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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace in the last days. A

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Speaker 1: with a huge social media following. Don't ask me why

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Speaker 1: detained in Romania and handed a UK arrest warrant. Looks

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Speaker 1: I mean, s he Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank

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Speaker 1: on serious XM one eleven. That's right. The online influencer

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Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, with literally millions of followers Go figure, was

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Speaker 1: Tate thirty seven and creepy brother Tristan Tate detained. They

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Speaker 1: were detained on claims of sex aggression. That's what they

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Speaker 1: call it in the UK, in a case dating all

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Speaker 1: the way back to two thousand and fifteen. Now a

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Speaker 1: Romanian court where the two were hiding out has to

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Speaker 1: make a quote pivotal decision whether they're going to execute

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Speaker 1: the warrants issued by the UK Westminster Magistrates Court. They

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Speaker 1: darn well better if they want to keep relations up

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Speaker 1: with the UK. Four women reported Tate. Four women, not one,

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Speaker 1: for sex violence and physical abuse. For some reason, the

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Speaker 1: crown decided not to prosecute him. These victims had to

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Speaker 1: turned to crowd funding to cover their legal costs. The

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Speaker 1: four female victims handed over their evidence about the horrific

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Speaker 1: a separate case with rape, human trafficking and forming a

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Speaker 1: have millions of men followers?

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Speaker 2: Freaks?

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Speaker 1: How did the whole thing begin? Possibly the most misogynistic

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Speaker 1: person I have ever encountered discussing tactics on how to

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Speaker 1: lure sex trafficking victims. These texts, message and more have

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Speaker 1: built by Andrew Tate, a sex trafficker according to Elie

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Speaker 1: Law Enforcement. First of all, take a listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Most people know Andrew Tate for his online content which

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Speaker 2: has been called misogynistic. But what most people don't know

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Speaker 2: is that he also runs this secret of all male society,

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Speaker 2: the warrem which he says is a kind of self

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Speaker 2: help society that helps you become better man. It costs

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Speaker 2: is that actually within the Warreum, they're actually teaching men

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Speaker 2: methods for grooming women into online sex work. And we've

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Speaker 3: Breaking news, disgraced influencer Andrew Tate has been indicted and

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Speaker 3: will face charges of rape, human trafficking, and forming a

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Speaker 3: A spokesperson for the Tate brothers confirm their indictment to

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Speaker 3: NBC News. Both brothers deny all allegations. The two were

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Speaker 1: I can't stop someone from being misogynistic, that's within them.

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Speaker 1: But I tell you this much, we can stop sex trafficking.

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Speaker 1: And what's so amazing is he's not trafficking women in secret.

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Speaker 1: They're not in the back of massage parlors and nail

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Speaker 1: This is not some thirteen or fourteen year old girl

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Speaker 1: This is happening right online. I really don't even know

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Speaker 1: where to start. Take a list our friends at BBC.

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Speaker 4: Prosecutors have filed formal charges against the controversial influencer Andrew Tate,

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Speaker 4: his brother Tristan, and two associates. The charges include rape,

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Speaker 1: Love and marriage, my rear end, that is not what

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Speaker 1: hear our cut fifteen from The Dangerous Rise of Andrew

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Speaker 6: In the leaked messages that we got access to, were

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Speaker 1: That's not all. I'll take a listen our cut tin,

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Speaker 5: The prosecution also says that women were forced by the

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Speaker 5: As spokeswoman for the Take Brothers said that they vehemently

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Speaker 1: Joining me an allstar panel to make sense of what

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Speaker 1: we know right now. Straight out to senior investigative reporter

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Speaker 1: for the Dailymail dot Com, Caitlin Becker. Caitlyn, thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us. Forty five known alleged victims. There

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Speaker 1: are actually victims in multiple countries. That's not unusual. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember the initial search for Natalie Holloway. We were

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Speaker 1: island for sex trafficking. That is a part of sex trafficking.

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Speaker 1: You remove the victim from their home, from their money,

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Speaker 1: they're being beaten and drugged and they're taken away from

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Speaker 1: their home. The fact that this conspiracy to sex traffic

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Speaker 1: is in many countries. It's hard for some people to believe,

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Speaker 7: It's the way sex trafficking work. But it's also the

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Speaker 7: way the Internet works. And Andrew Tate's claim to fame

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Speaker 7: involved subjugating and harassing women. He had very popular online courses.

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Speaker 7: essentially allegedly grooming and he garnered thousands and thousands and

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Speaker 7: conspiracy goes far and wide. You not only have Andrew

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Speaker 7: You can imagine how far this can go. I mean,

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Speaker 7: forty five others from these leaked telegram messages that the

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Speaker 1: For time stories with Nancy Grace. Believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: this perv Andrew Tate has nearly nine million followers on

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Speaker 1: repeatedly claims prosecutors have no evidence against him and that

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Speaker 1: there is a conspiracy to quote silence him. Okay, when

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Speaker 1: you start talking about conspiracies, you'll lose me. Remember everybody

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Speaker 1: said the LAPD had a conspiracy against Oj simptom to

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Speaker 1: frame him for double murder. Bs Like you think one

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Speaker 1: too difficult for people to keep the pyhole shut in

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Speaker 1: a conspiracy. Even social media is shunning him. He's been

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Speaker 1: banned from multiple social media platforms for misogynistic woman hating

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Speaker 1: Andrew Tate and his freaky brother I know this. They're

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Speaker 1: rolling in money. Remainian authorities sees fifteen luxury cars, fourteen

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Speaker 1: around four million dollars. These two women haters and allege

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Speaker 1: being raped, being beaten. In his chats screenshots purported messages

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Speaker 1: In one message, this woman hater describes how he isolated

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Speaker 1: from his screenshots. He appears to seek help from his

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Speaker 1: I sound almost evil, Guys, this is such a huge operation.

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Speaker 1: Think about it. How many times have I told a

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Speaker 1: jury don't turn away. Think about what's happening around you.

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Speaker 1: Think about these facts, young women being forced into sex

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Speaker 1: rate Think about it. Do you have a daughter, a mother,

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, Thank you, thank you. I also call myself

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Speaker 8: when we go out and teach and train around human trafficking.

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Speaker 8: So when I hear the word grooming a lot, what

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Speaker 8: The fraud is this promise of love that never turns

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Speaker 1: Guys, I'm looking online at Andrew Tate's leaked text. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, this is about maximum difficulty you experience in

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Speaker 5: Prosecutors outlined the testimony and the evidence against Andrew Taate.

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Speaker 5: It includes transcriptions of text and audio messages which appear

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Speaker 1: Slaving wheremen from ten to twelve hours a day. Okay

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Speaker 1: to doctor Joni Johnston, forensic psychologist and private investigator, author

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Speaker 1: of Serial Killers. One hundred and one question true crime

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Speaker 1: fans ask doctor Johnny, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Explain what's happening here?

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Speaker 10: Alison Mack is doing court facing sex trafficking charges after

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Speaker 1: Case Research Institute. You can find for at coldcasecrimes dot org. Cheryl,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Nexium is a US

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Speaker 11: I think some terminal here is going to be important.

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Speaker 11: Because they need to understand who he is. They keep

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Speaker 11: The robo pimp may tell her, hey, you're my wife,

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Speaker 7: Well, first and foremost, Nancy, just to sort of put

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Speaker 1: PhD pimpin' hooes degree. That's what he calls women, ladies, whoes,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Take's cult like members that he creates. Go ahead, please,

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Speaker 7: Well, on top of that, Nancy, with the money, he

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Speaker 7: sort of pyramid scheme on one side that I think

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Speaker 1: greg Algrin and Lee Reber, incredible forensic detective. Cheryl, I'm

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Speaker 1: not making it clear. I don't think I need you

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Speaker 11: a place where they can maybe even go back to school,

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Speaker 11: it's almost impossible.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Cheryl hold On, I want to talk about grown women. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and yes, everything you just said was right. But these women,

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Speaker 1: it's like the ladies that I work with at the

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Speaker 1: Batter Women's Center. They're so beaten and beaten down and

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Speaker 1: drugged and it's horrible. I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 11: It's not much different for us. Since she's twenty one

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Speaker 11: or thirty five, everything has been flipped for her. The

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Speaker 11: paranoia is real. The drugs they were giving them is real,

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Speaker 11: The beatings are real. So you are so afraid to

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Speaker 11: go against that person. It doesn't matter what somebody in

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Speaker 11: law enforcement says, what somebody in your family says.

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Speaker 12: You believe this person that's.

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Speaker 11: Been beaten you, there's been drugging you, that's been sexually

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Speaker 11: assaulting you, is still in control of you, even if

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Speaker 11: they've been taken to jail.

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Speaker 8: This is Don Schiller again. I don't think I am

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Speaker 8: a survivor of all all of that. That is exactly

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Speaker 8: what I went through. I went through that with John Holmes.

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Speaker 8: I went through that with almost six years of being hidden,

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Speaker 8: being beaten, being addicted to drugs, being forced into prostitution,

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Speaker 8: being forced into crime. I did all of that. I

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Speaker 8: know that trauma is a life sentence. So I feel

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Speaker 8: you and I hear you on that on a big level,

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Speaker 8: on a big level, and I do care about these women,

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Speaker 8: and I understand what they're going through. What he's doing,

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Speaker 8: I agree with you one hundred percent is absolutely egregious.

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Speaker 8: That he's just throwing it in people's faces is even

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Speaker 8: more insulting to survivors, and the victims who are still

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Speaker 8: out there are scared to death to speak up. You

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Speaker 8: don't know you're a victim when you are coming out

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Speaker 8: of that. You've been brainwashed into believe in that you

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Speaker 8: did it to yourself, if you consented to all of that.

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Speaker 8: That's part of the tactic that they use. That's part

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Speaker 8: of the way that these women are trapped.

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Speaker 1: Climb stories with Nancy Grace. Andrew Tait actually rose to

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Speaker 1: fame when he was kicked off the British version of

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Speaker 1: our TV show Big Brother back in twenty sixteen. Now,

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Speaker 1: this was after the release of a video that appeared

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Speaker 1: to show him attacking a woman. He claims it was

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Speaker 1: edited and that it's a quote lie to make me

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Speaker 1: look bad. Yeah right, I'm gonna believe you are my

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Speaker 1: lying eyes chew on that Tate. He's been banned from

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Speaker 1: other social media platforms like Insta, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube for

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Speaker 1: some reason, he's still on Twitter slash x. Now briefly,

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Speaker 1: Twitter Akax did band Tate because he wrote women should

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Speaker 1: bear quote some responsibility quote for being sex assaulted. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but then he was reinstated. Why why Musk? Why Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk was he reinstated. Tate has videos with the hashtag

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Speaker 1: Andrew Tate that have been watched literally billions, that's billion,

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Speaker 1: with b as a brother on the TikTok platform, making

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Speaker 1: him one of the most viewed figures spewing his hatred.

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Speaker 1: Greg Augrin is joining us as well as Lee Reeber. Greg,

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Speaker 1: high profile international lawyer with the us h MX Law Group.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this more of the messages and the misogynistic

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Speaker 1: hate spewed by this alleged sex trafficker. This is in

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Speaker 1: his wor room instructs members to quote punish victims that

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Speaker 1: would be women for transgressions by having her get our

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Speaker 1: name tattooed on her. One group leader called a general,

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Speaker 1: describes how he hit a woman in the head with

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Speaker 1: her own keyboard when she complained about something. The woman

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Speaker 1: who worked for him then went in the room and

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Speaker 1: worked seven hours without a break. It goes on and

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Speaker 1: on and on about how to beat and control women

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Speaker 1: to perform pornographic acts. Group sex, many online, many on screen.

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Speaker 1: Greg Algrin is joining us. Greg. A lot of what

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Speaker 1: I know from these alleged messages of Andrew Tates I

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Speaker 1: can't bring myself to repeat on the air. But let

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Speaker 1: me ask you, what can the US do about it?

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Speaker 1: Because there are so many victims here, I believe, including

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Speaker 1: one victim whose name has somehow been leaked, and all

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Speaker 1: these a holes working for Tait or working on undertake

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Speaker 1: have actually started trolling her and sending this woman death threats.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are we going to do about it?

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Speaker 1: And what can we do about it?

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Speaker 12: Sure, so the situation is just it it's so outrageous

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Speaker 12: that it cries out for legal accountability. And I think,

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Speaker 12: you know, eventually it has to catch up with all

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Speaker 12: of them in a permanent right. Because Andrew Tate is

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Speaker 12: a citizen by birth of the United States, and so

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Speaker 12: he can flee the country, but he can't. He can't

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Speaker 12: lose a citizenship. And that means the US, with his

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Speaker 12: network of mutual legal assistance treaties, is always going to

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Speaker 12: have an interest. Perhaps you know, it's a question of

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Speaker 12: sort of capturing the attention of law enforcement. But the

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Speaker 12: US has the means to catch up with it wherever

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Speaker 12: he is and ensure there's some legal accountability. So it

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Speaker 12: needs to happen a lot of times. It's very very slow,

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Speaker 12: it's bureaucratic, but it's a process that is it can

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Speaker 12: be virtually impossible to escape from once it gets started.

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Speaker 12: So hopefully we'll see sooner rather than later that legal accountability.

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Speaker 12: There's a structure for it. It just needs to be engaged.

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Speaker 1: I want you to hear this Andrew take quote told

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Speaker 1: rape victim he would get her pregnant, lock her away,

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Speaker 1: allegedly find webcam workers that started crying during sex acts

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Speaker 1: on webcam and tried to coerce him into group sex,

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Speaker 1: and then they started crying and so he punished them.

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Speaker 1: This is his business that is making five million dollars

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Speaker 1: a month. One victim claims take try to force her

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Speaker 1: to have group sex and said shut up horror when

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Speaker 1: she tried to object. There are hundreds and hundreds of

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Speaker 1: pages of reported testimony and evidence verbally physically abusing these women.

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Speaker 1: One woman tells prosecutor's tape would rape her while holding

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Speaker 1: her head so as she couldn't move, and threatened to

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Speaker 1: get her pregnant. I mean it goes on and on

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Speaker 1: and on. He would take her clothes and shoes away

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Speaker 1: from her and continue to beat her. Shut up horror.

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Speaker 1: You will do as I say. I mean, it goes

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Speaker 1: on and on and on, and I'm reading you only

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Speaker 1: portions of what I know. Many of these women, apparently Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: are promised love and marriage and then they are transported,

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Speaker 1: many of them to Romania, where they are gang rape,

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Speaker 1: sex exploited, and subjected to physical violence. There are hundreds

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Speaker 1: and hundreds and hundreds of pages of reported violence. One

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Speaker 1: victim reports a take coworker, a Henchman, threatens to quote

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Speaker 1: break her teeth that she would end up in the morgue.

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Speaker 1: The women creating porn for tates brother's webcam business alleged

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Speaker 1: their income is controlled by the Tates. They are fined

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Speaker 1: or punished if they start crying during a sex act,

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Speaker 1: if they wipe their nose, if they take too long

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Speaker 1: on a break. It just goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: Book this guy, Try him and put him under the jail.

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Speaker 1: That's just my advice. Goodbye, friend,