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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. My

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Speaker 1: name is no hiding a cold Brown. They called me

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Speaker 1: been you or you that makes this stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to kind of give people that caveat,

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Speaker 1: that glimpse into my personal life that I might sound weird. No,

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Speaker 1: Of course the episode you're tuning into here today is

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Speaker 1: a sequel to uh an episode we did earlier last

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Speaker 1: week when we covered the top conspiracies about Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: in our series All Action Part one. This is Election

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Speaker 1: Part two, Ladies and gentlemen. So what do you think

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Speaker 1: the realm of wild guesses would be out there, Jill Stein,

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Speaker 1: You're getting closer. Okay, who's the guy in Utah? Evan Brigham? Young?

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Speaker 1: Is it? This has got? This is our Gary Shandling episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a long time in coming. Uh. This is as as

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Speaker 1: up when we look at the top Conspiracies concerning the

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Speaker 1: Clinton campaign. Now, a lot of people were pretty um,

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Speaker 1: the earlier episode. So, like I said, before politics are passionate,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't really translates to politics, but it does have

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Speaker 1: out for us. Both candidates are surrounded by conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 1: and in this episode, we're looking at the Democratic front

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, this is a collection publicly available facts, arguments,

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Speaker 1: jump right into Mrs Hillary Rodham Clinton. She was born

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Speaker 1: was murdered, they don't think he was only indirectly murdered

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Speaker 1: by the Clintons, but also just one of many alleged victims.

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Speaker 1: So despite multiple investigations concerning the white Water scandal and

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Speaker 1: related things that can start um shop for in his report,

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Speaker 1: the Clintons themselves were never prosecuted, no jail time, no finds,

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Speaker 1: no um, no need to I guess publicly apologize if

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Speaker 1: they did anything wrong, or I think just said that

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Speaker 1: the system checked into it and the system found no crime.

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Speaker 1: But this leads to something else, And if you want

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Speaker 1: to learn more about this specific case of Vincent Foster,

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Speaker 1: a lot of the details. You can find an FB

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Speaker 1: inside the FBI vault, there is a huge, huge list

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Speaker 1: of documents where their official statements, findings, evidence, all that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Um. If that that's if you want

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Speaker 1: to see the official side, if you want to continue

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Speaker 1: on down that rabbit hole. UM more on the conspiratorial side,

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Speaker 1: you can look up the Strange death of Vincent Foster

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Speaker 1: Colan and investigation. That's by Christopher Rudy or I think

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Speaker 1: it's Rudy and he has been right. He wrote about

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Speaker 1: this then he's continued to look into it since then.

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Speaker 1: It's a fascinating story. It's got lots of intrigue, and

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Speaker 1: I would say, you know, uh, go for it if

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Speaker 1: you want to investigate more. Right, So that sounds like

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Speaker 1: the accusation here is that not one but two people

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Speaker 1: were somehow killed because they crossed the uh the Clinton

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Speaker 1: um administration, at least for the people who believe that, however,

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Speaker 1: or that's just the beginning of a rabbit hole. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did we already did? We mentioned that Vince Foster was

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Speaker 1: allegedly having an affair with Hillary Clinton. According to several sources,

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Speaker 1: they had been having this ongoing affair and he knew.

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Speaker 1: He knew certain things that maybe he shouldn't have known.

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Speaker 1: That's that's least. According to Rudy, he knew too much things.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and one of them was about the white

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Speaker 1: Water scandal itself and the money that they owed people,

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Speaker 1: and you know the people that owe them money. And

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Speaker 1: then I don't know, it's it gets all wrapped up.

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Speaker 1: It's this huge, it's quite sorted. It is. It's insane.

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Speaker 1: And again, there's an entire book you read to learn

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Speaker 1: more about it. And this isn't just as we're seeing

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Speaker 1: one or two people. This is the beginning of a

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Speaker 1: rabbit hole that many of you have written to us

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Speaker 1: before about and asked us to check out, and that

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Speaker 1: is the Clinton body count. So the idea here is

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Speaker 1: that the Clinton family and their associates have routinely been

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Speaker 1: murdering anyone who crosses their rise to power. So some

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Speaker 1: examples of this these are this is a long list,

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Speaker 1: and it's a varying um. That's the best way to say.

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Speaker 1: It's a varying likelihood. So James McDougall Mary mahoney was

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Speaker 1: a former White House intern murdered at a Starbucks coffee

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Speaker 1: shop in Georgetown it happened just after she was to

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Speaker 1: go public with a story of sexual harassment in the

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Speaker 1: White House. Again according to the people who believe in

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Speaker 1: the Clinton body count. Then there's Vince Foster Ron Brown. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is someone who died in a plane crash. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and a pathologist close to the investigation allegedly reported there

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Speaker 1: was a hole in the top of his skull resembling

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Speaker 1: a gunshot wound. See Victor Razor too and Montgomery razor ed.

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Speaker 1: Willie Clinton fundraiser found deep in the woods with a

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Speaker 1: gunshot wound to the head, and nine three died on

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Speaker 1: the same day his wife playing Bill Clinton groped in

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Speaker 1: the Oval office at the White House. The list goes on.

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Speaker 1: You can find different versions of it. Um. I pulled

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Speaker 1: up one that has fifty three people on it, which means,

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Speaker 1: if it's remotely true, that's insane. How could The first

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Speaker 1: question is how could that happen without any repercussion? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because whomever killed jfk I had

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Speaker 1: to go to a lot of trouble to get one person.

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Speaker 1: Granted that was the president, so it's a little tougher, right.

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Speaker 1: That's like trying to snipe a final boss in a

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Speaker 1: video game. And I don't mean to be insincere, it

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Speaker 1: really is had to be a difficult thing. Within the list,

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Speaker 1: there's even a sub list of bodyguards who worked for

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Speaker 1: the Clintons. There's a whole bunch of them, five s

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Speaker 1: like twelve bodyguards that are listed here as having died

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Speaker 1: according to this one source. Right. And so we read

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Speaker 1: some examples of this with different um different causes of death,

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Speaker 1: different ideas. And for people who don't believe in this,

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Speaker 1: they'll say, well, you know, you're just reading tea leaves.

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Speaker 1: You have confirmation bias. People just die all the time.

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Speaker 1: But there are a lot of gunshot wounds here on

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Speaker 1: their multiple on that list, and they're grouped by purported

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Speaker 1: information they would have on specific cases, right, And these

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Speaker 1: people are known associates of the Clintons in some former fashion. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so we we wonder, you know, there's it's it's

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Speaker 1: no secret that at the top of at the at

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Speaker 1: the top of any hierarchy, there's going to be a

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Speaker 1: lot of corruption, A lot of dirty deeds are done,

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Speaker 1: I guess fairly expensively. I hate to break the lyrics there,

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Speaker 1: but we had another another guy who shows up on

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Speaker 1: the list it might be familiar to longtime listeners is

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Speaker 1: a guy named Danny Casolero, an investigative reporter who slid

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Speaker 1: his wrists purportedly in the middle of his investigation. I

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Speaker 1: think after he said, Hey, if someone tells you that

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Speaker 1: I killed myself, don't believe it. And you know, we

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Speaker 1: also know that these kind of political murders just in

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Speaker 1: general across the globe. Without saying we found any any proof,

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Speaker 1: any solid proof on the Clinton side, we can say

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Speaker 1: that we know these kind of murders occur, like that

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Speaker 1: intelligence operative for m I six is in m MY

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Speaker 1: five or M I six who apparently locked himself in

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Speaker 1: a Duffel bag. Yeah, and then you know how many

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Speaker 1: times like how do how does somebody just run into polonium?

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Speaker 1: I think the Russian, the Russian faction or intelligence service

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Speaker 1: that did that clearly wanted people to know it was Russia.

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Speaker 1: I like to keep someone round just in case, just

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Speaker 1: to have Yeah, just for like for the table, take care,

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Speaker 1: I'll take care of the cheese dip. If you've got

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Speaker 1: the polonium. That seems reasonable. Ben, our parties are great, Matt,

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Speaker 1: can you bring fun hats? Yeah, I've got a whole

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Speaker 1: truckload of those. Okay. Uh, so we've got our fun hats,

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Speaker 1: polonium and cheese dips sorted, which I guess means it's

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Speaker 1: time to move on to something else. The Clinton Foundation.

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Speaker 1: This was a big one too. So according to uh

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Speaker 1: several several different sources. Uh, there are allegations about the

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation and the phrase we mentioned earlier, pay to play.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of folks who are opponents of the

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Speaker 1: Clinton campaign argue that there is dirty money that was

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Speaker 1: going into the Clinton Foundation during um Hillary Clintons time

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Speaker 1: has sec terry of State and that this, uh, this

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Speaker 1: money was essentially functioning as a bribe to have Clinton

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Speaker 1: used her influence at the State Department to get a

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Speaker 1: more favorable outcome for somebody, you know, like twelve million

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Speaker 1: from the found from the King of Morocco to the foundation.

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Speaker 1: And the question is like how much how much influence

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Speaker 1: really occurred there? We do know in the past that

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Speaker 1: there have been political machines where someone says, you know, well,

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Speaker 1: donate to my, uh my home for elderly orphans, and

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Speaker 1: I will make sure that you get that uranium mind

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Speaker 1: that you wanted, and uh, I don't know it sounds

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Speaker 1: more to me like a meet and greet, you know,

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Speaker 1: with a rock band or your favorite singer. You know,

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Speaker 1: but didn't we just discussed that meet and greek session

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Speaker 1: alone can be some form of influence. That's true, but

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Speaker 1: so could meeting in sync. You know, if I paid

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Speaker 1: a bunch of money to go to a meet and

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Speaker 1: greet within Sync and they just happened to, you know,

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Speaker 1: make me the fifth member of in Sync? How many

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Speaker 1: people ran in Sync? I forget? You know that I

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Speaker 1: would be life changing for me and totally worth the investment.

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Speaker 1: But that isn't necessarily going to happen. That's not guaranteed

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Speaker 1: to happen, right, but it's potential for it to happen.

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Speaker 1: So is this kind of behavior illegal? The legality is aside.

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Speaker 1: I would just say that if you decide not to

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Speaker 1: have that meeting, not to pay the money to go

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Speaker 1: and have the handshake, then you're guaranteed to not be

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Speaker 1: heard on whatever issue it is you're trying to push.

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Speaker 1: You gotta try, you know, everyone's got their dreams. But no, seriously, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is obviously a an ethical question, but

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Speaker 1: is it illegal? Right? Yeah? And and more importantly, are

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Speaker 1: they actually using the foundation to launder money from shady

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Speaker 1: characters or something like that. Uh. The show last week

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Speaker 1: tonight had had a great piece on some of these

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Speaker 1: implications and indictments. For instance, you know, you can read

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Speaker 1: a headline that says you can give of Morocco or

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Speaker 1: um elderly Nazi or whatever donates money to Clinton campaign

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Speaker 1: and then they make a deal with someone else. But

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Speaker 1: depending on the way the money is distributed to a

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Speaker 1: foundation or what kind of falsett it comes out of,

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Speaker 1: the person who is behind the money may never be revealed.

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Speaker 1: You might just say, like, here's a twelve million dollar

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Speaker 1: donation from the Committee for Research into um extraordinary remarks,

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Speaker 1: and you will have no idea that's you know, George

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Speaker 1: Soros or the Koch brothers or um who's like the

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Speaker 1: most evil person right now? Rothschild, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know the Philippines head So I guess to take

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Speaker 1: away here. And what makes a lot of people uneasy

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Speaker 1: about Mrs Clinton is the perception that she is for

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Speaker 1: sale to the highest bidder. If you donate money, then

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Speaker 1: she'll get in a room with you, and there's potential

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Speaker 1: that she'll do you solid and use a vampire voice too,

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Speaker 1: like that of what you like from the people of Montana,

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Speaker 1: or more like you know godfather voice where it's like,

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Speaker 1: then there's the day have my daughter is birth day, Well,

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Speaker 1: may call upon you one day to do the kind

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Speaker 1: of to me. That's that could be happening right now

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Speaker 1: as it is the day of her birthday. Or maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a bobcat gold Slate voice really or a Gilbert

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Speaker 1: Godfrey voice. What I could only hope, But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I've I've ever been you know what I mean. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess what I'm getting at is like, no, it's

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Speaker 1: not illegal, but it's sure does call into question this

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Speaker 1: person's um integrity, integrity, Yeah, it definitely could look bad,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And this this is called yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is called in question numerous times people have people

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Speaker 1: have mentioned it in this debate m or this current

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Speaker 1: political cycle, and have mentioned it before. The Clinton Foundation, though,

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Speaker 1: is a is a powerful global entity, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. So it's going to get money from a

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Speaker 1: lot of places, even Morocco. So another thing we've heard

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Speaker 1: about pretty often is the Benghazi attack in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and twelve. This would be while Hillary Clinton was still

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State. UH. There was an attack on an

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Speaker 1: American diplomatic compound in BEng Ghazi, the Libyan Consulate UH.

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Speaker 1: It resulted in the death of the U. S Ambassador

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Speaker 1: Olibya Um, as well as some officers UH, the Depth

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Speaker 1: of Information Management Officer Sean Smith. A lot of the Libyans,

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Speaker 1: the local Libyans condemn the attacks, just thought this was disgusting.

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Speaker 1: This got picked up UM to the tune of like

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Speaker 1: eight separate congressional investigations attempting to discern who is at fault,

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Speaker 1: and different conspiracy theories sprang up around the idea that Um,

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Speaker 1: the Secretary of State Clinton was either responsible through negligence

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Speaker 1: or even some purposeful thing that's largely been put to

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Speaker 1: bed in the mainstream. Fox News came out and reported

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Speaker 1: on it and said that after the investigations, well, actually,

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Speaker 1: I have a quote here. Would you guys like to

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Speaker 1: hear it? Please? Oh? Right, here's the quote. The House

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Speaker 1: Committee investigating the deadly terror attack in Benghazi today released

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Speaker 1: its report after two years seven million dollar investigation, the

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Speaker 1: eighth investigation to date. The authors of the report make

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Speaker 1: no new accusations or provide no new evidence wrongdoing against

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Speaker 1: the former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. So for many

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Speaker 1: people who are opponents of the Clinton family, they're thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: they just house the cards that once more and so

641
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: now fin angle their way out of something. But for

642
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: other people, it's like, did the did political opponents just

643
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: attempt to make um a means of attack? Right? And

644
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: that's a good question whenever you are this far along

645
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: in the election process. And these are all things that

646
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: happened before Hillary Clinton was this bar like was even

647
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: really running uh for president time for the second time. Yeah,

648
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: So that leads us to the butt. Wait, there's more moment,

649
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: which is what happens during the election. Well, I think

650
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: we've about made it to modern day, shall we say, um,

651
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: with all the hubbub going on right now with this

652
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: uh two thousand and sixteen presidential election. But before we

653
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Speaker 1: hop into that good stuff, let's just take another quick

654
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: little sponsor break. So the allegations reached a fever pitched

655
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: the conspiracies on both sides, UH became more and more frequent,

656
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: and more and more I guess prominent in the national

657
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: debate when the elections UH and the campaign's actually began.

658
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: The biggest one, of course, which we have mentioned before,

659
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: is the idea that there was a rigged election. Yeah,

660
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: and the primaries first, with the d n C working

661
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: in like uh with the Clinton campaign to make sure

662
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton would be the nominee and to shut

663
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: out Bernie Sanders, who was gaining more and more popularity

664
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Speaker 1: as they got towards the convention, especially considering the d

665
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: n C chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz um had worked with

666
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton on her previous campaign. Yes, yeah, and was

667
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: the head of you know, the d n C. So

668
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: supposed to play fairly at all times. However, it seems

669
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: like they haven't. Um. It seems like that when the

670
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: rubber hit the road, that was not the case. And

671
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: it was strange because for a lot of people who

672
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: were supporting Bernie Sanders on the Democratic side of the debate, uh,

673
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: they were feeling, in a way this very similar to

674
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: what some Trump supporters were probably feeling, where they thought,

675
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: you know, this was a candidate who was running not

676
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: just against the other party, but against the big wigs

677
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: and the fat cats of the establishment in their own wigs,

678
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: the fat wigs and the big cats and all the

679
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: fancy pants and unicorns with their unbendable pinkies and their

680
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: monocles and their uh cravats, their bubble pipes, their fancy pretzels,

681
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: nothing but the best. But yeah, we kid, but you know,

682
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: we kid, But those are all real things. Well, the

683
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: actual people who control the system currently, yeah, aka the

684
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: political class. So they felt many of these people were

685
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders supporters felt that they were they were being

686
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: suppressed by this system that was built to um create

687
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: the illusion of choice rather than the actual agency of choice. Debbie,

688
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 1: Wasson and Schultz got a lot of flak from that.

689
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: And to be honest, looking at it, this is just

690
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: my opinion. It doesn't look good. It certainly doesn't look unbiased,

691
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: you know. I mean there was a lot of internal

692
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: discussion about more or less undermining the Sanders campaign, you know,

693
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: or like bringing up um questions that would make Bernie

694
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: Sanders look bad in terms of his religious beliefs. That

695
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: was one that got put out there. Um, and you know,

696
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: just just the general tone was not one of impartiality. Yeah.

697
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: I was saying stuff like we'll do whatever we can

698
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: to shore the Clinton presidency. And it's strange, there there's

699
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: something else here that makes me wonder. Um, you know, people.

700
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: People don't just allege that the d n C was

701
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: UM was corrupt. They also alleged people who support trumpers

702
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: support another candidate like Stein or Johnson or whomever, including

703
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: Donald Trump himself, alleged that the current election is rigged,

704
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: which we talked a little bit about last week. That's

705
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: the idea that the Trump and Clinton campaigns were actually

706
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: working together in concert, in beautiful, glorious political music making

707
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: concert with one another to guarantee Mrs Clinton's election. So

708
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: the idea that Donald Trump himself was a was running

709
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: a false flag campaign to benefit the Clinton campaign. Yeah,

710
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: you summon up beautifully. And we talked about this a

711
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: little bit last week. But to go uh a step

712
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: further with this, uh, there are people who will argue

713
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: that this decision over the identity of the next president

714
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: was decided back in Barack Obama's first term, when uh,

715
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: when Clinton was given the the Door Prize of American Politics,

716
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: which is the Secretary of State. Yeah, and essentially that

717
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: she gave up the nomination. She endorsed Barack Obama at

718
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Speaker 1: the UM what the d n at the National Convention

719
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Speaker 1: in oh I guess that was a seven o eight

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Speaker 1: When that was occurring, and in order to do that,

721
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: she was like told, yeah, no worries your next in line,

722
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: and that's sort of you know, we saw what we saw.

723
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: John Kerry, the UM former would be president, also gets

724
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Speaker 1: Secretary of State John Forbes Kerry by the way, speaking

725
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: of big wigs. Uh, but to mention his wife Teresa Hines,

726
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: I know that sweet catchup money. I hope, I hope

727
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: what I hope at some point one of them has

728
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: said that this catchup money kind of like blood money,

729
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: but it's much sweeter. It's only for college films. Better

730
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: on hot dogs. It's way better on hot dogs. I

731
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: was thinking the same thing. So, yeah, that that allegation

732
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: goes up to this idea that there exists a political

733
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: class in this country. And this political class, uh, it's

734
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: far more concerned with the electoral than the popular votes right,

735
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: and is completely happy to have you, me and the

736
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: average Jane John Doe American. Uh, more concerned with soundbites

737
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: and political jokes are spectacle bread and circuses than to

738
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: hear what candidates actually want to do. That's why we

739
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: wanted to open both of these with recommending that you

740
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: go check out the policies both of the front runners,

741
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: especially the one you disagree with. You should know what

742
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: you're disagreeing with, unless, of course, all of those things

743
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: that you're reading are not the actual policy stances of

744
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: the people that are running for an office, because instead

745
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 1: they say those things behind closed doors to like during

746
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: a fundraiser, or because they're getting paid two hundred thousand

747
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: plus dollars to speak, right. Yeah, that goes back to

748
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: some of the leaked transcripts and stuff about the Clinton

749
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: conversations with Wall Street. Yeah, you just gotta have a

750
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: public policy stance and a private policy stance. And in

751
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: her defense, when she said when she was somebody asked

752
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: her about that, she said it was a reference to

753
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln's work, uh Many, reuniting the country after the

754
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: Civil War. I mean, sure, I mean it sounds noble.

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00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: At the same time, it's just politics as usual, as

756
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: we understand. Sound noble or does it sound duplicitous? I mean,

757
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say that, but yes, I mean I

758
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: don't know. Abraham Lincoln had a pretty noble beard, you know,

759
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: he strikes quite a noble figure, you know. But yeah,

760
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: but look at you got. It's hard to trust you

761
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: when you say stuff like that because you have an

762
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: amazing beard. Oh you think I'm being duplicitous. I think

763
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: it might Beard. I think you mightn't see my face.

764
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 1: I think you might have a conversational bias here. That's fair. Well,

765
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, um no, I just I think it all

766
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: comes down to this question of, you know, whether or

767
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: not a candidate can be bought or if they are

768
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: quote unquote of the people. And you know, even Barack

769
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: Obama not saying that he's been bought, but as much

770
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: of a populist candidate in general as he seems to

771
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: have been, sort of like a guy you'd want to

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00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: have a beer with or you know, go roller skating

773
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: with or something like that. I mean, you know, the

774
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: guy has a public face in a private face, and

775
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: he's going to make decisions as needed, and he's not

776
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: always necessarily trying to check off his list every single

777
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: policy promise that he made when he was running. I mean,

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00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: you say these things to get a certain demographic behind you,

779
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: and then once you get elected, it's sort of like

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00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: all bets are off. Yeah. I was gonna ask, like,

781
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: how much of this election stuff is pillow talk? You know,

782
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: it's like baby, Yeah, I love you, I love you, America,

783
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: come here. It seems like that's what most of it is.

784
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: And maybe it's always been this way. It's just now

785
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: again because of the Internet and because of the advancements

786
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: in technology, we kind of no better, at least more

787
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: of us no better. Yeah, one would, one would hope.

788
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: But there's all right. And that's the big argument that

789
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: people are making about supporting Trump is that he represents

790
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: moving away from that, you know, where it's like, no,

791
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: he says what he thinks, he's he's not full of it.

792
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: You know, he is going to do what he thinks

793
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: his best. Whether or not you believe that what he

794
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: thinks is best is in fact a good thing or

795
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: not is entirely different story. Kind of what you see

796
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: is what you get up what he sees what you get.

797
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: There are people that are tired of this political you know,

798
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: jockeying and uh, just pillow talk, as you say. But

799
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: I think that's completely accurate, and it's a little bit frustrating,

800
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: and I think that's why a lot of people are

801
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: are very dis enchanted with the whole process and feel

802
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: very hopeless about it. It may also be why a

803
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: little over fifty of the voters in this country in

804
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve actually cast a vote for the presidency.

805
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: Only a little over half actually voted people who could vote.

806
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: And you guys know, I'm pretty cynical about this stuff

807
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: often because people are gonna show up once every four

808
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: years to cast one vote and then say, well, I've

809
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: done my done my bit. Now I'm purchasing my right

810
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: to complain for the next four years. Here's a great example.

811
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to let this go by and miss

812
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: this opportunity. Here's a great example maybe of public face

813
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: and private face to take knowals earlier earlier mentioned of

814
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Speaker 1: Barack Obama, who, by the if you're listening to this

815
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: the day it comes out, is still president for a

816
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: little while. Um So when when originally that that candidate

817
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: was campaigning and we're promising the sun, moon and stars,

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, to everybody, U better position for student loans

819
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: which are already burgeoning crisis, uh, better assistance for the

820
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Speaker 1: average family, and then closing Guantanamo Bay, ending some of

821
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: the horrific uh quagmire events in the Middle East. But

822
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: then later you know, it didn't close Guantanamo. He's gonna try, yes,

823
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: but he also he also helped invade Libya and and

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Speaker 1: told the domestic population of the United States that this

825
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: was to protect our interest and a matter of human rights.

826
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Speaker 1: It is confirmed by current leaks leaked documents from Wiki leaks,

827
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Speaker 1: primarily that the real reason the West invaded Libya is

828
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Speaker 1: because France wanted to keep the frank that has used

829
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Speaker 1: as currency in that part of the world as the

830
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Speaker 1: dominant currency. Moll Mar Gadaffi, with great reserves of gold,

831
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Speaker 1: wanted to unite the continent of Africa into a you know,

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Speaker 1: United UH, United African Union and and AU to the

833
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Speaker 1: EU and then have a common currency there which would

834
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Speaker 1: empower a lot of these countries that have been systematically

835
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Speaker 1: impressed since colonialism UH, so that their resources can be

836
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Speaker 1: extracted and enable the lifestyles of the of the people

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Speaker 1: who were born into these gigantic companies that would take

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Speaker 1: over countries back in the day. And once you get

839
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Speaker 1: to that level, ben and you realize that that's what's

840
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: at stake. These kinds of things are what it's what's

841
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: at stake. It makes me at least imagine that the

842
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: president is not making the decisions, these decisions alone, that

843
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: the president is not um maybe even as oh God, personally,

844
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: when I think about these things, then it makes me

845
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: see at least a bit of a glinn at something

846
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: that I've thought for a while, and that's that the president,

847
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: whoever it is him or herself, is not as powerful

848
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: as maybe we would like to believe. It's the humans

849
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: that are that surround the president that actually are the

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00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: powerhouse in making these decisions, making these deals, deciding that

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Speaker 1: we are going to go to war, or at least

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Speaker 1: speaking to the president's ear and saying we need to

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Speaker 1: do this, we need to get this done because of X,

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Speaker 1: Y and Z. What ends up happening is the president

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Speaker 1: becomes this figurehead that we hang many people hang all

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Speaker 1: of our hopes and fears, you know, and outrage on

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Speaker 1: when things don't go as planned, when things are going

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Speaker 1: well at a boy at a gal president, but when

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Speaker 1: things are crumbling, it's all about the president, and the

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Speaker 1: president that's the person that's out there in public that

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Speaker 1: you can literally make the brunt of your frustrations. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean there's something to be said about

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Speaker 1: that as a sort of opiate effect of you know,

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Speaker 1: on the masses, where you have this kind of targeted

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Speaker 1: individual that people are able to praise or curse. Man,

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Speaker 1: it sort of takes the um focus off of the

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Speaker 1: machinations that are really work. I think that's a great

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Speaker 1: point because when it goes to machinations that are really

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Speaker 1: at work, if we're talking, if we take it back

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Speaker 1: to that private public audience, Barack Obama's public audience was

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Speaker 1: the American people into a lesser degree. Uh, citizens of

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Speaker 1: other countries to whom the US plays an instrumental role,

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Speaker 1: like Canadians, right and uh. The private audience, however, was out.

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Speaker 1: It was It was out in France. Lawmakers in France

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Speaker 1: and NATO saying, look, guys, the frank is really big

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Speaker 1: to us, and we're buddies. Right well yeah, and OPEC,

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Speaker 1: all of OPEC going, hey, you know we uh we

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Speaker 1: atually needs you to keep that money because we we're

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Speaker 1: backing all the oil with these currencies. So yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna need you to do something. In America, I can't

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Speaker 1: speak to any opaque involvement. I just know that France

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00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: was definitely France, definitely, but it's I mean, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: just say they are monetarily involved even if they had

884
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Speaker 1: no say, I see what his decisions and so sorry

885
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: we're getting I got us a little bit off track here,

886
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: but you make a great point. So private public face

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00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: email scandal that has been existing for a long time,

888
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: still not prosecuted. Hillary Clinton used a private email server

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Speaker 1: based in the basement of her home that used to

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Speaker 1: be uh part of her husband's home office to hold

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00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: thousands of official pieces of electronic correspondence. Why is this

892
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: a big deal? Why does it matter? Great question? Well,

893
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: it's because if you're Secretary of State, you're going to

894
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: deal with quite a lot of classified material. It could

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Speaker 1: be anything from just confidential all the way up to

896
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Speaker 1: top secret all the way to some weird classification that

897
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't know of because I'm not the Secretary of State,

898
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: nobody knows about it. And doing this was not without precedent,

899
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 1: let's put out there. Colin Powell did this as well,

900
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: and discouraged Mrs Clinton from doing it because of the

901
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: potential for conflict of interest. He knew that it would

902
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: be a headache, right, He probably almost wished he hadn't

903
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: done it in the first place. Like that old Hank

904
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: Williams song, I've been down that road before, Hank Williams, Sr.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I was listening to it earlier.

906
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: Good stuff, So wise it's a wise man. Thanks I did.

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01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know I would work that hard to squeeze

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01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: that one into conversation. But here we are, folks, here

909
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: we are. UH. An FBI investigation into these private servers

910
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: and some of the allegations missing emails found that over

911
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: one hundred of the emails they surveyed contained confidential, secret

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01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: or even top secret data. In the course of their investigation,

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01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: they concluded that the Clinton campaign had been or excuse me,

914
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: the Clinton administration secretarycy had been extremely careless, but that

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01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: it was not a prosecutable offense. A lot of people

916
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: who think this was a shady or sketchy thing point

917
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: out that just a week before FBI Director James Comey

918
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: announced that the bureau would not file charges against Hillary

919
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: Clinton for storing that stuff on a private server, Attorney

920
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: General Loretta Lynch had a private meeting with Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: on her jet in Phoenix. It was an unplanned meeting, allegedly,

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01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: and they just talked about grandchildren and golf. Yeah, it

923
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: just happened to be coincidental that the two of them

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01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: met up as the scandal was unfolding well. Of course,

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Speaker 1: The New York Post reported that FBI agents believed there

926
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: was an inside deal afoot. Um this, Uh, this sounds

927
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: like another another case of you know what looks bad?

928
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: It really does, and what can you do about it?

929
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Speaker 1: It's very tough for us. Former president goes onto a plane. Yeah,

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01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: they can't meet in a restaurant, come on, or maybe

931
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: security is better on a private plane. See, that's all

932
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: it is. They just wanted to say hey on the

933
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Speaker 1: plane because of security. And then um, John Podesta, campaign

934
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: manager for Clinton campaign, gets his emails hacked, and you're

935
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: getting a look at a lot of a lot of

936
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: the way that the organization works. Um, wiki leaks release these,

937
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: and wiki Leaks is releasing them and dribs and drabs

938
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: and bursts. The idea being if they release them all

939
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: at once, the mainstream media will suppress the story. But

940
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: if they release them in small burst, people will go

941
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: hooked and continue to tune in. At this point, Uh,

942
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: there is no d O J or FBI um proceedings

943
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: against the Clinton family, and uh, either she or Donald Trump,

944
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: unless something incredibly strange happens, are going to be uh

945
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Speaker 1: President's presidents of the United States. And it looks like

946
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Speaker 1: we're running almost out of time. We've gone on for

947
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: a while. But if you guys would like, I could

948
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,959
Speaker 1: just read a list of some of the miscellaneous conspiracies

949
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: that we didn't get to. You got a whole list.

950
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: I have a whole list. So there's a lot of

951
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: stuff that alleges, you know, adult times shenanigan rey, like

952
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 1: illegitimate children or different fathers. Is also a it's also

953
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: a theory about body doubles. We covered in another thing. Um.

954
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: There's also this theory that when Bill Clinton was governor,

955
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: the Clinton's uh covered up a multimillion dollar cocaine smuggling

956
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: ring based in Mina, Arkansas. Yeah, and Reverend Jerry Folwell

957
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: distributed thing about it called the Clinton Chronicles. Oh my gosh,

958
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: I know, it's all over the place. And I remember

959
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: one of the last ones been is that she's actually

960
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: a Republican, that that Hillary Clinton is in fact a

961
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: Republican in in Democrat clothing. She's a Dino Democrat in

962
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Speaker 1: name only. Yeah, and uh, we know that we didn't

963
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: get to everything for either Donald Trump or for Hillary Clinton,

964
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: but we'd like to hear some of your thoughts. Apparently

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Speaker 1: she's also a demon demon Alex Jones both lizard people.

966
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Speaker 1: Alex Jones said that, yeah, he doesn't say that. He

967
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: says she's not David. She smells use far. Well, maybe

968
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: I will have to check out his show one day

969
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: in the meantime, what do you think? Oh? One of

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01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: the other conspiracies that we didn't really mention is that,

971
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: of course the Clinton campaign supporters believe wholeheartedly that almost

972
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: all of these are trumped up accusations. Maybe that's a

973
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: poor choice of words, from trickle down accusations, yeah, Trump

974
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: to up accusations, Uh, meant to just discredit somebody. So

975
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Speaker 1: that's also something in the mix. Whether you support or

976
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: opposed Hillary Clinton, whether you support or opposed Donald Trump,

977
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: whether you decided you know what, I'm not gonna buy

978
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: into this false diychotomy. I'm going to vote for whatever

979
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: candidate I actually believe in, even if they don't have

980
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: it Snowball's chance and death Valley. But most importantly, y'all

981
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: happy Halloween, because that's what really matters. Okay, So if

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Speaker 1: you want to find some of the stories we've been

983
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984
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,920
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985
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,560
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990
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991
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992
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993
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