1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: From actors to icons and everything in between. You're having 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: lunch with Bruce Bosie on Table for two. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: Everyone, it's Bruce Bosi. Thank you for joining me on 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Table for two. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: Today. 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: We're back in sunny southern California for another great lunch 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: at the Tower Bar. 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 3: Are we recording? 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Yep? 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 4: Now yeah, just kissed me fall on the lips. 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: I'm so excited for today's guest. 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: He grew up kind of down the street in Cypress, California, 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: and is one of. 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: The nicest guys in Hollywood. 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 2: He's been on huge TV shows, acted on Broadway, and 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: even as an occasional beach boy. Now he's written a 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: book about his life called If You Would Have Told 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: Me And If That's not enough. 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: He also has a great head of hair. What are 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: you in the mood for? 21 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: Food wise? 22 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Eat with that body beat out. 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 4: It's good. 24 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: Huh. 25 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: So pull up a chair, grab a bite to eat, 26 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: because we're having lunch with John Stamos. 27 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: I'm Bruce Bosi and this is my podcast Table for two. 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: So if you've pulled up a chair today, we're sitting 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: at the Tower Bar. I have two surprises for John today, 30 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: just so you know. One based on your book, okay, 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: and one based on our experience together. And when we 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: left the West dollar Wood Palm, all the pictures were 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: taken down and gave them to. 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: But by the way, one of the great honors to 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: have my picture up in the poll. And I used 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: to just take people in there actually, you know, and 37 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: they knew what seat my picture was under, so they'd 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: always set me there and I'd be like, oh, well, 39 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: look at this is. 40 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: The picture be up there. 41 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: So when we left we gave them out. I framed 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: them as art and you said, you hold on to mine. 43 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: And what I did was when we opened the Beverley 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: there was very few. We didn't put them back up right, 45 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: so we put like fair Foscet and the majors up. 46 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: They had one out, Andy Cohen had. 47 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: Cohen and Frank Sinatra with. We put Valerie Harper with 48 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: Sammy Davis Junior. We put I don't know that many, 49 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: don no, there was like only five I got was yours. 50 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: I know, you guys can't see it if you're pulling 51 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: up a chair, but it's framed. 52 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: It's cut from like you actually see the wall that 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 3: it was on. 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: That's not Scott Bail because. 55 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 3: No it's not. This is free. 56 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. I thought it got lost. 57 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: And now I kept it was hung in my house. 58 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to see it. And he's taking art 59 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: off my wall. 60 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: So I opened the book. You asked me why why now? 61 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: And if you know Jamie the Curtis, you know she's 62 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: a good friend. She alway says, if not now when, 63 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: which always makes me think about getting doing things that 64 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: you got just that you want to do, right. 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: I never thought about writing a book. I wasn't. It 66 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 4: was the last thing on my mind. 67 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: I never thought I could could do you ever think 68 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: about writing a book? 69 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: It's like, it's funny you should say that. That was like 70 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: someone approached like, would you be interested? I mean, I 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: don't know how to do that. I couldn't. 72 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: And I think your life is just as interesting as 73 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: as mine, if not more. But you for sure have 74 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: a book in you. Everybody does, but you have a 75 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: good one. But it was the It was the. 76 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: Hardest thing I've ever done, pretty much. 77 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: But as you as you can see in the book, 78 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: like I I never put obstacles up in front of 79 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: things that I wanted to get done. I didn't want 80 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: to do this until I did it, but I just 81 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: did it. I never thought it was at I can't, 82 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, So I just started and at first I 83 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: kept saying no, and then you know, it was a dad. 84 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: And then Bob died and they saw an obituary that 85 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: I wrote in the La Times about Bob, and I 86 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: felt that it was a good writing, and I don't 87 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, it was so you know, broken up it was. 88 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't even remember writing it, but apparently it was 89 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: good and. 90 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: And the and the most beautiful moth. I'll talk about 91 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: Bob a lot, probably today, and I'll probably cry at 92 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: least twice. 93 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: But his his Uh Kelly, his widow, and I hate 94 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: say that. Uh called me the other day crying and 95 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: she said, you did such justice to Bob. And the 96 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: people that don't know Bob and they read this book. 97 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: It's a great representation of who he was because it 98 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: was a complicated man, but he was beautiful. 99 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 100 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: So I so I said, okay, I'll do that, And 101 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: so I thought, I'm going to start with the two 102 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: hardest chapters. The first chapter is when I was on 103 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: my way to meet Bob at the Palm that faithful night, 104 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: when I got a DUI easily the lowest point of 105 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: my life ever, and I could have killed somebody. 106 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: Bruce, Yeah, that's why you were. It's really vivid in 107 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 3: that chapter. 108 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: And I was, I was, I was circling that that area, 109 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: I must have passed. I just kept going in circles 110 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: and said, there's the same place again, the same part. Anyway, 111 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: I was going to meet Bob, so and my five 112 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: Stages of grief then was I mean, I got you know, 113 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: it's d u. I I ended up hospital because I 114 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: was so fucked up, and I when I straightened up 115 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: and they got me out of there, I went home 116 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: and drank another bottle of wine. So my five Stages 117 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: of Grief with more booze, sex, everything bad. Right then 118 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: I tackled the last chapter, so I didn't know if 119 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: it was gonna be the last chapter. 120 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: I didn't know. 121 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: Where about the day I found out about Bob when 122 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: he died, and pretty much in detail in that Five 123 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Stages of Grief. Then wore health, sobriety, therapy, my family, 124 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: my wife, yeah, med station. 125 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 126 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: So then I had to feel like, okay, how did 127 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: I get from me to zeke? And it was And 128 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: then the other big part was my mom's letters the 129 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: notes for my mother. I knew I had them, so 130 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: but I gathered them all up from my sister and 131 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: my sister's in my attic and I just kind of 132 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: laid him out and said, Okay, here's a road. 133 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 4: Here's a road. 134 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: Is that interesting? 135 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 4: I bet you could do it. You just sit down. 136 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: And I asked so many friends that were writing books, 137 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: how do you do it? 138 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: Out of time? 139 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: At first I was doing it. I do like a 140 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: vomit chapter. And at first I was like, I'm gonna 141 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: write a hero story. 142 00:05:59,480 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 4: How great. 143 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: I I was like, nah, man, this is I have 144 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: to write a human story. And then I got into it, 145 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: maybe the last four or five months of doing it, 146 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: especially when I knew that deadline was coming up. My 147 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: friend saying, you're pretty relaxed for having a deadline. I'm 148 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: like yeah, and I just started to stand up on it. 149 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: But there's a certain I mean, your ability to write. 150 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: So I mean, would you just when you sat down 151 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: at your desk, were you like focused in on like 152 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: So now I'm going to talk about the I'm going 153 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: to talk about the audition process for General Hospitals. John's 154 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: next gift. You might want to explain what this is 155 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: it's a yellow bandana. 156 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 4: And I I'm gonna try it. 157 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like the first time I 158 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: ever I remember this story and told the story was 159 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: last time we had lines? 160 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 4: Well, I remember I was when I auditioned for General Hospital. 161 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: I know you and you know who loves black General Hospitals, 162 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: your boy Andy oh love. 163 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: Talking about we all who didn't love Blackie? 164 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 4: I don't know. 165 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: I mean I was watching Blackie Jackie Templeton, I was 166 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: g I had the ABC line on it. 167 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: Were you in New York and I was in New York? 168 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: And then post g H you had Lori's Lachlan who 169 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: was on it? Yeah? 170 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: Ed and I thirty That was the thirty minute one 171 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: that like wrapped up the day four. 172 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: And then four one age? 173 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: Did you and he used to call each other and 174 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: say we didn't know each other that I know people 175 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: were rearranged. 176 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 4: I didn't know about the pup I was. 177 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: So I hope that comes across how naive I was 178 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: through all most and I think my naivete helped me 179 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: in the long run. But so I was when I 180 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: was audition for General Hospitals. It was for part A 181 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: street punk Black Parish. Yeah, street, and I was like, 182 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: what's that. I went to the library and looked up 183 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: the street. Urchin I'd never. 184 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: Been to New York. 185 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: Southern California. 186 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, like souning in my hair, and I was like, what, 187 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: what's New York to me? And and I knew that. 188 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: So this other guy was auditioning, Brian Robbins, who was 189 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: from New York ends up now being the head of Paramount, right, 190 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: but he was very New York. He's like yo, I'm like, 191 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: oh shit, I got to and I love travolt To 192 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: then and I still do it. And then the first 193 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: set I ever stepped foot on was the Seth Greece 194 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: at my father. His friend was a coach there, but 195 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: I was mainly looking at Saturday a fever at that 196 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: time because he. 197 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: Had this walking on the say you and I need 198 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: to walk. So I went and I drove around up here. 199 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: It was before the audition, and I was driving on 200 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: these streets and again I'm like so naive, I'm just eighteen, 201 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: but I'm up, I'm fourteen, right, And I find a 202 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: street over there, Santa Monica Boulevard, and I thought, this 203 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: looks kind of New York. 204 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: I look, there's a place called Rage. 205 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: I got to get my rage up for this character 206 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: park try to park there a terrible parker. 207 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: And I get and I and I needed. I needed 208 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: like a leather jacket. 209 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: My mom had this, you know, sort of full up, 210 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: like this big puffy, long letter jacket. I walk out 211 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm working on my walk up and down 212 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: Santa Monica sat up a boulevard for those folks at 213 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: playing at home. It's Boystown, right, it's a Boystown. And 214 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of bars and everybody's outside and I'm 215 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: walking was like, well, there's a lot of men around. 216 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 4: In fact, it's all okay good. 217 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: And somebody who you know, get a girl, my girl, Okay, 218 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: I'll take the con. And I'm literally walked working on 219 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: my walk, like and I look like a fucking weirdo 220 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: with faster, slower, tighter ass. 221 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: And so then I go. 222 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: Then I was thinking, Chochi man, he's from New York, 223 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: I think, and I need a band He used to 224 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: have bandana time around his thigh and. 225 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: That's what I'm wearing now. 226 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: The Bruce brought me and so I went into this 227 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: one of the stores. 228 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: There's a lot of a lot of bandana. 229 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: Starts a lot of band It took me two seconds 230 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: to get there. 231 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: Literally two days here they and so I got this 232 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: band and the guy was super sweat because you're in luck, 233 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, with every bandanna and you get a free 234 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: massage today. 235 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: I said, thank you, sir, I'll come back. 236 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: You know, I've got an audition for general free massage. 237 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 3: Right. 238 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 4: I loved it and I found it all very flattered. 239 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: So I walk in and I was working doing my 240 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: walk to the audition of Marvin Page was the casting director. 241 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: That's another guy name is Skitch Hendricks, and I remember 242 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: him because I think I don't know if anyone can 243 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: confirm it out that he had a fake hand, a 244 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: rubber fake hand, okay, and it was and there was 245 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: like a cigarette and he was kind of a you know, 246 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: cud of pricky and he was I would start just 247 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: like stop, stop to stop moving around something like I 248 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: was doing my walking. 249 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: Just stand still and save the lines. Fuck, I wasted 250 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 4: my time. 251 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: I got a banda and then I keep going and 252 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: then he goes, uh, I'll stop sp what he goes 253 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,479 Speaker 1: you like to be Pete. 254 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: On from Morris County. We don't know about that. 255 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: I go, what do you mean, He goes, well, you're 256 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: wearing a yellow bandana. That that means you like to 257 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: be pete on. Oh Jesus, this Hollywood ship. And I 258 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: don't know if I can take it. And I walked out. 259 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: I kind of bombed me. I thought I tanked the audition. 260 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: I walked out the bright sun. I was like, go ahead, Hollywood, 261 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: piss on me. And ended up getting a job. 262 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: And you at the jump. 263 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: You know what I found so interesting about And I'm 264 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: gonna li liken this to your upbringing with your mom 265 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: and your dad. 266 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: You obviously were super just it's a love story. It's 267 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: a love story. 268 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: Met my mom and it's palm. 269 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: I think, so yep, yep, yep. 270 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: And I also think that the fact that your dad 271 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: had you work in the kitchen, that it teaches you something. 272 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I think everyone should work in hospitality. 273 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: So like here you are on the set of g 274 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: H and you, you know, miss Monty, Gloria Monty. You 275 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: start talking when you start talking about the people, at 276 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: the level of respect you have like you were a 277 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: young guy, and gratitude you have for being in that room. Yes, 278 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: that I think comes from obviously from your parents and 279 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: your working I'm like working in the kitchen. 280 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 4: Old were you when you started? 281 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: I think my first summer job with them was sixteen seventeen. 282 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: My dad treated the bus boys with the same as 283 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: he treated his best customer. 284 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: When you write that line, that resonated so with me. 285 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's the one thing that if you are 286 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: in hospitality, you do it right. 287 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: That's yeah. 288 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: I've seen you at your place talking to the waiters 289 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: and the bus boys. 290 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you do the same. 291 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you do the same, but we don't 292 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: do it out of oh it's our job now, Like 293 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: I care about people, and so are you, right, So 294 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: unless they're an asshole, where you're going to get. 295 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: Full by full attention, right, and you could go exactly 296 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: so those two years, you know, and then I mean, look, 297 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: you talked very candidly about like kind of what a 298 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: douche Rick Springfield was at the time, who was like 299 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: hitting it up. 300 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: He didn't clearly work. 301 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: Right right, right, you know, hospitality is this like here 302 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: you were a young buck, like being like, you know, impressed, and. 303 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've I felt I didn't want to 304 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: put anybody down in the book because that's just not 305 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: my thing, and you know I could have, but I 306 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: think with him, like everything in this book. Here's Here's 307 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: the other thing I want to say is like as 308 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: I started writing it, that's when I discovered my story, 309 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: Like I didn't know what my story was, and writing 310 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: it down and then oh wow, and looking back at 311 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: things like like for instance, at the General Hospital, when 312 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, the black storylines were a lot less than 313 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: the than the white people's storylines. And I remember these 314 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: great actors, Todd Phillips's name was, and you know they're 315 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: always complaining. 316 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you guys complaining about? We're on TV. 317 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 4: You don't get it standads, you know. 318 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: And then Sammy Days came in and they had a 319 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: big story. Then then when he left it wasn't And 320 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: I believe I said, double chi. I know I wrote 321 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: it though, that they would have to get their hair 322 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: and makeup somewhere else, and so I but I didn't 323 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: I didn't understand. I knew there was something wrong. I 324 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: know it wasn't right, but I didn't. So looking back, 325 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: I go, oh, I don't know that was there. And 326 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: there was a lot of those moments in the book. 327 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: That I discovered. But we were talking. 328 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: About so when you are when you're when you sit 329 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 2: down to write, you like. 330 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: Literally, do you not know what you're about to write? 331 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: Are you're like okay? 332 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: Or do you wake up in the the night going 333 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: wait a minute, you are you taking notes saying like wait, 334 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: I remember something? 335 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: Because how do you? 336 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: I couldn't remember. I feel like I can't remember my life? 337 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: But did you a blur? But if you sat down 338 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: and you remember, here's the deal. My mom and then 339 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: I subsequently me, I took so she had I had 340 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: all boxes and my mom kept everything, every contract, every calendar, 341 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: every journal that I had, every note, every every picture, 342 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: every Tiger magazine it was. And so I was like 343 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: I have to write, you know. I remember saying like, Mom, 344 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: let's get rid of the shock. 345 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: Why do you have it? 346 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: No? 347 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: Right? And so that helped a lot. I mean, I'll 348 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: have a memory about something like General Hospital, for instance. 349 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: I was like I used to always say, all I 350 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: auditioned on a Tuesday and then I got a call 351 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: back on Wednesday, and I worked on Thursday and it 352 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: aired two weeks there. 353 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 4: I went to the calendar, that's the exact gates. 354 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: Wow. 355 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: So there was a lot of. 356 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: That there was a lot of I think I did 357 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: some journaling, but mostly I wrote stuff on my calendars. 358 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: And not only that, I wrote, like, you know, I 359 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: would draw pictures of if I was happy or sad, 360 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: how my eyes were. 361 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: I thing. 362 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: You know, these are priceless things for you to have, 363 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: and they also for you to pass on. 364 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: To your son, And that's part of the writing a 365 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: book too for him. But I know those questions you're asking, 366 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: because I asked the same thing to my friends, like 367 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: how do you even? But the memories came back, and 368 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: like I said, I had the and I went and 369 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: talked to a lot of people, and people remembered stuff. 370 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: But you'd be surprised at what, oh the people that 371 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: you were working with on the show and things like that. Yeah, 372 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: you start to like sort of reminisce and you bring 373 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: it back and you go, oh, yeah. 374 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean one of the funny one of the things 375 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: about that came to me too then was like did 376 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: I had this when I went from And you probably 377 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: had this too. 378 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: I don't know what you were like as a kid, 379 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: probably handsome. 380 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: I was not, And so that transition from being a 381 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: caterpillar to a butterfly was really I wanted to really 382 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: focus on that. 383 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: You did I didn't. 384 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: I found that like really like you, I mean you 385 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: you depict yourself so sort of like like not as 386 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: handsome as you are now and kind of nerdy but 387 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: kind of not and you know, wanting the girls and 388 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: then like the. 389 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: Boy, you know what I mean. 390 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: And then when it happens, it was such a trick. 391 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: But I had a bully before it was even great bullying, Right, 392 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: this guy gave me a black guy and we had 393 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: no words, right, and I did that happen? 394 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: No, you probably bullied you. 395 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: I was bullied you. Yeah, for gay. They could read gay, 396 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: kids could read gay. 397 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: I'm gay and there was no no. 398 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: I learned how to hide. 399 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that that when you got started lifting weights. 400 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no much later that was all Vanni. That 401 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: was to get the guy too. 402 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: The so this guy popped. 403 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: So it was one of the first times because I 404 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: just wanted to be liked and I wanted who doesn't 405 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: I thank god there's no social media, I know. 406 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: Would you just want to be. 407 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Liked and you wanted people to think your cool and 408 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: nice everything, and they didn't. As far as I was 409 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: could feel, I was goofy and I did magic and puppets. 410 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: And I love you. You would have been, you know, 411 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: into puppets. That would have been your career. 412 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have, all right, I still might, I mean, 413 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, And so I was. So it was that. 414 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 4: And there was a girl who the hottest girl. She 415 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 4: went to a Catholic school. 416 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: And I heard when from one of the guys in 417 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: my in the marching band that she wanted to go. 418 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: Out with me. 419 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: She thought I was cute Mark, but said, don't tell anybody. 420 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: I told everybody, and I was at this block party, 421 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: and of course I was at the door of your 422 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: house party. 423 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: And then at the end of the jocks. 424 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: So the boyfriend of this girl who wanted to go out, 425 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: so I tell everybody, like a telephonic game of telephone 426 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: went from the house house house. 427 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: It's like you know in the movie Grease was knocked up. 428 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah I was, and then he came in and tried 429 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: to knock me out. I wasn't even pants. I was 430 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: in sitting in a car and sucker punch. I wanted 431 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: to dedicate the book to this guy because I don't 432 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: know if we'd be here right, I don't. 433 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: Know if you said that I wanted to thank you, man. 434 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to to every every plot, everything, every. 435 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 4: Goal I reached, like TV beach boys. 436 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: I thought of him, I really yeah, do you know 437 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: anything about him? 438 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: No, he is. I had to change his name. But 439 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll read this book, because I'm 440 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: not sure if you could read. 441 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 442 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 1: I think he's around, you know, But I would, And 443 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: then I talk about like I would go back. A 444 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: lot has happened, water on the bridge, four years ago, 445 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: whatever longer, But I would, you know, like a phantom 446 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: limb if you lose it. I'm always thinking I'd like 447 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: to go to him and say, hey, thank you. I mean, 448 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: you really pushed me to be who I am, and 449 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: I always you know, maybe it was not the most positive, 450 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: but I thought about you and I wanted to, you know, 451 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to really make it just to show you and. 452 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: So thank you. 453 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: But I think that then I'd. 454 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: Say, but I dated that girl for two years and 455 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: she told me how a tiny So I'll see you later. 456 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: You said that, so you must be you know it's big. 457 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 3: Well is it big? 458 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: You're gonna have to ask others. We'll take the large 459 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: pepper shake. I need to show Bruce pepper Mill, you 460 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: know this big long this is not this is. 461 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: This is that, dude, this is the guy that colocks you. 462 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on Table for two. John Stamos 463 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: is so youthful. It's hard to believe that he's been 464 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: in Hollywood for over four decades. When you started acting 465 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: as a teenager, you have to learn the ropes as 466 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: you go along. And I'm interested to know those early 467 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: years on GH General Hospital. 468 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 3: How did that affect his career, his life? Who he 469 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: became One of the things. 470 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: You know, when you were on GH with Sammy Davis 471 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: Junior and who you wanted to play drums? That's Elizabeth 472 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: Taylor's in your sightline. You're like, who's that old lady? 473 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: I mean, these are the things. 474 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: I forgot about Dolin. 475 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: I mean that's like, those are great nuggets of information. 476 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: And you say you just love going to work. I 477 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: love it. 478 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, they had that. 479 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: They're like, you have to go home, mom, there was 480 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: a job your mom called time to go home. I 481 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: would stay and watch Jny Garrett was a was a 482 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: big flea. 483 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: Yeah he's in Amsterdam. But I got to write. 484 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: I sent a book to him and I wrote, you 485 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: know how much he influenced me. 486 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: But and then you know, these people don't realize them. 487 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: We're watching them, right. 488 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: I think he knew but he was so good man, 489 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: and I was like, why is he so good? And 490 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: he would take these pauses and for me, I thought 491 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: I had to fill up every space like this guy. 492 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: And he didn't lose any energy, but he would take 493 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: a beat and then come back. You're so powerful him 494 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: his eyes. He was so intense and but always kind 495 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: to me and always you know, I just have had 496 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: these mentors over the years, as I write about Jack Club, Bennet, Garry, Marshall, Rickles, 497 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: and I've always been sort of attracted to that older 498 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: gentleman vibe, you know, and and like I would just 499 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: want to learn everything I could from them. 500 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were like soaking it all in. 501 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: And I love that Sammy Davis, you wanted to play 502 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: drums and he did that. 503 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: They weren't Glory wasn't really taking requests, you know, And 504 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to play drums on the show, you know, 505 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: can I play music? But no, And Sammy Davis was 506 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: on him and my dad said, I said, Dad, it 507 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: was this guy's on today, Sammy Junior something Sammy, Yeah. 508 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 4: My dad really turned me onto the wrap pack. 509 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: You know. 510 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 4: We would argue who was better, Sinatra, Elements. I finally Kim. 511 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: We both listen, listened to El frank and then I said, oh, 512 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: you're right, Dawn Man. That Franklin school. What do you 513 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: think of else? He was old school right, so did so. 514 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: He said, we'll talk to talk to Sam and Davis 515 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: about playing drums. He's a drummer standing next to mister 516 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: Davis Junior. They won't let me play drums on it. 517 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: But we had this I remember again like it came back. 518 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 4: We had this. 519 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: Pretty cool conversation about music, and I think through that, 520 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: I think, at least verbally, he thought that I got it. 521 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: So he says, hold on, man. 522 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: What he goes off and here's he'll click, and he 523 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: goes to Gloria Monty and says. 524 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 4: Something and comes back and says, just do what I say, man, And. 525 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: Then I do impressions in case anyone out there tell 526 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: your husband. 527 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: He says, uh. 528 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 4: I said, what are you talking? And I remember him 529 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: being very firm. 530 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: I said, God, this memory comes so clear, just do 531 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: what I say, man. In the scene, he was gonna 532 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: ad libs. I introduced him because my character was and 533 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: he and he gets something and he talks a little 534 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: bit about the charot we were. It was a fundraiser, 535 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: but so there was a whole band set up. 536 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 4: He was gonna say for the water. 537 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 3: I remember. 538 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: He says, uh. 539 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: Black, you played drums right, and totally get up there. 540 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: What are we gonna play? A little jed And I 541 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: can see him look at me like, all right, this 542 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: guy's got he gets it. We're speaking the same language. 543 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: It's the sage. And then and then he gave me 544 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: this big hug at the end. And then I heard 545 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: later that it was playing on all the monitors and 546 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: and here at ABC and in New York, and. 547 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 4: Everybody kind of gathered around and they started. 548 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: Going closer to the monitors and they let us play 549 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: for a long time. And then and then I went 550 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: to see Samy at the Greek and he was dying. 551 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 4: He hadn't. 552 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: And after he comes into the backstage, there's gonna white 553 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: cape and again like I remember this ass loft there 554 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: and he goes over and as the bartender for two 555 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: orange crushes. He said, he said, the dope and the 556 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: SIGs I don't miss the booze, I miss we cheered. 557 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 2: And then yeah, you, I mean your whole You have 558 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: a very kindred spirit. When you talk about Sinatra, Elvis, 559 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: Sammy Davis, Don Rickles, Klugman, when you were in on 560 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: Broadway with James Earl Jones, you. 561 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: Really kind of I think, your whole life. 562 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: And I think maybe based on your relationship with your dad, 563 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: who so you had this like incredible relationship with and 564 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: respected so much older, so you respected that. 565 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: I also think it's. 566 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: Interesting reading your book and hearing it from your perspective, 567 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 2: so a guy's perspective, talking about guys, you know, really 568 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: being sexualized and being objectified and you know you and 569 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: just that experience, because I do think people forget that 570 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: that does happen. 571 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: To man, it happens, it happened to you. 572 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: I think it's like one I think it's seven out 573 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: of every twenty five girls by the time of every 574 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: teen have been sexually abused, and it's like one out 575 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: of every twenty five boys. 576 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: But that's not real because boys don't talk about it right. 577 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 4: It's numbers are fault. 578 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: So I just talk about it very briefly in the 579 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: book because I certainly don't want it to be about that. 580 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: But I also felt like a Charlottan if I didn't, 581 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: because I've done, you know, thirty five years I've been 582 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: advocating for the children, trying to get that right. 583 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 4: But so I felt like a phone. 584 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: If I it was just the right time to kind 585 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: you know, I just graze it. It's a page. But 586 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know how it affected me. I don't, 587 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, again, looking back at all this stuff, I don't. 588 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: I'm not sure. 589 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: But it's always been that, you know, most of those 590 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: growing up, most of those sexual experiences have been with 591 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: women that were a little more sophisticated. And I'm not 592 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: a victim, no nobody, you know, I don't feel like 593 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: but the babysitter thing was like felt good maybe yeah. 594 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 2: Well that's what's sort of confusing, because when someone is 595 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 2: doing something that's like right, inappropriate, but yet it's gentle 596 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: or it feels good, you're confused no matter, yeah, you know, 597 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: And and the work that you've done is so I 598 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: think for so long now with kids. Yeah, so I 599 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 2: think I was really just beautiful and I think it 600 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: was it was that, like, why have I been so 601 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: interested in helping children? 602 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 4: Through all through a lot of different causes, but certainly 603 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 4: the abuse to them. 604 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons I didn't put it in 605 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: the I could put it in the book is it didn't 606 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: make sense, but maybe I could have. But we have 607 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: an eight hundred number, one eight hundred for a child. 608 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: And if you're any of this kind of thing, and 609 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: you know it doesn't it's not like some weirdo with 610 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: a trench coat on it takes in the back of 611 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: a van. It's a priest, it's a neighbor, it's an uncle. 612 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: And so that's why I want to talk about but 613 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: one eight hundred four a child. And the other thing is, 614 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, during the pandemic especially, it was on it. 615 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: It was on the rise. Because if it's stuck at home, 616 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: you don't have jobs, drinking, come fine. 617 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 4: And it's also this hot line is also good for parents. 618 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: If you're a little frustrated and you maybe want to 619 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: hurt your kid or you can't control your anger, call 620 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: that number and we talk you through that as well. 621 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: I think the book I talked about like that idea. 622 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: If you would have told me, I don't know how 623 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: I stump. It's a beautiful time, it's you know, and 624 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: they said, what do you want to call it? If 625 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: you were to tell me Mike Love was calling me 626 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: one day years ago. Mike Love was the lead singing 627 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: of the Beach Boys. It was the first concert I 628 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: went to and he was calling and calling. Someone was 629 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: over and I didn't answer it. I said, I told 630 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: me when I was a kid, my first concertant, Mike 631 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: Love was calling and I didn't pick it up. 632 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: That's where it came from. 633 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: But it also is you know, you could use it 634 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: as you know, if you would have told me that 635 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: one of my best friends would die, you know. Yeah, 636 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: So the point is that if you had have told 637 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: me these things and then you avoid them. Okay, So anyway, 638 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: there's probably jobs that I should have taken that I lost, 639 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: or or that was off. 640 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 4: To me, or just all the things. 641 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: And before writing this book, I would say, you know, 642 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: you'd say do you have any regrets? To say, yeah, 643 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: I reget this, forget that. Writing a book and realizing 644 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: that everything happened for a reason, like you said, and 645 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: one thing like to another, and the divorce and the 646 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: heart break taught me what I really wanted in love 647 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: and prepared me for when Caitlyn came around, and then 648 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't change a thing. 649 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. I also think you wrote this book at a 650 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 3: perfect moment in your life, because I actually think your 651 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: fifties are a time of great reflection. 652 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: And like you said, you know, so the door was 653 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: shutting you and you got under it, and now you're 654 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: to me. You're going through the arch of the next 655 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: chapter of your life, which is just so rich with 656 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: love and family and like gratitude. 657 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: Exactly. This is a and you know you do have 658 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: of this, you know the body of war that you have. 659 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: You know, here you are a kid from Cypress, California 660 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: and you're like having this epic career. 661 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: Welcome back to table for two. 662 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: You most likely know John from his time on a 663 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: both wildly successful soap opera and a primetime sitcom, but 664 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: he's also acted on stage. 665 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: What was it like to make that transition. 666 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: Let's swing it over to you know you talk about 667 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: when you were on Broadway, and yes, you know, I 668 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: think that's one of the times we first met. 669 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: But you know you were DMC and Cabaret. You replaced 670 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: Matthew Broderick when he took he went to Way to 671 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: do a movie on how to succeed. 672 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: And where where did I get those balls? Like I 673 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: never I was in a theater, like I didn't grow up. 674 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: I try auditioned in the high school for the Wizard 675 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: of Oz to play the scarecrow. 676 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: I got about once, you know, while a while away 677 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: the stops up. If you do makeup? Can you make 678 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 4: up in the show? Don't sing? That's where I was 679 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: and so but Jack Clickman was always in my air. 680 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 5: Got to the theater, got it when full hous in it, 681 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, all right, man, I play this 682 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 5: idiot right years. Everybody thinks I'm like fucking dope, you know, 683 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 5: guitar wheeled and elm was looking it. 684 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 4: Gets to the theater. I never did it before. I 685 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 4: don't really I can't sing, doesn't matter. He was in Gypsy. 686 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 4: You know I can't sing. 687 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: I said, really, don't good, don't practice it. But so 688 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: I just I just went far it in my mind 689 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: then and I tried. Look, I was fearless, right you 690 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: remember those that do you have a fearlessness in your life, 691 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: and I, you know, I've been trying to get back 692 00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: to that our sense. 693 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: But I would just think, like, well. 694 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: If I danced, if I practice dance and I want 695 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: to dance with If I sang enough, if I really 696 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: worked on something fifteen hours a day, I could do it. 697 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: And I did well because you have that thing that 698 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: you can't get, which is charisma and the light from 699 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: the audience, like people are drawn to you, so. 700 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: Like yeah, like a moth. Yeah, like a yeah, like 701 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: a just sounded like a moth to but aflap you. 702 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: And so I think when you when and clearly you 703 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: loved it, like it was something that you what was 704 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: the high like on being in front of a live 705 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: audience all of a sudden like that kind of like 706 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: eight shows a week you had you I know, you 707 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: had your rituals. I mean that's you've left. I think 708 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: it was a great time. As Clegman said to like, 709 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: get out of La yeah, right, get out of this zone. 710 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: Right, life was changing. 711 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: Stay in Trump Tower, that's where I was staying. I 712 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: forgot I was I don't think I put it in there. 713 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: But but Tony Bennett lived there too, and he was 714 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: like one floor above me. 715 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 4: Go to the show. 716 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: I can price see like, okay, great, I'm getting off. 717 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: It's hard to rely. It took me, you know, you 718 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: know a lot you know this business. Like I say, 719 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: like some people get it right away. DiCaprio out of 720 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: the gate was a brilliant actor, right, Lawrence people like 721 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: me and there's the others. Takes twenty five thirty years, 722 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: and I think I'm in that category. 723 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 4: Like just to last maybe eight ten years ago. Stop 724 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 4: trying so hard, stay more. 725 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: I remember when Jason Bateman, we kind of grew up 726 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: together when he was really hitting it. So let's go 727 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: to lunch man, How did you what happened? Because I 728 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, and there was a long time still, I mean, 729 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm not you say, oh, you've had quite a career. Yeah, 730 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: I've been in the lower part of the middle. But 731 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm still around. That's the maybe the impressident. 732 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 4: But I asked him how. 733 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: He said he just stopped trying so hard, just let 734 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: go relaxed. He literally could and get arrested. Then it 735 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: gets arrested them, right, and it just let's you know, 736 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: and it's. 737 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 4: A hard thing. 738 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: Should you trust because it's trusting itself. 739 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 4: We don't think we that. 740 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that's part of the next chapter 741 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: of your life that you're you know now that you 742 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: are you know, every things have settled around you. You're 743 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: in this, you know, are you now able to foresee 744 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: letting go? And if so, what are the things that 745 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: you'd like to do in this next piece? 746 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Well, I think I have let go a lot, you know, 747 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: holding onto everything so important. By the way, like there's 748 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: no one job anymore really that that makes or breaks you. 749 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: And the ones that you think are gonna that you 750 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: don't get, you know, that's going to be the hitch. 751 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 4: It isn't the little. 752 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: Ones Like I remember, I was a couple of meetings 753 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: with great Borlantia and he said, hey, well you go. 754 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: Do you do me a favorite? 755 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 756 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: Anything is we do a few episodes of the show 757 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 4: I got going on. It's called You on Life shot 758 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 4: I love. 759 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: I said, great, the show tanks on Lifetime and Netflix 760 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: buys it. 761 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 4: It's third number one and tro and all a sudden boom. 762 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 4: I never thought that was So it is about letting go? 763 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: Do I feel the only career wise, I really have 764 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: let it go. I don't care. I mean I don't 765 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: really care anymore. And I try to find projects I 766 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: like or I put stuff together, but I am waiting 767 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: for my breaking bad. 768 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 4: I hope that comes around. It at something. 769 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 3: I've had such a nice time with John today. 770 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: He is so smart and honest and open about his 771 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: life and journey. I would be remiss if I didn't 772 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: ask him about his dear friend and Full House Coach 773 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: star Bob Saggatt, who passed suddenly last year. How do 774 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 2: you memorialize someone who's had such an impact on your life. 775 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: You know, you've talked about Bob a couple of times, 776 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: and you've talked about him at length in The Brotherhood 777 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: and the Love and as you end this book. 778 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: And as we sort of are getting close to the end. 779 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: Of our lun Yeah, you really talk about that last 780 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: dinner you had with your wives at NOBU and it's 781 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: really beautiful, and you say you just never know. And 782 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: I guess the question I'm not asking about Bob because 783 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: he's you know, he's missed by so many and he 784 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: really was great. 785 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: I guess how do you? I mean, every day you 786 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 3: must honor him. 787 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: Somehow life is not as it's not as funny or 788 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: fun sure, but I mean you got to get over that. 789 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: But a little piece of view is gone, right, Yeah, 790 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: have you lost anybody. 791 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 3: Close to Yeah? 792 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you just go But did you see the 793 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: movie Coco Disneyland. 794 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, what they. 795 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: Said, and they were so beautiful, which was a person dies, okay, 796 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: and then if you don't talk about him, you don't 797 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: tell stories about him, if you don't put their pictures up, 798 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: they die again for good up there. So that's one 799 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: of the things where I certainly try to talk about 800 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: him as much as I can, and I'm sure if 801 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: we're real quiet, we can hear him complaining that I 802 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: don't talk about him enough. 803 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 4: You knew Bob right very well. He was the greatest. 804 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: He was the most COMPLI you know, he was very 805 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: It was the biggest insecure egomaniac. You know, he had both. 806 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: But that night we were at Nobu. Sorry we didn't 807 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: go to the palm, but Bob and I did go 808 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: to the pump all the time, and again I was 809 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: going to meet him and he had a drawing right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 810 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: you know you want to know the truth about So 811 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: Bruce said, out of think we're moving and you said 812 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: come pick up the things, and you know why I didn't. 813 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: I was too drunk to drive that day. Really, I 814 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: thought I better not drive. That's interesting. It was like 815 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: it was a shitty you know boozy times all I 816 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: want that. 817 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: Really, I wondered why. 818 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 4: Remember I was probably one of the only people that came. 819 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, he just doesn't want it, but 820 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: that's okay, Well you know I want it and drew 821 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: my friends. 822 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: So I didn't take personal. It wasn't insulting. I was 823 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 3: great and we put it. 824 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: But that's the thing about anyway I was. That's why 825 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: I never picked it. But I'm sober now getting it. 826 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: In the beginning of the book, I talk about going 827 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: to the poem and meet Bob and what the palm 828 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: meant to me. It was like, you know, like everybody 829 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: knew my name there there was a place that you guys. 830 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: But I say that because there's a lot of Snatra 831 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: stuff I talked about, and I talk about the characters 832 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: over there and the new place, the old there was 833 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: like you put me right next to Sinatra too, and 834 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: I remember seeing that. 835 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 3: Wow. 836 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: And then Andy Cohen and mate, you want or to 837 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: how did I make it over here? You just marked 838 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: that in your house staring at you like the mansion. 839 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 4: I follow you around no matter where you. 840 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 5: Said the book. 841 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 2: Well, all I could say is everybody your your book 842 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: comes out on October twenty fourth, this will probably you 843 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: would have heard this or the book will be out 844 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: and it's beautiful. 845 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 3: And it's also a beautiful. 846 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 2: Book to listen to because to hear you read it. 847 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 4: So that was so hard. 848 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: Mostly they said, well, I said, how long the four 849 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: or five sessions you'll get it? Give me like thirty 850 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: because like kids, I just kept going over and over 851 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: and I could change stuff. And I also I hope 852 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: that it's a book that if you're not a fan 853 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: of mine or whatever, like it's just. 854 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 3: One hundred percent okay it is. 855 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 2: It's a book about love, it's a book about family, 856 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: and just to I also want to close with you 857 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: know you sure, and you've talked about your mom leaving notes. Yes, 858 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: I think that's so like beautiful and insightful of your 859 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: mother because that is that is a great gift to have. 860 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 4: Have you done it to you? 861 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 3: You're not okay, Brian has done that and I am not. 862 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: You know what I'm doing with Billy is I'm I've 863 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: set up an email compra end and he you know, 864 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: he can't get into it obviously, and I just write 865 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: them emails once and it's easier because I can just 866 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: talk to my like the other night going to bed 867 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: and Caitlyn was out of town, so me and they 868 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: have this special prayer together that they say it was 869 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: so good. 870 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 4: He kind of cobbled through it. It was really beautiful. 871 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: And then as he fell asleep in my arms, I wrote, 872 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: but I talked on my phone into an email and 873 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: I said to a beautiful Then in the morning we 874 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: woke up and he's his face is right next to 875 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: my little nose. He goes, Dad, I go, yeah, he goes, 876 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: you smell like my bathroom at my school breath. 877 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 4: I thank you, little ship. 878 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: You gotta love it. 879 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 4: And I love you, Bruce, and I love you doing this. 880 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: And I think this conversation it was really nice to 881 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: have with you. 882 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 4: And I appreciate you taking the time to read the 883 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 4: book that it means. Yeah, it's weird having a book. 884 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 4: I bet it, like, oh my god. 885 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 2: I know, but you know what, this is a gift 886 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 2: for people because it is a story of not just 887 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: your celebrity and your career. It's a story of friendship, love, 888 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 2: finding yourself, sobriety, saving yourself. 889 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 3: It's a great memoir. 890 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 2: John Stamos, very much, Thank you so much for being 891 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't have to pay you don't I don't have 892 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: to split it. No, my touch baby anyway. Anyway, thanks 893 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: for showing up. 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