WEBVTT - Ep. 242: Steep Dark Timber 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is me eater podcast coming at you, shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:18.319 bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.560 can't predict anything presented by on X. Hunt creators are 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.160 the most comprehensive digital mapping system for hunters. Download the 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.440 Hunt app from the iTunes or Google play store. Nor 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:37.080 where you stand with on X. Okay, I'm gonna do 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.040 like a um host of a late night show. I'm 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.080 gonna say, ladies and gentlemen, we have a very special 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:51.920 show for you tonight, joined by Taylor McCall actual musician, actual, actual, 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:56.960 Reallysi Taylor McCall's stay you from from South Carolina. Yeah, 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:58.680 stay close to that, mighty, I'll get close to it. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.319 Tell people how you don't like to wear your own 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.120 hat just because you can't wear your own T shirt. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.200 You can't wear your own hat just I don't know, 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.080 you can't be called in t J Max well your 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.240 own hat on I don't just can't be a tool. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.280 So uh that puts me in an awkward spot. You 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.039 wear your mate eat or hat. Yeah, but you gotta 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:17.760 you gotta. I mean it's not my name. Ye. If 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.800 I had a name said Steve, I wouldn't wear a 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.880 shirt and said like Steve yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.040 know this, it was like a different Steve yeah yeah. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.080 What about a shirt that just said Dave, because that'd 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.360 be like people that wear garage shirts with someone else's 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.600 name on it. Ozzi used to do that heat being 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:38.160 like the tight spandex like outfit wild, you know, good 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.200 hanging out and it just say Ozzy and dazzles and 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.520 like nobody's got the balls to be wearing that these days, 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:46.319 you're talking the Blizzard of oz Yo. Yeah yeah, you fan, Yeah, 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.520 my dad, that's what I grew up on. A big 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:53.000 Randy Rhodes fans in the plane wreck. Yep, yep. That's 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.640 how the best own go. You know. Um, I used 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.320 to have a I used to work for a place 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:04.000 called Quality Ain't its contractors and they did uh industrial 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.920 codings and painting and all that. And one time me 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.960 and this dude from high school named Craig comp had 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.959 to go into a factory where they made auto parts. 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.440 They made like rear view years and stuff for Honda 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.080 or something like that. But it was in it was 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:21.480 in Michigan, and we had to clean the whole ceiling 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:26.200 like d grease from the car factory, in an auto 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:31.560 parts factory, D grease all of the steel girders and 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.240 trusses because they were gonna spray them. And they had 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.440 to put that fire retardant spray up there. What the 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.440 hell had to be prepped and we were and we 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.520 were doing one section and they wanted it done. We 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.240 had to do it just a one spell and I 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.440 and we came in. First shift was in that factory. 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:56.040 I mean Craig showed up. They left, Second shift came in, 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.480 they left, third shift came in, they left. The first 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.840 ship people came back, I mean Craig were still there. 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.160 And I entered like a transcendent transcendent state, what's the 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.520 word I'm trying to say, Like a hallucinatory state, that 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:16.280 flow state. And we're listening to k l q UM. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.360 I'll always remember this. We're up in a scissor lift. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.520 And I entered such a state that I at one 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.280 point said, I think they're gonna play crazy Train. Oh man, 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.000 that's what you needed. And they played crazy Train, did they? 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.119 That's usually the way it goes when I don't never 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.120 listen to the radio, but if I turn it on, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.120 it's usually got to be something where that it goes 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.080 right back off when you get that. That's one like 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.320 streaming services are nice and all that, but you can't 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.040 there's a thing about radio, like why do you song 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:48.080 like good songs sound better on radio because you don't 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.960 have the you don't have the acause surprise, I can't 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.920 skip it. And it's like all of a sudden, like 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.600 I could go right now and play Crazy Tramp. I 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.600 felt like, he can you play that? Knock? It's I 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.880 play that now? I mean that's what. Uh, that's kind 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:04.600 of that's a good talking point and maybe get out 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:08.360 on my My guitar work is uh, it's very uh, 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.240 very unorthodox, even in Nashville. I showed up and it 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.760 uh everybody in town really is kind of plays in 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.080 the same format. And the way I grew up learning guitars, 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:20.800 I never thought I could sing, just because I have 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.120 a real deep voice, and you know, a guitar and 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.240 a standard tune and set in which majority of the 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.719 songs are in um anything on the radio song it's 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.920 in standard tune and it's usually like a G and 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.520 a C and D. You know what I mean. That's 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.880 got no idea. Yeah, So I never grew up like that. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:37.479 Because I was like, man, I can't sing like that, 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.400 So I just d tune these strings all kinds of 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.400 weird ways and not really like that's not common. I 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.559 mean some tuning is uncommon, but what I was doing, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.279 you know, uh, people in town still I work with 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:50.839 some great people and be like, what do you even 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.440 play it? You know what I mean? Like I don't know, 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.880 you know, even in that's what in standards, Like, I 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:57.920 don't know what I'm doing even in standard tune. And 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.360 you take that into you know, d tuning the guitar. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:03.640 You know, it's uh, it's kind of one of those 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.400 things where it's like if you don't know anything, everything's 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:10.440 you know, that's your access. But you got to spend years. Fine, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.880 you know all that didn't sound good? What I got next? 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:14.400 You know what I mean, not to many people want 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.600 to do that. You know the Leonard SKINNERD quote from 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.880 one of the dudes, the Leonard SKINNERD was learned to 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.479 play your guitar, then get sexy. Yeah, yeah, you just 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.240 skipped right to the sexy. I don't know about all that, 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.680 but we were tried. We tried. Oh you know, who 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:34.520 can sing like a little Bird's Chester The molester. Oh yeah, 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.400 he's uh, he's I've seen him evolve over the past 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.719 few months, playing guitar and singing, and he's getting good. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.520 He he did this, Buddy Bars just got married. So 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.760 Chester Chester Chester Floyd. Yeah, I save him in my 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.240 phone it's Chester the Molester because my kids they don't 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.120 know what a molester is, but they laugh on my truck, 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.120 says Chester the Molester, and I tell to call them, 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:02.280 but uh, he got we're fishing your night, and he's 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.440 explaining this whole story where he learned how to play 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:08.159 a song, someone else's song, but Tyler Childer's song to 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.479 get up and like serenade his wife at his wedding 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.799 and at a couple of weeks it was a good performance. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.159 Well he ran. The problem is everybody thinks that he 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:19.600 wrote it. He didn't clarify or anywhere in listening, so 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.599 people are like he was talking about how people are 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.160 crying and like, I can't believe you wrote that beautiful 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.160 song for your wife, And now he's running around And 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.960 then even after the fact, my wife was talking to 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:37.800 someone who's talking about this beautiful song Jester wrote. So 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.560 he need to do a better job in the future. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.880 Uh so, uh, you moved out you lived here for 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:45.560 a while. Yeah, that's what he came out here to 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.480 be a fishing guy. Yeah, yeah, that's what I kind 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.799 of have two phases. I kind of was telling Buddy 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.000 last night, you know, around a couple of beers, just 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.080 I feel like I've had two phases in my life 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.960 of just uh, I'll fishing and guitar, you know, and 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.719 I feel like both are very had a tate of 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.279 activities or hobbies that I turned into disciplines in a 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.840 sense maybe I mean, I don't know if you call 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.039 it that, but uh, yeah, I grew up when my 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.040 dad just going camping and fishing, uh for stock trout 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.680 up in North Carolina, in the Davidson and Mills River. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.720 And I just grew up catching that stock trout like 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.880 if you catch it, you know, he was not born 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:22.440 in the river you put you probably put it in. 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.320 You know. We got help the DNR people, you know, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.400 dump buckets of just hogs and the and the river. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.160 And then you know, I think Seth Din used to 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.280 do something quite similar to that. Yeah. I used to 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.840 help the fish commission stock him and then I go 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.280 back and fish the holes three the big ones. Yeah, 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.800 and that last. Those fish last about a day. I'm 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.239 catching re lease guy, but nobody else is. In South Carolina, 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.680 it seems like, so you go catch the stockers, let 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.880 them go. Yeah yeah yeah. And then Homie Coup would 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.560 come down the river and just take it back. You know, 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.320 we had people all kinds of people casting that the river. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.520 You just walk up like, man, come home man. You know, 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.120 even in the delayed harvest. It's like here, my dad 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.200 pulled a gun on somebody one day because he was 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.000 doing that. Just worked him up just I probably shouldn't 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.040 said him up. Pistol whipped him. No, no, no, I 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.520 just worked him up just because we always I don't know, 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.360 just Dad's down there with the pistol. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.480 do a little fish, yeah yeah yeah. Statue of limitations 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:22.040 good and this guy yeah, and then he's got this 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.240 cooler full of fish and he's like, you know, what 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.240 are you doing man? Kind of you know he uh, 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.320 long story shore, he took that cooler. Fish, don't be 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:29.920 back in the river. He's like, I'm calling d n 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.240 R right now, just just because back home we have 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.200 one good little place we can fish, and everybody just 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:36.959 messes it up, it seems like, So tell me the 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:40.280 pistol pulling story though, So like, okay, so there you are. Yeah, 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.199 he's like, oh yeah, because the guy thought he was 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.560 a police and you know, he obviously wasn't. So um, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.680 I'm trying to get like, I mean, he did he 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.600 pull it on him like this, but I mean he 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.199 was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess that's what you 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.440 would call it. And then the guy dumped the fish off. Yeah, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.840 he took off him and him and two other people, yeah, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:00.600 you know, and then it took out an hour for 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.360 game ward and get there, and then they found him 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.000 on down the river. So it's just not legal to 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:11.280 fish that way at all. Yeah yeah, yeah, well yeah, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.880 I don't know general a general American rule of thumb 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:20.200 that this is the generalization you generally dasn't be casting 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:25.240 netting in fresh water, especially table you know what I mean. 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.800 But yeah, that's what I grew up fishing kind of streams, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:31.480 you know, no bigger than this room. And I thought 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.240 that was you know, you could that was the big water. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.080 And then I came out here and realized those are 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.040 just little little creeks. Back home, but uh yeah, I 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.920 graduated high school in two thousand and fifteen and uh 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.600 seventeen at the time, and just moved out here. I 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.280 didn't know anybody, and uh the first week I was here, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.400 you know, just started fishing, fishing my way out of 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.160 school pretty much two years. So you enrolled in school, yeah, 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:58.040 but Montana State flunked out. Yeah yeah, yeah. I just 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.160 couldn't pass myth at all. So I was like, man, 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.840 might as well be getting some enjoyment out of being here. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.480 So then you took off yeah yeah on the river. Yeah. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.680 I was here for two years and got two years 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.240 worth a good fishing in and uh yeah, man, just 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.079 loved it as a good place for a seventeen year 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.240 old to come figure it out and you know, not 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.640 get in trouble. I feel out there's uh I don't know, 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.520 there's like three cops in town compared to everywhere else 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.439 back home. So it's a good place for a kid 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.720 not to get in trouble in a sense. You feel 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.959 there's a low cop per criminal ratio out here. Oh yeah, 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.320 I don't know about the criminal ratio, but definitely definitely 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.439 I feel like, oh, just little cops, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.960 You can be walking down the road, but it's interesting perspective. Ever, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.800 Like I'll tell you, well, I do kind of notice 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.360 that a little bit because I think that, uh, New Mexico, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:47.280 the the depth and variety of law enforcement agencies that 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.280 maintain a presence in New Mexico was staggering, like in 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:54.000 a in a they have a heavy presence, just every lawn, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.600 everything imaginable. Yeah, because they got a buller patrol down 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.760 just like every other car. You know, I don't know 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.800 if I can make it down there. So you break 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:09.000 a lot of loss, yeah, I mean, yeah, do it elegantly, 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.720 but you're not a violator. No, not a game, no, 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.680 not a no, not at all, just you know, not 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.400 anything in the hunting fishing world breaking as at all. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.920 That's good. That's good. Um. He was gonna ask then 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.800 he left because you had a girlfriend somewhere. Yeah, So 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.720 I I had like a girlfriend back home and uh 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.320 pretty much uh like you left her to come here. Yeah, 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.199 I left her to come here, and then thanks got 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.760 kind of think of it that way. Uh yeah, but 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.680 that was even before we met. It was one of 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.199 those things. Uh, it was always my dream to come 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.559 out here, and so when I left, it was kind 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.840 of like eating my dream in my face coming back 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.439 and I got back and I was like, what did 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.600 I just do? You know what I mean? And so 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.440 I enrolled after I was here at Montana State, I 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.880 pretty much sold my clack of craft and went back home. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.040 And uh, the clack of craft got those seven songs 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.320 right there, and uh, well you wrote these songs on 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:06.360 this and that like that the soul the clack of craft, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.520 and that paid for that. So my parents didn't even 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.280 know I sang until I got back after after college, 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.440 and uh pretty much spiraled into this this project Jericho 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.760 Rose that tune as Uh, it's about Montana and my 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.800 experience leaving. Uh I was in it's kind of all 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.840 it all works out in a sense. Uh enrolled at 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.360 a community college back home after I came back, and 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.400 how to take I mean this tells you how far 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.319 along I was in school. I take our one oh 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.040 one my third year, you know what I mean? That 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.360 most people ain't be doing that, Yeah, running behind And 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.480 uh it was all for a reason though, because I 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.440 learned about this thing one day called the Rose of Jericho, 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.680 and I was like, man, that kind of perked my ears. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:50.120 It's uh it's a um, it's got all these supers Jericho? Right, Yeah, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.960 but this is like, h isn't that? Where was Saul 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.840 who was on the way to Jericho when he got blinded? 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.360 I'm not sure the Bible, I'm not sure is that Jericho? 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:05.920 Someone type that up? I can't talking room full of pagans. Listen, 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:12.080 there's a guy in the Bible who is uh not cool, 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:18.200 and they blind him, changes his ways? Wasn't he heading 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:24.000 to Jericho? Man? Seth? Really you don't know? Seth? No, 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.559 I should know. My grandmother would be upset with me. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.160 The lay some Bible learning on you guys. You take 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:32.679 huge stop talking a US a bit while I lay 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:38.440 some Bible lay. Okay, check this out. We've been talking 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:43.199 a lot about this, uh, this thing called the ass movement, 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:49.680 anti surface shipping movement, getting people to stop going relieving 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.320 themselves out in the bury it out in the woods 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.559 and long trails and a trailheads and whatnot, just to 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.040 generally reduce the Now that the whole world has a dog, 0:13:58.080 --> 0:13:59.960 it's bad enough of dogs. Then you add all the 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:05.200 people stuff in there, all the people excrement um. This 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:11.360 guy sends a thing in Dotero from deuterotomy to fourteen 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:18.360 this is in the Bible. You shall have a place 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.920 outside the camp, and you shall go out to it, 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.800 and you shall have a trowel with you, sit down outside, 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.640 you shall dig a hole with it and turn back 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.720 and cover up your excrement. For the Lord your God 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:38.440 moves around your camp by night. I like it, dude. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.640 I was like, this is no way that's true. There's 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.760 no way that's true. And so I did some searching, 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.760 and it is true. And I'll tell you here's another 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:47.320 I was like, is that really true? So I looked 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.840 up and here's another translation, same thing. Deuterotomy. This is 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:57.120 from the new International version Deuterotomy to fourteen. Designate a 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.480 place outside the camp where you can go to relieve 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.760 yourself as part of your equipment, have something to dig with, 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.960 and when you relieve yourself, dig a hole and cover 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:12.400 up your excrement. For the Lord your God moves about 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.120 in your camp to protect you and to deliver your 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:19.040 enemies to you. Your camp must be holy so that 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:23.320 he not see among you anything indecent and turn away 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:28.000 from you. That's a fact. I bet the dude from 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:31.360 the founder that asked movement, doesn't he know about that? 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.960 Was he headed to Jericho Saul, and he changed after 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:40.400 this happened, he changed his name to Paul. The Road 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:44.840 to Jericho. I looked it up. It says Jesus when 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:51.080 he was passing through Jericho. Um, he cured two blind men. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.920 Now yeah, and the Road to Jericho is like this 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.680 very dangerous road that was beset by robbers. And is 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:03.200 that your own word? Yep, it is. Um. Yeah, it 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.440 was just like a dangerous road and it had something 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:09.720 to do with the Samaritans and the Jews. And I 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.320 didn't see anything about Saul or Paul. Yeah, I'm not 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.880 seeing soul. No, never mind. But yeah, anyways, you found 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:20.000 out about the rules. It's pretty much this desert desert 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:26.680 plant and meant like like why the word Jericho in 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.720 there but the desert plant. Yeah. Yeah, so it's got 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.120 all these superstitions, and uh, for me, my writing process 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.560 really started. Uh I'm not I don't do it. Uh, 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.960 I'm always grew up. I could barely read in front 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.040 of the class, always a real shy guy, you know. Um, 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.320 And pretty much the way I came into music was natural. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.920 Its therapy and uh, you know, hard times kind of 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.760 that's what comes out. And uh that perked my ears 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.720 up when I hear hear anything interesting like that. And 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.920 that was the first kind of you know, real phrase 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.800 or you know, just that play just language. You know 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.280 that I don't perks the hair in your years, if 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.200 you know what I mean. And so I started reading 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.479 into it, and you know, if you put water on 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.800 this plant, it comes back to life, and it's got 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.760 all these like superstitions, and I was like, that's kind 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.160 of like my experience, you know, out in Montanio. If 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.960 you read the lyrics, it's, uh, it's pretty much a 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.280 poetry about you know, having a second chance in a way, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.240 and uh that gets it up. Um, are you gonna 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.760 sing that one later? A different one? I'm anost singing 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.800 y'all some new stuff the whole world. Anything that the 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.639 world has ever heard has literally been the first songs 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.960 that anything that's out is the first songs I wrote. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.080 And since then, um, you know, I've got over eighty 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.160 songs I've written last two years. And uh you still fish? 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.879 Oh yeah, that's what the dream is to do this 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.600 to where we can fish you know all the time. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.680 Are you regarded as like a song factory? That sounds 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.720 a lot of music at this point at this point, 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.480 I can't pick up a guitar and just play it. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.320 It's always you know, uh, you know, because I hear 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.560 things and like words just come out in a way. Um. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.280 And especially it's like building a muscle. Um. I don't know. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.879 I've become obsessed with it keeps me up not but 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.040 that's how you get get going. I mean, do you 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:13.360 have peers that are cranking out eighties songs? Most people? 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.720 Are you spitting into that cup there? Just a little 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.040 bit of grizzly if that's that's if that's that's fine. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.760 Grizzly our friend dirt myth Uh he doesn't choose grizz 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.000 he says no, he says, uh no, I got a 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:31.840 good job. He choose what's it you? That was my 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:33.679 original because I was a long cut guy for a 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.480 long cough time. The Copenhagen was my favorite. But uh, 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.480 they don't make good pouches, you know. And I can 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.160 sound check with it. So you got a pouch in area. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:45.479 You see it right here up there, but nobody ever 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.800 knows tucked in there? Well, I know you gotta and 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:52.159 you're spitting into it. Yeah, you'll swallow it. Occasionally we 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:53.720 had a guy right in he works with. He's a 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.960 deer researcher. I think he's in Pennsylvania. And he said, 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.160 when he goes into that deer pen, you can't bring 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.159 your dipping. What was that you said, they'll tear the 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.960 pocket right off your jeans to get that dip out 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.480 to put that on a commercial. He said, if you 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.640 put Levi Garrett in your back pocket, he said, they'll 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:14.840 rip your pants. Starts hanging tree stands. He makes some 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.679 like Premos products or something out of that. They'll be 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.800 like little pellets as it kind of frowned upon to 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.080 be uh, you know in a stand with that. You know, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.720 does that repeale uh anything? I don't know. What do 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:30.720 you think I mean when I when I used to 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:35.320 cheer it, I had no problem being in the standard 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.680 in the field with it. Um. I don't know. I 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.119 don't think it's laying down that much sin. Yeah, you 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:46.200 think you'll end up catching lip cancer. I'm gonna quit 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.879 here soon. Yeah. Yeah, you should get with dirt. You 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:51.880 guys could just hang out and chew. Yeah. We should 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.240 have called him up and hand to come over. That's 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.119 what I mean. These people got in the East sig bars. 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:56.440 You know, I thought it was a weird idea of 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.800 what people just went somewhere and dip you know, kind 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:03.800 of like a dip ball. That's the way, like a 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:08.560 little water. Am most people getting some good sleep, like 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.960 a cigar like I remember had through a work thing. 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.600 One of the worst things that ever happened. He was 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.040 I had to go to a cigar bar and like, 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.040 oh my god, that grizzly reminds me of that Ransack 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.520 cabin in Alaska because the only thing that wasn't to 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.159 our part was a couple of cans of grizzly, and 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.200 Buck was thrilled to see that grizzly sitting there. I'll 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.399 tell you another interesting about that ran we got. We 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:32.040 were in a we slept in a cabin that had 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.560 been a bear had moved into it, and oh my god. Oh, 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.120 if you want to go look, go to Instagram. You'll 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:40.320 see a video of this cabin at Stephen Ronella your 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:44.440 scroll back. I mean, this cabin got destroyed, yeah, by 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.600 a bear. Um and this bear would bite everything open. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.719 But what's funny is he didn't figure out there's all 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.199 these glass jars of salmon, and he bit all the 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:58.960 canned I don't know what it is he bit like 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.440 if he was a can of mean beans, he'd chew 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:08.960 it open. The salmon glass, jars of salmon never touched. 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:14.320 Didn't figure out like it blows my mind, and he 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.480 put everything open. And the other thing laying on the 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.040