Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: to cover a story like this, so I hope you'll
Speaker 1: bear with us. We're conditioned to see situations on the
Speaker 1: football field. You know, a normal injury, a player goes down,
Speaker 1: Teammates gather, take a knee, Sometimes an ambulance comes on
Speaker 1: the field. But when you see players, I being on
Speaker 1: the sidelines before, if there was ever an injury, a
Speaker 1: player's reaction would always tell me what that injury was,
Speaker 1: how serious that injury was. And that's when I knew
Speaker 1: it was a serious situation watching teammates, even the Bengals,
Speaker 1: reacting to what happened last night with Damar Hamlin. We
Speaker 1: have an update. This is the only update I have
Speaker 1: and it came early early this morning, the Bills giving
Speaker 1: an update on Damar Hamlin. He suffered at cardiac arrest
Speaker 1: following the hit in the game versus the Bengals. His
Speaker 1: heartbeat is restored on the field, transferred to the UC
Speaker 1: Medical Center for further testing and treatment. Currently sedated, listed
Speaker 1: in critical condition. Whatever information we give you will provide,
Speaker 1: you will provide a perspective. We will reach out to
Speaker 1: the appropriate guests if we can get those guests on.
Speaker 1: But we will cover the totality of everything that happened
Speaker 1: last night because it was a football matchup that we
Speaker 1: had long been waiting for. It's the Bengals and the
Speaker 1: Bills playoff ramification standalone game here and then what happened
Speaker 1: in the first quarter changed all of that. But there's
Speaker 1: still the fallout from this, obviously Damar Hamlin's health, and
Speaker 1: then you have to start looking at is this game
Speaker 1: going to be a tie? What do you do with
Speaker 1: this in the standings? It is important and the NFL
Speaker 1: has to look at this as well. We will show
Speaker 1: the sensitivity that is needed, at least I hope we will.
Speaker 1: And if you're with us, however long you're with us,
Speaker 1: please understand we are covering sports today. You tune in
Speaker 1: to listen to US covers Sports and there are other
Speaker 1: sports to cover. There's also you know what this means
Speaker 1: for the playoffs for these two teams? Can they play again?
Speaker 1: Could they somehow play this game? It's so late in
Speaker 1: the season, but there's a lot you know, it moves on.
Speaker 1: You went to work today, you might be going to
Speaker 1: school today. Life goes on. And we'll try to approach
Speaker 1: it that way. But when I started, when I watched,
Speaker 1: and I saw the hit and it didn't look like much.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, when Damar Hamlin got up
Speaker 1: and then went back down, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I started to look at the reaction from the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills players, and I thought, okay, did he suffer concussion?
Speaker 1: Because we're so accustomed to that, it's like, okay, that's
Speaker 1: the game. Then you take a knee, doctors come out,
Speaker 1: ambulance comes out. But when they had to perform CPR,
Speaker 1: that's when it hit. And what happens in the TV
Speaker 1: truck just so you know, they know the sensitivity of it,
Speaker 1: and then you start to take the wide shots and
Speaker 1: therefore you know you don't want to see the close
Speaker 1: ups of what's going on. And then Joe and Troy
Speaker 1: went to commercial break, and then they came back, and
Speaker 1: then they went to commercial break. I knew we were
Speaker 1: in trouble. Then I knew that there was something really
Speaker 1: serious there. But you're watching this and they couldn't add anything,
Speaker 1: And you know, you have all these players, they've never
Speaker 1: experienced anything like this. Yes, players get injured, ambulance comes
Speaker 1: on the field. I mean, how many times do we
Speaker 1: see this? Somebody gets injured, they cart them off, give
Speaker 1: us a thumbs up when you're like, okay, let's play
Speaker 1: football again. We're just conditioned for that. We're conditioned for. Well,
Speaker 1: that's just a number down there got injured. He's got
Speaker 1: a name on his back, and then we move on.
Speaker 1: That's what the sport is. The game starts, then the
Speaker 1: game didn't start back up, and then you started to
Speaker 1: wonder how long can you wait? Should you wait? Can
Speaker 1: you cancel it? What role to the coaches play in this?
Speaker 1: The captains play in this, the NFL in this, And yes,
Speaker 1: you do have a twenty four year old man who's
Speaker 1: on the field on his way to the hospital and
Speaker 1: we don't even know if he's going to survive. So
Speaker 1: there was so much that's thrown in there, and trying
Speaker 1: to sort through all of it makes sense of it.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the challenge trying to do this to
Speaker 1: make sure that you're sensitive and fair, but also you
Speaker 1: have to cover the totality of the NFL and everything
Speaker 1: else that happened last night in sports, and we'll try
Speaker 1: to do that. Phone calls always welcome h seven seven
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Speaker 1: long time and I worked the night that Hank Gathers
Speaker 1: passed away. Now that was not on national TV, and
Speaker 1: it was the West Coast Conference tournament. Hank Gathers Loyal
Speaker 1: and Merrymount. They were a wonderful, wonderful team, and Hank
Speaker 1: was one of the great players in college basketball. But
Speaker 1: he had hard issues. He had missed time earlier that year,
Speaker 1: got clearance to play, went up for a dunk, retreated,
Speaker 1: collapsed and died. And I remember doing Sports Center, but
Speaker 1: I didn't come on. I wasn't doing the game. It
Speaker 1: was later that night and we're covering it for Sports
Speaker 1: Center and we weren't quite sure what happened with Hank Gathers.
Speaker 1: There were still hope and then he passed away. But
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying kind of figure out, and you know,
Speaker 1: I could only imagine what it was like in that
Speaker 1: truck for ESPN Monday Night Football with Joe and Troy,
Speaker 1: Lisa's psalters on the field, you know, going back to
Speaker 1: the studio with Susie, I thought Booger McFarland did a
Speaker 1: wonderful job. It's like, no, let's cancel, we're not playing football.
Speaker 1: And he was right. But now what because we do
Speaker 1: move on? We will move on. Eight seven seven three
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Speaker 1: on tomorrow. Hamlin, Yeah, PAULI, yeah, I think what you
Speaker 1: said there is really your condition. When we were sitting
Speaker 1: there speaking for the danants watching the game, You're sitting
Speaker 1: there and you're waiting for good news from Troy and
Speaker 1: good news from fucking it just never happened. Um. We
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Speaker 1: it's crazy, you just mentioned before about how we're sort
Speaker 1: of preconditioned to certain responses like, uh, you know, all right,
Speaker 1: somebody's taken off on a card and I hope they're
Speaker 1: not paralyzed. Third down, Yeah, you know, you just keep
Speaker 1: going there. As soon as that hit happened last night
Speaker 1: and I saw Jamar Hamlin hit the ground and his
Speaker 1: hands went up, I was like, oh, fencing response. That's
Speaker 1: It's crazy that that's just an even part of our lang.
Speaker 1: I'd never heard of that until I don't know, probably
Speaker 1: to a yeah you know, but now it's just part
Speaker 1: of like, oh, fencing response. It didn't even you know,
Speaker 1: it registers as well. He's getting taken out of the game.
Speaker 1: It's just because it's the sport and what we've become
Speaker 1: accustomed to, and it's just like, Okay, we move on
Speaker 1: and now the game continues. But I want to know.
Speaker 1: I'm interested in knowing the role that the coaches and
Speaker 1: the captains played last night, because I'm guessing from just
Speaker 1: body language wise, and I do have a call into
Speaker 1: a source on this that the coaches and the captains
Speaker 1: got together and said we're not playing football. And I
Speaker 1: don't know what the NFL's role is I don't know
Speaker 1: what they said, because I know that Joe Bucks said
Speaker 1: four times last night, Hey, they're going to get a
Speaker 1: five minute warning to be able to come back. I
Speaker 1: don't know who told Joe that. The NFL said they didn't.
Speaker 1: I get the feeling. And if it's if it's true
Speaker 1: that the coaches and the players got together and said
Speaker 1: we're not playing football, then that was the right move.
Speaker 1: Some of the Bills players stayed in Cincinnati. But now
Speaker 1: we move forward. Yes, he's in a hospital bed, critical condition.
Speaker 1: Now what happens players going back to Buffalo? They got
Speaker 1: a game this weekend. What do you do with this game?
Speaker 1: You got practice? I mean, once again, life goes on
Speaker 1: for all of us today, no matter what has happened
Speaker 1: in our life. We have to move forward with this.
Speaker 1: And the Buffalo Bills are gonna have to do this,
Speaker 1: and the Cincinnati Bengals are gonna have to do this.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the NFL decides. I don't
Speaker 1: know what kind of contingency plans, but I'm thankful they
Speaker 1: canceled the game because it was the right move. Yah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the league is in a tricky spot there
Speaker 1: because right there are logistical things to think about, right,
Speaker 1: certainly time of the season, which insensitive to say, but
Speaker 1: it's it's the reality of it. And I mean it
Speaker 1: took the it took the ambulance thirty minutes to leave,
Speaker 1: you know, so once they kept coming back from commercial
Speaker 1: break and the ambulance was still on the field, I
Speaker 1: thought they were trying to save his life because they weren't.
Speaker 1: There was no reason to go to the hospital if
Speaker 1: they weren't going to save his life or at least
Speaker 1: get some vital size. That was the feeling I had,
Speaker 1: and especially the player reaction. Yes, that changed over time,
Speaker 1: where like you said, I mean, if we're preconditioned to
Speaker 1: understand these things, the players definitely know, Okay, somebody's hurt,
Speaker 1: let's get down on one knee, let's get in their
Speaker 1: positive thoughts for our brother, and then we'll get back
Speaker 1: to the game. But as that changed and you saw
Speaker 1: the reaction of players, you certainly got the idea pretty
Speaker 1: quickly it was way more serious. Yeah. Yeah, right after
Speaker 1: the ambulance left, it was it was very murky of
Speaker 1: what was going to happen where they gotta start playing again.
Speaker 1: You saw Joe Burrow was out there throwing the ball
Speaker 1: to stay loose or stay warmer for whatever reason. Then
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, the head coach of the Bengals, walked over
Speaker 1: to the other sidelines, which I've never seen before during
Speaker 1: a football game or any circumstances, and they start talking
Speaker 1: and covering their mouths, and You're like, Okay, they're deciding
Speaker 1: what's going to happen here or what, you know, at
Speaker 1: least for the next twenty minutes, what they're gonna do
Speaker 1: with their team. Moments after that, they went to the
Speaker 1: locker rooms, and I'm wondering if the NFL said, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: get ready, we're going to resume this game, and maybe
Speaker 1: the coaches in the captain said no, we're not playing,
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, I'm glad because it was
Speaker 1: the right call. There was there was no there was
Speaker 1: no need to be thinking about football in that moment
Speaker 1: last time. So once again the update this is according
Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills that Damarrow Hamlin suffered cardiac arrest,
Speaker 1: heartbeat restored on the field, and he's at the UC
Speaker 1: Medical Center undergoing further testing and treatment. He is sedated
Speaker 1: and listed in critical condition. There were a lot of
Speaker 1: people doing a lot of eight work last night. One
Speaker 1: was Joe Daneman. He is the sports director at Fox
Speaker 1: nineteen in Cincinnati. He was on the field and he
Speaker 1: was behind the scenes covering this, tweeting about it, and
Speaker 1: he'll join us coming up next. We'll take a break
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Speaker 1: I mentioned working the night that Hank Gathers collapsed and
Speaker 1: passed away with a loyal amount Merrymount basketball game. They
Speaker 1: didn't have a defibrillator there. Now it's in every basketball
Speaker 1: arena that was thirty two years ago that that happened,
Speaker 1: and a lot of medical personnel on the field last
Speaker 1: night did a wonderful job and saved his life or
Speaker 1: at least prolonged his life. And there are twenty close
Speaker 1: to twenty medical personnel that were attending to him in
Speaker 1: that moment, and the NFL having their procedure worked last night,
Speaker 1: and you know, to be in that moment administering CPR,
Speaker 1: and it also brought to mind Chuck Hughes was a
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, a wide receiver, tight end, and I think
Speaker 1: he died on the field and might have been in
Speaker 1: the end zone. But I just I, you know, it
Speaker 1: was kind of foggy last night as I'm just thinking,
Speaker 1: oh my God, like what is going on, and I
Speaker 1: immediately thought of that night a Hank Gathers, and then
Speaker 1: I thought Chuck Hughes back in nineteen seventy for the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. Also, Carson Palmer said something. This is a
Speaker 1: roundtable discussion that was with Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Aaron Rodgers. This is I think two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine. Peter King had a Monday Morning Quarterback column
Speaker 1: and Carson Palmer says, guys are getting so big, so fast,
Speaker 1: so explosive. The game is so violent, and now that
Speaker 1: they're cutting out the wedge deal on kickoff returns, these
Speaker 1: guys are coming free and at some point somebody's going
Speaker 1: to die in football. That's Carson Palmer, two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of people doing a lot of
Speaker 1: great work last night covering this, and one is the
Speaker 1: sports director for Fox nineteen Joe Daniman who joins us now, Joe,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. I know you're short on sleep,
Speaker 1: but where were you when this tackle took place? So, Dan,
Speaker 1: I was on the sideline near the end zone. And
Speaker 1: when the tackle took place, you mentioned it the medical
Speaker 1: stats for the two teams. That was what was most
Speaker 1: alarming to me was the urgency what they hit the field,
Speaker 1: and you know, we often see injuries on the field,
Speaker 1: but you don't see this kind of urgency from medical stamps.
Speaker 1: The way they ran to mar the way they ripped
Speaker 1: open the medical equipment that really started working on him immediately.
Speaker 1: From my advantage point, I could see them doing chess
Speaker 1: compressions and at that point that's when you started to
Speaker 1: see the teams gathered around him and you started to
Speaker 1: lose your vantage point to that. But they also administered
Speaker 1: an ad they shocked him twice on the field. You
Speaker 1: talked about the process the NFL has and having aeeds
Speaker 1: on the field there, and that was part of the
Speaker 1: process they used. But was striking to me was the
Speaker 1: reaction from the players. And look, whenever we see someone
Speaker 1: with a head injury or a spinal injury in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and that's part of the game. We understand that we
Speaker 1: wait for some kind of positivity from the player or
Speaker 1: the players around them, maybe a thumbs up. We're all
Speaker 1: waiting for that kind of moment. When you saw players
Speaker 1: turn away and cover their face with their jerseys or
Speaker 1: cover their face with their hands, you knew right then
Speaker 1: this was different in something we had never experienced before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd mentioned that having been on the sidelines for a
Speaker 1: variety of things. I usually look at the players. The
Speaker 1: players will tell you if a player is seriously hurt,
Speaker 1: and that's when I knew that this was really really serious.
Speaker 1: When did you start to get a sense of what
Speaker 1: was going to happen with the game itself? Once they
Speaker 1: told the teams to go inside, and they had not
Speaker 1: yet postponed at that point, they had suspended that you
Speaker 1: could see the reaction from the players that this was
Speaker 1: not a team equipped emotionally to go back on a
Speaker 1: field and play a football game within a few minutes,
Speaker 1: and to kind of give you an idea what was happening.
Speaker 1: As the players walk back into the tunnel dan towards
Speaker 1: their locker room, they could still see the ambulance that
Speaker 1: was waiting in the parking A lot because they were
Speaker 1: waiting for DeMar's mother to make it down from the
Speaker 1: stands to ride with him to the University of Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Medical Center, so they could still see the ambulance he
Speaker 1: was in at the end of the tunnel before it left,
Speaker 1: and you could just tell from the looks on the
Speaker 1: faces and the emotion from the players were not going
Speaker 1: to play this game. Within a matter of minute, Zach Taylor,
Speaker 1: the Bengals head coach, came over to their locker room
Speaker 1: to meet with Sean McDermott. The referees were there, and
Speaker 1: we had a good clue then that there was no
Speaker 1: way they were playing this game at that point. Did
Speaker 1: you have any idea that who was making this decision,
Speaker 1: because there's conflicting reports of the teams were told you
Speaker 1: got five minutes. Joe Buck said this, I think four
Speaker 1: times on the broadcast. The NFL Troy Vincent said, no,
Speaker 1: that was not the case. I didn't know what role
Speaker 1: the coaches the captains played in this. Can you sort
Speaker 1: any of that out for us? As far as what
Speaker 1: the NFL in their involvement, I can't. I can tell
Speaker 1: you the referees, Zach Taylor, Sean McDermott and members of
Speaker 1: the front office with the Buffalo Bills were outside of
Speaker 1: the Bills locker room discussing this pretty quickly after the
Speaker 1: announcement of the suspension of the games. So to me,
Speaker 1: that was a signal that they were there amongst each
Speaker 1: other talking about this. Sean McDermott didn't last long in
Speaker 1: that meeting. He was out there very briefly and then
Speaker 1: he went back inside the locker room be with his team.
Speaker 1: But Zach Taylor other members of the Bengals coaching staff
Speaker 1: were there with the referees discussing obviously deciding to postpone
Speaker 1: this game. But as far as the NFL's involvement in it,
Speaker 1: from where I was and my advantage point, I don't
Speaker 1: know how much involvement they had at that point, how
Speaker 1: much confusion was going on, not much, quite honestly, because
Speaker 1: there was. To me, the confusion was why why was
Speaker 1: the ambulance still in the parking lot. Look, we had
Speaker 1: the player on the field for for nine minutes with
Speaker 1: the chess compressions and the AEED and the players having
Speaker 1: to watch this, and a lot of times Daniel c
Speaker 1: guys go up to a player as they're leaving a
Speaker 1: field or being lifted into an ambulance or lifted up
Speaker 1: onto a stretcher. Go up there and tap him and
Speaker 1: tap him up and make sure he's okay and they
Speaker 1: know they have his support. Those guys were told to
Speaker 1: stay back, so that was different right there. But once
Speaker 1: they'd announced it that the suspension of the game was
Speaker 1: going to happen, it was very organized. The guys went
Speaker 1: back into the locker room. Both teams stayed in their
Speaker 1: locker rooms for a long time. It wasn't until they
Speaker 1: announced the actual postponement of the game that we saw
Speaker 1: some of the Bengals players then make their way from
Speaker 1: the Bengals locker room down to the Bills locker room.
Speaker 1: That included team captains. That included Joe Burrow who made
Speaker 1: his way to the Bills locker room. In fact, we
Speaker 1: saw Josh Allen then go to the Bengals locker room
Speaker 1: as well to meet with some of their players. Because
Speaker 1: the Bills stayed in Cincinnati at Paid Court Stadium for
Speaker 1: a long time. I mean this happened in the nine
Speaker 1: o'clock hour, they didn't leave. The buses didn't leave the
Speaker 1: stadium until twelve thirty, so those guys were there for
Speaker 1: a long time just to be around each other, to
Speaker 1: comfort each other in any way they could, And I
Speaker 1: think you see this fraternity of football players right where. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are Bengals players who played with him
Speaker 1: at some point, played against him, or with him at
Speaker 1: some point in the pre drad process. So I'm sure
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the Bangles locker room knew him.
Speaker 1: Not only the Bills were feeling this, but the Bengals
Speaker 1: players as well. Any sense of how many Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: players went to the hospital, No, I know Stefan Diggs
Speaker 1: was the one player that was the high profile player
Speaker 1: that did go there. As far as outside of him,
Speaker 1: I don't know of other players that went to the hospital.
Speaker 1: Any idea or the Bengals have any idea of an
Speaker 1: update on what's going to happen with the possibility of
Speaker 1: playing this game or how does it end. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a great question. That's something right now that I've been
Speaker 1: told by the team will be handled by the league
Speaker 1: at this point. Obviously, it's a very unique situation because
Speaker 1: we all understood and that's the weird part about this
Speaker 1: dam was this was supposed to be the showcase of
Speaker 1: everything that's going great right here in Cincinnati now with
Speaker 1: this football team playing great football, the Bills being the
Speaker 1: team that the Bengals are competing with trying to get
Speaker 1: that number one seed. So you have this joy and
Speaker 1: excitement of what's happening on Monday night football, and then
Speaker 1: this happens, and it's this emotional dichotomy of joy and
Speaker 1: excitement to sadness and curiosity of what's happening. But as
Speaker 1: far as what's going to happen with the game, at
Speaker 1: this point, we have not been given any information from
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals what they're going to do with this
Speaker 1: game against the Bills. Do you think the Bengals expect
Speaker 1: the Bengals will show up for practice where they or
Speaker 1: it was Tuesday going to be an off day for them.
Speaker 1: Tuesday's a dark day for the Bengals. They don't show
Speaker 1: up for practice today and there was no scheduled media
Speaker 1: availability today. They were supposed to be back in the
Speaker 1: building tomorrow for practice for normal media availability that will
Speaker 1: be released later today. If they're going to change that,
Speaker 1: what they're going to do, because look, we obviously all
Speaker 1: are curious and worried and hopeful for Damar, but at
Speaker 1: some point we have to figure out what's going to
Speaker 1: happen with the rest of this football season because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on the line here with the
Speaker 1: Bengals and the Bills and the Chiefs and the AFC
Speaker 1: and going forward. I just I don't know how these
Speaker 1: guys handled this emotionally. I'll share another anecdote with you, Dan,
Speaker 1: we were outside of the Bengals locker room. They moved
Speaker 1: all the media out of the tunnels and away from
Speaker 1: the locker room. There is a second exit from the
Speaker 1: Bengals locker room, and we could see Bengals wide receiver
Speaker 1: T Higgins. If you remember, he was involved with the
Speaker 1: play he caught the pass. He was the guy that
Speaker 1: Cameron was trying to tackle when he fell to the ground,
Speaker 1: popped up and collapsed, and T's mom was there and
Speaker 1: T's mom was waiting for him outside of the locker room.
Speaker 1: They shared an emotional moment he walked off. So again,
Speaker 1: you know it's not just the Bills dealing with this
Speaker 1: that there are. There are Bengals players who have never
Speaker 1: seen anything like this before trying to deal with it
Speaker 1: as well. Great job, Joe, Thank you. You're welcome, no problem.
Speaker 1: Joe daniman sports director for Fox nineteen in Cincinnati, Well,
Speaker 1: kind of gives you the sense of what was going
Speaker 1: on in real time, and he saw everything and then
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, now, what do we do as
Speaker 1: we move forward? And that's what the NFL has to do.
Speaker 1: You have to show the sensitivity of you have one
Speaker 1: of your players in the hospital and in critical condition.
Speaker 1: Now you have to you have to look at the
Speaker 1: bigger picture here with this as well. And that's what
Speaker 1: the NFL has to do. I always go back to
Speaker 1: when John F. Kennedy was assassinated and Pete Roselle was
Speaker 1: the commissioner and he played football games and regretted it
Speaker 1: the rest of his life. How long can you wait?
Speaker 1: Can you play this game? Is it a tie? What's
Speaker 1: it do for the standings? The Bill's got to play
Speaker 1: a game, you know, they gotta they gotta practice tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You gotta try to regroup the Bengals the same way.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how much maneuvering you can do
Speaker 1: with this schedule. Yeah. See, there was a soccer player
Speaker 1: named Christian Ericson who played for still plays for Denmark actually,
Speaker 1: but He had a very like apples to Apple's experience
Speaker 1: to what we saw last night where he in the
Speaker 1: middle of a game, collapsed the cardiac arrest and I
Speaker 1: believe died on the field. They were administering CPR, they
Speaker 1: had a defibrillator out, and then he about an hour
Speaker 1: later he you know, he had been taken off of
Speaker 1: the field and taken to a hospital. An hour later.
Speaker 1: He was reported to have been stable in the hospital.
Speaker 1: And they finished the game later that night, and it
Speaker 1: was it was very UEFA the people in charge of
Speaker 1: that We're scrutinized pretty heavily about the decision to continue
Speaker 1: the game later that night. And I think that the
Speaker 1: team was threatened with a loss if they refused to
Speaker 1: finish that game later that day, right, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: one of the There had been a report of that. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that player died on the field and they later
Speaker 1: resuscitated him. Yeah, and now heed him. He's returned to
Speaker 1: international play. He scored a goal with his first two
Speaker 1: minutes back, and now he's at Manchester United getting regular minutes,
Speaker 1: if not a starter, he's playing a full career. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: if you're watching what Jodan Adama was saying, there's a feed.
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of camera they had underneath
Speaker 1: the stadium ESPN had last night. You could see there
Speaker 1: was a bunch of officials talking, the actual officials, and
Speaker 1: then an NFL official was talking to the two head
Speaker 1: coaches and she was actually passing the phone around to
Speaker 1: who head coaches. People speculating that they're talking to their
Speaker 1: toy vincitor Commissioner Goodell. But that's how I guess tenuous.
Speaker 1: The situation was that they're passing a cell phone around
Speaker 1: underneath the concrete stadium, trying to make this decision for
Speaker 1: the entire both teams. Yeah, that's what I was wondering,
Speaker 1: that passing the phone around. What kind of cell service
Speaker 1: did you have? And this is an NFL rep who
Speaker 1: was there? And I don't know where the commissioner is.
Speaker 1: I don't know where anybody is and I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're sitting, you know, Park Avenue watching the game.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't heard anything from the commissioner
Speaker 1: of where he was, what role he plays in that
Speaker 1: this is this is unchartered territory here. Damar Hamlin has
Speaker 1: there's a go fund me page called the chasing MS
Speaker 1: Foundation community toy drive and he started that and the
Speaker 1: original goal was twenty five hundred dollars. It's pretty modest.
Speaker 1: It's currently over three and a half million dollars. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure the bills mafia is all behind this, all right?
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Speaker 1: this morning. Good morning Lucas, Hey Dan, how you doing alrady? Yeah? Hey? Um.
Speaker 1: You know one of the things that I was encouraged by,
Speaker 1: It's hard to use a word like that, seeing that
Speaker 1: last night was just the how professional that medical staff
Speaker 1: really kind of of both teams just kind of took
Speaker 1: over that situation and I couldn't help. But scenes man,
Speaker 1: I mean, the NFL has taken negative headline after negative
Speaker 1: headline for fifteen twenty years when it comes to head trauma.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean I just went and looked
Speaker 1: on the Bill's website. They got at least six in
Speaker 1: these six doctors full time on staff, and so maybe
Speaker 1: some sort of side effect, some sort of benefits that
Speaker 1: we have of all these struggles with medical issues of
Speaker 1: the last twenty years, provided a full team that you know,
Speaker 1: was able to keep Tamar alive last night. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean it felt like an emergency room feel, and
Speaker 1: you tell me twenty years ago, I'm not sure medical
Speaker 1: staff could have had that kind of capability. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to find silver linings and things
Speaker 1: like that, but what they did on the field last
Speaker 1: night was very, very impressive, and I really want to
Speaker 1: commend to all of that team in what they did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree mentioned that once they understood the severity, they
Speaker 1: were probably close to twenty different medical personnel out there.
Speaker 1: Having the facilities, having a defibrillator, you had all of
Speaker 1: the technology that you needed to help save his life.
Speaker 1: And it appears that they did it or they've extended
Speaker 1: his life just to get him to the hospital there.
Speaker 1: But when it was all hands on deck there, then
Speaker 1: you realized, and that's what they do. You know, those
Speaker 1: people when it calls for that, most people run away.
Speaker 1: They run towards it's like firefighters or police officers, first responders,
Speaker 1: and they did a wonderful job, wonderful, wonderful in that moment.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break. Got our play of
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Speaker 1: about falls unremarkable, incredible play by Donna Mitchell. Mitchell scored
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Speaker 1: night with basketball that Mitchell went for seventy one. He
Speaker 1: joins the club of seventy point scorers. Devin Booker, David Robinson,
Speaker 1: David Thompson, Elgin Baylor, Wilt Chamberlain did it six times. Also,
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson had fifty four points in the Warriors double
Speaker 1: overtime win against the Hawks. Yes, Paulie I got Donovan
Speaker 1: Mitchell with seventy one points. He also had eleven assists.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's the most assist by anyone scoring
Speaker 1: sixty or more, because that's hard to picture that he
Speaker 1: would also have that many assists. He also was two
Speaker 1: rebounds away from a triple double, which my guess is
Speaker 1: that the other gentleman who had seventy plus did not
Speaker 1: have a triple double. Well, how many assists did Luca
Speaker 1: have when he had sixty checking, because I think he
Speaker 1: might have had he had twenty. I think he bouncing
Speaker 1: twelve assists. He had a triple double. Yeah, but Donovan
Speaker 1: Mitchell quietly scored seventy one points. I don't know if
Speaker 1: the other players that you're talking about would have had
Speaker 1: anywhere near, you know, double digit assist because those guys,
Speaker 1: Devin Booker, David Robinson, David Thompson, el Jin Baylor, Wild
Speaker 1: Chamberlain not exactly known for passing the ball. Yes, Seaton,
Speaker 1: it's crazy you could have a player score seventy one
Speaker 1: points and still have to go to overtime, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he didn't do that in regular time,
Speaker 1: but you feel like if somebody is that hot, you're
Speaker 1: running away with the game. You're even seeing it to
Speaker 1: a degree. In college football, especially right now, teams are
Speaker 1: putting up a ton of points and still losing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's it used to be that it was,
Speaker 1: you know, commonplace you'd score one hundred and thirty, one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty points in the NBA or the ABA
Speaker 1: and then basketball changed, and then now it's come back
Speaker 1: with the three point shot, where on any given night,
Speaker 1: if somebody goes for fifty, it's become a lot more
Speaker 1: common place. Now seventy one is not common place. But
Speaker 1: Devin Booker did that a couple of years ago. Luca
Speaker 1: put up one of the great nights in NBA history
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. Yeah, just to always put
Speaker 1: it in perspective. Back to Michael Jordan the night he
Speaker 1: had sixty nine points against the Cavaliers. He only hit
Speaker 1: two three pointers that night. They were almost all twos.
Speaker 1: Here is Donovan Mitchell after scoring seventy one points for
Speaker 1: It's it's I don't I'm speeches to be honest with
Speaker 1: you when you when you say that, I think you know,
Speaker 1: I was like, man, like this is nuts to be honest. Um,
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm extremely blessed, you know, humbled that we
Speaker 1: I'm in that company, in that in that in that group.
Speaker 1: You know, I've always believe I can be, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the best players in this league. But I
Speaker 1: gotta keep working and this is just this is a
Speaker 1: big milestone. But at the end of the day, we
Speaker 1: got to continue to those guys have all one, you know,
Speaker 1: at the highest level, and that's my ultimate goal. But
Speaker 1: to be there in the record books with them is
Speaker 1: it's truly incredible. Yeah, that's a great company to join. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pulling Robin Lopez, the guy he comes out the bench
Speaker 1: for the Cavaliers, a big man, you know, with the
Speaker 1: curly hair. He goes. I'll always remember this as a
Speaker 1: night that Donovan Mitchell and I combined for seventy two points.
Speaker 1: He had one point. Well, he's playing off the old
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan Stacy King because Stacy had two. He said,
Speaker 1: you know, Michael and I combined for seventy one. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: it feels very Steve kerrlike too, Like he he has
Speaker 1: always had singers like that. Here's Donovan Mitchell uh offering
Speaker 1: up his support for Damar Hamlin. Thank you. I want
Speaker 1: to say, I'm um, prayers up for the for the
Speaker 1: Bill safety man. I heard about it. I didn't see it,
Speaker 1: but you know, I wish him and his family were
Speaker 1: praying for him, all of us in the locker room.
Speaker 1: Kevin Love actually hit me on it and make sure
Speaker 1: we all want to from the Cavalier organization, we want
Speaker 1: to wish the best in praying fairy thing goes well.
Speaker 1: So all right, and now the NFL is in unchartered
Speaker 1: territory of what do you do with this actual game itself?
Speaker 1: You know, you have to show the sensitivity to Damar Hamlin, obviously,
Speaker 1: but you also have to you're running a business here,
Speaker 1: and a business that affects millions and millions and millions
Speaker 1: of people and billions of dollars. And what do you
Speaker 1: do on this tuesday? Can you make a decision on
Speaker 1: this Tuesday? What do you do with the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: who have a game coming up this week? The Bengals?
Speaker 1: Can you declare this as a time And yes, it
Speaker 1: sounds callous, but you're running a business, and as I
Speaker 1: mentioned at the start of the show, you're going to work.
Speaker 1: We're going to work. Life goes on and you hold
Speaker 1: hold out hope for good news for tomorrow, Hamlin. But
Speaker 1: in the meantime, life does go on, and certainly for
Speaker 1: the NFL, you got the seatings with the playoffs. You know,
Speaker 1: the regular season ends in six days. Now what the
Speaker 1: NFL hasn't dealt with this before? And I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's a precedent here. Mike Floria from Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk will join us coming up next down, also to
Speaker 1: a Tonga Bayoloup probably is not going to play for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins against the Jets after suffering another concussion here,
Speaker 1: and I wonder if they would get into the playoffs
Speaker 1: if two is going to play football the rest of
Speaker 1: this year, and I'm wondering if he even should, but
Speaker 1: likely out. They have to win this game to have
Speaker 1: any hope of making that. They were eight and three
Speaker 1: at one point, they could end up eighton nine. He
Speaker 1: was an MVP candidate. Wow, Yeah, seton man. It's it's
Speaker 1: just a crazy like confluence of events maybe around everything
Speaker 1: with last night, because to me, even the too A
Speaker 1: story is kind of related to that in some way.
Speaker 1: There's this it's not lack of humanity, but in humanity
Speaker 1: to the game. It's just, you know, we talk about
Speaker 1: it's just inherently violent, right and people go out there,
Speaker 1: they know the risks that they're taking, but they're choosing
Speaker 1: to do it anyway. And it has really hit me
Speaker 1: about just how comfortable we are with some of those things,
Speaker 1: like TWA getting well, it's a second confirmed concussion, but
Speaker 1: we all know it's at least the third and that
Speaker 1: how they like I said before, that fencing response has
Speaker 1: just become part of the vernacular of NFL life. There
Speaker 1: is a real in humanity to it all. Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: just become and I don't want to say callous, but
Speaker 1: I think we become conditioned. And this is years and
Speaker 1: years and years, you know, watching this sport and the
Speaker 1: players come and go. You know, we stay the same.
Speaker 1: These players come and go. That quarterback's down, next guy
Speaker 1: comes up, another draft pick comes in. You know, they change,
Speaker 1: We don't. We just continue watching the games, you know.
Speaker 1: See and this is probably I haven't gone back and
Speaker 1: looked at it historically, but this is probably one of
Speaker 1: the safest eras of the games to play in when
Speaker 1: you think of that. Yeah, and you're watching the tackle
Speaker 1: and there's nothing that you know would alarm you and go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we've we've seen you know, there was
Speaker 1: a tackle in the Tulane USC game towards the very
Speaker 1: end where it looked like the defender and the wide
Speaker 1: receiver got knocked out on the field. They were both
Speaker 1: out on the field, like those are violent hits that
Speaker 1: one didn't feel like it was violent. And then what
Speaker 1: a brow what brought about the cardiac arrest. You know,
Speaker 1: was it the placement of t higgins helmet hitting Hamlin's chest?
Speaker 1: I don't know, and hopefully we get that opportunity to
Speaker 1: find out. Hopefully DeMar Hamlin can talk about that at
Speaker 1: some point here. But the NFL has to look at
Speaker 1: business now, and that's where you tiptoe a little bit.
Speaker 1: But you know you're gonna you're gonna have some I
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna have a press conference, so I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have some quiet meetings there with the
Speaker 1: park avenue and the commissioner. Yeah. Point. A lot of
Speaker 1: people this morning were discussing the game itself and how
Speaker 1: it's declared, and like you said, if it is declared
Speaker 1: a tie, which I can't think of any other fair
Speaker 1: declaration on the game, it would affect the AFC seatings
Speaker 1: in a number of ways. Yeah. Yeah, I know it's
Speaker 1: an un president this situation in this protocol and all that,
Speaker 1: But did you or any of guys feel like they
Speaker 1: should have called the game sooner than they did? There
Speaker 1: were starting a lot of people up in arms that
Speaker 1: are like, what are you doing? Just forget this game already?
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that he was still alive.
Speaker 1: That was the only thing I thought of, is I
Speaker 1: But the longer they stayed on the field with the ambulance,
Speaker 1: the more that I was worried that he wasn't going
Speaker 1: to be alive. When he left the stadium, I wasn't
Speaker 1: even thinking about the game. And even when the ambulance left,
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about the game. I didn't think that
Speaker 1: they could possibly play that game. And I'm getting the
Speaker 1: sense that the players and coaches played a larger role
Speaker 1: in deciding not to play that game. There's conflicting reports.
Speaker 1: Who told Joe Buck that they were going to give
Speaker 1: get five minutes to warm up, just resume the game,
Speaker 1: and Joe said it four times on the broadcast. Troy Vincent,
Speaker 1: who works for the commissioner, said, we didn't tell anybody anything. Well,
Speaker 1: somebody told somebody something, or somebody decided something where they
Speaker 1: weren't going to play football. And I get the feeling
Speaker 1: the coaches and the players were the grown ups in
Speaker 1: the room to say we can't we can't do this.
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine those Buffalo Bills players. I could not
Speaker 1: imagine saying, hey, go on the locker room regroup. That
Speaker 1: to me could be unsafe as well. Your head cannot
Speaker 1: be in a game like that, and even the Bengals players,
Speaker 1: you're shaken if somebody is dying right in front of you,
Speaker 1: whether he's your teammate or not, he's playing the sport
Speaker 1: that you play, he's in the game that you're in.
Speaker 1: This isn't a concussion. He's dying right in front of you.
Speaker 1: How does that not impact you where you go? I
Speaker 1: can't play football And hopefully, hopefully the NFL is able
Speaker 1: to come up with a scenario that seem fair to
Speaker 1: the situation. And I don't know what that is. Yeah, see, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's especially with the introduction of Thursday Night Football,
Speaker 1: the idea of rest between games has been a bigger topic,
Speaker 1: and people players have certainly been more vocal about days
Speaker 1: in between games. So now that even trying to squeeze
Speaker 1: in this game again circles back to being a safety
Speaker 1: issue for players and a health issue. It's a difficult
Speaker 1: call for the NFL, but it's unprecedented, that's the thing. Now.
Speaker 1: The whole thing last night was you know, in September,
Speaker 1: you have a chance with bye weeks or you can
Speaker 1: maybe maneuver a little bit ajut a little bit. Now.
Speaker 1: During COVID this happened, you know, things canceled, postponed. But
Speaker 1: here we are, six days away from the end of
Speaker 1: the regular season. Mike Floria will join us. Any updates
Speaker 1: we have will provide them for you. One hour in
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