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Speaker 2: the Giants. Johns Belt, John than Cassie us a victory

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Speaker 2: postgame show for the New York Football Giants. They hold

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Speaker 2: on to defeat the New England Patriots ten to seven,

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Speaker 2: and by the skin of their chitty Chin Chin, Jonathan

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Speaker 2: can see us a thirty five yard field goal attempt

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Speaker 2: by Chad Riley to tie the game at the end

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Speaker 2: of regulation with six seconds to go by the Patriots

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Speaker 2: goes wide to the left and the Giants hold on

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Speaker 2: to win ten to seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, look, it wasn't a pretty game, but they got

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Speaker 4: the dub. They held on And I don't know if

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Speaker 4: I could have took it if food it went it overtime,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. This was a very slow offensive game

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Speaker 4: today and the Giants defense definitely stepped up, creating another

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Speaker 4: three turnovers today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was a big part of this game.

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Speaker 2: Special teams also a big part of this game. We

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Speaker 2: intol that point. And then the Patriots lone touchdown, which

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Speaker 2: So special teams in these close games where neither offense

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Speaker 5: Gives it, it takes away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And look, I gotta tip my hat off

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Speaker 4: to them playing them as in the New York Giants

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Speaker 4: playing complimentary football. Again, the ten points came off for

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Speaker 4: the turnovers. You know, the two scoring drives was off

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Speaker 4: So the Giants are capitalizing off of their defense making plays.

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Speaker 4: And that's something I don't think that we've seen consistently

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Speaker 4: done a great job in capitalizing off the plays that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the defense is going out and making those

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Speaker 2: opportunities in addition to the ones that they did get. Again,

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Speaker 2: they were plus two in this game. They had three

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Speaker 2: I'd probably say three quarters of those fifty four yards

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Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito is second straight victory as a starter, seventeen

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Speaker 2: Just want to tip my captain Jalen hy at two

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Speaker 2: five catches, one hundred and nine yards, just six targets.

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Speaker 2: He got separation, and I want to say, really nice

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Speaker 2: throws by Tommy DeVito. You know these were not wide

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Speaker 5: But on those go routes down the sideline.

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Speaker 2: The coverage was not that poor on those plays, and

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Speaker 4: Great ball placement all day. Whenever Tommy DeVito actually he

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Speaker 4: Those plays to hide up the sideline. Those are not

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Speaker 5: No question about it.

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Speaker 5: Let's take a time out.

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Speaker 2: when we return on Pepsi Giants Extra Point. Giants defeat

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Speaker 2: the Patriots ten to seven in me Life Stadium, heading

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Speaker 2: We're back here at Pepsi Giants extra Point, John Schmelt, Johnathan,

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Speaker 2: you can see US Giants hold on. They defeat the

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots ten to seven. Patriots drive down on

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Speaker 5: Seventeen yard line, pardon me.

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Speaker 2: They line up for the potential game winning field goal

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Two straight wins for the Giants, two straight wins for

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Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito.

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Speaker 5: Let's go streak in jac during the way. Giants.

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Speaker 2: Giants heading into the by winners of two straight and

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Speaker 2: I think you'd be hard pressed with two straight wins

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Speaker 2: if it is, but right now, the money that game

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Speaker 2: against the Packers, you gotta think that Tommy DeVito has

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you watch Tommy DeVito play the game, once

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Speaker 4: The Giants, I think, besides the run, they did a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and home versus the Packers on again Monday night.

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Speaker 5: You know, this isn't This isn't the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: And win for them the other night though.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the final of that game was,

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Speaker 5: Though I will say this, you're gonna have to start

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can't win many games button up ten, which

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Speaker 5: To try to manufacture a.

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Speaker 4: Win, they have to find an ability to sustain drives.

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Speaker 4: The Giants have scored the last two weeks thirty four

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Speaker 2: To your point, Giants again, we're winning. Brian Daviles Press conference.

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Speaker 2: Giants with eight punts in this game. They did not

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Speaker 2: The coach's press conference is brought to you by Hackensack

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Speaker 2: Murty Health.

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Speaker 5: Keep getting better.

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Speaker 2: Brian Dables at the podium downstairs, ready to address the

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Speaker 2: mediac to the Giants ten to seven win over the Atriots.

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Speaker 5: Let's listen it.

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Speaker 6: We got thibs.

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Speaker 5: You know, you know how Belichick loves those pull snap looks.

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Speaker 2: I think it seems like Tommy was reading pretty well.

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Speaker 6: And he's not forcing the ball again.

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Speaker 5: Talk about when you saw I know you gotta look

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no again, So thought he has already made a

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Speaker 6: Didn't turn the ball over. You know, we had that

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Speaker 7: I don't know what a one hundred and seven quarterback

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know, we got to help him out too.

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Speaker 7: You know, we had a couple few drops in there

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Speaker 7: you know, his job is to do what he needs

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Speaker 5: Do you see that progress in Tommy though?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 7: From the now Yeah, yeah, really since Oaks. But he's

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Speaker 7: you know, he's got a lot to work on still.

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Speaker 7: He's only had three starts, so two and one. I

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Speaker 7: think the three starts and certainly, you know, things we'd

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Speaker 8: Will come back after the by You still want to

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Speaker 8: stick with Tommy, Yeah, we'll.

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Speaker 7: We'll have our we'll have our bye week here. We'll

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Speaker 1: O big was the McKinney interception for you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they all were big, but x was great.

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Speaker 7: Another over out that was Banks's too, So uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: I thought Wink did a fabulous job of you know,

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Speaker 6: So proud of those guys, Gabs.

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Speaker 9: Can you talk about how Thibodau Thibodeau played without Dexter

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Speaker 7: Sure, yeah, obviously you always missed a guy like dex

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Speaker 7: Cavan has been a leader for us. Again, I've talked

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Speaker 6: Good to have them.

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Speaker 10: You you know, in your head thinking about okay, you

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Speaker 10: You know, I mean, I mean, I mean, so what

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Speaker 10: what goes through your head real quickly? You've got to

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Speaker 5: Go wide left.

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Speaker 7: Well, you got to make a decision on what you

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Speaker 11: What did you think of the way your defense played

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, done a good job of taking care of the

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Speaker 3: How good the bets going the bump into the back.

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Speaker 6: Of two wins one more time?

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Speaker 5: Sorry?

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Speaker 6: How good is it fields to go into the bye

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Speaker 7: It feels good. Yeah, it feels better than alternative.

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Speaker 3: There was a record.

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Speaker 12: Pregame that you and Wink are not getting along.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'd say the biggest argument Wink and I've

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Speaker 6: Last piece of pizza?

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Speaker 7: So got a lot of respect for Wink. Done a

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Speaker 1: Are you saying there was no truth in that No?

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Speaker 6: I was waiting for you to ask one. Okay, I'm sorry, No,

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Speaker 1: Are you saying there was no truth in that report?

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Speaker 14: Candidly?

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Speaker 5: I didn't see it.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I'd say I got a lot of respect

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Speaker 1: How about Isaiah Hodgen's kind of getting involved today getting

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Speaker 5: I know it's the last year anymore, but he's been

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Speaker 6: I think you asked that question, didn't you? Prophetic?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 7: He did a nice job in the under route, broke

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Speaker 7: I thought Hyatt, you know, so you got Schmidt's, you

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Speaker 3: Did you see from Hyatt specifically today?

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Speaker 7: Made plays when it came his way. You know, it

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 6: I think Tommy's got a lot of trust in him.

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Speaker 7: Those guys are pretty close, so you know that first

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Speaker 6: They wean to start to go.

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Speaker 7: Got a big third down on the shallow crosser, so

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 9: One of the things that you see when you when

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you can quantify it.

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Speaker 7: I just think that I think he's, you know, got

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Speaker 7: Obviously, he's only played three games and started three games.

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Speaker 7: But I'd say the you know, the defensive guys. You know,

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Speaker 5: Is he made the biggest strides in your opinion in

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Speaker 6: You know, it help us.

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Speaker 7: But there's a lot of things that go into that

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Speaker 7: too as well. So you know, we just got all

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Speaker 7: got to keep doing our job and doing it as

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Speaker 7: well as we can.

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Speaker 6: Whip an adjustment.

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Speaker 3: Was it at halftime when they switched quarter decks?

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Speaker 7: Not much now, we were doing a you know, I

451
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Speaker 7: thought we had a good plan all the way through.

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Speaker 7: We watched both quarterbacks, but I thought, you know, most

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Speaker 7: importantly was you know, for us to play well. And

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Speaker 7: we didn't get off to a good start in the

455
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Speaker 7: second half there we kicked the ball out of bounds,

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Speaker 7: they get the ball, they drive down and hit a

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Speaker 7: couple of third downs at score.

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Speaker 6: But you know, the resiliency was good.

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Speaker 7: And then you know, we ended up making that kick

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Speaker 7: after we kicked the ball out of bounds, and we

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Speaker 7: end up making a forty three yard whatever it was

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Speaker 7: to go up ten.

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Speaker 6: Obviously had some more chances to get some points on

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Speaker 6: the board. We'll work on that.

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Speaker 7: That's what we'll do, you know.

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Speaker 6: Coaching wise, in this upcoming week, did.

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Speaker 11: You get think the momentums when was the was the

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Speaker 11: challenge and you talk about.

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Speaker 3: The start of the second game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the four down and what I thought, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I thought it was obviously it was a big play.

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Speaker 7: They didn't saw that. They didn't get it. His elbow

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Speaker 7: was down. Guys upstairs did a great job of communicating it,

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Speaker 7: you know, backed him up, they tried to get us

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Speaker 7: out side. That was Yeah, I think it was helpful

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Speaker 7: that they didn't get the first down.

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Speaker 6: No question, did you get.

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Speaker 10: A sense that they weren't gonna let Saquon beat them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah that's every week. Yeah, that's every week.

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Speaker 3: Coach.

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Speaker 15: I'd argue that Jalen High was the offensive MVP this game.

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Speaker 15: There's been a little consistency as far as getting him

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Speaker 15: involved this season as far as you with what I'm sorry,

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Speaker 15: I would say that there's been a little bit to argue.

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Speaker 5: I'd argue that he would be the offensive I.

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Speaker 6: Just want to make sure that you're MVP.

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Speaker 15: There's been a little inconsistency as far as you know

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Speaker 15: the game plan from week by week basis, how even

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Speaker 15: past the bye week, How how sensitive is it for

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Speaker 15: lack of better words, to get him more involved down

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Speaker 15: the stretch as a rookie.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just think Jalen's got to continue to do

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Speaker 7: his job. He does everything we asked him to do,

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Speaker 7: and you know, when he's open, he gets a ball

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Speaker 7: thrown to him, then we make the play. So again,

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Speaker 7: this guy is worked extremely hard since he's been here.

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Speaker 7: He's a young player like Tommy, like John Michael, like

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Speaker 7: some of ywandell that we just got to keep bringing along.

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Speaker 7: And you know, those guys work extremely hard to do

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Speaker 7: everything they can possibly do you.

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Speaker 5: Might you know, like to might not.

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Speaker 10: Have won without three interceptions and could have lost if

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Speaker 10: you threw even one. I'm just saying, how difficult with

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Speaker 10: a rookie like this is it to get in his

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Speaker 10: head that you.

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Speaker 3: Can't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 5: It's easier said than done.

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Speaker 10: You know he's not doing that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I prefer not to say you can't turn the

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Speaker 7: ball over. I'd prefer to say, make good decisions. So

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Speaker 7: that's what we've asked him to do. That's what he's

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Speaker 7: continued to do. You know, the ball came out there

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Speaker 7: on one of the scrambles, which we just talked about.

514
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Speaker 7: It got a little rainy out, but you know, our

515
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Speaker 7: mindset is, you know what we need to do, so

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Speaker 7: be proactive and making good decisions. You know, I don't

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Speaker 7: like telling players they can't, you know, don't turn the

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Speaker 7: ball over, don't do this, or don't do this, like

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Speaker 7: it's a competitive game. Things are going to happen. I'd

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Speaker 7: rather give them. You know, this is what we expect

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Speaker 7: from you. But that's the culture we're trying to build.

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Speaker 9: One thing he's not doing with Tommy, he's not doing

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Speaker 9: is forcing any of his passes.

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Speaker 5: But does that lead to sometimes I'm holding the ball

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Speaker 5: too long.

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Speaker 7: You know, but maybe I think you take the good

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Speaker 7: with the bad on some of those because sometimes it

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Speaker 7: gives you a fifty sixty yard er down the field.

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Speaker 6: Something. Will continue to work on rush.

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Speaker 7: There's there's probably plays in there that we could maybe

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Speaker 7: get the ball out.

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Speaker 6: Maybe not.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's things that happen that happens quickly. I

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Speaker 7: think he's made progress. We'll keep working on that. So

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Speaker 7: you know, he's just he's he's trying to do everything

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Speaker 7: he can do to help to help our team.

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Speaker 6: In the matchup of head coaches to win.

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Speaker 7: Overbuilt, I'd say, look, I said this, I got a

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Speaker 7: lot of respect for him. It was just it's really

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Speaker 7: happy for the players, the coaches, you know, the organization.

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Speaker 7: A lot of smiling faces in there. You know, these

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Speaker 7: guys work extremely hard, they do things the right way,

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Speaker 7: they're committed to the process.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of team chemistry. You know.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate that after through some tough times. So look,

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Speaker 7: we got a long way to go. We'll come back

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Speaker 7: Monday night, I think against Green Bay. But really proud

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Speaker 7: of the people that you know, put their head down

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Speaker 7: and grind and are able to fight through some adversity

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Speaker 7: at times, because that's, like I've said before a million times,

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Speaker 7: the roller coaster. So uh, stay committed to the things

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Speaker 7: we do and believe in one another.

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Speaker 6: And do you ever.

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Speaker 7: Think we can do to try to put us in

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Speaker 7: good position to win a game?

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Speaker 11: Okay?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: Giants A coach Brian Dable at the podium after the

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Speaker 2: Giants ten to seven win over the Newland Patriots.

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Speaker 5: Here I met life's tame. Let's take a time out.

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Speaker 2: We'll open up the phone lines eight seven seven three

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Speaker 2: three seven sixty six sixty six that and a whole

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Speaker 2: lot more when we return after the giants second straight win.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Pepsi Giants Extra Point on the

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Speaker 1: WFAN Giants Radio network.

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Speaker 5: As a whole rookie.

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Speaker 16: You set from thirty five to tie.

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Speaker 5: Snapper is good on its way and over ended.

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Speaker 9: It is so good.

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Speaker 5: He mister White left Ryland. Mister White left.

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Speaker 2: That was the Chad Ryland missed field goal from just

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Speaker 2: thirty five yards out that clints the Giants ten to

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Speaker 2: seven victory over the New England Patriots backyard. Pepsi Giants

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Speaker 2: extra point that was tonight's play of the games that

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Speaker 2: to buy our local Ford stores. Ford is proud to

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Speaker 2: be the official truck of the New York Giants, John Schmilk.

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Speaker 2: Johnathan can see us joined by one of the two

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Speaker 2: men who called tonight's game, former Giants linebacker and of

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Speaker 2: course Super Bowl champion, Carl Banks. Carl, you've had a

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Speaker 2: chance to ruminate on this game a little bit your thoughts.

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Speaker 17: So it's four and eight, yes, right, So you subtract

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Speaker 17: two from me to make it six, you'd be six.

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Speaker 17: And what if you win the six and six, you'd

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Speaker 17: win the Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: Game and jet skin six and six.

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Speaker 17: You're looking at six and six. But you know what,

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Speaker 17: progress is progress, and I think that is what we

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Speaker 17: wanted to see. And this team is continuing the fiating.

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Speaker 17: For anybody that thought that tanking was a good idea,

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Speaker 17: you got fifty three guys out there that says no, no, no,

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Speaker 17: we got jobs and we want to try to win

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Speaker 17: these games. So I thought this offensive line, you know

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Speaker 17: that they have improved, and I you know, you give

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Speaker 17: credit where it's due.

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Speaker 3: They're battling their butts off.

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Speaker 2: And you hear the goldy sack dumbers, Carl, but that's

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Speaker 2: not offensive.

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Speaker 5: Line bab But those are different.

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Speaker 17: Those are talent deficit sacks sometimes, where earlier in the

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Speaker 17: year there were free runners communication stuff right right, just

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Speaker 17: guys free running. Even in the run game, they weren't

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Speaker 17: turning guys who was I think they turned the guy

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Speaker 17: Blitcher loose one time in the second half for a

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Speaker 17: Broccoley loss. But there's there's a difference, and I'd like

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Speaker 17: to see that at least this group is now, they're

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Speaker 17: communicating a hell of a lot better. And you could

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Speaker 17: tell it because this quarterback is having some success. And

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Speaker 17: you know, people, well I have opinions on whether or

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Speaker 17: not it's it's the vidos running into some sacks others,

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Speaker 17: you know, it's just they're just getting sacks. So I

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Speaker 17: just I hope they continue to get better and continue

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Speaker 17: to compete.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, at the end of the day, they

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Speaker 4: they're finding ways the last two weeks to win games,

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Speaker 4: whether it was ugly, pretty, whatever the case is, they

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Speaker 4: found the way the last two weeks to win games.

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Speaker 4: Finally have a winning streak. They're they're they're two and

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Speaker 4: on the last two weeks. I like, I like to

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Speaker 4: say that because you know, the Giants only got four

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Speaker 4: wins on the year. But what I like to see

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Speaker 4: I would like to see them progress into an offense

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Speaker 4: that actually can sustain a drive. We talked about that

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Speaker 4: a little bit earlier. The Giants haven't figured out ways

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Speaker 4: to do that all year, no matter who was playing quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And the Giants are not going to be able to

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Speaker 4: create multiple turnovers every single game for the rest of

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Speaker 4: the year, so they have to figure out ways is

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Speaker 4: the stain drives.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, two things on that I thought today would have

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Speaker 17: been that day. To be honest, with the way that

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Speaker 17: first drive started, I thought they were just gonna go

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Speaker 17: down and just punch it right in. But then it

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Speaker 17: was a self inflicted mistake, right they had everything was going,

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Speaker 17: you know, you had two Barclay runs, a lot of passes,

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Speaker 17: and then a muffed reverse.

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Speaker 3: Right and they were in in the red zone.

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Speaker 17: So it's you know, you could start to feel a

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Speaker 17: bit of a rhythm with this offense, but it it's

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Speaker 17: still they still haven't shown that they are disciplined or

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Speaker 17: good enough to, like you said, go down and score

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Speaker 17: consistently right offensively. The fact that they were so intentional

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Speaker 17: about Jalen Hyatt was a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: Man and I'll tell you what the one play I

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Speaker 3: think his.

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Speaker 17: Last big catch if you don't navigated the pocket and

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Speaker 17: just let it rip like he wasn't, like.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and it was.

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Speaker 3: A sideline throw, small.

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Speaker 17: Window, and and he literally is is running away from

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Speaker 17: a defender when he lets that rip.

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Speaker 3: So that's you know, that's.

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Speaker 2: Moxie Giants' three longest plays all the Jalen Hyatt. A

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Speaker 2: twenty two yard throw, a twenty nine yard throw, forty

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Speaker 2: one yard throw, one and one was a whole shot

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Speaker 2: on a cover too. He had the deep crosser, which

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Speaker 2: early in the game had the great protection, and then

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Speaker 2: you had the other just basic nine goal routes over

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Speaker 2: there now the.

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Speaker 3: Way it should be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And the reason why that he's able to get

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Speaker 4: the ball downfield is the same reason why he's getting sacked.

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Speaker 4: I think as much as he is, he's holding onto

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Speaker 4: the ball. If he didn't hold on the ball to

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Speaker 4: those multiple passes threw downfield to Hyatt, he would have

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Speaker 4: never been able to get open.

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Speaker 5: On the crosser end on the last.

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Speaker 17: Get your distinction further, on the balls that he's supposed

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Speaker 17: to get out of his hands, they're out. You can

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Speaker 17: tell with those and you could tell the ones where

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Speaker 17: it's multiple reads because he's like he's he's gonna wait

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Speaker 17: until that read opens up so he could hit it,

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Speaker 17: as opposed to I got it out quick.

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Speaker 3: Here's my checkdown. Let me do this. No, this one

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Speaker 3: calls I got three levels.

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Speaker 2: And it seems like the quick ones come early and

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Speaker 2: they're intentionally part of that early game script to get

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Speaker 2: the ball out of his head direct, and then.

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Speaker 3: The other ones.

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Speaker 17: They may have a short guy, but they may have

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Speaker 17: two other guys deeper, and he's like, nope, I'm not

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Speaker 17: getting rid of this. I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna try

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Speaker 17: to get one of these shots. And he's done it.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of those short passes, they're all timing routes.

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Speaker 4: But the most important thing, especially with Tommy DeVito, is

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Speaker 4: that ball placement.

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Speaker 3: Some of these hitches, some of these.

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Speaker 4: Slants, if the ball is not thrown the right way,

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Speaker 4: you won't enable your receiver to have yards after they catch.

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Speaker 4: And you were able to see that multiple times today

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Speaker 4: on the easy, simple passes that converted the first downs.

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Speaker 2: Yep, all right, let's take a quick time out. Giants

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Speaker 2: defeat the Patriots ten to seven. Bob Papa will rejoin us.

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Speaker 17: Veto the Patriots, but I said defeat the Patriots actually

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Speaker 17: dits because Bill Belichick does not lose the rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: And so he got de Vito, you got Defto the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Tovito that MetLife Stadium ten seven will be back with more.

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Speaker 5: Bob Boppa will join us the game.

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Speaker 2: Holding up the phones at eight seven seven three three

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Speaker 2: seven sixty six sixty six.

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Speaker 5: When we return.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Pepsi Giants Extra Point on the

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Speaker 1: WFAN Giants Radio network.

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Speaker 16: Elf takes the snap back to throw under pressure, throws

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Speaker 16: it right and it's intercepted.

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Speaker 10: Bobbio Kellor K with the pick, put it up the

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Speaker 10: right sideline acrossman field leads a block, still on his feet.

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Speaker 5: It's sad. The thirtieth Teco got the.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five yard line back Jones with his second interception.

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Speaker 3: Bobbyo Kara K with his second pick of the year.

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Speaker 3: The Vito on a walk.

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Speaker 5: Coup takes the snap back to throw.

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Speaker 3: Barkley picks up the Flitzer throws it.

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Speaker 16: Left, stiff arming his band as Hodgins gets to the

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Speaker 16: coal line and he's in for the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Isaiah Hodgens stiff farm Jonathan Jones and fought him off

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Speaker 2: for the Giants are.

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Speaker 3: On the bar.

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Speaker 2: That was how the Giants got the ball and finished

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Speaker 2: today's drive of the game. Brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 2: the official bank of the New York Giants. Citizens isn't

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Speaker 2: aid ready for Giant fans. The Giants didn't have a

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Speaker 2: bunch of long drives today, just six plays twenty six yards,

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Speaker 2: but it did wind up in the giants lone touchdown

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Speaker 2: of the game to at that point give them the lead.

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Speaker 5: Putchy Giants extra point.

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Speaker 2: John Schmilt, Bob Papa Carl Banks Giants defeat the Patriots

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Speaker 2: ten to seven. Our our own Bob Poppa, the voice

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Speaker 2: of the Giants, had a chance to catch up to

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Speaker 2: the starting quarterback and now the Giants quarterback with a

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Speaker 2: two game winning streak, Tommy DeVito, after the game in

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Speaker 2: the locker room.

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Speaker 5: Let's listen in to that conversation.

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Speaker 8: We're joined by Giants quarterback Tommy DeVito. Can you describe

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Speaker 8: the emotions you're feeling right now? Winning a start in

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Speaker 8: a stadium that you won your high school championship, been

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Speaker 8: in front of family and friends for the New York Giants.

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Speaker 18: I'm just all smiles right now, thankful for the opportunity

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Speaker 18: for people to play this game with my teammates and

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Speaker 18: just enjoy and ultimately come out with a win. Last

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Speaker 18: time I played in the stadium, So actually about coach Shay,

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Speaker 18: he reminded me for he's like the last time he

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Speaker 18: started in this game was in high school.

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Speaker 3: Like in the stadium, right, you.

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Speaker 18: Guys want to stay championships like yeah, So it comes

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Speaker 18: cole circle. I'm just busted to be an opportunity, and

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Speaker 18: I am thankful for my teammates. Thinkfully, get a win.

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Speaker 8: You're able to hit some deep shots to Jalen Hyde,

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Speaker 8: he goes over one hundred yards for the first time.

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Speaker 8: How important was it to establish that early in the game.

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Speaker 18: Very I mean, he's a threat for every defense. He's

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Speaker 18: a tremendous playmaker, and to get him going early really

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Speaker 18: helped our offense.

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Speaker 3: Just get the ball down the field and.

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Speaker 5: Then talk to me on the route with Isaiah Hodgens.

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Speaker 8: It's third and ten from the twelve yard line, it's

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Speaker 8: short of the sticks. What are you guys thinking in

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Speaker 8: that situation?

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Speaker 18: Just trusting in the play and the play call going

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Speaker 18: throughout my red going throughout my repression see him sitting

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Speaker 18: there and made high contact, put him on him, and

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Speaker 18: he made a tremendous play being a big body receiver.

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Speaker 18: Making that guy get off him and get in the

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Speaker 18: end zone was awesome.

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Speaker 8: Was it part of the thought process? Hey, it's better

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Speaker 8: to take a sack than put the ball in harm's way.

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Speaker 18: Are There's certain situations like if we were in a

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Speaker 18: surrender situation, which that which we actually did not get into.

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Speaker 18: And there's certain parts of the field where we're allowed

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Speaker 18: to take sacks. Certain cards were not, but again I

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Speaker 18: could do better with that with controlling those.

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Speaker 8: And finally the Italian sign like manga, it's like catching

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Speaker 8: on nationally.

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Speaker 19: It's all over.

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Speaker 5: How much fun is that.

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Speaker 18: It's a lot of fun. It's more fun than my

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Speaker 18: teammates are doing it. They think it's funny they're doing

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Speaker 18: locker room and doing on the field. I think it's

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Speaker 18: it's awesome. Just a little thing, you know that was

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Speaker 18: thought of, not even buying me by Buzz in the

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Speaker 18: training room, so kind of keeping it going.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations, thank you, Yeah, buzz in the training room.

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Speaker 2: That was our player. Interviews downstairs are brought to you

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Speaker 2: by MetLife. The official insurance company of the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: One of Runny Barnes many great trainers there in the

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Speaker 2: training room, Guys, Tommy DeVito, I mean, this is this

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Speaker 2: is a heck of the NFL story, Bob. And you

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Speaker 2: can kind of get the sense talking to him that

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Speaker 2: he's enjoying life right now a little bit and you

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Speaker 2: should two straight wins now he gets to head into

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Speaker 2: New Jersey as a you know, two game winning streak

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Speaker 2: NFL quarterback and take a little bit R and R

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Speaker 2: as you.

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Speaker 5: Start to get ready for the final five games of

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Speaker 5: the year here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And what Tommy DeVito is doing here is remember

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Speaker 8: he's an undrafted free agent who's a rookie. And what

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Speaker 8: do you look for in guys who potentially could be

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Speaker 8: a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 5: You're looking for a.

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Speaker 8: Guy that's had some success when he's been given an

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Speaker 8: opportunity to play. And if your starter goes down, you

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Speaker 8: don't feel like it's gonna look like a Mike Glenning

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Speaker 8: game or something where it's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna be just a mess.

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Speaker 8: And what the veto is doing and if he can

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Speaker 8: string together a couple more wins, he's going to ensure

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Speaker 8: himself a ten to twelve year career in the NFL

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Speaker 8: as a backup who can go in and win games.

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Speaker 3: And will be a trusted backup.

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Speaker 17: Not some hold the rope type guy, but a guy

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Speaker 17: like you say, go in and get some wins. I mean,

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Speaker 17: he's showing you that he can make throws, he's willing

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Speaker 17: to wait some things out, and he's gonna learn a

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Speaker 17: little more about navigating the pocket. But I was talking

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Speaker 17: prior to you coming here, coming back, Bob. The last

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Speaker 17: long play to Jalen Hyatt on the sideline, he was

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Speaker 17: stepping a defender and let it rip on the mark.

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Speaker 3: I mean that ball, he kept him in bounds. And

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Speaker 3: that wasn't just like a chuck either.

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Speaker 17: I think you know he actually really put a good

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Speaker 17: pass out there while escaping.

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Speaker 5: And here's why I look at it too.

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Speaker 2: When you have a backup quarterback, a lot of times

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Speaker 2: you have a lot of physical limitations on these guys, right,

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Speaker 2: whether it's arm strength, lack of mobility. Well, what's timing

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Speaker 2: DeVito's physical limitation here? He's mobile, he can move. He look,

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Speaker 2: he's not Josh Allen, but he has a good enough

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Speaker 2: arm to make the throws he has to make. So

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Speaker 2: if he can figure things out upstairs mentally, there's no

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Speaker 2: reason he can't be a good backup course.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean from an athletics standpoint, just like as

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Speaker 8: an example, like when Daniel Jones or Tyrod even when

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Speaker 8: they're in a predicament in the pocket and they take

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Speaker 8: off and go, Daniel Jones has superior speed, which is.

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Speaker 6: Why he's able to get a lot of yards.

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Speaker 8: Danny doesn't really get away, but he's protecting the football.

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Speaker 8: And Carl you mentioned that, you know, Bill Belichick going

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Speaker 8: against you know, rookie quarterbacks is right, and he got

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Speaker 8: DeVito today. You know what makes this even more interesting.

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Speaker 8: When Tommy DeVito was waived by the Giants at the

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Speaker 8: end of camp, Bill Belichick and the Patriots tried very

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Speaker 8: very hard to bring him up to New England to

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Speaker 8: be on their practice squad.

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Speaker 5: Remember they only kept one quarterback on their fifty three.

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Speaker 8: Initially, Belichick was working the phones and he wanted Davido badly.

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Speaker 8: They saw something about Davito that they really liked. Tommy

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Speaker 8: wound up staying here and remained with the Giants. And obviously,

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Speaker 8: you know, with their quarterback situation, who knows, and you

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Speaker 8: see that they got I mean they had the running

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Speaker 8: quarterback to cut him.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 8: Will Greer got cut yesterday for some bizarre reason. But

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Speaker 8: I think Davido wound up in the right place at

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Speaker 8: the right time, with the right head coach and the

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Speaker 8: right quarterbacks coach to develop, and he's getting the job done.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three to three, seven sixty six sixty six.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the Colls and we'll take a couple

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Speaker 2: calls with Bob Carl. Let's go to Huie in Saint Louis, Missouri. Hueie,

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Speaker 2: what's happening, Hi, guys, how are you.

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Speaker 13: So again? Jeorde the victory. I'm a little confused by

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Speaker 13: looking at X and Carl. I know you're on there

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Speaker 13: a lot, all the hatred for winning and not tanking,

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Speaker 13: and the Giants are pulling the Jets from a couple

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Speaker 13: of years ago when he beat the Rams. I mean,

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Speaker 13: the reality is they both playing for his job or

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Speaker 13: coaching for his job. The players aren't out there tanking.

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Speaker 13: I thoroughly you know again, it was not the greatest

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Speaker 13: game to watch. However, it's a victory. I'll take it.

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Speaker 13: I think de Vito has set himself up to be

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Speaker 13: a Chase Daniels type of guy, you know, being the

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Speaker 13: league five ten years, make some good money as a backup.

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Speaker 13: He's serviceable. The only thing is he holds the ball

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Speaker 13: so long. That's my only criticism of watching that game today.

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Speaker 13: But overall it's nice to be nice waking up tomorrow

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Speaker 13: with the victory.

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Speaker 11: Guys.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I appreciate the car, but you know what, the

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Speaker 17: hole in the ball is so long?

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Speaker 11: Thing?

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Speaker 3: Do we see Jalen Hya go over one hundred yards?

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Speaker 5: Doesn't and he doesn't have any turnovers turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd rather hold it than force the ball into

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Speaker 2: a credit situation, which is fine.

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Speaker 8: Once he got seven touchdowns now in three interceptions.

886
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Speaker 5: Yeah you do, Yeah, yeah, I.

887
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 6: Mean and yeah, I mean.

888
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 8: Look, Carter Coughlin is a guy that lives on a

889
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 8: year to year stint in the National Football League, and

890
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 8: he comes down and blows somebody up on a kickoff return.

891
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 8: Cam Brown is a special team's h ace who's year

892
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 8: to year.

893
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: You know.

894
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 8: Ashawn Robinson is a year like Killaen Hides.

895
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 5: A rookie. You think he cares about draft position exactly.

896
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 5: It's just it's it's not it's not.

897
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 8: It's only feasible like in basketball, where you've got guys

898
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 8: that are on guaranteed contract, it doesn't matter, and then

899
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 8: the coach can manipulate the lineup however he sees fit

900
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 8: this sport, you can't, you really can't do it. And look,

901
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 8: I know, fan there's this segment of the fan base

902
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 8: that's like upset about draft position. Well, you know, Patrick

903
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 8: Mahomes was drafted tenth, Josh Allen was drafted seventh. If

904
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 8: a quarterback is where they're gonna go, you trust the

905
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 8: people that are gonna make the decisions, and.

906
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 5: More important, you can always move up if you want to. Also,

907
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 5: depending on who's there.

908
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 17: Mac Jones was the first round draft choice and he

909
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 17: played worse than Tommy DeVito. Tommy Divito out played first

910
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 17: round draft choice.

911
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 6: Absolutely, you know you you play to.

912
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: Win this game.

913
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Speaker 17: It's too short of a career for any one of

914
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 17: these guys, and it's gonna take more than one to

915
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 17: want to tank a football team to ever cut their

916
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 17: career short so that the team can pick somebody else.

917
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 17: And there's no guarantee you gonna be better anyway.

918
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Speaker 5: I understand fans wanting it, but understanding how any of

919
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 5: this works.

920
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 17: I think they want work works exactly. And if we

921
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 17: were doing that and I'm not listening, I make these

922
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 17: jokes on social media about this, isn't that in football

923
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 17: where you can just up and make a change and

924
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 17: get better. Right, it's their levels to this game. You

925
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 17: don't you don't get to skip all the way to

926
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Speaker 17: the championship game and go to the Super Bowl.

927
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: And right now the Giants are not playing the forty

928
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: nine ers in the Cowboys. They're playing teams in the

929
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Speaker 2: weight class. And they shown when you're playing teams that

930
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: have similar talent, they can figure out ways to win

931
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: these games.

932
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 8: Right, you think about squandering the Buffalo and the Jets games.

933
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 8: And listen, Dable came here and they established a certain

934
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 8: he and Joe Shane came to change the culture here.

935
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Speaker 8: And it takes a while to change the culture. And

936
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Speaker 8: part of the culture is to never accept losing. Correct

937
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 8: and let and you know coaches, they put their name

938
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Speaker 8: up on TV.

939
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Speaker 3: The graphic is their record.

940
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Speaker 8: You're judged by your record, so you know, to not

941
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 8: ever accept losing, to create a culture of winning. And

942
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Speaker 8: who knows what their final number is going to be

943
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 8: this year. We know they got to play Philadelphia two

944
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Speaker 8: more times, but they also play a bunch of weight

945
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 8: class games. And you want your gut, don't you want

946
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 8: your head coach of the team to be a guy

947
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Speaker 8: when it looked bleakest stuck with it and stuck with

948
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Speaker 8: the team, and stuck with the players, and stuck with

949
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 8: the plan for the organization to grind out some more

950
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Speaker 8: wins and to create that sort of mindset.

951
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Speaker 2: Absolutely eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

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Speaker 2: You guys, good for one more segment. Go ahead, Okay,

953
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Speaker 2: let's take a time out. We'll come back. We'll take

954
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Speaker 2: a couple more crawls again. Eight seven seven three three

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Speaker 2: seven sixty six sixty six. On Pepsi Giants Extra Point,

956
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Speaker 2: Giants defeat the Patriots ten to seven.

957
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Speaker 5: Heading into the buy.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Pepsi Giants extra point on the Wfan

959
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Speaker 1: Giants Radio network.

960
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Speaker 16: Topdo takes the snap step shop, you gonna throw a

961
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Speaker 16: deep fault down the right side for hire.

962
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Speaker 3: Who's got a step?

963
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 5: He makes the catch on the sideline.

964
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Speaker 19: Then did he get his feet in?

965
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Speaker 5: Yes at the forty yard line.

966
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Speaker 8: What a catch by hying right in front of Bill Belichick.

967
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Speaker 5: Reminiscent of very Omedingham the Super Bowl and Jalen Hyatt.

968
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: All three giant plays of twenty more yards belonged to

969
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hide in this game, including a forty one yarder

970
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: at Jalen Hyatt is today's player in the game, brought

971
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Speaker 2: to you by Moody's, a proud partner of the New

972
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Speaker 2: York Giants. Jalen Hyatt leading all players in yards from

973
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Speaker 2: scrimmage in this game with one hundred and nine, making

974
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Speaker 2: several plays down the field eight seven seven three three

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Speaker 2: seven sixty six sixty six. Let's go to the phones

976
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Speaker 2: and we'll go to Cliff in Manhattan, who wants to

977
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: talk about fellow wide receiver Isaiah Hodgens, who hopefully Kyle

978
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Speaker 2: Brant was watching and he's listening right now, and maybe

979
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Speaker 2: Isaiah Hodgens gets some love on the angry runs with

980
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: the big stiff arm on that touchdown, Cliff, what's going on?

981
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Speaker 20: Yes, yes, it wasn't just a touchdown that excited me.

982
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Speaker 20: I have a shout out for him, but I also

983
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 20: have a question after that. What I'm reminded of with

984
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Speaker 20: Hodgens is what happened last year. You know, he comes

985
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 20: on strong in the second last few games of the season,

986
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Speaker 20: and he has one hundred yard game in the layoff game,

987
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Speaker 20: and then he shows up this year and his snap

988
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 20: counts way down and his targets are way down, and

989
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 20: he's still expected to contribute. That's what I like about him.

990
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 20: He still doesn't get that many snaps or targets, and

991
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 20: he's showing up again like he was as good as

992
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Speaker 20: he was last year. And the question I got though,

993
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 20: you know, like Tommy's a lot of fun and he's

994
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 20: a real contributor, and so is Hiat, but I won't

995
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 20: to know how we're doing in the trenches halfway through.

996
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 20: These guys, these new guys second year, they inherited the

997
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 20: stud on each side of the line, and I was

998
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Speaker 20: looking forward to as much as we were going to

999
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 20: miss Dexter, I was hoping that Jordan Riley and DJ

1000
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 20: Davidson might get a chance to show something. I heard

1001
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Speaker 20: Schmid's name a lot during the broadcast, which I liked.

1002
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 20: But is there anything good that that came out of

1003
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 20: the D line having more chances to play today for

1004
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 20: development of those trenches?

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Speaker 3: There were some get healthy.

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00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 17: Yeah that's the best part can happen, But there were

1007
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 17: some things, you know, but they got to get better.

1008
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 17: You miss the dominance of Dexter, and that's why they

1009
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 17: had a series of you know, seven, nine, thirteen and

1010
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 17: twelve yard runs.

1011
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: But and jac and I talked about a car real quick,

1012
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: nothing fancy by the pageros either. It was downhill dwo old,

1013
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: couple teams gas scheme. They ran right down, right down on.

1014
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Speaker 17: Cover thelignment and let him get to the second level.

1015
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 17: And the difference is Dexe Lawrence can get off of blocks.

1016
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Speaker 17: These guys are not there yet. I mean we saw

1017
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 17: it a few times. They can push you back, but

1018
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 17: they don't disengage blocks. And you talk about young players,

1019
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 17: and I'll make this comparison. This was the same thing

1020
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 17: that was an issue. It was a legit issue with

1021
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 17: Keevon Thibodeau. It's no longer an issue. He gets off blocks,

1022
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 17: he moves his feet, and he has clear vision on

1023
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 17: whatever his run responsibilities are.

1024
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Speaker 3: He gets there.

1025
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Speaker 17: He's he had what two or three tackles for loss

1026
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 17: today just as they were running to the edge on him.

1027
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Speaker 8: Yeah, they were down a man in the rotation because

1028
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 8: Dexter takes a lot of snaps, so these guys had

1029
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 8: to play more snaps than they're used to and look.

1030
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: I remember, no, Leonard Williams also lost your two best

1031
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: interior alignment in the last month.

1032
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, but these guys, I think the young players are

1033
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 17: gonna be okay. And if I have to say, and

1034
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 17: I you know, I am the biggest critic of this

1035
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 17: offensive line, and I'll say it again, credit where it's due.

1036
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 17: They are getting better.

1037
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Speaker 19: This.

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Speaker 3: You know.

1039
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 17: There are some sacks that are on them, but they

1040
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 17: weren't free runner sacks. They were talent deficit se sacks

1041
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 17: at times. And I like the way they battle. I

1042
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 17: love the way they're communicating. And they didn't have a

1043
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 17: single false start.

1044
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 5: Eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that he makes a good point. They didn't

1046
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 8: have a false start. And I believe the only offensive

1047
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 8: holding penalties against the Giants were against the tight end

1048
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 8: and the wide receiver.

1049
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah absolutely, Belle jo on high Dgens had the

1050
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: two holding penalties outside.

1051
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe.

1052
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: So basically second straight week, by the way, no offensive

1053
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: holding penalties on the offensive one because they don't any last.

1054
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 17: Me correct, But I mean, listen again, this is what

1055
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 17: you want to see. This is you want to see

1056
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 17: a quarterback have an opportunity, and that opportunity comes when

1057
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 17: they don't have free runners.

1058
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1059
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 17: Right, So when we say, well, the Vito's holding the

1060
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 17: ball too long, well guess what he can you know,

1061
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 17: as opposed to earlier in the year when they didn't

1062
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 17: have a snowballs chance in hell like you had to

1063
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 17: get the ball out or eat it yourself because or

1064
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 17: be eaten because there was just too many mistakes along

1065
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 17: that offensive line.

1066
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Speaker 3: And so credit to those guys and.

1067
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 2: To before I think there was an offensive holding penalty

1068
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: keeping Giants. That was the hands of the face face

1069
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: that was decline it deep inside the territory. Thank you

1070
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: very much. Let's go to Chris in Connecticut. He's up

1071
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: next on Pepsi Giants Extra point.

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Speaker 21: Hi Chris, gentlemen, Hi, thanks for taking my call. I'm

1073
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 21: glad you brought up the word opportunity because you guys

1074
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Speaker 21: are are saying, Okay, if he wins the next couple

1075
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Speaker 21: of games, he'll be a life on back up. My

1076
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 21: question is what would he need to do to earn

1077
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Speaker 21: a spot as a starter in the league, maybe with

1078
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Speaker 21: the Giants or with somebody else. But there have been

1079
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 21: guys that came out of of you know out of

1080
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Speaker 21: nowhere and have done great as starters, and I'm wondering

1081
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 21: what he would need to do because I love him.

1082
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 21: I think we all love him.

1083
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 17: Hey, stay available because opportunities will knock in this league.

1084
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 5: Good christ question, I'll give it an answer.

1085
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 17: Beat the Eagles, Yeah, beat the Eagless.

1086
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're phone to be ringing.

1087
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 5: It's a good one.

1088
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 11: Give him some more times.

1089
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, Christmas Day's going to get a chance.

1090
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: Maybe.

1091
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 21: You know, guys get better that when that that line

1092
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 21: is healthy, you know, and he improves and keeps showing improvement.

1093
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 21: He's already got two wins under his belt back to back.

1094
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 21: You know, I say, let him roll, give him the

1095
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 21: jobs till the end of the season, you know what

1096
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 21: I mean? And and who knows, maybe he's a next

1097
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 21: Rock Perdy or someone else who knows, well, whoever.

1098
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 17: You know this is, We're going to continue to cheer

1099
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 17: him on and showing that that big blue love because

1100
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 17: he deserves it.

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Speaker 3: He's he's bawling out.

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Speaker 8: And remember, like you know, from a draft perspective, he

1103
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 8: got drafted and I'm not saying he is Rock Party,

1104
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 8: but remember from and a different draft. Remember he got

1105
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 8: drafted one place behind Brockberty because party went dead lesson

1106
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 8: in the draft.

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00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, free agents, so you got one more Yeah, I

1108
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: would do one more call before we let you guys go.

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00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 5: Let's go to Jose in New Windsor.

1110
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: He'll wrap us up here with Bob and Carl, We're

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00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: gonna keep going as they depart here on PEPSI Giants

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Speaker 2: Extra point hose.

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 21: Hey, boys, what's going on?

1115
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 11: Just to let you know.

1116
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 12: I'm over here tailgating after the big Big three, and

1117
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 12: I just want to let the Giants fans know. Hey,

1118
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 12: there's a little bit of hope left out there. You

1119
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 12: know what I'm saying, There's a little bit of hope.

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00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 12: We got to go out there play games. Get w

1121
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 12: It's not about this draft. Let's not tank, that's not.

1122
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 13: What we do.

1123
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 21: But it's about Tommy de Vito.

1124
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 11: He could do.

1125
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 12: And I just want sad now little Santino out there.

1126
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 12: My cousin just had a baby, and I appreciate that

1127
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 12: the Giants got a big w today. Let's go Giants.

1128
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 12: We gotta keep winning.

1129
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Speaker 11: Let's go.

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Speaker 5: First name to middle named Vito. Satan will still be alive.

1131
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 8: If they had easy pass and The Godfather.

1132
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Speaker 3: Listen.

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00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 17: The The last thing I want to just talk about

1134
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 17: is you know the report that came out.

1135
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 5: On Fox that Jay Glazer Jay Glazier.

1136
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 17: That said that there's tensions between Dabo and Wink Martindale.

1137
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: That could be true.

1138
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 17: It wouldn't be the first time in the history of

1139
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 17: head coaches and defensive coordinators that their's tension real quick.

1140
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 5: Carl Brian Dable was asked about them in this postgame presser.

1141
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: He says, the biggest fight Wink Brndell and I have

1142
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: had has been over the last slice of pizza. That

1143
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: was the quote, and he basically said that they're fine,

1144
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: just so the fans.

1145
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 17: You know what, when you give up six hundred plus

1146
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 17: yards in a game, or when you lose all your

1147
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 17: defensive backs and you don't make adjustments that particular game,

1148
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 17: that's enough to piss your head coach off.

1149
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that they don't communicate.

1150
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 17: But but even if they didn't, Bill Belichick and Bill

1151
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 17: par Sales didn't talk on many many occasions, and I

1152
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 17: mean screaming matches or one way screaming matches anyway where

1153
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 17: par Sales has fired the coordinator on the sideline right wink.

1154
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 17: Martindale's a one hell of a coach, and you want

1155
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 17: to know why, because they got what eleven turnovers in

1156
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 17: the last two games.

1157
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 5: None taking out the one before.

1158
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 17: Then it's it's I think they're up to eleven and three, right,

1159
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 17: eleven eleven turnovers in three games. So he knows what

1160
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 17: he's doing. These players are responding to him. Yes, there's

1161
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 17: you know, everybody's got to make adjustment because at the

1162
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 17: end of the day, it's not your team. Is the

1163
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 17: head coaches team, and it is your defense, but it's

1164
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 17: the head coaches team, and whatever you call, it's still

1165
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 17: the head coaches team. So as Bill Parcel said, you

1166
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 17: guys and get me fired. So you got to make

1167
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 17: some adjustments. And there's no secret I'm gonna wink Martindale

1168
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 17: fanboy and he's a hell of a coach. But these

1169
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 17: things happen, folks. So I don't Maybe I'm wrong, but

1170
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 17: I don't think they're anywhere close to being.

1171
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 3: On the outs on the outs, I don't think.

1172
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Speaker 8: And listen, the head coach wants the game run a

1173
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 8: certain way.

1174
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: It's his team, right, and.

1175
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 8: That's right, and if he feels that, you know you're

1176
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 8: down a bunch of dbs. Guys are hurt, and you're

1177
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 8: still running zero blitz and you got guys out there

1178
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 8: you don't think it. He's gonna tell his defensive coordinators

1179
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 8: just like he'll tell his offensive coordinator stop doing this.

1180
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 8: Get more to that. He's the final saying all this.

1181
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's why it's good that your

1182
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: head coach is in a play caller sometimes so we

1183
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: can have the overview over everything.

1184
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 8: But I think, Carl, you bring up a good point.

1185
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 8: This is an era of social media. This is an

1186
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 8: era of information. There's an ear where everybody has each

1187
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 8: other's phone numbers, so you start getting you get stories,

1188
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 8: like you said, when you played, you know coach Belichick

1189
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 8: and coach Parcels.

1190
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Speaker 5: As you know because you were on.

1191
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 8: The team, there was a lot of conflict at times.

1192
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: There was quite a few times during the course of

1193
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: a game. Yeah, on the sideline.

1194
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 5: So what happened?

1195
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: So what Barcels says, that's the Belichick. What does Belichick do?

1196
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: You just keep going about his business.

1197
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 8: Like it's like getting fired by George Steinbern. He just

1198
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 8: make sure you show up for work the next day,

1199
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 8: and he forgets that he fired and I'm sure ron

1200
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 8: Erhart had a bunch of tangles with Bill Belichick. I

1201
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 8: mean with Bill Parcells. It happens a lot more than

1202
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 8: people think.

1203
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: Because it's their team. Let's not lose sight of that.

1204
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: It's not.

1205
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 17: It's Wing Martindale's defense, but it's Brian Dables team. They're

1206
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 17: gonna be fine because as long as these players are

1207
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 17: producing and they love they love playing for Wing Martindale,

1208
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 17: just keep giving Wing Martindale players because you didn't have linebackers.

1209
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 3: You gave him linebackers. And look what they're doing now.

1210
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: And by the way, we have seen adjustments from Wink

1211
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: in the last two games, a lot more defense.

1212
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 8: Up sixty yards against the Cowboys.

1213
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 5: You better adjust. But that's the difference.

1214
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 17: But that's why he's Wink. He's a smart defensive coordinator too.

1215
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: Now some guys and by the way, we saw those

1216
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: adjustments late last year against the Vikings in the playoffs, yes,

1217
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: where he pulled back on that stuff.

1218
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 8: Some guys don't adjust. And I think that kind of

1219
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 8: led to sort of the end of the road for

1220
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 8: him in Baltimore because he just kept and hard bought

1221
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 8: it and want it, you know, and you know at

1222
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 8: some point you realize, all right, you know, all right,

1223
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 8: this is what the coach wants.

1224
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 5: We're gonna rain this in.

1225
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 8: We got these certain bodies down, We're gonna do this.

1226
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 8: And you know what, when it leads to a win,

1227
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 8: everything makes sense.

1228
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 5: Everything makes sense. So that's part.

1229
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 17: Even if it doesn't, you did exactly what you were

1230
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 17: expected to.

1231
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 6: Do, correct, and you know what.

1232
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 8: Like the other thing is like, just think about yourself

1233
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 8: at work. You have a boss, and you have a

1234
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 8: certain way that you like to do things, and you

1235
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 8: get the job done. But if your boss says to you, hey,

1236
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 8: you gotta change some of the way. This is because

1237
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 8: it's not working for our entire sales team, right, it's

1238
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 8: not working for our group or whatever. If you don't adjust,

1239
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 8: you will get fired. In any walk of life.

1240
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: Don Sperling would never do such a thing about it.

1241
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: Discuss gentlemen, enjoy your bye week. This was fun when

1242
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: he too straight heading into the buyo is always good.

1243
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: And then we got five games to go for the

1244
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: home stretch. The rest of the way at a time.

1245
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 17: Man, Let's enjoy them because as teams get de vetoed,

1246
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 17: we have more and more to talk about.

1247
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 8: This is hilarious Banks Banks created. You're down with JPP

1248
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 8: and now Carl's got a new thing gone.

1249
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: You've been de vetoed.

1250
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving gentlemen, Thank you, have a great day. All right, guys,

1251
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: let's take a time out. Well say goobye to our

1252
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: radio network when we return right here on Pepsi Giants

1253
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: Extra point Giants defeat the Patriots ten to seven.

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Speaker 5: They improved the forty.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Pepsi Giants Extra point on the

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Speaker 1: Wfan Giants radio network.

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00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 6: This defensive coordinator wink Martin beeall and you're listening to

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Speaker 6: the radio home of the Big Blue the Fan, w

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Speaker 6: FA N and w fa N FM, New York.

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Speaker 2: We're back here on Pepsi Giants Extra point Giants defeat

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00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots ten to seven. Today's statistics are

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Speaker 2: brought to you by the Archdiocese of New York. Learn

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Speaker 2: more at Cardinals Appeal dot org. Giants actually got out

1264
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: gained in this game two hundred and eighty three yards

1265
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: to two hundred and twenty Giants four point thirteen on

1266
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: third down Patriots just four to fourteen, four point four

1267
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: yards to play for the Giant four point two yards

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Speaker 2: to play for the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: So a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Things darn near equal, not a surprise given just a

1271
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 2: three point game, and Chad Rolland again had that chance

1272
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: to tie the game at ten with a potential game

1273
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: tying thirty five yard field goal with six seconds to

1274
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: go in regulation that he hit wide to the left.

1275
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Speaker 2: Individual statistics for the Giants Tommy DeVito seventeen to twenty five,

1276
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety one yards and a score, no interceptions,

1277
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: Sekuon Barkley quiet on the ground, just twelve carries forty

1278
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: six yards, had a couple big runs early, then really

1279
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: couldn't get anything going after that. Jalen Hyat led all

1280
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: players in yards from scrimmage with one hundred and nine,

1281
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Speaker 2: including a forty one yard catch, two other catches of

1282
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: twenty plus yards in that mix on just six targets

1283
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: won the Robinson four catches twenty six yards, a pair

1284
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: of catches for Darius Slayton, and a twelve yard touchdown

1285
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: catch by Isaiah Hodgens. For the Patriots, Matt Jones played

1286
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: one half twelve of twenty one eighty nine yards two

1287
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: pick Bailly Zappi played half number two. Patriots went to

1288
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: a lot more pass on early downs. When Zappi went

1289
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: into the game lod wide receiver screens, he was nine

1290
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: to fourteen for fifty four yards at an interception. Patriots

1291
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: effective on the ground thirty one carries one hundred and

1292
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: forty seven yards ninety eight for Ramandre Stevenson, including a touchdown.

1293
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: Nine carries forty six yards for Ezekiel Elliott de Mario

1294
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: Douglas six catches forty nine yards, leading the way for

1295
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: the Patriots in the passing game. Devonte Parker three catches

1296
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: forty two yards. Defensively for these two teams, the Patriots

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00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: in this game six sacks, one and a half for

1298
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: Anthrety Jennings, a half for Dietrich Wise Bentley with the sack,

1299
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: and then Christian Barmore and Gibral Peppers both the sack,

1300
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: along with rookie Keon White out of Georgia Tech Giants

1301
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: with a pair of sacks one and a half for

1302
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: jahad Ward and then Keevon Thibadeau. I guess they took

1303
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: a half a sack away from him. He had a

1304
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 2: sack at halftime, only a half a sack on the

1305
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: official box afterwards, so they gave one half of those

1306
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: sacks over to jahad Ward. Zavid McKinney led the way

1307
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: with ten tackles, eight for Bobby Ocaaraca. Both of them

1308
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: had an interception and a pair of passes defended. Giants

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Speaker 2: Football is brought to you by Verizon, the official five

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Speaker 2: G network of the New York Giants, Verizon America's most

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Speaker 2: reliable network and of course, the most important statistic of all.

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Speaker 2: Giants win the tournal for battle three to one plus

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Speaker 2: two after being plus six a week ago against Washington. Well,

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Speaker 2: it is time to say goodbye to everyone listening on

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Speaker 2: our radio network across the Tri State area and country.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening on our local flagship wfans.

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Speaker 5: Stick with us. Jonathan Casillas Paul Detino will rejoin me.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep taking your calls at eight seven seven three

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Speaker 2: three seven sixty six sixty six.

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Speaker 5: But as for those of you on our network, enjoy

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Speaker 5: your bye week.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back as of right now in fifteen days

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Speaker 2: Monday Night Football seven to fifteen PM pre game. If

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Speaker 2: there is a flex situation, we will let you know

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Speaker 2: that game could theoretically be flex back to Sunday and

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Speaker 2: swap with the Jets.

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Speaker 5: I would say likely, right, now, but it's something to

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Speaker 5: keep an eye on.

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Speaker 2: But again, that would be fifteen days from now, so

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Speaker 2: that would be Monday night, December.

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Speaker 5: Let me make sure I get this right.

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Speaker 2: Monday night, December eleventh at seven to fifteen pre game

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Speaker 2: for Giants and Packers for our next broadcast.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for being with us on our radio network tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you in a couple of weeks on the

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Speaker 2: WFN Giants radio network. But we are not done. On

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Speaker 2: sports Radio sixty six. W fan Casius Datino rejoined me

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Speaker 2: six sixty six. More audio from the locker room and

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Speaker 2: am the Fan, John Schmelt, Paul Datino, Johnathan, you see

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Speaker 2: us with you eight seven seven three three seven sixty

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Speaker 2: six sixty six. This was a game for the defense.

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Speaker 2: Let's lock and load. Keevan Thibodeau are very old. Paul Deatino,

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Speaker 2: who joins US now at a chance to talk to

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Speaker 2: him one on one after the game.

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Speaker 9: Kavion, Let's start with the fact that impact plays, tackles

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Speaker 9: for losses, sacks, force fumbles.

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Speaker 5: You just seem to be a specialist at that. They

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Speaker 5: continue to happen week after week.

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Speaker 19: What is it about your knack to doing I just

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Speaker 19: gotta keep going.

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Speaker 22: It wasn't the best day for me pass rushing, and

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Speaker 22: you know, you got to find a way to impact

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Speaker 22: the game another way.

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Speaker 9: They talk all the time about having to establish the one,

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Speaker 9: and at times they did won the ball.

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Speaker 5: You guys didn't have extra lawrence in there, but you

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Speaker 5: made the stops when you needed to. What was it

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Speaker 5: about those key moments?

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Speaker 22: Give credit to my guys that stepped up, you know,

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Speaker 22: from Jordan Riley to the interior. I mean even Jahad

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Speaker 22: had two sacks today and that's when passed. But talk

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Speaker 22: about a run. You know, he's Stephanie letting guys like

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Speaker 22: Bobby and Micah, you know, run in and make play.

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Speaker 22: So a big shout out to them, and you know,

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Speaker 22: we keep building together as a unit.

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Speaker 19: We're gonna be unstoppable.

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Speaker 9: The three takeaways again after six against Washington last week. Man,

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Speaker 9: that is a very big spark to what you guys

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Speaker 9: are trying to do.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, man, we're watching film. Guys like Bobby and myself

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Speaker 22: the Safeties, they're they're getting in together and they're watching

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Speaker 22: the film and they're breaking it down and you know,

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Speaker 22: they were becoming a family on the film.

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Speaker 3: Tap.

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Speaker 9: But what about their quarterback situation we talked to whole week.

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Speaker 5: We didn't know who was gonna be.

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Speaker 9: They wound up with Jones and Zappi and their both

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Speaker 9: How much of an issue was it to prepare for

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Speaker 9: both of them and then when you got both of

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Speaker 9: them in.

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Speaker 5: There, was it rough at all to have to make

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Speaker 5: the adjustments?

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Speaker 19: Nah, definitely not. I think we just prepare for the scheme.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 22: Obviously we know Wink has a great understanding of their

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Speaker 22: head coach and play caller, so we were able to,

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Speaker 22: you know, scheme up the team and whoever's gonna come in,

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Speaker 22: it was just gonna be interchange.

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Speaker 5: Now, what were you looking for in the last drive?

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Speaker 5: They did get into field goal range.

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Speaker 9: They missed the kick, obviously that makes you happy, But

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Speaker 9: the fact that they got so close, I'm sure give

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Speaker 9: you a little notes.

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Speaker 19: We got to stop the run. We knew that last

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Speaker 19: drive they were gonna try to run it.

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Speaker 22: They got a kind of like the fifty forty five

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Speaker 22: yard line, so you know, we knew that they were

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Speaker 22: gonna try to go for a field goal, but we

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Speaker 22: just had to bow up.

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Speaker 19: And fight the next play, and yet they missed it.

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Speaker 2: Next game on rejoined by Jonathan Cacias and Paul Detino

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Speaker 2: and Jason. We talked about this earlier in the pregame

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Speaker 2: before Paul was with us. The one thing that joked

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Speaker 2: at us, Paul was that secondary and the linebackers for

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Speaker 2: that matter, were just getting their hands on the football

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Speaker 2: a lot when the ball was in the air, and

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Speaker 2: every time nearly the Patriots actually tried to throw the

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Speaker 2: ball down the field when Mac Jones wasn't air mailing

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Speaker 2: it into the Giants sideline.

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Speaker 5: Which he did a few times early on in this game.

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Speaker 2: The Giants linebackers in safeties and cornerbacks, they were just

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Speaker 2: all over that football. They were anticipating really well where

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Speaker 2: the Patriots are trying to.

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Speaker 5: Go with the ball.

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Speaker 9: For the deficiencies that the defensive line showed, and I

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Speaker 9: think you mentioned it earlier in the program with Bob

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Speaker 9: and kral about there's no more Leonard Williams there, Dexter

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Speaker 9: Lawrence wasn't there today, and it was obvious.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they were run on a lot in this game.

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Speaker 5: They it was not great.

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Speaker 9: They they took advantage of those absences. So what happened?

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Speaker 9: The back seven wound up stepping up and played one

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Speaker 9: of its better games of the season, if not the

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Speaker 9: most sound game. I know they had six takeaways against

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Speaker 9: Washington last week, but I also thought a lot of

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Speaker 9: that was was kind of sloppy play by Washington as well.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: In fairness, I think some of that was not great

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Speaker 2: quarterback play today, no doubt the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: No doubt, but you still had to make the plays.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and in this back seven, that's two weeks in

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Speaker 9: a row now where they have made a host of

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Speaker 9: plays to really be the difference in the game, because

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Speaker 9: if the back seven doesn't get all those takeaways the

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Speaker 9: last two weeks, the Giants don't win these games.

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Speaker 2: And I thought of all the plays jac the most

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Speaker 2: impressive on was the McKinney play. You know, Okara Kay

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Speaker 2: was in good position. It was really just it was

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Speaker 2: a port throw though Banks was on top. I think

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Speaker 2: he was in cover three and he kind of overthrew

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Speaker 2: the deep crosser a little bit.

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Speaker 5: But McKinney, which to me was the turning point of

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Speaker 5: the game. That's a little bit of a teaser, folks.

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Speaker 2: He did a great job coming down from that deep

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Speaker 2: safety spot and really jumping that deep crosser and getting

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Speaker 2: on top of it for that interception that set up

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Speaker 2: the Giants game.

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Speaker 4: When you feel, well, yeah, exactly, And it was McFadden

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Speaker 4: that was underneath that play. Was he you know what

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Speaker 4: he did, which a lot of guys get themselves in trouble,

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Speaker 4: especially young guys. They don't take peaks as they're progressing

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Speaker 4: throughout their zone.

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Speaker 3: Drop.

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Speaker 4: He took a peaky sort of over outcoming. He stayed

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Speaker 4: underneath it and the only way for that quarterback to

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Speaker 4: complete the pass was to get it outside of McKinny.

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Speaker 4: I mean McFadden and McKinny was waiting right there. It

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Speaker 4: was a great break, It was a great drive. But

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Speaker 4: that's how you make those combination throws. Tommy DeVito, he

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Speaker 4: would have ate that. He would have not threw that ball.

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Speaker 4: He would have ate it probably got sacked. So when

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Speaker 4: you look at Tommy DeVito's numbers. It's because he's not

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Speaker 4: forcing the ball into tight spaces like on that particular

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Speaker 4: play which Zappy did. I was Zappy that threw that

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Speaker 4: ball right y.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: But Carl bang shaid to me the other day the

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Speaker 9: thing about DeVito, and I said, geez, Carl, you know

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Speaker 9: against Washington, he over half of those sacks were on him.

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Speaker 9: And Carl said, hey, wait a minute. How many times

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Speaker 9: did he give it away?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 5: How many turns?

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Speaker 9: I'll take a sack over a turnover any day of

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Speaker 9: the week too. And that's where Tommy DeVito has really

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Speaker 9: protected the ball well and given the Giants a chance

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Speaker 9: to be in these games. One other play before we

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Speaker 9: get to another topic, yeah, is the interception by Okak

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Speaker 9: one of the very few times they blitzed Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 9: off the edge and there was pressure in the face

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Speaker 9: and he got right in the face of the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: The boy was about to plaster him.

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Speaker 9: When I got the Simmons on the field, I said

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Speaker 9: to him, I was talking to him about the ol'

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Speaker 9: kurrike pick and he.

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Speaker 5: Goes man, I almost had that sack. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 5: but would you rather have the sack or have your

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Speaker 5: teammate get the interception.

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Speaker 9: He goes, oh ill lit baby, get the interception any

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Speaker 9: day to weak And that's the complimentary stuff that you're

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Speaker 9: talking about, where other guys who are making plays that

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Speaker 9: are unnoticed that are a part of the play.

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Speaker 2: And then the other play where okak And I said

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Speaker 2: this to jac earlier when he knocked it down on

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Speaker 2: that little slant route when he got one hand on

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Speaker 2: and he reached his hand out. Frankly, I thought if

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Speaker 2: he didn't get his hand on it, I thought Banks

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Speaker 2: had undercut the slant right. I thought he would have

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Speaker 2: had a chance an interception on that play with you,

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Speaker 2: so we obviously nobody to know how that would have went,

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01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 2: but I thought Banks had a really good coverage on

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Speaker 2: that play as well. Let's go to Frank. He's up

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 2: next on PEPSI Giants Extra point.

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Speaker 5: Hi Frank, Hey.

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Speaker 14: Guys, I talked to you last week too, and uh,

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Speaker 14: you know you had said you had asked me if

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Speaker 14: I wanted to see the Giants develop. Tommy DeVito, I

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Speaker 14: think you guys got something there. I mean, the kid

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Speaker 14: is he's solid, he's a functioning quarterback. He's not hurting

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Speaker 14: the team at all. He's contributing to the w and

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Speaker 14: uh this Nick McLeod Uh Carl. Carl had complimented that

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Speaker 14: he was involved in a lot of the sticks takeaways last.

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Speaker 5: Week, the two of a fourth bumble on a pick yep.

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Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, I mean you're finding the diamonds in the

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Speaker 14: in the roughs.

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Speaker 11: Guys.

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Speaker 14: It's a it's really Uh, it's a it's a happy

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Speaker 14: November football. Tell you, I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it.

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Speaker 14: I'm in the car all day listening to you guys

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Speaker 14: on the radio.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 14: Really, it's really great to see you know Simmons and uh,

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Speaker 14: Xavier McKinney. Uh Okara, kay. I mean everybody's contributing, Timodel,

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Speaker 14: everybody getting in like a mixed salad.

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Speaker 2: Hey, look the bottom line and rat Frank appreciate the call.

1532
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 2: You know, a guy like Nick McLeod is somebody that

1533
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 2: every NFL team could use gunner vice guy. He could

1534
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: play safety, he could play corner. He's reliable, he's big,

1535
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: he's long, he tackles well. Do you want him matched

1536
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 2: up one on one outside with the other team's number

1537
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: one wide receiver.

1538
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 5: Probably not what you're looking to do.

1539
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: But it's a guy that you have on your roster

1540
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: that can contribute on special teams and if you need

1541
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: him on defense, he's gonna come in JC and he's

1542
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: not gonna hurt yet.

1543
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. He played very well. He's been playing very well.

1544
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 4: You haven't really seen him that much on defense, but

1545
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 4: the spot work that he's been getting, he's been showing

1546
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 4: up and making really good plays. You know who I

1547
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 4: want to tip my hat to today because he's been

1548
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 4: getting a lot of slack and he's been out the

1549
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 4: lineup A Dori Jackson. He started out this game defending

1550
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 4: a couple passes really early where he was on one

1551
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 4: on one situation.

1552
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 5: He jumped the two slants.

1553
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 4: And they were beautiful plays. And you see him in

1554
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 4: no offense against Banks. But Banks plays a little bit higher.

1555
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 4: I think he relies more of it his athleticism. And

1556
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 4: then you look at at Dorry Jackson. He's a technician.

1557
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 4: He's not a big guy. I don't think he's as

1558
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 4: explosive as Banks, but he sits on routes and he's

1559
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 4: breaking and driving on routes because he's been playing the

1560
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 4: game for a lot longer than Banks has. And Banks

1561
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 4: can learn a lot from a Dory Jackson. I think

1562
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 4: that Dory Jackson is really good Banks his tools. I

1563
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 4: don't think anybody has the tools that Banks has on

1564
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 4: his team, and he needs to be able to do

1565
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 4: that technique that Dorry has to really bring his game

1566
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 4: to I think any elite level because the kid can

1567
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 4: play some football. But the Dorry Jackson showed you how

1568
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 4: to play corner today.

1569
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 9: You know what's interesting to me fotball, they only threw

1570
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 9: it flop twice all day.

1571
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:42,959
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't really throw it anyone down the field

1572
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: though they ball. They just threw a bunch of one

1573
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: no nobody.

1574
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 9: But they challenged Banks, they did. They challenged the Dory Jackson.

1575
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 9: They didn't challenge Cordell Flop. Yeah, that's fair. Now, I

1576
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 9: wonder why now he's a good player, we've seen him

1577
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 9: play well.

1578
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 5: Well, here's a question.

1579
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: How often was the Patriots and eleven personnel or flats

1580
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: on the field? Were they in two tight ends most

1581
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: of the time. I don't know the answer to that question.

1582
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: They did a lot of too tight end. They did

1583
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: a lot of too tight end. But but Flott did

1584
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 2: get his share of snaps.

1585
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 9: I'm gonna be curious to see tomorrow morning when we

1586
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 9: get his snap count, but when when he was on

1587
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 9: the field, I think I only saw two targets against him.

1588
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 5: They really did not did not really take a shot

1589
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 5: at him.

1590
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 9: And I'm thinking to myself, wait a minute, if I'm

1591
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 9: struggling as an offense, wouldn't I try to go with

1592
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 9: him rather than the veteran of Dorri Jackson or the

1593
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 9: number one pick, you know, Trey Banks.

1594
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 4: Well, if I was the offensive corner, I would go

1595
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 4: at Banks. The reason why because he's young. I think

1596
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 4: Flott has been playing.

1597
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 9: Very well, but shy Banks has shown a lot in

1598
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 9: this in this season.

1599
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, be honest, but you see how they went at him.

1600
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 4: They went at him. They had short stuff. Yes, they

1601
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 4: didn't go at him deep because I think he does a.

1602
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 3: Very phenomenal job.

1603
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 5: You don't want to do the d ball.

1604
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 3: He can run with guys.

1605
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 4: He's he's a good down the field locator of the football.

1606
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 4: But what I think he gets a little laxadaisical on

1607
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 4: those underneath throws and they kind of I wouldn't say

1608
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 4: they took advantge of him because they really didn't take

1609
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 4: advantage of anything today, you know, with only seven points,

1610
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 4: but I think they kind of saw him high in

1611
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 4: his stance early on drives and then he didn't go

1612
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 4: up and shoot his gun as we would like to

1613
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 4: see like a guy like Darnay Holmes did last week.

1614
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 4: Darney Holmes would shoot and go right at the legs

1615
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 4: of the receiver or the tight end or whoever it was,

1616
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 4: with zero leakagh yardage. Today you saw Banks a little

1617
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 4: bit I wouldn't say hesitant, but not as aggressive to

1618
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 4: get the guy down right away. And it leaked for

1619
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 4: like five six yards. And they kind of made a

1620
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 4: habit out of doing that today, the Patriots, they got

1621
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 4: it comfortable with that.

1622
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 9: They also made a habit out of trying to throw

1623
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 9: against the tight end in one on one coverage with McKinny, yes,

1624
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 9: which was not a good player because McKinny had a

1625
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 9: really good game.

1626
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 3: Yep.

1627
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 5: So by the way, Ziziki's good.

1628
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 4: But I don't know about anybody else that's gonna be

1629
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 4: able to get those one on one routes.

1630
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 3: That's like, okay, this is the matchup we want to

1631
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 3: go to fly again.

1632
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: This is preliminary stuff from Pro football focuses, is not

1633
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: I know, going through their whole process. They have twenty

1634
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: three coverage snaps for flat targeted four times, allowed three catches.

1635
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 5: For thirty yards.

1636
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 2: But I bet you some of those are the wide

1637
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 2: receiver screens because you have to that's probably where the

1638
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 2: targets came from on those.

1639
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 9: To my point, it didn't look like they really tried

1640
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 9: to do anything against him or isolate him with any routes.

1641
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 4: But I think it's evident that they don't trust their quarterback.

1642
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 4: You know, he's been benched four times now, Paul, like

1643
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 4: four times in one year. Like my thing is, you

1644
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 4: don't see that. You see a quarterback get benched once,

1645
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 4: possibly twice, and then that's it.

1646
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 3: They move on.

1647
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 5: Well, they got a Zach Wilson situation right now in

1648
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 5: New England.

1649
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 4: I mean a couple passes today from Jones.

1650
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 3: It was like who was he throwing that ball to?

1651
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 4: I mean I knew who he was throwing the ball

1652
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 4: because it was only one person there, but like it

1653
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 4: sailed ten yards over his head, or.

1654
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 2: Like the pick Bio Karake would have dropped five or

1655
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: six yards short of the receiver.

1656
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 3: It just agreed.

1657
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 5: Not very strong quarterback play there.

1658
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, the Giants just put this up

1659
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: on their Twitter feed. Obviously, We talked about it earlier

1660
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 2: the Jay Glazer report before the game that there's some

1661
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 2: tension between Brian Dable and Wig Martindell. Well, he gave

1662
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: Wing Martinell the game all after the games and then Twitter,

1663
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: and then Wig Barnell broke the team down in the

1664
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: huddle in the locker room after getting the games youself.

1665
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:13,959
Speaker 5: Just to let them know there's.

1666
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 3: No beef here. There's no beef here.

1667
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 4: We can have our in and out, we can have

1668
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 4: our go back and forth, we can have our argument,

1669
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 4: which you're going to have.

1670
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 3: These are men.

1671
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 4: These are all men that when you're in the locker

1672
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 4: room and maybe you're not performing well, maybe he did

1673
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 4: something you didn't like, or or he said something to

1674
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 4: where you know you wouldn't like to say, or whatever

1675
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 4: the case is, you get into it. You get into

1676
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 4: it with your brothers, you get into it with your coworkers.

1677
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you all work together,

1678
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,839
Speaker 4: you play together, and if you can have that respect

1679
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 4: mutually for each other, I think they'll have some success.

1680
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 4: And I think they showed it today.

1681
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Tim and Charleston. He's up next.

1682
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 2: Pepsi Giant's extra point Hi, Tim.

1683
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how you doing it?

1684
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 21: Good?

1685
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 11: To good to call again? And after calling again after

1686
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 11: when I just got a couple of quick observations. Can

1687
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 11: you all hear me?

1688
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 2: Because I'm not absolutely a loud and Tim, it sounds

1689
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 2: like you might have had a fun Sunday afternoon, Bud.

1690
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 11: Well, as always, I had my kickoff shot, I had

1691
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 11: my touchdown shot and four beers, so I'm doing okay,

1692
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 11: all right.

1693
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: I hope you had a flu shot, all right, So Ted,

1694
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: let's focus in and keep it.

1695
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 11: Clean all right now, I'm going to keep the language clean.

1696
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 11: I'm on my fourth cigar or fifth, I don't know,

1697
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 11: but anyhow, so the observations I have are number one,

1698
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 11: I love our secondary. I just hope we can keep

1699
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 11: Xavier McKinnie, even though he spat it off a little

1700
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:43,480
Speaker 11: bit and that was a little disconcerting. But because I

1701
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 11: a good secondary, I think we have a good secondary.

1702
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 11: And I don't. I think that's an area where we're

1703
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 11: in good shape. But Dory had a great game. Oh,

1704
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 11: Carrie had a great game. You know. Kvon didn't come

1705
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 11: up with any sacks, but he he.

1706
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 5: Had won half of a sack. He got credit for him.

1707
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, but but he but he played. I thought

1708
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 11: he played really well. I was watching him the whole

1709
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 11: game to see how he would do it out decks.

1710
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 11: And obviously the one thing that was obvious in this

1711
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 11: game is that we mixed Nest Exter Lawrence. But my

1712
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 11: main point is that the thing that I haven't been

1713
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 11: most impressed by, and I noticed that today with Tommy DeVito,

1714
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 11: is that he his ball security. I know, he put

1715
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 11: the ball the ground once and recovered his own fumbled

1716
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 11: it today, but even then, he always when he is

1717
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 11: in distress, has two hands on the ball.

1718
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 3: He is.

1719
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 11: Yep, he does. He's he's got one ball and that's

1720
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 11: something that Daniel Jones even and could learn from him.

1721
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 11: And you know, and I love Tyrod, but you know,

1722
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 11: his contracts up after the end of this year.

1723
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 9: And well he's got avoidable year on its avoidable which.

1724
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 11: Which is another contract. You know. But but I I

1725
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 11: would like to I'm kind of hoping that his ribs

1726
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 11: is still sore, because I'd like to see Tommy get

1727
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 11: back in there for at least a couple of or

1728
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 11: a few more games and solidify himself, because I think

1729
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 11: he would make a great number two for us. And

1730
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 11: and as I said the end of the day, when

1731
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 11: I called him with Lance and Lance and Paul, Lance

1732
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 11: and Paul, I think it was I said, you know,

1733
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 11: he's a great story, so you know, I mean, a

1734
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 11: great story is just the story. But but if he

1735
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 11: can help our team, he can help our team. And

1736
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 11: his ball security is phenomenal. I mean, how many times

1737
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 11: he's been sacked in three starts in two partial games,

1738
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 11: like no, twenty Look, I.

1739
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 2: Hear you three times, na, Tim appreciate the call it.

1740
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: I'll be twenty six sacts now in the last four games. Ye,

1741
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: when he's been there. And I think, look, I think

1742
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: you can want Tommy DeVito to to start the next game,

1743
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: but you also want Tyrod to tell it to be healthy,

1744
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 2: to be ready to go as well. So why don't

1745
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: we have that conversation out before we take the break

1746
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: about who's starting this next game for the Giants?

1747
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 5: All Right, we don't know. Let's assume, just.

1748
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: For argument's sake, that Tyrod is gonna be healthy and

1749
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: ready to go. We don't know that for sure yet.

1750
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: Nothing's being made official about that. But his I our

1751
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: stint is four weeks is done now, so he is

1752
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 2: eligible to get back if he's healthy and ready to go.

1753
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: How do you guys look at who the starter should

1754
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: be against Green Bay? Bob and Carl, we're all in

1755
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito one two straight roll with the kid. I'll

1756
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: give my Devil's advocate in the second. But I want

1757
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: to get your guys take on that first. Jac Why

1758
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: don't we start with you.

1759
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 4: I feel about Tom Devita. I've been talking him up

1760
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 4: ever since he started playing for the New York Giants

1761
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 4: because he's a Jersey guy. But then I'm also looking

1762
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 4: at his numbers. He scored forty one points in the last

1763
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 4: two weeks, four touchdowns, zero interceptions, and he's been sacked

1764
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 4: fifteen times.

1765
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: And by the way, seven of those last week was

1766
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 2: a defensive score, so it takes seven away from the.

1767
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 4: Yep, so it takes seven away, but he's still he's

1768
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 4: still scoring points. And that's something that the Giants haven't

1769
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 4: done with the other two quarterbacks, Tyrod Taylor was a

1770
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 4: phenomenal backup quarterback and Dan Jones, who had a great

1771
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. They really didn't have a competent offense

1772
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 4: this year when they were playing but Defeatos won two games.

1773
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 5: In a row sticking with Tommy.

1774
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't put a lot of stock in quarterback

1775
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 9: run loss records.

1776
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 5: I'm like Lance in that weekend.

1777
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 2: I'm okay, so you're beating me to my devil's advocate punch.

1778
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: Please build on it. No, I agree with you, go ahead.

1779
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 9: And I also believe that he's had Andrew Thomas in there,

1780
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 9: albeit a little bit nicked up. But he's had Andrew

1781
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 9: Thomas at left tackle, which the Giants didn't have the

1782
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 9: whole season prior now.

1783
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 5: He hasn't had Waller though, No, that's fair.

1784
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 9: Hasn't had Waller. He has had Barkley yep, which is

1785
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 9: a big help. And I think the offensive line has

1786
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 9: played better. But at the same time, Washington and New

1787
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 9: England were two of the three worst pass rushing units

1788
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 9: they face this year, without question, So you have to

1789
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 9: pa That's why the one loss record has to be

1790
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 9: put into context. There's too much context to look at

1791
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 9: it on its own merits. So I'm going to forget

1792
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 9: that they won the last two games. That's not part

1793
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 9: of my reasoning for saying that Tommy DeVito has earned

1794
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 9: the opportunity to have a longer leash to continue proving

1795
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 9: that he deserves a spot on a fifty three man

1796
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 9: roster next season for that reason, strictly because of his play,

1797
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 9: the development, the progress, and his personal production as well

1798
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 9: as the stuff that he hasn't done wrong. To me,

1799
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 9: gives him a longer leash. I think at this point

1800
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 9: you have to let him start against green Bay.

1801
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, I just went off of the objective

1802
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 4: stuff that I can look at on paper, you know,

1803
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 4: I understand, but I'm.

1804
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 3: Some subjective stuff that I have too. His ball placement.

1805
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 4: I think his ball placement right now whenever he does

1806
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 4: throw the ball, because he's been eating a lot of sacks,

1807
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 4: you know, twenty six sacks in the.

1808
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 3: Last four weeks and him a lot of them.

1809
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 4: Let's call him half right, But when he gets that

1810
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 4: ball out of his hands, he throws it at the

1811
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 4: right place. He enables the receivers to get yards after catch.

1812
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 5: He's been pretty accurate. He's been throwing that.

1813
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 4: Deep ball better than any quarterback we've had so far.

1814
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 4: He's thrown it better.

1815
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 5: Tyrod's deep ball was pretty good when he was Yeah,

1816
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 5: but it was.

1817
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 3: A couple of them was out of bounds.

1818
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 4: You don't many the highest one, right, But look can

1819
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 4: we can argue that back and forth. Okay, so, but

1820
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 4: what he has done, especially on those short routes right,

1821
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 4: the hitches, the slants, A lot of those passes in

1822
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 4: the press and before time of the vido took over.

1823
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 4: No matter who's playing quarterback, they weren't placed in the

1824
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 4: right position to enable the yards after catch. And you

1825
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 4: saw that happen today several times. You saw it last

1826
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 4: week several times. He's he got good ball plays.

1827
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: And by the way, I will look, first of all,

1828
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with anything you guys are saying.

1829
01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here.

1830
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 9: Can I get two more tiny points, real quick, real quick?

1831
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 9: In addition to the ball protection, because remember, every time

1832
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 9: a quarterback gets hit, that ball could come free.

1833
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 5: So in addition to all.

1834
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 9: The sacks that he's taken, he's also got some rushes too,

1835
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 9: where he has really done a good job holding onto

1836
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 9: the ball. The second thing I want to say is

1837
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 9: his dorability. No matter how many times he gets crunched.

1838
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 9: Some of them are not the most fiercest hits, but

1839
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 9: a lot of times he has been crunched, he keeps

1840
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 9: getting up well severy single time.

1841
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: Most of his sacks with him are with him already

1842
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: on the move trying to get out of the pocket.

1843
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,799
Speaker 2: Like he generally does not get blasted while he's holding

1844
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 2: the ball downfield, but he's already trying to bail by

1845
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 2: the time the rush gets.

1846
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 5: That and then he gets swallowed. Correct. I think swallows

1847
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 5: actually a really good way to put it. Ball, all right.

1848
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: So, but durability has to be a credit to him,

1849
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: a right, So here's my devil's advocate. And by the way,

1850
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 2: I think he has played well enough to earn another shot.

1851
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 2: I agree with that, and I do think there is

1852
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: value to trying to develop a young quarterback given where

1853
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: the season is at forty I think that's true too.

1854
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 2: But I will say this, and Brian Dable and the

1855
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 2: Giants have been clear about this. They're in the business,

1856
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 2: are trying to win football games, right, And there is

1857
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 2: zero question in my mind, in a vacuum right now,

1858
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor is still a better quarterback than Tommy DeVito

1859
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 2: is That to me is not a question in my head.

1860
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 4: Well, you talk about durability, you gotta throw that in

1861
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 4: here too, and he just hasn't been durable for the Giants.

1862
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 2: No, Well, he is even before he got here, he

1863
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 2: had a lot of years where he was that's something

1864
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 2: that someone right, But Tyrod's someone that came here and

1865
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 2: was told you're the backup.

1866
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 5: If the starter goes down, you're a guy. Do they

1867
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 5: feel like that.

1868
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 2: It's also to the point where, well, this is why

1869
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: we brought Tyrod tel Aer. We told him he's the backup.

1870
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: If he's healthy, he's the backup. So do they think

1871
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: that because of frankly, he played pretty well. I mean,

1872
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: if you look at his overall numbers in the games

1873
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: he was healthy except for that you know, one half

1874
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 2: against the Jets.

1875
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 5: Right in the rain game.

1876
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 2: His numbers are better than the Vito's except for the

1877
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: Vito's game against Washington where he threw for you know,

1878
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 2: two seventy five.

1879
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 5: But Washington defense is very poor.

1880
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: Right, So the Giants, if they do go with Tyrod,

1881
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 2: which I don't think is would be a necessarily bad

1882
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: decision by any means.

1883
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 3: They could go either way, right, they could go and

1884
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 3: that's ada And.

1885
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 2: The answer is easy. If you ask Brian Dable, how

1886
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: can you go with Tyrod Taylor instead of Tommy Debindo

1887
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 2: has won two straight games? You would just say well,

1888
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 2: we think Tyrod Taylor has a track record of being

1889
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 2: a better quarterback in the NFL for a longer period

1890
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: of time. We were happy with how he played when

1891
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: he was our starter before he got hurt, and that's

1892
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: the direction we want to go.

1893
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't know.

1894
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Giants know where they're going

1895
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 2: right now. They're gonna have that conversation this week. Brian

1896
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: Dable said it after the game, But I do think

1897
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 2: it's an interesting debate. I think there are good arguments

1898
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: on both sides of where to go, and I'm curious

1899
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 2: to see when they make that decision. And my guess

1900
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 2: is that we're probably not gonna go until the Wednesday before,

1901
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 2: or maybe even the Thursday before that Monday night game

1902
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 2: against the Backers, who that starter is going to be.

1903
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 5: Maybe not until the game starts.

1904
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 9: But John, to be fair, there are some questions that

1905
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 9: actually have two logical, legitimate answers, and there's no wrong answer,

1906
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 9: And that's what you're saying. That's exactly what I could

1907
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 9: not agree more. There was no wrong answer here. The

1908
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 9: only wrong answer is if he makes the decision and

1909
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 9: it doesn't turn out well, then in hindsight, it's a

1910
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 9: wrong answer, but going in there are logical, rational explanations.

1911
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 5: To go with either guy.

1912
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 9: The one point that favors Tommy is that you have

1913
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 9: seen this team play very hard under him.

1914
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 5: He does seem to have control of the position.

1915
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 9: He had shown some poise, he's shown the ability to

1916
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 9: keep the team together in the huddle. They clearly are

1917
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 9: playing for him and with him.

1918
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there are a lot of non analytical reasons.

1919
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 2: Ye, why you would do it, intangible reasons, intangible thank you, right,

1920
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: and momentum.

1921
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 5: The guys like him, they like to play with him.

1922
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 5: He brings good energy. You're one two straight.

1923
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 2: It's another check for him, do you wanna You know,

1924
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: it's the old thing when you're a kid, you're playing,

1925
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 2: You're playing with the trains on the track, right, you

1926
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: can move the lever and the little thing in the

1927
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: train track and it brings them a different track. Well,

1928
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 2: if you're having a smooth ride, why are you doing

1929
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 2: and why are you changing the track at this point?

1930
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: So to you guys point, I think there are good

1931
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: arguments both ways. All right, let's take a quick time out.

1932
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 2: We'll keep taking your calls at eight seven seven, three, three, seven,

1933
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 2: sixty six sixty six ten to seven.

1934
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 5: Giants win their second straight.

1935
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: They improved the four and eight heading into their buy

1936
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: Right here on the fan, We'll be right back with

1937
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 2: more of your calls.

1938
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 16: Man Zaffi on a playfit looking firing it over the

1939
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 16: middle of the past, intercepting by a Giant Zavi you

1940
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 16: mc kenny shoots, took the thirty five and shoved down about.

1941
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 2: And that Xavier McKinney interception was our Giants turning point

1942
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: of the game.

1943
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 5: Listen to Boomer and Geo on.

1944
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 2: Our FLAGSTI Station Wfan tomorrow morning in the nine am

1945
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 2: hour for the Giants turning point of the game contest.

1946
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 2: The first correc calling a name the game's turning point

1947
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: will win two tickets to an upcoming Giant its home game.

1948
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: Schmell Datino, casias Pepsi Giants extra point. The Giants defeat

1949
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots ten to seven. Got a little

1950
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 2: dicey at the end. Is Chad Ryland lined up for

1951
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 2: a potential game tying thirty five yard field goal, but

1952
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 2: the ball sores wide left.

1953
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 5: I think it was still missing at that point. Pain.

1954
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 9: Oh yes, I was down there and you know for

1955
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 9: the last oh, I don't know, it was almost the

1956
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 9: whole fourth quarter. Maybe the fans it was. It was steady. Now,

1957
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 9: it wasn't very heavy, but it was steady, like a

1958
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 9: misted right, a little heavier than that.

1959
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go back to the phones here, guys,

1960
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 2: we got a couple of segments left.

1961
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 5: Let's go to Dan in Denville on de veto Dan,

1962
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 5: what's up?

1963
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 11: Hey?

1964
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 13: I just want to I was talking about Tommy and out.

1965
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 13: I thought Tommy today was he was. He wasn't excellent,

1966
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 13: but he was enough to get.

1967
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 12: That win, and that's all we need.

1968
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 23: I want.

1969
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 14: I want to see him and open the next few games.

1970
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 13: I don't want to see Tyrod go in.

1971
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 14: I want to see what time he's got.

1972
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 13: We have nothing to lose, and I want to what

1973
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 13: he can do.

1974
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 14: Realistically, we have nothing to lose, and let's let's let's

1975
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 14: give this guy a shot.

1976
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 5: No, Dan, thanks for the call. I mean, look, I

1977
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 5: totally get where you're coming from on that. I'm with Paul.

1978
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm not a big win loss record guy for quarterbacks.

1979
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 2: I don't think that's that that's an applicable thing. I mean,

1980
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 2: you have to look at the opponents you're playing too.

1981
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 2: You know, this isn't some of the better opponents the

1982
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: Giants have played over the course of the gate off

1983
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 2: the course of the year. I mean, the Patriots are objectively,

1984
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 2: if you go by point diffrench or the worst team

1985
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 2: in the AFC this year. They're probably gonna have a

1986
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 2: top three pick this year. You know, Bill Belichick's parting

1987
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 2: gift for them might be, you know, a quarterback in

1988
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 2: the draft to try to be the air parent to

1989
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 2: Tom Brady. But Tommy, look the Giants, and I think

1990
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 2: we've seen this with Brian Dable, and we saw this

1991
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: the way they played the Jet Game too. The way

1992
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 2: he sees a game going, he's willing to adjust how

1993
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 2: he plays. He brings the aggression meter down, just imagine

1994
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 2: like the big like meter in the Carnival, and then

1995
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 2: he kind of just doesn't.

1996
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 5: And the ren lights just go down, down, down, down,

1997
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 5: down down down.

1998
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 2: In a game like this, when you're facing a team

1999
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 2: where you have faith in your defense to get stops

2000
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: and not give up points, the same way it wasn't

2001
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 2: that Jet game right a few weeks ago, where you're

2002
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: gonna rely on your defense to get stops. You're gonna

2003
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: ask your offense just enough to take a lead and

2004
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: win the game.

2005
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 5: And you know what the difference was this.

2006
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: Week, the Patriots missed the field goal and against the

2007
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: Jets they made a couple crazy plays at the end

2008
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: to get the ball down the field, and that's how

2009
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: those two games kind of went different directions. But in

2010
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 2: the end, the two games in terms of how they

2011
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: were played were actually pretty darn similar, even though obviously

2012
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 2: the Giants did allow Tommy Devi to pass the ball

2013
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 2: more in this game because the weather was a little

2014
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 2: bit better, and the Patriot defense is certainly not at

2015
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 2: the level of what the Jets defense was a few

2016
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: weeks back. But it's that complimentary football to your point, JC,

2017
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: that Brian Dable, which frankly he probably learned under Bill

2018
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: Belichick ball su that is willing to lean into to

2019
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: try to get some of these low scoring, hard fort

2020
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 2: and victories.

2021
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 3: My question is, though, is this sustainable because last week.

2022
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: If you're playing teams like the Patriots, yes, if you're

2023
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: playing better teams, no, you're gonna have to play it.

2024
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 4: Differently, because when you add last week into this week,

2025
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 4: every single offensive point was scored off of a takeaway

2026
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 4: and I'm all about takeaway.

2027
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: There was one touchdown last week that was not off

2028
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:17,839
Speaker 2: a takeaway against Washington, just one.

2029
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 3: It was that was the defensive touchdown though.

2030
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 5: No, no, there was one offensive touchdown that was punt.

2031
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so tracked one touchdown.

2032
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 2: Dude, Your point stands in two weeks one one score

2033
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 2: not off of a takeaway, correct and pick for a

2034
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 2: TV and a field goal today? Right, how about this

2035
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 2: stat and by interruption and the field goal was off

2036
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 2: an interception too, That's what I just said. And so

2037
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: it was a touchdown there, just yes, and and and

2038
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 2: here's the stat that blew my mind. You may have

2039
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: said this before. I just realized this. I didn't realize

2040
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 2: it until just now. They did not have a drive

2041
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 2: of fifty hards as yeah, yeah, earlier the podcast you did, okay,

2042
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: and they have the drive of more than seven.

2043
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 3: That was similar last week too.

2044
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 4: Last week the Commanders had several drives of twelve thirteen

2045
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 4: yard and the Giants really couldn't sustain and drive. And

2046
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 4: the reason why I ask that question because yeah, no,

2047
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 4: you're good. The reason why you gotta ask that question

2048
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 4: because it's like, do you rely on that deep ball

2049
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 4: you know, do you rely on the takeaways? And I

2050
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 4: would say yes, But at the same time, but the

2051
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 4: Giants can't create takeaways. Do you say, are you saying

2052
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 4: that the Giants cannot score? And the Giants have to

2053
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 4: be able to answer that part. If the defense take

2054
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 4: a step back and possibly doesn't create takeaways, yes, they

2055
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 4: might do better against the run, Yes they might do

2056
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 4: get better against the past. But if they can't create takeaways,

2057
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 4: can the Giants offense drive the ball down the field

2058
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 4: a touchdown?

2059
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,759
Speaker 5: For Hen's part of the Tyrod Taylor or Tommy Divido debate?

2060
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 3: Right right, yep.

2061
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 9: To my philosophy here, it's not even about the takeaways

2062
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 9: as much as it is game flow. The Giants can't

2063
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 9: get behind in game flow. With the way their offense

2064
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 9: has been producing this season, it virtually eliminates their opportunity

2065
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 9: to win the game. The game flow has to be

2066
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 9: either in their favor or even for them to be

2067
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 9: able to compete.

2068
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 5: And stay in the game for four quarters.

2069
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 9: Once the game flow gets away from them, Jonathan, they're

2070
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 9: hamstrong offensively. For whatever the reason, Noel Waller offensive line,

2071
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 9: banged up quarterback is inexperienced. The game flow to me

2072
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 9: is the biggest thing that they've got to get under

2073
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 9: control to stay in the game.

2074
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 3: And that's what they've did the last two weeks.

2075
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 4: They did the last two weeks, but a lot has

2076
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 4: to do with them taking the ball away though. You know,

2077
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 4: like the thing is for me, I don't call it

2078
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 4: a turnover on defense because you have to take it.

2079
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 3: You have to take it.

2080
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 4: From the offense or special team you want to take away,

2081
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 4: whatever case is, I don't want to call it a turnover.

2082
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 4: I call it a takeaway. And the Giants have done

2083
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 4: very good the last two weeks. I mean probably leading

2084
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 4: the league right now in the last two weeks.

2085
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 2: Taking a back and we said this, these a lot

2086
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: of these players are not gifts from the other team.

2087
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: A couple of the plays today, the one thing old

2088
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 2: Ka was a little bit of a gift. But you know,

2089
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 2: Bank's been a nice play. McKinney, Rady be a really

2090
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 2: nice play.

2091
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 5: Last week.

2092
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 2: McLeod had the really tough over the shoulder interception. They

2093
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: punched a couple of ball out so just you know.

2094
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 3: They're doing it. Please, But what I would like.

2095
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 4: To see, like I said, and because I think this

2096
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 4: this is very important, especially when to finish out this

2097
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 4: season at the end of the year. You got the

2098
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 4: Eagles the last two weeks of the season to two

2099
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 4: to that last three weeks of the season.

2100
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 5: How do you have to.

2101
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 4: Spoil because I want to see continue improvement. I think

2102
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 4: the last two weeks we've seen a team that was struggling,

2103
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 4: struggling to win a game for the first nine weeks

2104
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 4: of the season. Last two weeks, they found a way

2105
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 4: to win a couple of games. They found a way

2106
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 4: to win a couple of games, mostly relying on the

2107
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 4: defense in their takeaways. The Giants have to figure out

2108
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 4: a way to be more sustainable, you know, more sustainable

2109
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 4: as a team, not just offensively, because yes, the ebb

2110
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,839
Speaker 4: and flow of a game, but we watched the Giants

2111
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 4: beginning of the season have it wasn't momentum, wasn't ebb

2112
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 4: and flow. It would just flow from the other team

2113
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 4: scoring points, and they couldn't stop them because their offense

2114
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 4: could not produce points because the defense weren't wasn't playing

2115
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 4: at a high level, or wasn't as disruptive, was isn't

2116
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 4: that dominant, and he weren't taking the ball away. So

2117
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 4: the Giants offense couldn't do anything. They still have to

2118
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,480
Speaker 4: figure that part out, Paul, They have to figure.

2119
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 9: I don't disagree with that, but I'd like to think

2120
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 9: that at some point down the stretch, and maybe before

2121
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 9: the two Philadelphia games, which are at the very end

2122
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 9: of the season, I'd like to see this lineup as

2123
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 9: whole as possible. I'd like to see Waller being able

2124
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 9: to play. I'd like to see Dexter Lawrence being able

2125
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 9: to play. I'd like to see Slayton getting back to

2126
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 9: his full reps. If those things, If Evan Neil can

2127
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 9: get healthy again, and let's see if he can play well. Look,

2128
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 9: I know he has been very up and down. He's

2129
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 9: had a lot of Nixon bumps and bruises, but you're

2130
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 9: gonna honestly, I mean, look, Tyree Phillips is a really

2131
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 9: good guy, but you know he's limited to what he

2132
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 9: can do physically. He's not as physically gifted as Evan Neil.

2133
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 9: And by the way, Waller is.

2134
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,759
Speaker 5: Eligible to return after the.

2135
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 9: So if the Giants can get some of these key

2136
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 9: components back, now I can be as demanding as you

2137
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 9: and say, felas all right, I don't want to hear

2138
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 9: about game flow. I want to hear about you guys

2139
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 9: taking it to the other team right with your starting

2140
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 9: lineup intact.

2141
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 5: That's what I want to say.

2142
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 4: I still don't think the Giants are gonna walk off

2143
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,600
Speaker 4: the bus here, we'll park their cars, come in to

2144
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 4: the stadium and they're gonna just beat a team, like

2145
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 4: just go out and just we're gonna run this and

2146
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 4: you can't stop us.

2147
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 3: I think it has to do a lot with play calling.

2148
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 3: I think you have to.

2149
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 4: Put your team in an advantageous positions to win the game.

2150
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 4: You can't have Tommy DeVito trying to do too much

2151
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 4: because I think he's a guy that will sit in

2152
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 4: that pocket as we've seen the last couple of weeks,

2153
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 4: and he will wait for routes to get open. A

2154
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 4: lot of quarterbacks don't do that right, and it worked

2155
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 4: for him today because he was able to step up

2156
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 4: and complete some really good BAA down at jail.

2157
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 9: Flow has to be manageable, or your play calling has

2158
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 9: to get thrown off kilter because now you're asking Tommy

2159
01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 9: to do too much.

2160
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 2: And look, I'll say this as well, and I didn't

2161
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: mean to take anything away from Bobby o'careg. It does

2162
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 2: a great job, you know, reading those right patterns and

2163
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 2: everything like that, that being the right play to make those plays.

2164
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 2: The next two opponents, you have the Packers at home,

2165
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 2: then you're in New Orleans. We know what a nightmare

2166
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 2: has been for the Giants traditionally as a franchise playing

2167
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 2: in New Orleans.

2168
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 5: I don't take that that seriously because.

2169
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 2: Every game is different, the players are different, So I

2170
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 2: don't take that Raoul.

2171
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 5: One thousand percent.

2172
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 2: So I'm not like my st but look, those teams

2173
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 2: are not you know, cowboys, they're not the forty nine ers,

2174
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,839
Speaker 2: but they're also a lot better than Newing with Patriots.

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Speaker 2: So if you're in like let's say you're in like

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Speaker 2: the welter weight class, now the flyweight class right now,

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Speaker 2: you're jumping up to let's say, like the middleweight class

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Speaker 2: next week and the week after that with the Packers

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Speaker 2: and the Saints. Right, So, I think, to Jac's point,

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Speaker 2: you basically just squeaked out here because.

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Speaker 5: Of a miss thirty five yard field goal today.

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Speaker 2: With the win, you have to play better the next

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Speaker 2: two weeks then you did today. If you want to

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Speaker 2: beat the Packers and the Saints.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, fair, fair, get fair, get some guys back. You

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Speaker 5: got two weeks you're gonna buy. So let's see if

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Speaker 5: if some of those guys can get back.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this isn't like where Andrew Thomas and Sequon

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01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 2: Barkley are at.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the impacts that dexter warrance.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's the best players you're talking about, and

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Speaker 4: Waller's legit.

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Speaker 5: I mean, how what would Tommy to be? That's fair,

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Speaker 5: that's fair. I don't disagree with that.

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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, man, it's not always that simple.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you get guys back at complicates things. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's like, oh man, I gotta get the battle wall.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, you want Lord's back?

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Speaker 3: No no, no no. Not that I'm talking about Waller, you know.

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Speaker 4: And and I use this as an example, maybe a

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01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 4: bad example, but remember when h OBJ went over to

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01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 4: the Cleveland and he really couldn't do anything.

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01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 3: It's like they complicated things over there for them. You

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01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 3: knows WoT that he added to them.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh my god, and this is Obj post

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01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 4: New York, still in his prime before you start getting

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Speaker 4: all of the injuries, right.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's what you're running into. With Darren Waller. No, no, no,

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Speaker 5: I hope not.

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Speaker 3: But it can complicate things.

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01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 4: Giving a young quarterback, he's like, oh, maybe Darren wall

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01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 4: is the primary target. He might force a couple things,

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01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 4: because that's the thing we haven't really seen. We haven't

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01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 4: seen him forcing throws. I'm not saying it's gonna happen,

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01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 4: but I'm just saying I've seen it happen. You know,

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01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 4: it's something that is present because you all of a sudden,

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01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 4: you have this amazing player and you want to get

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01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 4: him targets. You want to get the ball because he's

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01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 4: good enough.

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Speaker 2: All right, final, final call to take that chance. Let

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Speaker 2: me see those guys come back. Okay, final call. The

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Speaker 2: show is James and North Arlington. He's gonna wrap us

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01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 2: up today. James, what's up.

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Speaker 13: Well, it's a.

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Speaker 23: Great discussion, and but I just want to make a point.

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Speaker 23: I know maybe it's a little too far fetched, but

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Speaker 23: if we go back to nineteen seventy eight, now, Phil Simms,

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01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 23: there was one to cut the guy and he can

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01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 23: really take a beat. And I know you've made a

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Speaker 23: point on boxing, which I think is very very cool

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01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 23: that you're comparing the veto to a boxer because that

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01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 23: he really can't take a beating, and yet he did

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01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 23: not make what you were saying were really aaronic throws,

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01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 23: which I think is very important. Phil Simms, who really

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01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 23: got beat up at the beginning. Then it's like.

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Speaker 13: A lot of people thought he was going.

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Speaker 23: To be cut. He was really tough, and he showed

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Speaker 23: that the toughness could add to be coming a better quarterback.

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Speaker 13: What do you think about that?

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01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 5: That's true? Appreciate it, Jame.

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01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 2: In fact, Phil Simms from years two, three, four, and

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01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 2: five with his Giants career, suffered season ending injuries in

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01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 2: four consecutive seasons. In eighty two, he ripped up his

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01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 2: knee in the preseason missed the entire year. There were

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01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 2: people who screamed he was a bust. He fumbled too much,

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01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 2: he got hurt too much, he threw too many interceptions.

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Speaker 2: But the economics of the game were different. This is

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Speaker 2: why I'm all such a big fan of the salary cap.

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Speaker 2: He does it exactly, John, You know exactly where I'm

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01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 2: going ahead.

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01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,799
Speaker 5: Don't cut too far. No, it's simple.

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01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 9: The business of the game won't let you hold on

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Speaker 9: to guys like that and have patience. But the Giants

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01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 9: had patient with Phil and look how it all turned around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're you're seeing things from I think

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01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 4: Tommy DeVito. The intangibles that people can surround themselves, people

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01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 4: can be feel encouraged, and people can kind of you know,

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Speaker 4: like you got everybody in here pregame we're talking about outside.

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01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 4: You know, we're doing you know, the pregame stuff, and

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01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 4: I'm interacting with fans it.

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01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 3: Was doing this and they're talking about the time of DeVito.

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01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 4: You know, so not only is he grasping the fans' attention,

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01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 4: but that grit that he's showing that intangible stuff that

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01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 4: doesn't show up when you're doing the scouts and the numbers.

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01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 4: It's not something you could read about. You have to

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01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 4: watch it. You have to see it in person. And

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01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 4: he's showing that and the players get motivated by that,

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Speaker 4: they get inspired by that, and that's something that you

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01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 4: can't replicate. There's no draft pick, there's no status, there's

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01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,639
Speaker 4: no actual thing that can measure that. But Tommy DeVito

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Speaker 4: has it. And I think you've been seeing at the

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Speaker 4: last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: It's charisma, right, they have to put shortly, Yeah, it's charisma.

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01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 5: There's one thing that everybody in the building can shape.

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01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 9: You don't have to look through binoculars to find this intangible.

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01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 9: Tommy DeVito does not make a bad play worse. I

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01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 9: talked to Jonathan about this. We will watching the game,

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01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 9: and for example, you take the sack. You take the sack,

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01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 9: but you don't fumble, you don't turn it over, you

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01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 9: don't run thirty yards backwards when you're in trouble to

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01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 9: escape pressure and wind up giving up a thirty yard

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01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 9: sack instead of a ten yard sack.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't make bad plays worse.

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Speaker 9: And in this league, with all the mediocrity and with

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01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 9: all the teams that are so close together, that's an

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01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:31,719
Speaker 9: important fact.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break here on Pepsi Giants Extra Point.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll wrap things up. Giants defeat the

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Speaker 2: Patriots ten to seven, heading into there by. We'll talk

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01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 2: about that and more when we return after this. Back

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Speaker 2: These guys have one foot in the buy're ready your guys' thoughts.

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01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 2: We got a probably fifteen days here as long as

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01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 2: a Giants Monday Night game does not get flexed, which

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Speaker 2: is still not impossible, but as of right now, fifteen

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01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 2: days from now against the Packers on Monday Night.

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Speaker 5: Final thoughts, Jac you go first?

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Speaker 4: Well, Like I said, the points I've been making today

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Speaker 4: is the Giants have to find a sustainable way to

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Speaker 4: put out an offense. You know, whenever they come out there.

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01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 4: They can't rely on the defense to always be to

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Speaker 4: have success, you know. And I think what they've done

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01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 4: today they showed a couple times and even when ty

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01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,520
Speaker 4: Rob was playing that did the ability to take shots downfield.

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01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 4: Jalen Hied being that guy, I would expect his targets

2313
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 4: to go up. The guy is a tremendous downfield receiver.

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01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 4: He has a great, great job when that ball is

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01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 4: in the air, track and that ball it's his whenever

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01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 4: that ball is in the air, and the willingness to

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01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 4: throw it from Tommy DeVito. I think that's something that

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01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 4: hasn't really been present with the giant, giant offense, and

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01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 4: I want to see that continue because I need to

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01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 4: see more from the offense. He can't rely on defense,

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Speaker 4: especially when it comes to later in the season when

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01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 4: you know who comes to town ball.

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Speaker 5: My thoughts are really shimple here.

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Speaker 9: I love the fact that this team has stuck together

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Speaker 9: and been very gritty of the last couple of weeks

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Speaker 9: that they easily could have lost. I mean, the Avalanche

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01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 9: has really sent the snowball downhill on this season. And

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Speaker 9: instead of folding the tent, instead of stopping listening to

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01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 9: the coaches, instead of pointing fingers at offense and defense,

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01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 9: instead of breaking up and saying woe is me, this

2331
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 9: team has really really come together and they fought for

2332
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:29,640
Speaker 9: the coaches, they fought for each other, they fought for themselves.

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Speaker 5: And these were two very gritty wins.

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Speaker 9: And the intensity and the emotion john that I've been

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Speaker 9: able to feel on the sideline at the end of

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Speaker 9: both of these victories. You get intensive emotional really, but

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01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 9: it comes from it's fueled by the bench.

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Speaker 5: These guys.

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Speaker 9: You've been on these benches, Jonathan, you know what that

2340
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 9: feels like when a bench is defeated and morally been gutted.

2341
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Speaker 9: These guys are not, and that's to me is very tangible.

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Speaker 2: They're playing hard. I agree. I just think it's about

2343
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 2: time to buy showed up. This is late man, late

2344
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 2: December bye week. Come on December bye week. There's only

2345
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 2: five games to go. Obviously, I've never been in this

2346
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 2: like like JC, like a player. I can only imagine

2347
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 2: how much your body's probably hurting it this time of

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01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 2: year without having your bye week. I know, mentally, just

2349
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 2: being in the grind of this since the last week

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01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 2: of July. You're looking at what is that five months

2351
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 2: now of just four months of just grinding without having

2352
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 2: any you know, really free weekends, time off. The players

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01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 2: get to get released now. They're gonna be in on Monday.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna see him after that based

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01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 2: on the schedule I've seen. And guys go out there

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Speaker 2: and relax, enjoy a few days off, enjoy your next weekend,

2357
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 2: take a little bit of a short relaxing trip, put

2358
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 2: your feet up, get healthy, relax, come back and ready

2359
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 2: to play your best football over the final five games.

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Speaker 4: Hurt yourself or get hurt, or do anything to put

2361
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:58,679
Speaker 4: their team in a bad situation.

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01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Hence, relax, sing, put your feet up, get some nice

2363
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 2: R and R, and don't do anything crazy.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So everybody enjoy your bye weeks. Thanks for being

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Speaker 2: and we'll see you this week. And a big Joe

2387
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 2: Shane press conference tomorrow, by the way, we'll coverage that.

2388
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 2: I think we'll kick off live tomorrow at twelve thirty

2389
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 2: as he does his bye week discussion about where the

2390
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 2: Giants are as a team, and probably some big picture

2391
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 2: stuff organizationally as well.

2392
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:19,759
Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll get some.

2393
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 2: News out of that for Bob Papa for Howard cross Sport,

2394
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 2: Carl Banks Fort, Paul Detino for Johnathan.

2395
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 5: You see us an our entire crew. Enjoy your bye week, everybody.

2396
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time on PEPSI Giants Extra Point

2397
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 2: on the WFA Giants Radio Network.

2398
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 5: You enjoy the rest of your weekend.