Speaker 1: Whoa. Well, well, look at us here talking about the NBA.
Speaker 1: We're already into the summer action. A summer league is
Speaker 1: kicked off. The bulk of free agency has taken place,
Speaker 1: although some teams that I wish for a little bit
Speaker 1: more active are not. Uh and Team USA is getting
Speaker 1: ready for Olympic action in Paris. We're gonna get into
Speaker 1: all of that and more with hoos and creator CJ
Speaker 1: Toldono on today's episode. I'm Miles Gray and.
Speaker 2: I'm producer Jabari infra Jet.
Speaker 1: That's right, and this is my producer, Jabari got mad boosty. Yes,
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Speaker 2: We can do that.
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Speaker 1: the tech. Look out there's a little show time, won't
Speaker 1: you go y honest? C J Toldano, Look the man
Speaker 1: who behind the fantastic brand following, you know, not the
Speaker 1: movement now, it's not just it's not just a it's
Speaker 1: a move and I see everybody rocking your follow through
Speaker 1: here too. It's we gotta get used to them. We
Speaker 1: gotta get both of you guys some stuff, you know
Speaker 1: that try and get some stuff. But it works, It
Speaker 1: works every time.
Speaker 3: And and I do like you saying that as a movement,
Speaker 3: now people can follow through it.
Speaker 1: You have to follow through. Yeah, what did I see?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I saw something like recently, something big and somebody's rocking
Speaker 4: follow through And I was like doing the Leonardo DiCaprio meme, like,
Speaker 4: oh we got guy John Wall.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know if it was John.
Speaker 4: I think I may have seen it like completely out
Speaker 4: of context and maybe you didn't even look. The next
Speaker 4: time I remember made you know how it is. That's
Speaker 4: how you know your big you know exactly. And also,
Speaker 4: like I said, along with John Wall, hosts of The
Speaker 4: Point God podcast, So it is good to have you
Speaker 4: because you know, as we are all big Laker fans,
Speaker 4: there are many other teams making moves in free agency.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: And I just I just I just need a support
Speaker 4: group to kind of to just parse through all everything
Speaker 4: that's happening. You know, Look, Jabari, I know all about
Speaker 4: the second Apron, you know what I mean. So you know,
Speaker 4: we don't have to we don't have to talk about
Speaker 4: that because I know exactly what it means in every
Speaker 4: single way, at least.
Speaker 2: At least one of us does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't need to know about.
Speaker 5: Aprons to know that the Lakers didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh right, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: They re signed Max Christie four years, you know, thirty
Speaker 2: two million. That's what's up.
Speaker 3: That was just thinking about it now. When that happened
Speaker 3: in the first five minutes, I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 3: we got that out of the way, and then we
Speaker 3: got rosen Lori marketing.
Speaker 1: They're all on the way.
Speaker 5: I'm getting ready, you know, ribbing my hands together and nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I said, look, let's go through some of the winners,
Speaker 1: and I guess we're some of the losers too. With
Speaker 1: just I mean, obviously later on in the summer we
Speaker 1: do more in depth you know, breakdowns to kind of
Speaker 1: let y'all know where things settle out. But you know,
Speaker 1: top line, we should just look at everything that's happened.
Speaker 1: I feel like, have we even talked about the I
Speaker 1: don't think we even talked about the Clay move since
Speaker 1: the last time we recorded. So yeah, there's that. Well,
Speaker 1: let's start with Okay, no Clay I mean, well, did
Speaker 1: either you even want Clay? I wanted it. I wanted it,
Speaker 1: but I was cautious about it.
Speaker 3: Obviously, we're all cautious after we we do those like
Speaker 3: hometown trades and out. I was curious of what we
Speaker 3: were going to give up up for it. It didn't
Speaker 3: look like too.
Speaker 5: Much the Dallas got for him, but you know, I
Speaker 5: wanted him.
Speaker 1: I wanted them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I wasn't gonna be like, well no, but
Speaker 4: deep down I was like, please stay healthy, stay healthy,
Speaker 4: please let and you do that thing in your mind.
Speaker 4: It's like being in LA will rejuvenate you and rediscover everything. Right.
Speaker 3: But people are throwing around that ray Allen Miami heat thing,
Speaker 3: and I totally but I convinced myself of that that
Speaker 3: we were going to have that ray Allen Miami heat
Speaker 3: here right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, I'll keep it. I'll keep it a
Speaker 2: stack with you. I was in favor of it until
Speaker 2: I heard it they were considering four years. Look y'all know,
Speaker 2: I'm in favor. Guys get your money, and you're like
Speaker 2: happy when players get paid except for when it's by
Speaker 2: my team when they're on this side of Yeah, but hey,
Speaker 2: you know what good for him going to Dallas. It
Speaker 2: ended up working out, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, I wish you the best of luck. Oklahoma
Speaker 4: City added Caruso and Harden scene. Uh to dude, this
Speaker 4: team was already looking great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're stacked. That addition again, gonna call that a
Speaker 1: winner to see that, because oh.
Speaker 4: My goodness, that was that was just a masterful trade.
Speaker 4: Well they got giddy out Caruso in. It's just looking
Speaker 4: I see no weaknesses.
Speaker 1: Maybe Jack should have had that that ticket for this
Speaker 1: season the next year of the Oklahoma City Thunder winning
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like every move was in spite
Speaker 3: of the Lakers, you know what I mean, everything has
Speaker 3: this like take that Lakers, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah for sure. Oh remember him, CJ.
Speaker 2: To your point, the next one they make when they
Speaker 2: steal Laurie and hurt everybody's feelings, that's gonna be the
Speaker 2: one that really hurts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my goodness.
Speaker 2: They still have they still have a treasure trove of
Speaker 2: assets that they can move, whether it's you know, guys
Speaker 2: that are currently you know, on the roster, or the
Speaker 2: or their future picks. They realistically could push all in
Speaker 2: right now and something. You know, I would not be
Speaker 2: surprised if they did.
Speaker 4: The Knicks they got re signed. I think you know,
Speaker 4: Og was the big piece.
Speaker 1: You don't have to make sure he was coming back,
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm not gonna I'm not like losing
Speaker 1: my mind. But yeah, no, they're good. Good bit of business.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, good bit of business for you.
Speaker 3: The East is slowly getting better, you know, for some reason,
Speaker 3: the city. You know, well, I'm sure we'll get to
Speaker 3: the other teams, but it's.
Speaker 1: Just like, I I just yeah, the Celtics are still
Speaker 1: the best team over there.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, and and maybe and the Bucks did
Speaker 3: too many things to mess up their situation, so that
Speaker 3: was gonna be my only threat to them. And then
Speaker 3: and for some reason, I'll just never say. I just
Speaker 3: don't feel right no matter. The Sixers could get ninety
Speaker 3: six Jordan, and I'm like, something's gonna happen over there.
Speaker 1: To Jack here.
Speaker 2: We have Jack here, Jack. Jack has made his appearance.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just energetically to be we could we could
Speaker 1: have a whole team of ninety six Jordan's and just's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Uh, But yeah, the Sixers signed obviously, Paul
Speaker 1: George Eric Gordon re signed, Kelly oubre Andre Drummond is
Speaker 1: back in town them yeah, Martin out of nowhere. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so uh uh. I on paper, I'm like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a winner.
Speaker 4: But I think my close proximity to a Sixers fan
Speaker 4: has also, like by Osmosis poisoned me too.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, but you never know, man, Like it's
Speaker 1: it's it is the it is the soft knee crew
Speaker 1: over there, and I'm a little worried about that. For sure.
Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've seen that reference on you know,
Speaker 2: like on Twitter. I'm gonna be honest with you, I
Speaker 2: really want this for Jack. Look if my team's gonna
Speaker 2: if my team it up and we'll get to him later,
Speaker 2: if my team is not gonna do anything, I really
Speaker 2: want this for Jack. Yeah, I'd be lying it. I'd
Speaker 2: be lying if I said I was confident when it
Speaker 2: comes to you know, the injury history of some of
Speaker 2: those guys, and you know, and that's not to it's
Speaker 2: not to you know, rain on anybody's parade. You know,
Speaker 2: like Philly fans, they have the right to celebrate, you know,
Speaker 2: getting PG. But I think all of us know we'll
Speaker 2: be holding our breath, you know, up until the end.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, San Antonio Spurs, Chris Paul has entered
Speaker 1: the chat. Uh I that this feels.
Speaker 4: I'm and prior to moves of Chris Paul like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we'll see, like we'll see what happens, But this feels
Speaker 4: just because Wemby is in such need of somebody like
Speaker 4: Chris Paul, I feel like that that's that's probably a
Speaker 4: win for them, no regardless of what happens, whether it's
Speaker 4: just like what's happening on the court or just by
Speaker 4: having someone around like that just to help you just overall,
Speaker 4: you can help you see the game differently. And yeah,
Speaker 4: Harrison Barnes also like, look at this. Wembin Yama born
Speaker 4: January fourth, two thousand and four. Chris Paul's debut November one, two.
Speaker 3: Lord, we're so I was a cool, grown adult when
Speaker 3: CP three, you know, came in. What I just saw
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag in an interview. Yes, say he was born
Speaker 3: in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not real. What he's one in.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and six. I don't know if it was
Speaker 2: the same interview, but he like they asked him the
Speaker 2: greatest team of all time and he hit us with
Speaker 2: eighty six Celtics, which shut the hell up. Also, we
Speaker 2: understand you. You know you watch some games with your
Speaker 2: daddy and I'm not mar Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like when we used to say, like, oh, I
Speaker 3: like early Pink Floyd, but we just had heard someone
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 1: You know, do you remember that like video that was
Speaker 1: blowing up on TikTok where someone was just talking trash
Speaker 1: about those little league players where they're like, my favorite
Speaker 1: rapper is M F. Doom And he'd be like, no,
Speaker 1: an older kid told you to say yes and like
Speaker 1: doing commentary that Look I get it, but look you
Speaker 1: gotta have a respect for history. Obviously I won't. I
Speaker 1: want you know, I'm not going to knock you for that.
Speaker 1: The Lakers are not doing anything, okay, and then moving on.
Speaker 4: No, let's talk about them last, because the probably the
Speaker 4: most to be most to be upset about the Clippers
Speaker 4: though they lost PG for nothing, because again, this this
Speaker 4: is all because of the second Aprien.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of teams are having to
Speaker 1: do this thing where they're.
Speaker 4: Like, is this worth it or do we just completely
Speaker 4: dismantle what we've here? They they re upped with James Harden. Uh,
Speaker 4: Derek Jones Junior went that way, Kevin Porter Junior.
Speaker 1: I would just say what, uh yeah.
Speaker 3: The I love how everyone was like the people who
Speaker 3: the journalists were like qualifying him being back in the NBA.
Speaker 3: They're like, and he went off and it's six months
Speaker 3: overseas in a vacation resort playing back, and now he
Speaker 3: is making his return. It's like, no, stop signing him.
Speaker 1: Right yeah? Uh? And then you have Batom Chris Dunne.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, probably got some stuff here storage unit.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, pat that he had one game last in
Speaker 2: this recent season where I was like, okay, okay, but
Speaker 2: you still got.
Speaker 1: It right right, but still feels a little flimsy. Feels
Speaker 1: a little flimsy, you know, counting on Kawhi and James Harden.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying this to cope with my own situation.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be completely honest. Most of the things I've
Speaker 1: been saying since the finals ended have just been me
Speaker 1: coping on Mike this whole time because it is difficult.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie. I thank you everybody who
Speaker 1: sent me well wishes, and even though haters that sent
Speaker 1: me memes, I appreciated the Nuggets too. Okay, we gotta
Speaker 1: talk about the Nuggets. Last KCP considering Russell Westbrook, Reggie
Speaker 1: and traded Reggie Jackson. I am curious where this is
Speaker 1: headed because again we're talking about the second aprin the
Speaker 1: new CBA and how that is just creating a lot
Speaker 1: of movement, a lot of motion. And I get it,
Speaker 1: it's to create.
Speaker 4: More parody and equity in the league and things like that,
Speaker 4: but it is wild to just sort of see these
Speaker 4: like these like squads that were working immediately just kind
Speaker 4: of be like, yeah, we're gonna have to just kind
Speaker 4: of completely break this thing up. First of all, with
Speaker 4: west Brook, I've read I was reading like that was
Speaker 4: is that a Jokic desire?
Speaker 2: That's what the word was was that he was absolutely
Speaker 2: in favor of it, which you know, I I won't
Speaker 2: even clown. What I will say is, if you're a
Speaker 2: player out there and you see, you know, like the
Speaker 2: way that Westbrook approaches the game, you know, outside of
Speaker 2: the like the antis when he gets in you know,
Speaker 2: you know, gets worked up, whatever, I could see why
Speaker 2: you'd be like, hey, look there's productivity there. I can
Speaker 2: totally see it. So, like I I like, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: even though we clowned you know, you know, a couple
Speaker 2: of years back, we clown Lebron and Ad for wanting that,
Speaker 2: I actually deep down understood it. Uh. And you know what,
Speaker 2: if you're Denver, you may be looking at a situation where,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken Jamal Murray, he's due for you,
Speaker 2: you know, to re up next summer, and you may
Speaker 2: have to make some tough choices. So having a guy
Speaker 2: like Westbrook that gets still productive and can kind of play,
Speaker 2: you know, multiple positions, I can. I'm I'm trying to
Speaker 2: convince myself, but I can.
Speaker 1: See right the logic.
Speaker 3: I just feel like, yeah, they've they've very much figured
Speaker 3: out system, and Westbrook isn't the guy to fill that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like you need a guy who can hit threes
Speaker 3: and we all my fingers are still sore from crossing
Speaker 3: my fingers that those shots would.
Speaker 1: Go in when you play for the Lakers.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's it's worse. And I think if anything,
Speaker 3: that's that we might be finding. Jokic's weakness is that
Speaker 3: he's not much of a GM or doesn't have the
Speaker 3: confidence of some of these player gms. We've seen in
Speaker 3: on some of these other teams of knowing who to demand,
Speaker 3: and you know they they've lost out on Bruce Brown,
Speaker 3: Jeff Green, and there was no one saying anything right
Speaker 3: and now they lost ksep Uh.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I mean I think I guess it's Christian Brown's time
Speaker 3: and maybe Peyton Watson and some of these other guys.
Speaker 5: But it really hasn't been seen yet.
Speaker 2: As someone that watched them chip away actually just completely
Speaker 2: destroy that championship roster in twenty twenty. Yes, I'm bringing
Speaker 2: it to the Lakers, I know, but it looks like
Speaker 2: when you start to kind of chip away at that.
Speaker 1: Championship thinking you can get away with it, thinking.
Speaker 2: You can get away with it.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: But hey, I mean Jokic works with like thoroughbreds and stuff.
Speaker 4: Maybe he can rehabilitate this one and Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 1: You know, I believe that. And for some weird reason,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yo, Kis knows what he's doing, Like
Speaker 1: even though it could go any number of ways, as
Speaker 1: men leus have witnessed, But for some reason, I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: he's too cold and calculating to make any kind of mistake.
Speaker 1: For some reason he may figure it out, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that doesn't look great. And uh, CJ.
Speaker 4: You mentioned the Bucks, you know, like, and everybody in
Speaker 4: the East is getting stronger.
Speaker 1: Celtics just got their eighteenth three sixers, and Knicks are
Speaker 1: also augmenting their roster. But you know, we got an
Speaker 1: older dame and another thing that made us feel this
Speaker 1: is Giannis's twelfth season. Oh man, man, really no, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: What years? That makes sense?
Speaker 3: So yeah, I remember being in an empty apartment I
Speaker 3: had just moved back here and just being like, oh
Speaker 3: this the honest guy is huge and skinny.
Speaker 5: Are tall and skinny? And then yeah, man, twelve years.
Speaker 4: Dang, yeah, look at them now and they still have
Speaker 4: Doc Rivers as head coach.
Speaker 3: So well, but then Doc got some help. He got
Speaker 3: our boy darting hand and Torrian Prince.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jabari, what's your feeling on the Bucks here? You? Uh,
Speaker 4: I know, I think leaning if it's a binary between
Speaker 4: winter and loser, it feels more loser than winter.
Speaker 2: Loser to me, specifically, because I remember, look, the Lakers
Speaker 2: made the Western Conference finals, you know, last season, and
Speaker 2: then everyone else got better around him and they just
Speaker 2: decided like, oh no, we'll just kind.
Speaker 1: Of yeah, we'll see how you just do that again.
Speaker 2: It'll work. We had a Bucks team they were decimated
Speaker 2: by injuries. Obviously they didn't get you know, I think
Speaker 2: what they're out in the first round. You know this year,
Speaker 2: you already mentioned it. Dame's gonna be thirty four down
Speaker 2: stretch of this season. You know, Giannis is no, you know,
Speaker 2: no spring chicken himself. I feel like they have to
Speaker 2: swing for the fences once again and point in order
Speaker 2: in order to you know, kind of you know, re
Speaker 2: solidify themselves. Not saying that they're going to be weak.
Speaker 2: I just I'm just not a believer that you can
Speaker 2: just oh, okay, we'll just figure it out in year two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 4: The idea that it's like, well, if so and so
Speaker 4: and so and so step up, then we'll be okay.
Speaker 4: And it's like, you don't know what what timeline people
Speaker 4: are on, and I get the idea of that being
Speaker 4: able to happen or what you see may seem promising,
Speaker 4: but it's not a promised thing by any means.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: The Warriors, again, we touched on Clay and obviously Chris Paul.
Speaker 1: They added Kyle Anderson, Buddy healed I.
Speaker 3: WoT it take anybuddy, buddy heal now you know we
Speaker 3: joked about it for a year.
Speaker 1: He was there, he was there for weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well someone Myles Turner.
Speaker 1: He's still available, right man, I know that's oh god.
Speaker 2: No disrespect, Megan, no Diffe.
Speaker 1: Yeah I remember.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were coveting our neighbor's roster against the whatever
Speaker 4: commandment and yeah them all. Yeah, and so what if
Speaker 4: they man, if they are, if they're able to school
Speaker 4: Lowry Laurie.
Speaker 1: Uh what yeah, they might they might be doing Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean it feels like right now they're losers simply
Speaker 2: because you know, like I look, no disrespect to any
Speaker 2: of these guys, like we just say, the Lakers would
Speaker 2: have taken quite frankly all of them.
Speaker 1: H yeah, but we were taking up anyone including I'll
Speaker 1: take us C J.
Speaker 4: Miles and.
Speaker 1: Just I need to see some movement.
Speaker 2: But if you're the Warriors, like say, they don't make this,
Speaker 2: you know, they don't you know, pull this deal off
Speaker 2: from market in the and they kind of go in
Speaker 2: as currently constituted. They're going to be competitive, but they're
Speaker 2: not going anywhere, right. And if you're Steph no, I'm
Speaker 2: not you know, starting your rumors. But if you're Steph,
Speaker 2: how long do you say do you say, like, okay, yes,
Speaker 2: I want to continue to you know, push them, push
Speaker 2: the stone up the mountain.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 2: References are ya?
Speaker 4: Just so you know, this is a very high minded podcast.
Speaker 4: You know, y'all not messing with sisyphus find your own podcast.
Speaker 3: I love you said that, because is it me who
Speaker 3: is reading so into all these pictures and photos of
Speaker 3: Team USA right now and the bonding that Lebron, Steph
Speaker 3: and a d you know, just these like them pushing
Speaker 3: mics O away.
Speaker 1: I like to dream a little bit, you know. Oh
Speaker 1: we're Lakers fans. We only live in a dream world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Golden State, you can have it all.
Speaker 1: Let's go, Yeah, what do you want to bring Steph home?
Speaker 1: Every big swad never thought be saying it, but bring
Speaker 1: Steph home.
Speaker 2: Lez.
Speaker 4: We'll definitely get the Team USA in a second, but
Speaker 4: let's take a quick break. We'll come back to talk
Speaker 4: about Orlando, touch back again on the MAVs and the Lakers,
Speaker 4: and then you know, check a few other things around
Speaker 4: the league before talking about TMS.
Speaker 1: It will be right back and We're back. Where were we? Orlando?
Speaker 4: They resigned most of their core dudes, you know, except
Speaker 4: for not for Kel Markel. We'll see where you go.
Speaker 1: We'll see where you go. We don't know what happened
Speaker 1: to They signed Contavious called Little Pope KCPS that way,
Speaker 1: and you know they they it seems like they're addressing
Speaker 1: their weaknesses. Yeah, I really don't. I don't have anything
Speaker 1: this Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2: Feel like because I mean, like we all we went
Speaker 2: into the postseason saying like, are they going to have
Speaker 2: enough scoring? Are they gonna have enough shooting? I Like,
Speaker 2: I love KCP. I I definitely wanted him to return,
Speaker 2: but I still feel like they still need additional shooting
Speaker 2: my alone in.
Speaker 4: That or No, I know, I think that's that's spot
Speaker 4: on him because like the thing, they don't have to
Speaker 4: worry about his defense, So all the pieces you can
Speaker 4: add to create more firepower, I think are absolutely essentially
Speaker 4: give them like what we saw in the plust season
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: And Paul Paulo is flourishing, like like he is becoming
Speaker 3: a superstar in front of our eyes. So and they
Speaker 3: and they also just don't have that pressure, you know,
Speaker 3: so like, yeah, if they if they get slowly better
Speaker 3: over the next three years, everyone's just gonna always be like,
Speaker 3: you know, good for the magic and then snap like
Speaker 3: the East O KC thunder, you know, like and so yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll see. I mean, it was interesting to hear them
Speaker 3: be mentioned in some of these free agency rumors for
Speaker 3: like some.
Speaker 1: Of these big guys.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that that's like a first sign
Speaker 3: of like this is a real team.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, and they're taking seriously, they got
Speaker 1: they have goals they're trying to achieve. I wonder does like,
Speaker 1: if you have a family, does moving to Orlando feel
Speaker 1: like yo, you know, and like my kids might not
Speaker 1: like I might not, you know, they don't want to
Speaker 1: be uprooted. But we'll live at Disney World. Is that okay?
Speaker 1: Taxes and yeah, I think it's real. A bunch of
Speaker 1: guys still have house, is there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, if you like being in a bubble, just
Speaker 2: not in the bubble, you know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: The good time remember those and like we said, Mavericks,
Speaker 1: they traded for Clay and Quinton Grimes, they signed signed
Speaker 1: Naji Marshall. It's you know, we'll see what goes on there.
Speaker 4: I've I'm curious to see how what the maps actually
Speaker 4: ended up looking like once the season starts, because if
Speaker 4: they were running on straight fumes at the end of
Speaker 4: that and a lot of the deficiencies became very clear,
Speaker 4: very quickly, and then the Lakers did nothing, so then
Speaker 4: we can just move on.
Speaker 1: So then like Els in the league, Tatum and re upped. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the Lakers. Yeah, what is happening right now? I
Speaker 1: have no idea. Is Rob Palinka some kind of confidence man?
Speaker 1: To use the formal terms, what do you mean? What
Speaker 1: do you like? I'm just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what I don't know. I just don't
Speaker 4: know what he's thinking. I don't know what his area
Speaker 4: of expertise is.
Speaker 1: Like. Sometimes you're like, okay, okay, Rob, we see you.
Speaker 1: And other times I'm like, that's the wrong decision, completely done.
Speaker 1: Don't listen to them. And sometimes I feel like we're
Speaker 1: becoming like the Raiders of the NBA. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: Genie got that bowl cut? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like Mark Davis. Yeah, man, it's it's baffling. That's the
Speaker 1: word I'm gonna use.
Speaker 3: Because we had some major, major problems that we've been
Speaker 3: talking about for the whole second half of the season,
Speaker 3: and we have not made a single attempt to fix
Speaker 3: any of it, you know, And I hope JJ is good.
Speaker 3: But like I think the play that we all wanted
Speaker 3: to do was it was sort of just get a
Speaker 3: coach in there that had a resume who could be
Speaker 3: a little bit better on play call.
Speaker 5: JJ is just way, big, way, much more of a gamble.
Speaker 1: And a guest there.
Speaker 3: So like a little uneasy about that, but I'll be
Speaker 3: patient there. And it's a it's a it's a change
Speaker 3: up at the very least from Darvin.
Speaker 5: We need a center. We need a center. We need
Speaker 5: to go back to ad playing the four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And just like I've seen so many centers just
Speaker 3: get signed and go by, like I would have taken
Speaker 3: Mason Plumbley, Like I don't. I don't think what Jackson
Speaker 3: Hayes showed last year is like the answer to I.
Speaker 3: I just don't think given him more minutes is like,
Speaker 3: you know, getting me to sleep more hours in the night.
Speaker 1: So no, not at all.
Speaker 2: I love I love Jackson's energy, I love what he
Speaker 2: brings a third big man, but he's too light, he's
Speaker 2: too light and to behind if I'm not mistaken. He's
Speaker 2: like forty pounds lighter than a d an ad liked
Speaker 2: for the position, right right, Yeah, like nothing at all
Speaker 2: wrong with happen him on your roster. In fact, like
Speaker 2: I said, as a third big guy. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: would have taken Valentunis like he he ended up. You know,
Speaker 2: that was go to Washington.
Speaker 1: That was yeah, that was like what's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, are we cursed?
Speaker 2: Like like maybe it's me? Maybe maybe it is us.
Speaker 1: I've never even said that out loud. I think it
Speaker 1: was the first time I said is it us?
Speaker 4: And I don't that's growing. I don't like that thought. No,
Speaker 4: I need to go back to my cognitive distance and
Speaker 4: be like we're it's fine. When we signed Steph, it'll
Speaker 4: be all right. You don't have to worry about anything.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it really was hard to hear about, like
Speaker 4: going into free agency're like, okay, there's some potential people
Speaker 4: who're looking at and then they're all just going somewhere else.
Speaker 1: And like then hearing like we didn't even approach Derosen
Speaker 1: at all, like outside of just kind of saying like yeah,
Speaker 1: we're interested, but we're.
Speaker 2: They gonna make a move. Never got him on the phone.
Speaker 1: Wild That is absolute wild stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, call me crazy. Going back to the Stunner talk,
Speaker 3: there's part of me that we could even explore Tristan Thompson,
Speaker 3: you know of like there was that small glimpse remember
Speaker 3: that small Western Conference finals? Was there Kristin Thomson, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe even coming as a veteran, as a veteran leader
Speaker 3: even but none of that we go mour guard I know.
Speaker 1: I uh yeah, we're screaming out for it.
Speaker 4: I don't I honestly, I'm like, who is out there
Speaker 4: even now that we could even get excited about? That
Speaker 4: feels like we're addressing the actual problems because if there
Speaker 4: isn't and we end up doing some really terrible business
Speaker 4: just trying to shoehorn someone in because there's like a deal,
Speaker 4: and we end up giving up pieces we really shouldn't be.
Speaker 4: I'm starting to really think about, like what's even realistic
Speaker 4: and what should our options be here?
Speaker 2: I don't know, CJ feels I would still be happy
Speaker 2: with Cam Johnson. Somebody you know, like a s very
Speaker 2: effective long you know, can obviously shoe you know, like
Speaker 2: you know, you know, take some of the pressure off
Speaker 2: of the main guys. And that's not even to say
Speaker 2: that he wouldn't be a make you know, take some
Speaker 2: pressure off of Lebron and a d you know, obviously
Speaker 2: we talked about Laurie earlier. That might be a pipe
Speaker 2: dream because I don't necessarily know that they have the
Speaker 2: draft capital to get that done with age, but.
Speaker 1: Has been quoting around again.
Speaker 2: Ye yeah, and if you need a five, there you go,
Speaker 2: a young five that had you know, last year was
Speaker 2: a down year, but that's you know, that rookie year.
Speaker 2: He looks solid, you know, solid. So there's there are
Speaker 2: rooms out there. It's just a matter of are you know,
Speaker 2: are we gonna get in? Are we going to get
Speaker 2: in the pool?
Speaker 4: And that Yeah, I just oh man, now, I'm like
Speaker 4: maybe you know, it's all about Dalton connect you know,
Speaker 4: kin a gang kin a gang being being.
Speaker 2: Bang, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm please something.
Speaker 4: I'm just so yeah, I'm getting a little black pilled
Speaker 4: here and I do not like it.
Speaker 1: And I mean, Jabari, you said you were going to
Speaker 1: say this on the show, but are you gonna say it?
Speaker 2: I'll say it. I'll say it. With the financial situation,
Speaker 2: this would be the and they're like, may be clear,
Speaker 2: they're not going to do this every day. This is
Speaker 2: going to say, you're an idiot, and this is logical.
Speaker 2: What you're about to say, I'll be there now would
Speaker 2: actually be the time to press reset? Now would actually
Speaker 2: be that time, and and and and just and if
Speaker 2: you're rob you haven't been able to, you know, do
Speaker 2: it these last four years with those main guys. You know,
Speaker 2: with those two guys. I'm not saying you get rid
Speaker 2: of both of them. I'm just saying I would at
Speaker 2: least explore the conversation. If you don't think that you're
Speaker 2: going to be able to get anything, don't or if
Speaker 2: in fact you're not going to be able to get
Speaker 2: anything done. But I don't know, honestly don't. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he has that heart well.
Speaker 4: But it's also such cruel timing, right, It's like we
Speaker 4: can't afford to not get the most out of Lebron
Speaker 4: or a D this next year, Like we just can't.
Speaker 1: Like that's just not a luxury we have. So we've
Speaker 1: done it.
Speaker 3: We we did it the last three years where we
Speaker 3: messed up a D seventy six games this pastime. So
Speaker 3: that is that is all that is great evidence as
Speaker 3: to why why not reset now when you know when
Speaker 3: you have ad ati value. I mean, but we we
Speaker 3: know that the ship isn't necessarily being steered just by
Speaker 3: Lincoln and and yes, and Lebron is one of the
Speaker 3: greatest players of all time. So like we've seen what
Speaker 3: what else that means to you know, the front office
Speaker 3: into you know, just the power of of everything. So
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not like we got to do it now.
Speaker 3: I understand why we're not. But it is going to
Speaker 3: be like brownhog Day again. If we have to have
Speaker 3: that dash, you know, second half of the season to
Speaker 3: make the play in to they get a seed in
Speaker 3: the playoffs.
Speaker 2: We keep stepping in that damn puddle. We can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, hey, you know the most important team America.
Speaker 4: That's right, That's what I like to talk about all day,
Speaker 4: Stars and stripes forever, So team USA.
Speaker 1: And see and this is why CJ. You're not just
Speaker 1: a brilliant guest, but a brilliant post.
Speaker 4: You know, you kept me from spinning spiraling and put
Speaker 4: me onto a something brighter. Because did y'all watch the
Speaker 4: scrimmage the scrimmages, the wow first of all, just seeing
Speaker 4: this team together is kind.
Speaker 1: Of mind blowing. Yeah, It's been a while since I've
Speaker 1: looked at a team USA and was like, yo, like
Speaker 1: this is something.
Speaker 2: Can I just tell you? Yes, s primmage is why.
Speaker 2: I's part of why I say, hey, it might be
Speaker 2: time to press reset shag for Flag, but please continue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Cooper, flag looks like Yeah, I just said
Speaker 1: in my own made up language, which is supposed to
Speaker 1: be legitimate. There's that one sequence when he like he
Speaker 1: had the ball of the top of the key. I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, Drew Holliday is about to rip you, bro,
Speaker 1: even I don't know what you're thinking.
Speaker 4: And he, you know, dude, skate boom ad switch to
Speaker 4: him and he said, watch this bo net music string music,
Speaker 4: call me Mozart. Then the following possession just finishing at
Speaker 4: the rim, I was like, this.
Speaker 1: Kid, yeah, is spooky. Uh, he is gonna be so good.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited, slash like upset because I know he's
Speaker 1: not gonna I don't I don't know where he's gonna
Speaker 1: end up, but it won't be the Lakers, and then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to end up being like man, you
Speaker 1: know he was all right, bro, you know.
Speaker 2: You know that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I saw someone you put this in the dock.
Speaker 4: I saw this tweet too, where people were like, who's
Speaker 4: winning this Battle Team USA twenty twenty four or two
Speaker 4: thousand and eight and just looking at them, like I
Speaker 4: look at two thousand and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that was a great team too, But I
Speaker 1: don't know, there's something about looking at this twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four team and I'm like, this is spooky and nasty
Speaker 1: in every right way.
Speaker 2: I'll let CJ go first because I've got a controversial take.
Speaker 3: Okay, who would win it between two thousand and twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four.
Speaker 1: Eight? Who's on two thousand and eight Redeem Team?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was the Redeem tam yet that was okay
Speaker 2: Prime Cob. Yeah you had Prime Lebron, Prime uh CP three,
Speaker 2: Prime Mellow uh you know, uh, Prime Dwight White, Chris
Speaker 2: Bosh uh no disrespect Prime Chris bos. Everybody was pretty
Speaker 2: much in their prime except kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, I might go with two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: It's tough, you know why.
Speaker 3: I just feel like, well, it's Kobe, It's I mean,
Speaker 3: we had I watched the doc Kobe was out of
Speaker 3: his mind running through his own teammates. But you know what,
Speaker 3: I just like this, We're you have the the superstars,
Speaker 3: the legends on our current team right now are not
Speaker 3: in their prime. You know, they're still playing excessionally well,
Speaker 3: but like there's such a between, Like you got Lebron,
Speaker 3: then you have and Edwards and Tyres Haliburton on this team.
Speaker 3: Like that is such a gap in between. I feel
Speaker 3: like you have all the.
Speaker 5: Guys in their prime on two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dwight's on there, like Dwight is still the White
Speaker 3: is nasty and oh yeah yeah, all right, I think
Speaker 3: eight beats all of them.
Speaker 2: I think all of No, Wow, dust Yay, Look you
Speaker 2: I recognized Jordan. Look they had they had They had
Speaker 2: Jordan at it at his peak. They had and I'm
Speaker 2: not taking anything away from that. They had Pippin, they
Speaker 2: had they you know, Robinson, they had other guys that
Speaker 2: were still in their relative primes. But Magic and Bird
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man, Like y'all know, Magic is my favorite
Speaker 2: player of all time. Like I am biased beyond belief
Speaker 2: when it comes to Magic, but that's that wouldn't magic,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying that that was post career magic.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was like a swan song for people.
Speaker 2: People will throw twenty sixteen up there, people will throw
Speaker 2: twenty twenty out there, and I do get it those
Speaker 2: two like in particular, but I honestly believe, even with
Speaker 2: a smaller front court, two thousand and eight is the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could be. I could be sold on that
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean you sold me on it right there.
Speaker 3: Looking at that picture, I was like I kind of
Speaker 3: want oh oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah Olympic mellowly oh yes, Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like memory holding that whole thing. When that was
Speaker 1: like one of the most like to your point about
Speaker 1: the doc, I was like, that is yeah, wild, wild wild,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean tim Sa looked pretty good.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, Ant continues to be like the master of
Speaker 1: just fantastic answers. When I's a serious question, Who's who's
Speaker 1: Ant off the court? You know, that's that's the person
Speaker 1: we want to know?
Speaker 4: Marlow Marlow's Yeah, but yeah, I'm I'm is anyone.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not who we who should we be
Speaker 1: looking at in Paris to be like, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to get through them because I'm I'm my American
Speaker 1: arrogance is coming out again.
Speaker 3: Like, but this team, yeah, I feel like the I mean,
Speaker 3: the international talent is big, but like it's a little
Speaker 3: bit scattered.
Speaker 2: Canada is gonna be Canada'll be good.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Canada is a major threat.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, well we will see.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really excited just for everything happening in the Olympics.
Speaker 2: Just generally, you get the silver, last last round, last Olympics.
Speaker 2: I feel like Slovenia was in there, could it?
Speaker 1: Did they qualify it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about last Olympics.
Speaker 1: Last Olympics.
Speaker 4: Toyo, Japan got sober Oh no, no, that's women that
Speaker 4: was in the women was us. France got the silver,
Speaker 4: France okay. And then Australia. Australia I got your bed place,
Speaker 4: get the bronze. Middle Uh it's pretty good performs from them.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, so we've been there. Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And then just like a couple other things obviously, like
Speaker 1: you know, Obie Topping re signing with the Pacers. Good
Speaker 1: to see Obi kind of find himself. Yeah. Absolutely. We
Speaker 1: talked about Valentiunis going to the Wizards. Maxie. We love
Speaker 1: Maxi here, don't we love Tyreese MAXI five year, two
Speaker 1: hundred four million dollar deal. What was that clip?
Speaker 4: I saw a clip going around where he was like
Speaker 4: like giving and beat his flowers and saying like, you know,
Speaker 4: you were the first.
Speaker 1: Guy to to believe in me, and I really appreciate that,
Speaker 1: and he got all teared up. It was a very like,
Speaker 1: very wonderful moment.
Speaker 4: But it helps, like you understand because everyone's like Ti
Speaker 4: Maxy is like one of the sweetest guys, Like he
Speaker 4: is one of the best people.
Speaker 1: To be around in the league. And I just remember
Speaker 1: seeing that clip and being like he he seems like
Speaker 1: such a sincere Yeah, any team is lucky to have him,
Speaker 1: and that I just.
Speaker 3: Was watching before this, was watching Jared McCain, like a
Speaker 3: log that Jared McCain put out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is gonna be the nicest back court
Speaker 1: and I know he's so nice. This is such such
Speaker 1: a sweetye back court.
Speaker 2: Just just just guy, just good guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was also a big lego fan, right, wasn't didn't
Speaker 1: I see? Was he stunting with his legos to Jared
Speaker 1: or or Tyrese. There's a few guys, no Jared. I
Speaker 1: know who else was that on? There's Miles, There's there's
Speaker 1: the Lopez by they are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's it seems like maybe he is a
Speaker 1: Lego guy. Anyway, shout out to all the Lego heads
Speaker 1: out there, one of one of the most underrated toys
Speaker 1: to this day. Ye feelings thoughts on Team USA before
Speaker 1: we keep this show moving. I do hope most competitive?
Speaker 1: I do hope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because you already we already have
Speaker 3: to stuffer through a summer of no basketball usually, but like,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if you guys are heading down
Speaker 3: a summer league, but it's gonna be thick. Like we
Speaker 3: got Summer League and TMOSA all in Vegas right now.
Speaker 5: Like it feels like it really hasn't stopped.
Speaker 3: It went from finals free agency, Team USA Summer League,
Speaker 3: you know, and then hopefully we close our eyes and
Speaker 3: we're back in the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah truly, and hopefully close my eyes and open them
Speaker 1: and then we've signed someone to Yeah, that would be
Speaker 1: that would be. That would be great too.
Speaker 2: Now to your points, DJ, Yeah, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: Like after the Olympics, you've got like three weeks and
Speaker 2: then camps love it people are like media days like okay,
Speaker 2: love it are first.
Speaker 1: I think TSA's first game is against South Sudan, so
Speaker 1: I don't kind of see who is in that group,
Speaker 1: but it will be interesting. All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back to put in
Speaker 1: the Hottest seat. Oh boy, Sports Podcasts the hot seat rights,
Speaker 1: and we're back. CJ toldone h you're such a nice guy.
Speaker 1: You're the time Axi of podcasting. Everyone says you're one
Speaker 1: of the sweetest guys around and I hate doing this
Speaker 1: to you, but to get grilled order, it's time for
Speaker 1: the rapid fire rounded question, the fastest question and answer
Speaker 1: segment in all sports podcasting history. Get in the hot
Speaker 1: seat right now, hit on with the spotlight because we're
Speaker 1: going in. Are we ready? Yes? You know how this goes.
Speaker 5: I always do it wrong. I always do it wrong.
Speaker 4: True, And we can't get mad at you again. We
Speaker 4: can't get mad because your energy is so pure. You're
Speaker 4: so pure of heart.
Speaker 1: And even I'm even prevented from being my normal rude self.
Speaker 1: Listeners of the show are no I'm famous for But
Speaker 1: shall we do this? Jabari? Are you ready?
Speaker 2: I am ready listen to you ready.
Speaker 1: C J, are you ready? That's the American Gladiators, all right,
Speaker 1: Bryan Hawk hit me all right, yeah, exactly. I wanted
Speaker 1: to play that.
Speaker 2: Oh it's so bad favorite lace.
Speaker 1: And you get that little Kazooka arrow thing that you
Speaker 1: have a little target turbo. Yeah. Man, I haven't forgot
Speaker 1: where I was, and I forgot this is an NBA podcast,
Speaker 1: not a retro Gladiators dreamer show. Uh, Jabari please go first,
Speaker 1: all right, c J.
Speaker 2: One question for you? Who is the face or will
Speaker 2: be the faces of the league for the next five years?
Speaker 1: Andthy wards?
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, Joe l Embiida.
Speaker 2: I was wondering what I'm like, sorry, entirely too far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Luca there's a there's a few.
Speaker 3: There's a few, I mean, but then you're forgetting s
Speaker 3: g A, you know, but he's even like kind of.
Speaker 1: Older compared to that group. Who else is out there?
Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Brunson, Tyrese Halliburton, Uh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the list goes on, list goes on.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the apolog about to come out and get you.
Speaker 1: I was just also curious, who's this wembing y'ama y'all
Speaker 1: keep talking about he's an alien. It's not even a
Speaker 1: guy on the Spurs. The alien guy. Yeah, I call
Speaker 1: him guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, CJ.
Speaker 4: Next question, you can retroactively space jam yourself. Got a
Speaker 4: space jam is a documentary hoodie, so this is an
Speaker 4: appropriate question. Space jam yourself into having Robert Rory's career
Speaker 4: or Charles Barkley's career.
Speaker 2: Friend of the show Robert Ory, we should mention man.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, And I love Robert Orian and through iHeart,
Speaker 3: I've gotten to interview him and it was a very
Speaker 3: It was a pleasure because he was talking about how
Speaker 3: when he played for the Lakers, Salma Hyak was like
Speaker 3: inviting him to dinner and stuff, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's one it's one thing to be playing basketball for
Speaker 3: a living as a dream, but then it opens up
Speaker 3: doors to be going to dinner with Salma Hya.
Speaker 1: You know that's like he went to dinner with Salma Hyatt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 3: And he was like whispering it while because his wife
Speaker 3: was like right, I was like why did you get quiet?
Speaker 3: But uh man, you know, I just such respect and
Speaker 3: admiration for Charles Barkley. He you know, had he was
Speaker 3: one of the best players while playing, and then just
Speaker 3: has put together this incredible broadcast career. So like the
Speaker 3: performer and me goes, you can have it all a
Speaker 3: basketball and and you know, this broadcast career and he's
Speaker 3: going out on top troops.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going Barkley. Yeah, yeah, I'm not, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was the right answer to see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: okay for you. For me, it's it's big shot Bob.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All those rings, I mean, it's all about rings in
Speaker 1: this thing. You know right here, people know, people already
Speaker 1: know what time it is. Oh sorry, all.
Speaker 2: Right, see jar someone is coming now, and like this
Speaker 2: cannot be all right, I won't qualify in advance. Someone's
Speaker 2: coming to Southern California this summer. One restaurant they need
Speaker 2: to hit up and it can't be in and out
Speaker 2: or faberg get me something. Give the people what they
Speaker 2: want and with.
Speaker 3: Oh man, you know what, this is the chain restaurant
Speaker 3: that families go to.
Speaker 1: That is probably everywhere.
Speaker 2: I went to win in Akron, Ohio.
Speaker 3: No, it was gonna it's close. Is BJ's brew House? Hey,
Speaker 3: last week, I am a I am azuki. The pazuki
Speaker 3: is crazy.
Speaker 1: BJ's holler at us hey.
Speaker 3: BJ's is the spot and needs two. I feel like
Speaker 3: it had its heyday. There was one in Pasadena that close.
Speaker 3: I used to go and watch Laker games. I used
Speaker 3: to celebrate, you know, work things at I feel like
Speaker 3: and especially in LA, everyone's always talking about these fancy places.
Speaker 1: Him down an alley, back to basics. Yeah, we gotta
Speaker 1: go back to basic.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, those are those are the purest celebrations when
Speaker 4: you'd be like, dude, we're going to We're going to
Speaker 4: Puzukia BJS.
Speaker 1: My bro say less.
Speaker 3: I went to the Montabello Town Center BJS, and I
Speaker 3: felt at home. It was it was warm, there were
Speaker 3: families around. There were kids who just played au basketball.
Speaker 3: Then you had teens. Yeah, and you had some young families.
Speaker 3: You had people of all ages. And then you can
Speaker 3: step out and go to a Lids or a Champs.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I love eating at the mall. I
Speaker 1: gotta say. As I get older, I'm like, I'm telling
Speaker 1: my wife for like, yo, we need to go to
Speaker 1: the mall on Friday. We need to save bomb. I'm like,
Speaker 1: because that's my culture. Like growing up in LA and
Speaker 1: the nineties and stuff. You went to the mall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were at the mall. That's just what you did.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's funny how I'm just recaptured. I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna walk by foot locker, Okay, then we'll get
Speaker 1: a little boba, uh and then maybe get a little
Speaker 1: you know, like an Auntie Ans or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: And to that point, I grew up going to the
Speaker 2: BJ's in Warner Center right over across bing the mall. Yo,
Speaker 2: hit up best By. Yeah, hang them all there we were.
Speaker 1: Those are the good old days, man, We're old. I
Speaker 1: don't know how many said that, man, good old days man.
Speaker 1: I remember what Yannis is just getting in the league
Speaker 1: twelve years ago. I remember literally like it was yesterday. Yeah. Wait,
Speaker 1: oh sidebar CJ. Are you I know you're originally a
Speaker 1: Bulls fan, right oh yeah, okay, okay, okay, CJ. Next question,
Speaker 1: follow up?
Speaker 2: Where are you going with that?
Speaker 4: Yep, because you'll understand right now, okay, okay, You're on
Speaker 4: a life raft and you're in the sea, and you
Speaker 4: come upon two figures struggling in the water.
Speaker 1: One of them you recognize as BJ Armstrong. The other
Speaker 1: is none other than Tony Kuk coach. They both need
Speaker 1: help getting out of the water. But your life raft
Speaker 1: only has room for one man. Who do you say?
Speaker 3: I feel like I gotta save Tony because that's more
Speaker 3: championships than he.
Speaker 1: This is now, This is now. Oh man, I might
Speaker 1: have to be DJ Armstrong because you're like, you got
Speaker 1: them rings, Tony? Sorry you got those rings? Tony? You
Speaker 1: can float away on those.
Speaker 5: I think, oh man, Yeah, maybe bj Armstrong?
Speaker 1: You know he was he was, he's de Rosees agent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still very instrumental with a lot of the
Speaker 3: current players.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 3: He's, like you think about a good up and coming
Speaker 3: point guard.
Speaker 5: His agent is most likely bj Armstrong.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that. Wait, who else does he represent?
Speaker 1: I feel like there's I don't even know. I bet
Speaker 1: you the roster is is.
Speaker 2: Night.
Speaker 1: You think, oh yeah, that makes art Rose. Let's see
Speaker 1: also bismc Bumbo. Okay, what you jump? JaVale McGee? Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm wrong?
Speaker 2: Maybe Jackson is that Carlos Arroyo's brother ross oroo?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, well, hey, the first first one,
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 5: I think he was running like Washton ran or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up Javal McGee mb what three time NBA champions?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have taken Javi McKay this off season.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look like we say beggars can't be choosers, do not?
Speaker 2: You know? I feel like we do.
Speaker 1: Be like, Man, I'd rather go to the Wizards, And
Speaker 1: you're like, well, okay, okay, okay, Man, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Uh, Javary go ahead. Sorry, I completely I had
Speaker 4: to improvise that last question got to zero in one.
Speaker 4: That's why I asked the question because I didn't. I
Speaker 4: wanted to ask you something that was going to hit
Speaker 4: you more your childhood heart than you're fan heart.
Speaker 2: I will shamous Lee Pander. Now, we are planning the
Speaker 2: Nineties Throwback series this summer, highlight players and teams from
Speaker 2: that era. Shout off to your co host John will
Speaker 2: be awesome to have him. Well until you talk about too,
Speaker 2: but you know we'll get there. Do you mind giving
Speaker 2: us a few recommendations on of nineties guys we should
Speaker 2: highlight in nineties so far? Let me give you who
Speaker 2: we've got so far.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know a friend of the show, Vince Carter.
Speaker 2: He he recommended you know a couple of guys, but
Speaker 2: we got Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, of course, Vince Sean
Speaker 2: camp Young, Kobe, I mean, duh Ai, the Petrovitch nets,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, Derek Coleman, Action, Reggie Lewis, Glenn Robinson,
Speaker 2: and Dennis Rodman. Okay, listening from the nineties.
Speaker 1: R Vidus the Bonus, Oh thank you?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah?
Speaker 3: Who else death left Tramp? Yeah, I mean was Reggie
Speaker 3: was Reggie Miller on there?
Speaker 1: People?
Speaker 3: I know people have you know, broadcaster Reggie isn't isn't
Speaker 3: most popular, but Reggie Miller.
Speaker 1: Of course I recognize Ruined, So yeah, he's in there.
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing, you know, zing on there?
Speaker 2: Okay. Keem is the one where I'm surprised nobody had mentioned.
Speaker 1: Before, and every day I go because I just saw
Speaker 1: more footage of him. He's training somebody.
Speaker 3: But his game is like because centers have become now,
Speaker 3: they're like.
Speaker 5: Oh, they can shoot threes and stuff.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if you had, like Embiid had that
Speaker 3: same footwork that a team had. It's just like he's
Speaker 3: doing some of the moves but not as fluid.
Speaker 1: As a team was. Yeah, yeah, you know you can.
Speaker 3: It's like when an actor. You can see them reading
Speaker 3: the lines in their head. That's how the modern day
Speaker 3: center is. The team was just like you get the ball,
Speaker 3: he's in his spot and then it just flew.
Speaker 1: It just like flows through and that was so beautiful,
Speaker 1: like a team.
Speaker 3: Is definitely one of my favorite players of all time,
Speaker 3: and I always forget that. But yeah, who I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm missing some I mean, j will Jason Williams.
Speaker 2: Is on there.
Speaker 3: Uh Williams, Sorry, yeah, yeah, no, I just saw Mitchell
Speaker 3: Mitchell Ness was trying to sell some heat throwbacks of
Speaker 3: Jason went.
Speaker 1: Like he remembers that Jayson Williams.
Speaker 4: If anything, do the high school one with him and
Speaker 4: Randy Moss Yeah, Nike commercial.
Speaker 1: I was like, I remember, like they went to school together,
Speaker 1: but both of them right.
Speaker 3: Now we need a quintessential like nineties doc about pop
Speaker 3: culture and sports together.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it could be like one hundred part series.
Speaker 1: Oh easily. I mean just think of like you know, sorry,
Speaker 1: I just want like, was Widen doing all those Nike
Speaker 1: basketball I think still back then. I'm like I talk
Speaker 1: to that person, like I want to talk to person
Speaker 1: who conceived Fun Police. Yeah you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and be like thank you. I tried to buy a
Speaker 1: big yellow jacket for Halloween. I could have find Oh
Speaker 1: my god, oh we should do a joint. Let's all
Speaker 1: of us on here do a joint. Halloween cost next
Speaker 1: year will be the police police.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, final question for you, CJ. I know
Speaker 4: you're a big person on style, especially things when it
Speaker 4: comes to basketball. Name a player sneak your model that
Speaker 4: isn't of Adidas or Nike that you feel is being
Speaker 4: slept on.
Speaker 3: I mean, the team acts are incredible. Uh, Team one
Speaker 3: and two's are are legendary.
Speaker 1: Oh that that aren't Nike your.
Speaker 3: I mean I went out and got those those data
Speaker 3: Steve Webs They and one spree Wells were dope. The
Speaker 3: KG the and one just the tie cheat. You know
Speaker 3: that's what Vince Carter wore in the Dunk contest, the
Speaker 3: half white and red. Those are still legendary. There's there's
Speaker 3: got there's like another one that's not Nike your Adidas
Speaker 3: trying to think the shagnosis rebox diagnosis.
Speaker 1: Dude, the the yes those are also.
Speaker 3: I remember shout out to my co host John Wall
Speaker 3: he had some some great signature shoes.
Speaker 1: He had those the zig techs uh.
Speaker 3: And then he had another model that they did like
Speaker 3: this like DC Cherry Boston Colorway.
Speaker 1: That's that's dope.
Speaker 5: But oh yeah, I'm probably missing I mean the pumps,
Speaker 5: the d brown pumps.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Larry Johnston converses the cons well, react juice, gotta have
Speaker 1: react juice. Yes, I remember these.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I'm gonna get off his cal and go,
Speaker 3: I'm man, I'm mad. I didn't say that, but.
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean look that sends the answers question.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: There it is there.
Speaker 4: It is Yeah that I can't even ask this question
Speaker 4: anymore because that was the answer.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: CJ Toldo, thank you so much for joining us on
Speaker 4: Miles and Jabari.
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