baby thing. I 458 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: just told him. Look, I just told him, listening when 459 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: you got me, let me do that. I love baby, 460 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: that's my man. But I wasn't doing that. I'm not 461 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: gonna go to your show, your show, why you make money. 462 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: We're not doing that. And by the way, that's the 463 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: most view. I'm sure, I'm sure, but my thing was, Look, 464 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: you know, I said, look, let's just box a charity. 465 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: You know, I give uneople up now, but I was 466 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: agen for charity, not when you're boxing for I'm gonna 467 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: be honest with you. I don't be honest with you. 468 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: Nobody want to box that I didn't want to. You 469 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't look, I don't want I'm not. 470 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: I have no problems with him. I wish from the best. 471 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: Just leave me alone and don't pick on me. Just 472 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: don't pick on I don't like to get you. You know, 473 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: everybody watching this pocket no, I can't. I don't plan 474 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: everybody in hip hop, you know, I don't get carried away. 475 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: But there's some crazy one. But everybody watching this podcast 476 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: don't bully, don't be bullies, and don't pick on people. 477 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: Because that was my only problem with And you felt 478 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: like he was picking on yeah, because he's always got 479 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: something to say, like he doesn't understand, Like I give 480 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: you an example, like, you know, everybody was mad at me, 481 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: and I understand their point of view, but everybody was 482 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: mad at me about you know, the whole accidental racist record. 483 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that was a big conversation. 484 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: And they thought, you know or else, you know, aiding 485 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: in the betting of us forgetting slavers verse your verse 486 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: saying the change. Yeah, they didn't. So what they didn't 487 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: understand is that, you know, now fast forward and look 488 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: at the shape the countries in, and you think about 489 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: what me and him was attempting to do. It was 490 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: the logical, but looking where to shape the country's in? 491 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: Now you did. People at that point thought that I 492 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: was out of my mind for talking comparing a do 493 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: rag to a Confederate flag. But now you're seeing little 494 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: brothers get shot down every day because of the outfits. 495 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: Whether it's a hoodie. It may not be a do rag, 496 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: but maybe it's a hoodie with tray Von, maybe some 497 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: sagging jeans. Maybe it's a brother outside of SUV getting 498 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: shot down. That's the thing I was talking about. I 499 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: was trying to humanize us. I would never suggest that 500 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: we forget our history. That's absurd, it's ludicrous. But you 501 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: gotta be willing to Like, I'll give you another example. 502 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: Like people is mad at me what I said? Oh 503 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: r I p Robert E. Lee. I hate he I 504 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: can say that Robert R. I p Robert E. Lee. 505 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: They hated me. He was a general in the Confederate Army. Yeah, 506 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: I understand how people feel. But when that when that 507 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: racist dude ran up in that church and he shot 508 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: up all of those people and that black church down south, 509 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: and then those black people got together and said, you 510 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: know what, you know, we're praying for him, and we 511 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: forgive him and we want to send love to him. 512 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: The country helped them in high esteem because they were 513 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: able to get beyond their emotions and see the bigger picture. 514 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: And that's what I was trying to show people, you 515 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But it took four years and 516 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: all of these people dying by the hands of of 517 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: corrupt police, because not all police are corrupt, you know 518 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: what I mean, but dying by the hands of some 519 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: of these corrupt policemen and dying at the hands of 520 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: in the wrong way. For people don't understand that what 521 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: I was saying and what me and Brad would attempting 522 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: to do was very real, you know what I'm saying. 523 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: But that's why the whole they laugh at you, then 524 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: they ignore you, then they fight you, then you win 525 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: things true because they laughed at us. Then you know 526 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: that's and now everybody was laughing at us. You know, 527 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: but then when you and then they ignored us. But 528 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: now look at what's going on now, they're trying to 529 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: fight that same they're trying to promote those same vibes, 530 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: those same values that we talked about. So you know, 531 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: that's about the courage. That's about art. You know, that's 532 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: what art does. It provokes people. You know what I'm saying. 533 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: I just want to say to you if you don't 534 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: know how much you appreciate it in the hip hop, no, 535 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: but I appreciate hip hop. No, But listen, let me 536 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: just tell you something. If it wasn't for L cool J, 537 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: there wouldn't be a NAS. It wasn't for Nas, there 538 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a mob Deep. It's for a mob deep, 539 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: there wouldn't be a component Oriega. So me personally, I 540 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: want to look at you, face to face, out of 541 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: man and man and tell you how much that not 542 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: only queens because when our queen's is limited, even though 543 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: queens we won the world. For that from queens, even 544 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: though even queens we won the world. But it's pretty funny. 545 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: I did hear that. I did hear ki me. I 546 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: had a condo around the corner from his from his 547 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: rich for twenty years. Got damn it, A ponder around 548 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: the truck, Got damn it. I'm not gonna lie. I 549 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: was just close to buying the condo next in his 550 00:30:52,400 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: building because it's it's cost effective, of course effective. But 551 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: you came one day I'm shooting a black money video. Yeah, 552 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: the most disrespectful record on my album. And I call 553 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: for al COO J to come through and l CUJ 554 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: comes through. My motherfucking so. I always love your music. No, no, 555 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: I always loved your music. I always felt your music. 556 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, what all of that you know? 557 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean you introduced the world to the Neptuns and 558 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: all that. I mean you put that you know you 559 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: po But I met for real because of you. I 560 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: can't shouldn't meant for real. And that's when I did 561 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: love you better than I ended up ultimately doing, love 562 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: you better than Americas. But you know you, You've done 563 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: a lot. You know you're an important person what we're doing. 564 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: That's why the podcast is so successful. I've been watching it, 565 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: but watching episodes and with CBS and me and e 566 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 1: fam we got some deals that bring you. I got 567 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: to cover, I gotta got cover. That got a lot 568 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah, yeah, I got something. And the lip 569 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: Sync Battle. Yeah, was that your idea or what that 570 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: was somebody else? Well, the idea came from John Krasinski 571 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: and Steve Merchant and they brought it, you know through 572 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: I don't know who they are, but they sound ready 573 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: now it came to us and uh, basically you know, 574 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: but I owned the format along with my partners, and 575 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: we've sold a format and over a hundred fifty countries 576 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: around the world, and we have like a partnership with 577 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: like Carnival Cruises, and uh, you know, the app is 578 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: starting to grow now and really doing well, the lip 579 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: Sync Battle app, and uh, I mean the show and 580 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: we've also, um, we have different versions of the show 581 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: around the world. So like in Tiland, it's like a 582 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, would be a tie host doing the lip Battle, 583 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: and we just did like in Ukraine, and we did 584 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: a deal in Russia, and we did a deal you 585 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: know in China. We just did a big deal in 586 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: China for for lip Sync Battle. So that thing is 587 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: global and then you know what people don't know it's 588 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: with like n C I s l A also have 589 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: a vested interest in the show. I'm not just an 590 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: actor on the show. I haven't. That's the guy and 591 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: and that's in two hundred countries around the world as well. 592 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's it's you know, 593 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: it's really going on. It's going on. Listen. I'm not 594 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: gonna lie. When I looked at hip hop, right, I 595 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: was tired of hip hop. I was just tired. Like 596 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I loved it, I still want to make it. 597 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't God bless her dad. After Chris Lidy died, 598 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't actually attack it the way I wanted to 599 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: attack it. So I said, let me just think of 600 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: something else. And all I did was look at you. 601 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: I looked at you and said, what the fund is 602 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: l doing? L Because are you in shape? I'm not. 603 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't in shape. Yeah, you said you're good. Now 604 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: you're a little I'm a little. Okay, you look like 605 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: you know you're doing handstead something. Watch your Instagram Buttram 606 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: kill me. But I and I said, what can I 607 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: do to do something else other than the hip hop? 608 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: Because music just gets boring even if you're making money. 609 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: Music is just just boring now. But you know what, 610 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I don't. I don't feel 611 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: that way. I think my thing is I just never 612 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: limit myself. And like I said, if you have more 613 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: than one talent, you should utilize them all. You know 614 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, if you're a Dion Sanders and 615 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: you can play baseball and football, play both. Um, you know, 616 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: music is not off the table for me. You know, 617 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that I'll never make another record. 618 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: It's just right now, you're gonna make another record right well, 619 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: right now, my priority is entertaining. We're trying to great 620 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: business movie, great movie. I'm sorry, certain its beautiful. So 621 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this entertaining. But you know, you gotta 622 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: you gotta try different things. You gotta you know, you 623 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: gotta move, you gotta you know what I'm saying, Like 624 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: make things happen and not be like afraid to like 625 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: fall back for a second. Like I'm not afraid, Like 626 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: I don't feel like you know, if I if I 627 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: make a song, it'll be like I never left because 628 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: after the record go off because into deep Yeah this movie, 629 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, that was yeah, that was just stuck a 630 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: poll stick up a nigger. Yeah, eight ball back pocket. 631 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know aly eight ball too. I just didn't sick. 632 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I didn't know. You want to you went, 633 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: you went in. You do. Don't worry. I don't worry 634 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: the videos, you know, the movies and so out. Yeah, 635 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: it's all when it comes to the movies, I don't 636 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: limit myself with the characters, whatever role it is. You know, Um, 637 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm not above any roller, below any rollers. If if 638 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: I respond to the role and I feel like it's 639 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: something good, I'll do it. Right now, I'm playing Sam 640 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: Hanno and nciss Angeles is a lot of fun. We're 641 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: going into next season. Didn't you put out your gun? 642 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: Very professional that But let me turn I can tell 643 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: you learn now he's talking about get hitting them at all, 644 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I went down to like Camp Penalton 645 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: and train with like the Marines and the Special Apps guys, 646 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: the Sailors down. Um, you know, hung out with a 647 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: master gunner restager from the Marines who told me a 648 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: lot of I went to swat school. You know it 649 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: did a lot of let's go back to yeah, yeah, yeah, 650 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: he got no he stuck. He's sticking again. Yeah, well 651 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: yeah that sucked me up. And we're like, yeah, knew you. 652 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: I was good. What would down like? God, I'm like, 653 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: oh my god. He was like, yeah, that's a brutal scene. 654 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: And if you haven't seen it too deep go check 655 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: it out. It's a brutal scene. Is a brutal scene. Yeah. 656 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: But going back to music real quick, you're one of 657 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: the first New York artists to kind of be bi 658 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: coastal when you worked with poo L A Posse and 659 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: on them. How did that come about? Um? Basically what 660 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: happened was, you know at that time, you know, after 661 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: my first album, Rick Rubin left Jeff Champ and uh, 662 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: we we're trying to figure out what my next move 663 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: was gonna do be because he produced my first album, 664 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: the whole first album. Yeah, yeah, we did the whole 665 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: first album together. Um it was his first album to 666 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: first full album, and um, so after that and he 667 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: can't just say that nothing make no. Yeah, so after that, 668 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: Volt cameras, you gotta start flapping to clapping too, I understand, 669 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: but volt cameras, you gotta clap to it. I'm sorry, 670 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: youtubeat guy all right, terrible terrible side. So now so 671 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, I went and Russell had 672 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: heard you know, the L A Posse because they had 673 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,479 Speaker 1: made some records that he felt was in the zone 674 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: to introduced me to him. I met Bob kat Um, 675 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: big up to Bob, you know from L A l 676 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: As you know l ast Red Wasn't wasn't the radio 677 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 1: who myn My first album was Radio. My first song 678 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: was I Need to Beat. My first song came out 679 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: four it was I need to Beat. Then I had 680 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: I was born in seventy seven. YEA, well, thank you 681 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: giving my child. Then the second one came out like 682 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: eighty five. The album came out like eighty five, and 683 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: then it went from there. But the second album came 684 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: out around eighty seven. But the first albums on that jam. 685 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: It was on Yes This is c Rock. It's Yours 686 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: was on Death Jam Productions. It was an imprint on 687 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: Street on Party Times Party Time Records, and was Death 688 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: Jam Productions. And and Rick was having problems. Him and 689 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: Russell weapon problems getting the money from Party Time for 690 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: the Yours record, so they decided to start their own label. 691 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: And and I was the flagship artists, and we made 692 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: the first alum and I actually you know, first I 693 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: know I owned a piece of death Jam as well, 694 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: and I sold it. Yeah yeah, I sold it back 695 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: to them. Yeah we didn't know that. Yeah. But the 696 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: first record was radio radio on Rock the Bell's Radio. 697 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: All of that was on first record. Yeah, and they 698 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: wentn't got to deal with when when you got to 699 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: deal with no, no, no, CBS, CBS Yeah, Columbius, we 700 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: got CBS right here in the CBS. Yeah. Yeah, you 701 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: know queens Nick is getting money with CBS. Yeah, it certainly. 702 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: Can you put me there's This is what I want. 703 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: I want you to describe back in the days, because 704 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: it was so rough walking down Jamaica as I mean, 705 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, people think it's rough walking up to 706 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: make an app and two thousand and seventeen, they have 707 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: no idea what it was in the eighties and the mzingies. 708 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: Can you describe? It was like every any piece of 709 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: clothing that you had on that was moldy, moldy or 710 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: remotely valuable was like asking people to rob you. Like 711 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: like if you have to be at gazelles or you 712 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: won't buy somebody your gazelles would say to them, excuse me. 713 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: It was like the gazelles. We're talking. If you have 714 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: seemed skinning, be like, hey, I don't seen this thing. 715 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: Come up and get me rock please, he said, come 716 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: on please. It was crazy. It was crazy and listen 717 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: crazy described to people. Listen, let me describe to the 718 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: rule because one day Nas has told me. He said, 719 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: one day, me and Nas just kicking it, be talking 720 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: and now I said, he came to Left Wrack and 721 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: he was like, he came to Left Frack. He was like, 722 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: I can't believe the amount of respect that nobody don't 723 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: bother you here. And I was like, my hud, he said, 724 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: do you imagine what al Who went through in those days? 725 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: Mind you, we had no facts. But remember remember you know, 726 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: you know I was hanging with you know, the guys 727 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: I was hanging with. The guy isn't really having a 728 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: lot of problems, like you knows, throw through color. I 729 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: never heard your room, right, Yeah, you know, you know 730 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: we told you was I was. I was with guys 731 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: that were so official and thorough in the street that 732 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I mean, I wasn't having those issues, 733 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, and um, and I wasn't looking for me 734 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: because you know what I've learned, I don't. I never, 735 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: I never in my life have tried to be a 736 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: tough guy. And I never hung around gangsters and tried 737 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: to act like I was one, because that's how you 738 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: get yourself in trouble. Just be who you are. Just 739 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: be yourself, you know what I mean. And so I 740 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: never had a lot of issues. I had a few fights, 741 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: and you know, I grew up fighting, you know, I wasn't, 742 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: you know, having shootouts. We could tell you you fight, 743 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: you know a couple of people. You know. I had 744 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: a dumb moments. I'll tell you a funny story when 745 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: I was a little kid, just a little mischief. So 746 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: when I was a little kid, you know, when it 747 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: was snow outside, we decided it was a good idea, 748 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, take like nana to take rocks and send 749 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: the blocks and cover them with snow and then throw 750 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: them at cars like I don't ask me while the 751 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: right was breaking, you know what. So one day, one day, 752 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean my grandmother's yard, not to throw a goddamn 753 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: big gass rock with snow around it, because you know 754 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: the car's not gonna stop. They say, Oh, look at 755 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: the little kids with snowballs, and then like stright, why 756 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: didn't you know we were? So we was in there 757 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: week A man came around the corner and I was 758 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: looking over there, and I've seen the window rolling town 759 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: like that. All I see was little flashing lights. You 760 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: always running. I hate behind a snow mount. Did you 761 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: hear me? Snowmas snowman bullets were fun the joint about 762 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: snow mound. And then I like ran fell down another basement. Yea, yeah, 763 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: he was flashing lights. Was the gun going on? You 764 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Flashing lights? The lights? And I 765 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: like rent and you know how the when he's the 766 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: basement windows got that that, I don't know what you know, 767 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 1: it's like a you know, it's like a thing down 768 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: I think in the house for the so you can 769 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 1: open the basement window. So I found out he had 770 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: told my ankles up and all that. So I had 771 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: a little mischief in my life a little bit, but 772 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: for the most part, I stayed out of trouble, you 773 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'm sorry to bring this up, 774 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: but I have to bring it up. We all was 775 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: managed by violator management. We all was under the tutelagit 776 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a word, but you know 777 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: what I mean, it is of Chris. Lady, I asked 778 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: fifty cent this, I asked all violated artists when they 779 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: come on here, like how did it? Because it affected me? 780 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 1: But first of all, I love Chris deeply, and his 781 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: daughter Tiffany is a good difference to my my my kids, 782 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: and she's at the household the time, and uh, you 783 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: know she hangs with my wife and hangs with the 784 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: kids and all that. Um. First of all, Chris and 785 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: my relationship was a little different from probably yours and 786 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 1: fifties because Chris got in the business after me, so 787 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: we had a different You was already and yeah, I 788 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: was already, So you know, we had a different type 789 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: of relationship, you know. And um, you know, we were 790 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: friends and we were you know, I looked at you know, 791 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: we looked at each other's counterparts. And he managed me. 792 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: He did he made a lot of things for me. 793 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: But our relationship, you know, was, um, what you think, 794 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: what you think, Let's get X, let's get wild. Like 795 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 1: I remember when he was interning the Death Cham and 796 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But the thing I remember most about 797 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: Chris is that he was a really, really, really really 798 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: small guy, and he was a good dude, and he 799 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: wasn't soft like I remember Chris used to let me 800 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: in the tunnel when he was a bodyguard. At the tunnel. 801 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: Chris used to do security security and he would be outside. 802 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: I heard he was running the tunnel security. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 803 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: you know he was christ Christmas. Chris was. You know, 804 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: he may have been involved in the business aspects too. 805 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: But when I seen Chris, he had a bulletproof vessel 806 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: on outside the door. And I never liked Mr Smack. 807 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: Come on in, Yo, he said, you know, he's like 808 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: a good fellow. You know, he was a gamester. You know, Christmas, 809 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: he was a real guy. I'm glad I met him. 810 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: Later he was, Yo, I'm telling you, but I mean 811 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: all of you, all of the people you know, like 812 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: I'll tell you just to switch games for a minute. 813 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: Like Leo. The first time I met Leo. Leo was 814 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: a promoter in l A And when I met him, 815 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: he came to pick me up from the airport because 816 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: I had a show where he was a promoter. Promoter 817 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: when a loss like Los Angeles and the driver's door 818 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: didn't open, I mean the passenger door and open you 819 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 1: had to get in the car through the driver side, 820 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: both of us, and we drove and he was telling 821 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: me how we're gonna change hip hop. And let me 822 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: tell you something. He was prophetic though, because everything he 823 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: talked about came true. But he was very much you know, 824 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this was a guy that was walking around 825 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: with you know, no lasers and the sneakers, you know, 826 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: behind chasing behind jam as the jam joining his mouth, 827 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like he was a real 828 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: like Like he wasn't this the corporate titan that he 829 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: ultimately became. But I always had respect for him because 830 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: Leo is the one who made the deal. C I 831 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: owned my whole catalog. You still from the beginning I 832 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: own my catalg I didn't, but I owned it ultimately 833 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: with my deal. You know, when I got to a 834 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: certain position with def Jam, I did a deal where 835 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: I owned my catalog. Right. Leo is the one that 836 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: did that deal. So I have to always respect Leo 837 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: for that because you know, he didn't have to do it. 838 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: They were trying to figure out how to make a 839 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: deal that was rich enough for me to want to stay, 840 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: and you know, at the same time, they wanted to 841 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: come up to a certain number, but not to go 842 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: beyond that. So you know, I said, well, you know, 843 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: give a catalog, and I said, okay, we worked that 844 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: out and we got the catalog. So def jam has 845 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: a really small interest in my catalog. I own it. 846 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: And so when you hear ll Cool Jason Mamas all 847 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: that life, when you ll Ma Callie Mama, yeah, yeah, 848 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: Mama said yeah. So when you hear my my records 849 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: and movies and on TV and stuff, I've licensed that. 850 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, anytime you hear ll cool j Song, LLL 851 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: has licensed it. That's another goal I'm gonna take out 852 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, you know, but let me tell you so, 853 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: let me be, let me be transparent. The reason the 854 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: reason I'm sharing this is because I don't think the 855 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: hip hop community understands a lot of the things that 856 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, I've been doing in my career. I think 857 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: that it's been kind of a mystery. And I never 858 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 1: was a guy that like as my publicist to get 859 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: me in Forbes. I've never been the guy who really 860 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: um went out of his way to try to market 861 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: myself as smart. And I just never did that because 862 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: I came from over a pure place and just wanting 863 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 1: to rock the mic, you know, and it was never 864 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 1: like I give you another thing, like there was this 865 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: whole room of back in the days that ll cool J. 866 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: You know, he's upset because he didn't become the president 867 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: of Death Champ, which is can I can I just 868 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: say something like I can't even describe to you how 869 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: ultimately and utterly ridiculous that is. And let me sway 870 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: to you what why would look? I'm I'm I wanted 871 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: you to be there. Do Michael Jackson want to be 872 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,879 Speaker 1: the president of Motown? Like I ain't confirmed, I don't 873 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: relate to Michael. I didn't I want I never wanted that. 874 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to make music. See people wanted to get 875 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: a budget from you. But the thing is, the thing 876 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: is I just always I just wanted to be an artist, Mari, 877 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: Like I'm not ashamed of being a rapper, like I don't. 878 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: I don't need to. I don't need to convince you 879 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: that I'm more than a rapper, Like I'm okay with that. 880 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: So when that's all I wanted, All I want to 881 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: do is be a rapper and be the best rapper, 882 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: Like that's what I grew up wanting to do. So, 883 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean, actually something right as a rapper, when you 884 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 1: hear the stories like the Little Wayne right, where Little 885 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: Wayne is getting maybe taking advantage of we don't really know, 886 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: we already know what we see. There's nothing, you know what, 887 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. There's there's nothing that Little 888 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: Wayne did wrong, and I'll tell you. I'll tell you why, 889 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: because like I told you, I owned my catalog and 890 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: I told you that ultimately I got a great deal. 891 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: But you know what, if Russell was the worst piece 892 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 1: person in the world, he could have easily taken advantage 893 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: of me. He could have easily gave me one of 894 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: those boso deals that you hear nightmares about. But you 895 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: know what, Russell wasn't that kind of guy. You know 896 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, you know, early on we 897 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: did my publishing fifty fifty. Ultimately I got all my 898 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: publishing back, of course, but early on it was like that. 899 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: But even then with my first contract, he only went 900 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: fifty fifty. He didn't take it all. So so a 901 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: lot of that. A lot of times when you hear 902 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: about guys with bad deals, that says more about the 903 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 1: executives that they were dealing with than the actual artists. 904 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: It's not about them being dumb, it's not about them 905 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: being them because you know what, some guys, I'll give 906 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: them credit, like some of the guys, you know, like 907 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: I told you, I hung around a lot of street guys, 908 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: but I wasn't That's not who I was, right, I 909 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 1: wasn't a hustler personally. Those were just my friends. But 910 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: so some guys who are actually hustlers and hustlers and 911 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: actually had that life, they get to benefit from all 912 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: the experiences that they had hustling, so when they come 913 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: into the game, they're able to make better deals earlier. 914 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: But some of us, because we weren't hustlism because we 915 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: didn't experience, you know, getting cheated and screwed and scammed. 916 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: We didn't. We were just innocent kids rapping. We may 917 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: have been from a rough community, but were really just 918 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: innocent kids who love the rhyme. And so when you 919 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: go in and you sign your deal, it's not the 920 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: greatest deal in the world because you're just excited to 921 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: be there. Then you don't have that maturity and that 922 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,320 Speaker 1: grit and that you know, that grizzle that allows you 923 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: to you know, make a better deal early so some 924 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: of these guys did benefit. There were benefits for some 925 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 1: of them. Some benefited, something didn't. But I don't blame 926 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: any of these younger artists. You know. Now, what I 927 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: would say is that now the internet, because the Internet 928 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: wasn't what it was, Well, there's access to information. You 929 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: have information out there, so you gotta want the information. 930 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: You gotta want to make a great deal. Do you 931 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: want to make a great deal? Are you patient? Do 932 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: you have the balls to say no? Because are you 933 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: comfortable saying no? That was a crazy thing is when 934 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: when Death Jam we got their self together, I asked 935 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 1: them like bringing back l and they never asked my question. 936 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: Well they do, but but you know, to be to 937 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: be fair, your death Jam is Leo Kevin Russell Simmons. 938 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 1: I'm asking what it is is that you know? Look, 939 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, when you're young and you don't know how 940 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,839 Speaker 1: to play the political game, you rub, you can rub 941 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: people the wrong way like you are the deaf Jam. 942 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: But but you don't rub nobody the wrong No, no, no, 943 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: But you can't like what I'm saying, sickly is that 944 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: man like you know, nobody's perfect. Man, I don't you know, 945 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't begrudge those guys nothing, because you know the 946 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: resistance that I you know, you know, pressure makes diamonds, man, 947 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: you know it could bust Pipce, but it makes diamonds. 948 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: So the resistance that that I felt and the little 949 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: things that they did just encourage me to go out 950 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: there and do something greater, you know what I'm saying, 951 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: and just do something and being master. Oh now, if 952 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,399 Speaker 1: I drink another bottle of Roads, you know we might fly. 953 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, yo, I have never been a 954 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 1: man more than I was the man when I had 955 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,959 Speaker 1: you come to my hood. Now, I had you listen 956 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: this day. I had camera come to my hood. I 957 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 1: had Jim Jones come to my hood. I had run 958 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: DMC come to my hood. I had everybody come to 959 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: my hood. But the one thing that everybody said was like, 960 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,879 Speaker 1: we're not going inside. L was the only person said 961 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm going inside. And I'm looking at you like you 962 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: said you said, I'm want you. I'm good now. I 963 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: love my people, But I still feel like you don't 964 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 1: feel like you don't really realize. No, no, let me 965 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 1: give you a project. I have to do it. I 966 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: still don't feel like you realized how much that you 967 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: meant to people in Queens. Now, if it's my partner, 968 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: he's from Miami, he's born in l A. He might 969 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: have a whole totally different thing. But for us in Queens, 970 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: there was no other nigga that we wanted to be. 971 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean, nas, I mean, I remember one time me 972 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: and Fat Joe we had an hour and a half 973 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 1: conversation or who means more to him? L L to 974 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 1: him or to me? I feel like gonna be that's 975 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: the first time's gonna fight. I said, Fat, Oh, you 976 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: can't claim al you're from the Brons. I gotta stop love. 977 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 1: In fact, Joe was like, what my default? You don't 978 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 1: love him as much as I love him my default? 979 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: And he just didn't like I'm talking about we seriously arguing. 980 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: I found that this argument happening six times. That's crazy 981 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: and it's a blessing man. But that's that's how real 982 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: hip hop. This is what drink Champs is about. I 983 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: don't know if you know a drink Champs is about 984 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: giving the stars flowers when they could smell them, and 985 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: give them trees when they could inhale them. Yeah. Yeah, 986 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: because every other genre, every other music when these people 987 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 1: become icons, the classics, they support them. Why doesn't hip 988 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: hop have that platform? Well, you know, no, you don't 989 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: have this. You're doing it. You don't get smart on 990 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: me smart you're drinking drinking, y'all listen. L L koo 991 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: J came a left rack City and I'm gonna be honest. 992 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed because I was like, I was like, yo, 993 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 1: you know when you need to walk through, you walk through. 994 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: I was like, I hope a crackhead and Pete and 995 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 1: it was mad and I'm looking at him. I'm like, 996 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: this Nick is gonna leave. Don't know, Well, he didn't 997 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: smell the bead, he didn't see the bess that I 998 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:48,319 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. But not only that, You're 999 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: not only filmed the video, you actually came and chilled 1000 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 1: in Capone's van Fantastic and we started watching the remember, 1001 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: and you actually, like people got to really understand how 1002 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,800 Speaker 1: cool because you know why we put you on a 1003 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: pedestal in Queens and we should you deserve that pedestal 1004 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 1: and you should stay in that pedestal. But at the 1005 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: same time, people should understand how cool you are, how 1006 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: down the earth you are, how how you your say anybody? 1007 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: You know what, man, even no matter what I'm doing 1008 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: in my life. You know, I always tell people you know, 1009 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm in Hollywood, but I never went Hollywood. You know 1010 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And um, you know, keep talking. Okay, 1011 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm like whatever, you know, to take the cameras he's taking. Um, 1012 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 1: So you know that was the thing. You know, this 1013 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: is a funny moment, right, but you know that was 1014 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 1: the thing. You know, that was the thing for me. 1015 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Whatever happened to creative man, 1016 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: Um'll take the opportunity here now, ja ja, Phil Potter 1017 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: is my man, you know what I'm saying. Um, we 1018 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 1: just I just felt like creatively I wanted to stretch 1019 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: a little bit and try some new things. But that 1020 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: he's always my friend. He's still my friend. We speak 1021 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: UM and he does like Tom join up, he does 1022 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: different cruise, he does different parties. You know what I'm saying. 1023 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: He's still working. Yeah, yeah, he's still working. You know. 1024 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: But I've been using z Trip you know what I mean. 1025 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: Z Tripp has been you know, DJ. Z Trip has 1026 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:27,439 Speaker 1: been DJ and for me for Damn featuring Man. Yeah, 1027 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,480 Speaker 1: that was crazy. Remind me the five heartbeats and some ship. 1028 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 1: But now he's good. I'm looking with z trip for 1029 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: about almost ten years. Yeah, yeah, that's my men. Know 1030 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's been like a vibe. Listen, I'm 1031 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna be honest. When you walk through my hut and 1032 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: come right back on and like that, that's that's how happens. 1033 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna lie. I watched my my nephew 1034 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 1: was here. You gotta relax. I was talking about you 1035 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:19,919 Speaker 1: in theory, your homie in the video. I was talking 1036 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: about your theory. I didn't know you, but it meant 1037 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: so much to our hood. It means so much of 1038 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 1: our neighborhood when you came out. Because we've been to Farmers. 1039 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 1: We understand what Farmers is, the red block, the red, 1040 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: black and green rock, how crazy Farmer's Boulevard is like 1041 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: from back then, I see a lot of people don't 1042 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 1: like Farmers is almost gentrified now almost a little bit. 1043 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: Got a whole fools. You gotta hope. Listen. Now they 1044 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 1: still got to you know, na, hell, no old fools 1045 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: over there. But it ain't it once you got a 1046 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 1: whole fool. I don't think it's a whole fools over there. 1047 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 1: I feel like places you're gonna juice the ball. You 1048 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: gotta juice spats over now that Jamaicans is running it. 1049 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: That was Maican, always Jamaicans and then a dress spot 1050 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: now queens at not Farmers ain't gentrified, but you know 1051 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful community. It may not people may have 1052 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 1: may not have a lot of a lot of money, 1053 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: but they got a lot of dignity and they want 1054 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: to you know, they want to make something better for 1055 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: their families and they want to have a life, you 1056 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And that you've got a mountain 1057 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: pot of people. You got Haitians, you got Jamaicans, you 1058 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: got Dominicans, you got you know, people you know from 1059 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: all different you know, just like all in that community. 1060 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful I think it's a beautiful place. You 1061 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: know so well, my friend's staff staff is from Farmers, right, Okay, 1062 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: can we ask him if there's a whole fools because 1063 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm really not sure. No, he's crazy, he's taking I 1064 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: can't even talk, but I love him. I went to 1065 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: Google sto, I went to barn didn't go to like 1066 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: people was like, oh my god, why are you going in, 1067 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: but steppers from farmers boulavar So. I used to go 1068 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: to farmer's bulbar. I used to sit on the brock. 1069 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: I just sit on it as a chap. Oh that's crazy. 1070 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 1: But this then then you came out and I was like, 1071 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, I got killed. Yeah, that area now 1072 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: it's you know that area has been so because definitely 1073 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: it's like all the any other No, no, no, Brosten, 1074 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. When Irish one shot them on 1075 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: non sent five shots would listen. I would take fifty, 1076 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: took ninety, took more than that. How actually take five? Okay, 1077 01:01:47,560 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 1: take fifty took shots is crazy at the I mean 1078 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 1: thank you out together the way I want to make 1079 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 1: you because he got up to fit. That's my man, 1080 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 1: that's my man. But I don't drink though, I don't 1081 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: drink like that. Now I drink occasionally, but now I 1082 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 1: don't drink like that occasions with you like drink champs. 1083 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm in a podcast called drink Chips. How can I 1084 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 1: sit here and drink and drink? An let me use 1085 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 1: some more champagne. You want to think good? I'm good 1086 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: to take a shot already we had to pay a 1087 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 1: press of talking, ready to drink the house. We had carols. 1088 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: We had had a million ties. No caras had a 1089 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: million time. I can't lie if hannabis had a million 1090 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: caress one man go back to cannabis because I just 1091 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 1: want I just want you to. I just want you 1092 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 1: to understand how you destroyed the man's career. But it 1093 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: was dope. I mean, but he can't him out at 1094 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 1: the Barclay Center when I did the concert. But he's 1095 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: already bro. But put my arm around him and brought 1096 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: him out there. I did. I feel like it was 1097 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 1: too late. You crushed him too late late, baby. But 1098 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: in your mind, in your mind, you said, I gotta 1099 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: cross this little nigg But why did you do that? 1100 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 1: Because you know why defending myself because he was he 1101 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 1: was he was like computer literate at this time when 1102 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 1: nobody else he was the only nigger righting rounds on 1103 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: a computer. And I had a session with him and 1104 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: I said, what is he doing? He wrote around on 1105 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: I didn't like it pre personally, but you you acted 1106 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: on that. You ain't like it. HI five for being patty. 1107 01:03:55,480 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Let's make some yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got 1108 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 1: some petty pills I'll take a petty pill every now. 1109 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: Ike petty pill. You're taking a petty pill every now 1110 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 1: and the take a petty pill every day, not every day. 1111 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't take it every day, you know, I try 1112 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 1: to do my you know, they h they go lower. 1113 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 1: I go and the petty bills just in case. It's 1114 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 1: definitely a little bit to go out with that. I'm 1115 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: a thought to cloudy behind because I wish I wis 1116 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 1: showing me the best though, you know, I don't want 1117 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 1: to see anybody have it exactly what I'm saying, because 1118 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, some people, they don't understand that when you 1119 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: crush the person career like, you actually crush their life. 1120 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Do you are you ever like? Because you know, Komo 1121 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 1: d has never had a hit record since you you 1122 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: slaughtered him? White white white, white white white. What do 1123 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Let's you never had to hit record after you dissed him. 1124 01:04:52,600 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm just doing that. Yeah, that's a Now you know, man, listen, 1125 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: man his decisions. You gotta make your own decisions. He 1126 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 1: gotta make decisions decisions. You know, you get you know, 1127 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: you get to the crossroads. You gotta pick right or left. 1128 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: Now you cross these people career, can you say something 1129 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:20,919 Speaker 1: nice for them. No, no, nothing, not nice, but say 1130 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 1: something the reason why? Because why did I do what 1131 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 1: I did? Very simple? Please, I'm making me I'm making 1132 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 1: very easy for you. My thing is this, you know, 1133 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 1: this was my feeling. My feeling is, you know, I 1134 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: have a fan base. I have people that you know, 1135 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: look to me and enjoy my music and celebrate my art. 1136 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 1: If you come out talking about you know, me in 1137 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: the fire way and trying to undermine me, you're trying 1138 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: to get in my pocket and you're stepping on my 1139 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 1: toes and you're in the way, and I gotta get 1140 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: you out of the way immediately. And that's why that 1141 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: was my thinking on And Mama said, not you out 1142 01:05:54,960 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 1: at a Minimumum, listen, listen makes dammit, I could be 1143 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: your story. I'm so sorry. I was. That was it. 1144 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 1: That was and and and then but Cannabis, I just 1145 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 1: felt like no, because you know what, I don't mean. 1146 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 1: I noticed my nephew relaxed, Relax. Why are you having me? 1147 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask ask some song already you have 1148 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 1: to fight it song with Jamie Fox like that. Any 1149 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 1: given Sunday, I've seen that, I've seen that movie yesterday. 1150 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why. This is why God is good. 1151 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't sleep because you know why I 1152 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 1: still listen Petty Pills, just keep you up. I can't 1153 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: s Petty, I can't sleep. Let me tell you, let 1154 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 1: me tell you. Listen when when now my interview an artist, 1155 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I want to give them the most respect ever, because 1156 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 1: because hip hop should be a celebration. I sat down 1157 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 1: with Leo Colins the other day and he said, the 1158 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 1: reason why you're winning because this is going to be 1159 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, you are actually celebrating it. It's don't looking 1160 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 1: at I'm looking right. And then again in Sundays on 1161 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: my TV, so I look at it and in mind you, 1162 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 1: I forgot I had did like two or three songs 1163 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 1: for it. So I'm like, oh, my visions business. But 1164 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: then I'm looking and I'm like damn. And then when 1165 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 1: you and um Jamie Fox actually interacted and me hearing 1166 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 1: the room was I'm actually looking at it like this 1167 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: is great cinema. This is really great cinema, Like this 1168 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 1: is actually now I'll tell you what happened, tell us 1169 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 1: what happened. We don't know what really happened. You know 1170 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 1: the real story is that I am you know when 1171 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 1: we were doing the scene. You know, I think you know, Jamie, 1172 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 1: although he was experienced to someone, he was still a 1173 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 1: little green. I wasn't quite as green, but I was 1174 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 1: green too, and you know, you know what I mean 1175 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 1: and experience, you know what I'm saying. So hum we 1176 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 1: were doing the scene, I was being aggressive one. I 1177 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 1: was like, yo, you gotta, but this is character to character. 1178 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you gotta, you know, and I'm seeing 1179 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 1: that we talking about or he did something like that. 1180 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 1: I did the huddle after and I'm like, yo, you gotta, 1181 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 1: and I'm slapping the shoulders and this and that and 1182 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, okay, but he's got equipment on. It's 1183 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:50,720 Speaker 1: not like you know, like you know, he's got a 1184 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,200 Speaker 1: quick it on. You know, yo yo yo. So he 1185 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: got up setting and he's like, yo, you know me 1186 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: so rough with me. So I was like, you know, 1187 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 1: that didn't compute. So I don't know. So we did 1188 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 1: another take and I was rough with him again, and 1189 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 1: then you know, I don't know why, but you know, 1190 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 1: he thought it was a good idea to punch me 1191 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: in my face. Not in the script. No, it wasn't 1192 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 1: the script. No, this wasn't a scripting. No, no, I'm 1193 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: keeping hunting with you. You want me to keep it, 1194 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 1: hunt it, keep it, I'm gonnaunch. He punched me in 1195 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 1: my face, so I looked at him. After he pushed 1196 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: me on face, I said, what do you do that? 1197 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,560 Speaker 1: You looked that up pushed me in the face, and 1198 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 1: I looked at him. I slf I would describe to see. 1199 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 1: So I said, I feel like L was like that. 1200 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 1: I fething like that. Not quite. I looked that. I 1201 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 1: was a little tight. I was tight, you know, I 1202 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,479 Speaker 1: was giving him tight. I was tight. I was getting him. 1203 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,680 Speaker 1: So I'm like, looked at him. I said, what did 1204 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 1: you do that? And he said, um, look and he 1205 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,680 Speaker 1: like was turned to the side, his helmet on. He 1206 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 1: had his helmet on. He was turned to the side. 1207 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,920 Speaker 1: He said, I told you before don't put your hands 1208 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: on me. Period. So yo. When he said that, my 1209 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 1: left hand grabbed the face mask and as I was 1210 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,559 Speaker 1: pulling his helmet off, my right hand was punching his ship, 1211 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, like you know what. And then you know 1212 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,479 Speaker 1: he's reading there and I was like, I thought he's 1213 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:42,640 Speaker 1: faking because he sleeps. Then the whole team jumped on me, right, 1214 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,599 Speaker 1: so they wrestled me down. You know, the whole team 1215 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:50,760 Speaker 1: are so so so I'm under the huddle and I'm 1216 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, and then somebody tries to reach in 1217 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,640 Speaker 1: and like give me a little eye. Gal, somebody did 1218 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,560 Speaker 1: that right, so oh yeah that was but not a 1219 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,760 Speaker 1: good idea because I turned my head to the side 1220 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 1: and he caught us caught his hand. He's like, that 1221 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,599 Speaker 1: doesn't given the whole m m A thing do speak 1222 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 1: a Yeah, you're gonna give me the leg lock. I'm 1223 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 1: biting your assick all that leg lock shit, I'm gonna 1224 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,680 Speaker 1: bite to throw it off me like we're gon. We 1225 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 1: got to get it in like this. The rule is 1226 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:27,320 Speaker 1: out to the side, and he pulled his hand off 1227 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 1: the thing and then he finally broke it up. And 1228 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 1: then and then but but since then, me and Jamie 1229 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 1: got cool and we have laughed about it. We have 1230 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,200 Speaker 1: laughed about it. We made songs together like cool. So 1231 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't mind telling the story now. But you know 1232 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 1: what it is, it's just you know, but you know, 1233 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 1: Oliver is crazy. Oliver Stone. He had Yeah, he was 1234 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: the rest actually the guy that's actually the sports announcer 1235 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 1: in any given something. He's actually, yes, that's in there 1236 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 1: and I'm wrote He's like, he's who wrote scarf Fakes, 1237 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 1: so tune. You know, he is amazing. So you know, 1238 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: it was just a funny time, you know what I'm saying. 1239 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 1: But you know that was the thing. You know, it's 1240 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 1: just you know, Jamie, you know, he just got off, 1241 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, he was he was on this Willie Beamon 1242 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 1: and I couldn't take it and all that. But like, 1243 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know, because you know, you know, and 1244 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 1: under the right circumstances, you might let a punch slide. 1245 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 1: You might. I mean, you know, it's not impossible. Now, 1246 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 1: everybody's not a straight murderer all the time. Dude hits you. 1247 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,120 Speaker 1: Under the right circumstances, you'd be like if he would 1248 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,560 Speaker 1: have said to me, like you know, you know, I 1249 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 1: just I would have been lying. You know, I don't 1250 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 1: even know if I could took it. Then I take 1251 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 1: that back, Yeah I could have took it. I couldn't 1252 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,200 Speaker 1: take I couldn't handle because you didn't handle it. You 1253 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 1: drove me insane. I would have been waking up in 1254 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the middle of the night just like he played me, 1255 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,200 Speaker 1: like I just couldn't take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1256 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 1: So because you even beat niggas up. But who broke 1257 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 1: in your house? The niggas that broke in your house, 1258 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 1: you pounding them out? Yeah, I don't want to. That's 1259 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 1: that's a rough one. Note se because the difference with 1260 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 1: that is that that wasn't funny because I was terrified. 1261 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,680 Speaker 1: Oh worry, we'll half court. I mean, listen, man, if 1262 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: it's one in the morning, you know, and you come 1263 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 1: down from tell you your segways on the questions. You're 1264 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 1: very smooth, and it's very attractive. It's very smooth and subtle. 1265 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 1: It's a nice thing you're doing because you hook a scene, 1266 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 1: you get it nice, your baby, you set it out, 1267 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 1: you see it out, and the nice thing. You know, 1268 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,679 Speaker 1: people are talking this very jelly. That's good. That's good. 1269 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 1: That's good. Attorney, that's good. That's good. That's good. That's 1270 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:41,559 Speaker 1: good for me. That's im. Sorry, it's very smooth. I'm 1271 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 1: so sorry. It was amazing. It was like it was 1272 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 1: wonderful to watch, you know, because I was amazing. I 1273 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 1: was saying at me too, like but not when the 1274 01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,280 Speaker 1: dude broke in my house. And difference is that, you know, 1275 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 1: I have fights growing up, and we've all all of us. 1276 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody in this room had fights in the 1277 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 1: hood and different things you scraped or whatever, But but 1278 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: how many of us have really four or fire lives. 1279 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,479 Speaker 1: Maybe dudes in jail. You might get that feeling, you know, 1280 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 1: you did a big you feel like you're fighting for 1281 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 1: your life, fighting for your life, doesn't It's not the 1282 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 1: same funny feeling like fighting, like in the whole of 1283 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,479 Speaker 1: just you know, let's get let's get it, you know. 1284 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I'm like like, I'm really this 1285 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,600 Speaker 1: is for keeps, you know, I'm gonna get it in 1286 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:33,040 Speaker 1: like whatever. Only read it on TMZ. And so it 1287 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 1: was one in the morning, and uh, you know, the 1288 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 1: the alarm pad went off, but it's you know how 1289 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,599 Speaker 1: you have an alarm and like for those of who 1290 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 1: are have an alarmed, it will give you a minute 1291 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 1: to put your cold in it'll go and you have 1292 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 1: to turn your long off with mine just went. And 1293 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,160 Speaker 1: so I went to the keypad, small sleep and I'm 1294 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: looking at the key pad, I'm like, um, family room 1295 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,760 Speaker 1: And she said family, wasn't it. And so I'm thinking, 1296 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 1: what you mean when when its telling you with the 1297 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,640 Speaker 1: default is the default? I think that's the word, so, 1298 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, I'm in my drawers this 1299 01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,519 Speaker 1: one in the morning. So I just said, you know what, 1300 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, it's like my daughter sneaking and you know what, man, 1301 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,639 Speaker 1: I don't know she's coming out. I'm like, don him, yeah, 1302 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,160 Speaker 1: me going out of here and see what's happening. So 1303 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm just walking downstairs my drawers. I turned the law off, 1304 01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 1: walks downstairs, come down, and when I was going towards 1305 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 1: the kitchen, he's coming out of the kitchen and then 1306 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 1: we face the face and he's got all black on. 1307 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 1: He's got a big bag, he's got the man the 1308 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 1: lawn manson bid boots, you know, and he's looking at black. No, 1309 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,759 Speaker 1: he's white. He's a white dude. Are you you pounding 1310 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 1: him out? Me? Oh god, oh god, let's let's go there. 1311 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Oh god. I mean, you know, it was freaky. It 1312 01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,559 Speaker 1: was freaky. I think, you know, a stupid mother, stupid mother, 1313 01:15:55,880 --> 01:16:00,760 Speaker 1: stupid mother, mother, stupid mother, mother, stupid mother, a stupid mother, 1314 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:05,679 Speaker 1: stupid everything you get, every stupid mother you get, stop 1315 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 1: but everywhere. And I was like, you know, and then 1316 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,200 Speaker 1: I you know, I got him down, and then it 1317 01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 1: took the police about you skipped. You got him down, 1318 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 1: and now I don't want to but how we rock 1319 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 1: for a minute and get hit him with that cross 1320 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:24,720 Speaker 1: fit And when you got your drawers on, that's some 1321 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: real like, that's some real gorilla like man, I feel 1322 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,679 Speaker 1: like you like for the old school dudes. I feel 1323 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 1: like pent tech. You have my drawers all this ship, 1324 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, no socks. It's like I'm swinging a room. 1325 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 1: It's like it's made some mind. You want downstairs? You don't. 1326 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 1: You don't know, you yo yo, you and your drawers 1327 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 1: and everything. I don't care. You and your drawers in 1328 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 1: your house, going to get some juice, drinking out the juice, 1329 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 1: but like that nobody knows you drink out of the 1330 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 1: same one you give to all your guess you know, 1331 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 1: you know. And I just went down in their homes, 1332 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere and it was just like, you know, 1333 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 1: it was turning. He was like, I was like, and 1334 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,240 Speaker 1: it just you know, we just had the rock like 1335 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,599 Speaker 1: and then you know, and I'll tell you the deepest 1336 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 1: thing though, you know, this is the part that's not 1337 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,720 Speaker 1: fun even, is that there was a point when I 1338 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 1: had to decide whether or not he should stay alive. 1339 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 1: And him know, when I had him subdued, because I 1340 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 1: didn't know if he had anyone else with him, some dude. 1341 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 1: When I had him, when I had control of the situation, 1342 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,920 Speaker 1: when I had him on the ground, on his back, no, 1343 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,680 Speaker 1: on his stomach, finished and you know, laying there. I 1344 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,920 Speaker 1: had to make that decision because I didn't know if 1345 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,640 Speaker 1: he had someone upstairs. You know, I didn't know if 1346 01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,360 Speaker 1: people were coming from. So I had to think. I 1347 01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 1: didn't have rope available. I'm not planning like you know, 1348 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,599 Speaker 1: you know, lll Max and like I don't have rope 1349 01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 1: rope around the house. And just as after time, somebody, 1350 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,439 Speaker 1: you know, so I'm like looking at the do and 1351 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 1: I had to make a decision, you know, you know, 1352 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 1: and I credit I credit someone because she's like I 1353 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 1: just just just wait the guy she's calling the cops. 1354 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 1: She got on the nine on one. You know. I 1355 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 1: saw my daughter come down the steps and she's like like, 1356 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,760 Speaker 1: what the drawers are I'm like, this is freaky. And 1357 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 1: my youngest daughter slept through the whole thing. She had 1358 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,040 Speaker 1: a playmate, she had a playmate or a play date, 1359 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 1: and she had you know, somebody over the house. They 1360 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 1: slept through the whole thing, and then her parents was 1361 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,600 Speaker 1: the interesting thing. Her parents called the next like that 1362 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 1: morning when we woke up, there was like, oh you know, yeah, 1363 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 1: yeah she can stay. You know, it's no like he's 1364 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 1: got my daughter like to stay true. Just don't know, 1365 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 1: she said she. I'm like, yo, they must be having 1366 01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,360 Speaker 1: a really good time. Whenever they're doing, they really going 1367 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:06,200 Speaker 1: because okay, So that was it. Because again if people 1368 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,160 Speaker 1: telling me you gotta leave, and I gotta respect you 1369 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,320 Speaker 1: because I really love you. But before we get up 1370 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 1: out of here, I need to know about raised out. 1371 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,479 Speaker 1: She was raised represent Queen, She was raised represent represent Queen. 1372 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 1: She was raised in Brooken. What about it? I just 1373 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 1: needed you to break that down. I represent Queen because 1374 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 1: Angie Martinez forever, I thought it was about her. That's serious. 1375 01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 1: Not saying the record was about I'm saying she represented 1376 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:43,240 Speaker 1: that record. She always okay, I'm always I'm not saying that. 1377 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:52,519 Speaker 1: Let me get up like it's my first step, you 1378 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,680 Speaker 1: know what happened to life? I didn't mean like that, 1379 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,880 Speaker 1: but I mean like because she was oh yeah, yeah, no, no, 1380 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 1: it's just a record, like you know, that was it 1381 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 1: was what it was, you know, it was it was 1382 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 1: funny because you know that was a beat that Richard 1383 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 1: had let me hear. It's lights and blinking and don't 1384 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,040 Speaker 1: worry about it. Oh, I thought it was the roll, 1385 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,639 Speaker 1: you know, I just uh that beat. You know, Puffy 1386 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,240 Speaker 1: actually had wanted that beat for Biggie and uh, you 1387 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:27,240 Speaker 1: know he called me, I want my beat back, not 1388 01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 1: so much. I love you but and I'm no. But 1389 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, Pustle my man and Big understood. You know 1390 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was mine. It was what it was. 1391 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 1: It was just like you know, you know how producers 1392 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,719 Speaker 1: they play everybody beats and Biggie you know, he really, 1393 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,519 Speaker 1: you know, God bless him me. He rest in pieces 1394 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 1: of talented artists. Um, he really had his heart set 1395 01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 1: on that one, you know. But you know that's how 1396 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 1: it went. Who's your favorite producer? Producer? I'll getting the 1397 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 1: stupid or what it's say. I mean, it's some amazing 1398 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 1: producers out there, man, it would be. I mean, give 1399 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:08,040 Speaker 1: me one, I don't even want to say, man, give 1400 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,640 Speaker 1: me two, I don't even want to say. But yo, 1401 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,680 Speaker 1: it's some crazy producers. Three give me a topers, some 1402 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:22,840 Speaker 1: top three, top three? Okay? Um, I think uh, I 1403 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:28,680 Speaker 1: think Dre is serious. I agree, I think, Um, I 1404 01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 1: think Timberland is serious. And uh I didn't expect that one. Um. 1405 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,080 Speaker 1: You know it's been a while, but you know, Molly 1406 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,600 Speaker 1: was really really serious, you know what I mean in 1407 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 1: Primo and Premo. You know Premo serious really really I 1408 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:56,000 Speaker 1: wanted you to say, Molly Mam like yo, yo, listen man, 1409 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,800 Speaker 1: I you know I love all of these dudes. Man, 1410 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,479 Speaker 1: my son, my son is scared to walk through ye 1411 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 1: give them five, Give them five and you're revolt TV 1412 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 1: got damn because this is because this is because you 1413 01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 1: know your people are telling me you gotta go, and 1414 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 1: I gotta respect your people. Yeah. So, and you know what, 1415 01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,320 Speaker 1: because I respect you because if it wasn't for you 1416 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, it wouldn't beat me. And 1417 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,840 Speaker 1: I always respect. I respect you too. But I have 1418 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,120 Speaker 1: to ask because I feel like you brought this to 1419 01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:34,760 Speaker 1: hip hop, the go the greatest of all time. That 1420 01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 1: phrase came from you know, I got it. I got 1421 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,080 Speaker 1: it from Ali. You know what I'm saying. We didn't 1422 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 1: know that from you know Ali. You know what we're saying, 1423 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: the greatest all time. But I made it to go 1424 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,479 Speaker 1: all time. I think I probably have one of the 1425 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 1: greatest careers. You know, I think that on any given day, 1426 01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,360 Speaker 1: somebody can make a better song. But it's really about 1427 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 1: a career, um and it's about Yeah, you are the 1428 01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:12,080 Speaker 1: greatest all time. I appreciated. I feel like, you know, 1429 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:13,760 Speaker 1: a lot of times, a lot of times you gotta 1430 01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,840 Speaker 1: remember that. You know. I don't know, you know, but 1431 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,640 Speaker 1: if I got popped when Mama said knock you out, 1432 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 1: came out, maybe people would feel different about me. You 1433 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,559 Speaker 1: gotta relax because you want that, you know, you want 1434 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,719 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What I'm saying like if if something 1435 01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 1: had if I was you know, got shot or was 1436 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:33,120 Speaker 1: finished up or got done, if somebody didn't, No, I 1437 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 1: never received that at all. God No, I don't know 1438 01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,839 Speaker 1: if rock him would have went away. What I'm basically 1439 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:44,120 Speaker 1: saying is that that there is something magical that happens 1440 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 1: with great artists when they're not here and they get 1441 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:53,439 Speaker 1: you know, looked at, people grow to appreciate them. But 1442 01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,000 Speaker 1: it's magical happening with you right now. What you're being 1443 01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:01,639 Speaker 1: doing TV Blessed Lips, think Battle. We are all sitting 1444 01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 1: bast like everything's all moves. I make hip hop right now, 1445 01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,439 Speaker 1: You had to be hit. But but I wanted to 1446 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,559 Speaker 1: be here and you came here because you hip hop 1447 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,599 Speaker 1: and you and you hip hop. Thank you, thank you out. 1448 01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 1: But I just want you to know that if you 1449 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,040 Speaker 1: never heard it before, even though you brung this um 1450 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,479 Speaker 1: phrase to hip hop, you are the greatest of all time. 1451 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. And what's what's really? You? Alive? 1452 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 1: I am? I am? I'm truly I am. There's a 1453 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,920 Speaker 1: lot of people were saying it's all time recipes. That's true, 1454 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,000 Speaker 1: that's true. I rather recipe. I'd much rather be alive 1455 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:42,040 Speaker 1: in debating it. How about that one we're saying the 1456 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:47,599 Speaker 1: greatest live in them. You know, we're saying the greatest 1457 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:56,720 Speaker 1: all the time. Ain't of my role sting for it's 1458 01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,880 Speaker 1: time that makes it time. But listen out. We were 1459 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you out. I know you gotta go, We know 1460 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 1: you're on a schedule. We understand everything you do. This 1461 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,960 Speaker 1: is what we do, what our our culture, our society. 1462 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,559 Speaker 1: Excuse me, everybody up there and be quiet. Our society 1463 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,519 Speaker 1: is about giving our legends flowers when they can smell them, 1464 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,639 Speaker 1: and give them trees when they can in hell them. 1465 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,840 Speaker 1: And because you know why, our culture. When you get 1466 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,280 Speaker 1: the thirty years, you get to forty years, you get 1467 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,000 Speaker 1: to forty five or fifty years, they ride us off. 1468 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:32,519 Speaker 1: But meanwhile Motley Crew was out there touring meanwhile fucking 1469 01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:34,920 Speaker 1: rolling Stones. And I don't got no beef with them. 1470 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't give myself, but I want to continue to 1471 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,720 Speaker 1: support our culture. And you know, also what would help 1472 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,439 Speaker 1: that is, you know, if the veteran artists make better 1473 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:54,599 Speaker 1: decisions and if they value themselves. You know, I am humble, 1474 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 1: that's true, but I do know my value. No, we know, 1475 01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, and I understand who I am. I'm clear 1476 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 1: about that, and you know my business decisions and the 1477 01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,439 Speaker 1: moves that I may reflect that. And you know, you know, 1478 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,599 Speaker 1: I think a lot of our artists, you know, they 1479 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 1: forget who they are and then you know, they think 1480 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 1: that it's about your last hot record. But it's not. 1481 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,280 Speaker 1: It's more than that. It's more than just need their head. 1482 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,120 Speaker 1: It's not everybody be quiet, because I ain't gonna lie. 1483 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 1: I need to hear you know. It's not it's about 1484 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,720 Speaker 1: your career. It's about you know. That's one of the 1485 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,759 Speaker 1: things Russell told me earlier, is about having a career. 1486 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,280 Speaker 1: You know, I could go out and play, you know, 1487 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 1: you know, and have fifty sixty seventy thousand people out there. 1488 01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 1: I can go out there and you know, do festivals. 1489 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,600 Speaker 1: I can go do different things. And I think that, 1490 01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, our veterans sometimes they forget that, they forget 1491 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,559 Speaker 1: who they are. They get lost, they get discouraged because 1492 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,439 Speaker 1: they make it about the radio. They make it about 1493 01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:55,840 Speaker 1: only fourteen year olds. They make it about but yeah, yeah, yeah, 1494 01:26:55,880 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 1: I gotta television now, you know, destroy me, you know. 1495 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 1: So I just you know, I just think we just 1496 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,639 Speaker 1: have to know who we are. We gotta believe in ourselves. 1497 01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:18,680 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't. What I would say to you, 1498 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,600 Speaker 1: to all of viewers is that you gotta remember that 1499 01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 1: dreams don't have deadlines, and you gotta remember never to 1500 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 1: limit yourself. You know. Colonel Sanders started Kentucky for you 1501 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,880 Speaker 1: Chicken at sixty five years old. There are no limits 1502 01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,200 Speaker 1: on this thing. You can be successful as long as 1503 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,479 Speaker 1: you want to be successful. You know. Michael Jackson had 1504 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,640 Speaker 1: he he May Rest in Peace, had hot records, he 1505 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,000 Speaker 1: had a sold out world tour coming. He was fifty 1506 01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,280 Speaker 1: years old when he passed. Don't under don't you know 1507 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:50,000 Speaker 1: overestimate the gift of youth and underestimate the gift of experience. 1508 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:55,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying because you know, and like 1509 01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:57,519 Speaker 1: I say to all the artists out there, like there's 1510 01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people found out when 1511 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,720 Speaker 1: they put their gets on SoundCloud that it's not as 1512 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,320 Speaker 1: easy to make hot shit as you thought them four views? 1513 01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 1: How you like them four or five years? That's that 1514 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,479 Speaker 1: trip I was not working for you. You know, remember 1515 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,320 Speaker 1: you and you were critiquing my album, but one you 1516 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,200 Speaker 1: said it was trash. You know you got trash because 1517 01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 1: it only way gold? How do fur views feel like? 1518 01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:27,599 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know, you know you can? 1519 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,639 Speaker 1: You can you lead the Betty game with me because 1520 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, because when it's like they threw them, It's 1521 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 1: like if if one thing I will say about hip 1522 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,599 Speaker 1: hop is a funny just a sideball, if hip hop 1523 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 1: was the NBA, it's like they took the ball and 1524 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,439 Speaker 1: through it to the stands. It's like a mike, Like 1525 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 1: we just said, they just threw the audience in the 1526 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 1: crowd and say y'all do it. So now everybody's you know, 1527 01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:54,080 Speaker 1: because for every chance, who is truly talented and yes, 1528 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,680 Speaker 1: every one of them. There's a thousand of them that 1529 01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,040 Speaker 1: didn't do it. So what am I saying? Basically, what 1530 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying is there is some skill involved with this 1531 01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,519 Speaker 1: and it does take talent, and it isn't luck. We 1532 01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 1: all need a little bit of luck sprinkled in our lives. 1533 01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,640 Speaker 1: But the guys who made it yourself, some of the 1534 01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:15,840 Speaker 1: other artists, you name some of these guys, your favorite 1535 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:20,160 Speaker 1: rappers and artists, and they are talented. And you know, 1536 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,200 Speaker 1: so what what the Internet has showed us is it's 1537 01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 1: it's given us the opportunity to find out that, guess what, 1538 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:29,000 Speaker 1: rappers really are talented. These guys really have talent, they 1539 01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,640 Speaker 1: really are artists. Because if that wasn't true, then everybody 1540 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,160 Speaker 1: would be on, Yeah, there's a few hit what one 1541 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,639 Speaker 1: hit one that's here and there, But this thing takes talent, 1542 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,960 Speaker 1: you know. So you know, I think that that's just 1543 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,479 Speaker 1: something that and those old school guys out there, they 1544 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,000 Speaker 1: need to just make better decisions and remember that they're 1545 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:51,240 Speaker 1: talented and not be not be overwhelmed by this idea 1546 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,640 Speaker 1: that you're obsolete and irrelevant. This is not you know, 1547 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,360 Speaker 1: when you're thirty five years old, you don't need to 1548 01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,320 Speaker 1: keep going back to your prom You know you don't 1549 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,040 Speaker 1: have tell me life like you're going back to the 1550 01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 1: prompt thirty nine exactly. I'll be forty this year, you know, Joan. Really, 1551 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,519 Speaker 1: I'm doing three parties l A, New York and Miami. 1552 01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,439 Speaker 1: I love him. Can I have your party one of them? 1553 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why I threw that 1554 01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,640 Speaker 1: in there. I don't know why because I'm trying to. 1555 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean, how you thinking we got here? You know, 1556 01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,439 Speaker 1: I don't believe. Let me tell you something. Really, look 1557 01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,000 Speaker 1: around at the life you created. Really, look at this. 1558 01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:31,639 Speaker 1: This is unbelievable. I don't let me tell you something. 1559 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:36,200 Speaker 1: I love wis capon he Yo, listen. I'm gonna snuff 1560 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,320 Speaker 1: him soon because he told me he's supposed to be 1561 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,960 Speaker 1: it because listen, listen, listen. I don't. I don't. I 1562 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:47,040 Speaker 1: don't invite him the podcast. But when he hit me 1563 01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,800 Speaker 1: earlier and then listen, you know, I lie because I'll 1564 01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,120 Speaker 1: come from by later. So I lied to them. Oh yeah, 1565 01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:59,920 Speaker 1: you're talking. I know what had you locked there? Two thirty? 1566 01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,400 Speaker 1: But I told him, of course you did, because I 1567 01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:07,000 Speaker 1: come from Chris Ldy School. You know, we can't we 1568 01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,720 Speaker 1: can't fall asleep in the get away car though. You 1569 01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:11,600 Speaker 1: know people fall asleep in the get away cars, like 1570 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,080 Speaker 1: take the bucket to check off lap and get out 1571 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,880 Speaker 1: the car place. It's like, you know, we gotta you 1572 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:20,120 Speaker 1: gotta be on time. That's another thing any discipline be on. 1573 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,080 Speaker 1: Can we teach the youth about being on time? Because 1574 01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:27,479 Speaker 1: let me tell you something just now. Recently I've been 1575 01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, doing what I gotta do to Leo hits 1576 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,720 Speaker 1: me and Lee all goes, I need to meet you 1577 01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:40,439 Speaker 1: at the Polo lounge. Right, This is no because I 1578 01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:44,599 Speaker 1: know it's loaded. His skin was already set. It's already 1579 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:48,720 Speaker 1: to meet you at the poll up. It's like it's 1580 01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:52,840 Speaker 1: like me, we set it all up, but me and 1581 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:59,360 Speaker 1: Ali is only there. Leo is already there. But he 1582 01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,400 Speaker 1: told us to mean there's at eight o'clock. But this 1583 01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:06,400 Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to tell young people, is he 1584 01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 1: told me to meet him at eight o'clock. We pulled 1585 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,479 Speaker 1: up at seven five and he was already ready. There 1586 01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:17,040 Speaker 1: you go. He's sitting there like this, let's go, And 1587 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, holy sh the best chair in the meeting 1588 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:32,200 Speaker 1: and all that to get there. Yeah, listen, So this 1589 01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:36,880 Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to tell young people. You're not 1590 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,760 Speaker 1: supposed to show up at eight fifteen when it's eight 1591 01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,719 Speaker 1: o'clocks me and peoples to show up at seven forty 1592 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,840 Speaker 1: five and scope out the joint. And also I would 1593 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:50,200 Speaker 1: also say this, I would say that, you know, the cockiness, 1594 01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,920 Speaker 1: it's great for the records. Yes, if I make a 1595 01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,120 Speaker 1: ready to come to business, if I make a record tomorrow, 1596 01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the cockiest thing you've ever heard in 1597 01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:02,960 Speaker 1: your life. But in between, it's it's okay to be humble. 1598 01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:07,280 Speaker 1: No humility. Humility is okay. I didn't say sudo. I 1599 01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,760 Speaker 1: didn't say sudo. I don't know what SUIT don't mean. Yeah, 1600 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 1: you know, I'm yeah, I'm fourth, but you know, fake 1601 01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:23,559 Speaker 1: humility like you know, you know, but just be humble, 1602 01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know people want 1603 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,120 Speaker 1: to help you. Then you know you ain't gotta be 1604 01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,559 Speaker 1: you know all that all the time, you know, leaving 1605 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,080 Speaker 1: on the records, leaving on your music, leaving on stage. 1606 01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,120 Speaker 1: But other than that, just be you. You know what 1607 01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I think you get a lot a 1608 01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,760 Speaker 1: lot further, you know, in your career. Okay, before we 1609 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 1: get you get about here because I know you gotta 1610 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,640 Speaker 1: go because Claude is over there. You gotta go. But 1611 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:49,200 Speaker 1: you actually have It's not just lip Sync Battle. It's 1612 01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,679 Speaker 1: not just you know, you're playing these others. You actually 1613 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:55,880 Speaker 1: have a production describe to these young black kids. Yeah, 1614 01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:59,920 Speaker 1: well you can actually how people. Well, I co produced 1615 01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 1: UM the Grammy nomination show for for about five years. 1616 01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm a producer on lip Sync Battle was well, did 1617 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,160 Speaker 1: you know how lightly he said that? You know what 1618 01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I think we should make noise for that. 1619 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 1: If somebody has, you know, if somebody has you know, 1620 01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,760 Speaker 1: TV ideas or ideas that I think are worthy. I'm 1621 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,200 Speaker 1: not gonna like everything. If I don't like it. If 1622 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,240 Speaker 1: I don't like it, I'm gonna tell tell a person 1623 01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,160 Speaker 1: like I can send him to Claudine something like that. 1624 01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:34,120 Speaker 1: But we gotta be easy. It's a million people. Let 1625 01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,799 Speaker 1: me just tell you that one thing for Charltoning for certain, 1626 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:42,519 Speaker 1: when Violator dispersed, it was probably the saddest day of 1627 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,559 Speaker 1: my life. It was crazy because I didn't know anything 1628 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,360 Speaker 1: other than Chris Likedy. I didn't know other things other 1629 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:55,320 Speaker 1: than Claudine, Laurie Dublin's and so on. So Scott, I 1630 01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,320 Speaker 1: didn't know nothing. I feel you. So when when when 1631 01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,000 Speaker 1: Chris went away, it was probably the saddest day of 1632 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,680 Speaker 1: my life. I feel you because I just didn't know what. 1633 01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:10,559 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do called Buster and Buster 1634 01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:14,880 Speaker 1: was already had another and he had now he was 1635 01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,800 Speaker 1: with James at that time for a minute, but it 1636 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,280 Speaker 1: was like another management. It wasn't It wasn't like James 1637 01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,600 Speaker 1: was at the time. And I was just lost, like 1638 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:29,240 Speaker 1: I just now finding myself with me personally. And one 1639 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:34,040 Speaker 1: of the the very first persons people, I'm sorry, I said, persons, 1640 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm like dyslexic. So as Claudine, and I said, Claudine 1641 01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:46,240 Speaker 1: was she has never ever made me question her. He 1642 01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,280 Speaker 1: has never ever done anything. And the fact that Claudine 1643 01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,559 Speaker 1: is with you and lets me know that you really 1644 01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,120 Speaker 1: living out violator brother, and I love you, my brother. 1645 01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,360 Speaker 1: I love I love that woman. Let's love. I love 1646 01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:02,240 Speaker 1: that woman. I love like Lolaudie. I love Claudine like 1647 01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,720 Speaker 1: you don't understand. And she actually said, yeah, I want 1648 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,400 Speaker 1: to meet your wife. And I made sure my wife 1649 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,760 Speaker 1: came just to meet Claudine because she means so much 1650 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,600 Speaker 1: to my life. Like I'm gonna be honest with you. 1651 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:14,960 Speaker 1: And I went and look for her. And when I 1652 01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:30,200 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't afforder up here, I can't do it. 1653 01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:38,400 Speaker 1: It was seven I was. I'm like that. But I 1654 01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:42,400 Speaker 1: can't thank you enough because you know what everything, that's 1655 01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,639 Speaker 1: where we all Chris likedys likely to keep his legacy 1656 01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,559 Speaker 1: first of all, you know, oh Chris on so many levels. 1657 01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean my Mr. Smith album, him connecting me with 1658 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,280 Speaker 1: the track masters, we did that whole doing it recond 1659 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:57,479 Speaker 1: you talk to this was done with me when we 1660 01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:01,840 Speaker 1: did that song. Um, you know Chris, you know, she's queen, 1661 01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:09,400 Speaker 1: she was raised a together. I gotta meet you know. Yeah, 1662 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:15,320 Speaker 1: well but yeah, Chris was. He was a special guy 1663 01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,840 Speaker 1: and you know he's definitely be sorely missed. And um, 1664 01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,000 Speaker 1: I try to pay it forward by, you know, looking 1665 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,439 Speaker 1: out for Tiffany. You know, when she's in l A, 1666 01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,840 Speaker 1: she stays with me, Um, you know, making sure that 1667 01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:31,600 Speaker 1: she's good. L Nori and Buster created a new violator 1668 01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,640 Speaker 1: and because you know, you know, let me just tell 1669 01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:38,400 Speaker 1: you something, al And I'm sorry it's gonna get very touchy, 1670 01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:43,360 Speaker 1: not for you, not for anybody here. But the other 1671 01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:48,760 Speaker 1: day d m X performed right where in the ball 1672 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:53,240 Speaker 1: Clay Center. Okay, the whole hip hop said, damn, Max, 1673 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,000 Speaker 1: don't look good. You know, he looks like he's smoking 1674 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:03,200 Speaker 1: whatever whatever. But isn't it hops responsibility to say that 1675 01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:05,840 Speaker 1: this man gave us ten million records, this man gave 1676 01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,559 Speaker 1: us such and such. Why don't we just come take 1677 01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,800 Speaker 1: him and put him in the rehab or put him 1678 01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:14,880 Speaker 1: to whatever he needs to do to be safe. But 1679 01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:17,160 Speaker 1: you know what, hip hop don't have a union to 1680 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:21,639 Speaker 1: do that. L is great, Nor's great, if Fin is great, 1681 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:25,560 Speaker 1: Rich Blanco is great, Brandy Acca is great. Shouldn't we 1682 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:29,720 Speaker 1: give one percent of something so that if anything like 1683 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:33,360 Speaker 1: this happens, like Chris Lidy passing Tiffany, don't have to 1684 01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:38,240 Speaker 1: worry like DMX you know, have to go on the rehab. 1685 01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,559 Speaker 1: We can take care of that. I feel like hip hop, 1686 01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,800 Speaker 1: oh's hip hop? That am I bucking? Hell? No, you know, 1687 01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:50,920 Speaker 1: bugging you know, But um, that's that's a very complicated thing, 1688 01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,599 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you know what you're talking about. 1689 01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:58,599 Speaker 1: I mean, you know sonns can't get their mothers off drugs. Man, 1690 01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,040 Speaker 1: you know that's a tough one. No, No, I don't 1691 01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,680 Speaker 1: understand what you're saying, but in terms of you know, 1692 01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:06,800 Speaker 1: unionizing hip hop and and you know, it's something to 1693 01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:11,240 Speaker 1: think about. Um strong management can you know, can create 1694 01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:15,240 Speaker 1: that kind of a vibe. It's not not it's nothing nothing. 1695 01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,120 Speaker 1: Look the laborers, look the people, the guys on the 1696 01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,320 Speaker 1: ground floor, to guys who had three four songs, the 1697 01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,680 Speaker 1: guys who you know, it would be great if they 1698 01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:28,000 Speaker 1: had the medical come on, we better but three or 1699 01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,280 Speaker 1: four or four? But three or four? So look Rob 1700 01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:35,560 Speaker 1: Basin DJ Easy Rock don't deserve to be they But 1701 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:45,479 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't think it's nothing wrong. I 1702 01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,920 Speaker 1: think that's a good idea. But I think people take it. 1703 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:49,799 Speaker 1: Takes a lot of time and a lot of commitment. 1704 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:51,840 Speaker 1: There's real there's you know, you have to be real 1705 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,760 Speaker 1: about things like but if you gave ten years of 1706 01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:57,240 Speaker 1: hip hop right right, you're dedicated to hip hop. Now 1707 01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:02,320 Speaker 1: you you you developed something type of disease. It only 1708 01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,400 Speaker 1: take forty to get to take to get rid of 1709 01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:08,040 Speaker 1: a disease. And there's people like us who have it. 1710 01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,760 Speaker 1: I'll give a band, You'll give a band, Jaz, give 1711 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:16,720 Speaker 1: a band whatever sending that person's you know, I would 1712 01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,200 Speaker 1: always be willing to contribute to something like that as 1713 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 1: long as I know, dudes, ain't you know? No, No, No, 1714 01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:30,280 Speaker 1: it's transparent. It's transparent. A little profile. Who got them 1715 01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:38,120 Speaker 1: new perilities? Aunt that? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's transparent. We 1716 01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,400 Speaker 1: gotta be transparent, yes, because you know why, because the 1717 01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:43,960 Speaker 1: thing is, I don't want to give extra five thousand 1718 01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:45,760 Speaker 1: that I don't want to. I would totally, I would. 1719 01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,880 Speaker 1: I would have no problem with you know, look, you're 1720 01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,040 Speaker 1: not gonna be successful if you don't give period. Anyway, 1721 01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,839 Speaker 1: that's just part of it. You know, that comes with territory. 1722 01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:56,400 Speaker 1: So if you think you're gonna be able to be 1723 01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:58,639 Speaker 1: a selfish prick and be successful, it's not gonna happen. 1724 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna be because it. People that are successful are 1725 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,800 Speaker 1: successful because of the things they do right, and they 1726 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,559 Speaker 1: departs of their life where they fail. They're unsuccessful because 1727 01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:11,120 Speaker 1: of the things they do incorrectly. And so you know, 1728 01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,599 Speaker 1: because a lot of times people think me, an evil 1729 01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:17,040 Speaker 1: guy is successful because he's evil. No, he's successful because 1730 01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,479 Speaker 1: he's doing something right. He also will reap the rewards 1731 01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,640 Speaker 1: are being evil in another area. So don't confuse it. 1732 01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 1: People are successful because of what they do right, period, 1733 01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,360 Speaker 1: and they lose because of what they do wrong. You 1734 01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Just like sports, you win because 1735 01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:41,880 Speaker 1: of what you did right, but there's repercussions for other things. Flagrance, 1736 01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, whatever, you know turn over like so you 1737 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,920 Speaker 1: know it's consequences are you're mass smart. I just gotta 1738 01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,240 Speaker 1: make noise for you being mass small. But I don't 1739 01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:02,040 Speaker 1: one drop you in love y'all need you any ship 1740 01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,160 Speaker 1: being open the hank No, I'm good, I got you. 1741 01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,960 Speaker 1: Whatever you braby, I'm thank you, thank you,