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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edo state?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Woo woom? And Dan and Tie welcome back

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Speaker 2: to the solid Verbo Boys. Girls. My name is ty

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Speaker 2: hilden Brand. Joining me is always over there in Chicago Land,

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Speaker 2: the one, the only, the incomparable. Dan Rubinstein, sir, how

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Speaker 2: are you? I'm good, I'm comparable. I just a easy

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Speaker 2: disagree right there. I am comparable. How's your shoulder?

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Speaker 1: Not bad? Not bad? We're doing an SEC East and

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Speaker 1: into the right place. But it's also shoulder talk. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've been doing the Throwers ten. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you're familiar with not at all. The Doctor James Andrews

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Speaker 2: You ready for a professional segue? Dan? Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: So ready? The only workout I need to get me

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Speaker 2: excited is the SEC East Boom. It's the SEC East

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Speaker 2: Two cool rockets and one shaped like the Jeff Bezos

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Speaker 2: So again, for those of you just tuning in, Hello,

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Speaker 2: I'm Ty He's Dan with the soliverbal. We've been previewing

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Speaker 2: all the conferences in college football, were working our way

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. I love watching SECS football.

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Speaker 2: As do I. The theme of our previews it's like

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Speaker 1: We've got the Baby Driver song, We've got the was

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Speaker 2: Get seventy miles to the Gallon on this hog, I

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Speaker 2: You know. I like Georgia. I've been to Athens. I

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Speaker 2: of touchdowns. The running back corps is deep. It sucks

434
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Speaker 2: that George Pickens got hurt, and so I have questions

435
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: out wide about what's that huge question when you say

436
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: we know what George is going to look like, that's

437
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: the question to me, if there was if there was

438
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: an element to the twenty twenty squad. And granted that

439
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: the Stetson Bennett squad.

440
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: Was not the JT. Daniels squad, it's not just what JT.

441
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: Daniels looks like, but it's who is JT. Daniels throwing

442
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: to What do the game changers out wide look like?

443
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: Especially even if George Pickens plays, obviously he's going to

444
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: be playing on a rehabilitated knee. It's Jermaine Burton. It's

445
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: what Karris Jackson like, who is that guy that is?

446
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: Like?

447
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: Okay, here is the suddenly gravitational player next to Pickens

448
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: or in lieu of Pickens? Whatever? What does that? That

449
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: is the element to Georgia that we haven't fully consistently

450
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,479
Speaker 1: seen against the best teams in the CHAC.

451
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 2: No, it's one hundred percent true, and again it sucks

452
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: that Pickens got hurt again.

453
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, unbelievable talent.

454
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: I feel pretty confident that Georgia has the pieces and

455
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 2: that somebody can step up and can be that number

456
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 2: one threatn Lou of Pickens. But yeah, that is the

457
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: real question about the offense. Because the running back court

458
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: is very deep. I like JT. Daniels, provided he can

459
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: stay healthy. The line is loaded with talent. They're still

460
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: going to have to tweak that combination a little bit.

461
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Speaker 2: And I think Matt Luke, the former Ole Miss coach,

462
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: a very good offensive line coach. Yeah, he's still kind

463
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: of playing with that formula to figure out what it

464
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: looks like up front, but it should be very good. Again,

465
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: it's it's really a question of health for JT. Daniels,

466
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: and I think what kind of weapons he has out wide,

467
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: certainly not in the running game. They're going to be

468
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: fine there.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

470
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Speaker 2: Defensively, where Georgia really made its hay last year. They're loaded. Yeah,

471
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: they're loaded. Surprise, surprise. Yeah, you know again to the

472
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 2: point of this not being much of a mystery, they're loaded.

473
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Speaker 2: Best defensive line in the SEC, no questions asked for me,

474
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: led by Jordan Davis. He could have gone pro kind

475
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: of surprised people deciding to come back.

476
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Speaker 1: There's some good lines in the SEC coming back this year.

477
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I'm it's hard to make an argument against it.

478
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: George is the best, might have the second best linebacking

479
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: corps behind Alabama, led by Nacobe Dean Love Nacobe Dean

480
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: mm hmm. Secondary is still very good, but it is

481
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: a question mark of the defense they got to couldn't

482
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: yell here and figure it out very quickly going up

483
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: against homes dj Uyangala.

484
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, who can throw.

485
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 2: The ball vertically?

486
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: In week one mm hmm.

487
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: Look, they can hang with Clemson and they can beat Clemson.

488
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 2: I think George is home free. There's just not a

489
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: lot of offense. There's not a lot of offense that

490
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: scares me on this schedule. And even Florida's got a

491
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: lot of turnover. We'll talk about them next if you want.

492
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: Colarda's got a lot of turnover. There big questions about

493
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 2: what that offense is going to look like. I don't know.

494
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: Outside of that Clemson game, there's not a lot here

495
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: that scares me. And I think Vegas agrees because the

496
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: over under is ten and a half.

497
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: When's the Florida game. The Florida game is on Halloween weekend. Okay,

498
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 1: so if Emery Jones and whatever the Florida offense is

499
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: going to succeed this year, it will be operating by

500
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: then if it is successful, because they're obviously you know

501
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 1: Kadarius Tony, Kyle Pitts, Trevon Grimes, a lot of new

502
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: pieces on that offense, just in terms of pieces, but

503
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: that is you know, that is time for.

504
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: There's time, there's time. But this, I would say, just

505
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: on the whole this and I jitted this down. The

506
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: schedule gives me serious Clemson vibes that it's not just

507
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: because Clemson's on the schedule. It's just that there's really

508
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: like one big game and then after that it's very manageable.

509
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 2: They get Arkansas and a road tilt against Auburn from

510
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: the West. Do any of those scay you? They don't

511
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: scare me. The only other landmine is at Florida game,

512
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: and given Florida's turnover, maybe they'll have it cranked up

513
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 2: by then. But Florida's got more questions just offense. Defense

514
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 2: wasn't particularly great a year ago either, So I don't know.

515
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: Georgia is the team that I feel most confident in

516
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: on that side of the SEC.

517
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: Well, there's also another question, by the way, anytime you

518
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: start J. T. Daniels, it's who's behind JT Daniels because.

519
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: That's an issue that is an issue.

520
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: The dude got hurt early on, but he has had

521
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: injury ish, So it is it Carson Beck? Is it

522
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: Brock vander Griff Like who is expected if called upon

523
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: to come in? I don't haven't had fall camp yet,

524
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: so who knows. But like, that's that's a big thing

525
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: to watch out for. And then I'm you know, Vander

526
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: griff I believe was their five star and so.

527
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: And Stetson Bennin is still there. He's still there. You know,

528
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: he was finely serviceable backup. But let me put a

529
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: very fine point on this. Yeah, if you think Georgia

530
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: will go zero to two against both Clemson and Florida,

531
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: then you take the under ten and a half, right.

532
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: If you think they'll go one and one or better,

533
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: then you take the over. That's what's in the tank.

534
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: I can get seventy miles to the gallon on this dog.

535
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 2: I personally fall in the ladder. I don't know how

536
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: they'll do against Clemson. I think they're good enough to

537
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: beat Clemson.

538
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: Sure, so I.

539
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: Would go over ten and a half, which is a

540
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: high number. But I feel that strongly about this Georgia team.

541
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: I think they win the East. I think they're a

542
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: real contender here. How they score up against Bama, you know,

543
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: we can talk about that on the next show. But

544
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: I really feel pretty strongly about George's chances this year.

545
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: This could be the year for Kirby Smart.

546
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: They should I would take the over. I am right

547
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: now without having studied Florida too extensively, I'm somewhat bearish

548
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: on the Gators this year, just in terms of it

549
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: being sort of an in between year, a gap year.

550
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: But there's no crazy back to backs. After Clemson, it's

551
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: UA B, South Carolina, Andy, Arkansas at Auburn, Kentucky. Like,

552
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm just not terribly worried about year one of Brian Harrison.

553
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: Kentucky's challenging, but that's in Athens. If it were at

554
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Miszoo after the Florida game, that sort of makes me

555
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: tip my head a little bit. But no, it's in Sanford.

556
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: So like I just I'm not terribly worried. I would

557
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: I have them at a eleven and one at the

558
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: very worst, especially since they were able to weather things

559
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: and move on to JT. Daniels in the weirdness that

560
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty. So like the stability in full regular offseason,

561
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: in health, et cetera of JT. Daniels, I think it's

562
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: a big deal.

563
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so we agree, then we agree over Yeah,

564
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: speaking of Florida, let's talk about Florida. Let's you say

565
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: you're bearish on Florida a little bit. Yeah, I think

566
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: I share that point of view. Florida went eight and

567
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 2: four year ago, they were about twelve points away from

568
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: an undefeated regular season. They were lost by three at

569
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: A and M because they had the Malik Davis turnover,

570
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: which contributed. They had the stupid penalty against LSU with

571
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: the Marco Wilson in the shoe thing, which.

572
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was also very foggy. It was just

573
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: a weird game. That was a strange moment. Yeah, the

574
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: shoe was a cherry on top a bunch of penalties

575
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: down the stretch against Bamba. They only lost that one

576
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: by six, a bit of a shootout.

577
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they went to the bowl game, they were depleted,

578
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: They had a bunch of guys opt out. They got

579
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: drilled by Oklahoma. Again, I take so much of that

580
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: with a grain of salt, but it was super impressive

581
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: the talent that they had on the same field because

582
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: Kyle Trask got drafted obviously, Kadarius Tony and Kyle Pitts

583
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 2: both went in the first round. Trevon Grimes, you know,

584
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: trying to make his way into the league as well.

585
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: So it's they had a lot of talent on the

586
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, and they were fun to watch.

587
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: The job that Dan Mullen did with Kyle Trask was

588
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: just remarkable over the span of a couple of years.

589
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he turned Kyle Trask into an NFL talent.

590
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: So here we are now, and all those guys left.

591
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: All those guys left in total, not just from the offense,

592
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: but in total, there were eight guys from last year's

593
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: team that got drafted. That's a huge blow to any team.

594
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't care who you are. Don't care if you're Alabama,

595
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're Georgia, I don't care if

596
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: you're Ohio State. Losing eight guys to the league's problem. Sure,

597
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: that's a problem. And I think layered on top of

598
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: that is the fact that defensively, even with that talent,

599
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: they still gave up four hundred and twenty eight yards

600
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: per game over thirty points per game. It's their worst

601
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: output DAN since the Woodrow Wilson administration, if you can

602
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: believe that. Nineteen seventeen. I looked for that.

603
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: Not great.

604
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: So you know, it's kind of like good news bad

605
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: news for Florida looking forward. The good news is that

606
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: they had a good season last year, and they were

607
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: very close. They had their moments, little bit of lumpiness

608
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: here and there.

609
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: And they closed the gap against Georgia, which I guess

610
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: Georgia fans got tired of hearing and then Florida actually

611
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: closed the gap.

612
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, correct. Good news is that they had a

613
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: really good season. Dan Mullen was able to assemble the pieces,

614
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: was able to get that offense cranking, and they were

615
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: fun to watch. The bad news now is part of

616
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: the I guess appeal part of the question. As we

617
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: move forward into twenty twenty one, Florida has the fewest

618
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: number of returning starters in the SEC. So what's the

619
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: appeal of the appeal? Is new faces and I'm damn

620
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: curious to know what the offense is going to look like.

621
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: Dan Mullen's system, we know is adaptable. That's part of

622
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: his appeal as a coach. But they're just different types

623
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: of players out there now. Emory Jones, who is presumed

624
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: to be the starter, is I mean a high profile

625
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: recruit you will call that was a big deal with

626
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: Dan Boden. He's had time on the field in packages. Yeah,

627
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: he's been waiting his turn. He didn't transfer out, he's

628
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: been waiting his turn behind Kyle Trask. But Kyle Trask

629
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: and Emory Jones are totally different dudes. They just play

630
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: different kinds of football. They're just different players altogether. And

631
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: so what can Dan Mullen do with Emory Jones. I

632
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: recall at the time that he flipped from I think

633
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: Ohio State, if memory serves that, one of the talking

634
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: points was, Oh, this is this is a Mullen guy.

635
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: This is Emory Jones is a Mullen guy. He's a

636
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: Mullen quarterback. What does that mean. I don't know.

637
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: We haven't seen him much. Seem a little bit mobile,

638
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: can run strong. You know, There's been a lot of

639
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: sort of sturdy Dan Mullen quarterbacks in his system. I

640
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: think we all remember Chris Ralph, of course, and then

641
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: I guess t Bowen, Dak Prescott. So the good news

642
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: about Emery Jones is I think I think the offensive

643
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: line should be okay, and Jacob Copeland Xavier Henderson I

644
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: believe should be their best two receivers, and they're pretty promising.

645
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: And I think they get DeMarcus Bowman right, the Clemson

646
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: transfer at running back, So there's enough there there. There'll

647
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: be enough guys rotating at running back that to command

648
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: attention away from Emery Jones and sort of open things

649
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: up if the offense is built around Emory Jones properly,

650
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: and Jones holds up his end of the bargain, So

651
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: the cupboard isn't bear, it's just it's just under experience

652
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: very much. Yeah. Correct.

653
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: The bigger question on Emery Jones is will. First off,

654
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: we don't know how that's gonna go. What the offense

655
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: is going to look like with him and not him

656
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: as a change of pace quarterback right. More broadly, we

657
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: don't know if it's gonna be him at the end

658
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: of the year because there's a kid Nut and a

659
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: Del Rio waiting in the wings and Anthony Richardson. Yeah,

660
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 2: so there are talented guys behind him that could potentially

661
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: make a push. The offense is going to look different.

662
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: They're gonna need help from the line. You're high on

663
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: the line, but I.

664
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: Think they're okay. They're okay. They lose their two.

665
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 2: Best blockers from a year ago and so it's gonna

666
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: take a little bit for that to form up. But

667
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 2: the appeal for me is the offense and what does

668
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: it look like now? After Kyle Trask, after Kadarius Tony,

669
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 2: after Kyle Pitts, how.

670
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: Do you not give a benefit of the doubt to

671
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: Dan Mullet. Yeah, you're right.

672
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: Defensively, I just I don't know, Like, I have a

673
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: really hard time over looking Florida from a defensive standpoint

674
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 2: because there's always just so much talent. But they are

675
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 2: really inexperienced upfront and in the back. They're good at linebacker,

676
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: but on the leading edge and on the back edge

677
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: there is an experienced question. If they could coach them up,

678
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: they'll be fine, right, But I don't know if we

679
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: know enough at this point to just commit to that,

680
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to, so I have real questions

681
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 2: about both offense and defense. But other than that, yeah,

682
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: other than that, right, they're great. They have a couple

683
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: of like legit dudes on the defense, but it's not

684
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: legit dude units. And I'm uncomfortable saying dude units right

685
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: now as I say it out loud.

686
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: True, but it's true. Kyrie Elam's really good. But like,

687
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: what does the rest of the secondary look like? I

688
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: know they have a linebacker I forget his name, that

689
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: that should be really good. Once again, but what does

690
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: the rest of the corps look like? I mean, it's yeah, exactly.

691
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: It's individuals right now that we're confident in, not the

692
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: full landscape.

693
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: And so the thing for Florida is you talk about

694
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: all those factors and then you look at the schedule.

695
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 2: They draw both Bama and LSU. LSU on the road

696
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: from the west, which is not easy. LSU is going

697
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: to be better. The schedule is spaced out pretty well,

698
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: but they also play Florida State to close out the season.

699
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: You know, no one's super high on Florida State, but

700
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: who knows with Mackenzie Milton what that game ends up

701
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: looking like. Towards the latter half of the year. They've

702
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: got a potential trap game against Missoo the week before

703
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: the Florida State game. And I think if you are

704
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: looking at this in terms of the over under, you're

705
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: seeing Vegas has them at nine. I would not want

706
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: to take that bet. Okay, I would now want to

707
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: take that bet. Because then there's also Georgia the cocktail party,

708
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: which we talked about earlier. So folks are taking the

709
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: over here and I don't get it. I would not

710
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: want it. I think Bama and Georgia are going to

711
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: be two losses right away. I feel like LSU's loss

712
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: too road game.

713
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you have Bama Georgia, LSU, there's your nine. Yeah,

714
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: those are three losses. What is the likeliest fourth loss

715
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: on this schedule. I don't know. I don't see that

716
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: fourth loss. I might just completely stay away. I guess

717
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: it's at Kentucky. But here's my point. Here's my point. Yeah,

718
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I don't know if the

719
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: fourth loss is obvious. But a with so much turnover

720
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: to even have a chance at hitting the over, you

721
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: have to assume no slip ups, which is a lot

722
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: in an SEC schedule. And secondly, if we feel pretty

723
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: confident about the fact that Bama, Georgia and LYC were

724
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: all going to be losses, that still only gets you

725
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: to nine. Why you bet in the over if the

726
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: best you could do is a draw a push, why

727
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: betting the over at all? Don't take that bet. Do

728
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: not take that bet. The reason you bet the over

729
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: is because.

730
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: You're a Florida fan or in alum I don't know,

731
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: but don't take that over. It's a dumb bet.

732
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: The reason you take the over is they did just

733
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: beat Georgia. They had a really good shot at beating LSU,

734
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: and they play both of those teams again and.

735
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: Don't take that bet. Don't take the bet.

736
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: Then full take season with Emory Jones. Take the bet

737
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: even if they go over. It's a really tough trigger

738
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: to pull right now in.

739
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: August, don't take don't take that bet. So I am.

740
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: I am very curious about Florida. I'm very interested in

741
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: the Florida Gators should.

742
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: Be a great watch, mostly because they're gonna give I

743
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: think they're gonna give some points back on defense.

744
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of shootouts, is what it's

745
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: going to be. But it will be a fun TV show,

746
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: much like Georgia. I think george will be a good

747
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: TV show. If we're talking about steering into college football

748
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: as a TV product, Georgia and Florida are gonna be

749
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: fun as hell. That game between the two is going

750
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: to be fun as hell on Halloween weekend cocktail party.

751
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, depending on who's healthy. A receiver matched up with

752
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: Kyrie Elam should be great. Where you want to go next?

753
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: I guess we opened with a reference to Chris Rodriguez.

754
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Let's go Kentucky, Kentucky. Huh Yeah?

755
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: Five and six a year ago a really tough year

756
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: for the Wildcats and this, but most Kentucky years are odd.

757
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: Most Kentucky years are odd. But you know, we talk

758
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: about the twenty twenty COVID year a lot. We did

759
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: a whole mini series on that, which some of you

760
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: even listened to correct and it it it like it.

761
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: The way that this affected schools was very nuanced and

762
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: very difficult for so many of these guys to compute,

763
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: to comprehend, to move on from. Kentucky in particular, had

764
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: a rough time of it because COVID wiped out their

765
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 2: entire spring after five practices in May. They had Chris Oates,

766
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: a promising linebacker, suffer a stroke. It nearly killed him.

767
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: They had their long time offensive line coach John Schlarman

768
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: pass away after an extended battle cancer in mid November,

769
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 2: and then after that they had to try and play

770
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: and they got handed like they got killed. They lost

771
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: by sixty two Alabama a couple was it nine days

772
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: after the death of coach Schlarman. And then a week

773
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 2: after that they had to play against Florida. They lost

774
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: handily to Florida, but they were down even more players

775
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 2: and coaches. So it's just like it kind of came

776
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: off to swivel. And to that extent, I have a

777
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: really hard time really taking it too seriously. Kentucky had

778
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: to go through a lot last season, full stop, just

779
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: to get this thing going. In terms of the on

780
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: field product, once they were on the field, they had

781
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: the running game figured out on both sides of the ball.

782
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: Passing different story. We won't talk so much about what

783
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 2: they did from the passing man department. They weren't good

784
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 2: at throwing it. They weren't good at stopping other teams

785
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: throwing it. Just wasn't their thing. Last year, Terry Wilson

786
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: was back. He's a fun guy to root for. I

787
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: think we all liked Terry Wilson a great deal. Just

788
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: wasn't a great passer. Wasn't a great passer. And I

789
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: was looking at my air yard statistics, you know, I'm

790
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: into that the leading receiver had four point six air

791
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: yards per OH target, which is really low, even if

792
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: you're a possession guy, even if you're coming out of

793
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: the backfield, that's a really low number. Yeah, And so

794
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: I credit Mark Stoops for looking at that and saying,

795
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: we got to figure something out here. We got to

796
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: figure out a way to get more creative, generate more

797
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: explosion plays. If we can do that and keep the

798
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: running attack where it was. Now we're talking now, we're

799
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: talking more balance on offense because the defense is steady.

800
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 2: The defense had quality players at all three levels. They

801
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: do lose a bunch two really at each level of

802
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: the defense going into twenty one, so it'll be interesting

803
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: to see how they fill the gaps. We can talk

804
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: about that here momentarily, but I think just a tough

805
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: year for Kentucky across the board, and if nothing more,

806
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: I think Mark Stoops had an epiphany that he needed

807
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: to change things up and hopefully modernize the offense in

808
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: a way that it hadn't been previously.

809
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: So I think Liam Cohene comes in with like a

810
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: really interesting strong reputation as being a smart offensive dude

811
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: who's now running that offense.

812
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: He does, he does, Yes, he does. But you know

813
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: there's a lack of experience there.

814
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: Well, it's not just a lack of experience, it's like, hey,

815
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: the quarterback is going to be a bigger, stronger dude

816
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: who has questions about his ability to throw the ball consistently,

817
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: which one am I talking about? Ty, Yeah, exactly about

818
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Wi Levis or we're talking about Joe Gatewood. Yeah, I

819
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: think we're.

820
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: Talking about Will Levis. I think Will Levis is the

821
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: presumed starter. So they're installing a new offense, they're making

822
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: the switch. They get Liam Cullen over. He's a thirty

823
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: five year old former assistant for Sean McVay with the

824
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: La Rams. What Mark Stutz is trying to do is

825
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: particularly revamped the quarterback and wide receiver position. They just

826
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 2: have not gotten enough from those position groups in terms

827
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: of the passing attack. So first things first, they went

828
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: out and they bring over Will Levis. Will the thrill

829
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: if you will, words have a meaning, Ty from Penn State.

830
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: Will was thrilling when they brought him in last year

831
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: in spots.

832
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: In spots, there's.

833
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: More of their their change of pace quarterback.

834
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: Did he change the pace?

835
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 2: He's a tank running the football. He's a big kid

836
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: and he runs hard. I just as a passer. If

837
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: we're talking about revamping and going more vertical and improving

838
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: upon four and a half air yards per target, Will

839
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 2: Levis is not the first name that comes to mind.

840
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: I hope we are against man coverage. Was sixteen?

841
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: Okay? Continue, James Franklin used him primarily as a runner

842
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: last year. Now even still, is he better than Terry

843
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: Wilson as a thrower? I think I hope. I don't know, Okay,

844
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if If you are a Kentucky fan,

845
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: your hope is that he's better in that department for sure.

846
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: But you do need to temper your expectations here because

847
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of Will Levis. Do not expect

848
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: him to come in there and start dropping dimes. His

849
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: game is not as a precision passer. He's a bull

850
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: who can run, and because of that running threat can

851
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: catch you off guard with the pass. That's been my

852
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: evaluation of him. That doesn't mean it's not an upgrade,

853
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: but that's what you get with will Levis. You couple

854
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: that with what they did at the receiving position, which

855
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: I have no questions about bringing over Wandale Robinson from

856
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: Nebraska's great Wandale Robinson is from the state of Kentucky.

857
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: While he was at Nebraska, they used him a bunch

858
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: of different ways because of versatility. William Cohen's on the

859
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: record saying he wants to use him as more of

860
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: a pure slot receiver. Doesn't want him be a gadget

861
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: guy he wants to use.

862
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: And they have the running back. It's not like they

863
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: need that production at running back with Chris Rodriguez and

864
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: what Smoke is back.

865
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Right, Cavasier Smoke, great name. So I think Wandale can

866
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: have a huge impact here and I'm excited to see

867
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: how they use him and if he can link up

868
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: with Levis or whoever the quarterback is running back at

869
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: Tiget's very strong with Christopher Rodriguez, with Cavasier Smoke, even

870
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: despite the fact that a seam rose has gone. If

871
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: Cohen could figure out a way to establish balance here,

872
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: this could be a pretty good offense. They have the

873
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: pieces in place. I'm excited about that. But I am

874
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: not going to jump the gun here. There are a

875
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: lot of factors that you just have to wait and see. Man,

876
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: you're such a politically astute person for not just saying

877
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: Kentucky can't throw the ball, and I don't know that

878
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: they have a quarterback who can throw the ball. And

879
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: it's a bummer because Wandell Robinson is really good at

880
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: catching and running with the ball. Yeah, that's a really

881
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: simple way. I have a bad tendency to insert too

882
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: many words.

883
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's just and and look at them worried

884
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: about your calves for dancing around that reality as vigorously

885
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: as you have been.

886
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: They had trouble throwing the ball. That does not mean

887
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: they won't improve this season, Okay, And that's what I'm

888
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 2: hopeful for. I'm hopeful that Liam Cohen can put this together.

889
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: It was seen as kind of a brazen move to

890
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: go out and get this guy, and in some of

891
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 2: the preview content that I read, they raved about the interview.

892
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: He came in with a very clear vision for what

893
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: he thought the offense could be. And oh yeah, that

894
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: was impressive to Mark Stoops. Now can he put that

895
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 2: into motion? I don't know. I don't know if Will

896
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: Levis is going to be an effective trigger man for that,

897
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: but we'll see.

898
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: You haven't watched enough of him at Penn State. All

899
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: due respect, I wat, I kind of have you watched

900
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: Will Evis? And look, I don't know Will Levis. I

901
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: have nothing against Will Evis. I hope he succeeds, and

902
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: I hope I'm I love we should just do a

903
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: show about like we hope we're wrong. But I didn't

904
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: really watch the Penn State offense with him in and say, man,

905
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: some team is getting that arm. Holy hell, are they lucky?

906
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean he was seen in spots last year

907
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: as an upgrade over Sean Clifford. That's not always a

908
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: compliment because Sean Clifford had had some pretty dark times

909
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: last year.

910
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

911
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't know the will Levis thing. I'm not as

912
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: bullish perhaps as the Kentucky staff because I saw a

913
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: lot of will Levis. But maybe they will put him

914
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: in a position to succeed and it just real quick

915
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: to close the loop. Defensively, they do have some holes

916
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 2: to plug. I mentioned they lose two big timers pretty

917
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: much at all three levels of the defense. They did

918
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: bring over Jaques Jones from Ole Miss, who was Ole

919
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: Miss's leading tackler. He can bolster that linebacking corps. The

920
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: theme of the defense though is that they've got basically

921
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: two big guns at all three levels that they need

922
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: to try and plug gaps with. And you know, the

923
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: recruiting has been very strong in general. I'd say, oh

924
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: Stoops has been super impressive on the trail. It's been

925
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 2: really strong. I have questions about the defensive line though,

926
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: you know, can he can he assemble the parts in

927
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: a way that doesn't give too much against an SEC

928
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: that I the SEC, at least that side of the

929
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: SEC is not going to be predicated on the pass.

930
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 2: These are gonna be teams that want to run.

931
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: So by the way, I just I pulled up Kentucky

932
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: schedule not to get ahead. What are your thoughts there?

933
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeahs October, LSU and Mississippi. I said it at the top.

934
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: They've got Florida, They've got LSU, and they've got a

935
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: road tilt against Georgia in three straight weeks in early.

936
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a bye before Mississippi State, which is also there.

937
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they close out against Louisville. Who knows

938
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: what we get from Louisville is here, So it's not

939
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: It's not the easiest slate. I think I can find

940
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: six wins on here without trying too hard. The over

941
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: under is currently at seven. Most people are crushing the over.

942
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: I would not want to be one of those people,

943
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: because I would take the under happily. There are too

944
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: many unknowns with the new offense, and you know transfers

945
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: coming over, like, even if it works, these things take time.

946
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: Seven's a lot for me. Seven's a lot. Six I'm

947
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: okay with, but seven seven we're starting to like feel

948
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: uncomfortable about things.

949
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: So now I hope it works.

950
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: I hope it works because a Kentucky offense that is

951
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: a little bit more astute in the passing game makes

952
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: things very interesting in the SEC East, especially against teams

953
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: like Florida. Like, let's be real about it. I have

954
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: Kentucky can put a defense together, and if they can

955
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: somehow stretch the field like Florida's defense is gettable. Ty

956
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: hilden Brant with a thirty eight inch vertical makes him

957
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: a super intriguing dunker, but he doesn't have it. Moving on,

958
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: where do we want to go next?

959
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: Uh, let's go to a team with an coach. Let's

960
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: go to Tennessee. Because we can also talk South Carolina

961
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: and Vandy with that, but like, let's go to Tennessee

962
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: and let's talk about the positives to be taken. Let's

963
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: let's look at Tennessee optimistically, not in terms of how

964
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: many games they can realistically win, but like, okay, here

965
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: here are some good things. Because the unfortunate things have

966
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: mounted up for the balls.

967
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: I won't harp on the unfortunate things, but just okay.

968
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: For context, three and seven year ago, they wanted to

969
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: go to a bowl. Their team got wiped out with COVID.

970
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 2: They ended up firing Jeremy Pruitt because of an internal investigation. Yeah,

971
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: Phil Fulmer ended up stepping aside in the wake of

972
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: all that. Yeah, so it did not end well. They

973
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: weren't very good. You could blame the quarterback, you can

974
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: all like all sorts of things. You're terrible against the

975
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: pass on defense. There were a lot of reasons why

976
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: it was bad at Tennessee, but it was bad and

977
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: they are starting over again. That's the appeal. The appeals

978
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: that they're starting over with Josh Hipel from UCF because

979
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: Fullmer stepped aside. They needed a new a new idea. Yeah, well,

980
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: Filmer was only there like three years. I think it

981
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: was only there three years. We've been to Tennessee forever

982
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: and some points last time vall in some capacity. Yeah,

983
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: Danny White, the new ad comes over from UCF. His

984
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: first move was the hire of the football coach from

985
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: UCF and Josh Hipel. Right here is why if you're

986
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: a Tennessee fan you should be excited about this. I'm ready,

987
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what the results in the field are

988
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: going to be. I have no idea, but not for me.

989
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: But but this is going to be a much much

990
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: different offense than you saw a year ago. It's a

991
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: much different offense. Hypel runs the NASCAR offense. It's it's

992
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 2: up tempo, it's no huddle, it's quick. It's an offense

993
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: that doesn't bring back much in the way of starting talent.

994
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: That may be a good thing. Yeah, and so it's

995
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: an offense that is certainly going to put receivers more

996
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: in focus. It's an offense that should generate some thousand

997
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 2: yard guys. We'll see. But I think, as at least

998
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 2: a starting point and from the offensive standpoint, it's just

999
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: gonna be different. It's just going to be different. I

1000
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: like the fact that if you're a Tennessee fan, you

1001
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: have something completely new, a blank slate that you can

1002
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: at least get excited about. That being said, it's been

1003
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: a blank slate at Tennessee a couple times over the

1004
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: last decade. Now, Yeah, who's starting at quarterback for this

1005
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: blank slate? I think I think it's going to be

1006
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: Hendon Hooker.

1007
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: Okay, over Joe Milton and whoever else. Harrison Bailey. Yeah,

1008
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: I would pick Hendon Hooker.

1009
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: I don't love those guys. Supposedly it's close, Okay, I

1010
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: find that hard to believe. Personally.

1011
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: I don't think Joe Milton's very close close Between Oh

1012
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 1: Hooker and Joe Milton, I don't.

1013
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: Think Joe Milton's that good. He missed a lot of

1014
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: throws from Michigan last year. Sure, so I would go

1015
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 2: Hendon Hooker. But you're right, Harrison Bailey is still there,

1016
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: who came in as a highly touted Brian Moore is

1017
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: still in there. He's played some as well. We'll see

1018
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: what that ends up being. I do like Jalen Hyatt

1019
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: a lot out wide. I think he stands to benefit

1020
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: from this system a great deal, provided they can get

1021
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: that quarterback position set.

1022
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could see some of the clips in the spring.

1023
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: Granted it's the spring, but they were really bombing at

1024
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: downfield to be Yeah, some sort of concerted effort at

1025
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: an offensive identity around explosive pass place, which I think

1026
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: is super smart, absolutely good, Absolutely so.

1027
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: I like that. I think that's smart. I'm curious to

1028
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: see again how this team is able to function with

1029
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: a new offense and given the fact that a lot

1030
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: of guys transferred out. Yeah, they had some guys transfer in.

1031
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: But as we move over to the defensive side of

1032
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: the ball, they lose Henry tou O too, who goes

1033
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: over to Alabama. The linebacker, they lose Kavarious Crouch who

1034
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: goes up Michigan. We talked about him on the Big

1035
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 2: Tennis Show that we did, Like, those are two big losses.

1036
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: And with a new defensive coordinator coming over from Penn State,

1037
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: Tim Banks, you'll be surprised to hear he wants to

1038
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,959
Speaker 2: be more aggressive, Dan, they all want to be more I.

1039
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: Want to hear your full recap of the Kevin Steele

1040
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: era at Tennessee for like the three and a half

1041
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: weeks he was brought in as an undetermined defensive coach

1042
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: and advisor. Yeah, that's where I'm looking for here.

1043
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: I think I think depth will be a concern on

1044
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: defense and how Tim Banks works with that, how Tim

1045
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 2: Tim Banks works at all, frankly, is going to be

1046
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: a question.

1047
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: People like Tim Banks.

1048
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: He's a good recruiter. There's just not a lot to

1049
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 2: go on though, on what his defense is going to

1050
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: look like. And so I don't I don't really have

1051
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: an honest assessment that I can give there because I

1052
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: don't know what that's going to look like. He was

1053
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: an assistant at Penn State for a number of years. Look,

1054
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: they're going deep. They're hopeful that the quarterback is good

1055
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: at going deep and doesn't get hurt behind what I

1056
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: assume is a patchwork line. So they have like it's

1057
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: forty percent Maze right, it's cade May's next to his

1058
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: brother the Georgia transfer, So hopefully they work out well

1059
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: and you know they're going to.

1060
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Hope to surprise somebody A forty nine forty two.

1061
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 2: I think that's right. The offense is new, it'll be

1062
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: more up tempo. The defense I think is thin. They've

1063
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: got some talent, of course at Tennessee, but it is thin.

1064
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 2: And you know it's it's either you take that optimistic

1065
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: view of it or you get super pessimistic about the

1066
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: fact that they had twenty players leave the program and

1067
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: transfer out, including toe O Too, Crouch, Eric Gray ty

1068
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: Chandler Jamir Johnson along the line Guaran Tano, who I

1069
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: don't know if any of us are that excited about

1070
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 2: getting Guarantano on our teams. Maybe Wazoo is JT. Shroud

1071
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: also left the program. So it's like any time you

1072
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: got the new coach, you have a lot of turnover.

1073
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: You could certainly take a pessimistic view of things. I

1074
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: will choose to not do that. I will choose to

1075
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: say instead, if you're a Tennessee fan, the new up

1076
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: Temple offense should be fun to watch.

1077
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: They might give up one hundred points to the Florida

1078
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: Miszoo one two.

1079
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: Florida Miszoo won too. They get Ole Miss and Bama

1080
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: from the West back to back, when they might give

1081
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: up one hundred to those two teams as well. They

1082
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: get them on back to back weeks. Yeah, they play

1083
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 2: pit in week two, which is a weird like non

1084
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: conference game that I'm actually kind of excited to see.

1085
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: I think it will be an early bell weather for Tennessee.

1086
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: They go to Florida their home against Georgia. I'll give

1087
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 2: them five wins. I'll give them five wins. That may

1088
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: be generous, but five six wins maybe they could push for.

1089
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: Haven't there been I feel like there have been at

1090
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: least two quarterbacks who have transferred from Tennessee to Pitt.

1091
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: Nate Peterman transfer from Tennessee to Pitt there is that

1092
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 1: weird I'm forgetting the other I actually met the other

1093
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: guy's dad at the Elite eleven in like twenty twelve.

1094
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: Chad voy tick Tie who also wow Tennessee. Yeah, so

1095
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: there is that connection between Tennessee and Pitt. There is

1096
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 1: that connection. Pitt might score thirty five against Tennessee, which

1097
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: is crazy. Taylor Swift invisible string.

1098
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania, Tennessee. Okay, I like it. Where shall we go next?

1099
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to South Carolina. New coach, new coach, knew everything.

1100
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to harp on the bad stuff. I

1101
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: won't harpen the bad stuff. They went two and eight

1102
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: and wol Mushamp got fired. They were led by Kevin Harris,

1103
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: who ran for over eleven hundred yards and eleven touchdowns.

1104
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: Shane Biemer is a new coach at South Carolina. He

1105
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 2: is a familiar name to South Carolina. He did coach

1106
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 2: under Steve Spurrier. Of course, you know him mostly because

1107
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: of his dad, Frank Beemer, whom he also did coach

1108
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: under for a brief period of time as a running

1109
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: backs coach. He has a lot of coaching experience, it's

1110
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: just not as a head coach and that's part of

1111
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: the intrigue here. I think that's part of the intrigue.

1112
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: Can he assemble the pieces around him? Can he put

1113
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: together a staff? I don't know, don't know. He's a

1114
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: high energy guy.

1115
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: He's a special tie Mike Bobo and lost Mike Bobo,

1116
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: depending on how you feel about the behind the scenes machinations. Machinations. Yeah,

1117
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: that was a quick, weird couple weeks weird.

1118
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: It was weird. But he was most recently at Oklahoma

1119
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: under Lincoln Riley. He's coached under some really good coaches.

1120
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: Can he come over and replicate that? I don't know. Now.

1121
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: Luke Dody is going to be the starting quarterback. They're

1122
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: really high on him. If this offense improves, it's going

1123
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: to be not because of Doty, it's because they get

1124
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: production at quarterback and they're able to hand it off

1125
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: to Kevin Harris or Marshall and Lloyd their freshman running

1126
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: back that they're very excited about. The line has four

1127
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: guys back. I think we're going to see a lot

1128
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: of work for the running game this year. That's where

1129
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: this is going in the short term. Doesn't mean there

1130
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: won't be creativity. Doty is a very athletic guy. He's

1131
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: a converted wide out. But I think that is going

1132
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: to be the real bedrock of this offense if it's

1133
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: going to come together, handing the ball off to either

1134
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: Harris or Lloyd Okay. Defensively, a lot of talent, Zach Pickens,

1135
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: Jordan Birch. Outside of that, they lose Ernest Jones, they

1136
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: lose Jamie Robinson. I want to and this was defense

1137
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: last year, the defense, and that's that's sort of the catch, right,

1138
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: And that's kind of why if you sense hesitation, they

1139
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: lose some great talent from that defense that was really bad.

1140
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: J C. Horn was a high draft pick. Of course,

1141
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: both of the secondary itself was really nice. Yeah, but

1142
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: the defense stunk.

1143
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: And that's part of like the I don't know, the

1144
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: confusion and certainly part of why I think much Champ

1145
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: got let go. So, you know, I don't think talent

1146
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: is the problem. I think assembling the pieces, establishing the

1147
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: culture and you know, figuring out how to do it

1148
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: as a first time head coach is really the pure

1149
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: intrigue for me from a South Carolina standpoint, the schedule's brutal.

1150
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: There's no wiggle room for Shane Beemer. In year one,

1151
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: it's a twenty second hardest schedule in college football. They

1152
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: draw A and M in Auburn from the West. They

1153
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: got to go to Georgia in week three. They're home

1154
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: against Florida to start in November. They close out the

1155
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: year listening to this in November Florida at MISSOO, Auburn

1156
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: and Clemson. That is not an easy stretch if you're

1157
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: Shane Biemer, if you're trying to build something new at

1158
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: South Carolina. So I think my overall takeaway here is

1159
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: that Beamer Ball two point oh Beamer Ball twenty twenty one.

1160
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: However we're categorizing this, it is going to be largely

1161
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: on the shoulders of Kevin Harris and Marshaun Lloyd, largely

1162
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: behind a line that is very experienced and brings back

1163
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: four guys. The defensive line has talent. We'll see how

1164
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: it materializes and everything else. The little guy that you

1165
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: can draw that I did draw in our latest newsletter,

1166
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: like the Ascy guy shrugging like, ah, don't know, we'll see.

1167
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about South Carolina.

1168
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: I think if there's by and they can get to

1169
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: six and six in a bowl game, I think if

1170
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: there's legit buy in and everybody's on the same page,

1171
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: and both the new coordinators resonate with their players and

1172
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: install a scheme that makes sense and that sort of

1173
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: works out, and that there's a clear cohesive plan and identity.

1174
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: I think they can go to a bowl game. It's

1175
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, Eastern Illinois, East Carolina. You know, we have

1176
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: Kentucky in transition at quarterback, Troy who's pretty good but

1177
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: still the Sun Belt team, Tennessee and deep transition, and

1178
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: Auburn in transition. So there are teams to be had.

1179
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: They have Auburn at home and beat Auburn last year.

1180
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: That can be had. But I really think with all

1181
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: those moving pieces, it needs to really come together and

1182
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: come together quickly.

1183
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: Three and a half is a Vegas over under, So.

1184
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: I might take it three and a half. Are you sure?

1185
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1186
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 1: South Carolina is looked at as like an either three

1187
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: and nine or four and eight team.

1188
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: Three and a half.

1189
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: Eastern Illinois, East Carolina up Kentucky to me, because that's

1190
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: at home. Troy is tricky, that's four. Tennessee Vanderbilt, maybe

1191
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: grab Auburn that's seven. Most people are taking the over

1192
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: for what it's worth. I would take that over. That

1193
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: number almost seems wrong, but I trust you.

1194
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: Three and a half. No, I'm just gonna okay, three

1195
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: and a half, all right. Tough schedule though it's tough,

1196
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: It's for sure tough.

1197
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: But you know there's a big if there. I'm more

1198
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: optimistic about South Carolina than Tennessee at this moment. Who's

1199
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: left Vandy Vandy? Mmmm, let's be Vandy dandies.

1200
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: Oh is that a thing?

1201
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: No? Absolutely, not all ever should be. I apologize.

1202
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: Oh to nine bad across the board? Last year fired

1203
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: Derek Mason. Their offensive line depleted by COVID defense was terrible.

1204
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 2: I mean they didn't win any games, so right, they

1205
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: weren't good. The new coaches clark Lee, they pulled them

1206
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: away from Notre Dame. He really wanted the job. It

1207
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: was an open secret for a long time that clark

1208
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: Lee was into the Vandy job. So now they got him.

1209
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're super optimistic about outside this

1210
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 2: being a fresh start. Ken Seals was decent. He looked

1211
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: okay at quarterback. They're freshman quarterback?

1212
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: Mm hm, Ken Sale chevrolete. Did we give him a

1213
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: car dealership? We shave him a car dealership in a

1214
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: car dealership.

1215
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I think you are if you're a

1216
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: Vandy person, I think your cause here for optimism is

1217
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: the fact that Clark Lee knows the program. He really

1218
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: wanted this job. He's wanted this job for a long time.

1219
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: He's truly one of the smartest, most up and coming

1220
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: coaches in college football, and the fact that he wanted

1221
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: this job the way that he did is significant. I

1222
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: am dancing around the fact that I don't think they're

1223
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: going to be very good again. They do have seventeen

1224
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: guys back, which is good. It's a starting point, but

1225
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: as they install the stuff, it remains to be seen

1226
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: how much that's even going to matter. They get Mississippi

1227
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: State and Ole Miss from the West. They've got the

1228
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: Academic Bowl against Stanford in Week three home against Georgia

1229
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: at Florida. It's not an impossible schedule from an SEC standpoint,

1230
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: but from a Vanderbilt standpoint, it's very difficult.

1231
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: So the Yukon game is their super Bowl. The Yukon

1232
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: games are super Bowl. I think there will be which

1233
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: between Georgia and Florida. Yeah, I think there will be improvement.

1234
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: I think there will be improvement because I do trust

1235
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: in Clarkly a great deal. I think he's an excellent coach.

1236
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: I think you will find a way to get that

1237
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: defense playing really, really, really well. And this has been

1238
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: a Clerkly thing. Cuarkly doesn't always have superstars on defense,

1239
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: but he does know how to get the most out

1240
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: of his guys, and so I think that aspect of

1241
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: it will will certainly play well at Vanderbilt in terms

1242
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: of building a winning pro like, the SEC East is

1243
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: getting better across the board, Florida and Georgia are very

1244
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: nearly there. Who knows what Tennessee but can Tucky's trying

1245
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: to revamp things Missoo.

1246
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 2: We still have to talk about misso We didn't talk

1247
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 2: about Missoo yet.

1248
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: No, we didn't talk about Missoo. We'll get there. I

1249
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: almost take a little bit of issue saying the SEC

1250
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: East is getting better, like Kentucky, South Carolina and Tennessee

1251
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: are at the moment in a bit of mud, right.

1252
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: So if that's the that's the class that Vandy is

1253
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: looking to ascend to in terms of being competitive with

1254
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: the middle of the SEC East. Now, I think MISSOO

1255
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: is more interesting, But yeah, I think it's a good

1256
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: time to be a new coach at Vandy. And by

1257
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: the way, you talk about the talent and building things.

1258
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: Who did he hire to run player personnel a college

1259
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: football podcaster, Yeah, Barton Simmiths, Art and Simmons. It's right who.

1260
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: He goes way back with the Vandy So if you

1261
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: are bullish on Vandy, that's terrific, But you're bullish on

1262
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Like, there's not really a conversation we

1263
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: had right now about Commodore football.

1264
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: They're gonna have two wins this year. They're gonna two wins. Yeah,

1265
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: that's the kind of season we're looking at. But if

1266
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: Clark Lee can change everyone says they want to change

1267
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 2: the culture, but if he can put his style of

1268
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: culture in there, great. They likes Fandy a lot. He

1269
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: wanted the job, and as I said time and again

1270
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: about Brian Kelly when he took the Notre Dame job,

1271
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of value in that. So

1272
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: we'll see.

1273
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what does it take to win at

1274
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: Vandy be associated with a school that ty hild and

1275
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: Brandt roots for James Franklin and Clark Lee. Here we are.

1276
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, By the way. Apologies to Maszoo fans

1277
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: when you said who's left and I said, I guess

1278
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: just Vandy, who probably got very angry. I want to

1279
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: talk about Let's talk about about Miszoo. Yeah, Miszoo went

1280
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: five and five last year. It was year one of

1281
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: the ELI Drinkwood zero. They beat LSU in their third game,

1282
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: which at the time we didn't really know what we

1283
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: had with LSU. LSU didn't have a smoked LSU and

1284
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: got smoked at the same time. Yeah, exactly.

1285
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 2: And it wasn't a great It was a solid year,

1286
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: but he made the most of it because the defense

1287
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 2: was really inefficient. They had a star in Nick Bolton,

1288
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: your guy, my guy, but it was like he can

1289
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: only do so much. The games that they lost, they

1290
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: really lot it, really lost. They got killed. They did

1291
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: it right, But it almost does not matter to me

1292
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 2: because he found his quarterback. He found his quarterback. Sure, Beslac.

1293
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: How many big time coaching hires have been ruined at

1294
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: their new coaching spot because they have not found a quarterback.

1295
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: It's true, totally right.

1296
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: Connor Bezlack is his quarterback. He found his quarterback. He

1297
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: completed sixty seven percent of his passes he needs to

1298
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: clean up the picks. He needs to get better. But

1299
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: that's pretty good. And if you've got your quarterback who

1300
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: you feel good about, provided he can stay healthy, it

1301
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: makes everything easier and so at least in that sense,

1302
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: it was a really good year one for Eli Drinquitz

1303
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 2: and five and five is a good campaign. It's a

1304
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 2: good campaign given circumstances for a new coach. As we

1305
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: move forward now into year two, the appeal I think

1306
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: is obvious. The appeal is Connor beslac full off season

1307
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: now to develop under Eli Drinkwitz. It's a really good

1308
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: group of wide receivers, it's a much more experienced offensive

1309
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 2: line in front. They are trying to fix the defense.

1310
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: They brought over Steve Wilkes, who's been in the NFL forever.

1311
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 2: He's an NFL guy. He should have a good defensive

1312
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: line that he can build around. It hurts to lose

1313
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: Nick Bolton, my boy, of course, it hurts to lose him,

1314
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: but at least as a starting point, you could do

1315
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 2: worse than having a really good defensive line, which is

1316
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: I think what Steve Wilks is going to inherit here.

1317
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: So there's reason for optimism and Eli Drinkwitz is super

1318
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: high energy. He will have that team playing hard.

1319
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm relatively excited about Miszoo. I still think there's a

1320
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: talent discrepancy in the East that they're going to need

1321
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,959
Speaker 1: to continue to overcome. Drink Witz has been recruiting impressive

1322
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: all things considered. Yeah, and it's nice that Bezilac is there.

1323
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: You mentioned him and needing to sort of calm down

1324
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: a little bit with the picks and protecting the ball.

1325
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think there's there's a high enough floor

1326
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: for Miszoo that their games are going to be interesting

1327
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: and they may pick somebody off, but yeah, the defense

1328
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: is going to need to make strides in the back end,

1329
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: and I just think players are going to need to

1330
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: start popping around Basilac. Yeah, there have to. There has

1331
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 1: to be somebody that are like, okay, here's the clear

1332
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: go to here. That to me is is the big

1333
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't have their schedule in front of me, but yeah,

1334
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: well they draw I think that's that's gonna be a

1335
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: big deal.

1336
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they draw A and M in Arkansas from the West.

1337
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: They've got a road game against Boston College, which we

1338
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: called out when we did the ACC preview, which is

1339
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 2: just you know, there are some matchups like Michigan State

1340
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: Miami Tennessee pit I classify Miszoo Boston College in their

1341
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: matchups that you don't usually see. Okay, that one takes

1342
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: place the last week of September, and it should be

1343
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 2: an interesting barometer for where both programs are at. Frankly,

1344
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: Central Michigan in week one, which could actually be a

1345
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: half decent test, maybe not from a defensive standpoint, but

1346
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: maybe playoffense Kentucky in week two they go to Georgia.

1347
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 2: They're home against Florida. So it's about a middle of

1348
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 2: the road schedule, one of the under one of the

1349
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 2: tougher schedules in the SEC East, if I'm being fair,

1350
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 2: over under is.

1351
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: Seven seven games. I count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Yeah,

1352
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: about eight clearly winnable games, so I win a bowl.

1353
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: Not sure things, but yeah, I could see eight and

1354
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: four as being a realistic outcome to this team.

1355
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: Okay, most important thing is they found their quarterback. Found

1356
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: their quarterback. They found their quarterback in Connor Bezlac. Everybody's

1357
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 2: very excited about him. He needs to improve, he needs

1358
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 2: to get better, everybody does. But finding your quarterback in

1359
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: year one of a new regime that you can build

1360
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 2: around moving forward. That is just so instrumental, and I

1361
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 2: think Eli Drinkwitz is going to do a good job.

1362
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: I feel like he's going to do a good job

1363
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 2: and really excited, like you are, to see what happens

1364
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 2: here in year two. I don't know if I would

1365
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 2: go over. Seven. Seven feels about right to me. But

1366
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 2: seven and five, seven and five, full twelve game schedule

1367
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: in the SEC, that's a big deal. Year two, that's

1368
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 2: a really big deal. They're loading up.

1369
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 1: We'll see they need. They got pushed around up front

1370
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: a little bit too much last year. That was clear

1371
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: against some of the better teams that played that, like

1372
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: the talent discrepancy was so apparent, and got beat deep

1373
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: a little bit too much. But yeah, with a new coordinator,

1374
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: maybe things that become a little bit more confusing for offenses.

1375
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: I could see it if the relative strength of their

1376
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: defense is up front. Okay, I'm willing to buy them

1377
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: as a five hundred ish team that's well coached to

1378
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: seven or eight wins. We agree, Okay, talk to me

1379
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: about the sun Belt in the way who winning Georgia.

1380
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: George's wing coming out of the East, Okay talking about

1381
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: the Sunbelt East, Okay. Sunbelt East is low key one

1382
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: of the more fascinating divisions in college football. Yes, oh

1383
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: absolutely so. We have app State, both Georgia Southern and

1384
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: Georgia State who are appealing in their own ways, and

1385
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina and Troy like these are like the competence

1386
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: level of this division might be the highest in college football,

1387
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: just in terms of percentages of teams who appear to

1388
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: be competent and challenging. So I don't know where you

1389
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: want to start if you want to start with Coastal,

1390
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: who was obviously the class of this conference last year.

1391
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: And this is what we're seeing sort of across the

1392
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 1: board in among G five schools is a lot of

1393
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: super seniors taking advantage of the opportunity to come back

1394
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,799
Speaker 1: for a sixth year. Coastal basically, I mean they're replacing

1395
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: running back, but otherwise, everybody's back. Everybody's back, including most

1396
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: notably Jamie Chadwell and Grayson McCall. Grayson McCall obviously could

1397
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: not have left, considering he's a young quarterback, but the

1398
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: band is back together. Everybody's come back, essentially, so there's

1399
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: a lot to love about Coastal. The schedule is such.

1400
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they have Kansas, They're at Buffalo, so they

1401
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: have that weird lightpole one two, and they are at

1402
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: app State, but it's after a bye so the schedule

1403
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: is not terrible. If the defense can get a little

1404
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: bit more stout up front and just sort of hold

1405
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: their own watch out once again, there's every reason in

1406
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: the world to believe in Coastal Carolina doing what they

1407
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty in twenty twenty one, so that's

1408
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: good that, you know. I was trying to come up

1409
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: with like a fear of the Teal, feel the Teal.

1410
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm at with that, but I'm

1411
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: very high on the shots. So there we are. The

1412
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: thing going to go upstate Troy or one of the

1413
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: Georgia schools. What are your thoughts on Coastal? Sorry, well yeah,

1414
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: let me just throw this in about Coastal. I will

1415
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: reiterate what I said countless times towards the latter half

1416
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: of last year. Coastal is fun as hell to watch. Yeah,

1417
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: they're fun as hell to watch. The offense truly is

1418
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: all of the offenses combined into one. They do everything.

1419
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: There's not the name of the Seinfeld restaurant or chef

1420
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: who was like, we've got Chinese food, We've got pizza.

1421
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: Was it Babu?

1422
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: I forget like that. I forget, yeah, and I know Seinfeld,

1423
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: but I forget.

1424
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1425
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: But it's all of the offense. It is everything that

1426
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,799
Speaker 2: you enjoy. It is like going to a som mortgage

1427
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: board of offense. Yep, it's it's so much fun. If

1428
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: you haven't watched Coastal yet, even if you don't care

1429
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 2: about Coastal, watch a game, watch the app State game.

1430
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: That should actually be fun as hell in late October.

1431
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: But this is an offense that brings a lot back

1432
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: Because you said nine starters back, Grace McCalls back, they're

1433
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: really fun to watch on offense. You won't know what

1434
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: you're going to see next.

1435
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sort of what if an option team also

1436
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: had a sophisticated enough quarterback to throw the ball all

1437
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: over the field. All right, let's talk app State. Tell

1438
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: me about app State. App State's in a really good position.

1439
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: I mean, they had an incredible pass defense last year,

1440
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: and you know, they had experienced at quarterback and skill

1441
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: positions were great and they just kind of ran into

1442
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 1: a juggernaut. It was sort of an off year for them,

1443
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: but they're another one of those a really high floor

1444
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: within the sun Belt West situation. So the past defense

1445
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: isn't a great spot. As I mentioned that. The concern

1446
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: that I have because you look at their year last year,

1447
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 1: they allowed I think more than twenty eight points once

1448
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: all year long, they finished in the top twenty in

1449
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: points per drive allowed and scored. They're just in a

1450
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: really solid place under Sean Clark who took over. And

1451
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 1: it's a tough situation right with three head coaches in

1452
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: three years after Elied Drinkwitz left after a year. The

1453
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: concern is Chase Brice appears to be the starter at quarterback.

1454
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: Hope I'm wrong, but the turnovers last year and you know,

1455
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: maybe he's just a really good G five corester back

1456
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: and does didn't have it as a Power five guy.

1457
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: But fifteen picks six I think, lost fumbles like it's

1458
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: just it's rough. So you know, full off season comfort whatever.

1459
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: I hope everything works out for app State and Chase Brice.

1460
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: The schedule's tough because Chase Brice will, even though he's

1461
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: no longer an acc quarterback, be throwing into the Miami

1462
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: defense on the road. They're at Louisiana and Coastal at

1463
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: home in consecutive weeks. And the good news I suppose

1464
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: for app State is the deeper the hate game, deeper,

1465
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: the hete height against John I don't know what that

1466
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: word was. Hate against Georgia Southern is in boone. It's

1467
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: at home, So there's that. So app State should be

1468
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: in another nice spot, provided the turnovers aren't out of

1469
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: hand on offense to threaten nine to ten wins. Who's

1470
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: next up then? Is it Georgia State?

1471
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: Is it Troy? Like? Where do you stand in the

1472
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: remaining three teams?

1473
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: The interest in terms of interesting teams to me is

1474
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: probably Georgia Southern just because they run that option. They

1475
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 1: lost their quarterback to receiver for Louisville now Shy Wurtz,

1476
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 1: so they're starting over a quarterback. But the system's really

1477
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: tricky to play against. It's Chad Lunsford, who's been at

1478
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: Southern forever. They put forward a good defense in twenty twenty.

1479
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: They had a great shot against Louisiana on the road

1480
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: and at Army they had a dominating bowl win. Look

1481
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: they as expected for an option team. They ran the ball. Well,

1482
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: they hit some bigger passes, but not a consistent team

1483
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: through the air. But you know, the turnover margin was fantastic.

1484
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 1: You play with the ability to run the ball consistently

1485
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: and stop the ball consistently, you're gonna win a bunch

1486
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: of games. They were tied with Coastal after three quarters.

1487
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: So this is an intriguing team that has a new

1488
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: quarterback and is a very difficult system to plan for

1489
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: and play against. Justin Tomlin is the presumed new quarterback,

1490
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: and obviously, in this kind of system, quarterback seems like everything.

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01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: They're at Arkansas and have Louisiana in consecutive weeks, which

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Speaker 1: will be Tree, and they host BYU and play at

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01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: app State in consecutive weeks. So it's it's tricky, but

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Speaker 1: I could see eight nine wins here. Wow, I like

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Speaker 1: Georgia Southern.

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Speaker 2: See this is this is really interesting to me because

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01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 2: I did the other side of the Sun Belt and

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01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 2: there's one team worth talking about that Susiana. The others

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01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 2: are pretty bad. So the fact that you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Georgia Southern went eight and five last year and went

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01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: eight and five last year, and it's clear that this

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01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: side of the sun Belt is much much stronger. But

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01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 2: it's it's really really a stark contrast when you look

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01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: at these teams on paper to see what they're working

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01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 2: with compared to somebody like you know, Texas State, South

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01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: Alabama ulm Ulm is terrible. You know, we'll talk about

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01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 2: the Terry Bowden era, but there I think there's three

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01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: programs with new coaches on the western side of the

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Speaker 2: Sun Belt, so Georgia State and we'll talk about Georgia State.

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Speaker 1: Sure, talk about Sean Elliot's dudes. I mean the appeal

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01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: here for me just headline Marquee double Cornelius situation, which

1512
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: means they have a quarterback named Cornelius and a receiver

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01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: named Cornelius. Though the quarterback is a fourth so they

1514
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: call him quad so it's Quad Brown. What it was

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01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: a relatively average offense at certain stretches last year, had

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01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: some big playability. The defense was okay, had their struggles

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01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 1: sometimes rushing the passer and in the secondary. But they

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01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, as a number of these G five teams do,

1519
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: they return a ton. The super seniors are here and

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01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: ready to play. They're pretty good at the skill positions.

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01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: And I guess if Quad Brown protects the ball better.

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01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to be the story for

1523
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams that they stand a chance

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: if they don't shoot themselves in the foot. Just man,

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01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've pulled up their schedule, but

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01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: they have. Just in terms of a three week stretch.

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01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes we talk about these like tough back to backs,

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01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 1: a three weeks stretch with all road games and one

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01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: of them being short rest against maybe the best team

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01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 1: they play in that stretch, So Georgia State. I mean,

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01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: this is aside from Army and at North Carolina opening

1532
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: up the season, which presents a long list of challenges

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01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: for that defense. And this is aside from at Auburn

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01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: and Apps State and consecutive weeks Georgia Southern on the road,

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01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: Louisiana on the road short rest so a Saturday to

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01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: Thursday situation, and then at Coastal. That's tough. That's a lot.

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01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: That's a lot of to ask well.

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01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: So option or pseudo option teams sandwitching maybe the best

1539
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: team in the conference in the rage and Cagents.

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Speaker 2: Close it out.

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Speaker 1: Then let's talk about the Troy Trojans, Dan so Chip

1542
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: lindsay late addition last year or whenever he joined up

1543
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: with It was a couple of years ago now after

1544
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 1: taking the Kansas Oca job. They had an ok twenty twenty.

1545
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: They didn't really beat anybody good, but they fought well

1546
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: against Coastal and the final week came up just short

1547
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: against Georgia State, and they played Middle Tennessee twice because

1548
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: we have quirks in twenty twenty, they split those two games.

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01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee wasn't all that good. There's a ton on

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01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: offense that's back for the Trojans. They hit the transfer

1551
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 1: portal and got a couple of dudes from from like

1552
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 1: NC State in Florida State, so some higher profile Power

1553
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: five level guys. They need to run the ball better,

1554
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: They need to clean up the turnover situation. They are

1555
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: in a good place though, just because they are solid

1556
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: to be a bowl team once again. Troy obviously hit

1557
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: some really nice highs under the previous regime. But I'm

1558
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: pretty high on Troy right now because it's the competence floor.

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01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: They host Liberty, they're at South Carolina, and they do

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01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: get a bye before they have to travel to Coastal,

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01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: So all things considered, Troy's in a pretty good play Situationally,

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01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: I like them, so maybe they are seven and five

1563
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: teams something like that, but I think they're going to

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01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 1: be pretty competitive.

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01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: Alrighty, who's your pick? Then? On the eastern side, is

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01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,839
Speaker 2: it app State or is it Coastal?

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01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to go coastal. I'm going to go coastal here.

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01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: The schedule is is nice.

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01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 2: Schedule is one and twenty eighth in terms of difficulty.

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01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 2: That's in start comparison to app State, which is eighty first.

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01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm bringing up that. Those are the notes I

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01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: made about coastal schedule. But if you actually like the

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01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: their road tilts are at Buffalo at Arkansas State, all

1574
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 1: due respect to the Red Wolves, but that's after Ulm

1575
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: at app State, which will be difficult. But there's a

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01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: bye beforehand at Georgia Southern and that's sandwich between Troy

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01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: and Georgia State. So that's tricky. But I'm just very

1578
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:40,759
Speaker 1: confident right now in the shots.

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01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: That's all alrighty, Well, write in solid verbal at gmail

1580
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 2: dot com. Let us know your thoughts, let us know

1581
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 2: what we missed. We will be doing the SEC West

1582
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 2: preview this coming Wednesday, so you're gonna want to check

1583
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 2: that out. Don't forget the access off balls dot com.

1584
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, don't forget to go on out

1585
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 2: for ballers dot com. We released these shows a full

1586
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: twenty four hours early in case you're interested. Maybe not

1587
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: a big deal now, but as we get into the season,

1588
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 2: we'll be doing our preview shows early. We'll be doing

1589
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: all of our shows a little bit earlier for people

1590
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 2: who are Patreon subscribers. Soverballers dot com is where you

1591
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: can find that information.

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01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: Yep.

1593
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: Solid verbal dot Com of course, is where you can

1594
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 2: find all the web content that we've been so adamant

1595
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: about trying to put out there into the world.

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01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: Which we're excited about. Is Missouri your crush team in

1597
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: the East?

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01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 2: Missou's absolutely my crush team.

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01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: I like it. Have you been to Columbia No, it's

1600
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: a fun time now. I like to Columbia the in

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01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: game atmosphere. I went when there were still a big

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01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: twelve team. But the downtown Columbia area it's I think

1603
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: it's an underrated sec pizza town. A couple decent pizza

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01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: options in the neighborhood or in the area. I like

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01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: to callmo I'm in. I'm good with that.

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01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 2: Crush alrighty well, Daniel, let's go hydrate the vocal cords

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01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 2: here because we're going to do this again shortly and

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01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 2: do SEC West in the meantime. Though this has been fun.

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01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: It's good to talk all things SEC with you, good

1610
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: to talk all things Sunbelt East with you as well.

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01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 2: As I said, we'll be back in like two days

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01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: to talk more SEC in the meantime. For that guy

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01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 2: over there, Dan Rubenstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand, thank you

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01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: so much for downloading, for listening, for supporting. We'll talk

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01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: to you all soon.

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Speaker 1: Stay solid, Peace,