1
00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,640
Speaker 1: So I'm here in the studio with producer and new mom.

2
00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,720
Speaker 1: Hey Maria, So Genie, you just had a baby boy, Martine.

3
00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,920
Speaker 2: Yes, and Maria we talked a ton about having kids

4
00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,560
Speaker 2: that when I was pregnant, or when I wasn't pregnant,

5
00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,640
Speaker 2: or little did we know that I was pregnant.

6
00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,520
Speaker 1: And the next week you were like, uh, I'm pregnant.

7
00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,920
Speaker 2: Say kay. And now he's seven months and it's flown

8
00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,400
Speaker 2: by love it.

9
00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,120
Speaker 1: I love it.

10
00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,400
Speaker 2: And he's doing a lot of bad, bad, bad, bad bad.

11
00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,760
Speaker 1: So what language are you speak to him in?

12
00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:48,559
Speaker 2: We are speaking Spanish immersion, all Spanish all the time.

13
00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,800
Speaker 1: My son. That's what we did with Raul. It was

14
00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,760
Speaker 1: monolingual Spanish one percent all the time.

15
00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,160
Speaker 2: And did it stick totally? Are you kidding?

16
00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,560
Speaker 1: He's multi lingual now he has a facility for language

17
00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,400
Speaker 1: and he's not afraid of it because we've spoken well.

18
00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,959
Speaker 1: First he was monolingual Spanish, and then when his sister

19
00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,640
Speaker 1: came and that was where it got a little complicated.

20
00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,440
Speaker 1: It was fine with him alone, just the three of

21
00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,280
Speaker 1: us speaking Spanish.

22
00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,880
Speaker 2: Does she speak now? She speaks, but it's all hard.

23
00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,880
Speaker 2: I had this conversation a lot with my husband Ernesto.

24
00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,560
Speaker 2: He's from Peru, and he was terrified that raising our

25
00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,920
Speaker 2: son here in the US meant that he wasn't going

26
00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,720
Speaker 2: to speak perfect Spanish.

27
00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,319
Speaker 1: And then they're going to go back to the home country,

28
00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,160
Speaker 1: and then they're going to be teased and made fun of,

29
00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,600
Speaker 1: and then they're not going to want.

30
00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,160
Speaker 2: To speak Spanish. And that is exactly what happened to

31
00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,040
Speaker 2: my brother. He was that kid who said, I don't

32
00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:45,440
Speaker 2: want to speak Spanish. My parents are from the Dominican Republic.

33
00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,680
Speaker 2: For the most part, we spoke Spanish at home growing up,

34
00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,280
Speaker 2: as you can hear in these adorable home recordings from

35
00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:59,000
Speaker 2: my childhood practice here. But my brother and I pretty

36
00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,120
Speaker 2: much always speaking English and have since we were kids.

37
00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,560
Speaker 2: We lived in small towns between Georgia and Alabama, so

38
00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't like there was other kids or even adults

39
00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,160
Speaker 2: for him to speak Spanish too. In the early nineties.

40
00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:26,120
Speaker 2: But Maria, like your son, I learned Spanish first. Wow.

41
00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,080
Speaker 1: That is so cute.

42
00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,960
Speaker 2: That's you, that's little Genie.

43
00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:29,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

44
00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,240
Speaker 2: My mom used to sing to me in Spanish, Ye God,

45
00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,120
Speaker 2: and she used to read books in Spanish. So I

46
00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,640
Speaker 2: speak Spanish at home with Ernesto and little Marting, but

47
00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,079
Speaker 2: now that I'm a parent myself, it kind of got

48
00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,000
Speaker 2: me to thinking about the decisions that my own parents

49
00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,560
Speaker 2: made in terms of language for me and my younger brother.

50
00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,760
Speaker 2: So I wanted to figure out why was it that

51
00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,680
Speaker 2: I learned Spanish at home and my brother didn't.

52
00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,120
Speaker 1: From Futuro Media and PRX, It's Latino USA by Maria

53
00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:16,160
Speaker 1: Rosa and Today Espanol Spanish as a First Language, a

54
00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,520
Speaker 1: story about the decisions Latino parents make, like me, when

55
00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,520
Speaker 1: we decide to raise our children speaking Spanish. We first

56
00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,120
Speaker 1: aired this show in twenty eighteen, but it's as relevant

57
00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,200
Speaker 1: today as it was then. So let's revisit our conversation

58
00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,760
Speaker 1: about raising kids bilingually now.

59
00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,640
Speaker 3: So my name is Godless Montago. Yeah, I like long

60
00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,840
Speaker 3: walks on the beach sunsets.

61
00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,840
Speaker 2: That is my brother, or as I like to call him, Nerdo.

62
00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,520
Speaker 2: He is literally a rocket scientist. Oh my god.

63
00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:50,760
Speaker 4: What.

64
00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,440
Speaker 3: I'm a mechanical engineering professor at the University of South Alabama.

65
00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,080
Speaker 3: I got my bachelor's, master's and PhD in aerospace engineering

66
00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,960
Speaker 3: at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta.

67
00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,280
Speaker 2: He's literally a genius.

68
00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,640
Speaker 1: I have a brother like that doesn't speak perfect Spanish,

69
00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,080
Speaker 1: by the way, and neither does Carlos.

70
00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,200
Speaker 3: There were two reasons why I didn't want to speak Spanish. One,

71
00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,040
Speaker 3: it was hard for me. I didn't have the necessary

72
00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,680
Speaker 3: vocabulary to talk to my parents in a way that

73
00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,560
Speaker 3: I felt I could explain my ideas correctly. Since it

74
00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,400
Speaker 3: wasn't my first language, it was tough for me to

75
00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,440
Speaker 3: generate sentences to reply back.

76
00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,200
Speaker 2: So I get it right. We all feel embarrassment when

77
00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,960
Speaker 2: we're uncomfortable with a language, but for my brother it

78
00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,839
Speaker 2: seemed to go deeper.

79
00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,960
Speaker 3: You don't want people to think that you're stupid and

80
00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,000
Speaker 3: laugh at you. You know, do you sit there and

81
00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,919
Speaker 3: you just say, why bother speaking in Spanish when we

82
00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,960
Speaker 3: all speak englishless is speaking English and that I'll be

83
00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:40,560
Speaker 3: much easier.

84
00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,840
Speaker 2: We both lived in the same house, we both grew

85
00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,760
Speaker 2: up with the same parents. I speak Spanish since I

86
00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,560
Speaker 2: was a baby and Carlos didn't. So how does that work?

87
00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,839
Speaker 2: How does that happen? I wanted to really understand and

88
00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,039
Speaker 2: get inside my brother's head, figure out what it is

89
00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,320
Speaker 2: that kept him from wanting to be kind of like

90
00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,320
Speaker 2: a part of that culture and understanding the language. So

91
00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,360
Speaker 2: I asked him what he thought the difference was between

92
00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,160
Speaker 2: the two of us.

93
00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,520
Speaker 3: I think one of the things, Genie was the age gap.

94
00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,280
Speaker 3: You and I are six years apart, I think over

95
00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,599
Speaker 3: six and a half. Yeah, And so by the time

96
00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,080
Speaker 3: I came into the picture, didn't the family already decide

97
00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,880
Speaker 3: to speak English at home? As far as I understand,

98
00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,560
Speaker 3: before I was born, you three spoke into Spanish all

99
00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,799
Speaker 3: the time, and then when I was older, the house

100
00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:30,839
Speaker 3: became an English thing.

101
00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's that's a question for Mummy

102
00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:44,719
Speaker 2: and puppy. Mammy two Milmo Cambrangealis Okay, Okay. I talked

103
00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,840
Speaker 2: to Carlos last week. Yes, I asked my mom if

104
00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,360
Speaker 2: there was a conscious decision to switch to English when

105
00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,600
Speaker 2: my brother was little. I didn't really remember that being

106
00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,960
Speaker 2: an actual decision.

107
00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:59,240
Speaker 5: We did change to English, but the situation happened that

108
00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,960
Speaker 5: the preschool or kindergarten teacher when he was learning English,

109
00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,960
Speaker 5: she said that he was having a harder times. So

110
00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,440
Speaker 5: the situation wasn't that it was our decision. The decision

111
00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,400
Speaker 5: was kind of may florous.

112
00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,040
Speaker 2: When Carlos was born, we lived in a tiny town

113
00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,080
Speaker 2: in Alabama. We were the only Latino family there, and

114
00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,040
Speaker 2: after that we moved to a suburb of Atlanta. It

115
00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,279
Speaker 2: was not the international metropolis it is today. So the

116
00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,920
Speaker 2: teacher explicitly said to you, don't speak Spanish to him

117
00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,680
Speaker 2: at home because he's getting confused.

118
00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,200
Speaker 5: She didn't say Spanish per se, she said, don't speak

119
00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,559
Speaker 5: two languages at home.

120
00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,039
Speaker 2: And what did you think about that?

121
00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:40,320
Speaker 4: Dat?

122
00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,159
Speaker 2: Did that make you feel?

123
00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,279
Speaker 5: Well? I was caring more about Carlos than anything else.

124
00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:52,000
Speaker 5: In my time. You respect authority, and a teacher was authority.

125
00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,359
Speaker 5: So if the authority said you cannot do this, we

126
00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:57,279
Speaker 5: followed through.

127
00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,400
Speaker 2: So for her to.

128
00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,640
Speaker 5: Tell me that he was having a hard time, he

129
00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,120
Speaker 5: just told me, I'm not going to make lie harder

130
00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,680
Speaker 5: for him.

131
00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:10,160
Speaker 4: Wow.

132
00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,720
Speaker 1: So the teacher basically said, you're setting your kid back

133
00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,400
Speaker 1: by raising him bilingually, which you know factually we know

134
00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,000
Speaker 1: now is not true. I mean right, this has totally

135
00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,480
Speaker 1: been disproven correct.

136
00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,320
Speaker 2: And I spoke to an expert about this.

137
00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,160
Speaker 6: My name is Lisa Badour. I'm a professor in Communication,

138
00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,679
Speaker 6: scientist and disorders at the University of Texas at Austin.

139
00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,760
Speaker 2: I asked Lisa if she'd heard of cases like my brothers.

140
00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,600
Speaker 2: You know, where a teacher tells the parent it's just

141
00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,040
Speaker 2: better to speak one language.

142
00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,520
Speaker 6: I think that it's unfortunately a long term common practice

143
00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,280
Speaker 6: that people do suggest to families that they speak only

144
00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,840
Speaker 6: one language, and that's usually English, to their children, to

145
00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,560
Speaker 6: prevent them from becoming confused.

146
00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,440
Speaker 2: It happens quite a bit, right, and it's not even

147
00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,480
Speaker 2: something that's in the past, which is what I originally thought.

148
00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,040
Speaker 2: The subject actually came up the other day in this

149
00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,280
Speaker 2: Facebook mom group that I'm part of. One mom asked

150
00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,520
Speaker 2: a question about her children being delayed and speaking. She

151
00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,400
Speaker 2: was kind of wondering if it was because they were

152
00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,400
Speaker 2: hearing multiple languages and hearing English with an accent.

153
00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,320
Speaker 6: But Lisa says, there's no real evidence that there's an

154
00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,640
Speaker 6: increased risk for having language learning difficulties just because you're

155
00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,760
Speaker 6: hearing and using two languages. We know that hearing and

156
00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,760
Speaker 6: using two languages offers social and cognitive advantages.

157
00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,240
Speaker 2: So being bilingual is not related to learning difficulties. The

158
00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,200
Speaker 2: teacher was wrong.

159
00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,600
Speaker 5: I think it was a frame of mind of the area.

160
00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:40,440
Speaker 5: They were not exposed to seeing other people learning other languages,

161
00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:48,000
Speaker 5: seeing other cultures. There was barely no immigrants in Alphaeda.

162
00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,920
Speaker 2: So there weren't a lot of Spanish speakers in Alpharetta,

163
00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,360
Speaker 2: but our parents would send us to the Dominican Republic

164
00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,400
Speaker 2: for six weeks at a time to be with our grandmother, like,

165
00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,839
Speaker 2: go be with your family and speak Spanish.

166
00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,120
Speaker 1: Were you like, we're going to the domain Obama's or

167
00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,320
Speaker 1: was it like, oh my god, we're gonna have to

168
00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,599
Speaker 1: speak Spanish.

169
00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,840
Speaker 2: For me, it was like, oh, I get to go

170
00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,400
Speaker 2: hang out with my cousins and be with family and stuff,

171
00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,120
Speaker 2: and you know, the language was the language and you

172
00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,760
Speaker 2: just spoken. But for him, I guess it was a

173
00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:15,840
Speaker 2: little scarier.

174
00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:22,560
Speaker 5: I always told Axl your causin to speak to him

175
00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:28,000
Speaker 5: in Spanish. But my sister wanted to take advantage of

176
00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,160
Speaker 5: Carlos for Axel to learn English, and of course it

177
00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,240
Speaker 5: was easier for Carlos to speak English, so then he

178
00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,319
Speaker 5: just turned into English. So you know, for every angle

179
00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,920
Speaker 5: if we went home, they were trying to use him

180
00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,760
Speaker 5: for practicing, and then if he came here, we were

181
00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,120
Speaker 5: in areas where Spanish wasn't that frequently spoken.

182
00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,920
Speaker 1: I feel your mom's pain. It is a challenge for

183
00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,760
Speaker 1: us because the world has become smaller, and frankly, English

184
00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,160
Speaker 1: is a very dumb language in the world exactly.

185
00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,199
Speaker 2: But then there's a part of speaking Spanish. That's kind

186
00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,840
Speaker 2: of cultural right. Growing up for me, something just clicked.

187
00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,520
Speaker 2: I started watching telenovelas, I read people in nefanol, and

188
00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,960
Speaker 2: I got really into Latin music. But my brother was

189
00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:17,640
Speaker 2: so different.

190
00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,079
Speaker 3: I mean, I was a metal head in high school

191
00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,000
Speaker 3: and listened to a bunch of you know, fresh metal

192
00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,240
Speaker 3: and metallica and all that.

193
00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,040
Speaker 2: Maria. It's kind of weird because it sounds like what

194
00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,319
Speaker 2: he's saying is that a thrash metal metallic, a loving

195
00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:40,280
Speaker 2: person cannot be Latino, but metal is huge in Latin America.

196
00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,720
Speaker 2: Side note, my husband, who was born and raised in Peru,

197
00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040
Speaker 2: is actually a big metal fan. But that's another story.

198
00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,719
Speaker 2: Aside from being like, you know, a metal head, skateboarding teenager,

199
00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,600
Speaker 2: was there anything else that made you be like, I

200
00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,920
Speaker 2: want nothing to do with this culture.

201
00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,000
Speaker 3: Oh that was probably just I was a lazy teenager.

202
00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,880
Speaker 3: Probably probably I probably just didn't care. I just wanted

203
00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,199
Speaker 3: to hang out with my friends. I mean, Bonnie when

204
00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,920
Speaker 3: she met me in college, didn't even know that I

205
00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,720
Speaker 3: spoke Spanish because I didn't act like it. I don't know,

206
00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:10,760
Speaker 3: did you see something different?

207
00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:11,560
Speaker 2: No?

208
00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,920
Speaker 7: When we met it was I mean, I was just

209
00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,040
Speaker 7: like I was dating any other American guy, and then

210
00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,560
Speaker 7: it hid me when I walked into your parents' house

211
00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,800
Speaker 7: and there was a lot of music playing and your

212
00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,480
Speaker 7: parents were yelling in Spanish, and I was like, oh, oh,

213
00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,679
Speaker 7: I mean, I didn't even know.

214
00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,400
Speaker 2: That's Bonnie, who is not Latina. She's white and grew

215
00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,319
Speaker 2: up in Florida. She took some Spanish classes in high

216
00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,400
Speaker 2: school but doesn't really speak. They've been married for ten

217
00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,600
Speaker 2: years and have two beautiful kids, and they're living in

218
00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,760
Speaker 2: South Alabama. So I asked my brother, you know, does

219
00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,480
Speaker 2: he have any regrets about not speaking Spanish more when

220
00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,280
Speaker 2: we were growing up?

221
00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,280
Speaker 3: What I wish something would be different?

222
00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,040
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

223
00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Mommy and Boppy moved to the United States

224
00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,760
Speaker 3: to you know, to give us a better life, and

225
00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,839
Speaker 3: that's that's where we grew up. And people speak English here.

226
00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,720
Speaker 3: You know, I'm married somebody who only speaks English, and

227
00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,360
Speaker 3: so I think that's just kind of how it is.

228
00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,440
Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, it's just

229
00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,800
Speaker 3: you're just trying to convey an idea. That's what language

230
00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,800
Speaker 3: is for, right, and so why would you purposely make

231
00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:12,880
Speaker 3: it harder for yourself?

232
00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,880
Speaker 2: From my brother's perspective. It's kind of like English is easier,

233
00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,160
Speaker 2: So why am I going to make my life harder

234
00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,800
Speaker 2: by trying to speak Spanish? If I can communicate and

235
00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,800
Speaker 2: I can convey my ideas in English, there's no incentive

236
00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,520
Speaker 2: to speak Spanish.

237
00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,439
Speaker 1: Well, it seems like he just doesn't put being Latino

238
00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,320
Speaker 1: Spanish speaker. It seems like that is not like his

239
00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,120
Speaker 1: top three most important things in terms of his how

240
00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,600
Speaker 1: he identifies and sees his.

241
00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,200
Speaker 2: Life, right. I mean, he might not have ever identified

242
00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,480
Speaker 2: really with his Latino side, but now he's older and

243
00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,560
Speaker 2: things change. Both of us have kids and we have

244
00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,160
Speaker 2: to decide how we're going to raise them. I know

245
00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,960
Speaker 2: what my stances on passing on my language and my

246
00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,160
Speaker 2: heritage to my son, but I don't really know what's

247
00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,240
Speaker 2: in Carlos's head or how he wants to raise his family.

248
00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,079
Speaker 2: How old are the kids? Elena is four and Louis

249
00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,640
Speaker 2: is almost two. Okay, wait a second, you noticed, didn't wait?

250
00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:15,359
Speaker 2: Of course? Well that's the giveaway. Elena and Louis, Louis Carlos.

251
00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so I get a I have a hint, I

252
00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,600
Speaker 1: have an idea of what happens. Do you know, dun

253
00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:33,560
Speaker 1: dun dum coming up on Latino USA. Does Carlos speak

254
00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:50,520
Speaker 1: Spanish to his kids? Stay with us? All right, we're

255
00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,520
Speaker 1: back and I'm here in the studio with producer Gini Montalgo.

256
00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,120
Speaker 2: Hey Maria, all right, so Giny.

257
00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,040
Speaker 1: Before the break, we were talking about bilingualism and your

258
00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,200
Speaker 1: brother and what his plans are for his own kids.

259
00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,960
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier that Carlos didn't really like speaking Spanish

260
00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,720
Speaker 2: when he was a kid, but he actually does speak

261
00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,720
Speaker 2: it now. In seventh grade, you had the option to

262
00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,000
Speaker 2: take a language, and he chose Spanish and continued on

263
00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,320
Speaker 2: into ap Spanish in high school. He speaks it with

264
00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,280
Speaker 2: an accent, but he's stuck with it and eventually he learned.

265
00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,920
Speaker 2: But before I tell you what my brother decided to

266
00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,440
Speaker 2: do with his kids, let's talk to Lisa Bador again,

267
00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,120
Speaker 2: our expert, and have her unpack some of the things

268
00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,640
Speaker 2: that go into teaching your child your native language.

269
00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,800
Speaker 6: I think people think that bilingualism will just happen, and

270
00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,440
Speaker 6: really it takes that kind of ongoing effort to value

271
00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,840
Speaker 6: and you keep using your Spanish day after day so

272
00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,160
Speaker 6: that the child understands that it's important.

273
00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,760
Speaker 2: I asked her about how you can get your kid

274
00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,480
Speaker 2: to become bilingual when you have one parent who just

275
00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,600
Speaker 2: speaks English and another parent that speaks English and.

276
00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,560
Speaker 6: Spanish, in many cases, it would be a matter of

277
00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,040
Speaker 6: setting up more structured situations so that there's more opportunities

278
00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,720
Speaker 6: to hear and use those languages. You won't be able

279
00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,560
Speaker 6: to count as much on the naturalistic environment to provide

280
00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,920
Speaker 6: enough input for the child to really get up and

281
00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,560
Speaker 6: running with the first language.

282
00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:19,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so naturalistic environment could be For instance, like when

283
00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,520
Speaker 2: I was born, my parents had just arrived to the

284
00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,520
Speaker 2: US a year before that to study. They had tons

285
00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,600
Speaker 2: of international friends, and little Genie arrives to two parents

286
00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,040
Speaker 2: who speak Spanish and are surrounded by Spanish speaking friends.

287
00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,280
Speaker 2: That is a naturalistic environment that in my case made

288
00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,000
Speaker 2: it fairly easy to learn Spanish from day one. But

289
00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,880
Speaker 2: when you have a home where there's only one parent

290
00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,000
Speaker 2: who speaks.

291
00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,160
Speaker 6: It will probably require yet more effort on that parent's

292
00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,080
Speaker 6: part is filingual.

293
00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I wonder at one point if the child

294
00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,840
Speaker 2: then realizes, Okay, mom and dad are speaking in English,

295
00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,160
Speaker 2: why am I bothering with this other language?

296
00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:56,480
Speaker 4: Uh?

297
00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,640
Speaker 6: Huh, It does happen, I think, But if you persist,

298
00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,680
Speaker 6: you can get there.

299
00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,160
Speaker 2: So it's not impossible, Maria, it just takes work.

300
00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,520
Speaker 1: Because my husband is more dominant in Spanish, it was

301
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,000
Speaker 1: much easier for us to kind of be in the

302
00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,880
Speaker 1: Spanish realm. But we never forced our kids. We never

303
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,040
Speaker 1: forced them to answer us in Spanish. And I got

304
00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,160
Speaker 1: to tell you, there were times when I was like,

305
00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,480
Speaker 1: that was a mistake. We should have been forcing them.

306
00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,560
Speaker 1: I heard stories of some families where if you didn't

307
00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:35,880
Speaker 1: speak Spanish, you wouldn't get fed if you didn't speak Spanish, No, no, no, steed, oh,

308
00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,000
Speaker 1: you had to speak Spanish. And in our house, Hitman

309
00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,960
Speaker 1: would answer in Spanish all the time. And then I'd

310
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,280
Speaker 1: be lazy to be honest with you.

311
00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,320
Speaker 2: It does take effort. And Maria, you know who's making

312
00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,760
Speaker 2: an effort. Oh your brother, Oh my brother, Oh my God,

313
00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:51,800
Speaker 2: making an effort.

314
00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh.

315
00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,360
Speaker 2: Huh, well so so, But Bunny, did you guys sit

316
00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,200
Speaker 2: down and make a conscious decision that you wanted the

317
00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,560
Speaker 2: kids to speak Spanish.

318
00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,920
Speaker 7: I feel like my inability to communicate with Carlos's extended

319
00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,879
Speaker 7: family is something that I really don't like, and I

320
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,800
Speaker 7: don't want the kids to have to experience that. And

321
00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,960
Speaker 7: I think that teaching them Spanish from a very young age.

322
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,200
Speaker 7: It just seemed like any help we could give them, would,

323
00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,400
Speaker 7: you know, give them the courage to sort of embrace

324
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,640
Speaker 7: what is half of their culture and a language that's

325
00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:31,600
Speaker 7: very essential to it.

326
00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,960
Speaker 2: Well, so, Carlos, what happens when they get to an

327
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,800
Speaker 2: age and they're like, well, buppy, you didn't want to

328
00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,119
Speaker 2: speak Spanish growing up, so why do I have to?

329
00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,239
Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of like eating broccoli. I mean,

330
00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,080
Speaker 3: if I don't eat broccoli, they won't do it either.

331
00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,399
Speaker 3: So there's not really much I can say there. I

332
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,520
Speaker 3: think at the end of the day, I can make

333
00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,439
Speaker 3: a conscious decision to talk in Spanish to them, and

334
00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,240
Speaker 3: so if they want to communicate with me, they're going

335
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,240
Speaker 3: to have to understand it.

336
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,000
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa Very different from Carlos in part one.

337
00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 1: Yes, Carlo's Metallica. I'm going out on my skateboard and

338
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,720
Speaker 1: don't talk to me about Spanish.

339
00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,560
Speaker 2: Whoa Yeah? And Elena's favorite song is actually by Shiquita,

340
00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,520
Speaker 2: which is super cute. So as the kids grow, the

341
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,240
Speaker 2: pediatrician is constantly monitoring their language development. One of the

342
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,200
Speaker 2: things that Carlo's talked to her about was bilingual children and.

343
00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,240
Speaker 3: The one thing that they said is that the reason

344
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 3: why Elena understands me speaking Spanish, it's because I only

345
00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,960
Speaker 3: speak Spanish to her. The reason why she doesn't talk

346
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,080
Speaker 3: back to me in Spanish is because I give her

347
00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,520
Speaker 3: the opportunity to speak in English. Apparently, if I want

348
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,760
Speaker 3: to force Elena to speak in Spanish, I have to

349
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,040
Speaker 3: pretend I don't understand English. So one of these days

350
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,040
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe I'll snap and just say, you

351
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,640
Speaker 3: know what, Elena do medenus cabala and enespanol sola mante

352
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,000
Speaker 3: And if she wants to talk to her dad, she's

353
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 3: got to talk in Spanish. Between all of the tantrums

354
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 3: and everything else that goes on. That's a really hard fight.

355
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,159
Speaker 2: I haven't been a parent for that long, but I

356
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,440
Speaker 2: get that a lot of it is picking your battles,

357
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,480
Speaker 2: kind of like, do I want to go there? My

358
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 2: kid is throwing a tantrum? Do I really want to

359
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,920
Speaker 2: make them speak Spanish to me right now? But that's

360
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 2: the thing.

361
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,440
Speaker 1: Godless will have to make that decision, probably really soon

362
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 1: before Lena gets much older, and then it's just going

363
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 1: to have to be written in stone. And he's the

364
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 1: one who's going to have to kind of live with

365
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 1: that decision.

366
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,920
Speaker 2: So I am still curious. What was the light bulb

367
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 2: moment for my brother, Like what changed for him? Why

368
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now it's okay to pass on

369
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 2: your culture, when as a kid he was like, no,

370
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,239
Speaker 2: thank you.

371
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 3: What changed really was the fact that when I got older.

372
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 3: I mean, you start to think about your heritage, and

373
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 3: you know, you start listening to Spanish music on the radio,

374
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 3: and you start playing this kind of music for your kids,

375
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 3: and you want to give that heritage to your children.

376
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 3: So I kind of just said, you know, I can't

377
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 3: just keep being embarrassed and not worrying about it. So

378
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 3: I just said, I'm just gonna, you know, teach this

379
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 3: language to my kids, and your world opens up. I mean,

380
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 3: now if you can speak Spanish, there's so many countries

381
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 3: you can travel, there's so many books that you can read,

382
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 3: there's so many songs that you can sing. You can

383
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 3: just experience the world completely different.

384
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 2: I mean, do you recognize that you kind of like

385
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 2: pushed it away, Like why now I want.

386
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 3: My kids to connect to that at least in some way,

387
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,719
Speaker 3: and maybe they'll do the same thing as me. I mean,

388
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,360
Speaker 3: they're growing up in South Alabama. So I mean, they'll

389
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,199
Speaker 3: probably just go to a bunch of crawfish boils and

390
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 3: get a big truck.

391
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: But you can go to a lot of crawfish boils

392
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 1: and own a truck and still speak Spanish, right.

393
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 2: You can talk about the truck in Spanish. Insightful.

394
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: I think it's because I have a family now. Before

395
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 3: I think it was just about me. But now when

396
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 3: you have a family, it's not about you anymore.

397
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 2: When I think about it, Maria, it's about fear. Right.

398
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 2: As parents, we're terrified that our children aren't going to

399
00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 2: speak perfect Spanish, And as the child, you're terrified you're

400
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: going to be made fun of for not speaking it well.

401
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: And whether or not your kid learns to speak your

402
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: native language and learns to speak it with an accent

403
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: kind of depends on a lot of different factors that

404
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: are totally out of your control.

405
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, there's just so much to this issue.

406
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, whether or not you can get

407
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: back to your home country, whether or not you have

408
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: you know people who are able to speak Spanish full

409
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 1: time at home, whether or not you have people who

410
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 1: are able to speak really good English in the same home.

411
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely hard, but godless.

412
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm proud of him. I mean, he had a lot

413
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: of fear and a lot of embarrassment growing up, but

414
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 2: then he just kind of like had kids and was like,

415
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 2: you know what, it's not about me anymore. So I'm

416
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 2: going to kick the embarrassment to the curb and I'm

417
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 2: going to speak this language because I want them to

418
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: learn it. Imartin, imrting Martin. I'm going to keep singing

419
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: Spanish songs to him, just like my mom sang to me.

420
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: And I'm going to hope for the best, love.

421
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 5: You ask your.

422
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh bluggy.

423
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: It kag, Oh my gosh.

424
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: So that's little Martin and he's singing Lama. He's two

425
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: years old now.

426
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, all day long he sings and he puts the

427
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: words that he knows to the tune of la.

428
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: But it's all words in Spanish.

429
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: In Spanish.

430
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. That's what he feels most comfortable with

431
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: right now. Ya, So how's the Spanish thing going.

432
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: It's going.

433
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: The demos basubervien.

434
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: It's definitely harder than I thought because we speak Spanish

435
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: at home, so that's not hard. But he's regardless getting

436
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 2: exposed to two languages, so he's not speaking as fluidly

437
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: as I see other kids doing at his age. So

438
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: it's a little bit discouraging.

439
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, is that kind of like your own sense

440
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: of feeling discouraged or someone telling you you should be worried?

441
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: Oh, it's my own mom guilt.

442
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. There is this notion that you

443
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: get really worried, But really your son is more brilliant

444
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: than you can imagine because he's processing two languages at

445
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: the same time. And so it's kind of like, can

446
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: you just applaud yourself for doing that and for staying

447
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: or attempting to stay positive?

448
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I definitely try to remind myself

449
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: that I was kind of the product of the same

450
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: kind of upbringing, and I am speaking to you in

451
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: full sentences, so I guess I turned out okay.

452
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: Well, So, speaking of that upbringing, what's the latest with

453
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: your brother?

454
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: Things are going good with him, he has another baby. Hey,

455
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: they're still keeping up the same thing, you know, one parent,

456
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: one language.

457
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: And does he feel good about the decision about making

458
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: his family fully bilingual? Is he like one hundred percent?

459
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 2: Yeah? He says, the kids are listening to books in

460
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: Spanish now too, so I'd say he's pretty committed.

461
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Genie, So what are the next steps for you

462
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: and Martine?

463
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 4: He just started a tooth program which we're adjusting to,

464
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: but it's a fully bilingual program, so I'm very excited.

465
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 4: I think he's going to make a lot more progress now,

466
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 4: especially being around other kids.

467
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: But it sounds like you're doing the right thing. It's

468
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: more just like, how do moms who want to teach

469
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: their kids to be fully bilingual or stronger in Spanish?

470
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: First?

471
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,239
Speaker 1: How do we do it in a society when all

472
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,239
Speaker 1: you hear is English? So kudos to you for doing it.

473
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: Kudos to you for doing it. That's it for today.

474
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Gini Montalvo and edited by

475
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: Antonia Seedehidro and Marlon Bishop. It was mixed by Stephanie Lebau.

476
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: Fact checking for this episode by Zoe Malick. The Latino

477
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: USA team includes Julia Cruso, Jessica, Elis Victoria Strada, Rinaldo

478
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: Lanoz Junior, Andreopez Brussado, Luis Luna, Johni mart Marquez, Marta Martinez,

479
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: Nur Saudi, and Nancy Trujillo. Vanille Ramirez is our co

480
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: executive producer. I'm also a co executive producer of the

481
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: show and also your host, Martian Josa. Join us again

482
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: on our next episode. In the meantime, I'll see you

483
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: on all of our social media, especially an Instagram Yeste

484
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: la proxy Yes Bye.

485
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 8: Latino USA is made possible in part by the Heising

486
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 8: Simons Foundation. Unlocking knowledge, opportunity, and possibilities more at hsfoundation

487
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 8: dot org, Skyline Foundation and funding for Latino USA is.

488
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 8: Coverage of a culture of health is made possible in

489
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 8: part by a grant from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

490
00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm not internationally known, but I'm known to rock the microphone. Sorry,