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Speaker 1: Doesn't get any better than that. Leash the fjord.

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Speaker 4: It's June first, and that means we are another month

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Speaker 4: closer to NFL football, almost exactly one hundred days away

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Speaker 4: from Week one at Washington, Oh Boy And after today's Ota,

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Speaker 4: Ron Wolfy new head coach Jonathan Gannon was asked about

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Speaker 4: do quote. If you want to get better at football,

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Speaker 4: play football end quote. Jonathan Gannon as at Cardinals practice

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Speaker 4: field is akin to a construction zone these days. The

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Speaker 1: Paully so jacked up right now because as you can imagine,

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Speaker 1: of course, these OTAs, they're not just like some other

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Speaker 1: they've got a brand new regime. They've got a brand

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, I have it right here

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Speaker 4: After the Cardinals to begin well the Memorial Day weekend,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a headline right now, Pauline. Of course,

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Speaker 5: Obviously he's a great player. You know, with the guys

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Speaker 1: I'm really comfortable, Paully, because once again, you're going to

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Speaker 4: And it's going to be different on game day. DeAndre

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Speaker 4: Here's Jonathan Gannon on that challenge.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not really looking to replace d hop

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Speaker 5: What I'm looking for is us to play together winning

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, first of all, once again, because the Arizona

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Speaker 4: Plas, make plays, make the team. It just started in

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Speaker 7: Honestly, it was it's just the name of the game

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Speaker 7: Right, yes, sir, you never know when your numbers gonna

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Speaker 4: How many times have you heard the following, Yeah, you're

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Speaker 4: Because seriously, the other thing, what is your sophomore year

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Speaker 4: Earlier today, the media was allowed to watch one of

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Speaker 7: For sure. I love it though there they have everybody

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Speaker 7: me and I would listen. It's not a bigger back

434
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Speaker 7: and forth and whether I'm right or he's wrong, or

435
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Speaker 7: we're just all listening on the same page. Just trying

436
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Speaker 7: to win, man, everybody just wants to win.

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Speaker 4: Right, Let's play a little bit of true or false.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: The Cardinals offense will be much more balanced this year

440
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Speaker 4: than the last couple of years. True or false?

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Speaker 1: True?

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Speaker 4: How much would a run game open up the pass game?

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Speaker 4: Because look, I mean, I think it was pretty obvious

444
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Speaker 4: the last few years that it was a pass first mentality.

445
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Speaker 4: And we had Corey Clemen in here, We've got James

446
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Speaker 4: Connor in here, we have offensive linemen. I mean, these

447
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Speaker 4: guys are really looking forward to renewed emphasis on the run.

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Speaker 7: Game for sure. Man. It just didn't make it a

449
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Speaker 7: lot easier on the quarterbacks. Man. The run is big.

450
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Speaker 7: The Titans run the ball the whole game, man, and

451
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Speaker 7: then they'll play action and go above your head. So

452
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Speaker 7: the run is important. Once you established a run game

453
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Speaker 7: and you get all the backers and everybody coming up,

454
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Speaker 7: that's when all the deep poss You got Ron Dell

455
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Speaker 7: four to two, Hollywood four to two. You got all

456
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Speaker 7: these speisters, man, So you run the ball, run the ball,

457
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Speaker 7: run the ball, and you throw a play action in there.

458
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Speaker 7: Now we're behind him, touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Let me else get a fall up on Hollywood Brown

460
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Speaker 4: real quick. When he went down Week six at Seattle,

461
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Speaker 4: Tariq Walling him went down. He had the foot injury.

462
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Speaker 4: He was top five, top seven and catches and receiving

463
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Speaker 4: yards at that point.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he was playing really good ball.

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Speaker 4: What's the upside? Do you think? Still on Hollywood Brown?

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Speaker 7: Man, he's so talented. Man, He's just he's a competitor.

467
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Speaker 7: Every ball that's in the air is his.

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Speaker 1: Yack.

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Speaker 7: He's a he'll block, He's just he's just all around

470
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Speaker 7: wide receiver, woeman. He's ready to go. I'm very excited

471
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Speaker 7: and a proud teammate. I'm really excited to be like

472
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Speaker 7: one of his teammates, bro and get to go to

473
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Speaker 7: war with him.

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Speaker 4: So how would you describe what you know of the

475
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Speaker 4: offense so far in terms of mentality or style. I'm

476
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Speaker 4: guessing it's gonna be much more of a straight ahead.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I honestly would say it's just a it's a

478
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Speaker 7: mixture of a lot of things. Man, just play action.

479
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Speaker 7: We can go in the shotgun. They're doing a they're

480
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Speaker 7: doing a really good job of just throwing a throwing

481
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Speaker 7: everything at the defense. Like you, you won't know.

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Speaker 4: What's coming anybody out there catching your eye. And I've

483
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Speaker 4: heard some good things about the undrafted rookie running back

484
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Speaker 4: of Mario de Mercado number thirty one. Michael Wilson obviously

485
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Speaker 4: the third rounder. He looks the part.

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I love Michael's game. I think he'll be

487
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Speaker 7: ready to go. He's a very creative guy, and he's

488
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Speaker 7: very detail oriented, like he wants to be in a

489
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Speaker 7: right spot. He wants to make sure everything's perfect. But

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Speaker 7: another guy from a thirteen key trail. I might be

491
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Speaker 7: a little biased because he's from Richmond, Virginia, and I've

492
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Speaker 7: known him what I'm saying for a couple of years now,

493
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Speaker 7: but he's a batherer.

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Speaker 4: You were a high school state player of the Year

495
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Speaker 4: in Virginia, right, remember Trace McSorley. He didn't take kindly

496
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Speaker 4: to you, saying that your team would have whipped his

497
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Speaker 4: team because this team went to like four straight state finals.

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Speaker 4: He said, no, no chance.

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Speaker 7: No, we probably would have beat them about twenty one.

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Speaker 4: See, that's the full circle confidence we need, Greg's, that's

501
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Speaker 4: the sort of confidence we need out there. Hey man,

502
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Speaker 4: we're looking forward to it, seriously. What you did in

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Speaker 4: August and I wo carry through the entire season. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to that. Just taking the next step

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Speaker 4: this season. Appreciate the time, Yeah, man, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: There you go. Receiver Greg dortsch Our guest. We continue

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Speaker 4: with a big red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 4: We are sand tan forward, don't straight drop.

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Speaker 3: Back throws over the middle and a one handed interception

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Speaker 3: by Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 4: A midfield runs.

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Speaker 3: It back to the left of the morning pen, the

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Speaker 3: learning pad, the twenty.

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Speaker 6: Five pen, the twenty bed Simmons in fact, to con

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Speaker 6: interceptive reparents, we're touchdown by the Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the half.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, what to play Isaiah Simmons just standing

518
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Speaker 1: there in his own room on the middle of the field.

519
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Speaker 1: There's that up four four of Isaiah Simmons touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you see it all in that one play. You

521
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Speaker 4: see the explosion, You see the hands, you see the

522
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Speaker 4: playmaking nose for the football, You see his ability to finish,

523
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Speaker 4: to be a game changer of playmaker Isaiah Simmons. Man,

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Speaker 4: if this new Cardinals coaching staff can dial in the

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Speaker 4: former first round pick and get him into form and

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Speaker 4: find a spot for him in this defense where he

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Speaker 4: can be a consistent four that will go a long

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Speaker 4: way in twenty twenty three and the career of Isaiah Simmons,

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Speaker 4: which in some ways hangs in the balance after the

530
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Speaker 4: team elected not to pick up his fifth year option,

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Speaker 4: so it is officially a contract year for Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 4: It is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

533
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Speaker 4: and Gilbert. We are santan Ford Special. Thanks to Greg

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Speaker 4: Dorts for join us in the final. In that last segment,

535
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Speaker 4: but as we go forward here we're going to talk

536
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Speaker 4: about Isaiah Simmons. We'll get into the run game. But well,

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Speaker 4: I mean when people ask you about the number eight

538
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Speaker 4: pick in the draft once upon a time, Isaiah Simmons,

539
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Speaker 4: where are you at with him in his career? And

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Speaker 4: I use the word where in terms of where do

541
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Speaker 4: you play him and where does he best fit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Paully, it really is. It is a

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Speaker 1: tough question to answer right now. Listen, when Isaiah Simmons

544
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Speaker 1: came out as a number eight pick, you know what

545
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Speaker 1: I wanted them to do, Paully. I wanted to take

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Speaker 1: him and stick him as the weak side inside linebacker

547
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Speaker 1: and just leave him there. Just stick him as the

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Speaker 1: weak side inside linebacker. Now that doesn't mean, obviously that

549
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Speaker 1: on certain personnel groups and certain formations, if in fact

550
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Speaker 1: you've got one running back and the other running back

551
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Speaker 1: splits out, or you've got two tight ends and one

552
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Speaker 1: tight end is on the line, the other one is

553
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Speaker 1: off into the slot. That you're not going to move

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Speaker 1: him off into the slot. You're not going to move

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Speaker 1: him around. But you had to make it part of

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Speaker 1: the weak side inside linebacker position. To me, I was

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Speaker 1: saying it, Pauline, and you know that you can back

558
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Speaker 1: me up on this, and I was saying that from

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Speaker 1: the very beginning. Just stick him in one position and

560
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Speaker 1: let him master that position. Let him be that guy.

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Speaker 1: I need you to do A Isaiah, I need you

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Speaker 1: to do B, C, and D. I need you to

563
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Speaker 1: do those four things. Are you capable of mastering those

564
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Speaker 1: four things? That's what I wanted to see from Isaiah

565
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Speaker 1: simmons in. He's just too alluring for coaches. He's got

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Speaker 1: everything you could possibly want from a football player. He's

567
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Speaker 1: got length, he's got size, he's got incredible exceptional speed,

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Speaker 1: he's got athleticism, he's got a brain. And because of

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Speaker 1: all that, paul you want to move him around and

570
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Speaker 1: turn him into this ex weapon. And unfortunately, I think

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Speaker 1: it's only clouded the situation for Isaiah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think coaches have been intrigued by the fact

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Speaker 4: that you really give a quarterback something to think about

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Speaker 4: when they break the huddle. Where is number nine? Where

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Speaker 4: is the X factor? Isaiah Simmons always playing inside weak side.

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Speaker 4: Now he's on the edge. No, he's deep centerfield safety.

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Speaker 4: Oh look, now he's in the slot. So to what

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Speaker 4: degree was that a detriment for Isaiah Simmons himself and

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Speaker 4: what does that mean now going forward into his fourth season,

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon was asked about his plan for Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 4: as we move forward.

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Speaker 5: You know, I want to see him get comfortable in

583
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Speaker 5: a couple of spots we're playing him. But he's obviously

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Speaker 5: a very unique talent and he can do a lot

585
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Speaker 5: of things for you defensively and schematically because he can

586
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Speaker 5: match up with different people, and he's got a skill

587
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Speaker 5: set that you know, he can cover slot, he can

588
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Speaker 5: cover tight end, he can play stacked, he can play deep.

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna try to use him the best way

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Speaker 5: we can.

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Speaker 4: Right, a couple of quick points, last year, in terms

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Speaker 4: of percentage snaps played, slot corner was a position where

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Speaker 4: he got the most action. Now, when he was drafted,

594
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Speaker 4: I think we all remember that the decision makers at

595
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Speaker 4: the time said he was drafted to cover the tight end,

596
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Speaker 4: the George Kittles of the world, the Travis Kelsey's of

597
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Speaker 4: the world. Obviously has the size and the speed to

598
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Speaker 4: be able to do that. But then there's a comment

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Speaker 4: that Vance Joseph, the Cardinals four year defensive coordinator, made

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Speaker 4: at the end of last season about Isaiah Simmons, and

601
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Speaker 4: he said, in unloosely quoting, that what they found is

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Speaker 4: Isaiah Simmons is more designed to play in space as

603
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Speaker 4: opposed to being in the box, and so hence I

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Speaker 4: think that's why he's currently at safety. That position switch

605
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Speaker 4: was made the start of last offseason. Is put into

606
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Speaker 4: the safety room with Jael and Thompson, Buddhabaker, etc. And

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Speaker 4: that's where he remains with this new regime.

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Speaker 1: See Pauline, I'm so glad you brought that up, because

609
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Speaker 1: that's exactly right. That's what happened right there instead of

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Speaker 1: sticking him at the weak side inside linebacker in saying

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Speaker 1: I need you to do a B in C and oh,

612
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Speaker 1: by the way, A is be able to take on

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Speaker 1: a block at the point of attack with good leverage,

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Speaker 1: honor your gap, and be able to get off said

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Speaker 1: block and make a play. I demand that's what you do,

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Speaker 1: instead of just letting him go out there. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's capable of doing it. He does it. And it

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Speaker 1: was a consistency issue with Isaiah Simmons. Sometimes he would

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Speaker 1: be able to do things and then other times he

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Speaker 1: would not. You could move him to any different position,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes he could do things and other times he

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Speaker 1: could not. To me, he's got to be able to

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Speaker 1: master the position, whatever that position is. And oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna need you to actually cover backs

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Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield. If you're gonna play that

626
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Speaker 1: weak side inside, we need that. We need you to

627
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Speaker 1: also rush and be a good blitzer. We need you

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Speaker 1: to do a B and C. And not only do

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Speaker 1: we need you to do it, we demand that you

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Speaker 1: do it. And instead of that, I think they just said, well,

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Speaker 1: let's just find the best position for this guy because

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Speaker 1: he can play. It was very interesting to hear that

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00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: he can play here, he can play here, he can

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Speaker 1: play there. But the question is, Paully should he play there?

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Speaker 3: Hm?

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Speaker 1: Why not put him in one spot and let him play?

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Speaker 4: And the conundrum to all this is that when he

638
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Speaker 4: was first drafted, what we all wonder oh man, does

639
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Speaker 4: he look good in a uniform. He's like a unicorn.

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Speaker 4: Look at that freak. Is he gonna come up and

641
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Speaker 4: hit you? Is he gonna play with force and wolf?

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Speaker 4: His rookie year, he did not hesitate. How many times

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Speaker 4: did you site during a game, right, Paul?

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Speaker 1: He didn't, I know, And that is the thing that

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Speaker 1: is perplexing to me. Now I know that. Vance Joseph

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Speaker 1: also said that his eyes, he had a problem with

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Speaker 1: his eyes, that Isaiah Simmons would allow his eyes to

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Speaker 1: get to him. And when you're playing at that second level,

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Speaker 1: your eyes have got to send good and true messages

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Speaker 1: to your brain. And that's where he would get tricked

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Speaker 1: from time to time. It was with his eyes. But

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Speaker 1: the one thing I know about Isaiah Simmons that fills

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Speaker 1: me with hope for him that he's going to have

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Speaker 1: a successful NFL career, PAULI is the fact that this

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Speaker 1: guy is not afraid. He is not I've seen him.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him take his face and stick it right

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Speaker 1: into the fan, and in that tells me he's not afraid.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is part of the demanding put

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Speaker 1: him at a position and start making demands of a

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Speaker 1: guy that is wildly talented and then see what happens.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Nick Rowlis, there's a new defensive coordinator in town.

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Speaker 4: He was on your show, The Wolf of Luke Show

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Speaker 4: this week in Arizona Sports ninety eight seven FM, and

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Speaker 4: you guys talked about just letting Isaiah Simmons master one

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Speaker 4: position initially.

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Speaker 8: When you first arrive, you say, oh my god, this

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Speaker 8: guy can do this, this guy can do this, this

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Speaker 8: guy can do this, this guy can do this, and

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Speaker 8: so a hang on, is that fair to the player?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 8: Let's make sure that whatever we ask him to do

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Speaker 8: first he masters it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but every guy, especially.

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Speaker 8: With a new scheme, needs a chance to get really

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Speaker 8: comfortable with what is that one assignment in this call,

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Speaker 8: in this call, In this call, I think if you

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Speaker 8: try to master too many things initially at once, you

678
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Speaker 8: don't master any of them.

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Speaker 4: And that's really close to the point you've been trying

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Speaker 4: to make the entire offseason, is it not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauly, I mean, for the most part, I've been

682
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Speaker 1: talking about it his whole career. Isaiah Simmons. Let him

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Speaker 1: master one position, put him there and again make the demands.

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Speaker 1: I love what Nick just said. He just said, is

685
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Speaker 1: it fair to the player? Yeah, he can do this poll, Yeah,

686
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Speaker 1: he can move all over the place, and that's so

687
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Speaker 1: cool right there, But is it really fair to the player?

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Speaker 1: Are we doing him a disservice by not allowing him

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Speaker 1: to truly understand his job description and understand what it

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Speaker 1: is we want him to do at one position before

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Speaker 1: we start moving him around. And that, to me is

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Speaker 1: what I think this staff is going to be bent

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Speaker 1: on doing. They're doing it right now in OTAs of course,

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Speaker 1: and into training camp. This is what we're going to

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Speaker 1: see with Isaiah Simmons and we'll see where that goes.

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Speaker 4: You know what else is interesting is when you first

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Speaker 4: started the discussion with Nick Rollis about Isaiah Simmons and

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Speaker 4: you asked for his initial takeaways, he said, well, as

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Speaker 4: an outsider looking in, you realize, okay, he's one of

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Speaker 4: the great athletes in the NFL. What I didn't realize

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Speaker 4: un till I started working with Isaiah Simmons is quote,

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Speaker 4: how in eligen he is. Yes, so the fact that

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Speaker 4: he can master all these different positions, which, let's face it,

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Speaker 4: a lot of players just wouldn't have the mental capacity

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Speaker 4: to handle four, five, six different positions. Maybe can actually

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Speaker 4: work to his own detriment because he's been doing this

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Speaker 4: since his college career. He played a half dozen positions

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Speaker 4: his last couple of years at Clemson. So maybe it's

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Speaker 4: just a case of okay, he does know how to

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Speaker 4: play him, at least in the playbook, but it's a

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Speaker 4: lot different knowing it on the play scheme than executing

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Speaker 4: it on the field. And so with that in mind,

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Speaker 4: they reduce his job description and maybe that's how you

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Speaker 4: get more production out of Isaiah Simmons. We'll see. My

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Speaker 4: personal thought is he's staying at safety. You have Buddha Baker,

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Speaker 4: you have Jalen Thompson. Who else did you sign in

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Speaker 4: the offseason. I mean, he's your third safety. But we'll

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Speaker 4: see what they do. Single game tickets on sale now.

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Speaker 4: Go to Azycardinals dot com slash buy tickets to secure

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Speaker 4: your seats today. Their run game is next on the

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Speaker 4: Big Red Raid presented by Santan Ford. In Gilbert second

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Speaker 4: down and ten man in motion is Dorg Nicksley under center,

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Speaker 4: give to Connor looking left, runs off tackle left side

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Speaker 4: twenty ten. The races inside the five and into the

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Speaker 4: end zone.

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Speaker 6: James Connor houses it from twenty two yards out. That's

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Speaker 6: the Cardinals run game, wearing down the defense in the

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Speaker 6: fourth quarter, and it pays off with the first touchdown

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Speaker 6: of the game.

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Speaker 1: And it all started by putting the quarterback under center

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Speaker 1: with twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends, run the ball,

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Speaker 1: tackle zone concept. James Connor houses.

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Speaker 4: It look nobody's created the laminated play sheet just yet.

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Speaker 4: We're about one hundred days away from Week one at Washington.

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Speaker 4: But Wolf, is there not enough anecdotal evidence players and

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Speaker 4: coaches talking that it appears is that there will be

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Speaker 4: renewed emphasis on the run game and if nothing else,

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Speaker 4: the offense will be a lot more balanced defective this

739
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Speaker 4: year under Jonathan Gan and Drew Petsing and company. It

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Speaker 4: is a big red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.

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Speaker 4: We are santan Ford and we are looking forward to

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Speaker 4: that run game, are we not?

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Speaker 1: Wolf? There's no doubt about it, Pauli. And it's one

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Speaker 1: of the areas of the Arizona Colonel's musket. Better at

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Speaker 1: run down situation first and ten second and one to six,

746
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Speaker 1: you just got to be able to line up and

747
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Speaker 1: hammer somebody with a downhill rushing attack, especially Paulie. When

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Speaker 1: you got a guy like James Connor, you got a

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Speaker 1: guy who's six to two hundred and thirty two to

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty five pounds somewhere in that vicinity, Pauli,

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Speaker 1: you gotta let him get ahead of steam attacking that

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage because that makes that second level suck up.

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Speaker 1: And paul Win, that second level sucks up because they're thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, that's James Connor six two two thirty two.

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Speaker 1: Coach is telling me about how this guy loves to

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Speaker 1: run downhill and attack the line of scrimmage. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: suck up and then we're gonna throw the ball right

758
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Speaker 1: over your head on play action ball. That's the conundrum

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Speaker 1: when you've got a big back that can attack the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And you know what too, I'll even

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Speaker 1: say this, Pauli, Kyante ingram I, don't forget about this

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Speaker 1: kid because Kyante ingram I like his mass. He's got

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Speaker 1: a little butt to him right there, so does Corey

764
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Speaker 1: Clement as well. Just being able to attack the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You're five two hundred and twenty five pounds, Hey,

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Speaker 1: paul you try to tackle five, ten, two twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It'll kill you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna turn that down. That's a business decision

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Speaker 4: for me. I will not I will not be meeting

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Speaker 4: that in the hole. I can tell you that right here,

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Speaker 4: right now. Look, I asked James Connor today. First off,

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Speaker 4: by the way he mentioned Kanty Ingram has definitely taken

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Speaker 4: that year one to year two jump. And Ingram looks

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Speaker 4: really good in this offseason and has excelled in the OTA.

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Speaker 4: So that's in astute observation by you, that's backed up

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Speaker 4: by James Connor. But I did ask Connor towards the

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Speaker 4: end of his press conference today and my Paully pencil

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Speaker 4: neck fashion, and I just said, look, there were a

779
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Speaker 4: few games last year were you average over five yards

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Speaker 4: of carry and you only got twelve or fifteen carries.

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Speaker 4: Are you really looking forward to getting the rock more?

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Speaker 4: And have you told the coaches you can double that

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Speaker 4: sort of workload? And his answer was, and he he

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Speaker 4: was deadly serious, he said, and I quote talk is cheap.

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Speaker 4: He said, I haven't said anything to the coaches. Said

786
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Speaker 4: you got to show it. You got to prove it

787
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Speaker 4: on the practice field, you got to prove it in

788
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Speaker 4: the league. He said, I'm just trying to set an

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Speaker 4: example right now so they know they can see that

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Speaker 4: I can carry the load and be a leader, etc.

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Speaker 4: So there was that comment and then there was this

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Speaker 4: answer when he was asked, what excites you about the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals new offense that we're going to be running the

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Speaker 4: ball a lot. Yeah, I love that. I just love it.

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Speaker 7: I just love the possibilities of what it could be,

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Speaker 7: the pieces we have, you know, just playing as one.

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Speaker 4: That's what I love about. It is our message.

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Speaker 7: That's the main thing I love about is our message,

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Speaker 7: and that's playing as one.

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Speaker 1: It's playing as one, Paully.

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Speaker 4: It's not even what they say, it's the reaction when

802
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Speaker 4: they're asked about the run game and the Cardinals offense.

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Speaker 4: His reaction, the way he smiled Corey Clement when we

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Speaker 4: had him in studio, right Wolf, I mean tight ends

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Speaker 4: dream McBride, a twelve and thirteen personnel. I mean it's coming,

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Speaker 4: tick talk.

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Speaker 1: No, it is coming, Pully. And again the construction of

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Speaker 1: this offensive line as well, when they went out and

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Speaker 1: they signed Calvin Beacham and Will Hernandez, those two guys

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Speaker 1: right there when they signed them back to this offensive line.

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Speaker 1: It pretty much told me everything that we're going to

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Speaker 1: see from this offense, because those are two power packed,

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Speaker 1: really strong dudes at the point of attack Paris Johnson Junior.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where they're going to start him out.

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Speaker 1: I think i'd put him at left guard. That's where

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Speaker 1: I'd put him on the left side, so he could

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Speaker 1: move out to left tackle. Eventually.

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Speaker 4: I got him in right tackle, by the way, just

819
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Speaker 4: to let you know.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Pauli. You do exactly, and maybe DJ Humphreys,

821
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Speaker 1: being the dog he is, maybe he could flip over

822
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Speaker 1: to right tackle. I don't know what they're going to

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Speaker 1: do at some point in time. I love the offensive

824
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Speaker 1: line and yelled to fro Hol too. It's so important

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Speaker 1: that you have a center, PAULI, that understands the scheme

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Speaker 1: like the offensive coordinator understands the scheme, because now he

827
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Speaker 1: can make all the proper line calls and adjustments on

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Speaker 1: the field in real time. Pauli. That's so important for

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Speaker 1: your center to be capable of doing that. And fro

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Speaker 1: Hold is and that's why it's going to be very interesting.

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Speaker 1: If there's one guy and I know this is going

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Speaker 1: to say surprise to you Paul. But if there's one

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Speaker 1: guy that I want to follow that first day, it's

834
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Speaker 1: going to be the offensive line group, but it's going

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Speaker 1: to be fro Holt that I want to watch. I

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Speaker 1: want to watch him Paul.

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Speaker 4: Well, unless the rookie John Gaines has an unbelievable training camp,

838
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Speaker 4: I'm guessing they're going with the older Frohold as your

839
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Speaker 4: starting center. Has four years in the league. He played

840
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Speaker 4: the position in a pinch for Cleveland last year. He

841
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Speaker 4: held his own very well, and today in meeting the media,

842
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Speaker 4: he was asked, Okay, you're the starting center as of

843
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Speaker 4: right now from what we can tell, So what is

844
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Speaker 4: the potential of the run game.

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Speaker 9: We have a great backfield, you know, leading with JC there,

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Speaker 9: and I do believe that we're putting a lot of

847
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Speaker 9: emphasis on it, and I think Dolphins of Line is

848
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Speaker 9: really to take that challenge. It's always going to be

849
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Speaker 9: hard and I won't always be success, but I know

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Speaker 9: that our guys are willing to work for it. Because

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Speaker 9: if you have success in a round, it's also going

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Speaker 9: to be easier for us to pass pro and it's

853
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Speaker 9: gonna be easier for us to manage the game.

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Speaker 7: So that's definitely a priority for us.

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Speaker 4: He's already lost his voice, he said so, and so

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Speaker 4: that's that's why it's all sourced right there.

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Speaker 1: But look, because out there making all of the coles Polly.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, I mentioned some of my takeaways from

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Speaker 4: OTAs today. The trenches, Okay, the line of scrimmage. I'll

860
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Speaker 4: say Cardinals are thinner at D line than I think

861
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Speaker 4: you realize. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't sign

862
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Speaker 4: a veteran or two before training camp. We'll see. But

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Speaker 4: I also think the Cardinals are deeper than I realized

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Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a factor in that

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Speaker 4: competition for guard. A lot of guys talking out good

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Speaker 4: Josh Jones looks he's in a contract year. I mean

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Speaker 4: there are I think they go about nine or ten

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Speaker 4: deep right now in the offensive line. I don't think

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Speaker 4: it's nearly the liability that maybe the national analysts believe.

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Speaker 1: No, Paully, that is really an excellent observation by you

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Speaker 1: right there. I forgot about Marquis Hayes. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: the talk of the training cap. You know he was.

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Speaker 4: He was good for a fight every other day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he really was. And that's okay if you're talking

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Speaker 1: to my offensive lineman, because that's that's exactly what I want.

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Speaker 1: Just brawl, buddy, Go ahead and drop it right now.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really really excited, Paul. And one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons why I'm excited about this team and this offense specifically,

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Speaker 1: is because of the offensive line and because of Drew

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Speaker 1: pettsing and what I think we're going to see. We're

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Speaker 1: going to see a Cleveland Brown type offense being run here.

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait for that, PAULI, because that's a mentality, brother,

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Speaker 1: That is a mentality where you demand your offensive line

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Speaker 1: of attack. And I don't care who you're playing against,

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Speaker 1: I demand you do it. And you know what that means.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be coaches out there elevating their voice

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Speaker 1: and yelling from time to time. And I walked out

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Speaker 1: and I heard practice, Paul, and I heard some yelling

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Speaker 1: from coaches, and that felt really really good.

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Speaker 4: You know what it was Kayzer White that talked about

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Speaker 4: with you this week. I remember what he told you

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Speaker 4: about Jonathan Gannon, because Kayser White knows them as well

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Speaker 4: as anyone. And he said, some coaches tell you what

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Speaker 4: you want to hear. That's not kg. Jonathan Gannon will

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Speaker 4: tell you what you need to hear. And I can

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Speaker 4: back that up just being out there today. There were

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Speaker 4: a number of players who got lit up, who got

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Speaker 4: held accountable. I'm just gonna tell you that right now.

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Speaker 4: So there's that. And then what was interesting what Jalen

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Speaker 4: Thompson said to the media today about Nick Rolis. For example,

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Speaker 4: he said an I quote he lets the players be

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Speaker 4: a little more free on defense. Interesting, okay. And then,

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Speaker 4: because everybody wants the quarterback news, Clayton Tone, I'm expecting

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Speaker 4: him to get a lot of reps when we get

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Speaker 4: the camp. Jonathan Gannon gave three takeaways so far. Number One,

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Speaker 4: he's not scared to fit the ball into tight windows. Two,

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Speaker 4: his handle of the offense has impressed the coaches. His

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Speaker 4: football like you. Number Three, he plays the position of

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Speaker 4: the way it should be played with confidence and command.

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Speaker 4: Clayton Tune. So we'll see what he's all about. Because

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Speaker 4: Remember we'll see behind Cole McCoy there are two journeymen,

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