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Speaker 2: to say. There's all kinds of news. Let's talk about news.

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Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar joining some Leak company. Eminem Okay, Eminem and

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Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar are only two people to do this, the

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Speaker 2: only two hip hop artists to spend three hundred weeks

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Speaker 2: on Billboard charts. With Good Kid Mad City, Kendrick has

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Speaker 4: I still rock that, Oh yeah, I mean the album

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Speaker 4: is one of my favorite albums of all times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, the albums a classic. I mean, Kendrick

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Speaker 2: Kate I knew what he was doing. With that joint,

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Speaker 2: so many jams on it.

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Speaker 4: That's that's I have very very few albums that I

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Speaker 3: Play and listen all the way through, and that's one

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Speaker 4: I literally just just and I could just listen all

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Speaker 2: And to be so successful with an album that's essentially

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Speaker 2: the hood and trying to leave it. It's almost like

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Speaker 2: Boys in the Hood the audio album. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean the songs are iconic, you know, Bitch, Don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that album was one of the few albums

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Speaker 4: Where you had all types of niggas is like that's

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Speaker 4: Like that's my ship? You had to normally ask niggas.

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Speaker 4: It's like, that's my ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that ship.

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Speaker 4: To apparent sord but you had it bought a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was definitely like a classic album

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Speaker 2: for me, and like the songs will be in trailers

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Speaker 2: the Ship. Yes, like they have a trailer for a

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Speaker 2: Section eighty and the pip A Butterfly I was a

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Speaker 2: dope ass album as well, you know, another great album,

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Speaker 2: but them fucking like you would just be watching a

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Speaker 2: like the backseat freestyle and you're like, damn, this album

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Speaker 4: Yes, And it's also one of those things of how

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Speaker 4: You know, it's about to be like Denzel and Kendrick

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Speaker 4: it and it fits that. It fits that that trailer. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was just it was an amazing That's that's what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's an amazing album and

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Speaker 2: least I wouldn't be surprised, correct. I feel like this

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Speaker 2: one was almost his coming out party for the rest

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Speaker 2: of like you know, uh, especially section eighty maybe less

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Speaker 2: so it's overly dedicated. I think section eighty was really

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love section eighty, But this album right

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Speaker 4: here is and I love all his stuff, but this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so amazing, amazing album.

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Speaker 4: Album flows to like you go from one song to

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Speaker 3: I'm here for it.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's see what else we got to. This

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Where are you from? My nigga?

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Speaker 3: How can your Grandma's day? Ham my nigga?

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Speaker 2: How can you listen to that without making a face?

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Speaker 2: Bright Wells Fargo may have accidentally forecast foreclosed four hundred

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Speaker 3: And you a gonna get them homes back either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They just disclosed another round of lapses and potential scandals,

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Speaker 2: and conceding it may have unnecessarily foreclosed about four hundred homeowners.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and imagine them homeowners. What day received going but

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Speaker 3: I paid, like, why is my home foreclosed on?

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Speaker 2: It was like beaty bitch low income housing credits too.

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Speaker 2: I wonder who was effected by this come on? Government

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Speaker 2: agencies are examined and how wells far negotiate it and

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Speaker 2: purchased certain federal Low Income Housing Credit tax credits in

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Speaker 2: connection with the finance and the low income housing developments separately,

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Speaker 2: The bank said in an internal review, it found it

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Speaker 2: modifications to more mortgages even though they qualified for relief,

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Speaker 2: and that it ultimately carried out foreclosures on four hundred

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Speaker 2: The bank said it aired when calculated attorneys fees for

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Speaker 2: change between twenty ten and twenty fifteen, deeming some applicants ineligible.

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Speaker 2: It's set aside eight million dollars to make customers whole.

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Speaker 2: How do I get my money? Do I get my

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Speaker 2: house back? What it is whole? What have I been

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Speaker 2: doing for the last If it's happened to me in

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Speaker 2: twenty ten, what have I been doing for the last

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Speaker 2: eight years with no house?

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Speaker 3: Can you reach me?

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Speaker 2: What's up my credit?

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Speaker 3: One of that shit is gonna be corrected.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how, I mean eight million dollars might could fix it.

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Speaker 2: I just need to know how it's gonna work.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't.

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Speaker 2: You can't my eight years.

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Speaker 4: Back and my thing is this, I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: don't believe you accidentally forgot to do this shit. No,

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Speaker 4: you purposely just didn't do it. Somebody was like, fuck it,

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Speaker 4: we gonna see we can get away with it, and

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Speaker 4: got copped.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's what happens when you have no credibility, right,

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Speaker 2: People don't believe If it was a mistake, people not

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Speaker 2: gonna believe it. The discultures add to almost two years

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Speaker 2: of revelations about pros misconduct and other lapses that have

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Speaker 2: taken toll on the firm's reputation, business, and relations with regulators,

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Speaker 2: who in February imposed who in February imposed unprecedented cap

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Speaker 2: on the bank's growth. In some cases, the firm discovered

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Speaker 2: problems itself as part of a bride review of its

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Speaker 2: businesses and efforts to overhaul internal controls. The scanners were

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Speaker 2: interrupted in twenty sixteen when Regularly said the bank had

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Speaker 2: opened millions of accounts without customer's permission, leading to a

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Speaker 2: public outcry and spurring additional scrutiny. Incorrect fees in the

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Speaker 2: firm's wealth management unit, inconsistent pricing in the foreign exchange

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Speaker 2: business and employees, and properly altering documents in the wholesale

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Speaker 2: unit are among other government inquiries at the bank. That's

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Speaker 4: I just read through, right, And then you wonder why

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Speaker 4: niggas be like, why the fuck would I go purchase

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Speaker 4: a home? Because every time I turn around, all this

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Speaker 4: shit actually targets marginalized people. Fuck, they credit up, they

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Speaker 4: lose shit, You can't buy shit, you can't get shipped.

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people like fuck it.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather just rent than to have to deal with

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Speaker 4: the bank that I don't trust, because every year and

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Speaker 4: Wells followed.

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Speaker 3: Ain't the only one.

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Speaker 4: All these banks been smacked with this shit. Oh my bad,

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Speaker 4: we deny people loans. Oh my bad, we were purpose

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Speaker 4: we will accidentally charge people higher interest rates. And oh

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Speaker 4: my bad, Black people with college education and a good

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Speaker 4: good credit got the same rating as the white person

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Speaker 4: graduated from high school. My bad. Oh, black people with

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Speaker 4: with with higher income, we gonna give you the same

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Speaker 4: fucked up loans that we give everybody else because you're.

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Speaker 3: Black, you know.

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Speaker 4: So it's one of those things when you know, from

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Speaker 4: my perspective as somebody who's not a homeowner, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: you know, cause I kind of desire to get a home.

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, no, I'm I'm good renting.

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Speaker 4: I am good renting because guess what, at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, we can end this relationship.

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Speaker 3: I'm not in no ridiculous amount of that. You ain't

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Speaker 3: screwed me over.

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Speaker 4: I ain't got to feel no paperwork out to try

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Speaker 4: to get my motherfucking money back. I hope that I

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Speaker 4: get it back because I don't trust y'all. Y'all ain't

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Speaker 4: gonna do shit. You're gonna do this mass thing and

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Speaker 4: give me two dollars and fifty cent talking about we cool?

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Speaker 2: Mm hm. The lenders said in friday filing. Friday's filing

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Speaker 2: that reasonably it's reasonably possible legal charges could be as

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Speaker 2: highest two point two billion beyond reserves as of June thirtieth.

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Speaker 2: That's down from two point six billion in the previous quarter.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, this is this is this type of

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Speaker 4: Like we're talking about homes. If y'all fucking up home loans,

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Speaker 4: What like, what is this a specific I know it's

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Speaker 3: I know? They so theyre all not Brazilian.

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Speaker 2: Nah, it's a different different pi Okay, Kim Kardashian, it's

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Speaker 4: This, you know, Okay, because this is differ between butt

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, I don't even know if she's known for this.

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Speaker 2: She's just known for having big ofake ass. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: group of plastic searchers have issued a new one to

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Speaker 2: ew and that is greater than any other cosmetic surgery.

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Speaker 3: And you better know what you're doing because it's an operation.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why people if they sliceing you, it's

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Speaker 4: Your body has your recover. It is a process any

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Speaker 2: The new one that highlights the potential dangers of a

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Speaker 2: from twenty sixteen to twenty seventeen. Everybody won't be a nigga. No,

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Speaker 2: of Plaquie Surgeons. Well, I guess you know that's not

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Speaker 2: fair to say. I'm sure there's some black women that

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. That's wrong. That was a different

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Speaker 4: And that's one of those things where a lot of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't blame me. But even they're not even

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Speaker 2: wanting to get like bootleg operations. They're saying even just

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Speaker 2: And uh, that's the pressure people are under in certain situations.

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Speaker 2: mmmmm ahead. Beyonce officially got that Vogue magazine out now

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Speaker 3: Was looking for it. I was like, it must not

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Speaker 2: I know it's the September issue, but I don't know

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Speaker 3: Right, So I was looking forward. They're like, nah, you

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Speaker 2: Now Beyonce is in. You know a lot of good

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Speaker 2: like it's Beyonce, Tracy, Ellis Ross and day Uh wipet Rihanna,

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Speaker 2: it's dope. Obviously, I said it must be my birthday month.

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Speaker 2: It's what we want it to be. It's what or

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Speaker 2: in some cases when we don't like somebody, it's still

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Speaker 2: But she turned out to be way ahead of the

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Speaker 4: This is something that everybody does. Everybody expects you to

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Speaker 2: I'm not even saying that everybody does it. I don't

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Speaker 2: ahead of game. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying

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Speaker 2: And look how we roast celebrities daily. Look how many

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Speaker 2: people are harassing them. How many celebrities have we seen

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Speaker 2: on Twitter? You the people that talk about Beyonce never

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Speaker 2: long time from now. You know, people have been imitating

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Speaker 2: they say your faith could never that this time is

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Speaker 2: for nobody else has really done it like this, you know.

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Speaker 2: And and uh so she was more. She was very

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Speaker 2: It was cool, but it wasn't great thing that she

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Speaker 2: kind of a hater, Robin. You've probably been writing about

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Speaker 2: this is what you do, Buue, Like, you can't really

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Speaker 2: Beyonce because it's Robin Gibbons. It's what she does. At

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Speaker 2: this point, she will find a way to be like,

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Speaker 2: not as cool as y'all. Think, you know, Serena Williams,

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Speaker 2: You know? So this is kind of her thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: at any rate she beyond. And then there was another

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Speaker 2: This is not for your standards of evaluation. I I

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Speaker 2: shit because I don't care. Don't care, and I and

437
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: I mean it when I say I don't care, right,

438
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: Like I don't say I don't care in some spiteful way,

439
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: but like I don't think I've ever cared what any

440
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: white person that's had to say about Beyonce in any

441
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: meaningful way. Come on beyond like a joke or being

442
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 2: like you stupid, Like it's like she don't do stuff

443
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: for them. Really, you know, it's kind of like our show,

444
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: like it's for us. And then if white people listen,

445
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: that's cool. But if some white dudes start talking about

446
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: how our podcast is just this and this, I'll be like, yeah, okay, brouh,

447
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 2: like you stay in your life.

448
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: Let's just right over there.

449
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: You know. I don't come to your I don't come

450
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: to your barbecue and watch out the season off of

451
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: your Chicken.

452
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, I don't crash your fun due party.

453
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 4: Leave me alone.

454
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: Leave me alone. Anyway, Here's seven things. Sir and Roomy

455
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: were born vi a C section. While Beyonce has mostly

456
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: kept Sirt and Roomy away from the spotlight, she opened

457
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: up for the first time about the birth of the

458
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 2: twins in the Vogue interview. She revealed that she had

459
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: to undergo a C section and detailed the stresses she

460
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: dealt with after the surgery. I after taking six months off,

461
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: she began prepreparation for Coachella, Yeah, and like it was dangerous.

462
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: So this is Beyonce and Serena. Now we know who

463
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: they are. All I have to do is say their

464
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: first name and one of them. I can just say

465
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: B a letter of the alphabet or the first syllable

466
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: her name, and most people will be like, I know

467
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: who that is and could have died during childbirth. Black

468
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 2: women died at a much higher rate. Yes, we do

469
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: during childbirth as is. And here we're talking about women

470
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: that we all assume have everything, and doctors are still

471
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: there Like you say you're in pain, but are you

472
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: really in pain? You know you negroes?

473
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Serena Willie was like, I know what's wrong with me?

474
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: They was like, no, you don't right, I'm sure you

475
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: can take it.

476
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,120
Speaker 3: Right. She basically had to show her ass that was like,

477
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: oh shit, you was right.

478
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: Use your fast twist much so I'm sure you can

479
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: take it. Her attitude towards her post pregnancy body is

480
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: changed after the birth of Blue Ivy B claimed that

481
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: she fell into society standards on how her body should look,

482
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: sharing that she pressured herself to quickly lose her post

483
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: pregnancy weight.

484
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 4: She lost that weight quit because I remember right after

485
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 4: Blue was born.

486
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: I want to say, was it the first on the

487
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: run door?

488
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: I want to say it was.

489
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: Or because she tore it like right after that, and

490
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 4: I was like, good god, she done got small.

491
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 2: And you know that's that pressure when you're already in

492
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: that spotlight like that.

493
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that snap back got some bullshit. Nope, your

494
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 4: body does not snap back. Women are not fucking rubber bands.

495
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: Yep. I was two hundred and eighteen pounds a day.

496
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: I gave both the birth the roomy and sir. So

497
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: this time she's she's actually took herself and let herself right. Rest.

498
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: Was swelling from toxemia and had been on bed rest

499
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: for over month. My health and my baby's health were

500
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: in danger, so I had an emergency sea section. We

501
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 2: spent many weeks in NICU. My husband was a soldier

502
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: in such a strong support system for me. I'm proud

503
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: to have been a witness to his strength and evolution

504
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: as a man, a best friend, and a father. And

505
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people booing out there, but

506
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: I mean this day relationship and that's what she witness

507
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: is what it is. I was in survival mode and

508
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: did not gasp grasp it all until months later. Today,

509
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: I have a connection to any parent who has been

510
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: through such an experience. After the sea section, my core

511
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: felt different. It had been a major surgery. Some of

512
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: your organs are temporary, are shifted temporarily, rare cases removed temporarily,

513
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: but during delivery. I'm not sure everyone understands that I

514
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: needed time to heal, to recover. During my recovery, I

515
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: gave myself self love and self care and brace being curvier.

516
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: I accepted that what my body wanted to be. After

517
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: six months, I started preparing for Coachella. I became vegan temporarily.

518
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: I gave up coffee, alcohol, and all fruit drinks. But

519
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: I was patient with myself and enjoyed my fuller curves.

520
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: My kids and the husband did too. We all did

521
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: actually say I don't want to tell.

522
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 3: You come on, you know, I hate to disappoint you,

523
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: but you were looking.

524
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah when you showed up with them lordies, Dick THI

525
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: save lives, don't they? Y'all get a witness, Amen, turn

526
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: to your neighbor and say, Dick, thighs. THI save lies

527
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: because she came out with them cakes. Everybody was like,

528
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 2: what it's like going on date night stuff. I think

529
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: it's important for That's why jay Z don't mind. Like

530
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: jay Z like, listen, I'm gonna have to look like

531
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 2: a cup. Y'all just gonna have to not respect me,

532
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: and that's fine, all right. I'm gonna be talking about therapy.

533
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: We're talking about intersectionality, and jay Z is like, I

534
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: don't give a y'all niggas like me or not call.

535
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: Me that nigga acknowledge me or not.

536
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: I give zero, y'all just jealous and he right, and

537
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: he right. I think it's important for women and men

538
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: to see and appreciate the beauty and their natural bodies.

539
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: That's why I stripped away the wigs and the hair

540
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: extensions and use little makeup for the shoot. To this day,

541
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: my arm, shoulder, breast stids are fuller. I have a

542
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 2: little mommy pouch and I'm in no rush to get

543
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: rid of it. I think it's real. Whenever I'm ready

544
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: to get a six pack, I will go on the

545
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: B Zone and work my ass off until I have it.

546
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: But right now, my little food pat and I feel

547
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: like we are meant to be. Come on, yeah, man,

548
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: that's dope. And you know, to see somebody like on

549
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: Beyonce's level, who we all look at and go, well,

550
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: she has a perfect body. Of course, nobody to see

551
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: that she has her own insecurities that she has to overcome.

552
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: To see that she has to accept her body aging changing.

553
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: You know, putting out kids is not exactly something that

554
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: is easy, like I.

555
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: Know it is, it's not.

556
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: And you know, talking to mothers, regardless of if you

557
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 4: had your child sea sectional natural birth, your body is

558
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 4: never the same, like you're just never the same. And

559
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: then when you have a C section, it takes longer

560
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: for your body to heal versus if you have a

561
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: child naturally because they literally have to cut you, you know,

562
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: completely across the you know, right below your stomach almost

563
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: like you're having a hysterectomy and they literally have to

564
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: open you up, and like be honest with they pull the.

565
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: Baby out, like it it is a lot to go through.

566
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: That and that stitch you back up and the stitches

567
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: got the heel and do you have to let your

568
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: body go through its proper course and you know, and

569
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: then you have to deal with with things that come

570
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: along with after you give birth, postprodum depression, you know, breastfeeding,

571
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 4: you know, dealing with a lot of shit. And then

572
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: you got people looking at you like, why don't you

573
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: lose this weight as quick as possible? And that's not

574
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: how the human body works. Now you do have I've

575
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 4: seen women who literally after they had their baby, their

576
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: bodies is like they never changed.

577
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: But for a lot of women, your your body won't

578
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: will never be the same.

579
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: And that's okay, you know, I think society in general,

580
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 4: because men, you know, quote unquote running act like you know,

581
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: if you ain't walking out here with a fucking six

582
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: pack every day, you ain't shit the fuck that. It's

583
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: a lot of women with sixty four and forty eight

584
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 4: ounces and one hundred and twenty ounces that got a man.

585
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: So what is we talking about here?

586
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: Well, also, she did used to believe these things, correct,

587
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: she wrote, after the birth of my first child, I

588
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: believed in the thing society said about how my body

589
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: should look. I put pressure on myself to lose all

590
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: the baby wait in three months and scheduled a small

591
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: tour to was sure I would do it. Looking back,

592
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: that was crazy. I was still breastfeeding when I performed

593
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: the Revel shows in Atlantic City in twenty twelve. After

594
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: the Twins, I approach things differently. So yeah, like she

595
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: was on that too. That pressure is real.

596
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: It is And three months is that alone is a

597
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: short period of time.

598
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like to think somebody as iconic as as

599
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: Beyonce would be able to shirt that. She're like, man,

600
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: fuck that, But she's also under the pressure to be

601
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: Beyonce for everybody opening doors. Until there's a mosaic of

602
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: perspectives coming from different ethnicities behind the lens, we will

603
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: continue to have a narrow approach and view of what

604
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: the world actually looks like. That is why I wanted

605
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: to work with this brilliant twenty three year old photographer,

606
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: Tyler Mitchell to get on my staying ship right now.

607
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: And I'm trying not to hop on this pull up

608
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: here real quick, but I'm gonna have to go ahead

609
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: and do it. Does sound like a stupid woman in y'all?

610
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: Right, people kill me with that lot of do.

611
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: Y'all think this Alarge ghosts right?

612
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: This?

613
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: Did she steal this from somebody else? Because people always

614
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: trying to take the credit from her in a way

615
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: that is so disgusting, it's literally disgusting. Like she can't

616
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: be smart, she can't be pretty, she can't be deep,

617
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: she can't be thoughtful, she can't be all this shit

618
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: like she she can't be pro black. It's all gotta

619
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: be fake. It's all like she has basically given people

620
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: nothing to feel like they have to doubt her for

621
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: this shit, and yet they they still try to find

622
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: a way to come for her neck. She literally don't fuck.

623
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: She don't bother nobody. She really just don't bother nobody.

624
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: You got people that will cap for like an Azalea

625
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: Banks for the seventy fifth time they got some shit

626
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: to say about Beyonce. She really just be out here

627
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: doing her thing and trying to help. That's it. And

628
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: it's still you still got people doubt in her intelligence,

629
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: trying to give other people credit for her work, ethic,

630
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: trying to give other people credit for her visuals, as

631
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: if she doesn't give credit when she breaks those barriers

632
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: and she incorporates those people's stuff into what she does.

633
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: And don't even get me started on the legal team,

634
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: because they give people credit just so they don't have

635
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: to avoid No bullshit, like you don't see people so

636
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: and Beyonce for shit, because she'd be like, nah, we

637
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: got the rights to that from this sign. Do we

638
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: sign this? If there's something more than that, y'all gotta

639
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: let me know. So yeah, And like this twenty year

640
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: old brown person gets to be a cover of a

641
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: magazine photographer that has never let a black person be

642
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: on the cover of this shit? What does this do

643
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: for his career?

644
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: Now?

645
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: Right?

646
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: What door does she open for him?

647
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: Now?

648
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: You know she just trying to help. When I first

649
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: started twenty one years ago, I was told that it

650
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: was hard for me to get on the covers of

651
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 2: magazine because black people did not sell. Clearly, that has

652
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 2: been proven a myth. Not only is the African American

653
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: on the cover of the most important month for Vogue,

654
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: this is the first ever Vogue cover shot by an

655
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: African American photographer. It is important to me that I

656
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: help open doors for younger artists. There are so many

657
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: cultural and societal barriers to entry that I like to

658
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: do what I can to level the plan field, to

659
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: present a different point of view for people who may

660
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: feel like their voices don't matter. Imagine if someone hadn't

661
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: given a chance to the brilliant women who came before me.

662
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: Josephine Baker, need a small earth of kit Aretha Frankly,

663
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: Tina Turner, Donna rosswod In Houston in the list goes on,

664
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: they open the doors for me, and I pray that

665
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: I'm doing all I can to open doors for the

666
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: next generation of talents. If people in powerful positions continue

667
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: to hire and cast only people who look like them,

668
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: sound like them, come from the same neighborhood as they

669
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: grew up in, they will never have a greater understanding

670
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: of experiences different from their own. They will hire the

671
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: same models, curate the same art, cast the same actors

672
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: over and over again, and we will all lose. The

673
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: beauty of social media is it's completely democratic. Everyone has

674
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: to say everyone's voice counts, and everyone has a chance

675
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: to paint the world from their own perspective. And she

676
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: don't even be fucking with y'all on social media like that.

677
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: She's right, She's just like listen, I know not to

678
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: post nothing because y'all niggas is haters, but I know

679
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: that this impact has had on me as an observer speaks,

680
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: and they have to make it speak in society, can't

681
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: just stick it relegated to social media. Ancestry. I come

682
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: from a lineage of broken male female relationships, abusive power,

683
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: and mistrust. Only when I saw that clearly was I

684
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: able to resolve these conflicts in my own relationship. Connecting

685
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: to the past and knowing our history makes us both

686
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: bruised and beautiful. I researched my ancestry recently and learned

687
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: that I come from a slave owner who fell in

688
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: love with and married a slave. I had to process

689
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: that revelation over time, question what it meant, and try

690
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: to put it into perspective. I now believe it's why

691
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: God blessed me with my twins. Male or female energy

692
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: was able to coexist and grow in my blood for

693
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: the first time. Yeah, because she's had multiple miscarriages.

694
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

695
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: I pray that I'm able to break the generational curses

696
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: in my family, that my children will have less complicated lives.

697
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: Real shit, real shit, And it takes power to do that.

698
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: It takes a lot of resolve. Because we always talk

699
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: about general stuff is cyclical. We talk about generational violence.

700
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: We talk about people repeating the same mistakes. If you

701
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: don't have a father, How you're gonna learn to be

702
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: a father if you don't, you know, if your mama

703
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: was abusive, that you're gonna be abusive. Stuff like that.

704
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: But sometimes somebody has to break those cycles, and that

705
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 2: might not look the way you think is gonna look.

706
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be pretty.

707
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: No it's not.

708
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: And a lot of times when it comes to breaking

709
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: those cycles, a lot of times the person that decides

710
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: the book stops here. A lot of times they're ostracized

711
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 4: for saying and the book stops here, and people act

712
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: like something's wrong with them for saying, Oh, no, no, no,

713
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: I'm not putting up with this, I'm not dealing with this,

714
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: or I refuse to go down that same path.

715
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, or just look like the hardest thing about stuff

716
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 2: like this is when you on the side that you don't.

717
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: It's like Alanine, like people are alcoholics are anonymous, they teach them, Well,

718
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: you're kind of attracted to people that are alcoholics, and

719
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: then you end up being in a cycle as well,

720
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: like your addiction is them. But see, if you examine that,

721
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: that makes you have to take some level of responsibility

722
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: for your actions, even if you're not as complicit as

723
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: a person who is the alcoholic or whatever. Right, it's

724
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: not your disease, but it is. You're choosing to deal

725
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: with this, and you're not leaving. And there may be

726
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: some a bunch of factors. You may like feeling superior

727
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: or superior to somebody, so you keep dating the same

728
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: type of person over and over, or you know, you

729
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: keep hanging in this person's life. You can feel something

730
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: over You may be abusive with the way that you enable.

731
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: You may enable them. There's a bunch of shit, right,

732
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: And if both parties want to salvage that relationship and

733
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: they both are willing to get help, you can still

734
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: fix those things. You can still heal those wounds. But

735
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: it does require self examination, and most of us are

736
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: never gonna get that far. We're very much like black

737
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: and white. If I'm not wrong, then I'm fucking Then

738
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: I'm good, Then I have no part in this. Right,

739
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: And so I think with Beyonce talking about coming from

740
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 2: a long line of broken male female relationships and then

741
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: finding herself in one, she stopped and reflected on the

742
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: whole thing, like, what does this start from? Where does

743
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: this energy come from? What have I learned watching my

744
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: mom and dad fall out? What have I learned? You

745
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And what am I taking back?

746
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: That's unhelpful to my relationship? What am I The other

747
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: part of this is you start, and people do this

748
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: every day in their regular life. You start seeing people

749
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: as the mistakes or the abuses you've dealt with in

750
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 2: the past, and it's a whole different person, correct. So

751
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 2: that person might be salvageable, they might be remorse for regretful,

752
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: they might be willing to resolve something. And you're going,

753
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: but Lamart didn't or my dad didn't or so and

754
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: so wasn't shit. I'm not letting you drag me down boom.

755
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: But you're really just repeating what the fuck you've learned already,

756
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: not saying that that's bad or necessarily, But if you're

757
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: trying to break those cycles, you're gonna have to try

758
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: a different approach. You can't do the same thing that

759
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 2: somebody else did, or you know, if the situation is different.

760
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: You know, if the situation the same, then I get it.

761
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: But anyway, point being, that's some deep shit to be

762
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: able to say, like I didn't want to be, you know,

763
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: kind of repeat the same path. So I said, what

764
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: can we do to like resolve this together. That's that's hard,

765
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: especially when you ain't learned it. You don't have You

766
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: can't look at your parents and be like, well, they

767
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: fixed it. You can't look at your friends, they fixed it.

768
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: You can't look at your past relationships. We fixed it,

769
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: you know, Like cause how do you know You're not

770
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: just gonna be the fool for some nigga. This nigga

771
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: won't be cheating again next moment. Like you don't respect me,

772
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: I don't respect you. You can't right back. It's a lot

773
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: of shit to it. So anyway, I appreciate herself sharing that.

774
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: She said, I pray that I'm able to break the

775
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 2: generational course curses in my family and that my children

776
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: have less complicated lives. My journey, Uh, there are many

777
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: shades on every journey. Nothing is black or matter of fact,

778
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: let me go back for a second. My dad is

779
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: like that. Like my dad talks about his father and

780
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: some of the stuff he dealt with. I won't put

781
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: too many details into it because that's his storyteller. But

782
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: still he talks about that and not wanting to be

783
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: that kind of father and he wasn't you know what

784
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: I mean? But he had to take some level of

785
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: like self observation, because I know a lot of dudes

786
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: who repeat the same mistakes and the same abuses that

787
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: they got from the fathers or the absentee fathers in

788
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: the lives that they like in their lives so far,

789
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: and they swear up and down they won't be like that,

790
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: and then they have a should and they're just like that.

791
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: You know, you have to break that cycle. It can't

792
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: be woe with me all the time, you know, you

793
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: have to find a way to break it if you're

794
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: truly about that life, you know. So Yeah, I just

795
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: think that's important, and I think that's kind of what

796
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: she was going in on my journey. There are many

797
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: shades on every journey. Nothing is black and white. I've

798
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: been through hell and back, and I'm grateful for every scar.

799
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: I have experienced betrayals and heartbreaks in many forms. I've

800
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: had many. I've had disappointments in business partnerships as well

801
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 2: as personal ones, and they all left me feeling neglected, lost,

802
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: and vulnerable. Through it all, I have learned to laugh

803
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: and cry and grow. I look at the woman, and

804
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: I was in my twenties. I see a young lady

805
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: going in the but intent on pleasing everyone around her.

806
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 2: I now feel so much more beautiful, so much sexier,

807
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: and so much more interesting and so much more powerful. Yeah,

808
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: I mean that's that same. I feel like that's the

809
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: same thing from the last one, kind of like not

810
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: letting the things that have hurt you before keep you

811
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: stuck somewhere. And also I think I see this a

812
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: lot in Black women around me that are getting older

813
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: and like stepping more into their lives, more confident, I

814
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: guess the word to say, more self assured, despite you know,

815
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: all the bullshit that they've gone through and deal with.

816
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: It just seemed like, I don't know, like people are

817
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: getting more comfortable being themselves.

818
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And as a woman, that's a process. It is

819
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 4: a complete process because a lot of women.

820
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: A lot of.

821
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 4: Unrealistic expectations are placed on them about just existing and

822
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: sex and mates and you know, intimacy and relationships and like,

823
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: it's a lot that's placed upon little girls, and these

824
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: little girls turn up to be women with a lot

825
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 4: of insecurities, particularly if you're somebody like me that constantly

826
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 4: got picked on and criticized about certain things, be it

827
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 4: your weight, be it your skin, be it your hair,

828
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: be it how you look, you know, and that shit

829
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: sticks with people, you know, for a long time, and

830
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: it's very hard to actually get over, and you never

831
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: quote unquote get over, but you get to the point

832
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: that you begin to be more comfortable in your own skin,

833
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 4: you know. And I know it might sound silly, but yeah,

834
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: I used to have to I've come a long way.

835
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 4: I used to have to look into look in the

836
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: mirror at myself and tell myself that I was beautiful.

837
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 3: I mean literally look in the mirror.

838
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: And tell myself that I was beautiful, you know, and

839
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: I am wonderful, you know.

840
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: And it's one of those things where that might sign

841
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: quote unquote.

842
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 4: Childish, but it's a lot of grown ass women that

843
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 4: do not think that they are beautiful.

844
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: They don't think that they're beautiful. They don't think that

845
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: they're worthy of love. They don't think that they're.

846
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: Worthy a maid or having children, and like, those are

847
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 4: heavy weights that a lot of women have, right and

848
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 4: they take this into adulthood and a lot of times

849
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: some of these women have children, they have little girls,

850
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 4: and that heartache and that pain and that broken heartedness if.

851
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 3: They're not careful, is passed on to their daughter.

852
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 4: So if you struggle with things, all of a sudden,

853
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 4: you're constantly criticizing your daughter for having big feed or

854
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 4: having you know, a big bud or having big breast,

855
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 4: or criticizing her about her skin and criticizing her about

856
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 4: her hair and telling her she got to do this,

857
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: and telling.

858
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 3: Her to be more more womanly and don't be a

859
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: time boy.

860
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 4: Whatever it is, you find yourself picking her apart, just

861
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 4: like you were picked apart.

862
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: And the thing is, you know how that pain feels.

863
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: So you have to get to the point where you

864
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: have to say, Okay, that's that, back back to that,

865
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: the buck stops here.

866
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: That's back to that. The buck stops here, you know.

867
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: And there are a lot of things now since I'm

868
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 4: almost forty, I am to the point now in my forties,

869
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: well I can truly say, you know, confidently, with no

870
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: shaking in my foundation, that I actually.

871
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: Truly love myself.

872
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: I've loved myself, don't get me wrong, but I've never

873
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: loved myself like I do now. And when I mean

874
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: love myself like I do now, that means I love

875
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 4: all my imperfections. I love what I'm not, I love

876
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 4: what I can't do. You know, I acknowledge what I

877
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 4: can't do. You know, I I love the scars on

878
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: my skin, you know, the birthmarks that I have.

879
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: You know, I love my hair as it is.

880
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 4: You know, you get to the point where you look

881
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: in it and you have to tell yourself it's only

882
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: one me. I am unique, and it's only one me.

883
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 4: Can't nobody duplicate me. Can't nobody do this life but me?

884
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: You know.

885
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: And a lot of times, once you get to the

886
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 4: point where you truly love yourself, that that self confidence

887
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: comes in. And now a lot of women who has

888
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 4: had self confidence all their lives, those women, you know,

889
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: God bless you, but for I can't speak for you

890
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 4: because I haven't always had the self confidence that I

891
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 4: have right now. You know, I can do things now

892
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 4: that I never thought I would do before.

893
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: You know, And you know, you get to the point

894
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 3: to where you know.

895
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 4: You actually feel like you have a voice as you

896
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: get older, you know, because that's the thing.

897
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: And not to get off topic, one thing about dudes.

898
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: A lot of dudes like young women.

899
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: They like young women because you don't know who you

900
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 4: are at eighteen years old. You don't know who you

901
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 4: are at twenty one years old, you don't know you're

902
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 4: still learning.

903
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: You are easily manipulated.

904
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 4: You can easily be twisted and molded into what they

905
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: want you to be.

906
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: But once you kind of cross.

907
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: About twenty five, and particularly after you cross thirty, you

908
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 4: get to the point that you have standards.

909
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: And there's something about standards.

910
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: That make a niggas that want to manipulate you want

911
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: to cast you to the side and tell you you're

912
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: too old.

913
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: It's almost like they want to criticize.

914
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 4: You for being more comfortable in your skin and knowing

915
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: who you are and having standards and say, this is

916
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna put up with, and this is the

917
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: bullshit that I'm not going to put up with. And

918
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: I think Beyonce has got to that point where you

919
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: get to your point in your life where you're like,

920
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: oh no, no, I'm not gonna deal with this and

921
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna rower my bar. Like my bar is

922
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 4: here and I'm not gonna rower my bar. You either

923
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 4: got to cross my bar or that's it.

924
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 3: Because that's the thing.

925
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: Men are never required the lord of their bars. They

926
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: can have the most ridiculous fucking rules ever. My woman

927
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: gotta be nine or nine pounds. My woman gotta be

928
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 4: my woman gotta have green eyes. Don't Nobody ever goes

929
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 4: to no nigga but like nigga, load your standards.

930
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: Nobody ever tells niggas that. But yet if a woman

931
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: says I want a man, that's you know, funny.

932
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 4: Or I want a man that make an X amount

933
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: of money, or I want a man you know that

934
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 4: that that that that I'm sexually attracted to.

935
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 3: You know people that act.

936
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 4: Like there's something wrong with you, like you're just supposed

937
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 4: to take and accept any fucking thing just because it

938
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: has a pain's attached to it, And that's not true.

939
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: But even if you say, I don't want a man, right,

940
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't want kids, I don't want a house, I

941
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: want a career like this, I want to live in

942
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: this place, there's always some negotiation when it comes to women,

943
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: like what women want, Like hold up, now, you're starting

944
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: to ask for a little too much.

945
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: Right like like like like for a woman, it's always

946
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 4: a give and a take. Like for a woman, something

947
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: has to always be sacrificed. But a man, it's no

948
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: self sacrifice. You know, he doesn't have to self sacrifice.

949
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 4: Even if he have a hu, even if he has

950
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 4: a wife and kids, like traditional marriage, he doesn't have

951
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: to self sacrifice for that wife if he don't want to,

952
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 4: for those kids if he doesn't want.

953
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: But you know why, that's because people have set the

954
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 2: bar at men are sacrificing by getting things that actually

955
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: edify their lives, right Like, like, so a sacrifice when

956
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: you talk about men, is you got a wife? Well,

957
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: look at out all the women you won't be able

958
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: to get now. Oh, oh man, you gotta hang up

959
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: your bachelor jersey and the rafters because you can't be

960
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: a player no more.

961
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 3: You know.

962
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: Oh you got kids, Well, now you're gonna have to

963
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: hang out with those motherfuckers and raise them. Why would

964
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: you do something stupid like that? Like it's it's always

965
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: coming from a position of and for the record, like

966
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: a wife, a partner or whatever. Make sure and it's

967
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: only what just that man, because we never say it's

968
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: about gay men, But your wife is a partner in

969
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: your life that we essentially believe patriarchally makes life easier,

970
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: right like in addition to you know, maybe splitting the

971
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: bills and shit. But also like these same men believe

972
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: wives jobs are the crazy kids, cook clean, fuck you

973
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: all this shit right that they believe that, And yet

974
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: they still would go, I am the one who lost

975
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: in this deal because I had to get married and

976
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 2: these the women is holding me down, Like this woman

977
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: is fucking up my ability to get other women. And

978
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: that's the only value I really have. Same thing with children,

979
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: you know, and I don't. And the thing for me is,

980
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: I guess the satisfart is that men don't really believe

981
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: that on a core on a core level individually, if

982
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: you know a man well, like I'm not talking about

983
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: the shit that people say in casual conversation and like

984
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: what comedians talking about. I'm talking about just if you

985
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: know a fucking dude, you just know somebody like that's

986
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: your brother. That's how close you are. Motherfuckers be so

987
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: thankful to have a wife. They so they love their children.

988
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: My life is so much better. I didn't know my

989
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: life could be this until I had children. I didn't

990
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: know what a purpose of my life was supposed to be.

991
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: But that's so corny anti like what we call masculinity.

992
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 2: You would never really express that kind of shit outside

993
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: of maybe like a church or some sort of like

994
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: specific meeting about something like that. You would never be

995
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: at the bar and be like talking about how how

996
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: much fucking fun it is to go to your kids

997
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: soccer game and all that. You just won't do that.

998
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 4: And to be a parent. Yeah, And you know is John.

999
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 4: John loves his kids and he loves his wife. And

1000
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 4: I member for Father's Day. I hit him up and

1001
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: I think it might have been a year to two ago,

1002
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: and I told him, I love that you love being

1003
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 4: the daddy, right, like like like he is one person

1004
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 4: that you can tell John Kenny.

1005
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: John he loved being a daddy.

1006
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, has a blog dedicated and everything to it now,

1007
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: like that's.

1008
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 4: His life and and it's one of those things where

1009
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 4: you know there's good fathers.

1010
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: But it was like his joy, like like he's like, yes,

1011
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: this is me, this is who I am. I love

1012
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: being the deaddy. I post pictures of my children. I

1013
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck, y'all got deal.

1014
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 4: I love my wife, this is us and I'm and

1015
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: I'm and I'm here for it. And there are a

1016
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: lot of other men who feel that way too, but

1017
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 4: they are more reserved where they don't fit. It's I

1018
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 4: don't know what it is being happy the bar is.

1019
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: So much lower. It's just like you said, it's lowers

1020
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: when uh, when a man talks about something like this,

1021
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: it's it's very it's praised in a way that you know,

1022
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: it's almost like, I'm like, the term mommy blogger became

1023
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: very pejorative because so many women were doing it, and

1024
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: so many women were you know, it's kind of considered

1025
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 2: very white lane, like I'm a mommy and I'm blogging

1026
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: about it, But being a mom's just hard fucking work.

1027
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: Yes, it is.

1028
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, if a dude

1029
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: did it, it works double way, right, Like, on the

1030
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: one hand, also bitch asking him got a blob about

1031
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: being a daddy, and on the other hand, is he's

1032
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: so brave to be able to talk about being in

1033
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 2: his children's lives and doing the things fathers are supposed

1034
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: to do and taking joy in it. Because we really

1035
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: there's a i mean, societally, there's a huge pressure on

1036
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: men to be cool quote unquote and be like I'm

1037
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 2: the miserable curmudgeon and my wife. You know, it's like

1038
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: the opening to the Jetsons, right, you know, if y'all

1039
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: ever seen that old cartoon of Jetsons. It's like the

1040
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: opening of that where like his son gets money for

1041
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: lunch and flies off, his daughter needs money for hug

1042
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: school shit and flies off. His wife takes the whole

1043
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: fucking while it leaves him a dollar for lunch and

1044
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: drives off or whatever. And you know, the whole thing

1045
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 2: is like, there's miserable man. He got married. His fucking

1046
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: dog is the only thing he likes is it's fucking

1047
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: got a mean maid. It's got you know, like and

1048
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: that that's I mean married with children. Like it's just

1049
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: over and over and over and over again. We've seen

1050
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: this like archetype of That's what manhood is is you

1051
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: provide for a family that doesn't really appreciate you. You're

1052
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: kind of miserable, but that's how it's supposed to be.

1053
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: And you know, you're always flumm it's because you just

1054
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: come in and you're like, why isn't the dinner ready?

1055
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: I work so hard, you know, and now these lazy

1056
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: layabouts are doing nothing all day. You know that kind

1057
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: of shit. So yeah, in the one hand, men get

1058
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: a lot more credit for not being that, But on

1059
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: the other hand, society definitely does pressure men to be that,

1060
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: and the opposite for women, right, Like, if a woman

1061
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: buys all into my motherhood, I'm staying at home. We're

1062
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 2: like that ain't nothing special. You're supposed to do that.

1063
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: But I taught my kids seven languages, and bitch come

1064
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: out like, oh you home school, okay, and that's all day,

1065
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: ain't you. That's a hard your man, the one raising

1066
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: themuch blah blah blah. Right, we do that to women

1067
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: so fucking often. It's it's ridiculous. Right. But then if

1068
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 2: let's say a woman does go break the mode and goes,

1069
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: I want to be a CEO, I want to run

1070
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: my own business or something like that, then you got

1071
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: the other You ain't want to be a mommy? What

1072
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: about your kids? What they gonna do well?

1073
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 3: And what about these imaginary children? You gotta you got

1074
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: a man. Man, When one day you're gonna get older,

1075
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: regret you ain't never had no kids.

1076
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 2: You're gonna get married. We ain't gonna get married. We're

1077
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: gonna have some kids, you know, like we do them.

1078
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: So like it just kind of patriarchy is a motherfucker.

1079
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: It just kind of works both what I'm saying, that's

1080
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: a long way to go, but yeah, and I mean, well,

1081
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 2: you say, particularly on women, I say it is fucking

1082
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: up men too.

1083
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: Yes, it is.

1084
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: And I don't want to be little that because I

1085
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 2: get the whole like gender wars, pick a side thing,

1086
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: but because men are fucked up, it is making everything

1087
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: else fucked up.

1088
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: Agree.

1089
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 2: So it's like, I think, the like with most forms

1090
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: of oppression and discrimination and shit, we like to look

1091
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 2: at the people who are mostly perpetrating it and be like, well, yes, them,

1092
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: and it is them. I'm just saying, men in their

1093
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 2: own short sightedness have hurt us, Yes, and then we

1094
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: hurt other people because we are hurt and we're doing

1095
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 2: all the hurting. We blame everybody else for us being hurt,

1096
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: but it's us, right. These women don't want to Well,

1097
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: what are the women learning from all the laws and

1098
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: shit we passed, all the rules, all the patriarchy, chivalry

1099
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: and shit that we have forced on women for the

1100
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: whole entire existence, And then we turn around and be like,

1101
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: why y'all so hard on us? Like nigga, we hard

1102
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: on us. All this shit flows down here from us

1103
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: like in the way that it's designed to flow, because

1104
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: we set this shit up anyway, I say, we, But

1105
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: I mean white people, but y'all know what I mean.

1106
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: A lot of black dudes, black people, races participating this shit. Anyway.

1107
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: John's blog is called The Father's Glow If you guys

1108
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: want to check it out, it's a pretty dope blog.

1109
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, so back to Beyonce. That was alongside track.

1110
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: She also but yeah, I appreciate you talking about it though. Freedom.

1111
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: I don't like too much structure. I like to be free.

1112
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: I'm not alive unless I'm creating something. I'm not happy

1113
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: if I'm not creating it. If I'm not dreaming, if

1114
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: I'm not creating a dream and making it into something real.

1115
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: If I'm not happy, I'm not improving, evolving, moving forward, inspiring,

1116
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: teaching and learning. Yeah, that's also kind of a I

1117
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: like that she addresses her teaching, learning improving thing because

1118
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: a lot of times people want people to be stuck somewhere,

1119
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: like it's always you got to allow people to grow

1120
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: when they like you, but when they don't like you.

1121
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: It's believe people are when they say who they are

1122
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: and all this shit. It's like, hold up, now, people

1123
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: aren't static creatures, you know. And she's a person that

1124
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: has grown into a lot of like her. You can

1125
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: tell through her music She's grown into a lot of directions. Coachella.

1126
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 2: I had a clear version for Coachella. I was so

1127
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: specific because I've seen it, I'd heard it, and it

1128
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: was already written inside of me. One day, I was

1129
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 2: randomly singing the Black National Anthem the roomy while putting

1130
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 2: her to sleep. I started humming it to her every

1131
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: day and the show at the time, I was working

1132
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: on a version of the anthem with these dark minor

1133
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: chords and stomps and belts and screens. And after a

1134
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: few days of humming the anthem, I realized I had the

1135
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: melody wrong. I was singing the wrong anthem. One of

1136
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: the most rewarding parts of the show was making that change.

1137
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: I swear I felt pure joy shining down on us.

1138
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: I know that most of the young people on the

1139
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: stage and in the audience did not know the history

1140
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: of the Black National Anthem before Coachella, but they understood

1141
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: the feeling it gave them. It was a celebration of

1142
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: all the people who sacrificed more than we could ever imagine,

1143
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: who moved the world forwards so that it could welcome

1144
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: a woman of color to headline such a festival. People

1145
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: will still tell you that that show was not her

1146
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: influence of her vision. People will still try to find.

1147
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 3: A way, Oh, that whole show was all her, right.

1148
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. It's honestlyicuous. Like they forget she's a nigga

1149
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: from Texas. It's like they forget, like she has become

1150
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: so ethereal in our brains that she also can't possibly

1151
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: coexist in the other part of our brains. It's just

1152
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: like she's just a regularized black girl too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1153
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: that is also extraordinary. A black girl can be extraordinary.

1154
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: She doesn't have to have some like, you know, no

1155
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: spin to it. You know, it doesn't have to you

1156
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: didn't have to have that Ivory League education. It doesn't

1157
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: have to buy that step from white folks.

1158
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 4: A lot of yeah, and sometimes a lot of niggas

1159
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: get mad because it ain't got.

1160
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: That approval right. They want to give it to other

1161
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: lesser successful, or lesser known or more eccentric people. But yo,

1162
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: it's her. Why couldn't that be possible? On nor two.

1163
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: One of the most memorable moments for me on the

1164
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: On the Run two tour was a Berlin show at

1165
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: Olympia Stadium, the site of the nineteen thirty six Olympics.

1166
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: This is a site where that was used to promote

1167
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: the rhetoric of hate, racism, and the viness. It is

1168
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: the place where Jesse Owens when four gold medals, destroying

1169
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: the myth of white supremacy. Less than ninety years later,

1170
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: two black people performed there to a packed sold out stadium.

1171
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 2: When Jay and I sang our final song, we saw

1172
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: everyone smile, I hold their hands, kissing and full of love.

1173
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: To see such human growth and connection. I live for

1174
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: those moments legacy. My mother taught me the importance of

1175
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: not just being seen, but of seeing myself. Yeah, her

1176
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: mom got them like therapy and shit. From the time

1177
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: they was like little, Yeah, like she was ahead of

1178
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: this shit.

1179
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was way ahead of that stuff, you know,

1180
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: because you have to think and had Beyonce kind of

1181
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 4: a teen twenty and all of a sudden, her younger

1182
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 4: sister happened to be in that in that light of

1183
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 4: trying to live up to the expectation.

1184
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: And yes, you have.

1185
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 4: To get it to the point where everybody kind of

1186
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 4: understands how the other one feels. Because you know, children

1187
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 4: naturally only are very self centered and it's hard to

1188
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 4: get children to think outside themselves.

1189
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 2: Yep. As a mother two girls, is important to me

1190
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: that they see themselves too in books, films, and on runways.

1191
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: And it's important to me that they see themselves as CEOs,

1192
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: as bosses, and that they know that they can write

1193
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: the script for their own lives. They can speak their

1194
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: minds and they have no ceiling. They don't have to

1195
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: be a certain type or fit into a specific category.

1196
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: They don't have to be politically correct. As long as

1197
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: they're authentic, respectful, compassionate, and empathetic. They can explore any religion,

1198
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: fall in love with any race, and love who they

1199
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: want to love. I want the same things for my son.

1200
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: I want him to know that he can be strong

1201
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: and brave, but he can be sensitive and kind. I

1202
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: want my son to have a high emotional IQ where

1203
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: he is free to be caring, truthful, and honest. And

1204
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: it's everything a woman wants and the man, and yet

1205
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: we don't teach it to our boys. Come, I'm telling you, man,

1206
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: and I guess you know. I'm not a parent, so

1207
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 2: it's probably easier for me to say than it is

1208
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: for people to do. It's probably I'm sure society is

1209
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: extremeline to kind of put you know, you know, you

1210
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: have the gender that you assume your children are, and

1211
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 2: you just put them on the path, right, Little girls

1212
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: gonna go to dance class, little boys gonna go play football,

1213
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: you know, and you just and then in every notch

1214
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: you just expected to keep going, to keep going and

1215
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: keep going. And yet we turn around and you see

1216
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: the mess that this is created of our society when

1217
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: we look at the adults and we look at the

1218
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: kids that as they get older, and you see like

1219
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: all this violence from one type to the next. You

1220
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: see homophobia, transphobia, you see misogyny, you see hate crimes,

1221
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: you see racist you see all this shit, and yet

1222
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: no one stops and goes like are we raising our

1223
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: kids right?

1224
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 4: Like?

1225
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: Is this the best we have? Like when they get older?

1226
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: Is this the world I want them to inherit the

1227
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: world that I came into, you know what I mean?

1228
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: So how do we stop that trend and be like

1229
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: I want my son to have emotional intelligence as well

1230
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 2: as my daughter. I need them as a human being

1231
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 2: to possess a skill that helps human beings, not because

1232
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: I need a boy to have emotional tailors, or a

1233
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: girl to have emotion intelligence. We already raised kids in

1234
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: a way with the whole gender thing, where we give

1235
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: certain skills that and I feel like all these skills

1236
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: can be positive, period, So don't I'm not knocking people

1237
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: for having children out or raising them to be a

1238
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: certain I'm saying all these are positive. Teaching somebody to

1239
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: have empathy, teaching somebody to have to express themselves, to

1240
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 2: allow themselves to cry, to be fragile, to allow themselves

1241
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: that's not wrong, but it's also not exclusively for girls, right.

1242
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: And teaching someone to be strong and to believe in

1243
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 2: themselves and to be tough and resilient, that's not just

1244
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: for boys. It's not wrong either. But when you teach

1245
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: someone exclusively that without the other, I think we see

1246
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: the kind of society we get. I don't think that's good.

1247
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like we can do better. You know.

1248
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: I love that she would say that, you know, about

1249
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: her daughters and her son, or she's like, look, I

1250
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: mean I want my kids to know it's okay if

1251
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: they like if my daughters want to be like business

1252
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 2: women and shit, or just they want to author their

1253
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: own lives in a way that we don't allow girls

1254
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: to really do. It's like, oh, you need to get

1255
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: into the script. The script is you go to school,

1256
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: maybe you get married, you have some kids, you at

1257
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: a home rent cycle repeat like, come on, when are

1258
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: you gonna take care of a man? That is your

1259
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: job and do it to the day you die, till

1260
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: the day you fucking die. Oh he dies first, whatever,

1261
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: but you do it until and then you die old

1262
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: fensterir or some shit, right, That is the cycle we

1263
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: put on girls, and then with boys, you know, it's

1264
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: that opposite thing gonna get all the girls gonna do.

1265
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: And then we wonder why the fucking boys and girls

1266
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: come men and women and they don't fucking line up

1267
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: congruently when it comes to sis headshit. And that's not

1268
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: even talking about other stuff. But we wonder why they

1269
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 2: don't line up. That's why we've taught them two different

1270
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: sets of values and expect them to align when we

1271
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: could have easily tapped both of them the same values.

1272
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: You know, there's no reason that, in my opinion, that

1273
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: as a parent, you should be like I won't teach

1274
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: my son to cook. I will teach my daughter to cook.

1275
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. Both of them, motherfuckers can be in that

1276
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: kitchen the same way if you want to. Both of

1277
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: them can cut the grass if that's what you want,

1278
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: you know. But I just think that's dope for her

1279
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: to recognize that. I all to touch teach my son

1280
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: how to fall victim to what the Internet says he

1281
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: should be or how he should love. I want to

1282
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: create better representations for him so he is allowed to

1283
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: reach his full potential as a man, and to teach

1284
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: him that real magic he possesses in the world is

1285
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: the power to firm his own existence. I'm in a

1286
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 2: place of gratitude right now. I'm accepting who I am.

1287
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: I will continue to explore every inch of my soul

1288
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: and every part of my artistry. I want to learn more,

1289
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: teach more, and live in full. I've worked long and

1290
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: hard to be able to get to the place where

1291
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: I can choose to surround myself with what fulfills and

1292
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: inspires me. As told the clover Hope Boom, Uh yeah man,

1293
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 2: she did that. Uh. And also just more importantly, man,

1294
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: she said it in her own words. I cannot the

1295
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 2: amount of power and uh just goals that she is

1296
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: to be able to do that shit.

1297
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: I don't want it filtered through nobody else yet.

1298
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 2: I want to tell my own story and her own

1299
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: fullness without you trying to be like, well, what about

1300
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 2: the elevator or some ship like like, let me tell

1301
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: you what's important to me right now, And if you

1302
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: don't want to, then we just won't do the cover

1303
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: and I won't do magazine.

1304
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 3: That's fine.

1305
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was fine walking away like y'all, y'all you

1306
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 4: know people that like she would have been like, Okay,

1307
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 4: I guess we won't be doing this.

1308
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's fucking amazing. Man, she just fucking amazing.

1309
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: All right. I don't even know where to go after this.

1310
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: She's uh, she's so much everything. Uh, let me see

1311
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: what we got here. I guess we could do some news.

1312
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: There is something.

1313
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 3: I want to ask you.

1314
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 2: There's something that I want to know, and so.

1315
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 3: This question.

1316
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: You have any answer, So tell me what I want

1317
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: to know.

1318
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 5: Do you wanna fump?

1319
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: Do you wanna thump? Won't you tell me now? Won't

1320
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: you tell me now? If you wanna funck? Let me

1321
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 2: show you how do you wanna funk with me?

1322
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: Do you wanna fuck with me?

1323
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: All Right, LGBTQ News time, and of course it's not

1324
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: all good. All right, let's go. God, what story to

1325
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: start with? Uh? I gave protested threatens to stab ungodly

1326
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: homosexuals leaving Britney Spirits concert. You know how far your

1327
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 2: way you have to go to, like hatred is like

1328
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: if we could harness the energy of hatred, it's an

1329
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: inexhaustible fuel because you know how fucking bothered you have

1330
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: to be and how much motivation you have to have

1331
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: to leave your house so you can go threaten a

1332
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 2: hate crime on gay people at a Britney Spirits concert

1333
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 2: that I'm sure your assay buy a ticket to come.

1334
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: It's like them people that get up and threaten people

1335
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: at a bortion clan. It's like what is in you?

1336
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: I can't even get up and go to the gym

1337
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 2: every morning?

1338
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 3: Come on?

1339
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Man? Let me borrow some of that

1340
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 2: and use it for something positive, Like I'm gonna get

1341
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 2: up and walk around the block. I'm just sitting on

1342
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 2: my couch eating chips, and this motherfucker's like up tying

1343
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: to make my second trip to the bortion clank today.

1344
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: Come on, somebody might accidentally go in there. And make

1345
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 2: a decision to make their life better. I don't want

1346
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: that good, agreed. This motherfucker had to find out when

1347
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: when the concert was happening, Like you got a Google

1348
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 2: alert for all the what you think the gay concerts are? Oh,

1349
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj is coming to town. Time to go out there,

1350
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: give it to these gays. Police in the UK have

1351
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,919
Speaker 2: arrested the suspect they claim harassed people leaving the Brightonton

1352
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 2: Pride over the weekend, including the mark making threats to

1353
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: stab ungodly homosexuals the godly ones. Your guys are fine.

1354
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 2: More than three hundred thousand people attended Brighton's annual LGBTQ

1355
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: celebration yesterday, with at least fifty seven thousand sticking around

1356
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: for Britney Spears closing night concert. For crowds in underground

1357
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: making their way home were greeted with a terrifying display

1358
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: of homophobia. Oh great, it's a brother, Guardian reports. Benjamin

1359
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 2: Butterworth told Pink News.

1360
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 4: Oh, I'd have got that wrong out of butterworks out

1361
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 4: about like white right now, that's the reporter's name.

1362
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh okay, told Pink News. Then he started shouting homophobic,

1363
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: phobic abuse. Yo that gay people are pedophiles on godly freaks,

1364
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: failures to their parents. Then he said he was going

1365
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: to pull a blade out and stab every gay person

1366
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: on the train. Great Butterworth, who filled the incident, says

1367
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: the train went silent when the man got on and

1368
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: started shouting gay people deserve to be killed and that

1369
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: he would stab us. He was constantly stabbing, shouting batty man,

1370
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 2: bat man, and puff in the faces of people. The

1371
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: whole thing was unprovoked, So that's like you're making if

1372
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: they wasn't. This ship scared the fun out of me

1373
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: because like it reminds me of that the people getting

1374
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,959
Speaker 2: stabbed on, like like black women that got uh stabbed

1375
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: just just recently, and and it was an Oakland Verry

1376
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 2: transport bart and then the stabbing at Portland where white

1377
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 2: dudes that got killed. But it started because he targeted

1378
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 2: black women. And you here's somebody doing the shit to

1379
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,959
Speaker 2: gay people, you know, And he might have had a knife.

1380
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 3: They don't know, right, you.

1381
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: Guys handby in his bag. I mean, he might just

1382
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: start stabbing people. What the fuck y'all gonna do? A

1383
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 2: bitch of people start shouting back at the man. The

1384
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: clip pastors can be heard telling the man you're an embarrassment.

1385
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: Police were notified and suspect was arrested at Clapham Junction Station.

1386
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: Police are still looking for three men who as Solitude

1387
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: gay men in Brighton in June. While making anti gay comments,

1388
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: Wane Vic sustain a fractured john and laceratition into his

1389
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: face with aquid stitches. Eoeuh yeah, so I can't go

1390
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 2: to a concert while gay apparently apparently. And if gay

1391
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: people can't go see Britney hears, then she going out

1392
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:41,799
Speaker 2: of business.

1393
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 3: So come on because she's Britney bitch.

1394
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 2: Right what y'all doing? Gay student was giving fifty thousand

1395
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 2: dollars go fund me to study at Georgetown University after

1396
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: parents threw him out. Wow, horrible story that get thrown

1397
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: out of your parents' house. Glad to see people are

1398
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 2: helping student who was forced to leave his home after

1399
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 2: his parents found out he was gay is going to

1400
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: college at Their crowdfunding campaign raised twenty thousand dollars to

1401
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: pay for his fees. Seth O in eighteen had a

1402
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: four point one six GPA and acceptance letter from Georgetown University,

1403
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: but his financial aid package was depending on the support

1404
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: of his family, who had cast him out over his sexuality. Man,

1405
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: it's like that first episode of Pose. He told NBC

1406
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 2: that when he received a letter, he was devastated. I

1407
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 2: started a crowd because I realized there was no way

1408
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 2: I could go to college. Georgetown was my only option

1409
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: because I had already denied my other acceptances. He was

1410
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: left with the twenty thousand dollars deficit, which he knew

1411
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: he couldn't pay off, but a go fund me paid

1412
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 2: set up by owens biology teacher Jane Martin Shout out

1413
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: to her, has now raised more than fifty thousand to

1414
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 2: go towards his first year fees. Owens money problem started

1415
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: when he was thrown out of his family home by

1416
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: Southern Baptist check pears at the discovery was gay when

1417
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 2: they found a photograph on his phone. He was sent

1418
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 2: to a Christian counselor who moved a move which Owen

1419
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: believes was intended to turn him straight. You know that

1420
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: we're still doing that in twenty eighteen, Yes we are.

1421
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: When the counselor, Owens said he felt it was definitely

1422
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 2: gay conversion therapy and he was forced to perform stereotypical

1423
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: masculine task. After returning from therapy unchanged and find himself

1424
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: more and more at odds with his parents beliefs, Owen

1425
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: decided to move out in the middle of his senior year.

1426
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 2: They talked very negatively about the LGBTQ plus community. They

1427
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 2: said that gay people would not serve in the church.

1428
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: Then they were talking about transgender people as though they

1429
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: weren't human, and that really bothered me. Right, and these

1430
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 2: are your parents, the people that are supposed to love

1431
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 2: you unconditionally. But I guess that part of the Bible

1432
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: is not It must be in the back right.

1433
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 4: And that goes back to what I say, as you

1434
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,799
Speaker 4: get older, your definition of family changes.

1435
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: The worst part was I was packing my bag, I

1436
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: was walking out the door. I was hoping that my

1437
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: mom was standing away. I was hoping that she would say,

1438
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: I love my childhood, I love my religion. Just a

1439
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: few weeks after moving out of that from the house

1440
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 2: and while sleeping on her friends sover, he received his

1441
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,919
Speaker 2: ad package and really realized that college dream was in jeopardy.

1442
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: With the help of Martin, who was also gay, Owen

1443
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: shout out to shut out to Jane Martin dogg like

1444
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: for real, like for Billy being like, hold up, We're

1445
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: gonna do something about this baby, you know what I mean,

1446
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: especially being at you like they always say, what is it?

1447
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: It gets better? That's the phrase that we tell gay

1448
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: children that LGBTQ children. So it's like, don't hurt yourself,

1449
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 2: don't kill yourself, it gets better. We know, y'all suicide

1450
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 2: rate is higher. But here's some actual proof, you know.

1451
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 2: He Owen has now managed to raise enough money to

1452
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 2: go to Georgetown the pair. The pair are hoping that

1453
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,879
Speaker 2: if the university does end up readjusting Owens financial aid package,

1454
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: the plan that uses the donations to create a scholarship

1455
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 2: fund for other teams facing the situation, similar.

1456
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: To Owens Come On Scholarship fund.

1457
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: The spokesperson from Georgetown said the university admits and enrolled

1458
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: students without regard to their financial circumstances, and it's committed

1459
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,520
Speaker 2: to meeting to demonstrated financial need of eligible students. Oh

1460
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: so yeah, that's the Uh. But sad that you know

1461
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 2: his parents would do something like that. See what else? Uh?

1462
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: You got me in My feelings, Big Freda says she

1463
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 2: had to reach out to Drake for In My Feelings

1464
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: video appears after Nights for what snug Oh now uh,

1465
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: you guys may know Big Fredia is. I think it's

1466
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: Fredia is the like New Orleans bounce like artist that

1467
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 2: is like iconic. She's information. You hear her voice. She

1468
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: wasn't in the video for that. I don't think. I don't.

1469
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: And then Drake used a voice to Stuart that don't

1470
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 2: representing hold on, that's her. So, you know, artists, when

1471
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: they want to use that New Orleans bounce sound, they

1472
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 2: will use her voice and whatnot. And but sometimes in

1473
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: the videos and the imagery they're not using her for that,

1474
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: you know. And so and I don't know what Big

1475
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 2: Free to how she identifies. I know, I think she

1476
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: prefers she and her pronouns, but I don't know if

1477
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 2: she's trains or not. I guess gender queer might be

1478
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: the best way to describe her anyway. Point being, artists

1479
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 2: will use like that image. But then when it comes

1480
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 2: time to do like some some paperwork, you know, and

1481
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: I and I mean more than just money, because maybe

1482
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 2: she got paid for the sample. I'm not saying she didn't.

1483
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 2: But when it comes to like yo, come in my

1484
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 2: video and being here with me as a sign of

1485
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: like not not just inclusion, but like a sign of like,

1486
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 2: uh uh, what do you call it? They were colleagues

1487
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: in this industry together, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1488
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 2: just I would do this if I use Cardi B's

1489
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 2: voice to open my song, like, oh, it's cool. Cardy

1490
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: got a little cameo before the song started. You know,

1491
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't remember if it was Drake on the stage,

1492
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 2: but I know there's a video Lawrence Hill rapping over

1493
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 2: the Knights for what Beat and whatnot. So you know,

1494
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 2: those moments are cool. If Lawrence Hill was in the video,

1495
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 2: we'd all be like, oh, what a cool moment. You know.

1496
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: They must have waited for days for her to show up,

1497
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 2: but they got it done. That's what's important. And so

1498
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 2: to see that, you know, big Fridia had to basically

1499
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 2: beg for to be in Drake's next video in My Feelings,

1500
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: and Drake didn't reach out to her. She had to

1501
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 2: reach out to Drake. It just it just keeps. It

1502
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 2: speaks a lot, it speaks volumes. She maintained that there

1503
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: was no bad blood between the two, especially since he

1504
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: made good on the Knights for what controversy. Frida said

1505
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 2: the Canadian Canada native, made up for leaving her out

1506
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 2: the video, which featured her vocals, when he asked her

1507
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 2: to pull up for a cameo in My Feelings. Despite

1508
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: the fact she had to initiate the offer, she said,

1509
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: it was still a step in the right direction. Yeah, well,

1510
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 2: shit is low as like, what the fucker to say?

1511
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 2: Fuck him? Like, Actually he could have said no, because

1512
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: I probably she probably expected him to say no, right,

1513
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 2: I decided to hit him up myself. Why you ain't

1514
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 2: let me know you in New Orleans? He was like,

1515
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: I just got here. Why don't you come through with

1516
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 2: shoot the video tonight? I want you to get a

1517
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 2: few cameos. So I did that, he said, uh, she said,

1518
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 2: as she clarified the fact that there was no apology

1519
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 2: for the initial snub. I guess he felt like you

1520
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 2: didn't make the nights for what. But that's why I

1521
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 2: made sure I respond as soon as you hit me up,

1522
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 2: so that you could be in My Feelings in the

1523
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 2: In My Feelings video, She said. It's definitely a step

1524
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: in the right duration. I think that other artists out

1525
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 2: there should feel the same way, no matter what your

1526
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: background is, no matter if you're a gay artist. Uh,

1527
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: that we could be able to be there just like

1528
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: anybody else. Yeah. So, I mean it's this feels like

1529
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 2: fucking with black people. It's like it's better than nothing.

1530
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it doesn't seem that great, but

1531
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: I guess it could be like what Travis Scott did.

1532
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 2: He's facing backlash after removing the trans model off the

1533
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: upcoming album cover that he has.

1534
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 3: Oh off, yep, we made that decision.

1535
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 2: He has an album called Astro World coming out. TMZ

1536
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: caught up with the model Amanda Lapour and asked why

1537
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 2: she thought she was removed from the album She was,

1538
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 2: finally saying her looks upstaged to other models but album artists.

1539
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: Les Chappelle didn't have an answer. Far from lapeter sentiments,

1540
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 2: his response was, Amanda just upstaged everyone, and that she

1541
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 2: knows the t R. Chapelle says he wants it to

1542
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 2: be known that Lapour being dropped from the cover had

1543
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 2: nothing to do with Hayden. However, Scott and Laport didn't

1544
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: have much detailing the matter of the incident. Now has

1545
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 2: fans believe in the rapper is transphobic? Yeah, I don't,

1546
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean it's I'm looking at the

1547
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: album cover with and without her, and like the fucking

1548
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 2: album is full of just people upstaging, Like like all

1549
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: the women are here I'm putting on screen, Like all

1550
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 2: the people on the cover are like naked or in

1551
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 2: boxes or like you know what I mean. Like the

1552
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,799
Speaker 2: whole point seems to be they're all posing like different ways.

1553
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 2: The whole point seems to be. Look at how over

1554
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: the top every woman in this picture is you see it?

1555
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yeah, Like why and she's the one circle

1556
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 2: they took her out? Why specifically would you need to

1557
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: take her out compared to everybody else in this covert difference?

1558
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 2: Y'are a woman in a fucking box with no clothes.

1559
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 3: Lay down to me?

1560
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: All right, all right, I don't know what you're supposed

1561
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 2: to say do with that.

1562
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 3: I mean weird as far as like the picture itself

1563
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 3: like it.

1564
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: As I'm saying, I don't know what we're supposed to

1565
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: do with his reasoning of she's had to come marcause

1566
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: she was upstaging everybody. I don't know what that means.

1567
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 2: All right? H So we uh about you know what,

1568
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't get any better? What about? Oh wait, here's one.

1569
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: Here's one that's kind of good. It's kind of good.

1570
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 2: Sarah Cunningham, my mother from Oklahoma, wrote on Facebook last week,

1571
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: if you need a mom to tend your same sex

1572
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 2: marriage wedding because your biological mom won't won't call me,

1573
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: I'm there. When she first wrote the post, she didn't

1574
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: imagine how far her offer would go, but now she's

1575
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,480
Speaker 2: gone viral as a stand in mom. Conaheam tell CBS

1576
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: that she has been involved in the LGBTQ community for years.

1577
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: One of her sons, Parker, is gay, and when he

1578
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: was twenty one years old, he told her mom, I

1579
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 2: met someone and I need you to be okay with it.

1580
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 2: Cunnahead recalled. She admits that at first it was hard

1581
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 2: for her to say to be quote unquote okay with it.

1582
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm a woman of faith. We live in a conservative town.

1583
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: Come in said, it sounds it sounds bad to say it,

1584
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 2: but I felt like I had to choose to my

1585
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: child and faith. I was under this impression that it

1586
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: was the ultimate defense. I didn't know where to look

1587
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: for resources. At first I thought it was only I

1588
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: was the only mom in Oklahoma with a gay head.

1589
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: So she turned to a private Facebook group for moms

1590
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: going through the same thing. She said it completely changed

1591
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 2: her life. The mother went from not knowing how to

1592
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 2: reconcile with her faith to write a book to help

1593
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: others struggling to accept their LGBTQ children. How We Sleep

1594
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 2: at Night a mother's memoir. In twenty fourteen, she and

1595
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 2: her husband attended a prior parade in that state. We

1596
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: stood with our son at a pride parade at Oklahoma City.

1597
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: It was my first interaction with the community that I

1598
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: was so alienated from by my own ignorance and my

1599
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: own fear, and I realized that it was a beautiful community.

1600
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: She went back to the parade at twenty fifteen, and

1601
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 2: this time made her own button. Nowhere free mom hugs

1602
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: are being read. Anyone who made eye contact with me,

1603
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 2: I say, can I offer you a free hug mom

1604
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: hug of high five? And I went home with glitter

1605
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 2: all over me. It wasn't all It wasn't all glitter

1606
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 2: and hugs. At the pri parade, she said, members of

1607
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: the LGBTQ community told her about the rejection and their

1608
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 2: families that they suffer. I heard hard stories that would

1609
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: haunt me now. Cunningham runs her own Facebook group from

1610
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: Mother's Aspire by her Pride Parade parents, the free mom

1611
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: Hugs page, other offers other moms, advice and hopes to

1612
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 2: educate parents on the LGBTQ community. She said over three

1613
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: thousand people have joined and help spread her movement of

1614
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 2: attending pride festivals at offering mom hugs. Cunningham also became

1615
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 2: ordained so she can offer the officiate LGBTQ weddings. Many

1616
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: of the weddings I officiate, I'll say how are you,

1617
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 2: how are your parents and are they accepted? And they say, well,

1618
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm I'll invite them or not,

1619
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: and they don't even knowledge our relationship, Cunnheam says. She

1620
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 2: said in incidents like this it prompted her to write

1621
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 2: the now viral posts about being a standing in mom

1622
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 2: and weddings. She is now officiated twelve Saint Sex weddings

1623
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 2: so far, she said, and since posting her official offer

1624
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: to attend weddings as a mom, her inbox has been flooded.

1625
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: There's so many. I don't mean to sound boastful, but

1626
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: I haven't seen haven't even been able to address my

1627
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: private messages. Yet there's one hundred and thirty in my

1628
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 2: inbox for anyone that's serious about her to their wedding.

1629
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 2: Cunninghall say, I'll be a biggest fan and even bring

1630
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: the bubbles. Cunning Ham and said the members of her

1631
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: Free Mom Hugs organization visit church's colleges, hospitals. We're helping

1632
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: in any area we can. As for fathers, cut of

1633
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 2: Hell said, there are more. They are more than welcome

1634
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: in the Free Mom Hugs group. When we have dash

1635
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 2: walk with us in the proparades, we have kids going

1636
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: over the barricades to get hugs from these das. We

1637
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: encourage dass brands to advocate to walk with us. Yeah,

1638
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure men are even more scarce in that because

1639
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 2: you know straight, especially since that men are so definitely homophobic,

1640
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 2: they're just I mean, people always go like homophobia isn't fear,

1641
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: but people fear what they don't understand, and people hate

1642
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 2: what they fear. So I think even if you're violent

1643
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 2: towards or threatening towards somebody for being gay, or you're

1644
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 2: like hood, don't touch me, you still homophobic dog, And

1645
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 2: you know, so it's still that thing where it's like

1646
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: that energy you know, as much as people kind of

1647
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 2: down mail energy, there's some positive to that male energy too,

1648
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 2: and having that in a a space where it's pretty

1649
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 2: much like men have courting themselves off from it, you know,

1650
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 2: like that space, I can see why people would be like,

1651
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hop over this barricade and hug this this

1652
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: straight man who's not sitting here judging me or talking

1653
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 2: down to me or scared of me or any of

1654
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 2: that ship, you know, like I can see that. So

1655
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 2: but yeah, anyway, that's let's that's that's gonna get We

1656
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 2: need to get out of that because.

1657
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 3: Because the next story be bad, we were gonna leave.

1658
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna leave it right there.

1659
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, cuss enough, all right, let's see I'll do next. Uh,

1660
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: let's skip fucking with black people today, and goes to

1661
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: guest the race. Let's do it all right, where's my

1662
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 2: guest the race music? Uh? Now that I pulled up

1663
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 2: nice for what? Mm?

1664
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,879
Speaker 3: Now that it's time for some guests the race.

1665
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 2: That's right, it's guess the race time. Now that it

1666
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: is time for.

1667
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 3: Some guests the race.

1668
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 4: That's right, guess the race time. But that's right, it's

1669
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 4: time for guess the race.

1670
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 2: Then I want to gage. You'll go across all the

1671
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 2: podcasts saying we need to play. Dude, it's all over

1672
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 2: globe and we asked our contests today. Karen as the

1673
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 2: chat to guess the horace, saying everybody plays along and

1674
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 2: it all horaces. Let's get it to the game, all right.

1675
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: Boy died at the mistake and his dad's myth for

1676
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: breakfast cereal. Oh oh, what does myth even look like cyril?

1677
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 3: I don't know how how how was the baby?

1678
01:26:55,680 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 2: Don't it look like crystals? I don't know why it

1679
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: was playing that music. I didn't tell it to do that.

1680
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 3: Mind like some sugary cereal to the baby.

1681
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: An eight year old boy in Indiana who died after

1682
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: reportedly mistaking his dad's metha and fantamine for breakfast cereal

1683
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 2: had more than eight one hundred and eighty times a

1684
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 2: lethal amount of the drug.

1685
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 3: Good God, did the baby milkone it do?

1686
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 4: Uh?

1687
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 2: Curtis called in the third died June twenty first at

1688
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 2: the overdose. Oh wait, can I just play the audio

1689
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:26,919
Speaker 2: to let's see.

1690
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 4: Non get help for his young son after the boy

1691
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 4: accidentally ingested crystal method happened in Jackson County near the

1692
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 4: Kentucky border.

1693
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: This is our sum this is accurate. What is I

1694
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 2: don't get it? Switched the commercial in the middle of

1695
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 2: the news article. This is some new ship. You know what.

1696
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: That's slick.

1697
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 4: Mm hm.

1698
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 2: I'll see you having the.

1699
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 3: Post about to say if it's off of YouTube? YouTube

1700
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 3: would do that?

1701
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 2: Boolls? Just having the post it unstepped that game up.

1702
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: I'll see you with the mid roll. But back to

1703
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 2: the back to the article, please, I mean now, I

1704
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: don't want to play. Of course, commercials load. The actual

1705
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 2: article never loads some time. Goddamn, Like, nope, this's wrong

1706
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 2: with America. Okay, I'll just read it. I guess unless

1707
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: if a casey don't never pop back up. So, yeah,

1708
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: you had one hundred and eighty times the legal I

1709
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: mean the lethal amount. He died at the overdoseing no

1710
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: myth at the home of his father, Curtis Gilbert Gilbert Coleman,

1711
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 2: the forty one years old. He adjusted several grands of

1712
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 2: myth that were on a plate, thinking it was cereal.

1713
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: He just left his myth sitting out. Around ten am,

1714
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: the elder Coleman noticed his son sing ill that caler frame,

1715
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 2: came over and look at the child. So you knew

1716
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 2: it was myth because you didn't even call the police

1717
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 2: right away. When the woman suggests he called now on one,

1718
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 2: he allegedly ripped the phone out of her hand and said,

1719
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going back to prison. Yeah knew, Well now

1720
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: you're going back from murcer. Oh because he did?

1721
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 3: Okay?

1722
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1723
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 2: Like no, you just made it worse. Bro mm mmmm.

1724
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 2: He then grabbed a handgun from another room and threatened

1725
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: to kill himself, the woman and his son. What you

1726
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: called me over here, bro, I don't want these problems, okay,

1727
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 2: call mean. Then took his son and now you're really

1728
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 2: going to what the fuck? He took his son and

1729
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 2: his parents home, but fled when they two wanted to

1730
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: call now one one. Of course, what does he think?

1731
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen?

1732
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 4: Uh?

1733
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 2: You know what? I think we can just give some

1734
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: toddler na, it'll be all right, put some on it, right,

1735
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 2: And he could have called now one one. Probably got

1736
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: the kids's stomach pump and it's dead. The boy's dead now.

1737
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 2: He fled when they called now one one wanted to

1738
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: call nine one. All though the suspects parents called for help,

1739
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 2: the boy let it die. Police finally apprehended the elder

1740
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 2: Coleman on Thursday evening, charging with failure to register as

1741
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 2: a sex offender. Oh jesus, what what is happening with

1742
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 2: this story? Who's is this? A mad lib of crime

1743
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 2: which still from two thousand and six conviction on a

1744
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 2: Class D your sexual misconduct with a minor COVID has

1745
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 2: since been charged with neglect of a dependent causing death,

1746
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 2: pointing the firearm, and theft. On Friday, requested a bar

1747
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 2: reduction so he could spend time at home with his

1748
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 2: parents while awaiting trial. Yeah, that's just what they need.

1749
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: But Jackson County law enforcement officials planning to fight to

1750
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: keep him behind bars. A judge was to decide by

1751
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 2: closing business Friday at the bar b lord.

1752
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 3: No don't know, I'm don't talk.

1753
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 4: No.

1754
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 2: He faces twenty to forty years in prison of convicted

1755
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 2: when he goes to trial December fourth. According to the

1756
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 2: Associated Press, guess the race of Curtis Coleman.

1757
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 3: The third white?

1758
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 2: All right, Karen's going with white. Let me check the

1759
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 2: chat room and see what they believe. Meth os, They're

1760
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 2: great white frosted white flakes. Daddy, I'm getting high on

1761
01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 2: these fruit loops, white, honey, smack smack white. I'm coul

1762
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 2: cool for cocaine puffs, white, meth jack's white, snap crack

1763
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 2: and pop of my league serial killer white. Ah white.

1764
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 2: This is just too white, white and I'm the one

1765
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: who snaps crackers and pops white. The correct answer is white.

1766
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, because like you said, he at any time,

1767
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 4: like you said, the baby's stomach could have been pumped.

1768
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 3: But you fucked around.

1769
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 4: And you're gonna threaten the people that was like, we're

1770
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 4: trying to set your child's life.

1771
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 2: Like the fact your kid can even still be around

1772
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 2: you as a sexual predator that you did not register

1773
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 2: ass Like what the fuck, homeboy? You were just a

1774
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 2: whole gaggle of problems. All right, let's go to the

1775
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 2: next Let's see here. He drove right through the We

1776
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 2: rode right through the damn front door.

1777
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 3: Okay.

1778
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 2: An angry Verizon customer is accused of a crash bill.

1779
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 2: Raleigh police say a seventy four year old man drove

1780
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 2: a car into the front of a Verizon store in

1781
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 2: Raleigh on Thursday evening after he up here apparently became

1782
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 2: upset that his phone was not working and the store

1783
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 2: was closed. Oh, he said, you know what, I'm gonna

1784
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 2: get a connection with this door. Yes, okay, I'll tell

1785
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:40,839
Speaker 2: you what. Got all the signals?

1786
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 3: He was like, can you hear me now?

1787
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 2: My gas pedal got all a faux bars? Okay right.

1788
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 2: Charles Michael Hagger was charged with six kinds of assault

1789
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,839
Speaker 2: with a dangerous weapon and damage to property after the incident.

1790
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 2: At eight thirty five pm Thursday on North Hills Shopping Center,

1791
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 2: a man who called nine one one said he was

1792
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 2: saw a driver behind the wheel of a Volkswagon plowing

1793
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 2: to the store. He drove right through the damn front door.

1794
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 2: The caller said, there is no front door, all the

1795
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 2: glass shutter. It's amazing. I never seen anything like it.

1796
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 2: I know that call.

1797
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 4: They was like, what, no, you understand, Like, yeah, yeah,

1798
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 4: he read right through the through the whole door.

1799
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 2: The caller said the store had closed at apm. The

1800
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 2: man was visibly upset when he couldn't enter. He said,

1801
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 2: my damn phone's not working. I need to help open

1802
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 2: this damn door. The caller said, uh, six Rison employees

1803
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 2: were in the store at the time. Oh, no, wonder

1804
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 2: they was probably there trying to ignorm and shit, right,

1805
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 2: They closing the store up right the store server closed.

1806
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 2: I see you right there. Fix my fucking phone. No, sir,

1807
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 2: the hours are till eight p eight. Once the door's closed,

1808
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 2: we can't help you. Oh the door about to be.

1809
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 3: Over all the doors in the windows will be open.

1810
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,719
Speaker 2: You gonna wish I got some help. In thirty seconds,

1811
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 2: I was.

1812
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 3: About to get all the four g's.

1813
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 2: You tell them like artist, I'll be back. He drove

1814
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 2: into that shit. No one was injured, The nine one

1815
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 2: caller said. The driver back to halfway out the store,

1816
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 2: got out the vehicle and stood in the parking lot.

1817
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 2: Keep a safe dis is from the dispatcher told the caller.

1818
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Hagar was transported to White County Jail is. He's been

1819
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 2: held on seven thousand, five hundred dollars bond for misdemeanor charges.

1820
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 2: According to court documents, mister Mano, I guess it's not

1821
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 2: enough dampage for failing me. I don't know. He was

1822
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 2: ordered to have no contact with the six employees who

1823
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:26,759
Speaker 2: is side the store.

1824
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 3: He could have killed them if any of them would

1825
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 3: have been.

1826
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 2: At that door, and he is not allowed to return

1827
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 2: to the business. Guest the race of uh we Else

1828
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 2: Charles Hagger the third or no, Charles Michael Hager.

1829
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 3: That's a white man.

1830
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 2: All right, Let's check the chat room and see what

1831
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 2: they believe his race is. May I speak to a

1832
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 2: manager White? I bet y'all heard that crash? White? How

1833
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 2: dare you not open when I pull up? White? Can

1834
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 2: you hear me? Now? White?

1835
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 4: Well?

1836
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, clap hands between them, white knight rider. The correct

1837
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 2: answer is he was white. All right, just go to

1838
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 2: the bonus round.

1839
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 4: I'm surprised. They was like, you got to cancel your

1840
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 4: Varizon service? Mm hmm, what you mean, you know, because

1841
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 4: you can't go back to the store. I was I'm surprised.

1842
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 3: They were like, sir, you can't have no no Verizon.

1843
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 2: You gotta pay the biggest parties. You gotta pay that fee.

1844
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 2: Come on, sir, Eli cancelation is an extra seventeen thousand

1845
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 2: dollars that's actually bored in the door. Right, thank you?

1846
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:47,799
Speaker 2: Double up and the rast double up, saying the race,

1847
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 2: that's right, double the points, double the race, and the

1848
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 2: bonus round the guest the race so far caring it's

1849
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,759
Speaker 2: two for two, but can she go three for three?

1850
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 2: We'll see you're getting nervous in the bumps.

1851
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 3: Round m into it.

1852
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's see. Uh how about.

1853
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 4: Uh?

1854
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 2: How about this one? No wait, I went to the

1855
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 2: wrong one. Yeah yeah, let's stick with this one. A

1856
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:27,600
Speaker 2: man was found naked in McDonald's women's restroom during jumping jacks?

1857
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 3: What was he on? That same if? That kid was on?

1858
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 2: A Nashville man was arrested after he was found naked

1859
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: at McDonald's restroom and then a day later sniffing paint

1860
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 2: fumes at a hardware store on that same drug. Brodie Tyler, Young,

1861
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 2: Brodie Brodie. It's charged with possession of vapors, trespassing, and

1862
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 2: publican decency. Oh so this is boden.

1863
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 4: This is not one twenty four hour McDonald's one to

1864
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 4: McDonalds that closed down open.

1865
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 3: It was like, uh, do y'all hear that? What is

1866
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 3: that for? Happened?

1867
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 4: Um? Yeah, sir, the's somebody in the bathroom door jumping

1868
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 4: jack one two three?

1869
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 3: I know they walk they walked in Suilan? What what? What?

1870
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 3: What is that noise?

1871
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 2: Isn't that dor of jumping jacks like Pooky and New

1872
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 2: Jack City and ship I know, let's get them teed

1873
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:21,799
Speaker 2: that swinging gold one and two and three and four.

1874
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 3: And you know that we're in quiet. Either was breathing

1875
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 3: a hard.

1876
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:32,839
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Damn must lady o chief and even oppressed.

1877
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 5: That was to meaning of b A t o as

1878
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 5: meaning this word, without no doubt means nobody wanted to

1879
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 5: beat that one. You down and out Now what you established.

1880
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 5: They got a lot of money. Everybody want to be

1881
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,919
Speaker 5: your buddy and honey like tall buildings that cost.

1882
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 2: Constrap your feeling, you feel you looking, save you.

1883
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 5: But this is the season of catching the vaper that

1884
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 5: since I got time, would have going to do. It's

1885
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 5: tell your harvest rereadit you out the.

1886
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 3: Vapors blue and shit all the vapors mm hmm.

1887
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: Head reportedly been there all day. Uh, mister Young was

1888
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 2: a radic doing jumping Jackson hitting a wall. Young had

1889
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 2: been told to stay away from the business. Officers found

1890
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 2: Young again the following day. Behind the count of a

1891
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,720
Speaker 2: customer service desk at low store. Young had gone to

1892
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 2: the paint paint section and with spray painting to spray

1893
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 2: and paint into a gatorade bottle and huffing the paint.

1894
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they said. The gatoray bottle at him spelled

1895
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 2: the spray paint. Guess the race of Brodie Tyler.

1896
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 3: Y'all, Oh, Brody is is du du bro white?

1897
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 2: All right, let me check the chat room. We don't

1898
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 2: have much time, dude. These edibles kicked in White, Dude,

1899
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 2: these editbles kicked in bro White, white man stressing Calvin

1900
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 2: out at work, way out, white way, White jumping jack flash.

1901
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:53,879
Speaker 2: It's gas gas gas black. I'll mean white. Can't pronounce

1902
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:59,799
Speaker 2: uh shavann, but we cannot pronounce ghetto names. White Brodie

1903
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 2: lost his trust fund now white jumping jack flash or

1904
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 2: white just a good old boy, never meaning no harm. White.

1905
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 2: The correct answer is white. I'm going to the next

1906
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 2: section and bringing everybody over and I'll show you his

1907
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 2: picture when we get over there, guys, But you guys

1908
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 2: all got it correct. He was a white man, as

1909
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 2: evidenced bout his behavior. Hold on, let me go to

1910
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 2: the next session. Okay, I'll play the clapping sounds. Yeah,

1911
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: Brodie was such a layup. Are there any black Brodies?

1912
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. It might be I've just never heard

1913
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 3: the one.

1914
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like black Brodie is pretty rare. That's

1915
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,879
Speaker 2: about as rare as a white leoid, you know, correct,

1916
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 2: Like a black Brodie. I don't think. I mean, even

1917
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 2: on the Internet, I don't think I know black Brody.

1918
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 2: You know how I can find all the black Brodies

1919
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 2: in the world. All I gotta do is go on

1920
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Speaker 2: the Twitter and say nobody names no black people are

1921
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Speaker 2: named Brody, and every nigga Dame Brody will come in

1922
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 2: my mentioning like, actually I know someone named Brody and

1923
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Speaker 2: he's black. Rod, your joke is I need to actually

1924
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Speaker 2: take it literally, because that's what we do on Twitter.

1925
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 2: We take your jokes literally and then we we act

1926
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Speaker 2: as if you meant them so that we can act special. Actually, Rod,

1927
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 2: some black men are into into being racist. That that's

1928
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Speaker 2: one of the things we're into. Like, it don't matter

1929
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Speaker 2: what you say. Nobody puts okre in the cotton candy.

1930
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Speaker 2: Actually my parents put okra in the cotton candy. Okay,

1931
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Speaker 2: I'm on Twitter to ruin your time. Uh. Anyway, that's

1932
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Speaker 2: Brodie right there.

1933
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Speaker 3: Brody did that ship.

1934
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Speaker 2: Yeah whatever they say, he did, he did it.

1935
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did all of it, all right.

1936
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Speaker 2: Uh, let's get into the last thing. Sore Ratchett, a

1937
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 2: man killed his partner with a vacuum and a sword

1938
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 2: to stop her nagging. In quotes, Yeah, we always leave

1939
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Speaker 2: it up to the surviving and kill her. Dude to

1940
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 2: be like, hey, tell us what happened here. A Melbourne

1941
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Speaker 2: man has admitted to killing his partner in an ice

1942
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 2: fuelled rage to stop her nagging him about his drug use.

1943
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:46,879
Speaker 2: When Lena Young became angry at her boyfriend for injecting

1944
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 2: ice fu, Tang told her to shut up, and when

1945
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 2: she didn't, he picked up a metal vacuum pole the

1946
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 2: court herritane whacked her several times about the face ahead

1947
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 2: until she stopped moving. He kept hitting her till she

1948
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 2: didn't hear he didn't hear say anything anymore. The fifty

1949
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Speaker 2: year old then drove a seventy three centiment a sorted

1950
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Speaker 2: to the victim's face, before changing his clothes and fleeing

1951
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Speaker 2: the scene. As a mother, too lay dead on a

1952
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Speaker 2: mattress at the say Alvin house they've been squatting in,

1953
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:18,759
Speaker 2: Tag tried to withdraw money from her account. Her body

1954
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Speaker 2: wasn't discovered until September twenty seventeen, three days after she died.

1955
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Speaker 2: Tag's defense claims the killer was angry and his drug

1956
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Speaker 2: use was to blame. Nigga. That's a lot. That's a

1957
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Speaker 2: lot to put on some drugs because a lot of

1958
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 2: people do drugs and they don't do this, they don't.

1959
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Speaker 2: But Justice Leslie Taylor rejected the submission. He well understood

1960
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Speaker 2: the effects that ice had on him, and he knew

1961
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Speaker 2: that he lost control. Yeah, because he fleet too. It's aggravating,

1962
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Speaker 2: is not merely explanatory, and it's not mitigating. Yeah. Also,

1963
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Speaker 2: he made sure she was dead so he would have

1964
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 2: the version of events he wanted to tell the forty

1965
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Speaker 2: four year old victim. Sons provided victim impact statements to

1966
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Speaker 2: the court describing how desperately they missed the mom At

1967
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Speaker 2: the time of them, Tang was on bell for threatening

1968
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 2: to kill ms Hun's previous partner with the sever swords,

1969
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 2: so he threatened to kill her ex he read from

1970
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Speaker 2: police when spotted and Richmond two weeks later when the

1971
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 2: rest of he told the textives he accidentally killed his

1972
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 2: wife send him under to jail. He's also been diagnosed

1973
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 2: with HIV from his needle use and is profoundly remorseful.

1974
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Speaker 2: He played guilty the murder. He now awaits his sentence forever, forever, ever, forever, ever, forever.

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Speaker 2: All right, y'all, we'll be back tomorrow. Thank you so

1976
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Speaker 2: much for listening. We appreciate you guys out there in

1977
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Speaker 2: podcast land.

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Speaker 3: Until then, I love you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah,