WEBVTT - Can A Chair Be Racist

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<v Speaker 1>Flame Flame.

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<v Speaker 2>If you watch your coffee time the baby you know

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<v Speaker 2>the name Flame my bro also known as my Roe Flame.

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<v Speaker 1>Come in with last and come in with Jim love Loundes.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, you better catch it when you can drop a

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge from fatherhood to politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Shouting now comics, just paying homage. What's up? Tips?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>She raised shot towns on speaking to the grown a second.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna laugh, come him and kick it in.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end we leave it with just a lift

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<v Speaker 2>you spirits spec you want to revisit so your first

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<v Speaker 2>second listen, young folks are your slip oh folks that

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<v Speaker 2>we dig it?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, no this do what you do? No this, do

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<v Speaker 1>what you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Can no do what I do? No this? Hey Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>this is comedian slim Bro and welcome to this week's

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<v Speaker 4>episode of Laugh and Learn. Well we are here to

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<v Speaker 4>give it to you on the political aspect, the life aspect,

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<v Speaker 4>the Hodgepodge entertainment aspect, my aspect, and my lovely co host,

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<v Speaker 4>the one and only took Miss I can't, I just can't.

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<v Speaker 4>The lady Bobby Clifford. Hello Bobby Clifford, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad to have you. First of all, Babby. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to thank you for being here hanging out with

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<v Speaker 4>me this like this whole season, and I get such

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<v Speaker 4>positive love. They said they love us together. I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't. I just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, we're like the Ing and Yang or the

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<v Speaker 1>Ebony and Ivory podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I do like that. How about Ivy Ivory and you

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<v Speaker 4>can be the Ebony Ooh, Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have to give me a few tips.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I gotta tip, all right, I gotta tip, all right, Bobby,

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<v Speaker 4>I miss you. It's it's just what happened this week. Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a great show Monday, but I had to

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<v Speaker 4>cut out early because I had another engage. And then

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<v Speaker 4>what else happened this week? Oh? And I said the

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<v Speaker 4>Earthquake show last week, and it came out yesterday on

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<v Speaker 4>Quake on Kevin Hart's radio station. I think it's serious

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<v Speaker 4>fifty four and I have not heard it, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>telling you, I encouraged my listeners not to listen to

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<v Speaker 4>it because we clown so bad. Oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>almost embarrassed how much I cut up on that. It

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<v Speaker 4>was the best time with Earthquake. Who's my friend? My

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<v Speaker 4>co host Memphis Will every Monday at the Free Voice

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<v Speaker 4>Day at the Hollywood Laugh Factory. Omar Jay Dorsey who

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<v Speaker 4>played Hollywood on Queen Sugar and I can't think of

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<v Speaker 4>the other two comics names, but oh my god, we

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<v Speaker 4>clown so bad. Oh, I'm almost embarrassed. And to say

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<v Speaker 4>I had too much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think so. I don't think so. What

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<v Speaker 1>was the subject matter? Were you just goofing around any topic? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>So Earthquake would throw questions at us and ask us

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<v Speaker 4>all of our answers and boog and it's just it's

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<v Speaker 4>a good time. I would say it's good, clean fun,

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<v Speaker 4>but there was nothing clean about this fun. Y'all cut up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, it was so much fun. It was

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<v Speaker 4>such a good life. Thank you Earthquake, to all the

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<v Speaker 4>crew for having me on that we can say, y'all

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<v Speaker 4>get a chance, y'all go and listen to it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>on Heartbeat Video on Series Ratio, which is Kevin Hart's station.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's fifty four. I believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it's on YouTube, because I'm gonna teak

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube too, because I'd like to see if there

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<v Speaker 1>if they filmed it. I always loved that. I love

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<v Speaker 1>to see people's mannerisms and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I think they did film about me. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's a possibility that it is on YouTube. What

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<v Speaker 4>else happened this week? Oh? I found out that my

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<v Speaker 4>my driver's license was suspended, not suspended, expired. Make sure

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<v Speaker 4>you get the wor differ different, very big difference. And

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<v Speaker 4>the only reason I found that out because I had

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<v Speaker 4>went to an establishment and you had to show your

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<v Speaker 4>ID and they would let me in because of.

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<v Speaker 1>My idea, you did they card you?

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<v Speaker 4>They card everybody, so let me get awady like it

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<v Speaker 4>was a place that you couldn't get in without an

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<v Speaker 4>I D. So yeah, everybody got caughted. I love when

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<v Speaker 4>they asked me for ID. Girl, you should see me

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<v Speaker 4>rushing to my person to find the ID. But I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know that I had to go to the d

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<v Speaker 4>MV to you know, get my license, because it takes

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<v Speaker 4>about a week or so for your license to come

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<v Speaker 4>in to mail here when you have to renew it

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, update it. And so by what I

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<v Speaker 4>learned there was this country sucks. Let me just say

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<v Speaker 4>that we do not look out for I've had a

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<v Speaker 4>bad military experience with the DMV. Now I've had this

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<v Speaker 4>experience at the at the dm I'm sure it's not

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<v Speaker 4>the DMVA. At the VA, which is the Veterans Administration.

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<v Speaker 4>Again yesterday, I had this experience. So I had to

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<v Speaker 4>renew your thing. You had to stand in the line

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, and then they give you a thing

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<v Speaker 4>to go and register at the computer before they give

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<v Speaker 4>you a number to sit down. There was a man there.

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<v Speaker 4>He was eighty four years old. I only know that

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<v Speaker 4>because I typed in his information. He was born in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen thirty nine. I only know that because The Wizard

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<v Speaker 4>of Os was made in nineteen thirty nine, if y'all know,

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<v Speaker 4>y'all know that is my favorite movie. And he was

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<v Speaker 4>I think, but no, he was a Caucasian man, but

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<v Speaker 4>his girlfriend or wife was foreign and they were older,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was shaky, old with the cane shaking and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>But he was sitting at the computer. Nobody helped him.

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<v Speaker 4>They just so heavy go type because in order to

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<v Speaker 4>go to the next step you had to log in

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<v Speaker 4>on the computer and put all your information. And he says, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm old, older man, I don't know how to use

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<v Speaker 4>the computer. So I went and did. Man, it took

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<v Speaker 4>all the four minutes, and I was like, excuse me, sir,

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<v Speaker 4>yo man, I'll sit here and help you. So I

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<v Speaker 4>sat there and helped him and we put all the

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<v Speaker 4>information in. He cracked jokes with me and woo woo woo,

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<v Speaker 4>and we just talked a little bit. And I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 4>to myself, they should have people here to assist the

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<v Speaker 4>elderly or the impair too, because these teenagers sit on

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<v Speaker 4>the damn computer all day anyway, Why did I let

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<v Speaker 4>them make money and help people to do this? And

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<v Speaker 4>the old man was so cute because he slid a

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<v Speaker 4>twenty in my purse. I was like, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>need your money. I didn't do it for the money,

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<v Speaker 4>although I did go to Chick fil A out that twenty,

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<v Speaker 4>let me just tell you. But I just it really

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<v Speaker 4>made me look at America like, oh my god, we

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<v Speaker 4>all these out of work teenagers during the summer when

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<v Speaker 4>in high school. They need some of job hired to

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<v Speaker 4>a day, you know, two or three days a week

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<v Speaker 4>to help these people. We just we are so disregarding

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<v Speaker 4>to the elderly and to the mentally ill here, to

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<v Speaker 4>the veterans who fought to keep this country safe, and

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<v Speaker 4>to the people that are mentally challenged. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a mess body. And I just thought and had

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<v Speaker 4>I not experienced that, I probably would have never thought

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I think, I think you're exactly right. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to see I'd love to see them have jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think we don't teach We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this before. We don't teach our kids to do service,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the acts of service any longer it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be people to go into the Peace Corps or

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<v Speaker 1>a military. You know, that was one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>you just mentioned, that you'd be a candy striper. You

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<v Speaker 1>do things just to help. Sometimes it looked good on

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<v Speaker 1>in today's day and age. It would look good on

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<v Speaker 1>a college application if you couldn't get a job and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe only just a couple hours a week. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>Think of what that eating room would have looked like

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<v Speaker 1>if these people were able to just fly right through

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<v Speaker 1>and get to the next step and blind people like,

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<v Speaker 1>who's happened to blind people?

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<v Speaker 4>Right? It was and to me, and I'm not bashing

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<v Speaker 4>the DMV, but they were so disregarding and the workers

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<v Speaker 4>that I experienced. I'm not going to say all the workers,

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<v Speaker 4>but the workers that I experienced that I watched were

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<v Speaker 4>so unkind. That's the word I'm going to say, was

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<v Speaker 4>so unkind. For no reason. You behind a damn glass

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<v Speaker 4>move it, don't even pay costs nothing to be pleasant.

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<v Speaker 4>It's your job. If you didn't want the job, they

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<v Speaker 4>found something else to do. But they were so cut

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<v Speaker 4>and dry and unpleasant. It was. It was disheartening to me.

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<v Speaker 4>And they were I'm sorry to say that they were.

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<v Speaker 4>They both were black, and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>this don't even make no damn sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Has yet, has nothing to do with it. It's just people certains.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no body. I have experienced horrible service since

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<v Speaker 4>the pandemic, everywhere, every travel the service that has not

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<v Speaker 4>been the same since before the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't great before. Either might have been a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better, but it wasn't. You don't do customer service.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate AI for that reason. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>do stuff checkout, I don't work there. I don't like

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<v Speaker 4>a I don't I like having a personal good morning.

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<v Speaker 4>How was your day. If you worked in the grocery store,

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<v Speaker 4>you were a check or barbie, they would fire you.

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<v Speaker 4>Your lands would be ten feet long.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, they would I go. I went too so

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Chick fil A, I go to Chick fil

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<v Speaker 1>A all the time. It's remote learning, I mean remote work.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, I told you I kind of like glom

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<v Speaker 1>onto the people. They're my staff and my people that

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<v Speaker 1>I am able to see through the day. My cousin

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<v Speaker 1>came with me because we had a death in the

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<v Speaker 1>family and it was actually just right across from where

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<v Speaker 1>my aunt had just passed, and he said, my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like President Obama in hand when you come in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, because I'm here every day. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>never I never met a stranger, so you're right. I

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<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't be good at But I like I like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I like a little touch, I like

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<v Speaker 1>a little hello. I like a smile. Uh. And it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't take a whole lot. I don't need a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it, because I also don't need to know your

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<v Speaker 1>your life story, because I tend to I have like

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of flipping magnet for those people.

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<v Speaker 4>But but IBB, for the record, you're one of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I don't like I like a little something.

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<v Speaker 4>I do like a little something. I just wish that

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<v Speaker 4>our culture here was a little more like the agents.

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<v Speaker 4>The agents really look at their elderly, like the wives,

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<v Speaker 4>and they look out for them. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>we're going through here, but that absolutely listen, we're going

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<v Speaker 4>down that rabbit hole. Let's continue to go, Bobby. So

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<v Speaker 4>in Georgia, a very young couple him had experienced a

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<v Speaker 4>horrible tragedy, uh doing childbirth. Apparently. Oh, they're still trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out to all the kinks to this story

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<v Speaker 4>that the baby was decapitated doing childbirth, So they don't

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<v Speaker 4>we don't know who's their fault to blame, but they

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<v Speaker 4>have a lawsuit against the hospital and the doctor and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're waiting for the story to unfold anyway from

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<v Speaker 4>here at Laugh and Learn right myself personally, Bobby Clifford,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody produces, we are sending love and condoless and hoogs

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<v Speaker 4>to that family because that is. It's one thing to

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<v Speaker 4>lose a child, especially at childbirth, but the way to

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<v Speaker 4>lose that child is the whole awesome It is it is,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you that is, and they're young, so it's right.

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<v Speaker 1>The only and I feel like I'm one of those

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<v Speaker 1>old people you know when people say, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>she's so her face is so pretty, but she's so whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're young, I'm gonna say it's they're young. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope they have more kids. I'm hope it's not like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, they're not forty five and this was their

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<v Speaker 1>one and only chance. But it sounds like we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to wait for the autopsy. But it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>something want to wry just during the you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>complication during the pregnancy, and they were trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>the baby out and so we'll see if they were

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<v Speaker 1>negligent or not. But what a catastrophe for the poor

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<v Speaker 1>young parents.

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<v Speaker 4>Just planting Yeah, you just planted a seat in my

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<v Speaker 4>head though, So you know what kind of fear as

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<v Speaker 4>the mother and the father I don't have of having

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<v Speaker 4>another baby right, not necessarily even at that hospital. But

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<v Speaker 4>who's assisted me to come out? I would probably have

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<v Speaker 4>to get in the bath, tell me get a midwife,

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<v Speaker 4>and just I got yeah, don't touch it, let me

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<v Speaker 4>just do all the pushing.

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<v Speaker 1>Something or I might be saying I want a cesarean.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to ever take a chance that the

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder gets caught in the canal again, let's just schedule

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<v Speaker 1>a cesarean, so then I know this little one's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get out. I don't know if we even get

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<v Speaker 1>any of those choices, but at twenty it's what a catastrophic,

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophic thing to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>And the poor little baby, the poor baby, God get

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<v Speaker 4>the baby. Prayers to the family, prayers are all involved,

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<v Speaker 4>even prayers to the doctor, because it could have been

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<v Speaker 4>human era, could have been human era. So because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure that they have a conscious and they are going

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<v Speaker 4>through something, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god, I can't even be terrified to have another

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<v Speaker 1>another delivery. I don't think that's something that you get

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<v Speaker 1>over either, to be quite honest with you. But stuff

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<v Speaker 1>we can't get over. What do you think about that,

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<v Speaker 1>Megan thee Stallion.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Megan got pictures hanging The men in prison

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<v Speaker 4>got pictures of Megan hanging up on their walls. And

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<v Speaker 4>if they can't get to Megan, they're gonna get what

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<v Speaker 4>was close to Megan. And he's on his way for

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<v Speaker 4>ten years. Everybody is looking at that story and looking

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<v Speaker 4>at that story in a different way, and everybody's saying

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<v Speaker 4>what they he shouldn't have did this and would it

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm just gonna stay it like this from what

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen from when this story first unfolded from

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<v Speaker 4>Megan's side, because I'm not I didn't take size on

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<v Speaker 4>this at all anyway. I had no dog in this race.

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<v Speaker 4>She always tried to protect him from not wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>press charges to Even when the story first broke, she

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<v Speaker 4>did not blame him or fault him. He took to

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<v Speaker 4>social media to make her look bad, even while she

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<v Speaker 4>was defending him, knowing that he had shot her. I

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<v Speaker 4>saw love from her side. I saw narcissists from his side.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't. I mean, she wouldn't have had a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make a difference if she wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>if she wasn't going to press charges. It's a gunshot wound.

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<v Speaker 1>There a hospital where she had to go. They're mandatory reporters.

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<v Speaker 1>They found bullet fragments in the foot, and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>automatically reported. There is no choice. He seems, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know a lot about this. I remember it

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<v Speaker 1>sort of happening, like the names and stuff, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a lot of the detail. But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's unapologetic, which is just sort of strange to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And he you know, he's got crimes that he committed.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a thought with a semi automatic firearm. He

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<v Speaker 1>was carrying a loaded, unregistered firearm while in a vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>and discharging a firearm with gross negligence. And he's he's innocent.

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<v Speaker 4>And no matter what, no matter how you package it,

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<v Speaker 4>boxed it. He was drunk, he was he was under

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<v Speaker 4>the influence whatever you say. Listen, a gun has no name,

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<v Speaker 4>or a bullet has no name, of right. It could

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<v Speaker 4>have ricocheted off of a building and went into somebody's

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<v Speaker 4>apartment and hit a kid. It could have it could

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<v Speaker 4>have ricocheted and hit her in her uterus or in

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<v Speaker 4>her gut or something, her face, you know, her throat

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<v Speaker 4>was making some money for singing, so that I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think that they were too lean. And I think, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think like exactly what you say it from what

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<v Speaker 4>he had shown us, he didn't have much remorse. He

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<v Speaker 4>didn't show any He showed no remorse. He felt like

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<v Speaker 4>I was invincible, and the court reminded him that you

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<v Speaker 4>are not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no it is. You've got to be because it

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<v Speaker 1>might not have been her foot if he was just

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<v Speaker 1>up as you said it just the gon just pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out a little bit could have been right through her head.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the people who it's like the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing with Trump, I think what gets him in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>with all these indictments is that he's unapologetic that nothing

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<v Speaker 1>is ever his fault. And if he just said, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>even with the documents, right, he just said, like Pence

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<v Speaker 1>and Biden and anybody else, oh here, sorry in Hillary Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>here you go. I didn't even realize they were in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Send your people in to make sure that I'm clean

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't have anything out. If he just did that,

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<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't even be even having talking about that conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about that indictment. And so I think he's the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Had he just said, I'm sorry, I was impaired, I

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<v Speaker 1>had no right to have the gun in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. But no, he just hit him saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to apologize. I think that bit him

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottom.

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<v Speaker 4>The arrogance of him also got him. Since the state prison,

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<v Speaker 4>because he is a celebrity, state prison will not be

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<v Speaker 4>the same as Club may et c Prison. It will

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<v Speaker 4>not be the same.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I got to tell you, I know he's a celebrity.

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard of him flame, So I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Feeling Bobby Cliff, don't feel bad. Guess what mem.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh megan a stallion? God, I'm like, who's it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I was, but I didn't know who he was.

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<v Speaker 4>And allegedly that is what the argument transpired about them

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<v Speaker 4>arguing over their damn career. That's why it's so catchy

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<v Speaker 4>jaging somebody in your profession, especially when you feel like

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<v Speaker 4>you're in a competition with them. Now, we don't know

0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.159
<v Speaker 4>that story to be true, but that's the one of

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<v Speaker 4>the stories that I was blinked that they were arguing

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<v Speaker 4>over who was the most famous, that the most I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>are you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I can't. I don't get I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what a relationship is supposed to be about. You're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to elevate and support each other and be happy

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<v Speaker 1>that the other one is moving forward and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>push them. So, I mean, she still has nerve damage

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<v Speaker 1>on her foot. She can't feel the back of her foot, so,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, if you're on heels and stuff, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that can be dangerous. You know, you sort

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<v Speaker 1>of need your you need your feet underneath you. She's

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<v Speaker 1>awfully young to have that happen. But I this first

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<v Speaker 1>on that guild King interview last year. It was last

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<v Speaker 1>year or the year before, and I thought she was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of brave. She she seemed I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of domestic abuse or just verbal

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<v Speaker 1>abuse in the house, but it seemed like she was

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<v Speaker 1>alluding to you know, she didn't want to report him either,

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<v Speaker 1>is because she was just nervous that that would lead

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<v Speaker 1>to something else. It's like when any of these poor

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<v Speaker 1>domestic abuse victims, they try to keep their mouth shut

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<v Speaker 1>because the beating that they're going to take when they

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<v Speaker 1>get home from jail is going to be worse than

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to them that night. So I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>that's not her situation. I hope he learned something in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he will claim there's they're appealing it,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see. We'll see what actually happens.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think he's actually a Canadian residence, so we

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<v Speaker 4>will see how this plays out. But I'm not I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't for or against him getting any any time,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm not giving him a pass on this because

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<v Speaker 4>that's still a woman. About two feet shorter than her,

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<v Speaker 4>but she's still a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And you shouldn't be doing it period. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>really could have hurt. Somebody got hurt at a party.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this was supposed to be a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a fun event.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, whatever they can I just say this, whatever they

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<v Speaker 4>was drinking, I'll never want that. I don't want that.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe we're a day one hundred and two

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<v Speaker 1>of the SAG and writers strike. It seems kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but they went to the table today. So allegedly

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<v Speaker 4>the SAG has sent the proposal to the writer. So

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see. Because this is we're losing a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>revenue here, but thank you Taylor Swift for all the

0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.480
<v Speaker 4>revenue that you brought here. We talked about that. But

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<v Speaker 4>people are people are having a really hard time here, Bobby.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you would. I mean, that's what makes the

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<v Speaker 1>world go around, especially in your area. For for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>in California, I can't even imagine just the craft service people.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's no no service to give, they're not getting paid.

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<v Speaker 4>So those people, the people that do the laundry and

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<v Speaker 4>all that. I'm so glad that I don't try to

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<v Speaker 4>live above my means. I mean, it gets tight, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't try to because it's too hard to try

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<v Speaker 4>to keep up and keep up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you can't. I don't think, especially in your area,

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<v Speaker 1>that unless you were at the very top. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know who that would be, because you

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<v Speaker 1>can always be taken down. I mean, look at look

0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.800
<v Speaker 1>at Billy Porter. And now Billy's also going through I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure contentious divorce. So I think that's financially he's probably

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.840
<v Speaker 1>hitting him a little bit too. But you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying he has to sell the house and whatnot, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're one hundred and two, that's only a few months out.

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<v Speaker 1>They tell us to keep what six months of your

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<v Speaker 1>bills in the bank and a year. Really that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Susie orman one should have. But that's he's somebody that's

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<v Speaker 1>he's in a great position with a great platform, and

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<v Speaker 1>even he is being affected by this. So and he's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of versatile. He could he can go stage, he

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<v Speaker 1>can go TV, he could go movie. He's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's lucky.

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<v Speaker 4>I was about to say, Bobby Versta, what you know

0:20:57.880 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 4>about that? You laid up?

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<v Speaker 1>But speaking of which is a wonderful segue to what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think of Wayne Brady? Versatile?

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<v Speaker 4>No, uh, crock pot sexual, No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>pan sexual. Let me get it right, damn it, well,

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<v Speaker 4>listen if that's what makes him happy to say, listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to look it up because I didn't even

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<v Speaker 4>know what it meant.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I didn't either, and I don't know if so,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have thought that was back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>we would have just called that bye, right, so you

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<v Speaker 1>would take anybody that came. But I think now that

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting a little bit more descriptive, so it being

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<v Speaker 1>a trans man or a trans woman would be in

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<v Speaker 1>that as well. He's not parsing out anybody. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>just saying man and what you know, absolutely anybody. He

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<v Speaker 1>said it's bisexual with an open attitude or something to

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<v Speaker 1>that effect, that which I thought was hysterical. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless him. He's being reported by his daughter and

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<v Speaker 1>his ex wife. In fact, they have some new reality

0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 1>show and Hulu. His ex wife and partner had a

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 1>baby and he's considered to be co parenting. He has

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<v Speaker 1>the baby as well, So I thought they have really come.

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<v Speaker 1>What if it happened when you broke up with people

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<v Speaker 1>and you hated their guns. Now you do reality shows.

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<v Speaker 1>You're helping the baby daddy raise that kid.

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<v Speaker 4>This new generation know how to market that dollar. They

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:27.520
<v Speaker 4>know how to make that money with the scandal, and

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.000
<v Speaker 4>they know that the scandal makes the money the worst.

0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:34.879
<v Speaker 4>This country reward bad behavior, this world rewards bad So

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<v Speaker 4>why not. We're doing it for the presidency, so why

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<v Speaker 4>not doing for TV? It's entertaining. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 4>watch a show about self help and healing and how

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<v Speaker 4>to feel better about who you are? Good luck with that.

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.200
<v Speaker 4>It's a few out here like that. But if it's

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<v Speaker 4>something where they're fighting and cussing and bf beaching and

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<v Speaker 4>mfing and sleeping with each other, oh my god, that

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<v Speaker 4>is That's why Jerry Springer lasted for so many years.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry Springer was a very popular show. Let me just

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<v Speaker 4>be let me just be very honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I thought that show was off. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was. It was always it was like you

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.360
<v Speaker 1>were in the trenches, like the worst of the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you'd have a one armed stripper who was

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<v Speaker 1>having trouble picking up her ones and then she was

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<v Speaker 1>so that way. But speaking of so, that's another great

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're just opening them up this time. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>of dysfunction, what do you think about the Alabama melee

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<v Speaker 1>where the co captain was trying to have the faery

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<v Speaker 1>come in. I get a lot of mixed feelings with

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<v Speaker 1>this because I've been trying to watch a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the different clips, and I think that again, I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>you say a million times the pieces that of the

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<v Speaker 1>initial people that were involved when it was just this,

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have as much a problem with that. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like I know, the chair is like a big

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<v Speaker 1>meme now, but the kid who hit with the chair,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's it's the same one. Two

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<v Speaker 1>of the people he hit were not a threat to him.

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>One was a woman that had already been taken out

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, you know, when he could have done

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:10.400
<v Speaker 1>real damage to her. And one was just a guy

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<v Speaker 1>getting off the boat, literally just getting off the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>Not I think he wanted to get the hell out

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<v Speaker 1>of there and he got scammed in the head. There

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<v Speaker 1>was also a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>No, go ahead, I want to ask you a very

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<v Speaker 4>personal question for our listeners right here on Laughing Learnt,

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<v Speaker 4>and I want you to be very honest with me.

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<v Speaker 4>Bobby Clifford. As a white woman, how did that make

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<v Speaker 4>you feel? And I want you to tell me the

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<v Speaker 4>raw emotion, because I'm going to tell you how it

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<v Speaker 4>made me feel as a black person.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I first had trouble filtering it. I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pass out in the beginning because the pieces

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<v Speaker 1>are so jumbled. I was trying to figure out is

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<v Speaker 1>this racism or is a privilege? And when I say privilege,

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>the black man take away that he was black, that

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<v Speaker 1>he let's say he was a white man that was

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<v Speaker 1>a co captain that told this guy. I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out if the guy just didn't like anybody

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>telling him what to do and where to park his

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<v Speaker 1>boat or or and or was it because he was black?

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 1>And so I was trying to figure out what because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the initial guy when they were just

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<v Speaker 1>screaming at each other.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about those people with that kid with that

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 4>man keeping with the chair. Yes, how did that make

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<v Speaker 4>you feel about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Not good?

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<v Speaker 4>That? Oh?

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead? I thought that I felt like that the

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<v Speaker 1>chair hitter, I thought he was racist. I thought the

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>kid who jumped in when the two people were yelling.

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I still can't tell if that was racist. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell if that guy was just in a hole who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be told. But the young kid, when

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the young kid jumped in and hit the black man,

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:46.919
<v Speaker 1>he and he threw the hat off. First of all,

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>what the hell did he get invo Nobody invited you

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have to go to. My mother used to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to go to every argument that you're

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>invited to. Nobody even invited him. Those two were taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of it themselves and then get unfolded.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I love I love what you say. I

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<v Speaker 4>love that you said that you thought the black kid

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<v Speaker 4>with the chair was racist, because on the on the

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 4>exact opposite of that, I thought that I thought the

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<v Speaker 4>situation was a teach racist. But it was more to

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<v Speaker 4>me exactly what you said. It was privileged, and they

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<v Speaker 4>looked like they had been inebriated. They looked drunk, right,

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 4>so that escalates anything. But it was also in Montgomery, Alabama,

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 4>so it could have definitely could have been racism, and

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<v Speaker 4>definitely racism as a black person. I love that this

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<v Speaker 4>is my truth. I love that we were standing up,

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 4>standing up for ourselves and we were supporting you. But

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 4>as an American. It said me so much to think

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 4>that that is which way this fucking country is headed.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is my other truth. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>see us fighting with each other. I want to see

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 4>us loving on each other. The scariest part about us

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 4>having a race war or civil war is that our

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 4>enemies are waiting on us to be distracted fighting each

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<v Speaker 4>other so that they can move. And it won't matter

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 4>what we look like, identify ads, or nationality, We're gonna

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 4>all be the exact same thing. We're gonna all be

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 4>dead while we're fighting over fucking race and color. Stud Yeah,

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 4>and I've seen all the tear memes and everybody making

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 4>a jokes about it, and you know, I'm the biggest

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 4>prankster and jokes. I don't know if I found it funny, Bobby,

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 4>because I just hate when I see the writings on

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<v Speaker 4>the wall of how it makes us look as Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and I agree with that, and I feel I

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.439
<v Speaker 1>feel like I don't have enough angles. I think they

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>have twenty different people were filming it, and I know

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>order to make a really educated decision or give a

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>really true opinion on it, I feel like I need

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>to see all of those angles. So a perfect for instance,

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>was in the beginning. So the young kid jumps in,

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and then you have two more white guys. I don't

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>know if they're young, because all these films are they're blurry,

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>so I can't get a good look at them. I

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know if they were just a bunch of more

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>junk people on people jumping in. And then a woman

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 1>who has a mint green cover up gets in and

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>what she was doing so far, I've seen three different angles.

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>She had the kid that initially was the aggressor that

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>hit the black man. First she had him by the

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>hair of the head and she was trying to get

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 1>him off of the man. Then somebody came in instead

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of beating the shit out of her, and to excuse

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>my language, everybody but she went. I don't think they

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>realized that she was trying to help. She jumped off

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the boat. Now it could have been her kid. She

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>could have been screaming at him like what that was right,

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, because that's what I would have been, killing

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>my kid. But she was trying to get him off

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and drag him, and somebody come inside of punch him

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>one side of her head. Then someone got her from

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the behind and was punching it from behind, and all

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>she was trying to do was break up the fight.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's funny none of us won with that, because

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 4>that really shows you where we are hit where we

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<v Speaker 4>are in America. But it will be interesting to see

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 4>down the pipelines, how the how the crimes UH dealt

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<v Speaker 4>with in court because a lot of people, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be very interesting to see so many people

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 4>who did some of the same things if they get

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 4>the same charges. I just want to see that.

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>But that's what they're going to have to parse out.

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>So in my opinion, I think that the kid and

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>he seemed young, he seemed like a kid, because I

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>don't think it was he was well thought out, and

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know he was running on adrenaline adrenaline, I

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he was running on alcohol as well.

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>But the kid with the chair, I think is going

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to do worse out of everybody, because, as I said,

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>these people weren't threats. If they were threats, then he

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>would have something to lean back on, right, he'd say

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>they were coming at me. But that lady in the

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>red cover up, she looked she looks like white, like Alabamas.

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else. Hey, I'm up in the

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<v Speaker 1>so we just don't look like it because she was loaded.

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>She seemed like she was loaded, and she was, but

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>she was literally down kind of dazed already. And what

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>he really came down on her hand with that chair.

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.959
<v Speaker 1>And even then the clip of the film, I saw

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the person who got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Good.

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:16.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, he's going to jail, you know, because

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't if she was coming at him, different story.

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>So I have a feeling he's going to do the

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>worst only because he had like a if you want

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:27.959
<v Speaker 1>to call that a weapon, I don't know. If there

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>were other people that had chairs, I don't. I'm still

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to tease it out, and I'm got to be honest,

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>it makes me sick to my stomach as I'm doing it,

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>because I don't like violence to begin with. I think

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I would have liked to have seen the co captain

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<v Speaker 1>and the initial guy figure out how they were going

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to resolve back to begin with, because I don't think

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>other than that young kid jumping them, I don't know

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>if we would have had any violence at all if they.

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 4>Just look the screens at each other, whether the boat

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 4>get an interview or believe it was with Ricky Smiley,

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 4>and he was very forthcoming. He was very forthcoming, and

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 4>he said that the the Kokebin, the big black guy

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 4>had asked him nicely. He kept asking them nicely, and

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 4>then he just went to move their boat, maybe like

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 4>four inches or four feet he had to do so

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 4>they could part, and the guy just came after him.

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<v Speaker 4>It is, It is very tragic all the way around.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna wait to see what had to unposed, right,

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you, America, we got to stop this while

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 4>we distracted fighting each other. Y'all know they.

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Waited yet, And you're exactly right. There's too many there's

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.479
<v Speaker 1>too many other things, and we're talking look at this.

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>We have people who are still in poverty. We have

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>an ex president who's being indicted, and what are we

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about the melee in Alabama? Like we're not even

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about something that that's important. But I think if

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>those two initial people had gone at it, that might

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>have been a punch or two, like some fisticuffs, but

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>there would not have been the literal brawl. And with

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>women getting involved, I know, and I know that sexist

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>to say that, but that even made me more sick

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>seeing the women fighting each other.

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<v Speaker 4>I doubt it was like, Bobby, you are I really?

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I can't stand it. That really that really

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of turns my stomach. I thought we have got

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>to be doing better than this. This is absolutely ridiculous.

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm telling Bobby, I'm I'm a human. Every emotion

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 4>came over me as a different nationality, but then as

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 4>an American. This is tragic for us. This is so

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 4>sad for us. But we have let somebody speaking the

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 4>bad and continue to divide us when we're Americans and

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 4>we keep getting and we want to get American. What

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 4>is America a melting client? Is then that what they

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 4>say keep everywhere? Yeah, and how do you think one

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 4>person dominated if people came from everywhere to make America?

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, it's just okay, let me stop. I'm

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 4>getting deep. Where we're going, Bobby, where we're going?

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what we should be talking about, and it's

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>just to mention is when it has me so sad,

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure you as well as things that are

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>important that we should be trying to figure out. What

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna do with the poor people in Hawaii?

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, with the hurricane door and the.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Low Waii on the Bobby, I say, I saw it

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 4>on the World News earlier, and they has wiped out

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 4>beautiful neighborhoods right on the ocean. And people always say, well,

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 4>they got money, it can recover. Insurance don't give you

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 4>back memories. Insurance don't give you back blankets that your

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 4>great grandmother made for you and pictures in the Yeah,

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. I thought it was so tragic. And

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 4>one man was on his Hawaiian guy and he was

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 4>he looked broken age, you know, Hawaiian Asian guy, and

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 4>pain is pain. I don't care about no color. I

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 4>could feel his pain. And he said he lost everything

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 4>and his neighbors lost everything. Oh my god, it's just

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 4>it was so tragic, Bobby, that is so sad. It is.

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>And you don't get back the landscape. You don't get

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>back the paradise flame. You know, it will take hundreds

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>of years. So how many generations are going to miss

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>what the beauty of Hawaii actually was. I've never been yet.

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been dying to go to Hawaii. It's just something.

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a great flyer, so for coming from Boston,

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a huge flight so I was kind of building

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>up my nerve to do it. But you're not going

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to get that. They had somebody who that was on

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the news that I thought and it touched me. They

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>were staying at the Marriott and the kids wanted snacks.

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>So he walked down and he was ex military, so

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>he had a little bit of knowledge with smoke and stuff,

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and he walked down to get the kids snacks and

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>get back to the hotel, he says, and he could

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>see the smoke ish changing color and he said, I

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>better get back. He hasn't seen his family since and

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>it's no communication. He can't get back to where Marriott

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.760
<v Speaker 1>is and his three kids, wife, mother in law, everybody.

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:43.479
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know if they're alive or if they're dead.

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>And he's talking from his point of view. If they're alive.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>They don't know if he's alive or dead. He went

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>out with the snacks, right, So, I mean, I just

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the track. Those are the things we should be talking about.

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Not so I'm picking up a chair and everybody thinks

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>that's hysterical, because I got to be honest, be a

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>big partty pooper. But I don't think that's funny. I'm

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>laughing over that party.

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 4>And I'm with you by that. I have not I

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 4>have yet to go to Hawaii, but it's paradise and

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 4>everybody says, so you're right. You lose all the landscape.

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 4>And these fires are crazy when you look at it.

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 4>They're everywhere that's smoking so thick. You have to think

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 4>about the people who have breathing issues and a lot

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of elderly in Hawaii.

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. And even just some of those plants

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, I can't even imagine what. Yeah, so that

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>was low commodity mixed with a hurricane, and hurricane is

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>very different. So it carried just a spark, It carried

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>it right up and lit everything up on fire. But

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's another tragedy, and we talked about it

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>on coffee time this week and I haven't done a

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of research with it, but what did you think

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>about that little six year olds that brought the gun in? No,

0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 1>no gun safe in the house, no triggers, trigger if

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the trigger guard on the on the weapon

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and shot his I guess now it's his first it's

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 1>either as kindergotten teacher or his first grade teacher. Isn't

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>that I found that.

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm more offended. I think I'm more offended.

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 4>And he said, yeah, I shot that bitch or something

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 4>like that. They said, and then and then I watched

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 4>the news and they had the nerve to say that

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 4>he had a history of bad behavior. I'm like, he's

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 4>six a history of bad behavior?

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>He did the year before. I guess he tried to

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.800
<v Speaker 1>choke a choke a another student.

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Bobby, here's my question as a teacher or not only

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 4>the house, as a teacher or administrator, or if you

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 4>see this, you have to know that something is happening.

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Y'all should have been investigating what is going on with

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 4>this kid?

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>But they could have. You know, we don't know. Unfortunately,

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:57.959
<v Speaker 1>they don't give us that right. So so the news

0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>is great at giving us the clock bait and giving

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>us the punchline, right, you know, you know a joke,

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.439
<v Speaker 1>you've got to build up to it, But they don't

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>give you the whole story. They don't give you the

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>build up. So my guess, if they said there was

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a history with this kid, I'm sure that something was

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>going on. It's how they knew to get into that

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:12.919
<v Speaker 1>house to see if there was a gun safe. Right,

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>we're probably failing them because we just talked about doing service.

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>People also don't want to go into social service. They

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want to go into all these areas that we

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>need to keep, you know, our community safe. People don't

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>like those jobs. Those jobs don't pay a lot, they're

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>not sexy. So you know, I am praying for that

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>kid because it's six year old. If he's like this

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's boasting about shooting the bee and he gotter

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like it was some sort of thrill, there is something

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that has to be going in with that household, and

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I hope it's accountable.

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 4>I think I was more baffled back history. I'm like, kind,

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.439
<v Speaker 4>he's only six, what kind of history you have? Because

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 4>you just got out of Pamphus This thing why I'm

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 4>talking about parents and governing. Yeah, you got a baby,

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 4>who's watching it, who's raised, who's teaching it, who's showing it?

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 4>Because apparently this kid, what he has been seeing is

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 4>you should be my age to witness shit.

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I know. I mean, I'm sure Jeffrey Dahma had had

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>a history, right, but at some point, I don't know,

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't know was a hill on the animals in

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood, you know, like somebody's And then I'm just saying,

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>that's his child. I want anyone to think I'm alluding

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to that's what's going on with him. But let's make

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>sure it doesn't happen. Let's get him so he doesn't

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>fall to the cracks and explain what was wrong. Is

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 1>he playing horrible violent video games at six that he

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be touching, And that's where the verbiage is coming from.

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know you can't of have those be your

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>babysitter either. You've got to actually be involved with the kid.

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm saying that nice sound judgy. His mother might

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>work three jobs because she's trying to keep the house together,

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>so you know, she's not able to spend as much time.

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is, but I think.

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.399
<v Speaker 4>Its mother, because we don't know who's right who.

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>We don't, but it takes a village, and his village

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>needs to surround him.

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 4>And his village is a little too gangster for me.

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Something right, absolutely, something I'm trying to look here. They

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>had the oh you know what, I want to take

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a mention back in business, I noted the agenda item

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the two Tennessee raps that were expelled back in April

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>for protesting gun safety are they both won their seats back.

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 1>So at Justin Jones twenty seven, I love that these

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>kids are their kids right, and they're actually getting involved.

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>They're doing what we're talking about. They're doing service and

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>giving back to the community. And Justin Pearson, they both

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 1>want to They.

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 4>Wanted yeah, and they want that seats back unanimously. I

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 4>also want to touch on Bobby Clifford. I want to

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 4>thank the FBI publicly for doing the great job this

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 4>week of taking down the man that was trying to

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 4>take down our president of the United States with Bill Biden.

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 4>His name was Craig Robinson. And what the funny part

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 4>about that is there's a comedian named Craig Robinson who's

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 4>our free I called him. I said, dude, are you

0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 4>trying to mess up my president? And we laughed. But

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad that the FBI took him out. If it

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 4>sends a warning, a clear warning that this is not

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 4>what we're having in this country, leave the president alone

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 4>and just live your life. Thank you FBI for doing

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 4>what you need to do. I didn't want to hear

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 4>any more arrested without incident. Thank you for taking him

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 4>where he needed to go.

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>He did. I mean, he was an older just the

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>carelessness and being on social media.

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Here his quote was that he was going to dig

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>out his old gilly suit, clean the dust off the

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>M twenty four sniper sniper sniper God say that ton

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>times fast rifle and welcome the buffoon in chief. You

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>can't put that on social media, sir. So he was

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the opposite of being.

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 4>On That is what I was saying about Alabama. That

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 4>is that is so many different people's mindset here in

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 4>this country. We are so separated. It's so scary.

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>It is scary. But they went to serve him with

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>a with a warrant, and I don't know, you know,

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot of detail about what happened,

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>but I'm thinking, sweet Mary, he must have or he

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>answered the door with a gun and probably said gone

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and he lifted it instead of put it down. Or well,

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll have more. There'll be more that will that will

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of unfold with that too, but.

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 4>It'll be more from the story. But it won't be

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 4>no more from his story because he ain't got no

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 4>more stories to tell.

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and was it worth it? I hope if he's

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>up in heaven or if he's down in the other way,

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was it worth it? Not so much. They have the

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 1>go o p that that Iowa State Fair and and

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that Ronda Santis was heckled off the stage.

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.720
<v Speaker 1>He didn't do so well with the Iowa folk.

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 4>I love that. That tickled the hell out of you.

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Bobby h Well, you know that's that's not that's not

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 4>his forte. But you know that's you know, that debating

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 4>and you know Trump is Trump gonna do his thing.

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 4>But Trump will not sign that beat Joe Biden paper.

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:55.240
<v Speaker 4>He won't sign that.

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:59.479
<v Speaker 3>The beat the BEATU the pledge, the loyalty preedge, which

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 3>which is it's a commitment, it's a commitment back to

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 3>the to the to whoever the other Republican nominee will be.

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 3>So if he doesn't win that he will support and back.

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Which is what we're all supposed to do, right. So,

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you know we talked about Biden. Biden is an older guy.

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>We didn't necessarily he wasn't necessarily our first choice. I

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>liked him for everything that he could do, but I

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 1>was a little worried about his age. But but everybody

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.800
<v Speaker 1>look at Bernie Sanders. He might have he might have

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 1>been second elemon, but he got behind him and he

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>backed him because he knew that's what we needed, the

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the we needed a choice other than Trump, and it

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:35.399
<v Speaker 1>was really a beat Trump at that point.

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 4>But well he kind of well I don't know why

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 4>people are surprised that he didn't sign it when he lost.

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 4>He didn't even concede.

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's exactly so you think he's going to support

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody else. You know, he had a comment that you

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 1>know there are three or four people that he would

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>never even consider having in in the White House. Well,

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>they only have like five candidates, it's to him, So

0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to support four of them. But you know,

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>he's the only one that's like he's he's like the

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>little kid they stole as marbles. And so he went home.

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 4>I believe that his arrogance will let him allow him

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 4>to run as president and vice president because that's who

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 4>he believes he is. And I love to his supporters

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:16.720
<v Speaker 4>keep donating to stop to steal as though Joe Biden

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 4>had been a president for four years. Oh yeah, we're

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 4>about to overturn it out y'all just keep sending y'all

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 4>full of money. He needs it, honey, he needs it,

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 4>He needs it, he needs it. I don't know what

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 4>he is going to do because these charges keep coming

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.280
<v Speaker 4>up and it's just keep threatening him not to speak.

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 4>But the strategic part that I admire about Donald Trump

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 4>on this is that he keeps taking this narrative to

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.879
<v Speaker 4>control it his way. He is pushing this train and

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 4>driving it when we're supposed to be putting him somewhere else.

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 4>He is pushing the narrative that he wants. That is

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 4>so savvy.

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 1>To me, that's gangster. I mean, that's what I wish

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 1>that the Democrats would do that more. Especially need Now.

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I love you, and I know the way that you'd

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>like to run it, but the people need to hear

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.319
<v Speaker 1>how well you're doing. And I know you don't want

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to be a bragger, and President Obama didn't want to

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:09.399
<v Speaker 1>be one either. You just like to do the work,

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>keep your head down and keep pushing forward. But right now,

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the American people they need to hear it. They need

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to hear that the economy has been better than it

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>has been and X days inflation is on its way down,

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 1>job growth has never been so much. We have the

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>chip sacked in now. He just recently, I think this

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>week put in some sort of artificial intelligence guidelines are

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>rules on that they don't want work going out to

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 1>China and they don't work want plans or anything. They

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>want to keep all that work here. They want to

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 1>restrict investments in Chinese artificial intelligence and instead put those

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 1>moneies into our own people, training our own people and

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>creating the products ourselves. So I think he's doing it.

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>But let's hear that, you know, because people think he's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at home. All everybody talks about is he does

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but take naps all day. Well, if for taken nap,

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<v Speaker 1>so imagine if he was awake, Jesus, he'd like the

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<v Speaker 1>world on ya.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he needs his nap because the other needed to

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<v Speaker 4>take a nap because he wasn't. Never talking about shit.

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<v Speaker 4>But oh wow, wow, Bobby, this has been a very

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<v Speaker 4>interesting episode, ladies, if you are listening to laugh Aline,

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<v Speaker 4>this week we have went on the ups and downs.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell you that as a as a trans person,

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<v Speaker 4>a black man, a dad, a single dad, two or three,

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<v Speaker 4>but as an American, I want all of us to win.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not anti anything else. I'm not anti white, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not anti Asian. Yes, I'm pro black because that's who

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<v Speaker 4>God made me. And I respect whatever nationality you are,

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<v Speaker 4>you should be pro that nationality. That doesn't make you

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<v Speaker 4>anti anything else. And what we have to stop doing

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<v Speaker 4>is thinking that all persons racist because we don't see color.

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<v Speaker 4>Unless you blind, you see color. But first, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 4>do you and do you see that person that we

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<v Speaker 4>came with. None of us were here but the indigenousy

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<v Speaker 4>we all came. We all business. When you visited somebody's house,

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<v Speaker 4>you're supposed to act polite. Were not acting polite, y'all?

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<v Speaker 4>We not acting polite.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think so either. Ooh, you're gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get his name right. I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>say the name. We always do the deaths of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had we lost our our slide writer.

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<v Speaker 4>From Chicago, my friend cast A Castle created cast slide.

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<v Speaker 4>What I knew about Castle. My friend Castle was fifty

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<v Speaker 4>eight years see battle to two different cans. They had

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<v Speaker 4>liver cancer and they had uh I think it was

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<v Speaker 4>Pan created Pan created cancer. It was whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 4>it was, it was horrible. He was the nicest man

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<v Speaker 4>by the cliftd. I've been knowing Casterer since nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 4>huh and.

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<v Speaker 1>Nursery.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and they He used to have shows all over

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<v Speaker 4>the city in Chicago, look contests one hundred dollars for

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<v Speaker 4>first prize at clubs called the Malibur and the Surf,

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<v Speaker 4>and these were clubs that were very trans girls and

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<v Speaker 4>drag queen and stuff like that. Would just you just

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't go because you just knew he was gonna get you.

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<v Speaker 4>He always made a safe space for us. Even back

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<v Speaker 4>then we were getting the contest. We became fan favorites.

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<v Speaker 4>They look forward to us, and they warmed up to

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<v Speaker 4>us because we allowed it to happen organically. We would

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<v Speaker 4>go and win and work with him. And it was

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<v Speaker 4>way before his time. This was eighty nine, eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was a great time. Bobby, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a very fair man. Prayers to his family,

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<v Speaker 4>Prayers to Chicago. And he left the legacy. Because maybe

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<v Speaker 4>everybody do the touchy slide. I heard y'all doing touch

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<v Speaker 4>us love the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want us to go and not mention them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing I wanted to mention, don't

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<v Speaker 1>be silly. Was did you hear that? DeSantis? Now you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have special permission from your parents to be

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<v Speaker 1>called a nickname.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we're not gonna even address that, because here, at

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<v Speaker 4>last alone, we are not trying to get you to

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<v Speaker 4>change your man. We are only trying to get you

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<v Speaker 4>to use your man. Why Bobby, because what?

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<v Speaker 1>Because a mind is a is a terrible thing to waste.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you heard what Bobby just said about Ron,

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<v Speaker 4>just stas that is a wasted man. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, the Lord is my shepherd. I shall

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<v Speaker 4>not want he is getting on my nerves. Not the Lord,

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<v Speaker 4>but the STIs my god, my god. The baffling card though,

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<v Speaker 4>Bobby is people listen to that? They buying into I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know where people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, this is why they're heckling him. Probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine you couldn't call your flame? I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be Bobby. You need to have permission from your mom. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of even. And That's what I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>instead of issues.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he needs to get permission from his mom.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the truth, right, we can't call him Ron Ronald

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<v Speaker 4>od look McDonald, Hey, you can follow by what can

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<v Speaker 4>we follow you at Bobby Clifford.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow me at Clifford Bobby on Instagram or

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<v Speaker 4>How about you follow me on flameber and everything except

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<v Speaker 4>for Instagram, It's at Munro Flame. I appreciate you, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>you send us some inboxes to teach us something, because

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 4>that it's what we do. We are organic people, and

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 4>energy is transferable, just like knowledge is transferrable. And you

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.759
<v Speaker 4>can teach me because I ain't too old to learn,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm damn show gonna teach you a trigger too,

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm damn show young enough to teach. And with

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<v Speaker 4>my lovely co host Bobby Cooper here and my partner

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<v Speaker 4>and my producer Aaron, we have a great time. We

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<v Speaker 4>hope not to ever offend, but to definitely definitely inspire.

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<v Speaker 4>Ain't that right? Bobby c Absolutely well, We appreciate you here.

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