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Speaker 1: Reallysi Taylor McCall's stay you from from South Carolina. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stay close to that, mighty, I'll get close to it.

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Speaker 1: Tell people how you don't like to wear your own

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Speaker 1: What about a shirt that just said Dave, because that'd

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Speaker 1: you're talking the Blizzard of oz Yo. Yeah yeah, you fan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my dad, that's what I grew up on. A big

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Speaker 1: That's usually the way it goes when I don't never

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Speaker 1: So then you took off yeah yeah on the river. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: let you got drink that because I use no, because

424
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 1: here's what happened when I opened it up. They had

425
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: been corrupted and they had been soaked inside. And then

426
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 1: I was like, who cares? And I was like it

427
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 1: was probably Bear pissed. I don't know. I didn't need him.

428
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: I thought it was Buck had some of that. He

429
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: had some of that black that black rifle coffee black powder.

430
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: He had two of those in his pocket. I didn't

431
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: tell anybody about that. I didn't know. I thought you

432
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,239
Speaker 1: were drinking that folder stuff. No. So this is kind

433
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: of funny because um, we're rafting down the river and

434
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: Bucks got a friend that's got a cabin and and uh,

435
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna go up there, so I don't bring any Bucks. Like, well,

436
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: instead of carrying stuff up there, we're gonna hike up

437
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: to this cab instead of carrying stuff up there. I'll

438
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: replace there's food there, and then I'll make sure to

439
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: replace anything that's there. And then I remember Seth being like, man,

440
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like we should bring some food.

441
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: And I remember shooting him down be like no, man,

442
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: we got a whole plan, you know. And we get

443
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: up there and it's like yeah, like nothing nothing, no coffee, yeah,

444
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: no dinner, no breakfast, nothing. This place was ransack. That's

445
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: the worst mindset that I think you're gonna replace. That's like, uh,

446
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, you don't replay stuff? When he hung over, Hey,

447
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: what do you think of this? Right here? That's what

448
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: I saw this morning. So we had a guest on,

449
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: Bob Reid, who's a Burmese python expert, and I got

450
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: talking about snake oil and we're talking about how, you know,

451
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: people say a snake oil salesman. Well, it's longer that

452
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: I was talking about how these guys we met in

453
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: South America were saying that you can take the oil

454
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 1: from what was that snake down there? The Anacondas right

455
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: green Ana Connor. I don't know, is this a trip

456
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: that I was on. I remember this this one when

457
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: your first time down there with anaconda like thirteen sixteen

458
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: eighteen foot snakes. And the dude told me two interesting things.

459
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: He said, we we walked up to one and he

460
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: was explained to me, like what I would call a superstition,

461
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: what he would call just the truth. He was saying,

462
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: if I touched that snake with my bow, just touch it.

463
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: You can touch with a regular stick. But if I

464
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: were to touch that snake with my bow, it would

465
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: die of very painful death mhm. And I said, like

466
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: how long? He said, forty five minutes just from contacting

467
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: it with a human bow. And I said, what do

468
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: you why would you do that? What do you use

469
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: it for? And he said that when you use it

470
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: to the fat the oil rendered from the snake to

471
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: treat arthritis. And then explained this this Burmese python expert.

472
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: And he made me realize something I hadn't put together

473
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: is that when you say, like someone's a snake oil salesman,

474
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 1: because he said, people used to attribute snake grease, snake

475
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: fat with all these as having great like natural pathic

476
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: or homeopathic qualities. Essential old salesman. So then he just

477
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: brought us a court. You know that he didn't have

478
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: the lid on tight, which is weird because I don't

479
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: view this stuff as appetizing. I had a tightened lid

480
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: or something to turn court jar of Burmese python oil.

481
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: I have a label maker, and I made that label

482
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: for display. I like the no ship part. My label

483
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: says snake oil, no ship, this is oil from a python.

484
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: That's what I was watching uh episode on on Netflix

485
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: the other night of when you was down with these

486
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: guys that they're using their hand to cast in the river.

487
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: I was like, he's definitely saying some snakes in that area.

488
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: Do you say any that's that's that area where I

489
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: saw these the and not these the anacondas um. Wouldn't

490
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: you guys eat that? Like? I find that oil almost repulsive.

491
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like snakes. I mean not that I

492
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't like snakes, and it's not like a big

493
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: snake guy. He's that's rendered fat though, right, it's rendered fat.

494
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: I'll pass it around. Did he use it well? Did

495
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: just for you? Does he like often make he already

496
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: had it? He already had it. It's brought me some

497
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: of his stash. Did you see that? Did I put

498
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: on your desk some yeah, prickly pear. Same guy, I

499
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: like that. Put that on my oatmeal this morning. Did

500
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: you did I bring you some choked chair? Uh? Yeah, jam,

501
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: same guy? Did I bring you some of that honey? No,

502
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: it's on your desk, thank you. Different guy. I thought

503
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: it was some moon chield. Was like, man, that's a

504
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: little early for But what I was saying is it's

505
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: so unappetizing to me that I wouldn't be able to

506
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: like fry up an egg in that oil. Yeah, that's

507
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: on appetising to me too. I definitely would give it

508
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: a go. Yeah, I'd do a little teeth did you guys,

509
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: just to say, next time you're on the podcast, guess what.

510
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: I had a couple of over mediums and pothon oil

511
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: this morning. It looks like he could have filtered it

512
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: a little better. There's some solids down on the bottom. Yeah,

513
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta talk to it. I don't

514
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: want to call him a criticize him, be like, hey, man,

515
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, but you know, next time, next time you,

516
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: next time you maybe some snake oil that I'll not use.

517
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: Put the lid on top, Put the lid on and

518
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: Brodi's got some tips. He's got some tipsy as well. Recently,

519
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: I recently got some some oil from a good buddy

520
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: of mine, and uh, I had some criticism about it,

521
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: but I was like, you know, I'm not gonna say

522
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: anything because it's hard to Yeah, it's hard to have

523
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: a nice big batch of it. It might be a

524
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: buddy sitting next to me if you do that. If

525
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: you do do it, what you do is um, you

526
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: know about a compliment sandwich? Have we covered this? We have,

527
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: but it'll give it to me again. A compliment when

528
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: you got it, when you get when you need just

529
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: need to like give someone some feedback that they're not

530
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: could be receptive to you. Compliment him, yes, start positive,

531
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: so you'd say, my god, bro, do you look good today? Right?

532
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: You're working out? Can you tell me about the basic

533
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: so I can do it? Can you tell you the

534
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: basic problem? Well, the oil, uh, instead of being snow white,

535
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: bear grease, it's got just a little touch of color

536
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: to it, and it has a little touch of flavor

537
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: to it like it might have like the cracklings might

538
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: have been cooked a little bit too long and you know, pudding.

539
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: But it's out like that, super clean. Yeah, you know

540
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you'd say, my god, Brody, do

541
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: you look good today? I feel like you kind of

542
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: screwed that barrel up by over cooking the crack ones.

543
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: My god, your kids are nice. That's a comment sam

544
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 1: like three completely unrelated constructive criticism. It's not like I've

545
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: got a lifetime experience render and bear fat, you know,

546
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: quick news item. I saw that, Like I hesitate to

547
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: do this to mention this news story in the news

548
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: because it's a type of news that I generally hate,

549
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, news agencies that that do news.

550
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: The point of the news being that the reader will

551
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: be annoyed and have the response of like, what's the

552
00:29:53,720 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: world coming to? Right? Yeah, like just how like this

553
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: has gone too far? A war on Christmas? You know,

554
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like like that kind of news, you know

555
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: what I mean. This is one of those news stories.

556
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: A boy so now that but like now that kids

557
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: are at home, like some of you kids are at

558
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: home for school, right, and you're doing zoom. So a

559
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: little boy in Louisiana is at home in his bedroom

560
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: and there's a picture that he's got his shirt, but

561
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: he's got like a dress shirt buttoned up to the

562
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: top button like he was kidd on the planet um

563
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: nine years old. But in his room is his baby

564
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: gun and he gets suspended what suspended from zoom? Suspended

565
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: from school because in his room is a baby gun

566
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: and you can't have guns at school. So seriously, he's

567
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: not actually he's going to classes. He's in his bedroom.

568
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: The story is like, like I gathered that this is

569
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 1: not a problem, that I think this problem is going

570
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: to go away for this boy very quickly. But that

571
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: was the initial repercussion. They suspended it. They won't allow

572
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: him to He got kicked out of school for having

573
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: begun in his bedroom during his online learning. What is

574
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: this world coming to? This will not stand next it

575
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: will be a war on Christmas. So yeah. Another thing

576
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 1: is this is the last last word? Is last time

577
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: I bring this up? But the plot does sticking around

578
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: squirrels biting nuts off other squirrels. We got a thing. Listen.

579
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: A vet in Australia rode in to say that he

580
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: this is not squirrels, it's not America. But he does

581
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: find that male rabbits will get in fights and it

582
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: can result in testicular injuries. From Byton to the other rabbit.

583
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: The plot thickens, so Spencer's gonna have to do some

584
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: more research taking to that one. Now here's the other

585
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: thing that's not news, but it's I just thought this

586
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: was fascinating that was read about the other day. I've

587
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: been reading. I don't know why I haven't read this,

588
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: like like Osborne Russell's journal. Have you guys read Osborne

589
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Russell's journal. It's kind of like the most one of

590
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: the most important historical texts about like the Mountain Men

591
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: and the beaver Travis, you read it, dude, I've been

592
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: reading reference. I don't. I can't. Like, I feel like

593
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: such an idiot for having not like actually read his journal.

594
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: It is unbelievable. One, the amount of shootouts those guys

595
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: get into into the back and forth and up and

596
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: down um hiking. You mean just uh, they're in Salt Lake,

597
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: they're in the headwaters of the Snake, They're on the

598
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: lower Yellowstone before it's like, who, like, give a quick synopsis.

599
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: Who's Osborne Russell. Osborne Russell is a just a dude

600
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: who signs on with a fur company, doesn't know ship

601
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: um heads out west trap beavers, and keeps a meticulous

602
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: journal of where they go and what they do. Oh,

603
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: I think he's the guy that just details everything that

604
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: happens every day. For No, that's the different dude. Thirty

605
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: years later on the Muscle Shell that was called Life

606
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: and Death of the Mouth Muscle Shell, Osborne Russell's journal

607
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: is like, it's just his journal. Did he hang out

608
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 1: with some of the big names. He travels with Bridger,

609
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: so he's in Jim Bridgers camp, writes about that all

610
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: the time. He didn't realize, he didn't like have a

611
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: way to think that Jim Bridger was whatever. But he's in.

612
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: He's traveling with Bridger. He got like a big crew

613
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: of trappers, and this main camp moves, and as the

614
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: main camp moves, they kind of pick like, Okay, we're

615
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: gonna work this river and then go over the past

616
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: and work that river. And the main camp moves, and

617
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: in there are camp tenders and fur dressers, guy's skin

618
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: and flesh and whatnot. And then you got these little

619
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: bands of trappers. And so the bands of trappers go

620
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: off and do a loop and come down and find

621
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: the main camp and check in, and do a loop

622
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: and find the man camp and check in, always getting

623
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: in skirmishes shooting tons of big horn sheep like they

624
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: eat more big horns the places they run into big horns,

625
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, talk about seeing a thousand big horns on

626
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: the hill, just eating big horns. So many big horns

627
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: that they're in one valley and it's hard to get

628
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: through the winters. Not enough food, so they decided to

629
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: move camp where the whole camp can just live on

630
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: big horns. Not There was a tribe name the sheep eaters.

631
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: He talks about those guys too. He meets some in

632
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: what's now Yellowstone, and he describes how they had no horse.

633
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: They had had a horse once that they got from

634
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: some other trappers and the horse died. They had a

635
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 1: bunch of panther hides, which he found interesting. They made

636
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: most are clothes out of sheep. They didn't use flint

637
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: and steel. They used bow drills to start fire. They

638
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: had trapped all they said. They killed all the beavers

639
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: in the area, but didn't realize that the furs were

640
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: valuable and just ate the meat and wish they had

641
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: saved him so they could sell the fur. And their

642
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: bows were made out of elk horn and sheephorn, and

643
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: they were three ft long, and he took like Osborne

644
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: Russell like really likes these dudes. And he said they

645
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: would travel in small family groups and not like relate

646
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: to other is he go into detail about how that

647
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: the horn and he doesn't describe no, he doesn't describe it.

648
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: But he's like very impressed with these guys. So were

649
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: they would it be fair to say they were like

650
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: not quite as advanced as some of the other tribes

651
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: that were, or they were just kind of living in

652
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: a you know what I'm saying. He likes them better.

653
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: He likes them a lot, like they likes him better.

654
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: It was just very impressed with the ingenuity. Probably what

655
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: he was what he seems to impress him most is

656
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: by the time he's all there, there had already been

657
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: a lot of trade going on, so horses. Everybody had horse.

658
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: Like most of the tribes he's encountering and traveling, you know,

659
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: they're they're like very friendly with the crow. They traveled

660
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: the crow. Most of the tribes he's traveling with have horses,

661
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: have firearms, have flint and steel, steel cookware, and so

662
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: if you look at like what he's saying about them,

663
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: like the things, he's like, oh and they this, and

664
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: they this, and they this. It's mostly like he's talking

665
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: about the way everybody would have been simply fifty years earlier. Yeah,

666
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: they hadn't adopted all that stuff yet, so he caught them.

667
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: Could even be like you could almost say that thirty

668
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: years earlier, thirty forty years earlier, everyone he would have

669
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: So he's just looking at some people that hadn't adopted.

670
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: They were living like in the very high country, not

671
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: associating down in the lower valleys, and they were like

672
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: still living like all primitive goods. And he really dug it. Uh,

673
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: he'sawing about. He spends a lot of time at the

674
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: crow and he says that when again, man, this is

675
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: not from a crow person. This is from a white

676
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: dude traveling with the crow, capturing like his understanding of

677
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: what's going on. So I'm not telling you that this

678
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: is like the truth. I'm saying this is like crow

679
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: culture as understood by a white trapper. He said, when

680
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: a crow village moves into a new moves camp and

681
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: there's buffalo in the vicinity, you can't just go out

682
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: and hunt, like, you can't just charge off and spook

683
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: everything out like it's part of a concerted effort, and

684
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: you have to get like council permission to begin hunting.

685
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: If you break this rule, the first offense is your

686
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: hunting equipment is destroyed. If you do it again in

687
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: your life, your horses are killed, your lodge is destroyed,

688
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: and you're beaten. A third offense is death by shooting.

689
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: We should have more game laws like that. Dude. They'll

690
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: mess around. That's what in Lewis and Clark. I read

691
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: some of their journals. What is it? What's the relationship

692
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: is this guy? Earlier or after? Well after? Well after? Okay?

693
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: Just if you fell asleep on guard? How many you

694
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: have fifty sixty lashes? I'd be like, Man, I ain't

695
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: going out with y'all boys. I know on the show

696
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: I talked before about uh when Stephenson, who spent a

697
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: lot of time with He's got this book, My Life

698
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: with the Eskimo, and he spent much time with Innuit

699
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: hunters in the High Arctic of Canada, and he describes

700
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: how people like hunters will have hunting partners and they'll

701
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: even be like a hunter and his hunting partner will

702
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: be that that they're all left side and right side,

703
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: that they're like the left side and right side of

704
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: a unit, and when they get something, the left side

705
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: of the thing goes to the left side, the right

706
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: side of the thing goes to the right side, and

707
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: that's how they distribute game amongst person's hunting partner. And

708
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: talking about the crow, Osborne Russell explains um, when they're

709
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: doing like a collective style hunting, like you know, riding

710
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: a herd down and shooting into it, the first person

711
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: who arrives at a dead buffalo is entitled to one

712
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: third of the meat. If the person who killed the

713
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: buffalo is the fourth one on the spot, he only

714
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: gets the hide and tongue. There's no way that this

715
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: person who killed it can get in any circumstance, can

716
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: get any more than one third of the meat if

717
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: a second and third person appears before it is placed

718
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: on the horse for pack, meaning like you get one

719
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: if some if you if you don't get on your

720
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: horse by the time other people show up, then it's divided.

721
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: They get thirds. So that's interesting. You know what, my buddy,

722
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: One time I went to this thing where they're testing

723
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: out how effective beer commercials are. And you get a

724
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: dial and as you're interested, you turned the dial up

725
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: and when you're not interested, turned the dial down. I

726
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: wish we should. I wish we had those like from

727
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: for you for us, because I can't tell if what

728
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: I'm telling you is interesting or not. That was very interesting. Yeah,

729
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: that was interesting. Um, we'll not say one top with

730
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: him and then then yann he's gotta do something. Uh

731
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: A guy. In addition to that snakel a guy sent

732
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: me a turkey call made from a turtle shell mm hmm,

733
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: which is a famous old thing. I've just got the residents.

734
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: Sound good, dude, it's so cool. It's a readier slider

735
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: shell and then it's got late glued like to the

736
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: bottom carapist. I want to see that. It's super cool, man,

737
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: what's the striker? Looked like he made it. It's got

738
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: a bone top and them and I don't know what

739
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: kind he told me? What kind of would boy cameraber?

740
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: What kind of boy do you put on there? But

741
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: it sounds good. It's so cool. Yeah. I was shocked

742
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: star pick made out of as illegal to have now,

743
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: but that's one of the laws, Like yeah, yeah, yeah,

744
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: no not me. Yeah, that wouldn't mean that's a pass

745
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: down because there it's like a hundred dollar guitar pick,

746
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: and I lose guitar picks every day. What uh turtle

747
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: show you know? And uh yeah, I'll make a guitar

748
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: pick out of a tarpan scale. I don't know, but

749
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: because he's a good guitar pick guy from Brian May

750
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: from Queen. He used quarters or what's the equivalent, these

751
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: old something I don't know quarters for playing. I found

752
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: that out the other day and I was like, man,

753
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: that's wild. So he every time they're on tour there

754
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: his guitar check just goes and gets a saka. These

755
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: old quarters he uses and yeah, um, so Yanni's gotta

756
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: do uh yeah, he's gotta do a book report about something.

757
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Brody will probably be able to add to

758
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: this much times he spent this because Yannie, Uh, this

759
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: is the second report he's giving us. Can you make

760
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: a diddy? It goes um Yanni's book reports about videos

761
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: and articles or something like that. Yan book reports. Well,

762
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't know about I can try. Yeah, what would

763
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: you do? It would be like a jingle? Yeah, what

764
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: would you like? Imagine it's a show and there's a segment,

765
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, and there's a song to precede the segment.

766
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: So you're kicking off Yanni's Book Report, which is like

767
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: a segment on the show. I'm trying to think I

768
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: could do that Yan's Book Report. Man, I can't. I

769
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: can't even saying happy birthday. Man, I'm just not good

770
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: with little jingles like that. Let's do a quick jingle.

771
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: I mean I can try. Yeah, do it. I'll grab

772
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: a damn retire to do it. You gotta put your

773
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: dip down, you gotta get your chunk of turtle shell out. Oh,

774
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: the scale on a turtle shell something like that. Yeah,

775
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that's illegal to have. Maybe it's certain turtles.

776
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: They don't care if you can catch a snap and turtle.

777
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: They don't care if you pick a guitar with the scale.

778
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: So Yanni's book Yanni's Book Reports. No, it's like Yanni's

779
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Book reports about articles and videos say that, or just play,

780
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: just play something. How do you want to do it?

781
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: I would sing it and play to it, and it

782
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: would be like something to the effect of like it's

783
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: time for you know what do you what do you think?

784
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: Any Like it's time for Janni's Yeah, Phil, time for kids.

785
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: Gather around, Yeah, gather round, it's time for Yanni. Yeah.

786
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: Do you remember a book reports from school? They were

787
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: boring and sucked, But this is different. Book report about

788
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: a video. I don't know funking work with that. I'm trying.

789
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: It's chest with molesters here, he'd actly, he'd take someone

790
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: else's idea and act like you did it himself. Well,

791
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: you gotta put that thing on there. I'm just gonna

792
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: try to get you know what that's called. It's called ok.

793
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: I just don't know how to make something jingly. That's

794
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: kind of the way I plays like, I don't know

795
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: real date. I'm trying to think of a way to

796
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: make it, to make it deeport. Oh, I like it.

797
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: That already sounds good. Yeah, I'll just put some lyrics

798
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: into it. Yeah the gold Hit him with that, that's perfect.

799
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: Ill do a clean one. Okay, So we're gonna we're

800
00:44:53,320 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: gonna do Yanni segment. Wow two? Yeah, hit him with

801
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: the self spoken Yeah, better be really good. All right, boy,

802
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: I'll try. Man, that's what I'm bad with. Oh No,

803
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: that was perfect cause I was trying to take it

804
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: down the whole other avenue. Man, it was a lot

805
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: worse than that. People all the time it's like, can

806
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: you play Happy Birthday? And it's like, man, I don't know,

807
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, like I ain't good with that, you know

808
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: what I mean? You know that John Pryan John Priyan's

809
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: live album which he got one. He's like, he says,

810
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: I learned those three chords when I was fourteen, and

811
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: I guess I just never decided to learn any more

812
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, that's what they always say is nobody

813
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: knows what key that Happy Birthday is in. It's always

814
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: different every time, no matter how you get around, because

815
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: nobody knows how to easily sing. You know that guy

816
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: still collects World. She's off that song. You can't like

817
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: put that song in the movie. Really no, Wow, it's

818
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: a covered song. It's a covered song, and get a

819
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: license that sunbitch and song go ahead. That's interesting. It

820
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: might not be true. I gotta say this is an

821
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: interesting true I think it went. It went like, what's

822
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: what's the term for it? When something loses its copyright

823
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: that happens. It happened like four or five years ago,

824
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: but like up until then it was I just said,

825
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: it might not be true, so so you can republic domain.

826
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying having birthday is now public public domain.

827
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: God can breathe easy. You can play that at your

828
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: next show, and I have to worry you put it

829
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: on your next album even enough to worry about put

830
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: that little Johnnie segment in the album. If people are

831
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: gonna be waiting now every episode, they're gonna wait to

832
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: hear those chords. Oh yeah, did you get a good

833
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: recording of that so we can use and get you

834
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: a better one too? Can we license at all? Yeah? Yeah,

835
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: I'll give you a better one when a half time.

836
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm just not I don't know. That's ah, well, do

837
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: you justice? Um? What was the last one that I did?

838
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: You did a book report on that There's Links or

839
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: Bobcat that went along ways away. Oh yeah, there was

840
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: that one. But you're I think you're incorrect with saying

841
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: that's only only my second one, because I did one

842
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: about that girl that had that they found the gum

843
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: and there was there was the preserved Oh yeah, yeah

844
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: with Jesse Griffiths, and Jesse Griffins was saying he wanted

845
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: to marry that girl. Yeah, they found the remains, that's right,

846
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: that was in Texas. Yeah, they found yeah, and she

847
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: had eaten Hazel nuts and Mallard duck. Yeah, from those

848
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: articles were a lot longer. This article here, it's a

849
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: video might be literally Yeah did you watch the video?

850
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: I sent it to you to watch. Yeah, well, CPW,

851
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: I like what you guys are doing. This is all great,

852
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: but I'm sure a lot of UH State wildlife agencies

853
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: struggled with this. But whoever put the media together for this,

854
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: they were in love with this. One go pro shot

855
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: that they have with the underside of the plane is

856
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: this guy turned into a compment sandwich because started start,

857
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: you got a backward I'm gonna I'm gonna knock them

858
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: down first, then I'll build the build them up. But

859
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it was like a nine minute video and

860
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: uh I think they could have gotten the point across

861
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: in two or three cheese. Man just comes out just

862
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: swinging producer, and that's what happens in this job. Man,

863
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: you have a real hard time watching stuff and not

864
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: looking at it. Um you know with that sort of

865
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: I yeah, no hardcore producing. You feel the same way.

866
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff you don't have. What I

867
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: would have said, like, man, those guys are handsome in

868
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: that video and their kids are really nice. Look you know,

869
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: I spent a big decade uh hunting and fishing in Colorado,

870
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: and I have a lot of respect and feel that

871
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: the CPW does a great job managing their wildlife resources

872
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: over there. They take it serious. And well that's another

873
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: cannon wors. We want to look at that video show

874
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: you guys want to know what this GoPro shot is.

875
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's the cameras mounted on like the strut

876
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: of the plane, pointed towards the tail end, and like

877
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: halfway between the strut um and the rear wheel, let's

878
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: attached to the to the very back end of the

879
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: of the tail of the plane, there is what looks

880
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: to be like a it's basically just a shoot. An

881
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: outcoming from the shoot is like at this point it

882
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: looks just like a ball of vapor which used to

883
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: be water before the shoot was open, and inside of

884
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: it you can see it looks like a little black specks,

885
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: but what they are is inch and a half long trout.

886
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: They're falling out of an airplane. This, folks, is how

887
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: Colorado CPW stocks their high country lakes is by airplane.

888
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: Blows my mind. Oh you have never heard this. I'd

889
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: heard of it, but you know, like sometimes you hear

890
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: stuff without really thinking about yeah, you know, I mean

891
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: like you're like, oh, whatever, I accept it, sure, but

892
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: hadn't like actually thought like, well what am I accepting?

893
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: What it? What it? What goes into it? Meaning that

894
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: they would land and be like oh cool, I'm alive

895
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: and this like just like watching that be I'm like,

896
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: how in the world are they not just dead or dead?

897
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: I know? Yeah, Well, they do a good job explaining

898
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: why they're not dead or dead, which is that they're

899
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: only an inch and a half long, so they don't

900
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of mass to them. They get down

901
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: to they'd like to be at a hundred feet I

902
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: think they said the space is a hundred fifty feet

903
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: off the surface of the water when they drop them,

904
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: and because there's so little, there's just a lot of

905
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, air resistance, and they're not like they're not

906
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: plummeting like a you know, an object with more master

907
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: You can kill somebody with a five pound trout, well,

908
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: and the five pound trout would also hit the water

909
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 1: and probably explode just like you would. But these suckers, yeah,

910
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: they they talk about how they measure them out. Is

911
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: that in your report? Uh, you mean about how they

912
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: just how it's like they know per mill leader like

913
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: a bucket, like a measuring cup. Yeah, yeah, that's what

914
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But they haven't figured out they know by

915
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: a volume measurement how many fish are in there, so

916
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: they know that whatever it is, there's three hundred inch

917
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: and a half trout in a court of of inch

918
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: and a half trout mass, right, So that I got

919
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: they're counting them. Yeah, but yeah, they they go and

920
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: get the row from high country lakes. So it's not

921
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: like they're like making like putting in a non native fish, right.

922
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: They go and get row from fish that are natives

923
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: to Colorado, bring that down to a hatchery, raise them

924
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: up till they're inch and a half long, and then

925
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: basically transport those back up to these high country lakes.

926
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: But they're putting them in some lakes that never had

927
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: trout that may I didn't catch that in this article

928
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: or the video, but I think they do. I think

929
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: they do stock some lakes that never had a trout population.

930
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's a lot of effort. Yeah, And because

931
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: they're saying that, they think too that because the head

932
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: has a little more mass is heavier than the rest

933
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: of the body that they actually probably eventually end up

934
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: pointing straight down and they enter the water that ways,

935
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: as opposed to landing flat on their sides. Huh did

936
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: they get into what um Mitch Petrie sentences, Did they

937
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: get into what uh survival rate? Did not did not

938
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: catch that, but they said it's very, very efficient compared

939
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: to what it would take otherwise to stock these high

940
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: country lakes, which would basically be by having to pack

941
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: either on horseback or human back because a lot of

942
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: this is wilderness. You know, there's no roads going up there,

943
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: so you have to pack you know, aerated containers of water, um,

944
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: which is takes a lot. Yeah, I see actually seen

945
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: videos of them pack can trout in on horseback? Well, yeah,

946
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: you remember Mike Rule, but he was telling us something

947
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: about like can they air dropped trout into a wilderness area?

948
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: I feel like you can't because remember Mike the helicopter thing,

949
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: and they couldn't land the helicopter. They do the helicopter

950
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: thing about home where I'm from on the Chattooga where

951
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: Deliverance was actually filmed. The helicopter man to stock trout.

952
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: Because Mike Rules talking about but that was the whole thing.

953
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: It was about the whole helicopter deal land in helicopters

954
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: and wilderness area you'd have a special permit. So you

955
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: think you can air drop a trout? I think so.

956
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: I used to fish lakes, alpine lakes in Colorado and

957
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: wilderness areas that for sure got stocked this way they

958
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: I just looked it up here. They stocked beavers in

959
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 1: the frank Church. Yeah. Cal's covered that and we've talked

960
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: about it, and that happened like oh time in and

961
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: none of this surprises me after this one of those

962
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: being real successful. Oh really, Yeah, sired like a whole

963
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: population of beavers. The Idaho uh uh Fishing Game has

964
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: a video of it on here. Yeah, i'd heard Cal

965
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: talked about that. I had heard about that, and they

966
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: brought some into re established populations in the frank Church

967
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: after guys like Osborne Russell killed them all. But um,

968
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: but this trout thing is just the thing that's always

969
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: going on, Like, don't go how many how many lakes?

970
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: How many lakes do they do? Uh? Three thirty lakes

971
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: and Boulder, Grand Jackson, and Larmer Counties, which draw northern

972
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: part of the state. Yeah, the Boulder County ones. I'm

973
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: sure I fished some of those in the Indian Peaks builderness.

974
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: Probably can you think of a utro, Yeah, he's doing

975
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: on one. I would just probably do like a like

976
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: a quicker, did he and then say, um, that was

977
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: that's all, folks, that's a oaks. Um. What was interesting,

978
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: and they did a nice way of getting out of

979
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 1: their little article here, is that they decided to add

980
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: in that that from when they're in an inch and

981
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: a half long, it takes them two years to become

982
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: ten inches long, which is which is the minimum size

983
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: limit to keep a trout in the state of Colorado.

984
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: So don't go rushing out there right now, folks, you can't.

985
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: It's not like back in uh and the Carolina Taylor

986
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: was just talking about there's not much to catch there

987
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: right now, but in two years two years is an

988
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: inch and a half to ten inches. I would never

989
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: guess that. I think it's because it's lakes are so still.

990
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: A lot of them are sterile. They just grew there

991
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: and they have such a short growing season. They're us No,

992
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:48,479
Speaker 1: I would say that have taken five years. Oh open

993
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: those sterile ass, cold ass, and remember reading something about

994
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: that in the hut. That's usually. I've seen some some

995
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: fly guys that get these real remote you know, alpon

996
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: lakes and they're catching smaller trout and it's like, you know,

997
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: you know, home fish are covering nice months a year.

998
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: You know. I think that periodically win or kill, which

999
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: is why they stock them this way, Like every few

1000
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: years they'll restock a lake because they win or kill.

1001
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: That's why they do at home. They summer killed at home.

1002
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: It's too hot. Uh, we just had our Oh you

1003
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: got the ultro? Yeah, can you heit real quick? Yeah? Man,

1004
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: tell you are really playing ball. I'm trying. I'm trying

1005
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: to appreciate, appreciate. I would I would not go in

1006
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: a wildly different direction for the ultro. I was like,

1007
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: your manager, oh go in the water direction or don't

1008
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: whatever whatever comes to your mind. Where everything. My kids

1009
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: are having to do their first book report touchtles, but

1010
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: it's like power point now, like they have to do

1011
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: slides and pictures and that. Yeah, it's not we had

1012
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: to do. But we were talking the other day how

1013
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: you have to have an end, you know, and she's like, well, fine,

1014
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna write the end. So there's that slide. Yeah,

1015
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: I think you can keep it simple. Keep it simple,

1016
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: all right? When I because when I'm hearing is like

1017
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm we either play something a little to to you know, um,

1018
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm hearing like when I'm hearing a little ditty is

1019
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: something like, you know, something funky y'all want? Oh no,

1020
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: that sounds a great outro. Huh you pulled out a

1021
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: little closer seth there too. Okay, So he does his

1022
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: book report video really really important. Well, you gotta say something.

1023
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: Oh forgot about that? What should I say? Thank you? Johnnie.

1024
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: It's a great book report and it's kind of like

1025
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: that free Pluto TV like news segment you saw in

1026
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: high school that kind of you know that kind of

1027
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, but I got you. Oh man,

1028
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: that puts a nice rap on it. Man, if you

1029
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: are happy with that, I'm happy. That was great. That

1030
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: was great. We just had um youth. Uh does a

1031
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 1: youth duck season? I think a lot of states do this, right, Yeah,

1032
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: youth in my home state of Michigan, Youth dear season

1033
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: is such a thing that I was texting with a

1034
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: buddy mind Tim back home, and he's sending me trail

1035
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: camp pictures of box and he's he's not joke when

1036
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: he said this. He says, I hope these two make

1037
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: it through youth season. Yeah, Like there's a lot of

1038
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: people that do you know that like hunt through their kids. Yeah,

1039
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: they're like, oh but like that one, that one, Yeah

1040
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: that makes sense, you can picture it. Parents are like

1041
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: that with everything. If you found a giant buck and

1042
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: yet youth your seeson coming up, of course you can

1043
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: be like, no, listen, junior, see I'm playing this game.

1044
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm playing on low. Like I'd almost be like, no,

1045
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: you can't shoot that buck, just to get him started

1046
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: out right, Yeah, you duck. And I took my boy

1047
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: out to a friend of mine's property who has like

1048
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: a beauty like a water fowl property. He is a

1049
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: duck fanatic and has like a sweet property for hunting

1050
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: ducks on maybe one of the sweetest ones in the mean,

1051
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: probably like one of the coolest duck things. It's a

1052
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: great spot. And he didn't And what was kind of

1053
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: funny is I remember him saying like now and then

1054
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: they have like a little youth opener event or something.

1055
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: So I was like enquiring because he said something like, oh,

1056
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, when you kick gets all or whatever. I thought.

1057
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: He said we had a youth open event. I inquired

1058
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,959
Speaker 1: with him about what that was the thing, and he said,

1059
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: why wouldn't even be in town, but if you want

1060
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: to take your boy out there, so no one's around,

1061
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: and like the ducks have been shot at all year, right,

1062
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: it ain't even like regular season, Like no, you don't

1063
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: hear any shots anywhere on youth duck opener. And we

1064
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: put decoys out in dark and we got there fifteen

1065
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: minutes early and it was like legal light with sixty

1066
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: and he's just like, like very interesting in what time

1067
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: it was, because some ducks are landing out in front

1068
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: of us, and at this point no different than you

1069
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: know most folks we hunt with very eager for it

1070
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: to turn the right time. And I'm like, just to

1071
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: kick him off. I allow him to, uh, we have

1072
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: one right out in front us, and I'm like, okay,

1073
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, you can go ahead and in Arkansas, you know,

1074
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: and he are and he like snakes the barrel out

1075
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: of the blind in Arkansas, this duck nevery moves, you know.

1076
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, hey, that's that's that's that, Like

1077
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: you got one now, it's you're gonna learn how to

1078
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: hit him out of the air, you know. And he

1079
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: just the one duck's coming in and I'm like, hey,

1080
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: go you know, but the ducks aren't that wise. Yeah,

1081
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: they're not spooky yet. So he like drags it out

1082
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: long enough for basically the duck is like landed by

1083
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: the time he shoots and gets that duck. Then a

1084
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: while later one just comes in from behind us and

1085
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: before he can get on it lands in the thing.

1086
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: And I said, hey, listen, now here's what you're gonna do.

1087
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: Get ready, I want you to step out of this

1088
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: blind and go jump it yo hey or whatever and

1089
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: jump it and shoot it flying away and practice that.

1090
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: Don't want to jump, no, he just seeks out there,

1091
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: hey boom. But then then I was getting little irritated

1092
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: with him because he's shooting sitting ducks because I was saying, yeah,

1093
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 1: because it's like it's like, you know, you know, our friend,

1094
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: like he's right, yeah, he's like he likes he likes all,

1095
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: he appreciates the sort of he likes ducks done. The

1096
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: duck wait like that, know, but I think he gives

1097
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: he probably gives everybody a pass. He was very excited,

1098
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: but I was also like, every first duck I've ever

1099
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: heard of has been shot on the water. He shot

1100
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: his first duck on the water. I thought it would

1101
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: be good for him to take this opportunity of ample

1102
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: shooting to learn how to do some wing shooting because

1103
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: later in the year ducks aren't gonna do this anymore. Yeah,

1104
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: and he shot plenty of pigeons out of the air,

1105
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: so he's got some wings, street pigeons, clay pigeons. I'm like, take, like,

1106
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: there's birds flying, Let's take the opportunity in a stress

1107
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: free environment, you being the only gun in the blind

1108
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: to do some wing shooting. Anyhow, eventually I look and

1109
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: here comes four Canadas and you know, like just they're

1110
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: flying so slow that it looks like they couldn't stay

1111
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: in the air, and they're coming at us, you know,

1112
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: and like later to season be like, well, surely they'll

1113
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: the dec aways all flair him, or they'll lift up high.

1114
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: And they keep coming and I'm looking at like coming

1115
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,479
Speaker 1: and coming, and I'm like, oh my god, he's gonna

1116
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: get like the world's like, you know, twenty five yards

1117
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: off the deck, like flying unbelievably slowly directly over our

1118
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: head and uh, he pulls up boom, just drops one.

1119
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: I said, hold, I said, holding out from his bill

1120
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: right when you shoot, and he boom, just drops one.

1121
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: And I was stunned. He wasn't even kind of stunned,

1122
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: but I was totally stunned. And then he shoots again

1123
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: and he's like, I got that other one, and I'm

1124
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just you know, I never listen

1125
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: to anything he says, so I didn't believe him that

1126
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: he got the other one. And that's just in one

1127
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: of her now at the other and we got the

1128
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 1: goose and took pictures and had all kinds of good times.

1129
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: He keeps talking about getting the other one, getting the

1130
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: other one, and I'm like, where is it, you know, geese.

1131
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: It's like a big pond out in front. There's no

1132
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: goose laying on it. And we get all done hunting

1133
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: and we go over and he's still talking about it.

1134
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 1: We go there and there's that goose running away, jumped

1135
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: up in the bushes, and we're gonna start listening to

1136
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: him because one day we're doing some we're catching some

1137
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: beavers for a guy friend of ours, and we walk

1138
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: out of our friends place and my kids like there's

1139
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: a coyote and then looking out seeing any Kyle and

1140
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, Jimmie, come on, caught that crap out. He

1141
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: turns around like there's a weasel, and I'm like, James,

1142
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: listen man that look. I was like, oh, there's a weasel. No,

1143
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: I instinctively don't believe them. I don't know what it is.

1144
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 1: He's seeing stuff you're not you're you're maybe you're you're

1145
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: visual acuity is fading. That absolutely is man. So yet

1146
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: last night we took his water fowl and we cut

1147
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: up one of the geese. So we caught up two

1148
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: brass and we're brining it for marinating it for jerky.

1149
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: We took the legs of all the geese and the

1150
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: legs of all the duck and we're curing that for Confie.

1151
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: And then he wants to save the rest just for

1152
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: regular dinner eating. So he's kind of working all those projects.

1153
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: He's measuring out all his stuff. Nice, yeah, acting very irritated,

1154
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: irritated about what they don't want to do. The work part. Oh,

1155
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't know. He's a trigger man now, trigger man.

1156
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: He's like he's like a gun writer. Trigger man. What

1157
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:28,959
Speaker 1: about just general uh, like gutting and measuring, like dry

1158
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: spice is not his thing? Yeah, not his thing. Did

1159
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: you guys pluck you know what? We started to pluck him,

1160
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: but it's so early in the year, like you can't

1161
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: barely tell. You know, this early in the year, you

1162
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: can't barely tell a green head. Yeah, um, because you know,

1163
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: they just molted and we started to pluck them. One

1164
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: just thin, it's just skin, very little fat. And then

1165
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: the geese were okay, but the ducks are very little

1166
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: fat and all that pin feather just it wasn't happening.

1167
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: We had to just pull we just we just pulled him. Yep,

1168
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: skinned him. I think you gotta wait a little bit.

1169
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: It's like canna last. They hunt ducks so early, you

1170
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: know up there, the ducks are all just like brown ducks.

1171
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: It's so hard to tell what the hell is going on.

1172
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: M Are these two? You think these are just resident birds?

1173
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: You guys are hunting for sure? Yeah, they're not mine,

1174
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: for sure. I wouldn't be surprised. A lot of these birds.

1175
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: Some of these birds hatched out of the egg on

1176
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: the very hatched out of an egg on the very

1177
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: place of your home. So Brody issue report about your

1178
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: bear hunting, your bear hunting adventures. It was good. It

1179
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: was super short. Yeah, I was like, you sent me

1180
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,479
Speaker 1: a picture of bearing. I'm like, Bahamas, he's still at home. Yeah.

1181
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: I drove from I left Bozeman at like, I don't know,

1182
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning. So it's you know, twelve eleven,

1183
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: twelve hours to get to where I was hunting. Droll

1184
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: to collar Yep, Colorado. Hauled wolf down there, turned it

1185
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: loose probably yep. Exactly a great big one um wolf.

1186
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: But Canadianadian super Bowl they're already there. They're having pups

1187
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: in Colorado. Anyway. Um. Yeah, I got to where I

1188
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: was gonna camp, set up camp. It's about six in

1189
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,959
Speaker 1: the evening by that point. Hiked up to a little

1190
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: spring fed water hole that was probably like got up

1191
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: there at like seven seven. Yeah, only taken a nap

1192
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: by now. I don't mind driving usually I don't mind it.

1193
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: Um and and it's like it was good to get

1194
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: out and hike after being that truck you know. Um anyway,

1195
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: sat down I was gonna try filming it. And before

1196
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: I could even get the little DSLR out um, I

1197
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: saw and three cubs rolled in and they messed around

1198
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: for ten minutes or so, and then she started getting

1199
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: real nervous, and I had when you say messed around,

1200
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: like the cubs were like fighting and playing in the

1201
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: pond and she was drinking water. They're just like chilled out,

1202
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: you know. Just it was cool. It was on the

1203
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: shady side of the mountains, so I think they're just

1204
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: in no rush, you know, to enjoy themselves. So that

1205
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: was fun watching them. But then she got all nervous

1206
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: and started huffing at her cubs and one cub ran

1207
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: up like took off. That was I guess the smart one,

1208
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: and the other two lingered and she pushed him up

1209
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: into the timber, and the wind was in my face,

1210
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: so I was like, man, there might be a boar

1211
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: coming in. And sure enough, like a minute later, a

1212
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: big jet black boar came in and I shot him.

1213
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: Was that boar up wind of her? Yes, m yeah.

1214
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: The wind was kind of for me, it was quartering

1215
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: left or right, so she was kind of The pond

1216
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: is at the base of this hill, so that wind

1217
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 1: was hitting the pond and then going up and he

1218
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: came from up above her. But man, she did not

1219
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: want to mess around with that boar because she had

1220
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: young cubs, like the little teeny puppy sized cubs. And yeah,

1221
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: that was my hunt. And that's that's the three jars

1222
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: of barre oil oil you gave me? How many jars

1223
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: you end up with? How he gave me a little

1224
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: teeny jars? I ended up? Yeah, half court jars. Um.

1225
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: I ended up with like three and a half gallons total. Yeah,

1226
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna gallons quarts total? I think, does it make

1227
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: you happier? Sad that I gave one of those? My

1228
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: friend Laura happy? You know what I did? I took

1229
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: beats out of the garden and um and carrots out

1230
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: of the garden and and roasted them in that bear

1231
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: grease the same way you put olive oil on him.

1232
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: Put that bear grease on. It's clean, It's like it's

1233
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, I've been doing everything like that potatoes in

1234
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: the oven, said, just put some bargrease on it. Wasn't

1235
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: really happy with that bargheras made. Apparently not I can

1236
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: redistribute that well, Um no, I got plenty of it

1237
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: to share. We couldn't. I couldn't go through all that stuff.

1238
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: Has anybody done cookies? Yet that's what I was just

1239
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: gonna say. I've done. I've done puff pastry with it

1240
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah, I haven't done any baking. I

1241
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: don't like to bake, though, I kind of quit. It's

1242
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: kind of a long process, but it's easy. I think

1243
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: what Joannice was talking about is if you get it

1244
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: too hot, or if you, like you said, go too

1245
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: long on those cracklings, because you want to squeeze like

1246
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: every bit of fat out of those things. And I

1247
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: think you've got to give up at some point when

1248
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: you're rendering it. Well, you know what people do? What

1249
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: I wonder I shouldn't say what people do. I know

1250
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: that you put a candy thermometer in there. I know.

1251
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: I've read processes for doing it where you actually do

1252
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: it in your oven so you have a better grip

1253
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: on the town. But you need to have oven that's

1254
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: reliable at low town. And I think it might but

1255
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: have heard people say, like, set the oven and put

1256
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: it in there, but with a candy thermometer, because then

1257
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: you can go for hours and hours and hours and

1258
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: not spike and not have temperature spikes. Yeah, but I've

1259
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: tried that, but I don't know. I haven't really calibrated it.

1260
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: But I don't know that ovens do a great job

1261
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: of like holding. I don't know if they do a

1262
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: great job of holding a low attempt like one seventy,

1263
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: but never messed with it. Um. I think probably if

1264
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: you ground it up, it might render out a little

1265
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: better because I just cubed it. You know. That's a

1266
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: good idea. Grind it and render it. You'd have to

1267
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: do it when that stuff's real cold, because it has

1268
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: like a low melting point. Like when I was skinning

1269
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: that bear. It was probably I don't know, it's in

1270
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: the seventies. It was hot and like that stuff melting

1271
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 1: at yeah, yeah, you know what. It would be a

1272
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: good idea. Man, take that snake oil here, do a

1273
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: taste test, put it in a little jar and right

1274
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: air oil on it. Then give it to someone and

1275
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: then later be like, hey, man, how'd you like to

1276
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: have bar oil? They'll send it to Clay Newcomb. See

1277
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: if they're like, that was the best ship I've ever

1278
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: eaten my entire life. Then well know, and my joints

1279
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: don't hurt anymore. My rheumatism cleared right up. See Osborne

1280
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 1: Russell suffers horrible rheumatism. Did he use snake oil? No,

1281
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: because but they don't have waiters, the trapping, oh, the

1282
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: end of the winter, trapping in spring, no waiters. So

1283
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 1: he would talk about in the cold weather, just the

1284
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: horrible ache was spending all those years in the water

1285
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: with no just getting used to being I bet your

1286
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 1: plenty of them didn't cheeze tough, tough dudes. So what

1287
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: else about your Is it bear meat? Good? Yeah? Man,

1288
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: it's great. You know there's probably eating those acorns down there,

1289
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: he had. I think you had just switched to him

1290
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: the berries had It was a drought down in Colorado

1291
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: so that it was like right at the tail end

1292
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: of berry season, and they're all dried up, most of them.

1293
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: And you know when oftentimes when not not that I

1294
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: have a bunch of experienced shooting bears, but they'll often

1295
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: let out a little turd when you shoot them. And

1296
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: his was that pasty, creamy kind of tan acorn poop.

1297
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: So he's not familiar with because I don't spend a

1298
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: lot of time in the acorn areas. I think that's

1299
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: why the bears get big in Colorado, man, because berries,

1300
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: And then they switched to those acorns and then if

1301
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: they're lucky, they find a carcass or two gambles open. Yeah,

1302
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: oak brush, yeah, huh. I killed a deer and Tuskigee

1303
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: National Forest in Alabama one time. Um My brother was

1304
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: going to grad school down in Auburn and he's discovered

1305
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: like the great deer hunting down there. And one time

1306
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: he was getting like five deer year down there, and

1307
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 1: we one time, I'll a greyhound bus from Montana to

1308
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: Alabama the hunt deer and we all got a buck.

1309
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: We're there for like I don't know, maybe a week

1310
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: Christmas break, and we all killed a buck on Tuskegee

1311
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: National Forest. I remember sitting up in a magnol your

1312
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: tree hunting deer. But anyways, shot a buck and pulled

1313
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: the stomach out. It was like a giant marble bag.

1314
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: It was just full of like he hadn't even chewed

1315
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: and swallowed. Like I almost killed a dog on that trip,

1316
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: on accident, not almost. I got down and got ready.

1317
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: We're like walking along. I'm looking down a power cut

1318
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, there's a deer. It was a great dane.

1319
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: Like what are the chances of that? Man? Yeah? The

1320
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: question I have is did you carry a gun on

1321
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: the Greyhound with like? Yeah, And I was so paranoid, man,

1322
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: I took it apart. I did that twice, super paranoid,

1323
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: took it apart and put it in a duffel bag.

1324
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: I bet you couldn't get away with that these days.

1325
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: A very paranoid, very very paranoid. But it worked out,

1326
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm telling a lie. I took my

1327
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: shotgun on the Greyhound to hunt ducks when we hunted deer.

1328
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: I was lying. I didn't do that. I didn't bring heap.

1329
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: I must used Danny. I don't know what it was.

1330
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: I took a shotgun when we the first time he

1331
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: went down there to hunt, or maybe it's a second time.

1332
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: One time I went down there to hunt ducks. One

1333
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: time I went down to hunt deer. I took a shotguns.

1334
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: Like two and a half day greyhound ride. We're seeing that?

1335
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: Ever happened to me? Yeah, it sounds like it, Taylor,

1336
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: probably just right about four or five six songs. Yeah,

1337
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm hearing some good stuff. You gotta dip in now,

1338
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if we I guess you know

1339
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: you got one in there now? Yeah? You ever seeing

1340
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 1: songs about dipping. No, no, no, I'll leave that to

1341
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: the uh everybody else. You should write a song called

1342
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: full stadium. Full stadium? What's that mean? It's when you

1343
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: put dip on your upper end bottom lip. We call

1344
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: that a hug. Not like that? Better all R Yeah,

1345
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: Now regale us with stories from the Phelps Woods. Oh um, Yeah,

1346
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: I had a great hunt. It's interesting we uh you know,

1347
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: we got invited to a hunt a friend of ours

1348
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: private ranch. Uh for me, get how many thousands of acres?

1349
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: But there's a couple of thousand at least there to

1350
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: hunt and uh, my goals since I was going to

1351
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: hunt with at least yeah, my goal since I was

1352
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: going to hunt with Jason Phelps, who manufactures game calls

1353
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: and started with ELK calls. It's like, you know, like

1354
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 1: knows a lot about calling. ELK was who was guy

1355
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: on the planet. Yeah. I like him like bettered seth. Yeah,

1356
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: and I tell you you'll like him even more. Actually

1357
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: spend a week in hunting camp with him. Yeah, because

1358
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: I got to know him. You know, it's nice. He

1359
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: actually offered. I told him that you and I were

1360
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: holding on to some wyoming ELK points and he said, well,

1361
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: I think you guys have plenty of points to draw

1362
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 1: where I would like to take you and call for

1363
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: you next fall. Seriously, he seriously doesn't he want to

1364
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: tag himself. He just come and call. You're kidding me, not.

1365
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: I gotta ask, because you're you're usually on the other

1366
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: end of the calling thing. I gotta I gotta know.

1367
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 1: He's even better. He's even better than Yanni. Oh no, no, no,

1368
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying Joannice is usually one due in the calling

1369
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: because he's Johnny's better than everybody else. I'm saying everybody

1370
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: else felt is better. And I want to know what

1371
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: it was like. It was wonderful just out there in

1372
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: my boat and my hand and the arrow knocked and uh,

1373
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: I was telling this someone else the I think it

1374
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: was the first bowl. Well, he called in a spike,

1375
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: and you know, spikes come in. You can't shoot spikes

1376
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: in Colorado, and I think the whole state there's I

1377
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: think there might be a couple of places where you can. Colorado.

1378
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: They gotta have four points on one antler or a

1379
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: five inch brow time to be legal. So usually when

1380
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: a spike comes in, you know, everybody kind of like

1381
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: it's like whatever, we'll mess with him for a few

1382
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: minutes whatever. So but the first branch chandler bull that

1383
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: he called it was a six point and we kind

1384
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: of a hasty set up. I didn't get hidden as

1385
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: nut as much as I would like me, because all

1386
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden it was just like, really, we're we

1387
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: got in tight and he was right there because you're

1388
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 1: hearing him, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was bugling, and we

1389
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 1: we kind of ran in there. He was bugling the

1390
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: bulls responding to you or he was just bugling, because

1391
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: he's a little bit of both, but definitely responding to us.

1392
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: You know, we were locating him, so hustling there, we

1393
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: crossed kind of a draw holler, kind of a feature

1394
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: on the top of this big ridge, and um crept

1395
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: up through some kind of not super dance, but some dance.

1396
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: We were in open aspens and we had to go

1397
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: through some semi dance fur trees, and we popped up

1398
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: on a little bench, nice beautiful meadow, and you could

1399
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: tell it's kind of like a spot where you'd see

1400
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: some elk, you know, feed and doing their thing, and

1401
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: he's bugling on the far side of it, maybe at

1402
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: a hundred yards maybe and we really quickly are like,

1403
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: all right, let's treat that treat that tree. And I

1404
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: should have gone the tree number one, but it just

1405
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: didn't look big enough, and I went with tree number two,

1406
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: which had like four or five trees around it. I

1407
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: just would have been, you know, hindsight, but I would

1408
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: have been ten yards closer, and I maybe would have

1409
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: had this other, um like older type feature that would

1410
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: have blocked his view from me, because he ended up

1411
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: picking me out. But basically, as soon as I set

1412
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 1: up and you sat in front of the tree, and

1413
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 1: as soon as I set up, I see some cows

1414
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: feeding off to my left, like within bow range. And

1415
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: then I look up to the right, kind of up

1416
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 1: this meadow off the ridge, and I see more cows

1417
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: popping out of the woods feeding and this bold hugle,

1418
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: and so we're like in the circle right like it's

1419
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Well, what's cool is that Jason is like,

1420
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, fifteen feet off to my right, just

1421
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: kind of off the edge of them, you know, just

1422
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: the terrain drops off, and he's kind of tucked down

1423
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: to the base of a tree and he's like sitting

1424
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: there calling but then talking to me about like what

1425
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: the bulls doing, what he's doing to like manipulate the

1426
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 1: bull and sort of like narrating the thing, and the

1427
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: bull is doing exactly what Jason says he's gonna do.

1428
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, this dude really knows what's up. Like

1429
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: he's not at all like shaking up by the situation.

1430
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: He's just very much methodically like looking at it, analyzing

1431
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: and making moves and making sounds and you know, making

1432
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: he's able to predict, so it's not it's not like

1433
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: just explaining what happened as though you know what you're talking. Yeah,

1434
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: well he's like trying things and he's like, no, that

1435
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: didn't seem to work, or he didn't bugle back at

1436
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: that sound, or he did, or that one made him start,

1437
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, walking, because pretty soon we could see you know,

1438
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: the antlers coming from the far side, and uh yeah,

1439
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is gonna work out pretty good

1440
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: for me. But that one didn't because I wasn't covered

1441
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: up enough and at like six year seventy yards, the

1442
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: bull eyeballed me and didn't spook, but just turned nine

1443
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: degrees and kind of walked out of the meadow and

1444
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: went back, you know, as soon as he goes out

1445
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: of sight, he started bugling again. Didn't he didn't like it,

1446
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: so we kept chasing them. Um but yeah, so we

1447
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: basically chase that heard. There was I don't know, maybe

1448
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: three or four bulls bugle in chase until dark. Never

1449
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 1: got on him again. Uh. Founder a sweet camp site,

1450
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: just a really nice flattened bench on this big ridge

1451
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: we were on. It's interesting, one of the stillest nights

1452
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: I've ever spent in the woods. I mean just like

1453
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: not not once. You know how in the middle of

1454
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 1: night you always seem to wake up and you feel

1455
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: that cold breeze and it wakes you up and you

1456
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: gotta roll over and cover it up. I mean, just

1457
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 1: none of it. There was no thermal even just like

1458
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: still like I like, we were even like bust not

1459
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: our win checkers and you just puff it and it

1460
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: would just just sit there. And the old night was

1461
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, so in the morning we get

1462
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: up and uh, we figured we'd be hearing them from camp.

1463
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: Never heard a bugle all night. Started to get a

1464
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 1: little nervous, and then the morning we walk maybe I

1465
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: don't know two or three hundred yards and start doing

1466
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: location bugles and a bully answered us, and then we

1467
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: pretty immediately, pretty much immediately got right back into the herd.

1468
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: Jason called one in and he came behind again one

1469
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 1: of these sort of like older type thickets. They really

1470
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: love rubbing these, those older thickets. You know what I'm

1471
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: talking about. You don't see a lot of them old. Yeah.

1472
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: I sent it to my wife and she texted back

1473
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: that the resident botany stuff, and uh, they love rubbing them,

1474
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: but you don't see a lot of them there. But

1475
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 1: in like the moist little draw like a seat almost

1476
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: where there's a little more moisture. You always see these things.

1477
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 1: And he got a reddish inside to it, um orange

1478
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: reddish maybe you mean like when he's rubbing it, like

1479
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: when you get to the cambium layer, it's kind of

1480
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 1: it's like an ochre e color. Yeah. So his first

1481
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: all kind of comes in on the far side of

1482
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: one of these like masses. He was close, he's you know,

1483
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: ten yards or less. But as he's coming around behind it,

1484
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: you know, he sees something, you know, me at full

1485
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: draw sort of shake and probably and just never quite

1486
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: clears enough for me to let loose an arrow had

1487
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: some stuff covering up your shoulder and so, uh, we

1488
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: knew where they were heading to bed, or we thought

1489
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: we did, so we basically at that point we could

1490
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: hear bulls moving in that direction, so we kind of

1491
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: backed out of there, did a loop behind them. We're

1492
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: kind of coming up a ridge where it's not really

1493
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: so we're on a big ridge and sort of where

1494
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: the ridge drops off into steep, dark timber where we

1495
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: thought they had bed. We're running up that edge and

1496
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 1: trying to cut them off before they get into the timber,

1497
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, we get in pretty tight. We

1498
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: actually think that they probably heard us. You know, we

1499
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: have four people you know, pushing it to get in there.

1500
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 1: The bull that I shot probably heard us coming and

1501
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: probably thought, oh, that's you know, more elk joining this,

1502
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: you know group that we're in. So we got in

1503
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: there again under a hundred yards Jason bield a couple

1504
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: of times, and you could just see this bull start

1505
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: walking down and he might have been ten yards off

1506
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: this edge that I keep referencing, and he's threws sort

1507
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: of like an alleyway through the woods that he was

1508
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: coming down, and uh, he stops it maybe like forty

1509
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,759
Speaker 1: and I can't see him and Jason's like he's at forty.

1510
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I know he's somewhere in there, but

1511
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't have a lane. And then a few seconds

1512
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 1: later he's like, okay, he's walking again, you know, So

1513
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: I drew then and then I could see him pop out.

1514
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: He's walking kind of slightly quarter in two. And then

1515
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: it's amazing how those animals like when you call, they't

1516
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 1: know what tree that call came from, Like they know

1517
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: where you're standing, because he's walking, walking, and kind of

1518
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: looking down the alleyway, and then right in this little

1519
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,520
Speaker 1: gap that we're standing in looking out into the alleyway,

1520
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: it's like as soon as he's parallel with that, he

1521
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: turns to look right in there. It's like that's where

1522
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: that bulls should be that I heard buglin right, So

1523
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: he turns right in there, and uh, you know, up

1524
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: until a couple of days prior to that, I probably

1525
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,719
Speaker 1: never would have taken a frontal shot on an elk,

1526
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: meaning like shooting him straight in his chest. You know.

1527
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: I was always gonna wait for broadside or quarter in

1528
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: a way. And Jason told me that he killed last

1529
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: four out of five of his bulls taking that shot,

1530
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: and uh, so this bulls rolls in it like we

1531
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: think it's fifteen or sixteen yards, and right at the

1532
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: end he pretty much turned, so he's straight on with

1533
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: me at all. There's no quartering anymore at all. And

1534
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, well, let's be a good opportunity

1535
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: to try this, and so I let loose. Jason hadn't

1536
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 1: even told me. You know it basically aim right where

1537
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: the color changes, where that main ends, and sort of

1538
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 1: that brisket starts, and that arrow disappeared inside of him,

1539
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: and before he spun, you know, you could see the

1540
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: blood spurting out. Jason bugles once and then right when

1541
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 1: his bugle ends, you just hear this loud crash which

1542
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: was him running into an aspen and then kind of

1543
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: crashing across these fallen logs that were falling aspen logs

1544
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: that were on the ground. And uh, I'm guessing he

1545
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 1: was dead in three to five seconds. Really yeah, I mean,

1546
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: just so so fast? How do we just stepped out

1547
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: into that alleyway that I described that he walked down.

1548
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: We would have seen him. He went seventy yards from

1549
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: where I shot him. We could have seen him piled up.

1550
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 1: But you know, you never know, and so we just said,

1551
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just PLoP down right here. We'll

1552
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 1: give it forty five minutes and then we'll go. Look.

1553
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, we could have just stopped out there and

1554
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: walked right up to him. I mean he was dead instantly. Nice. Yeah,

1555
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 1: So um, film the whole damn thing. Oh yeah, some great,

1556
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 1: great footage that. Yeah, we got good footage. So yeah,

1557
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: we probably called in. I don't know Jason, but I

1558
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: think called in including that spike four or five bowls

1559
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: for me, and then I called in one for him.

1560
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: And the remaining two days that we had got him close,

1561
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: but sixteen yards he just wouldn't step out from behind us.

1562
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 1: He was at full draw for a long time, two

1563
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: or three to the point where Jason had to let

1564
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: down because he was a full draw for so long.

1565
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: So he'll take us, he'll he'll go and and uh,

1566
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: if we use our wyoming points, he'll go with us.

1567
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: That'd be fun, man, very fun. No, it's great, great

1568
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,560
Speaker 1: hunting with him. He's he's a real pro. Um. We

1569
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: had a blast. What do you think about all that? Taylor?

1570
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,759
Speaker 1: Recall I heard one thing that perked my hair ears

1571
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: up Jericho Bush steep, dark timber that somewhere in there.

1572
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a song. This in there somewhere.

1573
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: All Right, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna rip out

1574
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: you got anything you gotta add, then you're gonna rip

1575
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: out your tune for us. Oh yeah, yeah, you're gonna add.

1576
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: I've somebody I've been. I've always grew up more fishing,

1577
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: just because that's what my dad and I did. I've

1578
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: been hunting twice, uh, and I'd love to do some

1579
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: more of it. Just never had the opportunity to always

1580
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: uh just fishing, you know. Um always seemed to be

1581
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: I never had any lessons in it, you know what

1582
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean. But I've had two people take me out.

1583
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 1: I seem to like the more moving around, like we

1584
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: did some rabbit hunting, you know, Yeah, sitting in the

1585
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: stand before. I definitely the first time I went fell

1586
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: asleep and knocked my head on the front thing, and

1587
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah that moving around a little bit. Uh.

1588
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 1: You live in Nashville, Yeah, yeah, I been there two

1589
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: years now, so it's been a it's been a great

1590
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: two years. Is it a good Is that a good

1591
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: move for aspiring musicians? Uh, that's the wild thing, man.

1592
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 1: It's all I feel like what I'm doing with my

1593
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: music is very organic because a lot of people they

1594
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: want to be, you know, the next this or that,

1595
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 1: and they like, oh, you gotta move to Nashville. Make it.

1596
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 1: It's like, oh you always hear like that song on

1597
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: the ride? Yeah, yeah, it's good to man, David Encore, right, yeah,

1598
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: and uh it's about going to Nashville. That's like one

1599
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: of those things. I never moved there until I had

1600
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: my first publishing deal. So I played in sang my

1601
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: first ever gig January and had a publishing deal with

1602
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: a major company that September, and still didn't even move there,

1603
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: and uh, you know it funded me. I stayed back

1604
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: in South Carolina to get this bad boy right here.

1605
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: I always wanted to. I thought you had some guitar.

1606
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: It was in a burning house or something. Yeah, yeah,

1607
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: for sure. Um that's what the wild story is. When

1608
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: I was about X I, I got drum set. My dad,

1609
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: he's a carpenter, and he spent three years of his

1610
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 1: off time building this two story log cabin. We only

1611
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: got to live in for a few months, and uh,

1612
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: let me know, on the sad part hits. Yeah, oh yeah,

1613
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: it's about to hit. I do a little and uh

1614
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: moods setting. And so one day I was at school

1615
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: and uh, the house caught on fire and it burned

1616
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: everything we had, and the male truck came up with

1617
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: my first guitar and he's like, I almost didn't bring

1618
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: this up, but I figured somebody needed it, and that's

1619
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 1: all I had. And as they say, the rest is history.

1620
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: What do you think of that accompaniment? That's good? It's

1621
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: like and when you're watching one of those short films

1622
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 1: and it gets to like a sad part. And when

1623
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: I got the diagnosis and the music will be like

1624
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 1: in the arms of the Angel when the doctor called

1625
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 1: with the diagnosis, our hearts just sank like that, right there, Steve. Okay,

1626
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 1: so you're gonna play us some newso yeah, yeah yeah.

1627
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: Oh So do you sell music to other music? Have

1628
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 1: you sold a song to another musician? I know, but

1629
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: a lot of that I have the market too with

1630
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: the publishing deal. So a lot of people in my field,

1631
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 1: you know, they I'm more of an artist side of things,

1632
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: So I write all my own stuff and uh, which

1633
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 1: that's not something you look to do. Yeah, just because Um,

1634
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so it's one of those things

1635
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: that the way my mind works and how I write

1636
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 1: and how I play is so not setting me apart

1637
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,719
Speaker 1: in difference. It's just so different. It's not necessarily what selling.

1638
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, so like somebody let myself. Um, you know,

1639
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 1: they go in and they write, you know, at least

1640
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 1: two times a week, if not more, and uh, you

1641
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 1: know they might pitch that to Jason Audine and get

1642
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: something like that. But uh, you know, I just I

1643
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: love language too much play on words for that to

1644
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: be you know, coming through the radio. But I mean

1645
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: the peers I worked with, you know, Keith Urban songs

1646
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: and Buddy Dave Panish, he was the first person I

1647
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: ever co wrote a song with. And uh he's written

1648
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, American Ride the Key, Uh, all kinds of stuff,

1649
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: Keith Urban stuff. And it's wild because like my mom

1650
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 1: grew up loving Keith Urban's like early stuff. And now

1651
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:10,600
Speaker 1: to see you know, we'll play a gig at the

1652
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: Blueberry Cafe, which is pretty special place in Nashville, and

1653
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 1: she gets to see the people, the stories behind and

1654
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: meet them and it's like, at least I'm making it

1655
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: a little bit proud you know what I mean. Good? Yeah, yeah,

1656
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 1: now stay close to that mike. Yeah, well you'll dig

1657
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 1: this one. So this one, this tune tune, new brand,

1658
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 1: new tune. So y'all heard it first. This one ain't

1659
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: even that's it's gonna be on the new record. I

1660
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: know they probably don't let me playing stuff that I

1661
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 1: ain't out, but um, y'all get to y'all get to

1662
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: hear this, and first it's a good one. It's called

1663
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: black Powder Soul. Black Powder Soul, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do.

1664
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: Women throw themselves at you when they see in the airport. Um,

1665
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,560
Speaker 1: I usually have a big Pelican case, like from like,

1666
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 1: because this nice guitar. You don't just be slinging this,

1667
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, pretty easy. So people like what is that

1668
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: in that case? And they always asking when I walk through.

1669
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: People think it's like a a K forty seven or something.

1670
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: So once I gets through, when I get through, they're like,

1671
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 1: what is that? And I always like, it's my samurai sword,

1672
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, and just throws people off. It's I try

1673
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: to be dry humor and it's sometimes I just don't connect.

1674
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: But anyway, here's this. It's a new tune called black

1675
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 1: Powder sat m wool soldier. I'm a lawless man. Don't

1676
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: play pook since that stint spooke cane over some boomling

1677
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: moon shine my bathtub gin. That's why I'm I. Oh

1678
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 1: over under is my only friend. Oh you black powder,

1679
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: black powder soap. I got dark clouds above me. Oh yeah,

1680
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 1: the fire is blue, my heartest botten in my blood

1681
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 1: drowns cold. I got a black pounder, black powder sold

1682
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:52,520
Speaker 1: m Oh you can run them tables, you can't outrun

1683
01:33:52,880 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: them cowboys and hustlers holding a steel wheel hand. The

1684
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 1: best blood money is what keeps you fit when there

1685
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:17,679
Speaker 1: rain run. He stole with black powder, black powder soup,

1686
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 1: got dark clouds above me in the fire blue, my

1687
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 1: heartiest fod my blood brown's cool. I gotta black powder,

1688
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 1: black pounder, soup, black powder so right here, right here

1689
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: in the ticker. Loved it great again? Sounds awesome? Oh no,

1690
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: it's great. That's my favorite song. Man. You I like

1691
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: the over undertouch. That's like insider people don't because most

1692
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 1: people be like double barrel people people are. That's this

1693
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: kind of interesting point is people are always curious about

1694
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: the song where you know? Is it the words of

1695
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: the you know? And it's just it's a hard thing

1696
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 1: to explain. Like that tune itself took three days to write.

1697
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: And so like the first two verses, I keep give

1698
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 1: you a little insight on it. It might help with

1699
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: that process because any anytime somebody like a songwriter tries

1700
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: to explain it, you know, it's this. It's it's one

1701
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: of those things like how can you explain something that

1702
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 1: has you know, infinity possibilities down to the letter? You know?

1703
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, the first I started with the

1704
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 1: line I'm a warless soldier, I'm a lawless man. You

1705
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 1: know what does that put in your head? You know,

1706
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: like this guy he ain't seen the war, but he's

1707
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: a lawless man. He's like he's he's out here in

1708
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Bozeman running around shooting something, you know what I mean?

1709
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:42,640
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, just kind of uh the course of

1710
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 1: that black powder soul, you know, that kind of tied

1711
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 1: everything up of this. Um, I don't know. I just

1712
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 1: love this kind of Western vibe of you know, you

1713
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: get you get kind of like Western you know, Wills,

1714
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, something like that. And uh yeah, so like um,

1715
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 1: the over un or stuff. It's uh, I hadn't done

1716
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: a stint in Spokane. But damn, that's a good line,

1717
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, if you're writing a

1718
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: song and someone's got to do a stint somewhere else

1719
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: over my bathtub gin, you know what I mean, That's

1720
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: that's cool. Yeah. Well thanks man, Yeah, man, thank you

1721
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:17,680
Speaker 1: all for having me. Wish you the best luck of

1722
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 1: your career. Thank you. Yeah, I heard, I heard that

1723
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna become really famous. Man. I hope we can

1724
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 1: make your money and get a little place over here

1725
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: in uh Paradise Valley. And yeah, you have someone, uh,

1726
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 1: you have a music business person who you can't he

1727
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: really uh is enthusiastic about your talent. Man, It's all

1728
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 1: worked out. That's why I say it's down to the

1729
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 1: tea of doc. I'm I'm I'm made to do this,

1730
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 1: I believe because I would have never I thought I

1731
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: was gonna be a fishing guy the rest of my life.

1732
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 1: You know. And uh, the people I've met, you know,

1733
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 1: only idiots do that, right, Brody. Yes, the guy that

1734
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about, you know, we uh he met it like.

1735
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 1: I was playing one of my first places in Nashville

1736
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: and that night I met my manager. He was to

1737
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 1: this day him and uh got my publish until that night.

1738
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: The guy from the company, he stayed in the green

1739
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: room with us till four o'clock in the morning, listening

1740
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 1: to songs, and he was like, you know, telling me

1741
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. And I was like, yeah, man,

1742
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna ever see this guy again. And so

1743
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 1: I went back to working construction because that's what I

1744
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: did for I moved up there, and sure enough he

1745
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 1: called me and he's like, you know, we're gonna get

1746
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 1: you up here. And it's like, man, you know what

1747
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: I mean, hold you three? You got playtimes? Yeah, saith

1748
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: oldenough to be your daddy. Man. Everybody is yeah, well, yeah,

1749
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get to come see you live when live

1750
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: shows or a thing again. Definitely. I'll be like I

1751
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,759
Speaker 1: knew that some of a bit ya he was singing

1752
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 1: when he was singing intros and nowatrolls for y man,

1753
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 1: that's y'all stomp me for a minute, but now I

1754
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: get what y'all talking about. Yeah, that's great man. Best

1755
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: luck to you, Thanks for coming on the show, Thank

1756
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: you for having me. Thank you very much. Taylor McCall.

1757
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 1: How people are gonna find you? Taylor McAll. You can

1758
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: go on Taylor McCall dot com and we just uh

1759
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: we got the online store for if you want to

1760
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: get a t shirt and have something that's good. Um,

1761
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 1: we you can find me on Instagram, Taylor McCall music

1762
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: and everywhere else. But the tune you just read, the

1763
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 1: tune you just not you didn't read it. That's a

1764
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,879
Speaker 1: writer language. The tune you just played is not available,

1765
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 1: only available here if you like what you heard. There

1766
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: were recording the album in November, and it'll be out

1767
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:26,560
Speaker 1: here soon. So and that song will beyond that and

1768
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: where this version is better than that. Yeah, I was.

1769
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 1: Originally there was this tune Quartermaster, Um that's coming out

1770
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: and um, I was like, man, they gotta hear some

1771
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 1: black powder. So today Quartermaster is a great name for

1772
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 1: a song. Now it is. I wrote it as uh,

1773
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of this, um kind of this guy goes

1774
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 1: to war and it's the uh you know how usually

1775
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 1: the husband dies, you know, well he comes back from

1776
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: war and Quartermaster kind of you know, he wasn't a

1777
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: chopper gunner. You know, he was handing out sleeping bags

1778
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: and um, he come back and his his his wife died.

1779
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 1: So I was kind of hold up and on this

1780
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 1: lake in isolation, that's where I'd love to write. And

1781
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 1: this huge bookcase I was writing out and I picked

1782
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 1: up picked up a book and Tyler the book was

1783
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: Gentleman Swords and pistols. And that spiraled into like this

1784
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: whole song about that. And you know that's what writing

1785
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: songs is, you know what I mean to me, it's

1786
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: like taking that one thing and turning it into you know,

1787
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: like that story and just an imagination. I got a

1788
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: crazy brain. I guess that's great, man, keep it crazy.

1789
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, thanks a lot to them, a

1790
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 1: call check them out, uh by some starff from them,

1791
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: sweet hats, listen to music. The new album is called

1792
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: what uh nothing, I'm not sure yet. Yeah, you haven't

1793
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: named it. It's coming out, Yeah, it's coming out and

1794
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: includes black Powder song. Yeah, we got so many songs

1795
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 1: just whiittling down you know what I mean? Black Powder? Yeah,

1796
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: I might do some like back up on that. Hell

1797
01:39:50,360 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: yeah all right, guys, thanks a lot, say