1 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky and Joki, I'm 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. 3 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I said. 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: By Ross dress Venz police, Hey, boom, it is indeed, 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: I rosdres fales Hey. I was just looking through the 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: Facebook group ghosted by Rosdres Falaise and I found this 7 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: story that was written by Elizabeth, who writes, Okay, I'm 8 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: ready to tell my paranormal experience. I grew up in 9 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: La Now I live in the Midwest. Back in nineteen 10 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: ninety three ninety four, my paternal grandfather was entombed in 11 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: the basement level of one of the many malls of 12 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: Williams at Inglewood Cemetery. Ps. I decided that the shower 13 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: studio that I'm recording in right now is called my rosalium. Okay, anyway, 14 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: back to the story. Every two weeks or so, my 15 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: parents would put fresh flowers in the vase or vase 16 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: if your fancy attached to the plaque. It was so 17 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: creepy down there. They had a lobby for urns and 18 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: an elevator to go down the lower level. My mom 19 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: is a very religious Catholic woman. She would say her 20 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: prayers and recite the whole rosary every time she went. Me, 21 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: being a curious ten year old, I would wander around, 22 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: reading the names and looking at the trinkets and some 23 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: pictures people would leave behind. 24 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: As I was. 25 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: Walking down one of the hallways, I noticed a man 26 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: in a suit walking kind of in a brisk way. 27 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: I noticed he was swaying his arms back and forth, 28 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: which I found kind of odd. I found it really 29 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: odd that, to my knowledge, there was no one down there. 30 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: We never saw anyone when when we visited. Me being 31 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: a curious and a naive kid, I followed the man 32 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: made a right turn where he was walking and it 33 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: was a dead end, a freaking wall. Was there no 34 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: way he could have turned around and walked back, only 35 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: if he walked through the wall. Talk about dead end, 36 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: that is true. I was confused. Then I got scared 37 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: and ran back to my parents. I never went back 38 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: after that. Ooh, Elizabeth, that is creepy. A ghost walking 39 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: brisk with their arms going back and forth. Terrifying. Guys, 40 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm so excited about the conversation that I have on 41 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: today's episode. I am joined by Harvey Gien, who you 42 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: may know as Guillermont on what we Do in the Shadows, 43 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: which is a show that is on FX. It's had 44 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: two seasons and I love the show so much. It's 45 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: based on the movie What We Do in the Shadows 46 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, it's new characters, but I would 47 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: love if you've never seen the movie What We Do 48 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: in the Shadows, you should totally check it out because 49 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: I love it so much. It's funny. It's very mockumentary style, 50 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: and it's about vampires that live in a house together 51 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: as roommates and it's hilarious. So, you know, I don't 52 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: know Harvey. I have never met him, but we have 53 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: some mutual friends and I thought I would, you know, 54 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: just hit him up. And I was so honored that 55 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: he got back to me. And I think we had 56 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: a really good time and hopefully we'll become great friends 57 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: once we're all allowed to go out and make friends. So, 58 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: without further ado, Harvey agin on with the show. 59 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: Hello Harvey, how are you, Hiram? 60 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: Congratulations on the Emmy. 61 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I'm super excited. We're in really great 62 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: uh you know company, Like there was a great year 63 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: for comedy and I was actually surprised because honestly, there 64 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: was such you know, stiff competition. Then when they announced it, 65 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: I was kind of like whoa, Like I jumped out 66 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: of my seat. I was like, whoa. It was weird 67 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: to see the name of the show on the screen 68 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: when Leslie was announcing him, and she kind of went 69 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: I feel like she was done already because she announced 70 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: Marvels Maso and that won last year. So we're like, oh, 71 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: they always finished with the winner from last year because 72 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: and I think I called it quit. I was like, oh, well, 73 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: that's it, and then she quickly said, oh, and what 74 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: were doing in the Shadows? And I was like what 75 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: And I was like, huzzah. 76 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Well, seeing a spooky like a spooky comedy show getting 77 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: nominated for an Emmy unheard of sane, unheard of insane. 78 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: And also as a proud LATINX queer person that dreams 79 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: of being a vampire, I feel very seen by your 80 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: presence on television and thank you for being yet. 81 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: You know what, that's so like, that's really sweet. And 82 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: I had no idea that the importance of that demographic, 83 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: you know, because there isn't a lot of representation when 84 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: it comes to like queer, you know, LATINX in the 85 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: world of goth and darkness and creepiness and all of that, 86 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: which makes no sense because thirty percent of the buying 87 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: you know, power for anything that's creepy and scary and 88 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: thriller movies is Latin people. 89 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: We love that stuff. We love it. 90 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: We live for it. We live for a good urna 91 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: or like a good you know, like a good. 92 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: As did you? So, did you grow up pretty uh, 93 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: you know believing in that kind of stuff? 94 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like you know, there's always like I 95 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: grew up with like superstitions like and and traditions just 96 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: there were kind of a lot of them loosely based 97 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: off religious beliefs. You know, I grew up Catholic, so 98 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: there are certain things that you did, like if you 99 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: drove by a church, you you know, you you crossed 100 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: yourself with like you know, uh Lendon, when you when 101 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: you get on the freeway, you do the same you 102 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: do like a crucifix on your body, like you uh, 103 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: things like that where I never understood it because I 104 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: was like literal and I was like, what are we doing? 105 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: Every time you get on the freeway, you get in 106 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: the freeway, you have to do it to yourself and 107 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: your mom does it to you, which is like a blessing. 108 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: And I always thought, Wow, that's so cool. But then 109 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: I noticed that none of my friends did it. When 110 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: they're in their car going eighty five miles an hour 111 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: and their new you know car that their daddy bought them, 112 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, you're going really fast there, Shelley, 113 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: and they're like I was like, gee, that's really fascinat 114 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: you didn't even give them in DC on to yourself. 115 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: She was like, you got to do too that so damn, Shelley. 116 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, do you find that because I grew up 117 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: Catholic too, and I feel that because of that it 118 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I think that that religion, how do I say this? 119 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: It it's got it's got its supernatural tones to it, 120 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean it's very I believe it's very 121 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: at times, like kind of horror, Like there's there's a 122 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: couple of things that are real spooky that happened in 123 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: the Catholic Church. And I think that it causes you 124 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: to just naturally believe it if you're raised that way. 125 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: Do you feel that? I totally agree. I feel like 126 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: it's a thin line, isn't It's like a thin line 127 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: between I'm religious and Catholic, and I believe in supernatural powers, 128 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: and there's definitely witches and warlocks, and like, it's a 129 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: really thin line because if you believe one, you can 130 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: easily believe the other, which is by saying that, I 131 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: mean like if you believe there's a higher you know, God, 132 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: and like which I always consider myself to be not 133 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: religious but spiritual, which is like something that because I 134 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: grew up Catholic, but I don't practice, you know, still, 135 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: And I was just like, I still feel spiritual, which 136 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: is weird because I was raised Catholic, but I was 137 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: just like, I do believe that there is a greater 138 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and there the divine and whatnot, 139 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: and but it's weird to grow up Catholic and think that, Yeah, 140 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: it goes hand in hand if you believe in this, 141 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: you believe in the other and then sometimes intertwined, which 142 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: could be scary, which kind of I feel like has 143 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: happened to me a couple of times. 144 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: Ooh, let's hear it. Okay, So what is the first 145 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: paranormal thing that has happened to you? 146 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: The first thing that ever happened that was paranormal to 147 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: me was I was living with well, we were living 148 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: with my aunt and we were in Santa Anna, and 149 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: I was about four or five, and I was in 150 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: my room and we're just leaving there temporarily. I remember why. 151 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: I think we just moved in for like the summer, 152 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: because we're going to move to a different apartment, or 153 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: times were hard, like we were. I was poor, so 154 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 2: I probably would have just been told that. I was like, 155 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: we're moving apartments in a month, but we just needed 156 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: to move somewhere for the time being. And I was 157 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: living there, and I just the room that I was 158 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: staying and always had this cold, like weird like I'm 159 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: just sensitive to energy, and I've always been that way, 160 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: Like when I meet people, if I meet you right away, 161 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: I can just sense if I'm gonna like you or not, 162 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: or if I can sense that you're a good person, 163 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: which is weird because you can't make that. You can't 164 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: judge a book by its energy, but you can't. And 165 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: I will slow down, Shelley, Shelley, and I just remember 166 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: that in that room, I just always felt that it 167 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 2: was this cold, like even though it was summertime, I 168 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: need a blanket, and I was just like really cold 169 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: in there. And I was like, with the a season 170 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: even on, we can't afford a see like it's like 171 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 2: keep the windows, you know. 172 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that's why ghosts are the best for the sung 173 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: most are my best friends during the summer. 174 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: They helped me not sweat through my clothes. So I 175 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: was just laying in bed one day and the lights 176 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: were on, and so because I'm a scaredy cat, and 177 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: like the little nightlight, you know, but it glares up 178 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 2: you can see it reflecting up to where you're looking 179 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: up into the ceiling. And so I was looking at 180 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: the ceiling you can see the light. And then in 181 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: the corner of the room, something started moving and I 182 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: just thought, that's weird. What is that, Like a shadow 183 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: or something, And it was a shadow. But then the 184 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: shadow started crawling towards the center of the room, and 185 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: it had claws and it had two horns, and it 186 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: climbed like it was climbing backwards, but I could visually 187 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: just I could still see it today. It climbed all 188 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: the way to the center of the room, right where 189 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: my bed was, right on top of me, and it 190 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 2: just moved its head from left to right and right 191 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: to left and kept looking at me. But I couldn't 192 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: see its face. It was a shadow. It was all 193 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: a silhouette. I could see it. I could see that 194 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: it had a tail, and I see that it had claws, 195 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: and I saw that it had horns, and I was like, 196 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: that's that's the motherfucking devil. The devils in my room. 197 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: The devil went down to Harvey's room and looking for 198 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: assault to steal. And I to this day, I was like, 199 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: I remember freezing, like I just froze, and I was 200 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: just like I looked at it and it just it 201 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: was moving, and then I remember, Jess, I passed out. 202 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: I just remember, Yeah, I was so traumatized. I literally 203 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: remember my eyes rolling back to my like sockets. And 204 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: I came to and it was morning. 205 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: I have goosebumps right now. Wait, yeah, was this like 206 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: a sleep paralysis kind of a thing. 207 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: Did you feel like? I don't know. I don't think 208 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: I have to press because none of my past like 209 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: partners or lovers have told me, hey, you have to. 210 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: But I don't think it was that. And then to 211 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: this day, I don't know if it was just my 212 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: imagination playing tricks on me, and then I just fell 213 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: asleep to the idea of that, because I just remember 214 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: the fear. I just I steal when I think about it. 215 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: I remember the fear that I had looking at it 216 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: crawling like it was crawling, you know, upside down backwards. 217 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: I couldn't tell what was front what was back because 218 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: it was a shadow. And so I was like, wait, 219 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: is that in the outside of the house. How could 220 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: it be in the outside of the house that it's 221 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: a shadow and it's inside the shadow is being reflect like. 222 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: It didn't make sense. It just it don't make no sense. 223 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: And I didn't have time to put those pieces together. 224 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: I just passed out, and I remember, you know, when 225 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: I woke up in the morning, I convinced myself like, 226 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: oh that was that was like a dream, right, And 227 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: then I come this off over the years, and then 228 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: looking back, I was like, that wasn't a dream because 229 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: I remember such detail. You know, when you wake up 230 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: from a dream, you're like, well, you wake up in 231 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: the moment. Usually it's the other way around, when you 232 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: have a nightmare, you wake up, you wake up from 233 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: the nightmare. But this way it was opposite. I felt 234 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: if I fell asleep, I fell asleep to a horrible 235 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: visual and then just slept like a baby through the night, 236 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 2: and then the next morning I woke up. Now looking back, 237 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: I was like, that is so weird and fucked up 238 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: because I dis remember the fear. It was so scary 239 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 2: that I passed out. I literally just want my eyes. 240 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: I passed out and I came to the next morning 241 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: and it was like nothing. And I remember I did 242 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: not want to sleep in that room again. I did not. 243 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to sleep here, Like, well, 244 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: that's the room. I don't want to sleep here. And 245 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: I was like, well it's either that out of the 246 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: living room, like that's okay, And I slept in the 247 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: living room. We were only there for like another maybe 248 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: four days or something, but I didn't want to go 249 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: back in that room. And I just remember it was 250 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: like it was it traumatized me. I was so sensitive 251 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: to that. But also after that, I was just like, 252 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: is it my fault because I'm so sensitive to energy? 253 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: Like I welcomed it, you know, Like did I welcome 254 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: that energy because it's like it can see me, you know, 255 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: which I imagine his voice or its voice. I shouldn't put 256 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: a gender to it, but like its voice sounds like 257 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: that you. 258 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: Know right, well, did you bring it up to your 259 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: aunts or anybody? 260 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: I was too scared. I was too scared to bring 261 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: it up because also I want to be a rude 262 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 2: guest and say, hey, your house is fucking hunted. 263 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that demon in your room. It was 264 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: kind of a little disturbing. 265 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: These are great that my list. By the way, your 266 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: fucking room's ounted. And I'm also like, I'm six, and 267 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: there's this weird like, you know, maybe I don't know 268 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: this is true, but like at least with like you know, 269 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: Latinox culture, Like it's like you when you're a guest 270 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: at someone's house, even if you don't like the food 271 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: or you don't like the accommodations, you do not complain. 272 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: Is that think that like let the demon crawl on you. 273 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to be rude. 274 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: But do you feel like that's the same. Do you 275 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: feel like that? Like growing up, do you like if 276 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: you went to your aunt's house or your cousins were visiting, 277 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: like you gave up your bed, Like if your aunts 278 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: and stuff are visiting the house, you gave up your room. 279 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: And it was like it was like the thing, like 280 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: you give up your room, you sleep in the room. 281 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: You have to be a good post. And that's what 282 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: they were doing, basically, you know, complain like you never 283 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: complain about like, oh, I don't eat pork, and it's 284 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: like you do today, you know, and it's like you do. 285 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: You don't complain about the food. You don't. It's like rude. 286 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: I remember my mom, like you learned that lesson really quickly. 287 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: Like I remember we were somewhere and I didn't want 288 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: to eat something that I didn't like, I don't tomatoes 289 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: and I was little, and then like they made this 290 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: like be stick and said, well, yeah, like it's like 291 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: a like a beef you know, stew and I had 292 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: tomato and whatnot in it. And I just remember like 293 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: I was just like I don't want to eat this, 294 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: and I said it like kind of loud, and my 295 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: mom gave me the look of the look. And I'll 296 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: never forget that because never did I make that mistake again. 297 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: I never seen that face on my mom. And I 298 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: was like, Mom, what's wrong are you going to kill 299 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: some Oh my god, that someone's mate, you know. And 300 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: I never made that mistake again, and so I didn't 301 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: complain about it. And so and after that I had 302 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: like similar incidents that would happen again. Like you know, 303 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: I lost my biological father when I was one, uh, 304 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: and I never got to meet him, so like I 305 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: never really saw like you know, pictures and whatnot. Like 306 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: there's a story too, like my mom thought that he 307 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: abandoned us and so basically got rid of all his 308 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: pictures because they elope together to Santa Ana and from 309 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: Mexico and they're like, who cares, We're gonna live our 310 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: lives and we're young and blah blah. And she got 311 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: pregnant with me and then gave birth to me, and 312 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: then like a year into after I was born, my 313 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: dad was like, okay, I want to go back. And 314 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: my brother asked me to be godfather and uh, you 315 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: know in his daughter's baptism and it's like, oh okay. 316 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: He's like, so I'm gonna go do that and then 317 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: come back and yeahda yea da. So then he went 318 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: back to mex went back to Mexico. Yeah, and he 319 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: leaves and he never comes back, like no phone call, 320 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: no nothing. And my mom is a single like a 321 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: single mom with the baby living on her own Santa Anna. 322 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: So she's also like, you know, the toughest woman ever. 323 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: So she's like, fuck that guy, you know, and she's 324 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: like and she gets rid of all his pictures and 325 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: gets rid of all his stuff, and then like another 326 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: year and a half goes by and she gets a 327 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: phone call and the phone calls like, hi, is this 328 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: my Yan's like yeah, and it's like, hey, I just 329 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: thought it was sad that you don't know that your 330 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: your husband's dead. And she was like okay, and she's 331 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: like yeah. So like so he when he went to 332 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 2: the baptism, there was some kind of altercation and he 333 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: was shot. Oh wow, killed, and she didn't know that, 334 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: and so she got rid of all his pictures, thinking 335 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: that he abandoned as and he had every intent to 336 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: come back, like he was playing to come back. His 337 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: bags were like packed and everything, and he just went 338 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: to the baptism and that day of the baptism, right 339 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: outside the baptism, this incident happened and he was in 340 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 2: the crossfire and got shot, and no one bothered to 341 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: tell my mom because he had a lope with her, 342 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 2: So that side of the family didn't think that it like, 343 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: you know, well, she's the one the reason that he 344 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: left that way anyway, so like they didn't even bother 345 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: to call, and my mom felt terrible that she got 346 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 2: rid all his pictures and all that. So I never 347 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: grew up watching any kind of visual of him. So 348 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 2: cut to like when I'm like seven years old and 349 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: we're living in a spaia. In the middle of the night, 350 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: I wake up and my door is like right or 351 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: my best friend in front of the doorway to the hallway, 352 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: and the hallway lights always on. Come mom again. I'm 353 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: a very scaredy cats growing up, and so my mom 354 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: always leaves it on and I'm sleeping and I can 355 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: always I mean, like I must be a really light 356 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: sleeper because I can sense if there's a noise, if 357 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: there's a movement, if the light turns off, I can 358 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: just sense it, like I just know that it happens. 359 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: And for some reason, I felt like the light went off. 360 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: I just felt it, like I don't know why. I 361 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: was not deep in the rim, I was just falling 362 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: to sleep, and I just felt that the light turned off. 363 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: I can I could almost hear the click, like, you know, 364 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: and I felt it and I went and I got 365 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: up to that, you know, like I jumped up in 366 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: my bed and I looked up and the light was 367 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: not off. It was on, but there was a man 368 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: silhouette in front of it. Like the light was behind 369 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: them and it was making a silhouette. So all I 370 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: could see was a man at the edge of my 371 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: bed in the silhouette, and I was like, oh my god, 372 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: Like I was like, we're being robbed, Like we're being robbed, 373 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: Like I was like, this is a robber. He's gonna 374 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: kill me. Like I was like, and this is just 375 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: little me thinking, Like I was like, oh my god, 376 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: my mom's either side. He's in between me and my 377 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 2: mom's room. And I was just like, oh no, I 378 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 2: can't even run to like all these things are going 379 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: and I'm just looking and trying to see if i 380 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: can find a description just in case I describe this man. 381 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: And I can't find a description. This man has no 382 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 2: face again, there's like no face on the stand, but 383 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: he has But this time around, it's a human. It's 384 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: not like a horns and hoofs and like claws and 385 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: all that. It is a human. I can see the 386 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: silhouette of a man's body standing at the ditch in 387 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: my bed, and I'm so freaked out. I go under 388 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: my covers, and I think, now, is he like blocking 389 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 2: the light or can't even see what he looks like. 390 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: I'm like I can't even go and I'm just like 391 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: what is happening? And like I go under the covers 392 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: and then I wait like two seconds and then I 393 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: come out and he's gone, like the man is gone. 394 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: And I was like, he's probably robbing the house. And 395 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, and I get out 396 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: of bed. I go to my mom's room. I open 397 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: the door, He's not there. I get scared, so I'm like, 398 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: whould call the police? And I run to the living 399 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: room and I like, nothing's taken, that thing's changed, and 400 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute. I was like, that 401 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: wasn't a robber. Oh wait, Oh my god. I was 402 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: like that was And then for the longest time, I thought, 403 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: was that my dad visiting me? I really thought maybe 404 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: Dad came to visit because I thought it was a 405 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: robber because I never had seen like the silhowetter in 406 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: my life before. So to this day, I'm like, I 407 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: think Dad came to visit and that was like his spirit. 408 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: Oh well, that's sweet. So you never saw anything like 409 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: that again in that house. 410 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: No, So we moved a lot when I was little. 411 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: We moved so much. I would say, I like moved 412 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: every other year because when my mom remarried when she 413 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: when I was six, my dad's construction company moved all 414 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: over like they worked everywhere, so like it was wherever 415 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: they needed to build something, that's where all the you know, 416 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: workers would go. So we moved all over southern California. 417 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: We moved to Las Vegas. In Las Vegas, we lived 418 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 2: for a year, and I hate eat a Las Vegas 419 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: because it was during the time when I couldn't do 420 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: anything that was fun, you know what I mean. At 421 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: that point, I think it was twelve and you couldn't 422 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: go to the casinos. If your parents wasn't next to 423 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: you can go to Circus Circus, but they had like 424 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: the little kid area. But after you do that, once 425 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: you've seen one clown, you've seen them all. 426 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: You know that story of my life. 427 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: And so like I just hated living there when I 428 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: was at age and it was the desert, so you 429 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: couldn't I was so used to La and being active 430 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: that like being in Las Vegas you can't even go outside. 431 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: You get a heat stroke, you know, like it's just 432 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: it was so bad then. But when we moved back 433 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: to LA that was when we lived in Spires when 434 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 2: I saw the silhouette, and that was when I saw 435 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: the man silhouette, you know, And that was when I 436 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: was probably seven or eight. And then after that, I 437 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: just like have been really sensitive to energy. And it's 438 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: just when I mean people like and like again, like 439 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: I was always like, you have really good energy, like 440 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: when people are saying that sometimes like oh they're just bs, 441 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: you know, but I knew people I don't know, I 442 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: think that like I'm like that good energy or even 443 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: if I give the benefit of the dam like send 444 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: things off about this energy and then like later on 445 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: it's like, oh got it, they're a killer. 446 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: Do you do you sense that when there's no one there, 447 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: like do you go? I do, say, in a minute, 448 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: I feel, yeah, I feel like in a weird way. 449 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: And like I guess I don't know if it could 450 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: be called it being an mpath or something, but like 451 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: I guess energy is also drawn to energy, you know 452 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: what I mean? So like for me, like I just 453 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 2: I know that there's energy out there. I know that 454 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: we're you know, our bodies are just tangible. We're here 455 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: for a limited time. But where does this energy go? 456 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: You know, like where do we go after this body expires? 457 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: You know, there's still so much like energy in us. 458 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: And do we just evaporate or do we linger? Do 459 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: we like hold on to things? Do we haven't finished business? 460 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: Like I really love that we are energy. We all 461 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: can agree that everyone has a different type of energy. 462 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: And either you die and you're a grumpy old, you 463 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 2: know guy, or you die happy and you know it's 464 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: like your energy goes or it stays, but it stays 465 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: the way that you you wanted to stay, you know. 466 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: So I was living in this apartment, like was it 467 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: eight years ago? And it was an old apartment was 468 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: built in the twenties in Los Angeles on Wilshire, and 469 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: it used to be a hotel. It was built in 470 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: the twenties, and it was in the area where like 471 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: you know, Clara Bow used to hang out near the 472 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: West Lake Theater, like this area. The Plaza hotel is 473 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: right next to it. So it was the place to 474 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: be in the nineteen twenties, you know, and even up 475 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: to the nineteen fifties, like down the street the you know, 476 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: it was a bit tailor used to hang out like 477 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: the bars and stuff like down there on Wilshire, So 478 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: it has all this old history to it and it's 479 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: old vibe. And so when I looked at the at 480 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: the apartment, I really fell in love with the art 481 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: deco and I was like, this is so cool. And 482 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: I's since meeting into studios and apartment one bedrooms and 483 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: two beds or whatever. And I walked in and I 484 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: walked the apartment and I remember walking and I was like, 485 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: I like it, you know, it feels it feels good. 486 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: But there's definitely like energy in the building, Like there's 487 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: definitely stories here in this building, right, And I just 488 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: remember that my sister hated visiting me. And my sister's 489 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 2: also really sensitive to energy, even more so than I, 490 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: because after a while you get jaded and you just 491 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: like push that side of you, like I don't want 492 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: to focus on that, you know, I want to focus 493 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: on you know, what I'm doing. But she's really much 494 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: like sensitive to energy, and she didn't like and she 495 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't tell me why, And I was like, why don't 496 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: you like coming up? Like so I don't like your apartment. 497 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't like being in your apartment by myself because 498 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: someone's I be like, okay, I'm not going to be home, 499 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: but go ahead and go inside, and like, you know, 500 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: here she has a set of keys to my apartment. 501 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: And she didn't want to do it. She never wanted 502 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: to come to my apartment if she wasn't with me 503 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: or with someone else. And I was like why. She 504 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: goes like, I'm I don't want to scare you, but 505 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: your apartment is as creepy as fuck. And I was 506 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: like why And I was like, how dare you tell 507 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: me the truth to my face? At least have the 508 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: distancy to say behind my back. And I was just like, why, 509 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: what do you talking about? And she goes, and this 510 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 2: is what creeping out because she goes. I don't like it. 511 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: She goes every time I go, so like, your creepy 512 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: neighbor with that hat is always like, you know, just 513 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 2: hanging out. And I was like, what are you fu 514 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: are you talking about? It's like your neighbor across the hall. 515 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, babe, no one lives across the hall. 516 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: What creepy? 517 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: What? 518 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: So she was just seeing somebody with a hat just 519 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: she was hanging. 520 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: Out, watching like one of the original tenants, like I asked, 521 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 2: like I asked the landlord. I was like, who lives 522 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: And I was like, no, one's lived in an apartment 523 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 2: and like for at least a year and a half. 524 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: And I was like, and who lived there before? It 525 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: was like all this old gentleman, he's been here for years. 526 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god. And I was like, 527 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 2: oh god, and I was like yeah. And so my 528 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: sister saw him at least three times, and she she 529 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: said she saw him like in full form, so she 530 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: thought it was a person. And I was like, what 531 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: are you talking about. She was, I don't like it 532 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 2: because your creepy neighbor across the hall is always there 533 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: when I walk. And I was like, there's no one 534 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: across the hall and he's like she was like, yes, 535 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: there is. There's a guy across the hall. And I 536 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: was like, no, there isn't. And she's like I always see. 537 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: And then I had to like prove it to her, 538 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: and that even freaked her out more and she was 539 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: like that's it. No, no man. She was like, oh, good, 540 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 2: see this guy with the long trench coat in a 541 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: nineteen forties hat walking down the hall on the. 542 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: Trench coat is never good news, either you're a nineteen 543 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: forties ghost or a flash. 544 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, and that's probably why she 545 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: probably took it more as like a I don't know, 546 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: that guy is probably some creep as a flash, you know, 547 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: but really it was probably some guy you know, the 548 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: forty He was young in the forties and then he 549 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: went back to that state in his youth. But like 550 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: he she saw him several times, which is weird because 551 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: then I think, so, is that guy just hanging down 552 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: in the hall but I don't see him because I'm 553 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: not like completely committed to seeing him, or is she 554 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: so sensitive that she picked it up right away? But 555 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: she saw him every time, and when I told her 556 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: that story, she definitely never came back. But also the 557 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: building had a lot of bad energy too. I could 558 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: feel that, you know, you'd walk some pockets of them 559 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: because I'd just like to walk around my building because 560 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm crazy, and you walk around the building and there's 561 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: some corners and pockets that you're like, oh, I was like, 562 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: something happened, you know, something happened here. I'm really sensitive 563 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: to that. And then I had a really bad experience 564 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 2: there one time, which eventually maybe move from that floor, 565 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: because I was walking to the elevator and I just 566 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: saw this young guy who used to come. His dad 567 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: was divorced and his dad lived in the building and 568 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: he had a corner apartment and I would always see 569 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: him together when he come to visit his dad for 570 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: the weekend or something, because he lived with his mom. 571 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: And I saw the elevator open, and I was gonna 572 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 2: go because I was raining late and had to get 573 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: in my car and I had to go to meet 574 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: a friend for dinner. And the parking lot for the 575 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: apartments is right next door, and so I was running 576 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: to the elevator. The elevator open, and I saw you, 577 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: the young guy come out, and I was like, oh, hi, 578 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: and he looked very melancholic. He looked very kind of 579 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: like out of it, a little sad at consense, but 580 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to start a conversation if 581 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: we don't want to finish it. So I was like, hey, 582 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 2: how you doing, and he was just like quiet. He 583 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: didn't He like said something under his breathing, like you're 584 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: not even trying to have a conversation. And I was like, okay, 585 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: well by you know, and like I just pressed to 586 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: go down and he just went. You know, I never 587 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: saw him alone though, because I saw him with his dad, 588 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 2: which was really weird because I always saw him together. 589 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: They were coming from getting dinner because there was a 590 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 2: weekend and they always hang out together. And then I 591 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: got down to the first floor and then I walked 592 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: by the mill and like his dad was he's getting 593 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: the mail. So I said, oh, there he is. Howth 594 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 2: that makes sense? And then I went to get my car, 595 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 2: got in the car. I pull out of the driveway, 596 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: out of the car and I'm training left on the 597 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: street and then I just you know, drive and then 598 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: I get to the light right in the corner where 599 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: the building is, and I stopped at the red light 600 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: and then I just hear and I'm just like, oh, 601 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: that's weird. And then people are honky behind me, and 602 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: I was like, what are they honky? And I was 603 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: like whatever. I was like, can I just drive away 604 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 2: because I have to go to dinner. Hours later go by. 605 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: I went to dinner, I came back and my whole 606 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: streets roped off and I come back and I was like, 607 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: what's going on? They won't let me in the police 608 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: like you can't come in and I was like, why 609 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: as I live right there, and he was like, oh, 610 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: you have to go through the hare and blah blah. 611 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: So I could go around the block enterm on the side. 612 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: And I asked the guys because in my building, because 613 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: the way that it works, the building, they don't have 614 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: parking for the tenants, so they hire like a parking 615 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: service of la service, and you have to pay extra 616 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: just because otherwise no one will live in that building. 617 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: And so they parked your car for you. And so 618 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: I pulled up to the guys and I was like, hey, 619 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: what happened? So like, oh, yeah, that the dad guy, 620 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: you know, the dads on your floors, like guys like 621 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: his son jumped off the building. 622 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: Oh so you saw him right before? 623 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god, it was and he was he 624 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: had a mission, like I literally when I got in 625 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: the elevator and I was like, that's where he's not 626 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: with his dad, and he never he went straight to 627 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 2: the room. And when I got in the car and 628 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: that honking he had fallen on the street right behind 629 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: my car. 630 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is crazy. 631 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: And I and people were honky and they stopped in 632 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: the midt and I was like, what are they honking 633 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: at because I felt it. I felt like a you know, 634 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: and I was like, what the hell was Like? What 635 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: was that? I was like, But it's also a busy street, 636 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: so I was like, somebody must have hit something, a 637 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: car down the street whatever. And then I just I 638 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: was such in a rush mode that I didn't even 639 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: bother and those like. But then I thought, oh my god, 640 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: if I was running twenty seconds later, that would have 641 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: fallen right on my car. That oh my god, was 642 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: fallen on my car because it happened like twenty feet 643 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: behind my car. 644 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: Wow, that is crazy, isn't I'm like, I wasn't sure 645 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: where the story was going, but. 646 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying that that building, you know what I mean, 647 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: Like sometimes the building just itself is like bad energy 648 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: or like it has energy that either because guess like 649 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: I know how to deal with like energies like that, 650 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 2: because I'm like, okay, I'm sensitive to it. But imagine 651 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: if you have to deal with energies, then you're not 652 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: comfortable with it, you know what I mean? Like maybe 653 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: was that out of a factor? Maybe not? Maybe was 654 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: it a factor that you know, this young guy was 655 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: just depressed and you know, and then the worst part 656 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: was that when I parked my car, I bumped into 657 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: his dad again. 658 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 659 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: He just came up to me and cried in my hands, 660 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: and I didn't know what to do. And I was like, 661 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: because you know, you know your neighbor, but you don't 662 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: really know that. I mean, like you're not like having 663 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: dinner every night or whatnot, like you say hello and like, yeah, 664 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: poor job. But like he just came up to me 665 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: and cried in my hands, and I was like, oh 666 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: my god, I'm so sorry because everyone knew by that point, 667 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: everyone knew that it was his son that had jumped off, 668 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 2: and I had just seen him at the mailbox when 669 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: I had just seen his son exit the elevator. 670 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean that's the thing with these 671 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: with buildings in Hollywood especially, I mean, they have so 672 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: many stories and so many so much energy just around them. 673 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean, just imagine the decades and decades of who 674 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: knows what happened? 675 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean the city runs unfortunately, like 676 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: I'm broken dreams, you know what I mean, Like so 677 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: many people come into the city to make their dreams 678 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: come true, and unfortunately that doesn't happen. You know, all 679 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: the time and everyone, and so what happens to the dreams? 680 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: You know, like that's where that's where the unfinished business 681 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: side comes into Hollywood, I think with ghosts. 682 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like it's crazy, but you're you're absolutely 683 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: right this whole city. I'm surprised we don't have more 684 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: like haunted tours of Los Angeles because you go to 685 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: other cities like another thing that was really creepy. Like again, 686 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: I love I love the whole you know, haunted idea 687 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: because I do believe in it. And like, the creepiest 688 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: place I've ever been in my life, aside from those 689 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: stories and that even those don't take the cake, the 690 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: creepiest place I've ever been is Savannah, Georgia. Oh yeah, 691 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: because Savannah, Georgia is voted the most haunted city in 692 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: America and with good reason. Like you step off onto 693 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: any street in Savannah and you just feel this heavy 694 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: heaviness and then you're like, ooh, what is that And 695 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: it's like because the whole city is built on like 696 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 2: grave sites and like it's basically Savannah was one of 697 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: the first I could totally wrong with those information that 698 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: I was given by the tour guides there and the 699 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: local historians. But it was one of the first, you know, 700 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: spots where you could stop if you were doing an 701 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: over atlantic trip, you know, like if you were coming 702 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: from the South, like going to Louisiana, Savannah was like 703 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: a port that you stopped. And if you go into 704 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: New York, you would stop in Savannah. Savannah was like 705 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: one of the places that you could stop and unfortunately 706 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: dump your dead, Like if someone died on the boat 707 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: on the way over from whether it be Europe or 708 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: you know, Africa or whatever, like, it would literally stop 709 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: there and dump their bodies and they just cover it 710 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: with dirt. Next ship. Dump their bodies, cover with dirt, 711 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: next ship. And so the city is built on just 712 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of souls and like it's creepy in 713 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: that way. And if you read, if you've read the 714 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: book or watch the movie Midnight in the Garden of 715 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: Good and Evil, all those places and characters in that 716 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 2: book are still well maybe not all the characters, but 717 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: the places are very much there. And that place has 718 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: tons of energy, and their tours are amazing because there's 719 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: not one house in that city that doesn't have a story, 720 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 2: like some kind of horrible tragedy happened. There's one where 721 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: like this little girl was the daughter of the senator 722 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: or something, and she was being you know, disobeying him 723 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: or something. It was summertime, and so to teach her 724 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 2: a lesson, he like beat her and tied her down 725 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: to a chair and put her in the living room 726 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: in the window facing the setting sun, so it'd be 727 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: like you're gonna stare at hair till dinner, and YadA YadA. 728 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: Well it was so hot and he had beaten her 729 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: so much that the poor little girl died. And no 730 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: charges were filed against this person because he was like 731 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 2: an official, you know. And and so to this day, 732 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: people swear they see the little girl. And I kid 733 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: you not. During the tour, like I just looked up 734 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: at a window at one of the houses and there 735 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: was a short, bobbed, haircut little girl looking out the window. 736 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, So are you somebody that goes 737 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: on you like to do like ghost tours and if 738 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: you have the opportunity. 739 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: I don't do them all the time, but if I 740 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 2: get the chance. Especially when I was in Savannah, that 741 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: was like a muss and I was just like, well, 742 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm here and I have to do it, and it's 743 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: the most haunted city and it's voted the most hearted, 744 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: say in America. And it's like I felt it like 745 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I have to do it. I 746 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: have to do it here because it wasn't I didn't 747 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: feel like it was a ghost tour. It felt like 748 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 2: it was a history walked through the city, and the 749 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: history itself was haunting, Like it was like not even 750 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: to be scary. It was like in sixteen forty and 751 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god. You know, it's like 752 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: that sounds terrifying. 753 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: And because that's the thing with LA is that we're 754 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: so young compared to you know, baby. 755 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 2: Like we're total babies. That's what people always like, Yeah, 756 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: they're just total total Like in comparison, we're like the 757 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: little the baby brother or sister to the rest of 758 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 2: the nation. 759 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: We're so much dense. Like when it comes to stories, 760 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: and I mean obviously so many, so many people shoved 761 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: into this part of the country, but just so many 762 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: ups and downs and juicy stories in Hollywood over the 763 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: years that could certainly lend their hand to people becoming 764 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: ghosts at some point. 765 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like I feel yeah, just because of again 766 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: the energy and history of the last you know century, 767 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: just because tinsel Town, you know, and it's like, oh, 768 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: make it come true. And it's like, because how many 769 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: people do even to this day, like we don't even 770 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 2: have to go one hundred years. You can make a 771 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: story off the last decade. How many people move into 772 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: Los Angeles every day, Like we don't have enough space, 773 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: you know, Like it's like literally every day we just 774 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: have bus loads and planeloads of people, models, actors, dancers, 775 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 2: you know, musicians, writers, you name it. There's just different 776 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 2: forms of artists who come to this city to try 777 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 2: to break it in, you know, break into the business 778 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: or make it big. And that's a lot of people. 779 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: That's the you know, so many die trying, so. 780 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: Many die trying, and it's like and it's like the classic, 781 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 2: like you know, what's the story? And I forgot the 782 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: actress's name who jumped off Hollywood sign. 783 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: You know, peg and twhistle, Yeah, yes. 784 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: And the fact that like, you know, because of the 785 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: time and like the way that people communicated, there was 786 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: a telegram waiting for her at home that she had 787 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 2: just been cast in the show, and she didn't get 788 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: the telegram because she had called it quits and had 789 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: you know, over to the Hollywood Sign. I was like 790 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: that shit would never happen. Now you get a text 791 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: and be like you booked it, you know, yes, And 792 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: now so you'd like to think that like because of technology, 793 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 2: people's lives are being saved literally, like people are at 794 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 2: their you know, last resort and like andwits and like whatever. 795 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: But like it's just a text and a message that 796 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 2: could turn things around, you. 797 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: Know, especially when you think about like hotels or apartments. 798 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: There's you know, there's so many of those buildings in 799 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood that have like one hundred units in them, and 800 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: just think of all the things that have happened in 801 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: those I mean even like I had an experience at 802 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Towel Franklin, and that's a place that's pretty 803 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: well known as being haunted. And just like, you know, 804 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: decade after decade of of just the hollywoodness of Hollywood 805 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: happened in that building. And another place I always think 806 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: of is the Cecil Hotel downtown. Do you know that place? 807 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what but. 808 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: That's one where dark stuff has happened decade after decade. 809 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like a lot I mean where again, 810 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: the question is where does this energy go? You know, 811 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: you can't capture it. You can't say, you know, move 812 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 2: along unless you are trying to do that. You know, 813 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: it's just and it's just roaming energy and like it's 814 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: just around us. But it makes a little bit creepier 815 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 2: when you add the element of a tragic story, you know, 816 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: like when you at the Hollywood Story or like everyone 817 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: has a story in a hotel. You know. One of 818 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: my favorite shows actually and that I got to be 819 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: a part of episode coming up soon is Room four 820 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: on HBO because it's a different story every week in 821 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: the same room of a hotel, and it's so brilliant 822 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: because it I don't know, like every time I go 823 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: into a hotel, especially if it's an older hotel, I 824 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 2: was like, how many people have gone through these walls? 825 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: Like, you know, like that creeps me out. I do 826 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: that so much. As soon as I get in the room, 827 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: that's always when it occurs to me, oh, this place 828 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: could be haunted, specifically this room. And then I google 829 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: and luckily I've never phound, but I'm waiting for the 830 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: day where I google and it says in room one 831 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 1: oh six, right where you are somebody died. 832 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,959 Speaker 2: No, no, man, I as much as I'm like, okay, 833 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,479 Speaker 2: I'm okay with that, Like I rather not, I rather repeat. 834 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: But in one of the odds that you'll find like 835 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: a room that hasn't had some kind of energy, you know, 836 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: like it's like the numbers are not in our favorite 837 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: Like there's just so many people, so many people staying 838 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: in hotels. Accidents happen, whether you know it was. 839 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: On when it might not even be death, you know, 840 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: as many people believe, and I believe this, that people 841 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 1: can have a fight. 842 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, the energy lingers. Yeah, I totally believe that. That's 843 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: why sometimes you walk in like, oh, it doesn't have 844 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: a good It doesn't mean someone died there. It just 845 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 2: means that like someone got divorced here, you know, like 846 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: or somebody you know was dealing with a loss of 847 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: a loss of a parent, or someone lost a child. 848 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 2: You know, like it's different kinds of energy. But that 849 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: energy is heavy and it lingers. And I feel like 850 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to always be death, that it could 851 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: be something really tragic, or it could you know, and 852 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: it could just uh it really kind of you can 853 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 2: absorb it, you know, or osmosis you know, and you're 854 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 2: like trying to not but it's hard. It's like energy 855 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 2: does change everything you can when you know, like when 856 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 2: you're doing like a show or something, you take the 857 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 2: temperature of the room, you know, and it's like, oh, 858 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 2: people are not feeling that, you know, and energy is 859 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: because of energy. It's like if no one, like everyone 860 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 2: has to be on board or it's not gonna work, 861 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 2: or at least the majority are, and and some people 862 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 2: want to make it a downer, then it's going to 863 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 2: become a downer, you know. 864 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think it's also maybe human nature that 865 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: we we tend to focus on like the negative or 866 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: like you know, we can we really can acknowledge when 867 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: something feels negative. But I think the same can go 868 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: with positive energy as well. I think that there are 869 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: certainly places that you can go where you're like, oh, 870 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: there's just a good vibe in this room. Years and 871 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: years of just happiness have happened here. 872 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: Apps and I believe that, yeah, one hundred percent. And like, well, 873 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 2: you look at your like, you know, who do you 874 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 2: surround yourself with, Like when people say, oh, I don't 875 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: want to go hang out with them, they're always down? 876 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: Is like well, why do you keep hanging out with 877 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: someone who's a downer? You know, because it's like that 878 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 2: old thing. Show me who your friends are, and I'll 879 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: show you who you are. And like if you surround 880 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 2: yourself with like energy of like, I don't like just 881 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 2: always complain. I'm a positive person. I like to be 882 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 2: around positive energy. And then when like it's I get 883 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: around someone. If if it's a bad situation and you 884 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 2: can help it, then it's like, oh yeah, let's make 885 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 2: it better, you know. But if it's a constant, you know, 886 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: dwelling and living in that dark pit of that, then 887 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 2: that's all okay, Oh I see you want to like 888 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: live there, you know what I mean. And it's like 889 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 2: you want to live in that energy, then you know, 890 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 2: by all means do that. But I don't want to 891 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 2: come and like get in that tar pit of like 892 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 2: negative energy. 893 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: Well wait, going back to negative energy. I'm still I 894 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about the demon that crawled on you 895 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: and Santa. I am, yeah, you believe that that was 896 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: a demon. I believe it was a demon. 897 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: And I don't know why why would it be so detailed? 898 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: And the part of me again is like was I 899 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 2: I was always like a really you know, a kid 900 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: with a big imagination. Was it something that I imagine? 901 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: But then there was so detailed and it was like 902 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 2: the night light was on. Like I couldn't even I 903 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 2: couldn't even justify by saying it was dark in the room, 904 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 2: you know, like it was like I couldn't even say 905 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: that because it was well lit, because again I was 906 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 2: a scaredy cat, and I was just like I saw 907 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: it so detailed and a tail that's swung Like it 908 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 2: was like how why you know what I mean? 909 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: You know what's so interesting is I I'm thinking of 910 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 1: maybe three times now that I've heard of a haunted 911 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: place in Santa Ana, California, that is people believe to 912 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: be a demonic or at least dark energy. 913 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 2: So is there something in Santa Ana, like is a 914 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 2: portal or something that that demons are like exiting and entering. 915 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, it could be. 916 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: But also Santana is very old, you know, like Santana 917 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 2: has a beautiful courthouse, but it is like that is 918 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: a courthouse built in like the late eighteen hundred or something. 919 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 2: You know, it was one of the first places to 920 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 2: like have you know, settlement, to like establish like a 921 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: city and like living and whatnot. So it does have 922 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 2: a lot of history, Like it's right next to the 923 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 2: Orange Groves, you know, which was all farmland, but it 924 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: Santa Ana was one of like the up and coming 925 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 2: cities back in the day. 926 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,240 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that there should be demons. 927 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't, but there must be some kind of 928 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 2: something in Santa Ana. Like that's so weird. It really, 929 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 2: Like now intrigues me that you said that, because this 930 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 2: is the third time you've heard it's specifically a Santa 931 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 2: Ana like demon story. Then there's something there, Like there's 932 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 2: definitely something more like is that the hub, Like is 933 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 2: that with the demons hang out that? 934 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: There was also an episode of Ghost Adventures where they 935 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: went to a place that I also want to say 936 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: is no longer there. I don't quote me on that, 937 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: but it was called the Yost Theater downtown. They had 938 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: some spooky stuff happening there. 939 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 2: I wouldn't doubt that. Like Main Street and Santa Ana too, 940 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 2: like it is old Americana feel, you know, and it's 941 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: just something about it, just like creepy and like there's 942 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 2: a lot of shit that went down, you know, back 943 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 2: in the old days and and people took the lawn 944 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 2: into their own hands. And you know, but that could 945 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 2: be a lot of places. But now that I think 946 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: about it, Santa Ana has probably some rooted, like dark 947 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 2: stuff that happened in the city. And and you know, 948 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 2: people try to erase bad memory. Isn't bad history all 949 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 2: the time because you definitely see it in the textbooks 950 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 2: and won't be like there won't be a parade at 951 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 2: things that were done, you know, every year, like they're 952 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 2: not like but yeah, so that makes me think about 953 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 2: what happened and what is Is it a hub? Maybe 954 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 2: it's a hub. Maybe it's like a like hub. 955 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices? 956 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 2: Wait? Do you did you hear ghosts? Right now? 957 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: I probably should have worn you. We play a game 958 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: where I play ghost voices for my guests. 959 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 2: Oh god, no, no, no, I know that. But I that 960 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 2: you said, do I hear some ghost Like? Are you 961 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 2: having a moment? When you? 962 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,240 Speaker 1: Did you hear that? 963 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 2: That's you men, not the game. 964 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for it. Ev h ev plase Do 965 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: you know what EVP is? Electic voice phenomena? Okay, so 966 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: it's when people, you know, capture what they believed to 967 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: be the voice of a ghost. So I go to YouTube, 968 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: I find ghost voices, and I want you to guess 969 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: what you think the ghost is saying, or you know 970 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: what the ghost hunter thinks. Okay, so I have two 971 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: of them. The first one on YouTube was posted by 972 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: Planet Paranormal Investigations slash Bob Davis and this took place 973 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: at the world famous haunted Queen mary and Long Beach. 974 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: Have you ever been? 975 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 2: Oh, several times. My sister loves it that too. 976 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: Do you think have you had any like haunted experiences there? 977 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 2: No, not me personally, but I had a friend. He 978 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 2: used to work at the checkout desk and then he 979 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: did the night shift, so like he would be the 980 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 2: one who goes to the rooms and slides the bill, 981 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 2: you know, for the next morning checkout. And he said 982 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 2: there there was one room that he refused to go 983 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: to because every time someone stayed there, even if they 984 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't make it to the night, that room would just 985 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: never have anyone stay through the night. They always wake 986 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,720 Speaker 2: up and they say, I like other room, please and 987 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: so but even if someone made it through the night, 988 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 2: it was the one room he didn't want to go 989 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 2: and leave the paper because every time he did, he 990 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 2: like bending down to do it and he could feel 991 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 2: something behind him and turn around and it wouldn't be there. Eventually, 992 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 2: he had to quit his job there because he said 993 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 2: that it was too much and it was just that 994 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 2: one room that always got to him. But the place 995 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 2: was haunted, he said, for sure, it was haunted, but 996 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 2: that one room was something that was not friendly. 997 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean, it's known as one of the 998 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: most haunted places in the world, and I've been there 999 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: a couple of times. I've never had a haunted experience, 1000 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: but there's just so many stories that it's hard to 1001 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: deny it. Yeah, but okay, here, this was taken in 1002 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: the boiler room, and what do you hear this ghost saying? 1003 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: That's kind of a quick question, was quick? 1004 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 2: And hear it again? Can I hear it again? Okay? Yeah? Help? 1005 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, that's a good that's a good guess. Here's 1006 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,919 Speaker 1: a couple of options. Is it a oh hey boo, 1007 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: B radio C Hello or d hell no, I'll play 1008 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 1: it again. 1009 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 2: Huh. I feel like it wants it wants to be 1010 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 2: something with the hello, hell with the h sound. 1011 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: Hey, I'll play it again? 1012 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 2: Hell no? 1013 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: You know that's kind of what I hear. But they 1014 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: think it's radio because the guy that was doing the 1015 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 1: ghost hunting said something about how he wanted to put 1016 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: the ghost on the radio, and then he says that 1017 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: he thinks the ghost said radio. 1018 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 2: The ghost said, hell no, you're not putting me on. 1019 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: The radio exactly. I didn't send a release. Wait, let 1020 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: me play it a good hell no, yeah that is 1021 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: hell no. I may be a ghost, but I still 1022 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: have my rights. 1023 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 2: Am I getting residuals for this? 1024 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: Okay, let's do. Maybe they're more of a podcaster than 1025 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: a radio person. Okay, here's one more, and this time. Okay, 1026 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: this place I didn't know much about, and I got 1027 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: really into researching about. It's in San Juan Capistrano. 1028 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 2: I love that place. 1029 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: And yes, it's called the Vintage Steakhouse. Have you ever 1030 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: been there? 1031 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 2: No? 1032 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, can I read you this story that I 1033 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: read about why it's haunted? 1034 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 2: Yes? 1035 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: Please, it's it's kind of incredible story. 1036 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 1037 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: This was posted by uh. Okay, so I. 1038 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 2: Get because they ate too much steak, I'm going to die. 1039 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: No, but this is We'll go back to the EVP later, 1040 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: but first I just want to read you what I read. 1041 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 1: I just googled this place, the Vintage Steakhouse, and it 1042 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: brought me to the Capistrano Dispatch, which I believe was 1043 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: a local newspaper, and this little article was posted by 1044 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: Jan Siegel and she says, OOO, did you feel that 1045 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: bump in the night? Ghost stories abound in San Juan, Capistrano. 1046 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: The newest addition to our ghost lower comes from the 1047 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 1: Vintage Steakhouse. The fact that the restaurant sits in what 1048 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: was a what was once a train compartment, is a 1049 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: significant part of this tale. Some of the employees and 1050 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: guests of the Vintage say that they have been haunted 1051 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: by the ghost of Modesta. Avila Modesta, a villa, lived 1052 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: in the Comb's House next to the railroad tracks and 1053 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: now the Hummingbird Cafe from eighteen eighty to eighteen ninety. 1054 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: According to local legend, she was upset when the railroad 1055 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: came to town because the noise of the trains kept 1056 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: her chickens from laying eggs. To let the railroad know 1057 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: that she was upset, she hung her laundry on the 1058 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,240 Speaker 1: tracks as a sign of protest. Modesta, a young Mexican girl, 1059 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: did not know that it was a federal offense to 1060 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: put anything over the railroad tracks. According to the facts, 1061 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: the station master advised her to take down the laundry 1062 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: before a train came, which she did so there was 1063 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: never so there really was no crime. However, it was 1064 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: eighteen eighty nine, the start of Orange County and there 1065 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: was a new district attorney in the new county. He 1066 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: lost his first case, which he should have won, and 1067 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: was anxious to prove his power, so he filed the 1068 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 1: charges against Modesta. The first case ended in a hung jury, 1069 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: so he was not content, so he filed against her again. 1070 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: This time he indicated that this young, unmarried Mexican girl 1071 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: was pregnant, a definite no no. In eighteen ninety the 1072 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: second time around, he got his conviction. Modesta was sent 1073 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: to San Quentin prison after two years, and she died 1074 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: in jail. There was never a baby, so sad okay, 1075 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: but so it says, the story stopped being his. Sorry, 1076 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: history stopped being concerned with Modesta until now. Recently, the 1077 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 1: patrons and employees of the Vintage Steakhouse have had several 1078 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: eerie episodes attributed to the ghost of Modesta. 1079 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,760 Speaker 2: A villa. 1080 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: Two women were in the restroom when one felt a 1081 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: startling bump. She was so frightened she fainted. The other 1082 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,439 Speaker 1: woman felt the bump so strongly that she went back 1083 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 1: to her table and told her husband that she would 1084 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 1: wait for him outside. She was never going inside the 1085 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: restaurant again. Employees have seen flickering lights, a vision of 1086 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: a young girl in the wine cabinet, creaky floors, and 1087 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: light images on the walls. An area in the dining 1088 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: car section of the restaurant has experienced cold drafts for 1089 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: no apparent reason. Okay, what about that story. 1090 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 2: That's insane. Well, she's angry also, like she just wanted 1091 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 2: her chickens to lay eggs. 1092 00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: I know, dumbess with the chickens. Yeah, it's like break 1093 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,720 Speaker 1: I love that she was protesting. 1094 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 2: I know. And I was like, that's very like gutsy 1095 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 2: and ballsy, you know, like to like especially in that time, 1096 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 2: and like, yeah, I would have wanted to be her friend. 1097 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 2: Like she sounds like she was a bet, I know, 1098 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 2: especially like back in those days. He's a man, she's female, 1099 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 2: Like she was ballsy, like she was like fuck you, 1100 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 2: you know, I don't care, and like. 1101 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was pulling some shady moves. On her too, 1102 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: being like, oh, she's pregnant and she's not married. 1103 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 2: That's the energy I'm talking about, the Santa Anna and 1104 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 2: that whole like Orange County, you know what I mean, 1105 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 2: Like that's the kind of an injustice that happened. I'm sure, 1106 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 2: left and right, you know, the stuff that like she 1107 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 2: was just my her own business, trying to like have 1108 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 2: eggs and chickens, and like someone really just wanted to 1109 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 2: go at her and and got what he wanted and 1110 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 2: then she died in prison. Like it's like come on, 1111 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I also want the movie rights to that. 1112 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 2: I know. 1113 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: Okay, well, so let's go back to the ev so 1114 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: OC ghosts and legends posted that they believe they caught 1115 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,959 Speaker 1: her or a ghost saying something, what do you think 1116 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 1: this says? I'm gonna be honest with you right now, 1117 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: I don't hear anything, but I play it again. All right, 1118 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 1: let me turn it up. I fuck youre' some options 1119 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: because that was not the one that they thought they heard. 1120 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 1: A I'm tired. How about you, b I'm gonna get you. 1121 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 1: See I don't like the train or d I'm not 1122 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: fucking with you. 1123 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get. 1124 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: You honestly, no, they thought that it was I don't 1125 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: like the train. I don't hear that at all. 1126 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 2: You know, it's weird that now that after you said 1127 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 2: that that's what they heard, my mind goes to, like, oh, 1128 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 2: I hear it now, you know, but only because that's 1129 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 2: in my brain, Like it's like, what's that word? 1130 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they have this story probably in the back 1131 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: of their head right that she did. What I thought. 1132 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: What I found interesting that they were saying when they 1133 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: caught this this ghost was that they wanted the train 1134 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: to go by because it's right next to the train, 1135 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: this restaurant, and they wanted to see up the energy 1136 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: from the train could get something to happen, because you know, 1137 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 1: many people believe that ghost feed off of you know, 1138 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 1: electrical energy and uh. And they said that as soon 1139 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: as the train went by, they heard that. So I mean, 1140 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: if this is that the spirit of that woman, I 1141 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: could see her being like, I don't like the train, 1142 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: get that out of here. 1143 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 2: That is true, that's definitely yeah. Yeah, now that I 1144 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 2: know that potentially it is that, now I can't step 1145 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 2: thinking that it's not that like it's like, oh yeah, yeah, 1146 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 2: that's I think that's where it is. She is upset, right, right, 1147 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 2: I shouldn't really say it's like, were are my eggs 1148 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:10,280 Speaker 2: or something? 1149 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 1: You know, get off my eggs? 1150 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 2: Get off my eggs. 1151 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 1: Well, hey, Harvey, that's about it. Oh, this was so wonderful. 1152 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: You really brought it today with these stories, and thank 1153 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 1: you so much. 1154 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 2: Well, thanks for having me. This was this was nice 1155 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 2: and it was good to get off my chest. And 1156 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna find that portal. I know there's like a 1157 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,879 Speaker 2: portal and Anna Heim or Santa Ana, we're gonna find it. 1158 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: What do you mean you're gonna find it? What are 1159 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 1: you gonna do with that? 1160 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 2: I go find it. I know now that you said that, 1161 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 2: there's different people who said they've had demons and stories 1162 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,280 Speaker 2: in that area. There has to be a reason. I'm gonna. 1163 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. You may never hear from me again. 1164 00:56:51,360 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: Well, good luck, Thank you, Harvey. You know I have 1165 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: another episode next week. Can't wait for like always honestly. 1166 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: We are joined by Katrina Wideman, who will be returning 1167 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: for her second visit. You know Katrina because she hosts 1168 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: the TV show Portals to Hell, which is on the 1169 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 1: Travel Channel. She co hosts with Jack Osborne. And she's 1170 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: had years and years and years of working in the 1171 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,439 Speaker 1: paranormal field and especially paranormal television, and of course she's 1172 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 1: got stories. She answers questions that you guys submitted, and 1173 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: also questions that I've been wondering about ghosts and what's 1174 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: going on in these portals to Hell. 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