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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Staley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck. Coming soon to.

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Speaker 2: Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's you live on a first Friday Miracle edition

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Speaker 3: of the program. Merely bo the great Z. How you living, Buddy? Well,

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Speaker 3: you were on. I was you were on and you

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Speaker 3: couldn't tell.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea, and I hate that even from

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Speaker 4: the tap it's a now a's tap.

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Speaker 3: You're not kidding.

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Speaker 4: Now, we truly need a light.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're told that that's in the works.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that made the final budget.

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Speaker 4: Come on, it's a thing that integrates with our current

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Speaker 4: system and is pretty easy.

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Speaker 2: Is I think?

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Speaker 3: I think Drew is on it.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure he is. He was in Fort Lauderdale this week, Vegas. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's got it all covered.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: There's a luminary he gets like that done. That's a

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Speaker 3: that's a large l the bego. Well, not right there though,

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Speaker 3: right there, right there.

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Speaker 4: He's on that. He's on that tier.

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Speaker 3: There's no question if you're tearing the luminaries. That's the

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Speaker 3: top tier luminary there. Yeah. Yeah, but I thought I

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Speaker 3: was under the impression that that Drew Dutton was going

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Speaker 3: to get you your get you your button. I thought

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Speaker 3: that's why he.

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Speaker 4: Was going to go poet and you don't even know it.

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Speaker 4: I thought Drew Dutton was going to get me my button.

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Speaker 3: That's right. I thought so too, and did not happen.

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Speaker 3: Apparently not all right, Well that's said you hate to

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Speaker 3: see it, you hate.

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Speaker 4: To see it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Gibbe is sometimes Gibbe can be a thief of joy,

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Speaker 4: so we don't know if he's just being a thief

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Speaker 4: of joy for fun or if he's I have no idea.

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Speaker 5: I dont know what the budget even looks like.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, but he had Honcho in there, so.

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Speaker 4: You immediately come in and are the mayor of negative town.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we were supposed to to get some other things,

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Speaker 5: and I know that those have been mixed.

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Speaker 3: So gods sake, I mean, you're in there.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna assume that, like those were almost a

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Speaker 5: lower priority and they got mixed.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like these are I feel like these

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Speaker 4: are priority one.

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Speaker 5: I just want to know how Drew's doing. It's been

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Speaker 5: a rough couple of weeks for him in Fort Lauderdale

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Speaker 5: and in Vegas. Real rough.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna tell.

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Speaker 5: You last week fourteen inches of rain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, like sounths, Florida not great.

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Speaker 4: He didn't have the time last week. I'm guessing he

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Speaker 4: didn't have what he was living.

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Speaker 3: And now he's in Las Vegas. Yeah, what's going on

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Speaker 5: That's the NAB Convention, I believe, or the Radio TV Technical.

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Speaker 3: Convention is out and he's in that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he and Connor? What could go Arthur K? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, what could go wrong there?

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Speaker 4: Nothing sad that Tequila Fila didn't get to make the trip.

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Speaker 5: I think it's probably better for Tequila Fela's liver that

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Speaker 5: he didn't make that trip.

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Speaker 3: True, his commitment to the mustache is awesome. The reason

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Speaker 3: for it is even better. So I'm a big fan

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Speaker 3: all right, so there you go. So well, at that

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Speaker 3: at that thing, that's where you'd find the buttons, would

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he showed me. That's what he documented it.

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Speaker 4: He said, it works, Eric, can I give you the place?

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Speaker 3: Give me the quote.

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Speaker 4: So he sends it and it's an on off light

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Speaker 4: and it says it might be closer than you think.

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Speaker 4: I said, on off, let's go. He goes, it's basically

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Speaker 3: Well, that seems like it's done.

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Speaker 3: I think done.

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Speaker 4: That was set on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a done deal.

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Speaker 5: I love how it's been communicated to you but not

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Speaker 4: Well, because he knows that he understands those who have

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Speaker 4: the zest for this and then those who don't, who

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Speaker 4: will put roadlocks, yeah in front of it.

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Speaker 5: The last thing that I want to do is cant

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Speaker 5: and you to listen to the queen over here complain

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Speaker 5: every day about his on off.

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Speaker 4: This is twenty twenty three, gibe. I don't think I mean.

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Speaker 3: Queen Elizabeth was a regal gal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, also had a Corgi, just like me.

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Speaker 3: Many corgi's she did, many corkies. Did you watch that show?

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Speaker 3: The Crown. Did you watch that on the Norfolks? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 3: Also not great as humans. No, that operation.

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Speaker 4: It feels like it's kind of a tough is there

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Speaker 4: I think probably, But there's parts of it that are

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Speaker 4: probably pretty annoying.

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Speaker 3: Right, but I feel like they create a nonsense.

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Speaker 4: But those tabloids are in their business.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, every but that's the price of doing business, Right's

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Speaker 3: the one thing.

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Speaker 4: For some people who were born into it. They're just

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Speaker 4: born into it, like you didn't have a choice, how

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Speaker 4: I sign up for it? And then if you do, say,

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Speaker 4: you know what, actually I don't want this life. I'm

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Speaker 4: not about this life that you're gonna get crushed even

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Speaker 4: too late? Yeah, and crushed too late? Yeah right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was watching though, Top Chef, Big Top Chef fan.

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Speaker 4: They're having World All Stars. It's been awesome and they

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Speaker 4: are in London and apparently the Queen has her own

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Speaker 4: official grocery store.

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Speaker 3: Which and only she can go to, or the people

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Speaker 3: like she's go there, and yes she's and she does endorsements.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's necesarily an endorsement as much as

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Speaker 4: it probably is. And that's also where she does her.

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Speaker 4: That's the only place that like her meals are sourced

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Speaker 4: from this shop. All shopping that's done for the Queen

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Speaker 3: Pretty good endorsement, and it looked like the.

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Speaker 4: Nicest gross store I've ever seen and has like everything

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Speaker 4: you want, every kind of caviare fresh truffles that they

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Speaker 4: shave for you right like it's got it knows no bounds.

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, as truffles go, eh, so.

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Speaker 4: One, I've had some fresh shaved truffles in Croatia as

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Speaker 4: a matter of fact. Yeah, and they're they're quite cheap

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Speaker 3: Like truffle oil, all that type of and that stuff

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Speaker 3: that's hugely priced. And there's such a distinct flavor to it.

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Speaker 3: It tastes to me like I'm eating earth mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: So I'll just give a little. That's fine, It's fine.

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Speaker 3: Listen subjective of course, just like when people cut what

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Speaker 3: should like? What type of bourbon you recommend? Well, I

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Speaker 4: What do you like? What do you give me the

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Speaker 4: notes you're looking for? You can help me some vanilla.

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Speaker 4: You can help help me, help you. Yeah. Do you

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Speaker 4: want some grass?

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Speaker 3: Not me?

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Speaker 4: Some people do. Some people like the taste of that. P. D.

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Speaker 3: Scotch Man will give you that. They love some grass,

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Speaker 3: burnt grass, smoky grass.

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Speaker 4: Disgusting, terrible, like anytime there's a wine. And sometimes Peanots

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Speaker 3: Like, sorry, out, I'll see the road man. No, I

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Speaker 4: Free, I could go look lick the dirt outru you

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Speaker 4: were saying, you push back, a little push back truff sauce.

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Speaker 4: Have you had truff the hot sauce?

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Speaker 3: I got a three pack of that for as a

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Speaker 3: Christmas and would you like it? Yeah, I'll bring it.

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Speaker 4: You didn't like it.

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Speaker 3: It didn't feel like anything i'd be into.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's delicious.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you throw a little that like eggs, but I

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Speaker 4: Okay, delightful on a crab cake. Okay, you're making a

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Speaker 4: little pesto ravioli with say a little lobster or some

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Speaker 4: portobellos inside of that. You have a little truff on there.

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Speaker 4: It is an elite sauce. The white one in particular

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Speaker 4: white is white is the best, Black is very very good,

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Speaker 4: more about hotter. First got it.

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Speaker 3: So maybe I'll give it a run.

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Speaker 4: Now, keep it, I insist.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not gonna eat the hot one for sure,

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Speaker 3: like the extra hot one. I'm definitely not eating because

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Speaker 4: So I keep white and red in my house at

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you're gonna get a nice little gift pack.

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Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna bring it in.

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Speaker 4: The first time I ever got was from Santa himself.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, next best thing, sand and al Yeah, got

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Speaker 3: Yeah closer, crupt, Yeah for sure. All right, Eh, here's

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Speaker 3: what I got for you. Let me run this by you, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Can you tell me why?

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Speaker 4: Please?

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Speaker 3: So there's there's a story on on ESPN right now

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Speaker 3: in the NFL page. The Panthers general manager didn't tell

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young he'll be the number one pick, okay, is

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Speaker 3: there's no way they're still deciding.

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Speaker 4: It feels doubtful. But if you recall, if you recall

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Speaker 4: when we had the number one pick at this time,

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Speaker 4: this the Miles, the friend of Dorsey, Yeah, was saying

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen. There was even some darn old talk it did.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't until the week of the draft. Yeah, that

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Speaker 4: Monday or Tuesday of that week that it became Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 3: And the reaction to that. I remember having lunch with

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Speaker 3: the Depot, who I've known for years, and it was

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Speaker 3: on the day where that started to come out, and

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Speaker 3: we were like, really, are we sure? Like this is

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Speaker 3: this is where this is going to go. But when

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Speaker 3: do you think the full dors knew that he was

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Speaker 3: taking Baker. I think I don't remember us asking him that.

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Speaker 4: No, And if you recall, we had also that at

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Speaker 3: That point I wasn't with you. I wasn't with you

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Speaker 3: until after he'd been until August of that year. So

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Speaker 3: I wasn't doing the show.

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Speaker 4: So are you doing at the depot?

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Speaker 3: I was doing Columbus here. Oh right, yeah, so that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You were because I was pressing Gibbee on this for

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Speaker 4: You do it.

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Speaker 3: Heck, you can do it on its own night, on

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Speaker 3: It would be huge.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of ways to do it, and it

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Speaker 3: it's just a no brainer. It's a it's easy content.

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Speaker 3: It's a huge It would be a huge interest, and

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Speaker 3: it would also prevent what happened with the Colts and

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Speaker 3: So for example, in the NHL, if you have the

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Speaker 4: You like that.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I'd love the theater be like thirty.

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Speaker 4: So if you're the worst, you sho have a one

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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's what we do here, right, like we

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Speaker 4: But I think that they you would have had I'm

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Speaker 4: You'd have a chance to have real discussions about.

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Speaker 3: This, regardless of however you think about it. In a

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Speaker 3: this provides it.

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Speaker 4: The other thing they need to do is go to

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Speaker 4: there's got to be a cap, like if you are

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Speaker 3: Well, that's how the NHL thing is. Like, if you're worse,

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that adds some intrigue to.

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Speaker 4: It adds a little intrigue. I'd almost in the NFL

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Speaker 3: Some when the NHL has a generational player like they

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Speaker 4: In the old second place. But he's always played right,

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Speaker 4: I went the third round. He went in the third round,

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Speaker 3: I do real quick. Last thing on the lottery. You

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Speaker 4: Luminaries just piling up the stairs.

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Speaker 3: I'll hear another look at them, luminary. There you've got

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Speaker 3: a Hue illuminate. That's his new route though, yeah, yeah,

443
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Speaker 3: instead of instead of yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think it's warps when the big l's are here.

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Speaker 3: I believe you have that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: This would be ideal if I could do anything in

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Speaker 3: the NFL schedule, I'm with you, eight in each sixteen team.

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Speaker 3: Eliminate the buy and then I would just go back

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Speaker 3: to sixteen games. That's fine, And I would also and

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Speaker 3: get rid of and do two preseason in your own.

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Speaker 4: There's a way that the sixteenth the sixteen team would

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Speaker 4: get one ball, maybe fifteen gets two balls, three balls

455
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Speaker 4: and so on until you but the deck would be

456
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Speaker 4: if you were first in my world, you get they

457
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Speaker 4: get like fifty percent of the balls, like sixteenth gets

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Speaker 4: literally a ball maybe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, moment minuscule, Yeah, like one ball. But there's got

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Speaker 3: to be there's a chance for them to move and

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Speaker 3: there even should be chance for you to go from

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Speaker 3: sixteen to ten. Sure, you know, usually to be able

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Speaker 3: to move up a little balls. Yeah, wherever it goes,

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Speaker 3: it's in the mix. Likely you're going to pick sixteen,

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Speaker 3: very likely, but highly you want a little bit of

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Speaker 3: drama there, And I think it was I'm in are

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Speaker 3: you as a as a man who went to a

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Speaker 3: fine private school such as himself. We were talking about

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Speaker 3: young and the quarterback stuff and the draft and all.

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Speaker 4: Of the you're talking about Steve your.

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Speaker 3: Boy, all of the inexact science around it. What percentage

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Speaker 3: let's do the uh wedding crashers, Nature versus nurture lodge

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Speaker 3: Nature always wins. How much of a quarterback success is

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Speaker 3: their own talent and how much of it is the

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Speaker 3: nurturing and the position they're put into.

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Speaker 4: Allow me to answer your question with a question, Oh,

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Speaker 4: if a quarterback doesn't have the requisite talent, can they

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Speaker 4: of course.

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Speaker 3: No, of course you have to have the rep you.

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Speaker 3: Of course you have got to be.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be a dude.

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Speaker 4: I think think that it is probably if we're assuming

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Speaker 4: that someone has the baseline talent to be an average

484
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Speaker 4: NFL starter as the baseline, and then within that sphere

485
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Speaker 4: you have super generationals mahomes ish type players. I think

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Speaker 4: Mahomes Mahomes. It still is possible that even Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 4: could be derailed by situation. You throw them on the

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Speaker 4: expansion Texans like David Carr. I don't know what Pat

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Speaker 4: Mahomes is. I think it is very easy to be

490
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Speaker 4: enhanced by situation. So I do think that in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: your situation you're coaching, all of that is probably as

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Speaker 4: important as your talent. Now, there is certain talent that

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Speaker 4: can lift up and look at I mean speaking of generational.

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Speaker 3: Yep, all right, in simplest terms, can any level of talent,

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Speaker 3: Can it's highest level of talent overcome a complete failure

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Speaker 3: in nurturing? So here and I would argue probably.

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Speaker 4: Not here I'm gonna give you. Here's what I'm gonna say. Okay,

498
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Speaker 4: fifty nine percent completions, twelve touchdowns, seventeen picks. Quarterback rating

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Speaker 4: of seventy one. Okay, sixty seven percent completions, twenty five touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: eight picks. Quarterback rating of ninety five point two. That's

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence year one, you're one year two.

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Speaker 3: Nature.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nurture, that's nurture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so. That's a that's a perfect

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Speaker 3: example of it. Yes, you could also give another one

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Speaker 3: would be the situations that Justin Fields has found himself

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Speaker 3: in versus the situation that Jalen Hurts has found himself in.

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Speaker 3: Fair because if you say, if the Eagles somehow ended

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Speaker 3: up with Fields, would Fields get this contract like Hurtz did,

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Speaker 3: My hunch is more likely than not he would have.

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Speaker 3: He was viewed so unanimously as a better passer.

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Speaker 4: Here's the variable to that that we don't know. And

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Speaker 4: the issue when you watch the tape of Justin Fields,

514
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Speaker 4: or when you talk to people who have watched significant

515
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Speaker 4: out they're like a great co seal, is that his

516
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Speaker 4: biggest issue seems to be processing. It seems to be

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Speaker 4: reading defenses. Knowing where to go with the football and

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Speaker 4: then delivering it.

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Speaker 3: But is that a product of the situation that he's

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Speaker 3: been in and a lack of trust in his offensive line,

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Speaker 3: a lack of trust in the receiver's catching the ball,

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Speaker 3: and a lack of trust and who's calling the plays.

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Speaker 3: Who you will recall his first year's year was Matt

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Speaker 3: Nagy who sent him to slaughter here. That was the

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Speaker 3: most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in the NFL. That

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Speaker 3: was malfeasance compared to Hurtz, who has been nurtured, built

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Speaker 3: around trust us. I mean, remember what Hurts was when

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Speaker 3: he first started there. I mean it was it was

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Speaker 3: a one read and go situation. Like they built towards

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Speaker 3: this now Hurts put in the work. But they also

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Speaker 3: drafted around him. They traded for aj Brown, they got

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Speaker 3: Devonte Smith, they could run it. They got the best

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Speaker 3: offensive line, one of the two three best offensive lines

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Speaker 3: in football. Like, I don't have an answer for it.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's interesting when you have the conversation

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Speaker 3: about what's the percentage point, because.

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Speaker 4: What their ascarity like. If he's playing last year for.

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Speaker 3: So, I'm tight, I like fields a lot. He's one

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Speaker 3: of my favorite players ever played all I say, we

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Speaker 3: know that, yes, when the draft, when that draft came around,

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Speaker 3: begging for Kyle please like and if he is there,

542
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Speaker 3: I think he's great, and I think he's You're having

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Speaker 3: the type of conversations you're having around Hurts if he's there.

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Speaker 4: The thing that's wild to me about Kyle passing on

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Speaker 4: him is that and Kyle's offense keep makes it very

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Speaker 4: simple for the quarterback, is it? In my mind, he

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Speaker 4: Kyle had to feel because there's no doubt that he

548
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Speaker 4: was more more proven, maybe perhaps even more talented than

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Speaker 4: Trey Lance. Yeah, that Kyle had to feel like that

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Speaker 4: he was not capable of operating his offense effectively.

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Speaker 3: He clearly did. I mean, there's no other reason for it.

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Speaker 4: I would even say when you look at certain quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: You know, even in our system, for example, like when

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Speaker 4: we have Baked Baker, in certain situations was able to

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Speaker 4: be very very effective. But there are other times where

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Speaker 4: he didn't see the things that you know you needed

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Speaker 4: for this offense to be fully effective. And so part

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Speaker 4: of the things that's limited him is not arm talent,

559
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Speaker 4: it's not leadership, it's frank its ability to read defenses.

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Speaker 4: Process what's going on and then throw yourself into the

561
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Speaker 4: solution out of it. Every coverage has a spot where

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Speaker 4: the ball should go, and you know, so on and

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Speaker 4: so forth. So I don't know. Do I think that

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Speaker 4: Fields was a higher, more highly regarded prospect than obvious

565
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Speaker 4: than Jalen Hurt's coming out? Obviously, I don't know there's

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Speaker 4: any question, but Jalen Hurts seems to be some type

567
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Speaker 4: of a special human being from a leadership standpoint, from

568
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Speaker 4: his strength and superhuman feats, Like everybody seems to love him.

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Speaker 4: There's never been and I don't know that anybody anything

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Speaker 4: about Field.

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Speaker 3: Fields would be similar. I mean, he was universally beloved

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Speaker 3: at Ohio State from a character standpoint, leadership, all of that,

573
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Speaker 3: Like Justin Field's went on the Today's Show to say,

574
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Speaker 3: help save the Big Ten commissioner tried bailing on the league,

575
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Speaker 3: and like he had that type of juice to him

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Speaker 3: to be able to do it. I think there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of parallels between the two of them. Fields is

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Speaker 3: a far more accomplished quarterback totally at Ohio State than

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts ever was at Alabama. Hurts had a really

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Speaker 3: good year at Oklahoma, but it was primary as a runner.

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Speaker 3: I think he ran for twelve hundred yards at Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: that that one season.

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Speaker 4: He went in the second round, and it was kind

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Speaker 4: of a shocking pick at yeah time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, I think when you think about these

586
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Speaker 3: guys in this spot that they're all in and you

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Speaker 3: think about going number one, if you have to have

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Speaker 3: the minimum talent to be able to play, but I

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Speaker 3: don't know that there's any level of talent that can

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Speaker 3: overcome a poor management of that talent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like if you're if you're looking at the places

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Speaker 4: that couldract.

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Speaker 3: If you have if you have the baseline minimum to

594
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Speaker 3: be quarterback in the league, in the proper nurturing, you

595
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Speaker 3: can have a ton of success. Look at brock Purty.

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Speaker 4: Brock, That's what say, Brock Purty. You put brock Purty

597
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Speaker 4: on Carolina last year, Houston last year.

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Speaker 3: That's why I think when we talk about like Darnald

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Speaker 3: and San Francisco, we're going, boy, it's there.

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Speaker 4: Yes, there's a decent piece of clay, no doubt. Well, no,

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Speaker 4: you're totally right. That's why I pulled up Trevor Lawrence's stets.

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Speaker 4: I mean that is that's Trevor Lawrence is Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but they almost ruined it him. That was ruined him,

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Speaker 3: and the con family at least was smart enough to say,

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Speaker 3: we've got to stop this. Yes, is Dane up next?

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Speaker 3: A little bit of Dane Brugler up next in the Athletic,

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Speaker 3: A little bit of the Beast is.

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Speaker 5: get to him on time?

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Speaker 3: Keep it twisted, Cleveland, Dane. Thanks so much for taking

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Speaker 3: the time. But let's just start before we get into

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Speaker 3: specific so on. I mean, we want to pick it

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Speaker 3: on the third round, So a lot of variables here

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Speaker 3: from our perspective. When you think of this draft in totality,

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Speaker 3: where does it stack up with rech recent drafts and

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Speaker 3: what are the strengths and weaknesses positionally in this draft?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, anytime you great a draft overall, I

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Speaker 8: think it really you have to do position by position

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Speaker 8: because some some positions are stronger than others, some positions

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Speaker 8: are deeper than others.

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Speaker 6: Do you take wide receiver? For example?

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Speaker 8: The number one wide receiver this year might have been

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Speaker 8: the seventh wide receiver drafted last year, and so it's

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Speaker 8: not a top heavy group this year, but there's still

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Speaker 8: talent to be had in that late first into Day two.

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Speaker 8: Quarterback obviously commands all the attention, all the all the

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Speaker 8: all the talk, and and rightfully so we're going to

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Speaker 8: see four go pretty early, including Bryce Young number one

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Speaker 8: of the Panthers, and then that the intrigue really starts there.

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Speaker 6: With Houston at two. Do they take a quarterback? Do

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Speaker 6: they pass do.

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Speaker 8: They trade a lot of intrigue there. This is a

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Speaker 8: deep running back group. You know, Bijon Robinson from Texas

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Speaker 8: is going to be somewhere in those top twenty five picks,

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Speaker 8: one of the best talents in this draft. But it's

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Speaker 8: a deep running back group. We're going to see a

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Speaker 8: run of those guys in the third round, even into

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Speaker 8: the four round. And I feel good about the running

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Speaker 8: backs that will be available that early Day three, So

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Speaker 8: I think overall, you know, it's a I think it's

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Speaker 8: a pretty deep group on Day two, so you know,

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Speaker 8: the Browns having two third round picks, I think they

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Speaker 8: feel pretty good about the guys that could be available

657
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 8: for them there. Day three is the little thin. Now,

658
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 8: certain positions will stretch a little bit, but overall, I

659
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 8: think it's more of a thin Day three type of draft,

660
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 8: which could make for some some surprises at that point,

661
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 8: but you know, it's once you get to Day three,

662
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 8: all bets are off anyways, Always always some surprises there.

663
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: All right, Dane, let's talk about some of the positions

664
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: that the Browns we think could be interested in and

665
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: in your seven round mock, which is an unbelievable labor

666
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: of love coming off of the beast itself. You have

667
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 4: the defensive line be the focus of both picks. Gervin Dexter,

668
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: the defensive tackle out of Florida, and then yah ya

669
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: Diabi did I say that right? Yeah, the out of

670
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 4: Louisville at the edge spot. So let's just kind of

671
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 4: live in that third round there you mocked it out,

672
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 4: so that was in your mind obviously the best defensive

673
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: tackle for the Browns. Browns fans, who should they be

674
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: looking for in that third round? And let's start with

675
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 4: the defensive tackle position. Who are some of the names?

676
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: And you know there was a guy at Wisconsin is

677
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 4: it Benton? I feel like, yeah, that's somebody that I

678
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 4: know I've heard. You know, the Browns could be interested

679
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: in him. What are the names kind of and who

680
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: do you like in that third round? Who's kind of

681
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: like your home run scenario for the Browns if it's

682
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 4: a defensive tackle? And then who? How did you end

683
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: up on Dexter for the Browns there at seventy four?

684
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, And obviously it hit a lot depends on what

685
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 8: happens at those first seventy three picks, and it's always

686
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 8: tough to project that if you're a team like the Browns,

687
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 8: and you're you're waiting and you're crossing your fingers that

688
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 8: this guy is gonna follow that guy. A lot of

689
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 8: teams need defensive tackle help, and so it's going to

690
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 8: be interesting which defensive tackles make it all the way through.

691
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 8: A guy like Keanu Benton know he's going to be

692
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 8: There's a lot of teams in that second round. I

693
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 8: could use a guy Thatt six y four, three d

694
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 8: and ten pounds interchangeable. You know he's a nose tackle

695
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 8: for Wisconsin, but he's interchangeable. You want to play the

696
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 8: three over the B gap, you want to play more

697
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 8: of a nose or play more of a one technique.

698
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 6: He can do that as well. He has the power.

699
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 8: He's a former heavyweight high school wrestler, state runner up,

700
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 8: but he has quickness to him. We saw that during

701
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 8: Senior Bowl practices during one on ones where he was

702
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 8: able to win with quickness, win with his hands. So

703
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 8: I think he has when you just look at the athleticism,

704
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 8: you look at the power, he has the foundational traits

705
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 8: to come in and be a strong part of a rotation.

706
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 8: He was off the board in my mock draft that

707
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 8: I did, but Dexter was there. Jervon Dexter Senior. He's

708
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 8: a twenty one year old young player, just a third

709
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 8: year junior, a little late to football. He played football

710
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 8: growing up, but he was mostly a basketball guy. He

711
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 8: didn't fully commit to football and new year in high school.

712
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 8: Six five and a half, three ten, I mean big,

713
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 8: big dude play a lot of nose tackle for Florida,

714
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 8: a little bit out of out of position. I mean,

715
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 8: he's a guy you want, you know, using that leverage,

716
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 8: using that length that he offers, and he plays with

717
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 8: terrific body control. You know, what we saw at Florida

718
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 8: was good, but there's he has yet to play as

719
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 8: best football I mean there. Once the coaches get their

720
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 8: hands on a guy like this, you can really tap

721
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 8: into more that he has to offer. So this is

722
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 8: an ascending player that I feel like you're getting. You're

723
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 8: kind of buying low, hoping that he can reach his

724
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 8: potential because this is a guy we thought coming into

725
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 8: the year maybe he could even be a first round

726
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 8: pick because he has the talents.

727
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 6: The former five star guy.

728
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 8: It's just a matter of getting there, and didn't quite

729
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 8: get there this year. But you feel like he has

730
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 8: it in him.

731
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a true you. I think we're all kind

732
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: of in a similar spot here when you think about

733
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: the defensive line and you think about it's interesting. So

734
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: we're picking at seventy four and then again in the

735
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: third round at ninety eight. Last year seventy eight, we

736
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: took a defensive end Alex Wright, just in terms of

737
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,479
Speaker 3: just general talent and where they stack up. Where where

738
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 3: would right fit in with where you're where the defensive end,

739
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: defensive defensive end specifically talent would line up in this

740
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 3: year's draft.

741
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 8: Probably pretty similar, you know, in that that mid mid third.

742
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 8: You know, we know pass rushers, they always go right.

743
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 8: You know, everyone needs them. Everyone uh wants a pass rusher.

744
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if it's a project or a polished guy.

745
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 8: I mean, you you want pass rushers. Adam to the mix,

746
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 8: Addam the rotation. And you know this year it's not

747
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 8: gonna be any different. We're gonna see these guys come

748
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 8: off the board, uh quickly in the first round, second round,

749
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 8: third round. And I think he'd probably still be in

750
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 8: that third round mix. And you know, a guy that

751
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 8: you're optimistic for the future and what he could be

752
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 8: and you know, really long player, you know, young, still learning,

753
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 8: and so I think you're you're looking for that jump

754
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 8: in year two from Alex Wright and you know, and

755
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 8: if you're still looking for more defensive line help. You know,

756
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 8: this is a this is a draft where it's a

757
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 8: it's a strong group man. I had him taken Yaya

758
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 8: Dabi with that second third rounder. D'abi at a little older,

759
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 8: you know, we know that kind of goes against what

760
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 8: the Browns usually do. But the Brown's gonna have to compromise.

761
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 6: A little bit.

762
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 8: This is an older draft class when you factor in

763
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 8: the COVID year and a lot of the you know,

764
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 8: it's just not as many underclassmen came out this year.

765
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 8: It's a little bit of an older class and so

766
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 8: you have to compromise a little bit. But Dabi's a

767
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 8: guy that even though he is a little bit older,

768
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 8: already twenty three years old, his football development is still

769
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 8: pretty young. He is a guy that after high school,

770
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 8: he was working at the airport, you know, he was

771
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 8: not sure what his future held, was able to get

772
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 8: a try on at a local juco and next thing

773
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 8: you know, he's at Louisville and he got better and

774
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 8: better every single year had a one to five to

775
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 8: one ten yard split at the combine. It's remarkable. I meant,

776
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 8: that's corner back time for you're split and he did

777
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 8: it at two hundred and sixty five pounds. So this

778
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 8: is a guy you just when it comes to defensive

779
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 8: lineman and pass rushers, just keep adding these guys to

780
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 8: the mix. Adams a rotation. Drafted a couple last year.

781
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 8: I fully expected to draft a few more this year.

782
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 4: All right, I want to ask a similar question to

783
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: what you asked about Alex Right, but go back you

784
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: mentioned the receivers early, and then I'll follow up into

785
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: a different position and a different potential path for the

786
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: Browns in that third round. But like, where was what

787
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: was your great on Elijah Moore coming out? And where

788
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 4: would that have ranked in this year's wide receiver class.

789
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 8: How was a big fan of Elijah Moore? I mean

790
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 8: he was just a guy you wanted to get the

791
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 8: ball in his hands, right, I mean, just let him create,

792
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 8: let him go make something happen. I mean he was

793
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 8: the engine of that Ole Miss offense, that Lane Kiff

794
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 8: and offense. You know, just kind of feed him and

795
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 8: see what happens. So I definitely applaud the Browns for

796
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 8: going out and getting him for the price that they did.

797
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 8: I know, he didn't show a ton with the Jets.

798
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 6: And he's a certain type of player. He's underside.

799
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 8: He's five nine and a half, right around one hundred

800
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 8: and eighty pounds, but he's a guy that you find

801
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 8: you manufacture ways to get him the football because his

802
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 8: ability to use that speed. He's a four to three athlete,

803
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 8: but he understands more so than just like the pure

804
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 8: speed aspect. He understands how to use his gears so

805
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 8: he can throttle up, throttle down, get defenders off balance,

806
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 8: throw off those angles.

807
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 6: He's very with his routes.

808
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 8: He's very controlled, but he's very urgent with the way

809
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 8: he moves out there, so he gets where he's going quickly,

810
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 8: but he's always under control. You see that with him.

811
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 8: That was a common theme. So you know, he might

812
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 8: not be the most well rounded receiver in terms of

813
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 8: you know, down the field and working the intermediate part

814
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 8: of the field and and all that.

815
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 6: But he is athletic. He's I think as an underneath

816
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 6: route runner, he's above average and he.

817
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 8: Could just be that that flexible chess piece where you know,

818
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 8: you can use them across the formation, use them in

819
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 8: the backfield, make the defense account for him on every snap.

820
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 8: I think that that's what he brings to your offense.

821
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: Would he have been based on where you're to be?

822
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: Like him and Jackson Smith and Jiggla, would they have

823
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: been the top receivers in this draft for you?

824
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 8: He would be probably in that mix with you know,

825
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 8: like a Jay Flower, like Dave Flowers offers probably a

826
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 8: little bit more as a three level threat.

827
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 6: But yeah, this is such a such a you know, a.

828
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 8: Weird wide receiver class because all these guys are a

829
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 8: little bit different. They're all in that late first early second.

830
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 6: You know. It's again, it just depends.

831
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 8: On the type of receiver that you want, because what

832
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 8: he offers is Elijah Moore offers is a little bit

833
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 8: different than Jackson Smith and jig but a little bit

834
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 8: different than Jay Flowers. But I think, yeah, he would

835
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 8: be somewhere in that mix of, you know, right there

836
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 8: with Jay Flowers and Smith and Jigba Jordan Addison. I

837
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 8: think different teams would stack them just a little bit differently,

838
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 8: but they'd all be in the same type of same

839
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 8: type of buckets.

840
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 4: All right, I and this is obviously based on nothing,

841
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 4: but I've gotten in my mind. You know, Kareem Hunt

842
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: has moved on, Dearanis Johnson has moved on. You've gotten

843
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb and you've got Jerome Ford, and obviously you

844
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: need to start thinking about this year as well as

845
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: the future. Right with the running back position, it's just

846
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: the nature of the beast. And I think we all

847
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: were very impressed with what we saw from Jerome Ford

848
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 4: last year, and he's the early favorite to be the backup.

849
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 4: But if the Browns were to go into the third

850
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: round and select a running back that could be the

851
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 4: running back you know, back up now, but also the

852
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 4: running back of the future. There are a couple guys

853
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 4: that I keep feeling like might be good fits. I'm

854
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: curious to get your take on it. One would be

855
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: Tank Bigsby and then the other Moshawn Johnson out of Texas.

856
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: Big strong guys, and I know Bigsby great in his

857
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 4: own scheme that at Auburn. What do you think of

858
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 4: those guys and what do you think of that idea

859
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: the Browns could maybe go running back there in the

860
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 4: third round and the quality of talent in that third

861
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 4: round that would be available to them.

862
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 8: If Jon Robinson, you know that he's going to go

863
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 8: in the first obviously, but one of the reasons why

864
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 8: it's tough to project where he's going to go, oh

865
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 8: is I think a lot of teams look at the

866
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 8: depth of this running back lass and they say, I mean,

867
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 8: we love Beijon, but you know, let's get our tackle here,

868
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 8: or let's get our corner here, and you know, we

869
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 8: feel good about the running back. Third round, fourth round,

870
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 8: fifth round. So you know, I think the Browns, you know, obviously,

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Speaker 8: if they take you know, a running back with that

872
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Speaker 8: first pick, that I think fans would be they would

873
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Speaker 8: meet that with a little bit of a mixed reaction.

874
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Speaker 8: But I think that, you know, the way they want

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Speaker 8: to run the football, I can understand if that they

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Speaker 8: want to add a running back at some point during

877
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Speaker 8: the draft, and we're.

878
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Speaker 6: Going to see a run on these guys in the

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Speaker 6: third round. Ty J.

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Speaker 8: Spears from Tulane will be off the board somewhere in there,

881
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Speaker 8: and the two guys you mentioned are right there as well.

882
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Speaker 8: Tank Bigsby from Auburn at five to eleven and a

883
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Speaker 8: half two hundred and ten pounds. You know, watching that

884
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Speaker 8: Auburn offense, it just it felt like Bigsby felt like

885
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Speaker 8: he had to do everything because he wasn't getting the

886
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Speaker 8: blocking up front, The passing game was nonexistent.

887
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Speaker 6: It was all on Bigsby to go.

888
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: Make a play.

889
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Speaker 8: And so, you know, I think that his best football

890
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Speaker 8: is ahead of him one he gets into an offense

891
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Speaker 8: where he actually has some talent around him to.

892
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Speaker 6: Go create, go make plays. You know for a bigger back.

893
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Speaker 8: He runs with speed, he's you know as a receiver.

894
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Speaker 8: He showed that he can be a capable screen guy.

895
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Speaker 8: He can fit you know with the Browns expect of

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Speaker 8: their running backs. So the natural power, the body control,

897
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Speaker 8: the balance. Love that from Tank Bigsby. Roshawan Johnson. You

898
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Speaker 8: know he's quote unquote the other back from Texas, but

899
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Speaker 8: you know he's he's very much in that top one

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Speaker 8: hundred discussion as as a player that teams have their

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Speaker 8: eye on as being a playmaker in the NFL. His

902
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Speaker 8: former quarterback, six foot, two hundred and twenty pounds, big guy, physical.

903
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Speaker 6: Characters off the charts.

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Speaker 8: And one thing you love about Roshan Johnson is he's

905
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Speaker 8: going to step in from day one make an impact

906
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Speaker 8: on special teams as a gunner, be a four core

907
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Speaker 8: special teamer, be great for your locker room, and then

908
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Speaker 8: whatever you ask of him.

909
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Speaker 6: He wanted to run the wildcat, you wanted to.

910
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Speaker 8: Run routes, he will do whatever you want. He is

911
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Speaker 8: the quint essential backup running back, reliable, dependable, and versatile.

912
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Speaker 8: So he can do everything across the board. So I

913
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Speaker 8: could certainly understand why you know a team like the

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Speaker 8: Browns could be interested in Roshawn Johnson there in the

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Speaker 8: third talking to.

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Speaker 3: The great Dane Brugler of the Athletic He's joining us

917
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Speaker 3: on the Twisted Tea Hotline brought to you by Twisted

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Speaker 3: T hardeed T, official sponsor of the Cleveland Browns. Keep

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Speaker 3: it Twisted, Cleveland. I'm looking at your seven round mock

920
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Speaker 3: for us, and you know, I think some of these

921
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Speaker 3: things are things that we talk about too. We talk

922
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Speaker 3: about slot corners, and is that a position? We talked

923
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Speaker 3: about the defensive line, we talk about we haven't talke

924
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Speaker 3: about safety. Let's stay with corner though. Just for a second,

925
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Speaker 3: you saw, I see Jammie Robinson out of Florida State

926
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Speaker 3: you have in the fourth round, and then you have

927
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Speaker 3: Jacryan Bennett, the corner out of Maryland, those two guys specifically,

928
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Speaker 3: and of course to your point, like you gotta know

929
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Speaker 3: what's going to happen the previous one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: five picks. But if it is, though to those two guys,

931
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Speaker 3: give me a little bit on both of them and

932
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Speaker 3: then those positions at that point in the draft, what

933
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Speaker 3: are you looking at?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Jamie Robinson he is kind of that nickel where

935
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Speaker 8: you know, he gives you a little bit of versility

936
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Speaker 8: where he can play the post, could play the nickel,

937
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Speaker 8: little undersize, he's five ten and a half hundred ninety pounds,

938
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Speaker 8: and you know, I love Brian Branch out of Alabama.

939
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Speaker 8: He's he's the best safety slash nickel you know dB

940
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Speaker 8: in this draft, and he's gonna go somewhere in the

941
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Speaker 8: first round. Jamie Robinson's kind of the third or fourth

942
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Speaker 8: round version of that where not the biggest, not the

943
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Speaker 8: fastest ran in the four fives at the combine, but

944
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Speaker 8: he plays with his hair on fire. He gets where

945
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Speaker 8: he's going in a hurry. He reads, reacts with just

946
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Speaker 8: a tremendous quickness. You want, and especially in the secondary,

947
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Speaker 8: you want quick reaction players. They're not guessing. They're not

948
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Speaker 8: thinking too much. They are reading, reacting and going and

949
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Speaker 8: making plays. And that's what Jamie Robinson does. He can

950
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Speaker 8: do it from depth, he can do it as more

951
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 8: of a nickel, you know. He can do all these

952
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Speaker 8: different things that you know you're looking for in your

953
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Speaker 8: secondary a versatile piece. And so I think Robinson's a guy.

954
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Speaker 8: If he's there in the fourth round certainly make a

955
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Speaker 8: lot of sense. And then I had n't taken Jakorian Bennett,

956
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Speaker 8: who you know, you want to add depth to the

957
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Speaker 8: cornerback room.

958
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Speaker 6: I know they've got a pretty good, pretty.

959
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Speaker 8: Good room right now. But you had a guy like

960
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 8: Jakorian Bennett on Day three. Not the biggest guy, five

961
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 8: just under five eleven, under one hundred and ninety pounds.

962
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Speaker 6: But you love the.

963
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Speaker 8: Speed, you love the toughness, you love his ability to

964
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 8: get his hands on the football. Over the last two years,

965
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Speaker 8: twenty nine passes defended combined. So a guy that is

966
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Speaker 8: the right place right time. You know, Maryland they had

967
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Speaker 8: a few of these corners. Deontay Banks is going to

968
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 8: be a first round er. Jakoorian Bennett belongs somewhere in

969
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Speaker 8: the in the first four.

970
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Speaker 6: Or five rounds.

971
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Speaker 8: You know, Maryland's pumping those guys out, so you know

972
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Speaker 8: you're trying to build depth on that side.

973
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Speaker 6: Of the ball.

974
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Speaker 8: You can do a lot worse than Jakorian Bennett at

975
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 8: that point in the draft.

976
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Speaker 4: Talking about the great Dane Brugler, the draft guru from

977
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Speaker 4: the Athletic and of course the Beast is available. I'm

978
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Speaker 4: scrolling through it right now as we're talking to him.

979
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Speaker 4: You just put out a seven round mock as well,

980
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 4: fourth round pick. We haven't talked about it yet, but

981
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: you have a quarterback for the Browns and makes itse

982
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: with this roster that they would like to find a

983
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: backup quarterback, a long term backup to Deshaun Watson on

984
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 4: a rookie contract. I mean, I think that that's someplace

985
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Speaker 4: that you're going to be looking to save some costs there.

986
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: Talk to me about some of the quarterback options there.

987
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 4: You picked Hayner out of Fresno State, from Danville, near

988
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: my hometown, a little undersized but very productive guy at

989
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: Fresno State. And then I've also the name that's been

990
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: the Browns I guess have had for a visit. According

991
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: to reports, Clayton Tune out of Houston but just talk

992
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 4: to me about some of these quarterbacks in here and

993
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 4: who you think kind of makes sense for the Browns

994
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 4: in this scheme.

995
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is a I think a pretty good group

996
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 8: of quarterbacks on Day three, Guys that you can expect

997
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 8: to come in and really compete for that backup job.

998
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 8: And you know, I think something that fans don't realize,

999
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 8: you know most fans is that that quarterback two position,

1000
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 8: how important that is. If you're just going to rank

1001
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 8: the positions on a roster, quarterback two probably gets ahead

1002
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 8: of some of the star ar positions. It's so critical

1003
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 8: to have that guy. If your starter goes down, you're

1004
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 8: not going to miss a beat. Guy's going to be

1005
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 8: able to come in and.

1006
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 6: At least keep you in games, you know, give you

1007
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 6: a chance to win.

1008
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 8: And it's not just that, but also between games, during practice,

1009
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 8: during meetings, having a guy in that room that's helping

1010
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 8: your starter, that's helping prepare the game plan, getting ready

1011
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 8: for opponents. And to me, Jake Ayner is the exact

1012
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 8: guy that I would be targeting to fill that role.

1013
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 6: Like you mentioned's a.

1014
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 8: Little undersize, he's five eleven and a half two hundred

1015
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 8: and ten pounds, in.

1016
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 6: A lot of ways, He's almost the West Coast.

1017
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 8: Version of Bryce Young because he is undersized, but tough

1018
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 8: as nails. The intangibles that he brings off the charts,

1019
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 8: really really smart guy, the way he processes, the way

1020
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 8: he reads the field, and he just he makes plays happen.

1021
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 8: Keep going back to that UCLA game, not this past year,

1022
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 8: the year before where he put that President offense on

1023
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 8: his back and you know, led them to come from

1024
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Speaker 8: behind win and overtime against the Bruins.

1025
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 6: I mean, just a heroic performance from him. And Hayter's

1026
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 6: used to doing that. That that's what he That's what

1027
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 6: he's always been doing.

1028
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 8: And so if I'm in the fourth round and backup

1029
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 8: quarterback is important to me, Hayter would definitely be one

1030
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 8: of my one of my targets.

1031
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: There him.

1032
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 8: Aidan O'Connell from Purdue also in that mix, a guy

1033
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 8: that you think could be a quality backup spot starter.

1034
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 8: And I like Clayton Tune as well out of Houston

1035
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 8: six two and a half, two hundred and twenty pounds,

1036
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 8: a guy that was really accurate. And what you love

1037
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 8: about Tune is Layton games. You know, think about the

1038
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 8: opener this year against UTSA where you know, it doesn't

1039
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 8: matter scoreboard says how much times left.

1040
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 6: On the clock. He plays with ice water.

1041
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 8: I mean he's going out there and making plays with

1042
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 8: his legs when he has to making plays with his arms.

1043
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 8: So good size athlete with enough functional ability that he

1044
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 8: can be a backup and then if he needs to

1045
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 8: see the field, he can do that as well. And

1046
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 8: so both this is a pretty decent year if you're

1047
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 8: looking for that backup quarterback somewhere in those middle rounds.

1048
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Speaker 3: Dane, you're the best, buddy. Thank you so much for

1049
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: your time.

1050
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Speaker 6: Not happy to do it.

1051
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: Appreciate it, guys, all right, the great Dane Briggler. And

1052
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: it's just it's amazing. And he's talking about Off the Shark,

1053
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: a quarterback from Fresno State who's a has come on

1054
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 3: to the fourth round, who's talking about his UCLA game

1055
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: from two years ago.

1056
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Speaker 4: And also you could find out from his from his

1057
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: notes that he puts together everybody's also a scratch golfer,

1058
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 4: so he'd instantly be the best golfer on the team.

1059
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: It's infinite, you versus him.

1060
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: Bring it on, hater, let's do Danville. That's an era

1061
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 4: that's a very Danville's a very nice part of the

1062
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 4: Bay Area.

1063
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Speaker 3: Oh there you go. Why institutional knowledge? Oh yeah, very good.

1064
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine.

1065
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Speaker 3: You can log onto the Athletic dot com today to

1066
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Speaker 3: get your copy of the Beast. And of course he

1067
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Speaker 3: did a full seven round mock, which is such a

1068
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Speaker 3: crazy and impossible task to take on, but Dane did

1069
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Speaker 3: it because of course he did go around the league.

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Speaker 3: go around the league, Ian Rapaport reporting that the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers have require receive inquiries from several teams looking

1083
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Speaker 3: at a potential trade for quarterback. Trade Lance reiterates that

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1085
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Speaker 3: why I'm always interested in these reports? Why is this public?

1086
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: You're on? Why is this public? How does this get

1087
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: to rap report? How does it get out? Who in

1088
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers organization would put this out?

1089
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: That's right, that's the answer. The forty nine ers, the

1090
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: way that it is worded. Yeah, we're not making calls,

1091
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: we're fielding them. So if you're interested in Trey Lance,

1092
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 4: you better get on it because people are already calling

1093
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: not us nothing. This is totally from the forty nine er.

1094
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 3: So do you think they're ready to punt on Lance?

1095
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: It feels like they want I don't know any other read.

1096
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 4: Yes, the read is they want a punt and they

1097
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 4: want to get something good for them because they got

1098
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 4: brought party and they're gonna roll with Purty and figure

1099
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 4: something else out.

1100
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: We have Donald.

1101
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think in three days they can

1102
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, Sam, Donald's fun.

1103
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: But I just think that party's coming off a big injury. Yeah,

1104
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 3: didn't they give? I mean, that's like a border If

1105
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: they weren't so damn competent at winning football games, it's

1106
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: a borderline fireable offense. The Lance miss. Okay, it's like

1107
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: three ones, isn't it?

1108
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: All right? So Trey Lance trade and.

1109
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: They didn't even have to do any of it. They

1110
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 3: could have stayed. We could have taken mac Jones if

1111
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: they didn't like Fields.

1112
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 4: Let's see twenty that was what twenty twenty one?

1113
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so maybe I had that hot seat wrong

1114
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 5: all these years. Maybe it should have been their GM Lynch.

1115
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, they gave up three first round picks. I want

1116
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: to get find that training perk picks. Okay, here we go,

1117
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: here it is, you're like this, all right? So they

1118
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: gave up twelfth overall, which could they not have Where

1119
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 4: did the Fields get drafted?

1120
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: Pull up, I'm pulling it up right now. I want

1121
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: to say he was around there that pick.

1122
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: After they dealt the pick to Miami, which was so

1123
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 4: they could have been at sixth overall. They were at sixth.

1124
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: Overall, so they they went up to six.

1125
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: They were at six and went to three, so.

1126
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: They traded from the with the Chargers. The Chargers picked

1127
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 3: Herbert at six.

1128
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: So the forty nine twenty twenty twenty one choice trained.

1129
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one draft. Yeah, twenty twenty my fault my fault. No,

1130
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 3: you're good, all right, Hold on hold, please hold please alright.

1131
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, so listen to this. This is gonna make

1132
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 4: you go crazy.

1133
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 3: I got it here.

1134
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 4: So if they stayed at they had that year, they

1135
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 4: had six, and they also had uh twenty nine overall,

1136
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 4: which was their real pick. They had six from some

1137
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: other trade, so they had six and twenty nine. They

1138
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: trade six and twenty nine and then the one the

1139
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 4: next year for Lance. If they just stayed at six,

1140
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: they could have taken Fields, right, yeah, okay, just.

1141
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 3: For perspective, Jayalen Waddle went six.

1142
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: Right, Parsons went twelve, which is where their pick got traded.

1143
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: The Cowboys fields went eleven, so.

1144
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 4: They could have taken Fields at six. Done nothing.

1145
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: Pick number kept twenty nine, which was the pick that

1146
00:52:54,480 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: was used to trade for Tyreek Hill. M hmm, that's right,

1147
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 3: that to me, and then the twenty and then it's

1148
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: this year's first round pick twenty twenty three, so they

1149
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 3: traded two and twenty twenty one and then one in

1150
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, so they could have had oh that's right.

1151
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: Sorry. The other pick was traded by the Dolphins to

1152
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 4: the Broncos for Bradley Chubb, so they could have had Fields,

1153
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 4: Bradley Chubb and Tyreek Hill for Trey Lance.

1154
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: Gosh, I mean it's fireable. Well not when you keep winning,

1155
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: you keep winning the NFC Championship game. No, I understand,

1156
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 3: but it's just it's just a stunning level of malfeasance

1157
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: of you. Blew it boy.

1158
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 4: You forget the Chub part of it. You could have

1159
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 4: just had your pick this year and then you could

1160
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: have had Tyreek Hill and Fields, so you'd have Debo,

1161
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill, Ayuk Kittle with Garoppolo and Fields.

1162
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that feels like that'd be okay. I mean he

1163
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: saw something, they saw something in Lance. He loved Lance,

1164
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 3: and obviously they clearly but like they don't now like

1165
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 3: to the point where that they don't want to.

1166
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: Well the potential and then potential becomes reality, and reality

1167
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: sometimes is not what you were hoping for.

1168
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild, absolutely wild. A deal we talked about yesterday,

1169
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 3: Allen Robinson to the Steelers. Steelers get Robinson and a

1170
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 3: seventh round of Rams get a seventh The Rams pay

1171
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: ten million of Robinson's salary. Pittsburgh pays the rest of

1172
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 3: the five million. Speaking of the Rams to look at

1173
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 3: their roster from schefter Rams, the only quarterback under contract.

1174
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: A Stafford team currently does not have a kicker, punter,

1175
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: long snapper in the Do you is there still a

1176
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: chance they move Stafford? Why would you not move it?

1177
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 4: Why not? I don't know why you wouldn't.

1178
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: Why would he want to play on this team.

1179
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 4: I think you have to move him?

1180
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think about Atlanta. He played collegiately

1181
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: at Georgia. You know, is that a spot? What about Houston?

1182
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 3: If Houston's trying to fast track.

1183
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 4: Because they get it, the visions there, I mean, the

1184
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 4: division's there for them.

1185
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: He's a Dallas He's a Dallas kid. But like I mean,

1186
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 3: I'm sure Jara would do it if he could find

1187
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: a way to get a hold of Stafford. I know

1188
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 3: he coveted him when he was with the Lions. But like,

1189
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: if you're the Rams, I see absolutely no point in

1190
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 3: hanging on to Matthew Stafford.

1191
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 4: Me neither, because it makes no sense.

1192
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: Why would you have him play on a team that's

1193
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 3: doing that's going nowhere?

1194
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: Agreed? I absolute fair question. By the way, let me

1195
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 4: say this to you. Have you heard this? This is

1196
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 4: dove climbing?

1197
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,479
Speaker 3: Oh that guy or is it a bot?

1198
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 4: Do we ever forget he's a real person. Yeah, he

1199
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 4: lives in Israel and need aggregates and that's what he does.

1200
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: That's the whole operation. He makes it. He makes it

1201
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 3: financially because the amount of followers he has on Twitter.

1202
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 4: I guess is that he's doing fine. He's doing fine,

1203
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 4: but he was again this was his reports are basically

1204
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 4: other people's reports are something that he saw.

1205
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: So he must just comb constantly because he's usually among

1206
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: the first with stuff.

1207
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: Brady Quinn is doing an interview with two people. I'm

1208
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 4: not sure who, but according to Brady Quinn in this interview,

1209
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 4: which he has the clip where you can the audio

1210
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 4: of what I'm saying now, he said c J. Stroud

1211
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 4: made a commitment to the Manning Passing Academy Academy, but

1212
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 4: the night before he ghosted them and didn't show up.

1213
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 4: When you do that, that's going to set up alarms

1214
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: for people. That's a quote. He noted that as one

1215
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 4: of the three concerns with CJ. Stroud and said maybe

1216
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 4: it's a smoke screen, but he's he said that that's

1217
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 4: what he's hearing right now is that he made it.

1218
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 3: Brady Quinn saying.

1219
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 4: This, Brady quincaid.

1220
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 7: C J.

1221
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 4: Stroud made a commitment to the Man Passing Academy, but

1222
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 4: the night before he ghosted them and didn't show up.

1223
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 4: I just gotch you some stuff for tomorrow.

1224
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just going to see if that's true. There

1225
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: you go, I'll get you an answer on that.

1226
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 4: So anyway, that's just that's interesting. It is an interesting

1227
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 4: thing and one of those interesting things that just shows

1228
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 4: up out of nowhere right before the draft. And by

1229
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: the way, I mean, I guess I could see why

1230
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: that's relevant, but I also struggled to see why that's

1231
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: relevant to whether or not he's going to be your

1232
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: franchise quarterback as well.

1233
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I do, because what

1234
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: are the circumstances behind.

1235
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 4: That, and who knows if it's even true?

1236
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows if it's true? All right, I'm working

1237
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: on that. I'll see if there's any validity to that.

1238
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: Speaking to CJ. Stroud meeting with the Falcons who don't

1239
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 3: pick until eight Anthony Richardson meeting with the Ravens, Richardson

1240
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: feels like a guy where it's got to be a

1241
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: spot where they've got that's that nurture thing, right, There's

1242
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: got to be a spot where you can be patient,

1243
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: give it some time and see what kind of happens there.

1244
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why I think that he He's a

1245
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 4: guy that makes a lot of sense to me to go.

1246
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 4: If Detroit were gonna swing, I think they're gonna take

1247
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: a corner there. It makes sense. But you know, Seattle,

1248
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 4: Seattle would be a great spot. Detroit would be a

1249
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 4: great spot. I think Indianapolis feels a little risky, but.

1250
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: There would just be so much pressure to play him

1251
00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: right away.

1252
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 4: Yeah there, Yeah.

1253
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: Instead of letting him hang a little bit. We'll continue

1254
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: our tour around the NFL. We will head to Nashville

1255
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 3: to take a visit with the Titans. Bottom of the

1256
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: ARWA Teresa Walker will join us on the Titans and

1257
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: their off season that is coming up next us to

1258
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 3: clear the Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1259
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet, Coming

1260
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1261
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: All Right, welcome back in to Cleveland. Browns Daily brought

1262
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: to you by Bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio On

1263
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. Teresa Walker going to join us

1264
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 3: at the bottom of this hour on the Tennessee Titans

1265
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 3: and where that organization is heading. Before we do that, though,

1266
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 3: let's take a look at the Tennessee Titans through the

1267
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: fun of the categories. Let's start with their uniforms. Keep

1268
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 3: change of change what variation they changed a couple years

1269
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: ago to a blue helmet from the white helmet that

1270
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: they had for a long time.

1271
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 4: Bottom line, since they owned the Houston Oilers uniforms, one

1272
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 4: give them back to Houston. That's the right thing. Yeah,

1273
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 4: that's the right thing to do. If you're not wear them.

1274
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, just wear those and just put the tea on

1275
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: the helmetstead of the oil if you want, and.

1276
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 4: Just wear those. Because did they wear them, Chris Johnson,

1277
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 4: I remember wore them?

1278
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: They well, they didn't them. They wore them as their

1279
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: primary when Eddie George was there at the beginning when

1280
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: they were in Memphis. Remember they played at the Liberty

1281
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: Bowl in the beginning because there was not a football stadium.

1282
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 3: They were not in Nashville at the beginning. The first

1283
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: year or two they played in Memphis at the Liberty Bulks.

1284
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: It was the only NFL stadium in Tennessee.

1285
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, they wore these unis and then for a while

1286
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: they wore the blue oiler.

1287
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: Right, which are gorgeous too. That's all gorgeous, But for

1288
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 3: whatever reason they liked the Navy. They have a little

1289
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 3: bit of the blues still in it. I've always thought

1290
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: their uniforms were largely trash. I just thought I think

1291
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 3: they're a mismatch, a bunch of nons since like nineties,

1292
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: they always feel dated. Even when they redid the new ones,

1293
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 3: they felt like so locked in in a mid to

1294
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 3: the late nineties world to odd piping and just weird.

1295
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 3: I just they've never been good. I don't even know

1296
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 3: what one I would call my favorite. I guess when

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Speaker 3: they were like when Eddie was there, it seemed like

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Speaker 3: they had a white one with a blue pant that

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Speaker 3: was pretty good with a white hat. But I don't

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Speaker 3: know what they wear now that I would consider great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah they had at the beginning, but those had the

1302
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 4: weird weirders, were different colors than the body of the jersey,

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Speaker 4: even like the Air McNair Eddie George Onan's you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's none of them are good.

1305
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 4: No, they really have not had any good ones. And

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Speaker 4: then you go and look at the nineteen ninety seven

1307
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight Tennessee Oilers and they're great. Just put

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01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 4: that once they went to the Titans. Remember the whole

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01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 4: top and sleeves, the shoulders and sleeves all the way

1310
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 4: down were baby blue. The chest was either white or navy,

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01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 4: and than the pants were opposite that. Those are just

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Speaker 4: not good uniforms. No, they've and they've never been good.

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01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 4: In two thousand and nine, that must have been when

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Speaker 4: Chris Johnson, when they threw they also wore the throwbacks,

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Speaker 4: but instead of wearing the white oilers helmets, they wore

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Speaker 4: a blue oiler's helmet.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand it.

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Speaker 4: Thousand, two thousand and nine. And that's that's a good look.

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01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 4: That's not a bad.

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Speaker 3: One here, But that's a that's a Houston uniform, right, right,

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01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 3: So just put the tea there instead of that, right,

1322
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: And for some reason they've got like is it wings

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: on the tee?

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01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 4: They're obsessed with that tea.

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01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, which looks like attack. It's just

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01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 3: a weird I don't understand it. I don't have no

1327
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: idea what I think they have.

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Speaker 4: Some of the worst uniforms in.

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Speaker 3: The end, I agree, And they have good colors, like

1330
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 3: just have a cohesive design that makes a little bit

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Speaker 3: of sense. Yep, and they just they never have I

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Speaker 3: don't I don't know. It's the damnest thing we handled.

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Speaker 3: Are they? What would I do to fix them? We

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01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: told you just did just wear one of the oilers types.

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01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: Just put the tea on it if you want, and

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01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 3: put The right thing to do would be to give

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01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 3: the oilers back their uniforms.

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Speaker 4: That's the way to do that.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Stadium, same place from the beginning, right, it's still a

1341
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 3: DELFI it's right there, but they're getting a new one

1342
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 3: and they're gonna do the savvy thing and they're gonna

1343
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 3: put the dome on it so they can host everything

1344
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 3: in the world. Yep. They're gonna have the rollout carpet

1345
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 3: with all of that roll out grass. They're gonna do

1346
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 3: that whole operation. So their prototype is pretty cool. What

1347
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: they're going to do there. I think it would be great. Yeah,

1348
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: that great and fine. It's right near down, it's right

1349
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: right near downtown.

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Speaker 5: I like it. It's it's a nice stadium. The fans

1351
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 5: are on top on top of you like, it's a

1352
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 5: good view from the booth. Uh, it's a great stadium.

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Speaker 5: The biggest thing is you got to pace yourself if

1354
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 5: you're there, you got to remind yourself, maybe multiple times,

1355
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 5: that it is a business trip.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you take it.

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01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 5: The night can get away from you pretty quickly.

1358
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: Which leads us to road trip absolutely absolutely direct flights,

1359
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 3: You could drive it if you wanted to all sorts

1360
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 3: of food, restaurants, hotels. It's getting bigger and bigger. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think there's a four Seasons and a Saint Regis

1362
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,439
Speaker 3: in Nashville now, Like it's taken a whole other level

1363
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 3: if you're into that. But yeah, it checks every box.

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01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: It's probably is it the biggest boomtown city in this

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01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 3: country in the last decade.

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Speaker 4: That or Austin.

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01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the two that have exploded. Yeah, it's

1368
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: but even even when I was in the like twenty

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01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 3: years ago, when I was in the South, everybody in

1370
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: the South moved to Atlanta at that point. Now I

1371
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 3: feel like everybody's gone to Nashville. Yeah, that's what it

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01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 3: seems like. It's pretty wild because Nashville it's in the hills,

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Speaker 3: so it's hard to.

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Speaker 5: You just kind if you're driving, you literally just weave

1375
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 5: and come over a hill and you're like, oh.

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01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 3: Here we go. Here's a town. Yeah, must do thing

1377
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: on a road trip. Live music anywhere. Husk is there

1378
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 3: fantastic restaurant, but I would think of any line music

1379
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 3: with yeah.

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Speaker 4: Just got on the Broadway Street. You gotta do Yeah.

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01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 5: I mean the last two times we played there, the

1382
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 5: buck guys were playing on Saturday night, we fought a

1383
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 5: Buckeye Backer.

1384
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: It yet sideways.

1385
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 5: Maybe one of the few times that I was like,

1386
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 5: is the crew gonna be able to get up in

1387
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 5: the morning. We're gonna be able to do this. We're

1388
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 5: gonna be able to because that's the problem. It's that

1389
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 5: stupid one hour time difference.

1390
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Speaker 3: So that's the worse. The worst Yeah player on their

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01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 3: current roster you would want here.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking Kevin bah the two time first team All

1393
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 4: Pro free safety amongst the league leaders and interceptions every year.

1394
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 4: There really isn't a weapon that you would say, you know,

1395
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 4: Traylon Burks is interesting but certainly far from proven, and

1396
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 4: that somebody that you would be jumping in over what

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01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 4: you currently have. The other guy, Uh, I got another

1398
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 4: one for you. Jeffrey Simmons jeff Simmons seven and a

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01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 4: half sacks defensive tackle, Like we can I think our

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01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: safeties are pretty good. Yeah, but this is our fantasy world.

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01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 4: We can take any I'm just saying, like, you just

1402
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 4: got you just got an extend. Simmons got an extension. Yeah,

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01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 4: two time Pro bowler. He was a guy I remember

1404
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 4: doing that draft toward like somebody's gonna take him and

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01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 4: he's gonna be an absolute monster. And he's got sixteen

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01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 4: sacks the last two seasons.

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Speaker 3: That might give you put him on at defensive tackle

1408
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 3: at the other defensive tackle, that's terrible.

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01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 4: Second team All Pro I think are back in the

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01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: I would rather have him promise.

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with it. Playoff team. I mean

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01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 3: they could be. It's the AFC South. No, it's the

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Speaker 3: only thing.

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Speaker 5: Is anything possible.

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01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 3: They'll play hard for him, I agree. I mean they've

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01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 3: passed their window obviously, but I could see it's not

1417
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 3: beyond Jacksonville stumbling. I don't think Jacksonville stumble proof yet.

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01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 3: Crow Crown the crown them. Yeah. Biggest off season addition

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01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 3: or loss, I can't think of anything.

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Speaker 5: Well, if Hannahill was still under contract, there.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, they're kind of stuck in the

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Speaker 3: middle man that if.

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Speaker 4: If they trade Derrick Henry, which is rumored, that will

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Speaker 4: be their biggest change.

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Speaker 3: Where's the landing is it Buffalo?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Supposedly he and Dalvin Cook are on

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01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 4: the move, and I read that right now the Bengals

1428
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 4: are trying to mouson. They haven't released.

1429
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: Mixing as they're trying to get him take a pay cut. Okay,

1430
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 3: where's the landing spot for Henry?

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Speaker 2: That makes sense?

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01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 4: Let's see. It doesn't look like they've made really any

1434
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 4: major moves. The Titans, I'm looking right now.

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01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: I mean, their biggest thing that they did this offseason

1436
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,919
Speaker 3: is they fired the general manager and Mike Rabel's running

1437
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 3: the ship. Yeah, that's the big question that he's the boss.

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01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 5: Are they one of those teams that Draft Night makes

1439
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 5: a move.

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Speaker 3: I think that. I mean, they seem to love Rabel

1441
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: down there, and it feels like that they could go

1442
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: to the bottom if they wanted to. They could. Yeah,

1443
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 3: they could be real bad, Yeah, because Malik Willis is there.

1444
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 3: But you know, that was pretty brutal.

1445
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 4: It's fun in when we're doing these things, the ability

1446
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 4: to see which teams actually have a coverage. Like some teams,

1447
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 4: you could click and say Seattle Seahawks offseason moves, and

1448
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 4: you get a list of absolutely everybody that was on

1449
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 4: their team that signed somewhere else, people who are on

1450
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 4: their team that are free agents and are unsigned, who

1451
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 4: they re signed, who brought in, who they traded, all

1452
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: of it. And then a lot of teams have absolutely

1453
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 4: nothing like the Titans. I have not been able to

1454
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: find really anything, so I'm looking through. This is a

1455
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 4: Sporting News grade for them, and they were I think

1456
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 4: just not very active so far because they are twenty

1457
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 4: six key additions left tackle Andre Dillard, Edge Arden Key,

1458
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 4: linebacker Zis Alshahir who was with the nine Ers, cornerback

1459
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 4: Sean Murphy, Bunting, they lost Taylor Lewan, center Ben Jones,

1460
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 4: Robert Woods, Bud Dupree, their kicker Randy Bullock. They're very

1461
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 4: their guard Nate Davis, defensive tackle to Marcus Walker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know why Tannehill is still there.

1463
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Speaker 3: I don't know why Henry's still there.

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01:07:59,040 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, last Teresa Walker about this, she will know why

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Speaker 3: all of that is still the case. She'll join us

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Speaker 3: coming up next you listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought

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Speaker 3: of your Cleveland Browns. Our off season tour continues with

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01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 3: a visit to Nashville. Talk a little bit of the

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Speaker 3: Titan Streets of Walker from the Associated Press. Joining us

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Speaker 3: Keep it Twisted Cleveland, Teresa, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: taking the time. Let's just start here with a simple

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01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 3: one that my alsta to complicated answer. What exactly are

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01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:03,879
Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans.

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01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 7: Well, that's the question we all kind of want to know.

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01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,839
Speaker 7: I mean, we have a GM, we have Mike Brabel,

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01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 7: and under Mike Brabel, since he was hired at coach,

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01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 7: they've essentially been competitive in the AC South. They were

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01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 7: three minutes away from a third straight division title, despite

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01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 7: you know, using the NFL's most players for a second

1489
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 7: straight season because of injuries, and so it's like, you know,

1490
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 7: that's the one thing we may not get access to

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01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 7: Ran Carthon or Mike Brabel till maybe Monday to talk

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01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 7: about the draft. But let's put it this way, I

1493
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 7: don't expect any hard answers because you know, let's they

1494
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 7: said a year ago the former GM kind of hinted

1495
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 7: that he, you know, didn't foresee a trade of a J.

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 7: Brown before Draft night. Well guess what, he wasn't traded

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01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,839
Speaker 7: until after the you know, after the draft had started

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01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 7: in the first round. Ran Carthon's the first time GM.

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01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 7: We don't know if he looking to the future or

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01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 7: the trying to rebuild a reload on the fly. We

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01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 7: don't are they going to look for a quarter I

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01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 7: mean it's easy to look at Ryan tanney Hill in

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01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 7: the final year of his deal and say, oh, they've

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 7: got to go get a quarterback. I mean, you know,

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01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 7: Ryan Tannehill's got a thirty six point six million dollar

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01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 7: cap hit this year. But then you look at the

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01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 7: other quarterbacks who are suddenly getting big money, and you're like, hmm.

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01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 7: So at this point, anyone who says they know what

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01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 7: the Titans are going to do with the eleventh pick overall,

1510
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:29,879
Speaker 7: they're guessing.

1511
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: When you look at this Titans team, one that had

1512
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 4: been a playoff team, one that had been built on

1513
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 4: strong defense, Tannehill making plays, Derrick Henry aj Brown. Now

1514
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 4: there are rumors that maybe Derek Henry is not going

1515
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 4: to be playing for the Titans this year. What is

1516
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 4: this team? And do you think this is a team

1517
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 4: that is going to It's hard to imagine it not

1518
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 4: being true with Mike Frabel, but is this a team

1519
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 4: that is seriously trying to compete in twenty twenty three?

1520
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 7: Well, the one thing we have, that's the thing, you know,

1521
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 7: given Mike Brabel's history the head, you know, I tended

1522
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 7: lean yes, because guess what in the AFC South, uh,

1523
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 7: you know, Jaguars won that title last year, but they

1524
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 7: had to go on a heck of a run and

1525
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 7: is as tremendous as Trevor Lawrence looked down the stretch

1526
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 7: and Doug Peterson talk about writing a ship that I

1527
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 7: mean it was like a Poseidon adventure kids looked up

1528
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 7: that reference. I mean, I mean that boat was not

1529
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 7: only upside down, it was thinking to the bottom of

1530
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 7: the floor. And he got them to the AFC South title.

1531
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 7: So things are looking up there. But now the other

1532
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 7: two AFC South teams, Texans and the Colts, they've got

1533
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 7: to find a quarterback. You know, they've got first you know,

1534
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 7: first year coaches. Uh so you know, Mike Brabel. If

1535
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 7: they can make the right moves with the new GM

1536
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 7: ran Carthon, you know, you could think about maybe reloading

1537
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 7: a bit.

1538
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 6: Uh.

1539
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 7: They did just re ink Jeffrey Simmons to an extension

1540
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 7: four years. Uh, so they've got him now under contract

1541
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 7: for a bit. He's happy and content and you've got

1542
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 7: a lot of pieces on your defense back. A big

1543
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 7: reason I think that people are looking at Derrick Henry,

1544
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 7: Ryan Tanneyhill. They're in the final years of their deal.

1545
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 7: Derrick Henry will be thirty in January. And you know,

1546
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 7: traditional NFL logic says when a running back hits thirty,

1547
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 7: he collapses. Well, I'm gonna say this two things Derrick

1548
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 7: Henry did not. He was not the primary ball carrier,

1549
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 7: the insidant he arrived on campus at Alabama, he sat

1550
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 7: behind DeMarco Murray when he arrived at the Titans with

1551
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 7: their third pick in the second round in twenty sixteen

1552
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,839
Speaker 7: and didn't become the starter until late that second season.

1553
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 7: So to me, there's a lot more cred on the tires.

1554
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 7: And when you look at he was second in the

1555
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 7: league in rushing this last season behind well, calling the

1556
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 7: Titans offensive line patchwork would be doing. You know, calling

1557
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 7: it patchwork is being kind. So he made a lot

1558
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 7: of something out of nothing. And you know, so you know,

1559
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 7: to me, the Titans biggest priorities this offseason in his draft,

1560
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 7: and they've addressed some of that in free agency, Andre Dillard,

1561
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 7: Daniel brunskill for the offense of line. But you know,

1562
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 7: if you can get some more help to help improve

1563
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 7: that offensive line, and they're going to have a new

1564
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 7: position coach there gets more help at the skill position. Receivers,

1565
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 7: they cut Robert Woods even though he led the team

1566
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 7: and catches and receptions last year. Let's just put it

1567
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,520
Speaker 7: this way. It is a very quiet kind of performance

1568
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 7: by Robert Woods. They've got trailing Burke, so they've got

1569
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 7: with the pick that they traded for, you know, got

1570
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 7: from Philadelphia for a J. Brown. But the challenge is this,

1571
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 7: you know it doesn't matter who the quarterback is and

1572
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 7: who is it running back unless they fix those two positions.

1573
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 7: So you know, that's why I'm thinking one. You know,

1574
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 7: maybe maybe they get through the draft, maybe they extend

1575
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 7: them for a year or so, you know, stretch out

1576
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 7: the cap a little bit, give them a little space.

1577
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 7: They're projected to have tons of room next year, so

1578
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 7: that kind of a deal would be doable. And maybe

1579
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 7: they just end up buying themselves in times and try

1580
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 7: to reload on the fly, kind of do a NASCAR

1581
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 7: pit stop, so to speak.

1582
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 3: You know, Teresa, the thing that is so interesting over

1583
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 3: the last five to ten years in the league is

1584
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 3: that the middle class has shrunk, right. It feels like

1585
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 3: NFL teams are viewing it more like, all right, can

1586
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 3: we go win the Super Bowl? And if we can't,

1587
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 3: then you try to go to the bottom and try

1588
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 3: to hit the lottery like the Bengals did with Joe

1589
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 3: Burrow and get a guy that way and instantly become

1590
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 3: a contender again with a couple of couple of great drafts.

1591
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 3: The Titans, to me from thirty thousand feet, feel like

1592
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 3: a middle class team in the sense that Ice cannot

1593
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: see a scenario how they get out of this AFC

1594
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 3: and win the Super Bowl. And in fact, it feels

1595
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 3: like they're heading in a way further away from that

1596
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 3: than they were two or three years ago. Conversely, they're

1597
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 3: almost too good is currently constructed. They definitely are too

1598
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 3: good is currently constructed to go to the bottom. So,

1599
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 3: like I guess, knowing Mike from his time at Ohio State,

1600
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 3: like I don't know if he could, if he would

1601
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 3: even sign up for that. And yet maybe to me,

1602
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 3: you talked about the cap space in a couple of years,

1603
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 3: maybe that seems like the most logical thing to get

1604
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 3: something for Derrick Henry now while he still has value.

1605
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 7: Well, but that's the thing, guys, I mean, when we're

1606
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 7: talking value number two running rusher in the NFL, as

1607
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 7: opposed to what are you gonna get it, You're not

1608
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 7: going to get anything anything higher than the fourth round pick. Now,

1609
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 7: grant granted, they don't have a fourth round pick this year.

1610
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 7: They only have six picks. So that's why i'd love

1611
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 7: to see them trade back, if at all possible, in

1612
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 7: that first round out of eleven to get more picks. So,

1613
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 7: you know, and they did draft a young man out

1614
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 7: of Michigan last year, But then you're gambling that he

1615
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 7: can step in and fill that spot. I will point

1616
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 7: out that in you know, when Derrick Henry missed nine

1617
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 7: games broken foot Payton's went twelve and five with Ryan

1618
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 7: tanning Hills still at quarterback and the AFC's number one

1619
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 7: seed until the injuries just absolutely caught up to them,

1620
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 7: and oh yeah, three interceptions in the lost of Cincinnati

1621
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:49,959
Speaker 7: the eventual AFC camps. Last year, Ryan Tannehill had injuries,

1622
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 7: missed five games because of an ankle, and he and

1623
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 7: you know, and Derrick Henry was available for all but

1624
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 7: one game and again second in the NFL and rushing

1625
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 7: Guess what happened. The Titans lost their last seven games

1626
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 7: and tentioned out of the playoffs, snapping a with it

1627
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 7: three or four year straight streak. So you can make

1628
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 7: the argument that maybe it is time to go ahead

1629
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 7: and unload Derrick Henry and try to get a draft kick.

1630
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 7: You know, but you've got some proven productions, a guy

1631
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 7: who's been a key leader for your team, and if

1632
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 7: you've seen his workout videos, you know that there's probably

1633
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 7: no one in the league that works harder than Derrick

1634
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 7: Henry as opposed to you know, taking a chance, adding

1635
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 7: a pick and gambling on what you might could get

1636
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 7: with the new regime. And when I point out new regime,

1637
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 7: there's been a couple of people added to the front office.

1638
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 7: It's not like, you know, ran Carthon has had a

1639
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 7: chance to come in. And he talked last week at

1640
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 7: Jeffrey Simmons intern you know, and talked about his new

1641
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 7: deal that he's been getting up to speed with the

1642
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 7: people here in Tennessee. So that's the challenge. You know,

1643
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 7: do they suddenly, you know, yank the wheel and go

1644
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 7: a different direction. That's you know, that's what we just

1645
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 7: don't know. Are they really you know, and do they

1646
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 7: want the picks? You know, does he trust who they

1647
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 7: might yet? That's going to be the challenge. And that's

1648
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 7: what we just don't know at this point. So and

1649
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 7: again I'll say this, I also cover the National Predators.

1650
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 7: David Boyle was probably the best in the NHL at

1651
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 7: holding his cards to the vest. Well, guess what, ran

1652
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 7: Carthon has no track record as a GM. And you know,

1653
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 7: if there's a tie breaker, you know, everyone's wondering, is

1654
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 7: it gonna be Mike, We're able to break that tie?

1655
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 7: That eye Adams Trunks the controlling owner. We're going to

1656
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 7: have to kind of stay tuned to see what happens here.

1657
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 7: And I wish I could be more concrete on this,

1658
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 7: but you know, yes, I mean right now, every scenario

1659
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 7: has been mentioned. In every scenario honestly, if possible. I mean,

1660
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 7: you know, Eddie George did not finish his career as

1661
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 7: a Tennessee Titan. Chris Johnson, one of the eight men

1662
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 7: to run for two thousand yards, did not finish his

1663
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 7: career as a Tennessee Titan. So I would not be

1664
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 7: stunned if they made a trade getting rid of Derrick

1665
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 7: Henry despite him being yet again one of eight two

1666
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 7: thousand yard rushers and oh yeah, the second leading rusher

1667
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 7: in the league last year.

1668
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 4: Maybe this is something that might have a more concrete answer.

1669
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 4: And if he is young in his career, certainly, but

1670
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 4: Malik Willis, is there any beliefs that he can become

1671
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 4: the quarterback of this team after what was a very

1672
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 4: again small sample size, but certainly not one that looked

1673
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 4: like he would be able to be a competent thrower

1674
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 4: of the football in the NFL.

1675
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 7: Well, I know that, Mike Rabel said earlier this season.

1676
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, he's working hard. He's working hard, and I

1677
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 7: did see, guys, I did see improvement from him from

1678
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 7: the time he arrived at a rookie mini camp to

1679
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 7: the start of the season. The problem is, and he

1680
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 7: did get win them a game in Houston where he

1681
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 7: was asked to throw the ball once in the entire

1682
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 7: second half and I literally were carried by Derrick Henry. Now,

1683
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 7: the challenge is going to be this, you know, you know,

1684
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 7: you take that biggest jump between your first and second year. Again,

1685
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 7: this is a guy who finished his career at Liberty,

1686
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 7: and you know, if you're pinning your hopes on him,

1687
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, right now there's two quarterbacks on

1688
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 7: the roster. It's Ryan tanney Hill and it's Malik Willis.

1689
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 7: And you know they had to go out and get

1690
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 7: Josh jobs and turn the offense over to him to

1691
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 7: try to get them into the playoffs rather than Malik Willis,

1692
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 7: who they had all year long. So you know, if

1693
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 7: they were to, you know, you know, bring somebody else

1694
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 7: in to try to beat him out for the job. Well,

1695
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 7: the one thing that Mike Rabel and Ran Carthon I

1696
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 7: both said competition makes everybody better, So I am expecting

1697
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 7: them to get a quarterback. Their only question is where

1698
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 7: and when.

1699
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 3: Teresa, great stuff. Thank you so much for your time.

1700
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 3: We really appreciate you giving us a little bit of

1701
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 3: it today.

1702
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 7: My pleasure. Thank you all so much.

1703
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 3: All Right, that's Teresa Walker the Associated Press on the

1704
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 3: Twisted Tea Hotline. Bright to by Twist t Heart i

1705
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 3: C official sponsor by Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland.

1706
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 3: It feels like she's plugged in as you're gonna get Yeah,

1707
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 3: and it's no clue. She's your own adventure time yep

1708
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 3: in Tennessee.

1709
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1710
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 3: To me, they are the quintessential road to nowhere. Listen,

1711
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 3: like to build more around Derek Henry. You've already done

1712
01:19:58,240 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 3: that as good as you can do it. When you

1713
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 3: had AJ you did it to the point of being

1714
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 3: a team that people thought were close. You were in

1715
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 3: the AFC with Mahomes and Allen and Burrow. I mean,

1716
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 3: you're just there's no there's no roadmap. Man.

1717
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 4: We had this after Week one of last year. They

1718
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 4: should have traded everybody that they could have accumulated as

1719
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 4: many picks, like obviously keep a Jeffrey Simmons keep buyerd,

1720
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 4: keep guys that are young and productive, but you need

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01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 4: to divest yourself of every asset that you can. And

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01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 4: the Henry Tannehill assets, like Tannahil is a guy that

1723
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 4: you throw them in an NFC team, send them both

1724
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 4: somewhere and they could contend they can be a playoff

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01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 4: team in the NFC. But yeah, just.

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01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 3: Crazy.

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01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 4: We said it last year. But they obviously and almost

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01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 4: made it in. You know, they lose, they would have

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01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 4: made it in. I think what if they had won

1730
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 4: their final game, they'd been eight to nine and somehow

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01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 4: won the division. So not that impressed with them. I

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01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 4: do think that that's a team that needs to completely rebuild,

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01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 4: and I think that division you're looking at it, Indy's

1734
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 4: kind of in a weird spot. Jacksonville is the most

1735
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 4: talented team, and I think Houston has a chance if

1736
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,839
Speaker 4: they get the quarterback right to get good quickly.

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01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 3: If you're Tennessee and you tank for one year and

1738
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 3: you got a new stadium coming, and you play in

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01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 3: a city that a lot of people want to live in,

1740
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 3: a lot of NFL guys live there in the off season, yeah, regardless,

1741
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 3: and you accumulate some assets, like you know, like when

1742
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: Teresa was like, well, yeah, that's a fourth round pick.

1743
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but you're not doing anything with Derek Henry anyway.

1744
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 3: So what's the point.

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01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 4: I'd give him a chance at this point in his

1746
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 4: career to play some meaningful football.

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01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 3: Hey, Gibbe, you're a duchie. You remember Brian Davis. Absolutely, So, Brian,

1748
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 3: have you seen this?

1749
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 4: I've seen this.

1750
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 3: So Brian Davis is allegedly I don't even know where

1751
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 3: this lab out. I think it's all nonsense. It feels

1752
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 3: almost a little bit like Mantiteo to me. So Brian

1753
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 3: Davis claims that he's putting together a seven billion dollar

1754
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 3: bid to usurp the Josh Harris bid for the Washington Commanders. Okay,

1755
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 3: so he was on radio in DC.

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01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 5: Reportedly is this where Commander's owner like passed him over

1757
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 5: and took less money.

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01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 3: Well, but I don't know that he has the money.

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01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if he has the money he claims

1760
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 3: he does. So you got your smart guy, you went

1761
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 3: to private school. I'm gonna read this to you. This

1762
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 3: was him on radio in Washington this morning. You tell

1763
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: me what this means. Because they did a Google search

1764
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 3: of his companies and nothing comes up. It all comes

1765
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 3: up empty. Here's what he says. They asked him, when

1766
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 3: we do a Google search of your companies, why do

1767
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 3: a bunch of shells but nothing? There's nothing on the web.

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01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 3: What I what I did was I learned from the

1769
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 3: Durham experience. I'm married for twenty three years, have three

1770
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 3: sons to at Duke right now, and I learned from

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 3: my past. I created special special purchase vehicles for each

1772
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 3: deal and made them new companies for this. For this

1773
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 3: cash advancement, I created Urban Echo Energy so it wouldn't

1774
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 3: have a history. I didn't want my investors exposed to

1775
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 3: anything that happened years ago. So I've created about nine

1776
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: different LLCs where you have one hundred percent controlling interest

1777
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 3: so I can keep it simple. But I don't have

1778
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 3: a website or market. I've been focused on getting the

1779
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: capital in and this is where I talked about intellectual properit.

1780
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 3: That's my capacity to build a business model where investors

1781
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 3: can legitimately see how they get return in their investment

1782
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 3: over the years. It hasn't happened yet because I'm trying

1783
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 3: to develop something that has transformative impact. You're smarter than me,

1784
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 3: you tell me what that is because that seems like

1785
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 3: word soup nonsense.

1786
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 4: Absolutely her transformative and I was like, ooh, transformative turkey.

1787
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 5: And he needed right, that's that's what I pulled on,

1788
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 5: and you need he.

1789
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,440
Speaker 4: Needs to have two point one billion himself.

1790
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 3: That's eight sentences of nothing correct.

1791
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 4: The big question than the one they should asked him

1792
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 4: is do you have two point one billion of liquids

1793
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 4: in yourself?

1794
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 3: So he says there's no end around for requirements. I

1795
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,520
Speaker 3: have one hundred percent. That means you can have other investors.

1796
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,759
Speaker 3: These guys with the Magic Johnson Group have twenty different investors,

1797
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 3: so they have to do twenty different background checks. I

1798
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 3: have one investor me. It's my money because I've sold

1799
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 3: my intellectual property. They are my partner because they don't

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01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 3: want me to have the issues these guys will have

1801
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 3: with twenty different owners. This is my redemption song. I'm

1802
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 3: hoops Bob Marley.

1803
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 4: He sounds delusional. He sounds delusional.

1804
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 5: I think you're better off going with a six and

1805
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 5: a half billion dollar offer.

1806
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 4: I think if his answer, I just don't understand the

1807
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 4: answers gave you any kind of confidence. That's one thing

1808
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 4: he said, Yeah, this company I mean answer linswered the question.

1809
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 4: My total assets are exactly because the answers are not.

1810
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 3: I don't think right, they're there. So here's the one win.

1811
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 3: Though he does say the name is something we would

1812
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 3: change and I'd love to bring the uniforms back to

1813
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 3: the old staple and change the name back to something

1814
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 3: more positive. On the field. I know we have great

1815
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 3: coaches in the regards to the team. So he gets

1816
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 3: that part right. But isn't that something I didn't put

1817
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 3: two and.

1818
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 5: Two together that that was the same Brian.

1819
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Florido hadn't ran an article on it and

1820
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 4: used a picture of him from Duke. It was like

1821
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 4: a duke.

1822
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 3: He was on for thirty minutes in DC. It's wild

1823
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 3: thirty minutes.

1824
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 5: Well, even if he doesn't have the cachet, he's at

1825
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 5: least getting exposure for his businesses. I don't know what

1826
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 5: those businesses.

1827
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 3: They're all shells, it's all LLCs, and according to him,

1828
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 3: there's you can't find anything in terms of what they are.

1829
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 4: He doesn't end up business. He says it's intellectual property.

1830
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,839
Speaker 3: It's intellectual property. So he's have seven He has access

1831
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 3: to seven billion dollars for the association to him.

1832
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 4: But he needs to have two point one himself to

1833
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 4: be there straight cash.

1834
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so much more to come. You listen to Cleveland

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01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:19,760
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Speaker 3: Nice shovel of the Calves last night, as predicted that

1840
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,799
Speaker 3: that would go that way. One more gott a you physical. Sorry.

1841
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,799
Speaker 3: The best part was that the there was a stretch

1842
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 3: I think it was in the second quarter as they

1843
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: stretched the lead out where Julius Randall was trying to

1844
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 3: bully Jared Allen and he missed a close shot in

1845
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 3: and he ended up actually getting hurt on the back

1846
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 3: of his wrist or back of his arm into his elbow.

1847
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 3: And then they go down to the other end and

1848
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 3: they run a high pick and roll and Alan sets

1849
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 3: a bone crushing screen on Jalen Brunson and the Cavs scored.

1850
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 3: At that point, I'm like, you're safe, You're safe.

1851
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 4: And Garland was dominant and he was good.

1852
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,799
Speaker 5: Why are the Knicks still keeping their starters in midway

1853
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 5: through the fourth quarter down twenty three.

1854
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 4: Alan Tibbs, what about Alan Tis?

1855
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 5: Does he didn't learn anything further down?

1856
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 3: That's what he does. That's it. I mean, that's Derrek Crows.

1857
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 3: Yeah right there, you're making a reference to you.

1858
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 4: He's on the bench.

1859
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just don't Yeah, get I'll be curious.

1860
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 3: Like the Lakers played Memphis tonight, they have one in

1861
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 3: the bag already, Like do they have the I think

1862
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 3: with Lebron they'll have the focus to go up two oh,

1863
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 3: especially if Jaw's not playing like that's what they got

1864
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 3: a strangle that you gotta strangle that stuff out. But

1865
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 3: that was a nice one for the Cabs last night.

1866
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great win.

1867
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 3: Really really blew that one.

1868
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 4: Make that screaming a back to New York.

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01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 3: There you go, Well, there you go. The next levels

1870
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Speaker 3: coming up next. We're back tomorrow. Thanks for listening, body Cleveland,

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