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Speaker 1: Well, Hello there, Emily a body here checking in with

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Speaker 1: episode eighty seven of Hurdle, a podcast that talks to

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Speaker 2: All righty, Katie Storreno.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you follow Katie on Instagram it's just her

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Speaker 1: and I really appreciated how upfront and honest. The megababe

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Speaker 1: She says to me in today's episode that for so

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Speaker 1: Megababe came to be if we chat about the make

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Speaker 1: I a huge thanks to my friends at Moss for

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Speaker 1: the recording space, and as always, you guys know the

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Speaker 1: drill at Emily Body at Hurdle podcast. If you have

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with Katie Strino.

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Speaker 1: She is a body positive activist that sounds so jazzy

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Speaker 2: Hello, it's so lovely to have you here.

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Speaker 3: That's because I think you look like Megan Markle and

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Speaker 3: I don't think any I don't think anything could go

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Speaker 1: when we sat down, I said, what do you describe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love you, told Glamour.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly it is. You can make a choice

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Speaker 1: Done right, Yeah, what are you doing in your career

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Speaker 3: I'm just starting to focus more on the twelveish style,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's dive into both of these things a

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Speaker 3: But yeah, like the dog thing was really special and

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Speaker 3: Yes, I just had to take We were doing a

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Speaker 3: No, it's just male dogs, puppy mal dogs often have

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Speaker 3: I don't know underpants. She was our Japanese chin. She

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Speaker 2: All right, well, then bring me now to the twelve

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Speaker 3: I started the again. I started this Instagram because I

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Speaker 1: Was it hard at first to see yourself on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you're like, first of all, who wants

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Speaker 1: And you were just doing it because you wanted to,

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Speaker 1: Although I can totally relate to your sentiment about seeing

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Speaker 3: Yes, And that was a really that was a big

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Speaker 1: I remember, like in college when I look at photos

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Speaker 3: Yes, I talked to women a lot actually about that.

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Speaker 3: And then like pet photos, home photos, food photos, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm sure. I mean fast forward today.

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Speaker 1: The amount of people that you interact with on so

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Speaker 3: Be it's a lot. And I do I answer. I

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Speaker 3: get a lot of my most meaningful and impactful messages

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Speaker 3: I'm sure this is true for you too. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: So when does the twelve ish style grow from just

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Speaker 1: gaining a following.

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00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: I think that that was it. Really again, it took

441
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: about a year and after I think I got comfortable

442
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 3: with myself I started talking because there was a different

443
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: from like, hey, you can like here's some clothing hacks

444
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: and how to get dressed, and here's like here I

445
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 3: am and like Jeene shorts. There's a difference between that

446
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 3: and really understanding that, like there is no destination with

447
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: size and that like opening the conversation up to women

448
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 3: and being like, girl, this is not like this is

449
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: never gonna end, right, Like you keep going and going

450
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: and you'll be a zero and you're still looking in

451
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 3: the mirror and being like I hate myself.

452
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not the goal here no, so more

453
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 1: and more people are following and it's growing.

454
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: It's growing. I'm having a really good time, and then

455
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck, I can't find a thigh chaf stick

456
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: that I like. There's nothing on the market that is

457
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: for women. There's nothing. And every time I talked about

458
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 3: thigh chaf on my stories or on my feed, it

459
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 3: was one of the most engaged things. So I was like,

460
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: I definitely there's definitely people out there that have it.

461
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm just unclear why I'm looking at D's nuts for

462
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 3: her and there's nothing out there, like that's just a

463
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: product for ladies.

464
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: Have I never heard of that product?

465
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 3: These nuts for her? Because why would you? Why would

466
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 3: any why why would you make that product? So I

467
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 3: was I was talking to my sister and I was like,

468
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't know how to do this.

469
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: I've never made anything in my life, but I want

470
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 3: to look into making my own thigh chaf stick. And

471
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 3: she was like I'm in and then I and then

472
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: I talked to my best friend out in San Francisco

473
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 3: and I was like, we're going to do this, Like

474
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: do you want to do this with us? And she

475
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 3: was like yeah, I do. So while we were solving

476
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: thigh chaf we figured maybe we should develop a second

477
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: product to help tackle another issue. So I took on

478
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: boob Sweat, which is the name of my podcast, And

479
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: so we made a bust dust, which is a telch free,

480
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: hands free powder for boob sweat, and they sold out.

481
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: We launched it. We had no idea what was going on.

482
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: We didn't know how to buy the quantities. We just

483
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 3: like directing consumer, put it up on the website, put

484
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 3: it up on my Instagram, and we sold thousands and

485
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: thousands and thousands of units in a month.

486
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: Did was the testing for that? Like insane testing? Yeah?

487
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

488
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean, like, how many varieties of boob sweat power

489
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: did we follow through a lot?

490
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 2: We went through a lot before we were like this

491
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: is yes.

492
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're fussy ducks. So it's like, scent is really important.

493
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: Can't be too strong, can't be gross, can't give you

494
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 3: a headache? Like right, it's and the performance with our

495
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: thigh rescue is the best. It's the best I'll put

496
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: our thigh Rescue. Fine, you don't want to use our deodorant,

497
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 3: you don't want to use boob sweat, I mean buzz

498
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: das fine, but if you have thigh chafe, it is.

499
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: It is the best thigh chaf stick on the market.

500
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: I actually wrote about Rosie Pits for Cosmo like a

501
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: year Yes you did, Yes, And it's just like I

502
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: remember and spoiler, Rosie Pits is the deodorant that's in

503
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: the Megababe line.

504
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: And I remember that.

505
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: I was sitting at a bar once and I was like, Wow,

506
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: it's smell so nice in here, and then I realized

507
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: that it is literally me armpits. Yeah, it's fine.

508
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: It just literally smells like ros today.

509
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: Literally I was like, did I put yodor onund? But

510
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: I don't think it did, because I don't smell the

511
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 3: Rosy pits. I just smelled my armpit for the people

512
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: at home.

513
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, hope you enjoying it.

514
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 3: Are you still using Rosie Pits?

515
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: I definitely have it in the rotation.

516
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 3: What else are you using?

517
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: Probably like a secret.

518
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 3: Oh you go back to aluminum?

519
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: I do.

520
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: I'm not like a strict all natural fiend, but I

521
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: go back and forth. I think it's like literally like

522
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: which one is in closer reach at the time?

523
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: Got it? Got it?

524
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 2: Doing some market research?

525
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 3: Of course, I'm really happy to hear though that it's

526
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: still in the rotation.

527
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's kind of crazy to think that

528
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: you made this product to solve a personal issue and

529
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's literally selling out everywhere.

530
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really crazy, and it was like unexpected

531
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: and expected all at the same time. Like I was like, yeah, duh,

532
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 3: everyone's got thy shaped, But also I was like, what

533
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: people have thigh chafe? And then it went into like

534
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: why doesn't anyone talk about thy chafe? And then talking

535
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: to the media about it, and how it still is

536
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: very much something that people whisper about it. Like I'll

537
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: be walking down the sidewalk and someone will like stop

538
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: me on the big thank you so much I have,

539
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, it's okay. So I think it's

540
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: it's that messaging around your thighs rub. That's a pretty normal,

541
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: average issue that we deal with that we don't address

542
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: in the beauty industry, and in fact, what we're pushed

543
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: towards in the fashion and beauty space is a thigh gap.

544
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: And if you don't have a thigh gap, then something's

545
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 3: wrong with you, And therefore a thigh chafe means like

546
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 3: something's really.

547
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: Wrong, right, right, yeah, but it's not. It was part

548
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: of life, just part of life. It's so interesting to me.

549
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean the tenacity that you have to have to

550
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: admit and be very well like be very well versed

551
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: that I know absolutely nothing about how to do this

552
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: thing that I want to do, but I'm just gonna

553
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: go do it.

554
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't. I we had never made a product

555
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 3: and that means my parents fulfilled the orders for two years.

556
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: So we're only we were just turning three. We're not

557
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: three yet. But but this summer we moved to a

558
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: fulfillment center. But we took everyone out of retirement and

559
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: we put them to work and they were shipping all

560
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 3: the orders. Big Alta trucks were backing up into my parents'

561
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: driveway and like they were like meeting with the delivery guys.

562
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 3: Like it was very very home It is still homegrown.

563
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: Like it's just it's still is just the four of

564
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: us and it's a lot of work. Wow, it's yeah,

565
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: because we're in every target now, every Alta.

566
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: And how do you manage that? Well, now you have

567
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: a fulfillment center. But it was like found a tender

568
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: for ship for shipments. But but we were we were

569
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: shipping target and Alto out of the garage up until

570
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: up until June.

571
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 2: Bless them.

572
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean talk about a supportive foundation though, yes,

573
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: like literally your parents.

574
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: I know they yeah, they really they took it on.

575
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 3: I think that they were excited to be involved in

576
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 3: something that's to be big and growing and that was

577
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: like working right.

578
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, all right.

579
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: So something we haven't really talked much about yet is, yes,

580
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: you are like supportive of women at all sizes, whatever

581
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: that might be. But you're also doing something on your

582
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: social media that a lot of people are really drawn to,

583
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: which is the Make My Size movement. Yes, so let's

584
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: talk about the Make my Size movement.

585
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Make my Size is basically it was just born

586
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: out of frustration for me shopping because, as you have

587
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: heard in this podcast, I gained weight and that means

588
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: that I couldn't shop at certain stores anymore or with

589
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: certain designers anymore. And if I thought it was hard

590
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: to find clothes at a twelve fourteen, at a sixteen

591
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: eighteen twenty girl, you cannot find anything. So I I

592
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: was pissed. I'm like, I had an order from Netaporte,

593
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: which I never know how to say.

594
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: I feel like that's right, Okay, what do you think, Like,

595
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: what's the other porter that's like such an americanized version

596
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: of it.

597
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: It's Netaporte.

598
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 2: I support it, Yeah, thank you.

599
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: So I had an order from them, and I was

600
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: thinking that the third there was a third delivery that

601
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: I had gotten from them where nothing was going to

602
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: fit again. And I had ordered all like the double

603
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: x's and like the size fifties and the biggest size

604
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: that they were making. And it's so funny because brands

605
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: will look at my Instagram and they'll be like, we

606
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: can dress you, let's send you stuff, and I'm like,

607
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: I'll go to their website and they stop at at

608
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: fourteen and I'm like, you don't, I can't fit into

609
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: your clothes and they're like yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no

610
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. So what I did is I

611
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: took a photo and I posted so the brand. I

612
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: think the first thing I at, the first one I

613
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: called that was DVF. I said, this is this is

614
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 3: like a beautiful skirt. I'd love to wear it, and

615
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: this is how far away it is from fitting me.

616
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: And I think I do make my size because I

617
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: want to alert brands that a they're missing out on

618
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: an audience. Be the big sizes that everyone who's sitting

619
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: in the boardroom, who's like making decisions, those sizes that

620
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: they think are like we're servicing the community, they're not.

621
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: And I want to it in a positive way so

622
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: that people aren't turned off and they're not. I'm not

623
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: like this sucks, like boycott them. No, I don't want

624
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: you to boycott them. I just want this brand to

625
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: know that, like people want to shop them?

626
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Right what happens after that first post, because I almost

627
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: feel as though kind of putting that up would be

628
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: a little bit scary.

629
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: To be honest, you don't want to burn any bridges.

630
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: You don't want anyone to be a man again.

631
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: You're talking that you want to just you know, put

632
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: some awareness into the world.

633
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is exactly it. As a quote unquote fashion blogger,

634
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: you do not call out brands unless you want to

635
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: be known as like a like the call out queen

636
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: or like an angry blogger. So basically it was it

637
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: was very scary, and I was like, our brand's gonna

638
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: not want to work with me, like this is this

639
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: is I don't know, it was like career suicide. But

640
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: then uh, the response from the audience again, like it

641
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: was the intention behind it. The intention wasn't to shame

642
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: the brand and to like disgrace them the attention, the

643
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: intention is to bring awareness, and the people felt that

644
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: they felt seen for every woman who's gone into Club

645
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: Monaco and like not been able to put anything on, Like,

646
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: that's that's who I'm doing this for.

647
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: Right, So what happens on the brand side, Well, DVF

648
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: is a great example.

649
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: They launched a capsule collection of rap dresses with eleven

650
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: Hona Ray this fall. So I mean we're talking, we're

651
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: talking a year later, right, that's amazing, right, Like for

652
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: that kind of turnaround, you've got brands like Veronica Beard

653
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: who like they listen, they heard, and they are killing it.

654
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: Tanya Taylor, I never didn't make my size on her.

655
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: She just like felt passionate about making extended sizes. Like

656
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 3: she's making beautiful clothes that women of all sizes can

657
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: wear and it's getting noticed.

658
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: Also, the thing that can be a bit of a

659
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Speaker 1: struggle is then like sometimes the price increasing for bigger

660
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: sizes of clothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never understood that. I didn't even know it

662
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: was a real thing. And then actually, my friend Ryan

663
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: who does he has a blog called Extra Extra Style.

664
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Speaker 3: He just posted a Ralph lawrencewater that was like fifty

665
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: bucks more in the bigger sizes. I just I didn't

666
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: think that was a real thing. Yeah, I'm sorry if

667
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: that sounds dumb, but like I really dumb. I really

668
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: didn't think that that was something brands were doing. Like, really,

669
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: you're going to charge for the extra fabric, then why

670
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: wouldn't you charge less for a double.

671
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: Zero a double zero?

672
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: Right?

673
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

674
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Speaker 1: It sounds like the brands are getting on board with

675
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Speaker 1: what you're doing. And I'm sure you're still probably getting

676
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: some of those emails from brands that want to dress

677
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: you but the clothing doesn't fit.

678
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you like? I work with that in

679
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: your head.

680
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: I try to be really polite and I'm just like

681
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: and I just let them know, like I'm like, hey, Mike,

682
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: like collection looks great. Unfortunately, like I wear size eighteen

683
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: twenty and you stop at a sixteen, right, or like

684
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: shoes ivo size twelve foot all the time people are like,

685
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: our shoes are so generously, like they're they're big, Like

686
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: we go up to a forty two, which is enough

687
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 3: of forty two is a ten. I mean everyone so

688
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: I but all the time I'm having to be like no, yeah, no,

689
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: that's not it. But I think politely letting them know

690
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: is much more impactful than like a deep shame.

691
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Speaker 1: I can only imagine how freeing this feels for you,

692
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: to just be so completely yourself.

693
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: Now. I am very free, maybe too free, as you mentioned,

694
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm wearing fancy sweatpants right now. Like I just I

695
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: get to be I get to be me all the time,

696
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: and that is really I don't know how to describe that.

697
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: I wish that for everyone, right yeah, Like I just

698
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: want I feel so good that I'm able to do that.

699
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: And did you see that the way that you felt

700
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: about yourself kind of opened you up to possibilities?

701
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Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely, because that's all that's I mean, that's Gabby

702
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: Bernstein super attractor kind of stuff, right, Like You're just

703
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: you're constantly feeling this positive energy about yourself. You're attracting

704
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: positive things, which attracts more positive things. It's just, it's

705
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: it's it's just it's available to everyone, but we often

706
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: get in our own way. Now, if I'm if I'm

707
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: another person, if I'm a different person. I'm walking in

708
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: here and I'm like, oh no, I had to shoot

709
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 3: this like fancy sweatsuit this morning, and I didn't change,

710
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: and now I look dumpy and now I look this

711
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: and like, there's this conversation that you could have, But

712
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: what is the.

713
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: Point right of that? Right?

714
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: Cute as hell?

715
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like kind of like when someone compliments your

716
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: Target sweater and you feel like you need to be like,

717
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, thinks it's from Target. But someone once

718
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: said to me, and I remember it was about an

719
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: item from Target, and I said, oh my god, thinks

720
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: it's from Target, because you.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like want to let them know.

722
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, but she was like, next time, just saying

723
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: just try saying thank you, and then they're gonna be like, wow,

724
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: what a jet look at this. Yeah, not to disstart

725
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: that sweaters. I mean, there's great things, but I'm just saying, yeah,

726
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the same vibe. And I mean,

727
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: obviously in your personal life this opened you up to

728
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: a whole new world with your now husband.

729
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think dating was really scary after I got

730
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: a divorce because I had not like I had been

731
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: with my ex husband for ten years, so I hadn't

732
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: ever done like dating apps, and I was really scared.

733
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: And then I was like, wait, this is awesome. I

734
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: can date from my couch because like, I don't go

735
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Speaker 3: to the bars, like I don't go to the club,

736
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: so I like didn't know how or where I was

737
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: going to meet people. And then I just I found dat.

738
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Speaker 3: I found dating apps to be very fun, frustrating at times,

739
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: scary at times, but also like just so much easier

740
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 3: to swipe while you're watching TV.

741
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Speaker 2: What's our go to dating app?

742
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: It was it was Bumball.

743
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: Okay, this is just what it's like to date in

744
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: New York. This is it.

745
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: I have to give you a big secret here. It's day.

746
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: It's Manhattan dating. Oh it's probably Brooklyn.

747
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 2: Are you telling me I should go to Brooklyn?

748
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: I think you should go. This is not twenty two

749
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: year old me would be like, shut up, but I'm

750
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 3: being serious. I think it's all about like it's about

751
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: smaller cities, it's about outer borough. It's about like it's

752
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 3: you gotta get out of Manhattan.

753
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Speaker 1: But that's why I've leaned off of the apps, because

754
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: I would rather like put my phone in my pocket,

755
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: take my AirPods out, and like be really freaking present

756
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: when I'm walking around and like try to make.

757
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: You can you can make you can make actually connections.

758
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: I'm an IRL connection.

759
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm really working on an IRL connect.

760
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Speaker 3: Have you met anyone IRL?

761
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Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna have to talk about this off the pod, Okay,

762
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: I'll have to talk about this all.

763
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Speaker 3: I just want want to know that, Like when I

764
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 3: was single, I was it was like I was open

765
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: because it's all about the vibe you're putting off, right,

766
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: Like you can meet people anywhere.

767
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: Oh it's true.

768
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't mean they're good or cool or they're

769
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: going to stick around. But you can meet people anywhere.

770
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Speaker 2: Oh you totally. I mean I will not.

771
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: I cannot count how many times people have tried just

772
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: to like come into the dms, but like maybe one

773
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: out of one hundred men that have ever done this,

774
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: like was someone that I would.

775
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: Actually want to entertain. You'll meet in the DM Oh yeah,

776
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: it's the new dating app. It's true, it's true. Okay,

777
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: So what in your life right now really excites you?

778
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: I would say, what excites me in my life right now? Megababe?

779
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: Every day?

780
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 2: How many products do we have going on Megababy?

781
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: We have eleven products right now, and there's men's product too.

782
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we launched two men's We launched like a dray Guy,

783
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: which is a ballpowder. We did a friction fighter for

784
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: for men for chafe.

785
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: What was the original men's product that you were like,

786
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: f this? What do you mean when you were like,

787
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to use this nuts for her? Oh

788
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: well take that nuts for her?

789
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: Nos like and and I would say megababe. And I

790
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: love my husband a lot, even though that's not like

791
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 3: a professional pursuit. I'm just excited. Yeah, I really I

792
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: love him and m I don't know. Talking to ladies

793
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: in the DMS, it's exciting. Yeah, it's exciting. Everything's exciting.

794
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's been any single interaction over

795
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: the last like year or two that has literally just

796
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: blown you out of the water.

797
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: I would say I've been. I've I have a follower

798
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: who is in her fifties and she lives in Australia

799
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: and she's making like a total life change move. She's

800
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: moving to the States. Uh. And she credited me with

801
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: like the past basically four years of like everything transformation,

802
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: body acceptance, life acceptance, Like she's starting her life over

803
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: and it was amazing to hear that I had any impact.

804
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: On that blows it. It's mind blowing. I had.

805
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Speaker 1: I mean, I, as I mentioned, really struggled with my

806
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: size and body acceptance when I was in high school

807
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: and young in college. And and I have girls that

808
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: are in high school that reach out to me and

809
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: tell me that like I'm helping them understand like what they.

810
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: Are capable of. It literally, like nothing means more to

811
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Speaker 2: me in the world. Can I ask you?

812
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question?

813
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do it.

814
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 3: So, how how do you deal with like weight conversations?

815
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 3: So if if if a seventeen year old reaches out

816
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: to you and is like, I'm like, I feel fat,

817
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: I feel this, I feel that, how do you do

818
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: you address weight? Or how do you how do you

819
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: address that?

820
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

821
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: So I think that the first question I ask is like,

822
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: how do you feel? Like, how do you feel in

823
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: your life? Are you happy? Are you unhappy? Are there

824
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: other things that are going on that contribute to this,

825
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: because obviously when you're a teenager, there's a ton of

826
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: things that are going on that are contributing to this,

827
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: especially now, like I'm so grateful and I'm sure you

828
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: are too, that we grew up when we did and

829
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: that social media was just not a thing because I

830
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: cannot imagine like.

831
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: Bullying and dealing with that.

832
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so many of the young women that reach

833
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: out to me like really do deal with bullying on

834
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: like a regular basis. So when it comes to like

835
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: them struggling with their weight, it's not a topic that

836
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: I get a lot from them. It's more just about

837
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: like self confidence, which is definitely something that I feel

838
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: like we can speak on together. But if it is

839
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: like a weight issue, it's just like I kind of

840
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: bring it back to my personal experience when I was

841
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: losing weight and why I was doing in it. For me,

842
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: it was never about like I want to lose seventy pounds.

843
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: It was about, like what can I do right now

844
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: in my life that's going to make me happier? And

845
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: for me like to be happier. I knew, like all right,

846
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: like I like banana chocolate chip ice cream, but like

847
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: eating it every day actually isn't making me happy at all.

848
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: It's making me feel really awful about myself and like

849
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: identifying the small things that I could change. Like one

850
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: of the young girls that reached out to me, she

851
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: was telling me that she was so worried about what

852
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: other people would think about her auditioning for the cross

853
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: or going out for the cross country team, that she

854
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: wasn't doing it, and she realized, like maybe I should

855
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: just like give it a whirl this year. And I

856
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my God, like my hurt for you,

857
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm so I'm just so honored that like what

858
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: I have been through and me being authentic and me

859
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: being open with you about what I've been through out

860
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: by none of it being perfect whatsoever, like that my

861
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: true story can help you just get through anything.

862
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: God am I lucky to have that opportunity. Yeah.

863
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: So, I mean when it comes to like weight and

864
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: young girls, like there's never probably like a right way

865
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: to tackle it. I weight cycled my entire adolescence. There

866
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: were times when I was sixteen and thin and teaching

867
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: like hip hop dance at a summer camp. And then

868
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: there's like me at eighteen, and I remember like a

869
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: photo of me in a mini golf course and like

870
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: a size eighteen gene from American Eagle, when like they

871
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: once made a size eighteen. So I like, I've been

872
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: all over the place and there's no like easy way

873
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: to talk to young women about weight loss. But I

874
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: think the best way and the most responsible way we

875
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: can do it, let's talk about how you feel and like,

876
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: what are some actionable like smart things that you can

877
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Speaker 1: do that are and helpful and can make you feel better? Like,

878
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: I think that's really important. Oh, thanks for coming to

879
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Speaker 1: my TED talk. Okay, so we're winding down here. People

880
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: come to your Instagram page all the time and they

881
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: see you living this like fabulous life. But when you

882
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: look in the mirror now, after everything that you've been through, Like.

883
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: What is it that you see looking back at you?

884
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 3: I see someone who's really happy.

885
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: I do beyond just this like feeling of happiness. Do

886
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: you feel confident? Do you feel secure? Where are you

887
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: at with that?

888
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I feel if they're sure, there are

889
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: things I feel insecure about every day, but it's not

890
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: my body. Yeah, And that's like a different plane to be.

891
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: On when it comes to the next few months, the

892
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: next year, Like what are the big things that are

893
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: coming down the pipe for you that you that you'll

894
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Speaker 1: let us into.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I have I've got a couple more

896
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Speaker 3: collections coming out with stitch Fix and they're really effing cute.

897
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Speaker 2: Talk to me about that. What's Almo a stitch Fix?

898
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Speaker 3: I have a line with stitch Fix. We did we

899
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: just released the fall line and we did something really

900
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: cool this past summer. And I don't know, they're just

901
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: their clothes that I want to wear that I can't

902
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 3: really find still. So like I made like red riding

903
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: pants and that's something that I love, but like, they

904
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: don't make those really in my size. So I love

905
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: working with stitch Fix. And then Megababe's got new products

906
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: coming out summer twenty twenty. We are just we're we're

907
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 3: gonna spend money on marketing, which is the first which

908
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: we've never done before. So that's exciting. And I don't know,

909
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: everything's exciting. I got to make a twenty twenty plan.

910
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Speaker 2: It sounds like, let's do it, man.

911
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in.

912
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Speaker 2: We're going to storyboard for that when we're done.

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Speaker 1: After we talk about my dating life, what would you

914
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: say is one piece of advice that you would give

915
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: to someone who's struggling to accept themselves as a size

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Speaker 1: that they are.

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00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 3: I would say, so accepting the size that you are,

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00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: I think it's like looking at your whole journey as

919
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: like as like whole thing. So are you always just

920
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: up and down ten pounds and you're you are always

921
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: struggling to get that ten pounds off. Let's just settle

922
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: into the ten pounds and forget that, forget it, Let's

923
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: live life and just like nothing better happens to you

924
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: when the ten pounds are gone, right, Like you don't

925
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: get the job like that you that you want, or

926
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: like the guy doesn't show up because you're ten pounds in.

927
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: These are just like this imaginary weight struggle. And once

928
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: you release that, you have so much more brain space

929
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Speaker 3: to focus on things that make you happy.

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Speaker 1: I also have to ask you because I feel like

931
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Speaker 1: it's a really important conversation now in this era of

932
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Speaker 1: body of positivity, is also the conversation of like being

933
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: healthy and being body positive. I'm writing an essay for

934
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Speaker 1: a website about this for January, and I think obviously

935
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: there is a difference between like being healthy and being

936
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: of a certain size and being unhealthy and like being

937
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: okay with it. Sure, that's something that people probably come

938
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Speaker 1: to you with.

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Speaker 3: Actually, it's interesting because health we look at health and

940
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: we apply health to thin people only, right, we say

941
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: you look at you look at a girl who is

942
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: a size zero and doesn't eat food and smokes, and

943
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: you're like, Wow, she's thriving. So it's we have a

944
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: really preconceived notion of what health is myself right now.

945
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: Like I know that I'm not as healthy healthy as

946
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: I could be. And that's not like I don't look

947
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: at the number on the scale and think that even

948
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: though sure you could take an indicator from that, but

949
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: it's more like, I know I'm not working out. I

950
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: know I'm like not eating my like all the greens.

951
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: I can't like you know what I mean, Like, I

952
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: know I'm not in that zone. Yeah, and that is

953
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: that is a different conversation to me than I need

954
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 3: to be in this gene size. I'm not comfortable on

955
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: the beach. I'm going to the beach later this week,

956
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: and guess what, I'm gonna feel fucking great in my

957
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 3: swimsuit at the current size I am to day. Does

958
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: that mean I can't like tune up my health? Yeah, no,

959
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 3: I need to tune up my health.

960
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear it.

961
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 3: And that's for that's that's not for gene size, that's

962
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: for like life.

963
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: We're in an era right now. Where everyone is open

964
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: to more so than maybe ever before, like accepting and

965
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: like seeing and like getting used to seeing bodies of

966
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: all sizes and that's so wonderful. But so many people

967
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: are just so critical of this idea that like okay,

968
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: but like is she healthy at this size?

969
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 3: We don't fucking know. We don't fucking know, that's the thing,

970
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: Like you don't know what she's doing, and like I

971
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: feel like I when I when when articles about me

972
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: go quote unquote viral, you there are comments about me.

973
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: I mean you would think that, like I have three eyes.

974
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: People can't believe how big I am, and I'm like,

975
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: what is this? People are insane? It's it's what we're

976
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: used to seeing in the media, and as soon as

977
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: anything varies from that, still we are very critical, especially women,

978
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: very critical to like judge that lady, but we don't

979
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: know anything about her.

980
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the comments, So how have you managed

981
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: to handle that? As your social media following has exploit in.

982
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: So mean comments and trolls, They're not really on my page,

983
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: Like it's they just don't come to my page. I'm

984
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: a ninety five percent female following, Like I just am

985
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: not I'm not there for for dudes, and like, I

986
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: don't ladies who want to say bad stuff about me,

987
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 3: they just don't. When something goes on like a forum

988
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: like Yahoo or the Daily Mail or something like that,

989
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: that's when the comments come. Because you've got the strangers

990
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: who don't know who you are. They don't know, they

991
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: don't like they're not with you on your journey. They're

992
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: just like who is this? And and based on that alone,

993
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: the fact that like they can come and just like

994
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: shit on this body positive self acceptance, like love yourself

995
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: message is says so much about them and nothing about me.

996
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: So I don't take I don't take that stuff personally.

997
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 2: Last, but certainly not least.

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00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: You have an opportunity right now to offer the katie

999
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: who is post divorce going through this huge hurdle moment

1000
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: of like learning to love herself and embrace your body

1001
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: and like just feel good about who you are. You

1002
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: have an opportunity right now to give that katie one

1003
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: piece of advice. What is it that you tell her?

1004
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: If I had to give myself three four years ago

1005
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: one piece of advice, it would be that everything's going

1006
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: to pass, Everything is going to get better if you

1007
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: let it. And you do the work and there's no

1008
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 3: way around it. You gotta go through it. But it

1009
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 3: doesn't all have to be all bad, right, You can

1010
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: find like little pieces of joy every day in the

1011
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 3: small stuff and everything will move.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sitting down with me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Please take a moment and leave a quick review by

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Speaker 1: clicking the link with the description to this episode. We

1016
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to hear

1017
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Speaker 1: about yours. Reach out to me at Emily at Hurdlet

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Speaker 1: us connect with the podcast on Instagram and Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Hurdle Podcast. Where do they find you? Where do they

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Speaker 1: keep up with Megababe? But give me all the deets

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Speaker 1: the dogs too.

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Speaker 3: It's at Katiestrino on Instagram. You can follow at megababe

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Speaker 3: on Instagram, megababe beauty dot com. The dogs are at

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Speaker 3: dog meets World Man everywhere everywhere. We're taking over.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am at Emily a body another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.