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Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. Do you ever wonder that little bit of

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Speaker 1: The Car Doctor, I just want you to be open

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Speaker 1: very different than your perception in some cases. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Nan the Car Doctor,

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Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to

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Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics

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Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and

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Speaker 1: call in the garage to orders are open, but I

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Speaker 1: am here to take your calls at eight five five

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Speaker 1: six and now he running. Hey, welcome, start your engines

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Speaker 1: and let's get under the hood. And the car Doctor

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Speaker 1: here at eight five five zero nine nine zero zero

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Speaker 1: here to talk to you about your automotive problem. And

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Speaker 1: we're gonna dive right in because without the usual fan fair,

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Speaker 1: we've got Bob from Springfield, Illano. We held over from

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Speaker 1: a previous hour. If you're on an affiliate and you're

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Speaker 1: just new to that well, you know, we've got to

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Speaker 1: We don't normally do this, but this was a good

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Speaker 1: on to Bob. We didn't want to rush him at

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Speaker 1: the last hour. So Officer Bob, are you still there, sir?

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Speaker 1: We were. We were talking about your intake uh gasket

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Speaker 1: for everyone just tuning in Crown Victoria two thousand six.

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Speaker 1: Crown vic replaced the intake and the intakes leaking, and

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Speaker 1: my comments were, you know where's the lead coming from?

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Speaker 1: And one of the things you could do here is

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Speaker 1: instead of running the engine and trying to look at it.

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Speaker 1: Nothing worse than trying to work on and look at

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Speaker 1: an engine when it's hot. Can we do this when

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Speaker 1: it's cold? So it might require you buying a pressure

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Speaker 1: as good as they could. And then they look at

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Speaker 1: you under that, under that big fancy lamp, and charge

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Speaker 1: of ten dollars for that test, and uh um, you

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Speaker 1: you know where it's leaking out using a black light

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Speaker 1: the intake, short of it being the wrong intake, a

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Speaker 1: If we think it's the ceiling surface of the head,

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Speaker 1: and I've done this on occasion, I will take some

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Speaker 1: r TV, but I will use perma texts the right stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's other things out there that work,

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Speaker 1: I will put a schmir all right. A definition of

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Speaker 1: And if you have an Orally Auto parts by you, uh,

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Speaker 1: Crown vic or the ram al right, sir, all right,

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Speaker 1: oh four Chevy Malibu and some questions about no starts

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Speaker 1: how can I help? All right, Ron, how you doing today?

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Speaker 1: Let's see every weekend? Thank you sir. What's going on? Well,

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Speaker 1: we've this is my sister's car I take care of

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Speaker 1: you're still there, sir, So we pulled over. We took

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Speaker 1: All right, you take good care, Allen, you take good care.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, how can I help? Well,

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Speaker 1: I got a problem whole five Dodge Grand Caravan THEE.

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Speaker 1: and that's fine, but you know you hear me talking

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00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: about things like the Launch scan tool and how Launch

427
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: is you know, manufacturer specific, and you know that's what

428
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 1: you're looking for. You're looking for someone with an up

429
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 1: to date scan tool like a Launch that will actually

430
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: be able to read the system and um, you know,

431
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: take it apart electronically per se on a scanner, and

432
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: then uh, you know, put it back together, you know

433
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: as the two was when they go to fix it.

434
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: Does that makes sense? Yes, thank you. You're very welcome, sir.

435
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: Good luck to you, and we wish you the best.

436
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: Let's pull over and take a pause. Five five zero

437
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: zero run a nay of the car doctor. We're coming

438
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: back right after this. Hey, welcome back, ran a name

439
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 1: of the car doctor rolling along here. Let's get over

440
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: and talk to Corey, Northern Minnesota, two thousand eleven, Dodge

441
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: Ram Corey. Welcome to the car doctor. How can I

442
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: help Hi? How are you? Um? I had recently had

443
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: on my on the Cummings. You have a in internal

444
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: um exhaust break on your turble a variable turbo charge

445
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: of de lay. Sure right, Well, anyway here about a

446
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 1: month and a half ago, two months it it stuck

447
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 1: open or stuck shut, So I didn't say it was

448
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: the exhaust break was stuck on. So I tore it

449
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: down and I went through the whole TURBLELL clean it up.

450
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: And I mean it wasn't set it up. It wasn't,

451
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't anything. And except where there was like a

452
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: piece that was behind the variable and I called whole

453
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: set and they said that that part does not belong

454
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: in there. Well, there's there's it's not possible that the

455
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: part went to the motor all the way around and

456
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: it was in there from factory, and that's what causes

457
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: to stay shot. So I put it all back together,

458
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: put it back on, and now I am throwing a

459
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: p O O A f code, which is uh right,

460
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: and it's it's a it's listed as a turbocharger fault

461
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 1: because it's not seeing it's it's not seeing proper boost

462
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: and so it's limiting. It's gonna actually it's it's actually

463
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: seeing an internal error the turbo. The turbocharger actuator sees

464
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: an internal error in the turbo charger itself because there's

465
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: what they call a smart device. They've got a controller

466
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: on that so it doesn't overboost um translate that into it.

467
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: They don't want to overboost and pay for engines under warranty.

468
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: So so now you've got a fault code after cleaning

469
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: it and taking this piece out, that's what you're saying

470
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: to me, right right. And then I'm wondering if the

471
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: actuators is the problem. But everywhere I take it to

472
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: is like, while you got to replace the turbo lads

473
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: four thousand dollar everything, I was like, well, I don't

474
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: want to do that, but I'm wondering if when I

475
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: took it off, if if that actually didn't get damaged. Um,

476
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: it's possible. I doubt it. Generally, the double O a

477
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: F turns into a turbo charger. UM. There, it's it's

478
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: a pretty short it's a pretty short trouble tree. As

479
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: I remember, it's UM engine not running? Do you have

480
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: the fault codes? Keion engine not running? Do you have

481
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: the fault codes? If you've got that fault fix it? UM,

482
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry if you have. If you have

483
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: a U O ten U O ten, they want you to,

484
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, go through some things um elsewhere. But if

485
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: that code is there by itself, they want you to

486
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: undo the turbo connector you know, any of the pins damage.

487
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: Is the harness intact that type of thing. And if

488
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: the answer to that is no, it comes down to

489
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: a turbo charger. UM, it's well, it is that because

490
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: there's a pretty big board on that actual etor and

491
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: like a computer board. And I didn't know if that

492
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: was causing the issue with it or not. Um, I

493
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: haven't seen that that computer board that's the smart device,

494
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: that's the What you're describing to me is sounds like

495
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about the actual wastegate device that's controlling the

496
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: turbo and that has a Yeah, that that has its

497
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: own separate set of faults as well. But to my knowledge,

498
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, generally the double O A F becomes a

499
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: turbo charger assembly and it doesn't care how much money

500
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: it is. It's it is what it is. How many

501
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: miles is how many miles are on this truck? I

502
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: got two k on to two hundred thousand. Yeah, okay,

503
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: but but I mean, like like all the working and

504
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: motions in that are are they They're clean? I mean

505
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: there's no they aren't sloppy. If everything's tight, even the

506
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: turbo charger yourself is tight, well, tolerance is real. Well,

507
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you this question. Then if

508
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: you consider sending the turbo charger out to someone to

509
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: have it inspected and rebuilt, because I'm sure not everybody's

510
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: you know, plunking fore grand down at the christ Or

511
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: store to buy one, right, you know, and and and

512
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: you know there's there's there's tolerances inside that turbot. You

513
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: can't measure unless you're a machinist, unless you do for

514
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: a living, which in this case you wouldn't have cold

515
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: me Um, you'd have the answer already. UM. So you

516
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: know at that point, maybe maybe the way to go

517
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: about this is, you know, because I feel your pain, brother, um,

518
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: but it's generally around the turbo. I would tell you

519
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: either the turbo has gotta be replaced or disassembled and

520
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: inspected and you know tested, uh, you know, and if

521
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: that costs you, I don't know, five hundred thousand dollars,

522
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: it's still not four all right, So you know that's

523
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: that's the way to go. The only other place I

524
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: would look Corey before I let you go is I

525
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: would just take it to your repair shop if they've

526
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: got the ability. And Chrysler doesn't make it easy for

527
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: an independent shop to do this. It's one of the

528
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: things I dislike about Chrysler in their vehicles. But I

529
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: would definitely have the ven run through the iceler system

530
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: to see if there are any software updates for this,

531
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: all right, and he and any software updates and bulletin

532
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: is pertaining to this. I'm not aware of any This

533
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: is usually clear cut bad turbo. But you know, I've

534
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: learned what I knew yesterday is out the door today,

535
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: So welcome to So now if I if I because

536
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: when I unplugged that, now that actually or my fault

537
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: cold went off and I just basically went back to stock.

538
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: I think it's what happened. So I don't know. I

539
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean you can you can't judge it

540
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 1: by that. You're you're you're modifying the conditions now all right,

541
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: you're you're you're disconnecting something and questioning why didn't what

542
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: you know? The turbo charger doesn't work anymore? Right? Right? Okay,

543
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: Well that's why I mean it's working. I mean I'm

544
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: only getting fifteen pounds of booth where I had thirty

545
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: two to thirty five before. I mean, it's a big difference.

546
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: And this is a stock system, right, this This is

547
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: a this is a factory system. You've got on this. No,

548
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: I tuned it, but it's a real light tune just

549
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: for mileage, because I do a lot of highway of miles.

550
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: So so let's back up a second. Now, you you've

551
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: got an aftermarket boost or an aftermarket software package on

552
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: top of the factory turbot charger. And actually, actually it

553
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: was it was re tuned by a Chrysler tuner, So

554
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: actually it's there. It was there tuner, and then I

555
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: went in and I had to throw it on the

556
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: scanner and that's what they came up. Okay, So yeah,

557
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: but where did he get the software from? Is it

558
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: Chrysler software? It's it's Chrysler proof software. It just happens

559
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: to be a Chrysler Tech running after market software. No,

560
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: I was it was Chrysler approved. Okay, Well he bought

561
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: the software from them, and then he actually just modifies

562
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of trucks and stuff like that, all right,

563
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: So what is he thinking? Is he just But that's

564
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: why I was just getting the second opinion. Yeah, I

565
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: you know that the software is a curve ball here,

566
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: all right. I wasn't expecting that one, all right. So

567
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: if it if it runs properly without the software in it,

568
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: all right, and it doesn't set the fault code, then

569
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: you know stock is stock. It's working as designed. So

570
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: now now you put the software in it, why does

571
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: it why does it Why does it set the fault code?

572
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: With the software in it, um, somebody, somebody that somebody

573
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: has to be responsible for writing that software. Somebody's got

574
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: to have an answer as to what the parameters were

575
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: the changed that now creates the fault, right, okay, all right,

576
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: So if if if you put this back to stock

577
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: condition and it runs fine all day long, every day,

578
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: two weeks straight, and the minute you put the modification

579
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: on it, then I don't see how mechanically the turbo

580
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: can be at fault. It's got to be in the software.

581
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: It's got to be in whatever you added to it.

582
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: You always go back to You always go back to

583
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: the last point of insanity, and you figure out where

584
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: you went and nuts. All right, all right, well you

585
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: know I just I mean, I miss that exhaustbreak because

586
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm running two u K on the original breaks right

587
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: because I use that. But anyway, thank you for your

588
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: help and time. You're welcome. Sorry, I hope I got

589
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: you in the right direction. Would you call me back

590
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: and let me know what ends up fixing this, Cory?

591
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: It sounds like an interesting problem, all right, You take

592
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: good care. If if I listen to the car doctor

593
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: likes a mystery just as good as the Hardy Boys

594
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: zero nine zero the car doctors cruising back right after this.

595
00:32:46,280 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 1: Don't go away, shout out and stop talking. That's right,

596
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: because I'm broadcasting on skulls. Hey ron in any of

597
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: the car doctor rolling along at zero zero zero quit

598
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: A couple of points going on here in car doctor world.

599
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: The folks at Raybestos, you know, we're we're always talking

600
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: about breaks and the changes to breaks, and I think

601
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: breaks are probably the most uh commonly changed part um,

602
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: not just in terms of replacing them on the vehicle,

603
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: but in terms of formulation. It seems that they're always

604
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: replacing and changing the formula of of breaks around these days,

605
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: and um, it's it's just interesting to watch. I think,

606
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: out of all the parts that I have a choice

607
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: of at the shop, um, breaks are probably at the

608
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: top of the list in terms of brand model, Who's what, where, when? How? Why? Uh?

609
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: Just always always changing right best. This has come out

610
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: with a new line of European brake pads, specifically for

611
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: European nameplates, and part of the solution is that it

612
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: will you know, help with not just friction area, but

613
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: there's a concern about dust and dust on wheels and

614
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: uh you know how that's affected but it's a special

615
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: formulation just for European nameplates, so you can you can

616
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: look forward to that because that's something that you know,

617
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: it's it's always changing, like I said, breaks or something

618
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: that we're always going through and UM, always having to

619
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: deal with down in the shop. So just be aware

620
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: of that. UM. One other point of contention, Tom, did

621
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: you did did you have a quick question about? Um?

622
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: You're shaking your head? Yes, now, well what I'm not

623
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: sure you're you're you're looking at me like you wanted something.

624
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: I no, okay, alright, just check. I'm just standing here

625
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: minding my own business, you know, counting the pain trips

626
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: here in the wall. Okay, is that what that is? Um? Okay,

627
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: So then right, okay, just checking making sure you're I

628
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: can sure you don't want to make you fall asleep.

629
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: We've got two minutes to go here. Um. And then

630
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: the other thing I want to talk about real quick

631
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: was I want to talk about Berryman all right, carbon

632
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: and I guess I should I should back out of

633
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: it and do it this way. So we had a

634
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: vehicle in the shop last week that we did a

635
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: carbon cleaning on motor backed. Carbon clean didn't work and

636
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, I've been watching lately. It seems that carbon

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Speaker 1: clean that actual process of hooking the machine up has,

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, it's it's gotten very

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Speaker 1: specific on which vehicles it will work on. Older vehicles, yes,

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Speaker 1: newer vehicles not so much. And I think that newer

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Speaker 1: vehicle party line is somewhere around two thousand five two

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Speaker 1: thousand four. It seems that vehicles that don't have return lines,

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Speaker 1: it's not as effective. That's become my opinion of late.

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Speaker 1: And I think part of this is it seems like

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Speaker 1: the carbon is getting harder. Well, the folks at Berryman

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Speaker 1: UH must seem to agree with that, because they've introduced

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Speaker 1: a new high mileage fuel system cleaner specifically for vehicles

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Speaker 1: with over sixty tho miles on them, to go through

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Speaker 1: the fuel system and clean it. Because they're in agreements,

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Speaker 1: I guess um that they consulted me, but they could

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Speaker 1: have um. But it's that carbon deposits are becoming an issue.

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Speaker 1: So you can look for B twelve cam tool High

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Speaker 1: Mileage Fuel System Cleaner UH, you know, both at their

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Speaker 1: website and at your local oderparts store, and you know,

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Speaker 1: see the results there. So you're drawing an older vehicle.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, carbon is the biggest single

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Speaker 1: problem when it comes to fuel systems today. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be dealing with it for some time to come as

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Speaker 1: the formulation of gasoline continues to change and evolve. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I can see by the hands of the Great Favaga

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Speaker 1: that another hour of car doctor has come and gone,

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Speaker 1: and so must I go until the next time. Good

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Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, priceless seeing it