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Speaker 1: Whoa. Well, well, look at us here talking about the NBA.

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Speaker 1: We're already into the summer action. A summer league is

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Speaker 1: kicked off. The bulk of free agency has taken place,

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Speaker 1: although some teams that I wish for a little bit

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Speaker 1: more active are not. Uh and Team USA is getting

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Speaker 1: ready for Olympic action in Paris. We're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: all of that and more with hoos and creator CJ

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Speaker 1: Toldono on today's episode. I'm Miles Gray and.

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Speaker 2: I'm producer Jabari infra Jet.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and this is my producer, Jabari got mad boosty. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we can do change it.

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Speaker 2: We can do that.

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Speaker 1: We can do that, dot Chid three, got it? W's

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Speaker 1: driving spinning knicks. Got it with five? Is gonna try

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Speaker 1: another three? Mister? Look God James, to be honest with

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Speaker 1: the tech. Look out there's a little show time, won't

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Speaker 1: you go y honest? C J Toldano, Look the man

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Speaker 1: who behind the fantastic brand following, you know, not the

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Speaker 1: movement now, it's not just it's not just a it's

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Speaker 1: a move and I see everybody rocking your follow through

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Speaker 1: here too. It's we gotta get used to them. We

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Speaker 1: gotta get both of you guys some stuff, you know

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Speaker 1: that try and get some stuff. But it works, It

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Speaker 3: And and I do like you saying that as a movement,

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Speaker 3: now people can follow through it.

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Speaker 1: You have to follow through. Yeah, what did I see?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: I saw something like recently, something big and somebody's rocking

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Speaker 4: follow through And I was like doing the Leonardo DiCaprio meme, like,

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Speaker 4: oh we got guy John Wall.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know if it was John.

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Speaker 4: I think I may have seen it like completely out

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Speaker 4: of context and maybe you didn't even look. The next

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Speaker 4: time I remember made you know how it is. That's

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Speaker 4: how you know your big you know exactly. And also,

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Speaker 4: like I said, along with John Wall, hosts of The

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Speaker 4: Point God podcast, So it is good to have you

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Speaker 4: because you know, as we are all big Laker fans,

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Speaker 4: there are many other teams making moves in free agency.

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Speaker 4: And I just I just I just need a support

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Speaker 4: group to kind of to just parse through all everything

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Speaker 4: that's happening. You know, Look, Jabari, I know all about

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Speaker 4: the second Apron, you know what I mean. So you know,

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Speaker 4: we don't have to we don't have to talk about

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Speaker 4: that because I know exactly what it means in every

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Speaker 2: At least one of us does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't need to know about.

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Speaker 5: Aprons to know that the Lakers didn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh right, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: They re signed Max Christie four years, you know, thirty

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Speaker 2: two million. That's what's up.

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Speaker 3: That was just thinking about it now. When that happened

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Speaker 1: They're all on the way.

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Speaker 5: I'm getting ready, you know, ribbing my hands together and nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I said, look, let's go through some of the winners,

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Speaker 1: let y'all know where things settle out. But you know,

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Speaker 1: let's start with Okay, no Clay I mean, well, did

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Speaker 1: either you even want Clay? I wanted it. I wanted it,

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Speaker 3: Obviously, we're all cautious after we we do those like

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Speaker 5: Much the Dallas got for him, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: I wanted them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I wasn't gonna be like, well no, but

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Speaker 4: It's like being in LA will rejuvenate you and rediscover everything. Right.

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Speaker 3: But people are throwing around that ray Allen Miami heat thing,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, I'll keep it. I'll keep it a

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Speaker 2: I'm in favor. Guys get your money, and you're like

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Speaker 2: happy when players get paid except for when it's by

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Speaker 2: you know what good for him going to Dallas. It

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Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, I wish you the best of luck. Oklahoma

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Speaker 4: City added Caruso and Harden scene. Uh to dude, this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're stacked. That addition again, gonna call that a

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Speaker 4: My goodness, that was that was just a masterful trade.

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Speaker 4: Well they got giddy out Caruso in. It's just looking

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Speaker 4: I see no weaknesses.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Jack should have had that that ticket for this

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like every move was in spite

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Speaker 3: Like that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah for sure. Oh remember him, CJ.

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Speaker 2: To your point, the next one they make when they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my goodness.

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Speaker 2: They still have they still have a treasure trove of

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Speaker 3: The East is slowly getting better, you know, for some reason,

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Speaker 1: Just like, I I just yeah, the Celtics are still

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, and and maybe and the Bucks did

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Speaker 3: don't feel right no matter. The Sixers could get ninety

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Speaker 1: To Jack here.

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Speaker 2: We have Jack here, Jack. Jack has made his appearance.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just energetically to be we could we could

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Speaker 4: But I think my close proximity to a Sixers fan

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, but you never know, man, Like it's

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Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've seen that reference on you know,

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Speaker 2: want this for Jack. Yeah, I'd be lying it. I'd

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, San Antonio Spurs, Chris Paul has entered

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Speaker 4: I'm and prior to moves of Chris Paul like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Lord, we're so I was a cool, grown adult when

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Speaker 3: CP three, you know, came in. What I just saw

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Speaker 2: eighty six Celtics, which shut the hell up. Also, we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like when we used to say, like, oh, I

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Speaker 1: You know, do you remember that like video that was

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Speaker 1: blowing up on TikTok where someone was just talking trash

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Speaker 1: want you know, I'm not going to knock you for that.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers are not doing anything, okay, and then moving on.

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Speaker 4: No, let's talk about them last, because the probably the

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Speaker 4: most to be most to be upset about the Clippers

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Speaker 4: though they lost PG for nothing, because again, this this

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Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of teams are having to

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Speaker 4: Like, is this worth it or do we just completely

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Speaker 4: dismantle what we've here? They they re upped with James Harden. Uh,

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Speaker 4: And it's like, you don't know what what timeline people

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Speaker 1: He was there, he was there for weeks.

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Speaker 1: He's still available, right man, I know that's oh god.

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Speaker 1: Just I need to see some movement.

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Speaker 2: But if you're the Warriors, like say, they don't make this,

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Speaker 2: I want to continue to you know, push them, push

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh wow.

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Speaker 2: References are ya?

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Speaker 4: Just so you know, this is a very high minded podcast.

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Speaker 4: You know, y'all not messing with sisyphus find your own podcast.

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Speaker 3: I love you said that, because is it me who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Golden State, you can have it all.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, Yeah, what do you want to bring Steph home?

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Speaker 4: We'll definitely get the Team USA in a second, but

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Speaker 4: about Orlando, touch back again on the MAVs and the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: It will be right back and We're back. Where were we? Orlando?

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Speaker 4: They resigned most of their core dudes, you know, except

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Speaker 1: We'll see where you go. We don't know what happened

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Speaker 1: guys still have house, is there?

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00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, if you like being in a bubble, just

438
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 2: not in the bubble, you know, yeah, exactly.

439
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 1: The good time remember those and like we said, Mavericks,

440
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: they traded for Clay and Quinton Grimes, they signed signed

441
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: Naji Marshall. It's you know, we'll see what goes on there.

442
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 4: I've I'm curious to see how what the maps actually

443
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 4: ended up looking like once the season starts, because if

444
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 4: they were running on straight fumes at the end of

445
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 4: that and a lot of the deficiencies became very clear,

446
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 4: very quickly, and then the Lakers did nothing, so then

447
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 4: we can just move on.

448
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: So then like Els in the league, Tatum and re upped. Okay,

449
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: so the Lakers. Yeah, what is happening right now? I

450
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: have no idea. Is Rob Palinka some kind of confidence man?

451
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: To use the formal terms, what do you mean? What

452
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: do you like? I'm just I don't know.

453
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 4: I don't know what I don't know. I just don't

454
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 4: know what he's thinking. I don't know what his area

455
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 4: of expertise is.

456
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: Like. Sometimes you're like, okay, okay, Rob, we see you.

457
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: And other times I'm like, that's the wrong decision, completely done.

458
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: Don't listen to them. And sometimes I feel like we're

459
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: becoming like the Raiders of the NBA. Yeah, you know,

460
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: Genie got that bowl cut? You know what I mean?

461
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: Like Mark Davis. Yeah, man, it's it's baffling. That's the

462
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: word I'm gonna use.

463
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: Because we had some major, major problems that we've been

464
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: talking about for the whole second half of the season,

465
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 3: and we have not made a single attempt to fix

466
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: any of it, you know, And I hope JJ is good.

467
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 3: But like I think the play that we all wanted

468
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 3: to do was it was sort of just get a

469
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: coach in there that had a resume who could be

470
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,120
Speaker 3: a little bit better on play call.

471
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 5: JJ is just way, big, way, much more of a gamble.

472
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: And a guest there.

473
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: So like a little uneasy about that, but I'll be

474
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: patient there. And it's a it's a it's a change

475
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 3: up at the very least from Darvin.

476
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 5: We need a center. We need a center. We need

477
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 5: to go back to ad playing the four.

478
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And just like I've seen so many centers just

479
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: get signed and go by, like I would have taken

480
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: Mason Plumbley, Like I don't. I don't think what Jackson

481
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: Hayes showed last year is like the answer to I.

482
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 3: I just don't think given him more minutes is like,

483
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: you know, getting me to sleep more hours in the night.

484
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: So no, not at all.

485
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: I love I love Jackson's energy, I love what he

486
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: brings a third big man, but he's too light, he's

487
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: too light and to behind if I'm not mistaken. He's

488
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: like forty pounds lighter than a d an ad liked

489
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: for the position, right right, Yeah, like nothing at all

490
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: wrong with happen him on your roster. In fact, like

491
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: I said, as a third big guy. But yeah, I

492
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: would have taken Valentunis like he he ended up. You know,

493
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: that was go to Washington.

494
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: That was yeah, that was like what's going on? Yeah?

495
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 3: Is it?

496
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, are we cursed?

497
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: Like like maybe it's me? Maybe maybe it is us.

498
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: I've never even said that out loud. I think it

499
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: was the first time I said is it us?

500
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 4: And I don't that's growing. I don't like that thought. No,

501
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 4: I need to go back to my cognitive distance and

502
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 4: be like we're it's fine. When we signed Steph, it'll

503
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 4: be all right. You don't have to worry about anything.

504
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, it really was hard to hear about, like

505
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: going into free agency're like, okay, there's some potential people

506
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: who're looking at and then they're all just going somewhere else.

507
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: And like then hearing like we didn't even approach Derosen

508
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: at all, like outside of just kind of saying like yeah,

509
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: we're interested, but we're.

510
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: They gonna make a move. Never got him on the phone.

511
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: Wild That is absolute wild stuff.

512
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: You know, call me crazy. Going back to the Stunner talk,

513
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: there's part of me that we could even explore Tristan Thompson,

514
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: you know of like there was that small glimpse remember

515
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 3: that small Western Conference finals? Was there Kristin Thomson, you know,

516
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 3: maybe even coming as a veteran, as a veteran leader

517
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 3: even but none of that we go mour guard I know.

518
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: I uh yeah, we're screaming out for it.

519
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: I don't I honestly, I'm like, who is out there

520
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 4: even now that we could even get excited about? That

521
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 4: feels like we're addressing the actual problems because if there

522
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: isn't and we end up doing some really terrible business

523
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: just trying to shoehorn someone in because there's like a deal,

524
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: and we end up giving up pieces we really shouldn't be.

525
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 4: I'm starting to really think about, like what's even realistic

526
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 4: and what should our options be here?

527
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, CJ feels I would still be happy

528
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: with Cam Johnson. Somebody you know, like a s very

529
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: effective long you know, can obviously shoe you know, like

530
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: you know, you know, take some of the pressure off

531
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 2: of the main guys. And that's not even to say

532
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: that he wouldn't be a make you know, take some

533
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: pressure off of Lebron and a d you know, obviously

534
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: we talked about Laurie earlier. That might be a pipe

535
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: dream because I don't necessarily know that they have the

536
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: draft capital to get that done with age, but.

537
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: Has been quoting around again.

538
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 2: Ye yeah, and if you need a five, there you go,

539
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: a young five that had you know, last year was

540
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: a down year, but that's you know, that rookie year.

541
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: He looks solid, you know, solid. So there's there are

542
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: rooms out there. It's just a matter of are you know,

543
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: are we gonna get in? Are we going to get

544
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: in the pool?

545
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 4: And that Yeah, I just oh man, now, I'm like

546
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: maybe you know, it's all about Dalton connect you know,

547
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: kin a gang kin a gang being being.

548
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: Bang, you know what I mean.

549
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm please something.

550
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: I'm just so yeah, I'm getting a little black pilled

551
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 4: here and I do not like it.

552
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: And I mean, Jabari, you said you were going to

553
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: say this on the show, but are you gonna say it?

554
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: I'll say it. I'll say it. With the financial situation,

555
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: this would be the and they're like, may be clear,

556
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: they're not going to do this every day. This is

557
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: going to say, you're an idiot, and this is logical.

558
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: What you're about to say, I'll be there now would

559
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: actually be the time to press reset? Now would actually

560
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: be that time, and and and and just and if

561
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: you're rob you haven't been able to, you know, do

562
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 2: it these last four years with those main guys. You know,

563
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: with those two guys. I'm not saying you get rid

564
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: of both of them. I'm just saying I would at

565
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: least explore the conversation. If you don't think that you're

566
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: going to be able to get anything, don't or if

567
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: in fact you're not going to be able to get

568
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: anything done. But I don't know, honestly don't. I don't

569
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: know if he has that heart well.

570
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: But it's also such cruel timing, right, It's like we

571
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 4: can't afford to not get the most out of Lebron

572
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 4: or a D this next year, Like we just can't.

573
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Like that's just not a luxury we have. So we've

574
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: done it.

575
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: We we did it the last three years where we

576
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: messed up a D seventy six games this pastime. So

577
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: that is that is all that is great evidence as

578
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: to why why not reset now when you know when

579
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: you have ad ati value. I mean, but we we

580
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: know that the ship isn't necessarily being steered just by

581
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 3: Lincoln and and yes, and Lebron is one of the

582
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: greatest players of all time. So like we've seen what

583
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: what else that means to you know, the front office

584
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: into you know, just the power of of everything. So

585
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not like we got to do it now.

586
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: I understand why we're not. But it is going to

587
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: be like brownhog Day again. If we have to have

588
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: that dash, you know, second half of the season to

589
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: make the play in to they get a seed in

590
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

591
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: We keep stepping in that damn puddle. We can't.

592
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, hey, you know the most important team America.

593
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: That's right, That's what I like to talk about all day,

594
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: Stars and stripes forever, So team USA.

595
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: And see and this is why CJ. You're not just

596
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: a brilliant guest, but a brilliant post.

597
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: You know, you kept me from spinning spiraling and put

598
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 4: me onto a something brighter. Because did y'all watch the

599
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: scrimmage the scrimmages, the wow first of all, just seeing

600
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: this team together is kind.

601
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Of mind blowing. Yeah, It's been a while since I've

602
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: looked at a team USA and was like, yo, like

603
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: this is something.

604
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: Can I just tell you? Yes, s primmage is why.

605
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: I's part of why I say, hey, it might be

606
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: time to press reset shag for Flag, but please continue.

607
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Cooper, flag looks like Yeah, I just said

608
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: in my own made up language, which is supposed to

609
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: be legitimate. There's that one sequence when he like he

610
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: had the ball of the top of the key. I

611
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, Drew Holliday is about to rip you, bro,

612
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: even I don't know what you're thinking.

613
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: And he, you know, dude, skate boom ad switch to

614
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 4: him and he said, watch this bo net music string music,

615
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: call me Mozart. Then the following possession just finishing at

616
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: the rim, I was like, this.

617
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: Kid, yeah, is spooky. Uh, he is gonna be so good.

618
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited, slash like upset because I know he's

619
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: not gonna I don't I don't know where he's gonna

620
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: end up, but it won't be the Lakers, and then

621
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to end up being like man, you

622
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: know he was all right, bro, you know.

623
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: You know that?

624
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you're right, You're right.

625
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, I saw someone you put this in the dock.

626
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 4: I saw this tweet too, where people were like, who's

627
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: winning this Battle Team USA twenty twenty four or two

628
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: thousand and eight and just looking at them, like I

629
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 4: look at two thousand and I'm.

630
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that was a great team too, But I

631
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: don't know, there's something about looking at this twenty twenty

632
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: four team and I'm like, this is spooky and nasty

633
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: in every right way.

634
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: I'll let CJ go first because I've got a controversial take.

635
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: Okay, who would win it between two thousand and twenty

636
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: twenty four.

637
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: Eight? Who's on two thousand and eight Redeem Team?

638
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was the Redeem tam yet that was okay

639
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: Prime Cob. Yeah you had Prime Lebron, Prime uh CP three,

640
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: Prime Mellow uh you know, uh, Prime Dwight White, Chris

641
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: Bosh uh no disrespect Prime Chris bos. Everybody was pretty

642
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: much in their prime except kid.

643
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, I might go with two thousand and eight.

644
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: It's tough, you know why.

645
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: I just feel like, well, it's Kobe, It's I mean,

646
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: we had I watched the doc Kobe was out of

647
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: his mind running through his own teammates. But you know what,

648
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: I just like this, We're you have the the superstars,

649
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: the legends on our current team right now are not

650
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: in their prime. You know, they're still playing excessionally well,

651
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: but like there's such a between, Like you got Lebron,

652
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: then you have and Edwards and Tyres Haliburton on this team.

653
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: Like that is such a gap in between. I feel

654
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Speaker 3: like you have all the.

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Speaker 5: Guys in their prime on two thousand and eight.

656
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dwight's on there, like Dwight is still the White

657
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Speaker 3: is nasty and oh yeah yeah, all right, I think

658
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Speaker 3: eight beats all of them.

659
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Speaker 2: I think all of No, Wow, dust Yay, Look you

660
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Speaker 2: I recognized Jordan. Look they had they had They had

661
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Speaker 2: Jordan at it at his peak. They had and I'm

662
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Speaker 2: not taking anything away from that. They had Pippin, they

663
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Speaker 2: had they you know, Robinson, they had other guys that

664
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Speaker 2: were still in their relative primes. But Magic and Bird

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man, Like y'all know, Magic is my favorite

666
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Speaker 2: player of all time. Like I am biased beyond belief

667
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: when it comes to Magic, but that's that wouldn't magic,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying that that was post career magic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was like a swan song for people.

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Speaker 2: People will throw twenty sixteen up there, people will throw

671
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty out there, and I do get it those

672
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Speaker 2: two like in particular, but I honestly believe, even with

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Speaker 2: a smaller front court, two thousand and eight is the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could be. I could be sold on that

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Speaker 1: for sure. I mean you sold me on it right there.

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Speaker 3: Looking at that picture, I was like I kind of

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Speaker 3: want oh oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah Olympic mellowly oh yes, Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like memory holding that whole thing. When that was

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Speaker 1: like one of the most like to your point about

681
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Speaker 1: the doc, I was like, that is yeah, wild, wild wild,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean tim Sa looked pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ant continues to be like the master of

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Speaker 1: just fantastic answers. When I's a serious question, Who's who's

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Speaker 1: Ant off the court? You know, that's that's the person

687
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Speaker 1: we want to know?

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Speaker 4: Marlow Marlow's Yeah, but yeah, I'm I'm is anyone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not who we who should we be

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Speaker 1: looking at in Paris to be like, Okay, we're gonna

691
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Speaker 1: have to get through them because I'm I'm my American

692
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: arrogance is coming out again.

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Speaker 3: Like, but this team, yeah, I feel like the I mean,

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Speaker 3: the international talent is big, but like it's a little

695
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Speaker 3: bit scattered.

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Speaker 2: Canada is gonna be Canada'll be good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Canada is a major threat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, well we will see.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm really excited just for everything happening in the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Just generally, you get the silver, last last round, last Olympics.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Slovenia was in there, could it?

702
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Speaker 1: Did they qualify it?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about last Olympics.

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Speaker 1: Last Olympics.

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Speaker 4: Toyo, Japan got sober Oh no, no, that's women that

707
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Speaker 4: was in the women was us. France got the silver,

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Speaker 4: France okay. And then Australia. Australia I got your bed place,

709
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Speaker 4: get the bronze. Middle Uh it's pretty good performs from them.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, so we've been there. Yeah yeah yeah.

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00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: And then just like a couple other things obviously, like

712
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, Obie Topping re signing with the Pacers. Good

713
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: to see Obi kind of find himself. Yeah. Absolutely. We

714
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: talked about Valentiunis going to the Wizards. Maxie. We love

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Speaker 1: Maxi here, don't we love Tyreese MAXI five year, two

716
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Speaker 1: hundred four million dollar deal. What was that clip?

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Speaker 4: I saw a clip going around where he was like

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Speaker 4: like giving and beat his flowers and saying like, you know,

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Speaker 4: you were the first.

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Speaker 1: Guy to to believe in me, and I really appreciate that,

721
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Speaker 1: and he got all teared up. It was a very like,

722
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: very wonderful moment.

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Speaker 4: But it helps, like you understand because everyone's like Ti

724
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Speaker 4: Maxy is like one of the sweetest guys, Like he

725
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 4: is one of the best people.

726
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Speaker 1: To be around in the league. And I just remember

727
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: seeing that clip and being like he he seems like

728
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: such a sincere Yeah, any team is lucky to have him,

729
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: and that I just.

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Speaker 3: Was watching before this, was watching Jared McCain, like a

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Speaker 3: log that Jared McCain put out.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that is gonna be the nicest back court

733
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Speaker 1: and I know he's so nice. This is such such

734
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Speaker 1: a sweetye back court.

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Speaker 2: Just just just guy, just good guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He was also a big lego fan, right, wasn't didn't

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Speaker 1: I see? Was he stunting with his legos to Jared

738
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Speaker 1: or or Tyrese. There's a few guys, no Jared. I

739
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: know who else was that on? There's Miles, There's there's

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Speaker 1: the Lopez by they are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

741
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Speaker 1: you know he's it seems like maybe he is a

742
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Speaker 1: Lego guy. Anyway, shout out to all the Lego heads

743
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: out there, one of one of the most underrated toys

744
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: to this day. Ye feelings thoughts on Team USA before

745
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: we keep this show moving. I do hope most competitive?

746
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: I do hope.

747
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because you already we already have

748
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: to stuffer through a summer of no basketball usually, but like,

749
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: and I don't know if you guys are heading down

750
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: a summer league, but it's gonna be thick. Like we

751
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 3: got Summer League and TMOSA all in Vegas right now.

752
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 5: Like it feels like it really hasn't stopped.

753
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: It went from finals free agency, Team USA Summer League,

754
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: you know, and then hopefully we close our eyes and

755
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: we're back in the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah truly, and hopefully close my eyes and open them

757
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: and then we've signed someone to Yeah, that would be

758
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: that would be. That would be great too.

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00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: Now to your points, DJ, Yeah, if I'm not mistaken,

760
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: Like after the Olympics, you've got like three weeks and

761
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: then camps love it people are like media days like okay,

762
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 2: love it are first.

763
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Speaker 1: I think TSA's first game is against South Sudan, so

764
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Speaker 1: I don't kind of see who is in that group,

765
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: but it will be interesting. All right, let's take a

766
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back to put in

767
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: the Hottest seat. Oh boy, Sports Podcasts the hot seat rights,

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00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: and we're back. CJ toldone h you're such a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: You're the time Axi of podcasting. Everyone says you're one

770
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: of the sweetest guys around and I hate doing this

771
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Speaker 1: to you, but to get grilled order, it's time for

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00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: the rapid fire rounded question, the fastest question and answer

773
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: segment in all sports podcasting history. Get in the hot

774
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Speaker 1: seat right now, hit on with the spotlight because we're

775
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: going in. Are we ready? Yes? You know how this goes.

776
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 5: I always do it wrong. I always do it wrong.

777
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: True, And we can't get mad at you again. We

778
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: can't get mad because your energy is so pure. You're

779
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: so pure of heart.

780
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: And even I'm even prevented from being my normal rude self.

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00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: Listeners of the show are no I'm famous for But

782
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: shall we do this? Jabari? Are you ready?

783
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: I am ready listen to you ready.

784
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Speaker 1: C J, are you ready? That's the American Gladiators, all right,

785
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: Bryan Hawk hit me all right, yeah, exactly. I wanted

786
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: to play that.

787
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Speaker 2: Oh it's so bad favorite lace.

788
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Speaker 1: And you get that little Kazooka arrow thing that you

789
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: have a little target turbo. Yeah. Man, I haven't forgot

790
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: where I was, and I forgot this is an NBA podcast,

791
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: not a retro Gladiators dreamer show. Uh, Jabari please go first,

792
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: all right, c J.

793
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: One question for you? Who is the face or will

794
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: be the faces of the league for the next five years?

795
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: Andthy wards?

796
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, Joe l Embiida.

797
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: I was wondering what I'm like, sorry, entirely too far.

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00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Luca there's a there's a few.

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Speaker 3: There's a few, I mean, but then you're forgetting s

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Speaker 3: g A, you know, but he's even like kind of.

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00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: Older compared to that group. Who else is out there?

802
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Brunson, Tyrese Halliburton, Uh.

803
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, the list goes on, list goes on.

804
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the apolog about to come out and get you.

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00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: I was just also curious, who's this wembing y'ama y'all

806
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: keep talking about he's an alien. It's not even a

807
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: guy on the Spurs. The alien guy. Yeah, I call

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Speaker 1: him guy.

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00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, CJ.

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Speaker 4: Next question, you can retroactively space jam yourself. Got a

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Speaker 4: space jam is a documentary hoodie, so this is an

812
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: appropriate question. Space jam yourself into having Robert Rory's career

813
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: or Charles Barkley's career.

814
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Speaker 2: Friend of the show Robert Ory, we should mention man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, And I love Robert Orian and through iHeart,

816
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: I've gotten to interview him and it was a very

817
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 3: It was a pleasure because he was talking about how

818
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: when he played for the Lakers, Salma Hyak was like

819
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: inviting him to dinner and stuff, and it's like, you know,

820
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: it's one it's one thing to be playing basketball for

821
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: a living as a dream, but then it opens up

822
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Speaker 3: doors to be going to dinner with Salma Hya.

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Speaker 1: You know that's like he went to dinner with Salma Hyatt. Yeah,

824
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Speaker 1: I think so.

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00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: And he was like whispering it while because his wife

826
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 3: was like right, I was like why did you get quiet?

827
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: But uh man, you know, I just such respect and

828
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: admiration for Charles Barkley. He you know, had he was

829
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: one of the best players while playing, and then just

830
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: has put together this incredible broadcast career. So like the

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Speaker 3: performer and me goes, you can have it all a

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00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: basketball and and you know, this broadcast career and he's

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Speaker 3: going out on top troops.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going Barkley. Yeah, yeah, I'm not, man, Yeah,

835
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Speaker 1: that was that was the right answer to see. Yeah,

836
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Speaker 1: okay for you. For me, it's it's big shot Bob.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: All those rings, I mean, it's all about rings in

839
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Speaker 1: this thing. You know right here, people know, people already

840
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 1: know what time it is. Oh sorry, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, see jar someone is coming now, and like this

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Speaker 2: cannot be all right, I won't qualify in advance. Someone's

843
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: coming to Southern California this summer. One restaurant they need

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Speaker 2: to hit up and it can't be in and out

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Speaker 2: or faberg get me something. Give the people what they

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Speaker 2: want and with.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, you know what, this is the chain restaurant

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Speaker 3: that families go to.

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Speaker 1: That is probably everywhere.

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Speaker 2: I went to win in Akron, Ohio.

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Speaker 3: No, it was gonna it's close. Is BJ's brew House? Hey,

852
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: last week, I am a I am azuki. The pazuki

853
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: is crazy.

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Speaker 1: BJ's holler at us hey.

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Speaker 3: BJ's is the spot and needs two. I feel like

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00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 3: it had its heyday. There was one in Pasadena that close.

857
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: I used to go and watch Laker games. I used

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00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: to celebrate, you know, work things at I feel like

859
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: and especially in LA, everyone's always talking about these fancy places.

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00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: Him down an alley, back to basics. Yeah, we gotta

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00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: go back to basic.

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00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, those are those are the purest celebrations when

863
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: you'd be like, dude, we're going to We're going to

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Speaker 4: Puzukia BJS.

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Speaker 1: My bro say less.

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Speaker 3: I went to the Montabello Town Center BJS, and I

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Speaker 3: felt at home. It was it was warm, there were

868
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Speaker 3: families around. There were kids who just played au basketball.

869
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: Then you had teens. Yeah, and you had some young families.

870
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: You had people of all ages. And then you can

871
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: step out and go to a Lids or a Champs.

872
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I love eating at the mall. I

873
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: gotta say. As I get older, I'm like, I'm telling

874
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: my wife for like, yo, we need to go to

875
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: the mall on Friday. We need to save bomb. I'm like,

876
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: because that's my culture. Like growing up in LA and

877
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: the nineties and stuff. You went to the mall. Yeah,

878
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: you were at the mall. That's just what you did.

879
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's funny how I'm just recaptured. I'm like,

880
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna walk by foot locker, Okay, then we'll get

881
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: a little boba, uh and then maybe get a little

882
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, like an Auntie Ans or something like that.

883
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about.

884
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: And to that point, I grew up going to the

885
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: BJ's in Warner Center right over across bing the mall. Yo,

886
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: hit up best By. Yeah, hang them all there we were.

887
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: Those are the good old days, man, We're old. I

888
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: don't know how many said that, man, good old days man.

889
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: I remember what Yannis is just getting in the league

890
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: twelve years ago. I remember literally like it was yesterday. Yeah. Wait,

891
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: oh sidebar CJ. Are you I know you're originally a

892
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: Bulls fan, right oh yeah, okay, okay, okay, CJ. Next question,

893
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: follow up?

894
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: Where are you going with that?

895
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: Yep, because you'll understand right now, okay, okay, You're on

896
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: a life raft and you're in the sea, and you

897
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: come upon two figures struggling in the water.

898
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: One of them you recognize as BJ Armstrong. The other

899
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: is none other than Tony Kuk coach. They both need

900
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: help getting out of the water. But your life raft

901
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: only has room for one man. Who do you say?

902
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: I feel like I gotta save Tony because that's more

903
00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: championships than he.

904
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Speaker 1: This is now, This is now. Oh man, I might

905
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: have to be DJ Armstrong because you're like, you got

906
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: them rings, Tony? Sorry you got those rings? Tony? You

907
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: can float away on those.

908
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 5: I think, oh man, Yeah, maybe bj Armstrong?

909
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: You know he was he was, he's de Rosees agent.

910
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still very instrumental with a lot of the

911
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: current players.

912
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: Right now.

913
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 3: He's, like you think about a good up and coming

914
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: point guard.

915
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 5: His agent is most likely bj Armstrong.

916
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that. Wait, who else does he represent?

917
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: I feel like there's I don't even know. I bet

918
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: you the roster is is.

919
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: Night.

920
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: You think, oh yeah, that makes art Rose. Let's see

921
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:51,479
Speaker 1: also bismc Bumbo. Okay, what you jump? JaVale McGee? Maybe

922
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: I'm wrong?

923
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: Maybe Jackson is that Carlos Arroyo's brother ross oroo?

924
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, well, hey, the first first one,

925
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: I like.

926
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Speaker 5: I think he was running like Washton ran or whatever.

927
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, yeah, exactly.

928
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up Javal McGee mb what three time NBA champions?

929
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have taken Javi McKay this off season.

930
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look like we say beggars can't be choosers, do not?

931
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: You know? I feel like we do.

932
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: Be like, Man, I'd rather go to the Wizards, And

933
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: you're like, well, okay, okay, okay, Man, all.

934
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Speaker 4: Right, Uh, Javary go ahead. Sorry, I completely I had

935
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 4: to improvise that last question got to zero in one.

936
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Speaker 4: That's why I asked the question because I didn't. I

937
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: wanted to ask you something that was going to hit

938
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Speaker 4: you more your childhood heart than you're fan heart.

939
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: I will shamous Lee Pander. Now, we are planning the

940
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: Nineties Throwback series this summer, highlight players and teams from

941
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: that era. Shout off to your co host John will

942
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: be awesome to have him. Well until you talk about too,

943
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: but you know we'll get there. Do you mind giving

944
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 2: us a few recommendations on of nineties guys we should

945
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: highlight in nineties so far? Let me give you who

946
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: we've got so far.

947
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: Okay.

948
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: Uh, you know a friend of the show, Vince Carter.

949
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: He he recommended you know a couple of guys, but

950
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: we got Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, of course, Vince Sean

951
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: camp Young, Kobe, I mean, duh Ai, the Petrovitch nets,

952
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, you know, Derek Coleman, Action, Reggie Lewis, Glenn Robinson,

953
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: and Dennis Rodman. Okay, listening from the nineties.

954
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: R Vidus the Bonus, Oh thank you?

955
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 5: Okay?

956
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah?

957
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: Who else death left Tramp? Yeah, I mean was Reggie

958
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: was Reggie Miller on there?

959
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: People?

960
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: I know people have you know, broadcaster Reggie isn't isn't

961
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: most popular, but Reggie Miller.

962
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: Of course I recognize Ruined, So yeah, he's in there.

963
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing, you know, zing on there?

964
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: Okay. Keem is the one where I'm surprised nobody had mentioned.

965
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: Before, and every day I go because I just saw

966
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: more footage of him. He's training somebody.

967
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: But his game is like because centers have become now,

968
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: they're like.

969
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 5: Oh, they can shoot threes and stuff.

970
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if you had, like Embiid had that

971
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: same footwork that a team had. It's just like he's

972
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: doing some of the moves but not as fluid.

973
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: As a team was. Yeah, yeah, you know you can.

974
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: It's like when an actor. You can see them reading

975
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 3: the lines in their head. That's how the modern day

976
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 3: center is. The team was just like you get the ball,

977
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: he's in his spot and then it just flew.

978
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: It just like flows through and that was so beautiful,

979
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: like a team.

980
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 3: Is definitely one of my favorite players of all time,

981
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 3: and I always forget that. But yeah, who I feel

982
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: like I'm missing some I mean, j will Jason Williams.

983
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: Is on there.

984
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 3: Uh Williams, Sorry, yeah, yeah, no, I just saw Mitchell

985
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: Mitchell Ness was trying to sell some heat throwbacks of

986
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: Jason went.

987
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: Like he remembers that Jayson Williams.

988
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: If anything, do the high school one with him and

989
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 4: Randy Moss Yeah, Nike commercial.

990
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I remember, like they went to school together,

991
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: but both of them right.

992
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 3: Now we need a quintessential like nineties doc about pop

993
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: culture and sports together.

994
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it could be like one hundred part series.

995
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh easily. I mean just think of like you know, sorry,

996
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: I just want like, was Widen doing all those Nike

997
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: basketball I think still back then. I'm like I talk

998
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: to that person, like I want to talk to person

999
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: who conceived Fun Police. Yeah you know what I mean,

1000
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: and be like thank you. I tried to buy a

1001
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: big yellow jacket for Halloween. I could have find Oh

1002
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: my god, oh we should do a joint. Let's all

1003
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: of us on here do a joint. Halloween cost next

1004
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: year will be the police police.

1005
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, final question for you, CJ. I know

1006
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: you're a big person on style, especially things when it

1007
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 4: comes to basketball. Name a player sneak your model that

1008
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: isn't of Adidas or Nike that you feel is being

1009
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: slept on.

1010
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean, the team acts are incredible. Uh, Team one

1011
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: and two's are are legendary.

1012
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: Oh that that aren't Nike your.

1013
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: I mean I went out and got those those data

1014
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: Steve Webs They and one spree Wells were dope. The

1015
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: KG the and one just the tie cheat. You know

1016
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 3: that's what Vince Carter wore in the Dunk contest, the

1017
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 3: half white and red. Those are still legendary. There's there's

1018
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: got there's like another one that's not Nike your Adidas

1019
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 3: trying to think the shagnosis rebox diagnosis.

1020
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: Dude, the the yes those are also.

1021
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 3: I remember shout out to my co host John Wall

1022
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 3: he had some some great signature shoes.

1023
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: He had those the zig techs uh.

1024
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: And then he had another model that they did like

1025
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 3: this like DC Cherry Boston Colorway.

1026
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: That's that's dope.

1027
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 5: But oh yeah, I'm probably missing I mean the pumps,

1028
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: the d brown pumps.

1029
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1030
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: Larry Johnston converses the cons well, react juice, gotta have

1031
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: react juice. Yes, I remember these.

1032
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I'm gonna get off his cal and go,

1033
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: I'm man, I'm mad. I didn't say that, but.

1034
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean look that sends the answers question.

1035
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: That's yeah, yeah, yeah.

1036
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: There it is there.

1037
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 4: It is Yeah that I can't even ask this question

1038
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: anymore because that was the answer.

1039
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1040
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: CJ Toldo, thank you so much for joining us on

1041
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 4: Miles and Jabari.

1042
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: I got mad at boost these. Uh where do the

1043
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow your support you listen to engage

1044
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,720
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1045
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: CJ Toldono and then check out Point Game Pod John

1046
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: Waller go through the whole first season. Hopefully we will

1047
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 3: back to the first season two. I'm going to the

1048
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: Stummer League this weekend and do some video. Check that

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00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,959
Speaker 3: stuff out all on the follow your channel, Dope Dope, Dope,

1050
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: Dope Dope.

1051
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: Well you can follow us on the hashtag mad boost

1052
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,680
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1053
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1054
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1055
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1056
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

1057
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: You can make sure to follow us on Twitter. You

1058
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: can find me at Miles of Gray.

1059
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: Can find me at Jori A. Davis. And make sure

1060
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Speaker 2: you follow Jack at Jack Underscore. O'Brien, Hey, you know

1061
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm here.

1062
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: Let's let's let it breathe, babe. You know what I mean.

1063
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: You're out here.

1064
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You'll be back. You'll be back.

1065
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Jack will be back next week. Uh,

1066
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: and we will see you next week for sure, as

1067
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Speaker 1: we continue to monitor the fourishing off season of the

1068
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: NBA and beyond. All Right, y'all take care, We see

1069
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: bye bye

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Speaker 3: M