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Speaker 4: Temperaturizing vision, flurring rage, take you over. Here's Paul Calvis.
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Speaker 4: It's June first, and that means we are another month
Speaker 4: closer to NFL football, almost exactly one hundred days away
Speaker 4: from Week one at Washington, Oh Boy And after today's Ota,
Speaker 4: Ron Wolfy new head coach Jonathan Gannon was asked about
Speaker 4: the robust attendance out there and his answer, and I
Speaker 4: do quote. If you want to get better at football,
Speaker 4: play football end quote. Jonathan Gannon as at Cardinals practice
Speaker 4: field is akin to a construction zone these days. The
Speaker 4: only thing missing are the orange pylons and maybe the
Speaker 4: backup beep of a big dump truck, because that heavy
Speaker 4: machinery sound out there is that of a new foundation
Speaker 4: being laid, a new culture being built, brick by brick,
Speaker 4: if you will, and it is the big red Rage
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Speaker 4: that with Greg Dorsch receiver extraordinaire momentarily right now, all
Speaker 4: Calvc and Ron Wolfley on the original Thursday Night Football.
Speaker 1: Paully so jacked up right now because as you can imagine,
Speaker 1: of course, these OTAs, they're not just like some other
Speaker 1: teams OTAs, Pauli. This is the Arizona Cardinals OTAs, and
Speaker 1: they've got a brand new regime. They've got a brand
Speaker 1: new way of doing things, a brand new culture, starting
Speaker 1: with the general manager Manti asen Ford of course, and
Speaker 1: now JG and the coaching staff. OTAs are very very important.
Speaker 1: Of course, when you've got first time coaches, you've got
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon and Monti asin Ford trying to absolutely create
Speaker 1: this brand new culture out of nothing. These are important
Speaker 1: days for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, I have it right here
Speaker 4: my roster. I was not walking on into that field
Speaker 4: without a freshly printed roster. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 4: in my almost twenty years covering the Cardinals here gone
Speaker 4: to a roster as often as I did today. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, who's that again? What name and what number?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a turnover, just the new names and faces.
Speaker 4: It is remarkable. And wolf a little bit later, I'll
Speaker 4: regale you with my OTA takeaways from earlier today and numbers.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 4: Number one is going to be Isaiah Simmons. We'll get
Speaker 4: into that in depth a little bit later. Number two
Speaker 4: is going to be the run game. We'll get into
Speaker 4: that with James Connor. And maybe you're starting center as well.
Speaker 4: But I tell you, there's so much here that you
Speaker 4: can look at virtually every position group and guess what
Speaker 4: we now include receiver because that has evolved as well.
Speaker 4: After the Cardinals to begin well the Memorial Day weekend,
Speaker 4: they released DeAndre Hopkins and Jonathan Gannon. With his first
Speaker 4: comment when asked about the release of d hop today.
Speaker 5: All the factors that were in play. We just felt
Speaker 5: that it was the best thing for the team to
Speaker 5: play with who we have really no big deal to me.
Speaker 5: You know, we're operating on the premise that he's going
Speaker 5: to be here and now we're not, so we're moving on.
Speaker 4: Look, you could have gone to Manti Usin for the
Speaker 4: new GM and his initial intro press conference when he
Speaker 4: said the words that I quote again ego will not
Speaker 4: be tolerated right there, you could have made a case,
Speaker 4: guess what, d Hop is not coming back. But there
Speaker 4: were a lot of reasons. It went far beyond that.
Speaker 4: Wolf and I know you've talked about it at length.
Speaker 4: What are your takeaways as a Cardinals sit right here
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paula, you know, once again with d Hop, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a me situation. It was a we situation that
Speaker 1: got him gone. It was it was just the fact
Speaker 1: that the Arizona Cardinals, as far as I'm concerned, looking
Speaker 1: at Hop, they were all in on saying, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: if he's not going to be the type of guy
Speaker 1: from a practice perspective that we need, we're not going
Speaker 1: to have him on this team. And I think that
Speaker 1: may have got him out of here more than anything else,
Speaker 1: because again, and you're taking a jackhammer to an old foundation, Paul,
Speaker 1: That's what JG is doing right now, That's what Manti
Speaker 1: Austin Ford is doing. You're taking a jackhammer to the
Speaker 1: old foundation. You're ripping it up, and you're going to
Speaker 1: pour all new foundation to build your culture on. And
Speaker 1: a guy that isn't going to practice. I think they've
Speaker 1: made it very very clear that he's not going to
Speaker 1: be here and that's part of the old old culture.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's just you're right. I mean, everything sort
Speaker 4: of fits under the heading of not a great fit
Speaker 4: about to turn thirty one. The fact his cap hit
Speaker 4: would have been nearly thirty one million this year, you
Speaker 4: just saved over nineteen million in real cash. You don't
Speaker 4: have to pay him. You can take the entire cap
Speaker 4: hit of over twenty three million here this season only
Speaker 4: by letting him go before June first. Everything from the
Speaker 4: style of the offense and there's going to pre be
Speaker 4: a premium on receivers blocking to if you're going to
Speaker 4: begin this season close to how you ended last season
Speaker 4: with a backup quarterback. Dab didn't look all too interested
Speaker 4: in that scenario. So there's a lot of different reasons
Speaker 4: why the headline reads, and this is all jim O Mahundra.
Speaker 4: Well done from X receiver as in the letter X
Speaker 4: to X receiver as in e X. That's the headline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a headline right now, Pauline. Of course,
Speaker 1: everyone is saying, you know, what are you going to do?
Speaker 1: How are you going to replace him? Well, you're going
Speaker 1: to replace him by starting with the running game, paul
Speaker 1: That is how you're going to replace him. We're going
Speaker 1: to start running the ball.
Speaker 4: That and guess what, You're gonna see what you have
Speaker 4: under the hood and the rest of that receiver room.
Speaker 4: In fact, Jonathan Gannon commented on that today.
Speaker 5: Obviously he's a great player. You know, with the guys
Speaker 5: that we have on the team right now, they present
Speaker 5: some challenges to the defense with their skill sets. I
Speaker 5: think just with the guys that we have out there,
Speaker 5: getting the best eleven out there, who's our one, two, three, four, five, six,
Speaker 5: and putting them guys in positions that make plays for
Speaker 5: us and use their skill sets accordingly, I think will
Speaker 5: be okay.
Speaker 4: And again we're going to get into it with Greg
Speaker 4: Dortch Right is going to be part of that rotation.
Speaker 4: But if you have Hollywood Brown, Rondelle Moore, and Greg
Speaker 4: Dorch and Zach Pascal and then the third round rookie
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson, So there's basically the nucleus of your receiver room.
Speaker 4: How comfortable are you when I list off those names
Speaker 4: of that position group.
Speaker 1: I'm really comfortable, Paully, because once again, you're going to
Speaker 1: run the ball. Did I say that, Paul? You're going
Speaker 1: to run the ball. You're going to line up and
Speaker 1: you're going to play some smash model football. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I'm so fired up about that,
Speaker 1: because they are going to run the ball. But having
Speaker 1: said that, of all the names you just ripped off
Speaker 1: to me, Michael Wilson is the guy. Michael Wilson is
Speaker 1: a guy that is a large target. He's a guy
Speaker 1: that is very, very smart, and because of that, I
Speaker 1: think the learning curve of a wide receiver coming into
Speaker 1: the National Football League is going to go so much
Speaker 1: smoother for him because of his brain and a lot
Speaker 1: of the times you've got to be able to run
Speaker 1: these reid routes and be on the same page as
Speaker 1: your quarterback. And I think Michael Wilson is going to
Speaker 1: pick up the NFL game quickly. We'll see, that's a guess.
Speaker 1: But we'll see if he is able to actually contribute
Speaker 1: in a big way his rookie year.
Speaker 4: And it's going to be different on game day. DeAndre
Speaker 4: Hopkins a perennial Pro bowler. He commands a lot of
Speaker 4: attention from the defense, yes, and that sort of attention
Speaker 4: trickles down to everyone else. We know that. But here's
Speaker 4: the thing. He has missed fifteen of his last twenty
Speaker 4: six games. So the Cardinals became used to playing without
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins, and so when it comes to replacing d
Speaker 4: hop well, guess what they've been there and done that.
Speaker 4: Here's Jonathan Gannon on that challenge.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not really looking to replace d hop
Speaker 5: What I'm looking for is us to play together winning
Speaker 5: football as a team. And that's just not the receiver room.
Speaker 5: That's the tight end group, deal line grouped quarterback group,
Speaker 5: running back group, the defense, special teams at kicking. So
Speaker 5: football is never about one guy, never has never will be.
Speaker 5: And we all got to pull our weight.
Speaker 4: And we're gonna ask Greg Dorts just about the upside
Speaker 4: still in that receiver room, including Hollywood Brown. You remember
Speaker 4: before he suffered the foot injury. In Week six, Wolf
Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown was top five and receiving yards and top
Speaker 4: seven in receptions. He was among the league leaders with
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray out of the gate. So if you consider
Speaker 4: him wide receiver one, Hollywood Brown, what do you think
Speaker 4: what sort of season, especially a contract year for Marquise
Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown. I just wonder what's in store for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, first of all, once again, because the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to run the ball, and because they
Speaker 1: are going to put a quarterback under center, and because
Speaker 1: they are going to run play action, a lot of
Speaker 1: play action. Hollywood Brown tore up the league on a
Speaker 1: lot of play action when he was with the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: It's what he does. His speed, of course, allows him
Speaker 1: to get by. You run that play action, suddenly they'll
Speaker 1: safety settle down and they pad their feet and they
Speaker 1: chop it up and then suddenly you got Hollywood running
Speaker 1: a nine route down the sideline right. And that's some
Speaker 1: of the some of the plays I expect to see
Speaker 1: from this offense going forward. And Marquise Hollywood Brown is
Speaker 1: going to be right in the middle of that because
Speaker 1: of how good he is as a receiver that gets
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field as well on play action.
Speaker 4: Paul, Well, to your point, James Connor was asked today,
Speaker 4: and once again we'll hear from James Connor a little
Speaker 4: bit later, but the takeaway quote, at least for your purposes,
Speaker 4: I'm guessing, is when he was asked, Hey, James, what
Speaker 4: do you like about this new offense, and he immediately said,
Speaker 4: and I quote, that we're going to be running the
Speaker 4: ball a lot, and that he's already watched Brown's film
Speaker 4: for insight into the Drew Petsen scheme and he likes
Speaker 4: the way they use Nick Chubb put it that way.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it is a beautiful thing to behold. Now. Granted,
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns have an excellent offensive line. They do
Speaker 1: and they run the ball very, very well. And Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb is just simply I to me, he's the best
Speaker 1: running back. If I was going to pick one running back,
Speaker 1: I'd kid you not. I might surprise you with this,
Speaker 1: but I was going to pick one to build a
Speaker 1: running attack around, it'd be Nick Chubb. He is incredible
Speaker 1: to watch. He's built, loaded, the ground. He's powerful. You
Speaker 1: can't knock him off his feet easily.
Speaker 4: Love Chobb By the way, I think the Cardinals old
Speaker 4: line is a little more subtled than most people might think.
Speaker 4: We'll get into that a little bit later as well.
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Speaker 4: first two years in the NFL before he got traction
Speaker 4: with the Cardinals. Right he went into last season only
Speaker 4: three career catches, ended up being the Cardinals leading receiver
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Speaker 3: Murray looking fires right side and it's caught in the
Speaker 3: end Zona touchdown. Greg Dortch had his big time from
Speaker 3: Dorch and Kylo Snafter. Murray quick throw left side, It's
Speaker 3: caught at the one and into the end zone for
Speaker 3: the touchdown.
Speaker 4: Is Greg Dortch give.
Speaker 6: To Greg Dortch is across the forty to the forty
Speaker 6: five fifty into Tampa territory. Inside the forty five, spinning
Speaker 6: his way to the forty two yard line. Greg Dorch
Speaker 6: with more energy right now than the entire Tampa defense.
Speaker 6: There's a big chunk run.
Speaker 3: Hold in by dort breaks a tackle at the thirty barside,
Speaker 3: thirty five mother broken tackle, forty pass the left, cut
Speaker 3: by Dorts, burst out of the fifty barside forty thirty five,
Speaker 3: thirty cuts back on the right, twenty five, twenty torch,
Speaker 3: don't to speed fifteen and finally tackled at the thirteen.
Speaker 1: This is the one thing that is undeniable about Greg Dortch.
Speaker 1: Every time he gets the opportunity to play, he makes.
Speaker 4: Plas, make plays, make the team. It just started in
Speaker 4: camp last year and it continued all the way through
Speaker 4: the end of the season. And we're talking about a
Speaker 4: season where our guest on the Big Red Rage set
Speaker 4: career highs and games played, games started, catches, receiving yards, touchdowns.
Speaker 4: Last time we talked, in fact, it wasn't even in America.
Speaker 4: It was in Mexico City. It was after your big
Speaker 4: game against the forty nine ers. There we were in
Speaker 4: that cramp makeshift locker room at as Stadio as Teca.
Speaker 4: And now you know what. We're done messing around here
Speaker 4: on the Big Red Rage, brought to you by Santan
Speaker 4: Ford and Gilbert. We're gonna talk some real ball. We're
Speaker 4: gonna talk with Greg Dorsch. Greg, welcome back. And I
Speaker 4: tell you what. Let me start with camp last year,
Speaker 4: because at the end of camp all the coaches gave
Speaker 4: you props and praise for setting the tone for virtually
Speaker 4: everyone else. Right, And to what degree do you think
Speaker 4: that propelled you through the regular season everything you did
Speaker 4: in August? How much did that carry over?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 7: Man? Just the whole process of me not knowing if
Speaker 7: I was going to be on a team or not,
Speaker 7: and then getting a car from the Cardinals and just
Speaker 7: coming to training camp, and I was just trying to
Speaker 7: just showcase my abilities and show the coaches that I
Speaker 7: could show up every day and be consistent, and honestly
Speaker 7: just carried on into the season, man, And I just
Speaker 7: waited my turn, and my turn came, and I just
Speaker 7: took advantage of that.
Speaker 4: Even when you got the call that you made the team,
Speaker 4: you still weren't totally certain, right. I remember you saying
Speaker 4: that because your first year in the league.
Speaker 7: It happened before. Yeah, my first year in the league,
Speaker 7: I made the fifty three, and then the next day
Speaker 7: when they claimed the guy off waivers, they released me.
Speaker 4: So you start last season right, You lead the Cardinals
Speaker 4: with seven catches for sixty three yards against KC week one.
Speaker 4: Week two you had four grabs fifty five yards, had
Speaker 4: the touchdown. Week three against the Rams, nine grabs eighty yards,
Speaker 4: and then the snaps were inconsistent. Over the next seven games,
Speaker 4: you only had five catches. You know what happened? Why
Speaker 4: refresh my memory?
Speaker 7: Honestly, it was it's just the name of the game
Speaker 7: man you coming in. Ryndeale was the starter. I think
Speaker 7: he went down with Andrey, so my name got caught
Speaker 7: and it was just time for me to step up
Speaker 7: and make a play. But once he got healthy, it
Speaker 7: was his job, so I went back to being his backup.
Speaker 7: So that's rid of the main reason why I lost snaps.
Speaker 4: But then when you, as Wolf and Pash said there
Speaker 4: in the highlight montage, when you got your chance, you
Speaker 4: made darn sure to maximize your chance, like the breakout
Speaker 4: game in Mexico City against the Niners.
Speaker 7: Right, yes, sir, you never know when your numbers gonna
Speaker 7: get caught. Again. So shoot, man, I was excited to
Speaker 7: be in Mexico and just get my name called and
Speaker 7: my number called. And honestly, Randale was the starter. He
Speaker 7: was ready to go. And the first played the game,
Speaker 7: I think he went down. So it was just right,
Speaker 7: first pass he went down.
Speaker 4: It just started raining right right before kickoff. And then
Speaker 4: that's right, and you know what, your forty seven yard
Speaker 4: catch and run against the Niners in Mexico City was
Speaker 4: the longest play from scrimmage until until the very final game.
Speaker 4: The seventy seven yard er right and then and the
Speaker 4: aj Green catching run.
Speaker 7: I remember, I remember everybody talking about that, but I
Speaker 7: was excited for Aja that happened for him. I knew
Speaker 7: that was gonna be his last game, so for him
Speaker 7: to go out like that, man, it was great.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That was like the second play of the game.
Speaker 4: They set him up, you know, and it's finale. Greg
Speaker 4: Dortch is our guest here on the Big Red Rage.
Speaker 4: How many times have you heard the following, Yeah, you're
Speaker 4: not big enough to play.
Speaker 7: Forball my whole life, man, I've been playing football since
Speaker 7: I was six, and I've always been pretty much the
Speaker 7: smallest guy. So you just gotta find ways to make plays.
Speaker 7: Man's that's an excuse. Size is an excuse.
Speaker 4: So I coached my son's little league team a few
Speaker 4: years ago, right, and we play some of these teams.
Speaker 4: I look over there, I go, what are they putting
Speaker 4: hgh in the juice boxes? Like what is going on here?
Speaker 4: And I used to have a saying with these kids
Speaker 4: and the dug guy say, you know what, Bigger isn't better?
Speaker 4: Better is better? Go out there and be better on
Speaker 4: the field for sure? What is your mentality and how
Speaker 4: have you been able to be the point one percent
Speaker 4: of football players in the world just by making an
Speaker 4: NFL roster?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I've just been blessed. Man. When I
Speaker 7: go out there, like, regardless of stature, I feel like
Speaker 7: I played big, Like I really do. I feel like
Speaker 7: if you throw a ball my way, I can go
Speaker 7: up and high pointed, I can make people miss. I
Speaker 7: just felt like I play bigger than my size, man,
Speaker 7: and it's taking me a long way because.
Speaker 4: You're listened to at five seven one seventy five.
Speaker 7: Right, Yes, so I'm a little bigger than that, but you.
Speaker 4: Look like you put out a little wait huh.
Speaker 7: For sure, I've definitely hit the weight room a lot
Speaker 7: this off season. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4: But I remember you telling us last year in the
Speaker 4: Big Red Rage, you said, you know what, in a
Speaker 4: phone booth, I'll still make you miss.
Speaker 7: Yeh's no doubt you're not. I promise you won't touch me.
Speaker 4: Where does the confidence come from then? Uh?
Speaker 7: Myself, man, just the amount of work that I put in,
Speaker 7: and I really believe in myself, and I know that
Speaker 7: what's done in the dark will always come to Like, man,
Speaker 7: I'm always working, whether you see me or not, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna be the same guy.
Speaker 4: Because seriously, the other thing, what is your sophomore year
Speaker 4: at college? You were a first team All American return
Speaker 4: Specialists by like sports Illustrated Pro Football Focus. So I mean, yes,
Speaker 4: you defy the odds and you made it as an
Speaker 4: undrafted rookie, right yep. But then again, there you were
Speaker 4: at the combine and your roommate once upon a time,
Speaker 4: right was Hollywood Brow. How'd that go, by the way
Speaker 4: memory in that story, Yeah it was.
Speaker 7: I didn't know. So I got into the hotel room
Speaker 7: and uh, you know, Hollywood. He had a lot of
Speaker 7: media and pressed around him, so he wasn't really in
Speaker 7: the room that much. So I was in a room,
Speaker 7: uh really like eating peanut peep and J's and just
Speaker 7: trying to like up my weight for the combine. And
Speaker 7: then he walks in with this big old like bags
Speaker 7: of like Adida's gear and he got He's got all
Speaker 7: this gear. And I'm like, bro, what's up?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 7: And like he was like, bro, what's up? Like it
Speaker 7: was just crazy that we were roommates, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. Like we we've talked to each other, but
Speaker 7: like that was really like our first time getting a
Speaker 7: chance to hang out and it was just cool.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: It was cool. And now that we're teammates is just
Speaker 7: like it's just full circle.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 4: So tell us about the receiver room, especially now minus
Speaker 4: d Hot What is Drew Petsying? What is Drew Terrell?
Speaker 4: What do they want to see out of you? What
Speaker 4: do you think they envisioned as your role?
Speaker 7: Yeah, just just being that guy that they can rely on,
Speaker 7: Just being consistent with whenever my name's called. They know
Speaker 7: that I can play. It's all on film, So just
Speaker 7: getting adjusted to the new playbook. Can I don't know, man,
Speaker 7: Just being consistent and being the person that they want
Speaker 7: me to be in the right spots that they want
Speaker 7: me to be at.
Speaker 4: What is the best way to utilize your skill set?
Speaker 4: I mean, we saw you a lot of passes behind
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, a lot of sideline to side
Speaker 4: and sort of you know, horizontal stuff. But then you
Speaker 4: were effective when you were targeted downfield too. I mean,
Speaker 4: how would you draw things up to utilize your skill set?
Speaker 7: Uh, just call my number. It doesn't matter how you
Speaker 7: give it. Give me the ball. It could be a
Speaker 7: jet sweep, it could be U shoot. I'll take a
Speaker 7: handoff in the backfield. I just want the bottle my hands. Man,
Speaker 7: I feel I can make plays when the ball is
Speaker 7: in my hand.
Speaker 4: Greg Dorch is our guest here on the Big Red Rage.
Speaker 4: Earlier today, the media was allowed to watch one of
Speaker 4: the OTA sessions. It's a different vibe out there, isn't
Speaker 4: it with this new coaching staff.
Speaker 7: For sure. I love it though there they have everybody
Speaker 7: ready to go.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 7: The mentality is just a little bit different and it
Speaker 7: takes some time to get used to. But at the
Speaker 7: end of the day, man, you know that they just
Speaker 7: want to win. And if you want to win, then
Speaker 7: you you follow. You follow the leader.
Speaker 4: What would you say is key so far? And I
Speaker 4: know it's really early in the sort of culture that
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon is setting. And I'll just give you my
Speaker 4: quick takeaway. You know, we started this offseason and there
Speaker 4: was a move made in the head coaching and the
Speaker 4: GM spots and the owner Michael Bidwell made a comment
Speaker 4: that we have to address accountability. And when I watch
Speaker 4: some of what's going on in the field, there's no
Speaker 4: lack of accountability where guys, you know, I mean, coaches
Speaker 4: are being very vocal about what they want correct.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, and you man, you love that as a player, man,
Speaker 7: because not only are the coaches holding you accountable, but
Speaker 7: now your teammates. You see what I'm saying, Like, if
Speaker 7: I mess up on a router, something's just not right.
Speaker 7: I have teammates and brothers who can come up to
Speaker 7: me and I would listen. It's not a bigger back
Speaker 7: and forth and whether I'm right or he's wrong, or
Speaker 7: we're just all listening on the same page. Just trying
Speaker 7: to win, man, everybody just wants to win.
Speaker 4: Right, Let's play a little bit of true or false.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: The Cardinals offense will be much more balanced this year
Speaker 4: than the last couple of years. True or false?
Speaker 1: True?
Speaker 4: How much would a run game open up the pass game?
Speaker 4: Because look, I mean, I think it was pretty obvious
Speaker 4: the last few years that it was a pass first mentality.
Speaker 4: And we had Corey Clemen in here, We've got James
Speaker 4: Connor in here, we have offensive linemen. I mean, these
Speaker 4: guys are really looking forward to renewed emphasis on the run.
Speaker 7: Game for sure. Man. It just didn't make it a
Speaker 7: lot easier on the quarterbacks. Man. The run is big.
Speaker 7: The Titans run the ball the whole game, man, and
Speaker 7: then they'll play action and go above your head. So
Speaker 7: the run is important. Once you established a run game
Speaker 7: and you get all the backers and everybody coming up,
Speaker 7: that's when all the deep poss You got Ron Dell
Speaker 7: four to two, Hollywood four to two. You got all
Speaker 7: these speisters, man, So you run the ball, run the ball,
Speaker 7: run the ball, and you throw a play action in there.
Speaker 7: Now we're behind him, touchdown.
Speaker 4: Let me else get a fall up on Hollywood Brown
Speaker 4: real quick. When he went down Week six at Seattle,
Speaker 4: Tariq Walling him went down. He had the foot injury.
Speaker 4: He was top five, top seven and catches and receiving
Speaker 4: yards at that point.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was playing really good ball.
Speaker 4: What's the upside? Do you think? Still on Hollywood Brown?
Speaker 7: Man, he's so talented. Man, He's just he's a competitor.
Speaker 7: Every ball that's in the air is his.
Speaker 1: Yack.
Speaker 7: He's a he'll block, He's just he's just all around
Speaker 7: wide receiver, woeman. He's ready to go. I'm very excited
Speaker 7: and a proud teammate. I'm really excited to be like
Speaker 7: one of his teammates, bro and get to go to
Speaker 7: war with him.
Speaker 4: So how would you describe what you know of the
Speaker 4: offense so far in terms of mentality or style. I'm
Speaker 4: guessing it's gonna be much more of a straight ahead.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I honestly would say it's just a it's a
Speaker 7: mixture of a lot of things. Man, just play action.
Speaker 7: We can go in the shotgun. They're doing a they're
Speaker 7: doing a really good job of just throwing a throwing
Speaker 7: everything at the defense. Like you, you won't know.
Speaker 4: What's coming anybody out there catching your eye. And I've
Speaker 4: heard some good things about the undrafted rookie running back
Speaker 4: of Mario de Mercado number thirty one. Michael Wilson obviously
Speaker 4: the third rounder. He looks the part.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I love Michael's game. I think he'll be
Speaker 7: ready to go. He's a very creative guy, and he's
Speaker 7: very detail oriented, like he wants to be in a
Speaker 7: right spot. He wants to make sure everything's perfect. But
Speaker 7: another guy from a thirteen key trail. I might be
Speaker 7: a little biased because he's from Richmond, Virginia, and I've
Speaker 7: known him what I'm saying for a couple of years now,
Speaker 7: but he's a batherer.
Speaker 4: You were a high school state player of the Year
Speaker 4: in Virginia, right, remember Trace McSorley. He didn't take kindly
Speaker 4: to you, saying that your team would have whipped his
Speaker 4: team because this team went to like four straight state finals.
Speaker 4: He said, no, no chance.
Speaker 7: No, we probably would have beat them about twenty one.
Speaker 4: See, that's the full circle confidence we need, Greg's, that's
Speaker 4: the sort of confidence we need out there. Hey man,
Speaker 4: we're looking forward to it, seriously. What you did in
Speaker 4: August and I wo carry through the entire season. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to that. Just taking the next step
Speaker 4: this season. Appreciate the time, Yeah, man, I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: There you go. Receiver Greg dortsch Our guest. We continue
Speaker 4: with a big red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 4: We are sand tan forward, don't straight drop.
Speaker 3: Back throws over the middle and a one handed interception
Speaker 3: by Isaiah Simmons.
Speaker 4: A midfield runs.
Speaker 3: It back to the left of the morning pen, the
Speaker 3: learning pad, the twenty.
Speaker 6: Five pen, the twenty bed Simmons in fact, to con
Speaker 6: interceptive reparents, we're touchdown by the Cardinals.
Speaker 4: At the end of the half.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, what to play Isaiah Simmons just standing
Speaker 1: there in his own room on the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: There's that up four four of Isaiah Simmons touchdown.
Speaker 4: Maybe you see it all in that one play. You
Speaker 4: see the explosion, You see the hands, you see the
Speaker 4: playmaking nose for the football, You see his ability to finish,
Speaker 4: to be a game changer of playmaker Isaiah Simmons. Man,
Speaker 4: if this new Cardinals coaching staff can dial in the
Speaker 4: former first round pick and get him into form and
Speaker 4: find a spot for him in this defense where he
Speaker 4: can be a consistent four that will go a long
Speaker 4: way in twenty twenty three and the career of Isaiah Simmons,
Speaker 4: which in some ways hangs in the balance after the
Speaker 4: team elected not to pick up his fifth year option,
Speaker 4: so it is officially a contract year for Isaiah Simmons.
Speaker 4: It is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
Speaker 4: and Gilbert. We are santan Ford Special. Thanks to Greg
Speaker 4: Dorts for join us in the final. In that last segment,
Speaker 4: but as we go forward here we're going to talk
Speaker 4: about Isaiah Simmons. We'll get into the run game. But well,
Speaker 4: I mean when people ask you about the number eight
Speaker 4: pick in the draft once upon a time, Isaiah Simmons,
Speaker 4: where are you at with him in his career? And
Speaker 4: I use the word where in terms of where do
Speaker 4: you play him and where does he best fit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Paully, it really is. It is a
Speaker 1: tough question to answer right now. Listen, when Isaiah Simmons
Speaker 1: came out as a number eight pick, you know what
Speaker 1: I wanted them to do, Paully. I wanted to take
Speaker 1: him and stick him as the weak side inside linebacker
Speaker 1: and just leave him there. Just stick him as the
Speaker 1: weak side inside linebacker. Now that doesn't mean, obviously that
Speaker 1: on certain personnel groups and certain formations, if in fact
Speaker 1: you've got one running back and the other running back
Speaker 1: splits out, or you've got two tight ends and one
Speaker 1: tight end is on the line, the other one is
Speaker 1: off into the slot. That you're not going to move
Speaker 1: him off into the slot. You're not going to move
Speaker 1: him around. But you had to make it part of
Speaker 1: the weak side inside linebacker position. To me, I was
Speaker 1: saying it, Pauline, and you know that you can back
Speaker 1: me up on this, and I was saying that from
Speaker 1: the very beginning. Just stick him in one position and
Speaker 1: let him master that position. Let him be that guy.
Speaker 1: I need you to do A Isaiah, I need you
Speaker 1: to do B, C, and D. I need you to
Speaker 1: do those four things. Are you capable of mastering those
Speaker 1: four things? That's what I wanted to see from Isaiah
Speaker 1: simmons in. He's just too alluring for coaches. He's got
Speaker 1: everything you could possibly want from a football player. He's
Speaker 1: got length, he's got size, he's got incredible exceptional speed,
Speaker 1: he's got athleticism, he's got a brain. And because of
Speaker 1: all that, paul you want to move him around and
Speaker 1: turn him into this ex weapon. And unfortunately, I think
Speaker 1: it's only clouded the situation for Isaiah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think coaches have been intrigued by the fact
Speaker 4: that you really give a quarterback something to think about
Speaker 4: when they break the huddle. Where is number nine? Where
Speaker 4: is the X factor? Isaiah Simmons always playing inside weak side.
Speaker 4: Now he's on the edge. No, he's deep centerfield safety.
Speaker 4: Oh look, now he's in the slot. So to what
Speaker 4: degree was that a detriment for Isaiah Simmons himself and
Speaker 4: what does that mean now going forward into his fourth season,
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon was asked about his plan for Isaiah Simmons
Speaker 4: as we move forward.
Speaker 5: You know, I want to see him get comfortable in
Speaker 5: a couple of spots we're playing him. But he's obviously
Speaker 5: a very unique talent and he can do a lot
Speaker 5: of things for you defensively and schematically because he can
Speaker 5: match up with different people, and he's got a skill
Speaker 5: set that you know, he can cover slot, he can
Speaker 5: cover tight end, he can play stacked, he can play deep.
Speaker 5: So we're gonna try to use him the best way
Speaker 5: we can.
Speaker 4: Right, a couple of quick points, last year, in terms
Speaker 4: of percentage snaps played, slot corner was a position where
Speaker 4: he got the most action. Now, when he was drafted,
Speaker 4: I think we all remember that the decision makers at
Speaker 4: the time said he was drafted to cover the tight end,
Speaker 4: the George Kittles of the world, the Travis Kelsey's of
Speaker 4: the world. Obviously has the size and the speed to
Speaker 4: be able to do that. But then there's a comment
Speaker 4: that Vance Joseph, the Cardinals four year defensive coordinator, made
Speaker 4: at the end of last season about Isaiah Simmons, and
Speaker 4: he said, in unloosely quoting, that what they found is
Speaker 4: Isaiah Simmons is more designed to play in space as
Speaker 4: opposed to being in the box, and so hence I
Speaker 4: think that's why he's currently at safety. That position switch
Speaker 4: was made the start of last offseason. Is put into
Speaker 4: the safety room with Jael and Thompson, Buddhabaker, etc. And
Speaker 4: that's where he remains with this new regime.
Speaker 1: See Pauline, I'm so glad you brought that up, because
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. That's what happened right there instead of
Speaker 1: sticking him at the weak side inside linebacker in saying
Speaker 1: I need you to do a B in C and oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, A is be able to take on
Speaker 1: a block at the point of attack with good leverage,
Speaker 1: honor your gap, and be able to get off said
Speaker 1: block and make a play. I demand that's what you do,
Speaker 1: instead of just letting him go out there. And yeah,
Speaker 1: he's capable of doing it. He does it. And it
Speaker 1: was a consistency issue with Isaiah Simmons. Sometimes he would
Speaker 1: be able to do things and then other times he
Speaker 1: would not. You could move him to any different position,
Speaker 1: and sometimes he could do things and other times he
Speaker 1: could not. To me, he's got to be able to
Speaker 1: master the position, whatever that position is. And oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna need you to actually cover backs
Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield. If you're gonna play that
Speaker 1: weak side inside, we need that. We need you to
Speaker 1: also rush and be a good blitzer. We need you
Speaker 1: to do a B and C. And not only do
Speaker 1: we need you to do it, we demand that you
Speaker 1: do it. And instead of that, I think they just said, well,
Speaker 1: let's just find the best position for this guy because
Speaker 1: he can play. It was very interesting to hear that
Speaker 1: he can play here, he can play here, he can
Speaker 1: play there. But the question is, Paully should he play there?
Speaker 3: Hm?
Speaker 1: Why not put him in one spot and let him play?
Speaker 4: And the conundrum to all this is that when he
Speaker 4: was first drafted, what we all wonder oh man, does
Speaker 4: he look good in a uniform. He's like a unicorn.
Speaker 4: Look at that freak. Is he gonna come up and
Speaker 4: hit you? Is he gonna play with force and wolf?
Speaker 4: His rookie year, he did not hesitate. How many times
Speaker 4: did you site during a game, right, Paul?
Speaker 1: He didn't, I know, And that is the thing that
Speaker 1: is perplexing to me. Now I know that. Vance Joseph
Speaker 1: also said that his eyes, he had a problem with
Speaker 1: his eyes, that Isaiah Simmons would allow his eyes to
Speaker 1: get to him. And when you're playing at that second level,
Speaker 1: your eyes have got to send good and true messages
Speaker 1: to your brain. And that's where he would get tricked
Speaker 1: from time to time. It was with his eyes. But
Speaker 1: the one thing I know about Isaiah Simmons that fills
Speaker 1: me with hope for him that he's going to have
Speaker 1: a successful NFL career, PAULI is the fact that this
Speaker 1: guy is not afraid. He is not I've seen him.
Speaker 1: I've seen him take his face and stick it right
Speaker 1: into the fan, and in that tells me he's not afraid.
Speaker 1: So I think this is part of the demanding put
Speaker 1: him at a position and start making demands of a
Speaker 1: guy that is wildly talented and then see what happens.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Nick Rowlis, there's a new defensive coordinator in town.
Speaker 4: He was on your show, The Wolf of Luke Show
Speaker 4: this week in Arizona Sports ninety eight seven FM, and
Speaker 4: you guys talked about just letting Isaiah Simmons master one
Speaker 4: position initially.
Speaker 8: When you first arrive, you say, oh my god, this
Speaker 8: guy can do this, this guy can do this, this
Speaker 8: guy can do this, this guy can do this, and
Speaker 8: so a hang on, is that fair to the player?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 8: Let's make sure that whatever we ask him to do
Speaker 8: first he masters it.
Speaker 4: Yes, but every guy, especially.
Speaker 8: With a new scheme, needs a chance to get really
Speaker 8: comfortable with what is that one assignment in this call,
Speaker 8: in this call, In this call, I think if you
Speaker 8: try to master too many things initially at once, you
Speaker 8: don't master any of them.
Speaker 4: And that's really close to the point you've been trying
Speaker 4: to make the entire offseason, is it not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauly, I mean, for the most part, I've been
Speaker 1: talking about it his whole career. Isaiah Simmons. Let him
Speaker 1: master one position, put him there and again make the demands.
Speaker 1: I love what Nick just said. He just said, is
Speaker 1: it fair to the player? Yeah, he can do this poll, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can move all over the place, and that's so
Speaker 1: cool right there, But is it really fair to the player?
Speaker 1: Are we doing him a disservice by not allowing him
Speaker 1: to truly understand his job description and understand what it
Speaker 1: is we want him to do at one position before
Speaker 1: we start moving him around. And that, to me is
Speaker 1: what I think this staff is going to be bent
Speaker 1: on doing. They're doing it right now in OTAs of course,
Speaker 1: and into training camp. This is what we're going to
Speaker 1: see with Isaiah Simmons and we'll see where that goes.
Speaker 4: You know what else is interesting is when you first
Speaker 4: started the discussion with Nick Rollis about Isaiah Simmons and
Speaker 4: you asked for his initial takeaways, he said, well, as
Speaker 4: an outsider looking in, you realize, okay, he's one of
Speaker 4: the great athletes in the NFL. What I didn't realize
Speaker 4: un till I started working with Isaiah Simmons is quote,
Speaker 4: how in eligen he is. Yes, so the fact that
Speaker 4: he can master all these different positions, which, let's face it,
Speaker 4: a lot of players just wouldn't have the mental capacity
Speaker 4: to handle four, five, six different positions. Maybe can actually
Speaker 4: work to his own detriment because he's been doing this
Speaker 4: since his college career. He played a half dozen positions
Speaker 4: his last couple of years at Clemson. So maybe it's
Speaker 4: just a case of okay, he does know how to
Speaker 4: play him, at least in the playbook, but it's a
Speaker 4: lot different knowing it on the play scheme than executing
Speaker 4: it on the field. And so with that in mind,
Speaker 4: they reduce his job description and maybe that's how you
Speaker 4: get more production out of Isaiah Simmons. We'll see. My
Speaker 4: personal thought is he's staying at safety. You have Buddha Baker,
Speaker 4: you have Jalen Thompson. Who else did you sign in
Speaker 4: the offseason. I mean, he's your third safety. But we'll
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Speaker 4: twenty ten. The races inside the five and into the
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Speaker 6: James Connor houses it from twenty two yards out. That's
Speaker 6: the Cardinals run game, wearing down the defense in the
Speaker 6: fourth quarter, and it pays off with the first touchdown
Speaker 6: of the game.
Speaker 1: And it all started by putting the quarterback under center
Speaker 1: with twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends, run the ball,
Speaker 1: tackle zone concept. James Connor houses.
Speaker 4: It look nobody's created the laminated play sheet just yet.
Speaker 4: We're about one hundred days away from Week one at Washington.
Speaker 4: But Wolf, is there not enough anecdotal evidence players and
Speaker 4: coaches talking that it appears is that there will be
Speaker 4: renewed emphasis on the run game and if nothing else,
Speaker 4: the offense will be a lot more balanced defective this
Speaker 4: year under Jonathan Gan and Drew Petsing and company. It
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Speaker 4: that run game, are we not?
Speaker 1: Wolf? There's no doubt about it, Pauli. And it's one
Speaker 1: of the areas of the Arizona Colonel's musket. Better at
Speaker 1: run down situation first and ten second and one to six,
Speaker 1: you just got to be able to line up and
Speaker 1: hammer somebody with a downhill rushing attack, especially Paulie. When
Speaker 1: you got a guy like James Connor, you got a
Speaker 1: guy who's six to two hundred and thirty two to
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty five pounds somewhere in that vicinity, Pauli,
Speaker 1: you gotta let him get ahead of steam attacking that
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage because that makes that second level suck up.
Speaker 1: And paul Win, that second level sucks up because they're thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: my goodness, that's James Connor six two two thirty two.
Speaker 1: Coach is telling me about how this guy loves to
Speaker 1: run downhill and attack the line of scrimmage. You're gonna
Speaker 1: suck up and then we're gonna throw the ball right
Speaker 1: over your head on play action ball. That's the conundrum
Speaker 1: when you've got a big back that can attack the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And you know what too, I'll even
Speaker 1: say this, Pauli, Kyante ingram I, don't forget about this
Speaker 1: kid because Kyante ingram I like his mass. He's got
Speaker 1: a little butt to him right there, so does Corey
Speaker 1: Clement as well. Just being able to attack the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You're five two hundred and twenty five pounds, Hey,
Speaker 1: paul you try to tackle five, ten, two twenty five.
Speaker 1: It'll kill you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna turn that down. That's a business decision
Speaker 4: for me. I will not I will not be meeting
Speaker 4: that in the hole. I can tell you that right here,
Speaker 4: right now. Look, I asked James Connor today. First off,
Speaker 4: by the way he mentioned Kanty Ingram has definitely taken
Speaker 4: that year one to year two jump. And Ingram looks
Speaker 4: really good in this offseason and has excelled in the OTA.
Speaker 4: So that's in astute observation by you, that's backed up
Speaker 4: by James Connor. But I did ask Connor towards the
Speaker 4: end of his press conference today and my Paully pencil
Speaker 4: neck fashion, and I just said, look, there were a
Speaker 4: few games last year were you average over five yards
Speaker 4: of carry and you only got twelve or fifteen carries.
Speaker 4: Are you really looking forward to getting the rock more?
Speaker 4: And have you told the coaches you can double that
Speaker 4: sort of workload? And his answer was, and he he
Speaker 4: was deadly serious, he said, and I quote talk is cheap.
Speaker 4: He said, I haven't said anything to the coaches. Said
Speaker 4: you got to show it. You got to prove it
Speaker 4: on the practice field, you got to prove it in
Speaker 4: the league. He said, I'm just trying to set an
Speaker 4: example right now so they know they can see that
Speaker 4: I can carry the load and be a leader, etc.
Speaker 4: So there was that comment and then there was this
Speaker 4: answer when he was asked, what excites you about the
Speaker 4: Cardinals new offense that we're going to be running the
Speaker 4: ball a lot. Yeah, I love that. I just love it.
Speaker 7: I just love the possibilities of what it could be,
Speaker 7: the pieces we have, you know, just playing as one.
Speaker 4: That's what I love about. It is our message.
Speaker 7: That's the main thing I love about is our message,
Speaker 7: and that's playing as one.
Speaker 1: It's playing as one, Paully.
Speaker 4: It's not even what they say, it's the reaction when
Speaker 4: they're asked about the run game and the Cardinals offense.
Speaker 4: His reaction, the way he smiled Corey Clement when we
Speaker 4: had him in studio, right Wolf, I mean tight ends
Speaker 4: dream McBride, a twelve and thirteen personnel. I mean it's coming,
Speaker 4: tick talk.
Speaker 1: No, it is coming, Pully. And again the construction of
Speaker 1: this offensive line as well, when they went out and
Speaker 1: they signed Calvin Beacham and Will Hernandez, those two guys
Speaker 1: right there when they signed them back to this offensive line.
Speaker 1: It pretty much told me everything that we're going to
Speaker 1: see from this offense, because those are two power packed,
Speaker 1: really strong dudes at the point of attack Paris Johnson Junior.
Speaker 1: I don't know where they're going to start him out.
Speaker 1: I think i'd put him at left guard. That's where
Speaker 1: I'd put him on the left side, so he could
Speaker 1: move out to left tackle. Eventually.
Speaker 4: I got him in right tackle, by the way, just
Speaker 4: to let you know.
Speaker 1: That's right, Pauli. You do exactly, and maybe DJ Humphreys,
Speaker 1: being the dog he is, maybe he could flip over
Speaker 1: to right tackle. I don't know what they're going to
Speaker 1: do at some point in time. I love the offensive
Speaker 1: line and yelled to fro Hol too. It's so important
Speaker 1: that you have a center, PAULI, that understands the scheme
Speaker 1: like the offensive coordinator understands the scheme, because now he
Speaker 1: can make all the proper line calls and adjustments on
Speaker 1: the field in real time. Pauli. That's so important for
Speaker 1: your center to be capable of doing that. And fro
Speaker 1: Hold is and that's why it's going to be very interesting.
Speaker 1: If there's one guy and I know this is going
Speaker 1: to say surprise to you Paul. But if there's one
Speaker 1: guy that I want to follow that first day, it's
Speaker 1: going to be the offensive line group, but it's going
Speaker 1: to be fro Holt that I want to watch. I
Speaker 1: want to watch him Paul.
Speaker 4: Well, unless the rookie John Gaines has an unbelievable training camp,
Speaker 4: I'm guessing they're going with the older Frohold as your
Speaker 4: starting center. Has four years in the league. He played
Speaker 4: the position in a pinch for Cleveland last year. He
Speaker 4: held his own very well, and today in meeting the media,
Speaker 4: he was asked, Okay, you're the starting center as of
Speaker 4: right now from what we can tell, So what is
Speaker 4: the potential of the run game.
Speaker 9: We have a great backfield, you know, leading with JC there,
Speaker 9: and I do believe that we're putting a lot of
Speaker 9: emphasis on it, and I think Dolphins of Line is
Speaker 9: really to take that challenge. It's always going to be
Speaker 9: hard and I won't always be success, but I know
Speaker 9: that our guys are willing to work for it. Because
Speaker 9: if you have success in a round, it's also going
Speaker 9: to be easier for us to pass pro and it's
Speaker 9: gonna be easier for us to manage the game.
Speaker 7: So that's definitely a priority for us.
Speaker 4: He's already lost his voice, he said so, and so
Speaker 4: that's that's why it's all sourced right there.
Speaker 1: But look, because out there making all of the coles Polly.
Speaker 4: I'll say this, I mentioned some of my takeaways from
Speaker 4: OTAs today. The trenches, Okay, the line of scrimmage. I'll
Speaker 4: say Cardinals are thinner at D line than I think
Speaker 4: you realize. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't sign
Speaker 4: a veteran or two before training camp. We'll see. But
Speaker 4: I also think the Cardinals are deeper than I realized
Speaker 4: at offensive line. They got a lot of guys with
Speaker 4: a lot of experience, and they got some young guys
Speaker 4: coming up. The Marquise Hayes like last year who didn't play.
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a factor in that
Speaker 4: competition for guard. A lot of guys talking out good
Speaker 4: Josh Jones looks he's in a contract year. I mean
Speaker 4: there are I think they go about nine or ten
Speaker 4: deep right now in the offensive line. I don't think
Speaker 4: it's nearly the liability that maybe the national analysts believe.
Speaker 1: No, Paully, that is really an excellent observation by you
Speaker 1: right there. I forgot about Marquis Hayes. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: the talk of the training cap. You know he was.
Speaker 4: He was good for a fight every other day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really was. And that's okay if you're talking
Speaker 1: to my offensive lineman, because that's that's exactly what I want.
Speaker 1: Just brawl, buddy, Go ahead and drop it right now.
Speaker 1: And I'm really really excited, Paul. And one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why I'm excited about this team and this offense specifically,
Speaker 1: is because of the offensive line and because of Drew
Speaker 1: pettsing and what I think we're going to see. We're
Speaker 1: going to see a Cleveland Brown type offense being run here.
Speaker 1: And I can't wait for that, PAULI, because that's a mentality, brother,
Speaker 1: That is a mentality where you demand your offensive line
Speaker 1: comes off the ball and gets movement at the point
Speaker 1: of attack. And I don't care who you're playing against,
Speaker 1: I demand you do it. And you know what that means.
Speaker 1: There's going to be coaches out there elevating their voice
Speaker 1: and yelling from time to time. And I walked out
Speaker 1: and I heard practice, Paul, and I heard some yelling
Speaker 1: from coaches, and that felt really really good.
Speaker 4: You know what it was Kayzer White that talked about
Speaker 4: with you this week. I remember what he told you
Speaker 4: about Jonathan Gannon, because Kayser White knows them as well
Speaker 4: as anyone. And he said, some coaches tell you what
Speaker 4: you want to hear. That's not kg. Jonathan Gannon will
Speaker 4: tell you what you need to hear. And I can
Speaker 4: back that up just being out there today. There were
Speaker 4: a number of players who got lit up, who got
Speaker 4: held accountable. I'm just gonna tell you that right now.
Speaker 4: So there's that. And then what was interesting what Jalen
Speaker 4: Thompson said to the media today about Nick Rolis. For example,
Speaker 4: he said an I quote he lets the players be
Speaker 4: a little more free on defense. Interesting, okay. And then,
Speaker 4: because everybody wants the quarterback news, Clayton Tone, I'm expecting
Speaker 4: him to get a lot of reps when we get
Speaker 4: the camp. Jonathan Gannon gave three takeaways so far. Number One,
Speaker 4: he's not scared to fit the ball into tight windows. Two,
Speaker 4: his handle of the offense has impressed the coaches. His
Speaker 4: football like you. Number Three, he plays the position of
Speaker 4: the way it should be played with confidence and command.
Speaker 4: Clayton Tune. So we'll see what he's all about. Because
Speaker 4: Remember we'll see behind Cole McCoy there are two journeymen,
Speaker 4: so he's got every single chance to make an impression,
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