1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: with you. It's nice to have you with us, and 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: we've got a packed show for you on this Monday morning, 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: including the very sad news that is coming out of Michigan. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: An attack there on a church, a Michigan church shooting attack. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: The new numbers we have are four dead, ten wounded 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: as of when we are recording this and centered it's 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: just another tragic event we're witnessing. 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: Well. 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, this is a pattern we're seeing over and over 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: again of violent murderers attacking churches, attacking Christian schools, targeting 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: people of faith. In this case, it was the Church 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, the Mormon church 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 3: in Grand Blank Township, Michigan. A deranged man drove his 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: truck through the front of the church while the church 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: members were worshiping, open fire, murdered as you said, four dead, 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: ten injured as of right now, and also set the 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: church on fire. All of us I think today saw 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: the images of the church a flame. And at this 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: point we don't know the details, we don't know the 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: motivations of why this deranged killer targeted this church, But 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: we've seen so much hatred for people of faith. And 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: I will say right now, my prayers and I know 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: yours too, men are with all of those who are wounded, 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: that they would reach a swift recovery. Where our prayers 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: are with the families of those who were murdered, and 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: everyone in the LDS church that is really just just 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: hurting right now at this persecution. It is another manifestation 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 3: of the hate that we have seen day after day 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: after day. And I very much pray our nation gets 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: beyond this vicious hate. Yeah, no doubt. 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: And I got to say law enforcement did an unbelievable 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: job of saving lives and showing up very quickly after 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: this heinous attack began, and probably save countless lives based 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: on the number of people that were inside and center. 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: This just goes back to a really important point that 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: we have got to stop demonizing law enforcement in this country. 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: The way that Democrats have continued to do that. Ice 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: agents is a great example of what we saw last week, 40 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: because these men and women who put on a badge 41 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: every day are willing to go into situations where they 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on and save people's lives. 43 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: They did it yet again in Michigan. 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: Well, you're exactly right, and I will say in Michigan, 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: law enforcement responded within minutes, came in and took out 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: the shooter, and no doubt saved a lot of lives, 47 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: including a lot of children. And later in the podcast, 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about the consistent pattern of rhetoric 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: and demonizing law enforcement, demonizing ice that we have seen 50 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: from Democrats, and even in the face of these horrific murders, 51 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: Democrats keep ratcheting up the rhetoric and tragically that rhetoric 52 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: is in violence. We're going to lay that out in detail, 53 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: but before we do that, we're going to talk about 54 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 3: the impending Schumer shutdown. We are two days away from 55 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: the expiration of funding for the federal government, and I 56 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: believe it is highly likely that Chuck Schumer and the 57 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: Democrats will force a shutdown this Sunday. On the Sunday Shows, 58 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: the Democrats were out in force, all blaming the impending 59 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: shutdown on Donald Trump. Donald Trump, which is no surprise 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: because in their world everything is Donald Trump's fault. But 61 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: we're going to break down number one why it is 62 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: so likely that the Democrats are going to force the 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: Schumer shut down. But number two, what to expect? What 64 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: does it mean? What are the consequences of a government 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: shutdown if on midnight September thirtieth, the Democrats block funding 66 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: the government. We're going to explain it all to you 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: on today's pod. 68 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: All of you know that I am a pro Second 69 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: Amendment guide. I've shared on numerous occasions how caring my 70 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: firearms saved my life from a gang related attack. But 71 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: for those of you out there with family members who 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: may not be comfortable having a gun by their side, 73 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: you still want them to be able to protect themselves 74 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: and others in times of danger. And that's where the 75 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: Berno launcher comes in. Berna is a handheld pistol that 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: fires both kinetic rounds and chemical irritants to separate you 77 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: from an attacker. Berna is a handheld pistol that fires 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: both kinetic rounds and chemical irritants to separate you from 79 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: the attacker. I'm here today with Josh Cherard from Berna 80 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: to share the true story of how a California homeowner 81 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: used a burner launcher to stop a home intruder. Josh 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: tell us what happened. 83 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 4: You know, Bob Braid was one of the earliest adopters 84 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 4: of Berna back when we first started. He lived in 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: California in a residential suburb of la that was pretty 86 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: prone to a lot of vagrancy, a lot of homeless 87 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: walking up and down the street. He kept to Berna's 88 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: living room and one of these vagrants wandered in his home, 89 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: just confused, probably chunk and intoxicated in the wrong house. 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: Bob was able to pull his burner out, point it 91 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: out the intruder, who promptly backed out of the home 92 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: back into the yard. And of course it was all 93 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: taught on surveillance. He didn't even have to use the 94 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 4: Berna and he was able to ward off this intruder 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: in a situation that could have ended incredibly badly had 96 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: more force than used. This is a great demonstration of 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: how the lowest level of force can be used to 98 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 4: rectify a situation. And of course it was all caught 99 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: on video, which it makes for a great illustration of 100 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: how that burner can be used on a day to 101 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: day basis. 102 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people are going to say, well, 103 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: why wouldn't the homeowner just use a gun in this case? 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, One, it comes down to the legality. You know, 105 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: in this part of California, it made me very difficult 106 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: to use a gun. And then two, we saw that 107 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: this intruder literally just stumbled into the wrong home in 108 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 4: an altered state of mind. Nobody wants to kill anybody 109 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: that doesn't need killing that they absolutely don't have to. 110 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: So this is a great instance where the burner was 111 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 4: able to be used, the lowest level of less legal 112 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: forces able to use rectify the situation without bringing a 113 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: gun into that situation. 114 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you I have one of these. My 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: family members do as well a lot of my friends. 116 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: If you want more information on how you or a 117 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: family member can protect themselves with a Berno launcher, go 118 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: to Berna by RNA dot com. That's burna dot com 119 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: by RNA dot com. Again, protect yourself and your family 120 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: burna by RNA dot com. All right, so let's get 121 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: into this shutdown, Senator, And this is a very interesting shutdown. Democrats. 122 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: Obviously they have a game plan. They were rolling it out, 123 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: as you mentioned on the Sunday shows, and what they're 124 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: clearly aiming for is a shutdown where they can say 125 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: this is Donald Trump's fault Hakeem Jeffries. He was on 126 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: TV about the government shutdown, unloading on the president and saying, look, 127 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: Republicans have behaved as consistent rubber stamps for Trump's extreme agenda, 128 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: and so therefore there has to be some accountability for that. 129 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: So this is a shutdown they're going to cause, even though, 130 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it's clearly a democratic shutdown if it happens. 131 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 3: Well, let me explain what a shutdown is and why 132 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: this is relevant. So, the way the federal government works 133 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: is the executive branch cannot spend money unless Congress has 134 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: appropriated that money. That's how the constitution works. That Congress 135 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: has to appropriate money in order for the executive to 136 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: make it expenditure of taxpayer funds, and typically those appropriations 137 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: are for a period of time. The fiscal year of 138 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: the federal government runs from October first to September thirtieth, 139 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: So at midnight on September thirtieth, the existing funding for 140 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: the federal government will expire. In order to continue funding, 141 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: Congress has to act. Now, the House has passed a 142 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: continuing resolution, it's also called a CR. A continuing resolution 143 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: essentially says nothing changes and the House's continuing resolution funds 144 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: the government until the middle of November. It changes no 145 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 3: policy at nothing. It just says everything that's happening. Now, 146 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: let's keep it going for a couple of months. The 147 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: House has passed it. It is now in the Senate. 148 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: In order for legislation to pass the Senate, it takes 149 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: sixty votes, that's the ordinary filibuster rule. A week ago 150 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: we took up the houses clean CR. There's no riders, 151 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: no attachments, nothing on it. It's just a clean let's 152 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: keep the government open. And the Democrats voted party line 153 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: against it. Now we cannot pass funding for the government 154 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: in the Senate unless at least seven Democrats vote for it. 155 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: We have fifty three Republicans, we need sixty. That means 156 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: if seven Democrats won't vote with us, nothing passes the Senate. 157 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: And a week ago the Democrats all lined up party line. 158 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: They are projecting right now we're going to vote this 159 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: week again on a clean CR. And mind you, this 160 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: is not a Republican piece of legislation. With it with 161 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: some made your Republican priority. I'd love to see some 162 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: Republican priorities in there, but this is not. This is 163 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: simply let's keep the lights on, let's keep the government open, 164 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: and the Democrats are lining up to say no. Now, 165 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: let me tell you why the Democrats are, I think 166 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: very likely to force a shutdown because several months ago, 167 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: when we had the last battle over government funding, Chuck 168 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: Schumer agreed to keep the government open, and the left 169 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: wing of his party lost their mind. AOC and all 170 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 3: of the woke radicals, the socialists got furious with Chuck Schumer. 171 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer's favorabilities plummeted, and I've got to tell you, 172 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: Chuck is terrified of being primary by AOC. His job 173 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: is in real jeopardy. And so I believe Schumer's made 174 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: a decision. He's going to shut the government down because 175 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: that's the way he proves to the crazies in his 176 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: party that he is a ferocious warrior. Now, let me 177 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: give you some quotes from multiple Democrats about government shutdowns. 178 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: And the only thing that was different on this is 179 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: that the time of the quotes, you had a Democrat 180 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: in the White House. So here's what Chuck Schumer said 181 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: in January of twenty twenty four quote. Passing a clean 182 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: cr this week is important for two main reasons. First, 183 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: passing the cr of course, will avert a harmful and 184 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: unnecessary government shutdown. No reasonable member on either side, Democrat 185 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: or Republican, wants a government shutdown. About Chris Murphy, one 186 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: of the biggest radicals in the Senate. In September of 187 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, Here's what he said, quote, there is a 188 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: time and place to debate healthcare, just like there is 189 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: a time and place to debate energy policy and immigration 190 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: and education. But not when the funding of the federal 191 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 3: government and all the lives are impacted by it hang 192 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: in the balance. How about Elizabeth Warrens same time, September 193 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen. The least we can do, the bare minimum 194 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: that we can do, would be to pass a continued 195 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: resolution to keep the doors open and the lights on. 196 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: Threatening a shutdown is the last resort for those who 197 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: can't otherwise win their fights through elections, can't win their 198 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: fights in Congress, can't win their fights for the presidency, 199 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: and can't win their fights in courts. Here's what Brian 200 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: Shotts said in September of twenty twenty three. I've seen 201 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: the same thing over and over again. Shutdowns don't work. 202 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: The government eventually reopens, and neither side has accomplished a 203 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: single thing. No one wins, but Americans have a lot 204 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: to lose. Senator Mark Warner, September of twenty twenty four, 205 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: that's a year ago. Government shut downs unleash chaos on 206 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: federal workers, delay pay for service members, and weaken our 207 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: position on the global stage. Bernie Sanders in January of 208 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. Shutting down the government is a serious and 209 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: dangerous action. That's a terrible Bernie Sanders impersonation. Sorry about that. 210 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: That We must do everything possible to prevent shutting down 211 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: the government would impact tens of millions of our fellow 212 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: Americans who would be unable to access government services. It 213 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: would severely impact federal employees who would not get the 214 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,119 Speaker 3: paychecks they expected. It would also have a very significant 215 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: impact on our armed forces. In other words, we must 216 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: do everything that we can to prevent a government shutdown. 217 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: Senator Mark Kelly, a supposed moderate from Maryland, September of 218 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Quote. A government shutdown would have serious impacts. 219 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: Service members won't get their paychecks, airports could have major delays, 220 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: Nutrition assistance for children could be cut off. We can't 221 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: let any of that happen. Congress needs to work together 222 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: to prevent a shutdown. I literally have twenty more of 223 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: these quotes. Senator Tim Kane, January twenty nineteen. I'm a 224 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: Senator from Virginia. Some of the hardest effects of a 225 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: shutdown would be seen in my state. Well, you know what, 226 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: every one of these guys, I think it is very 227 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: likely they're going to vote in the next forty eight 228 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: hours to shut the government down. And it's not because 229 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: they think government shutdown is a good idea. It's because 230 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: their base just hates Trump and they want to have 231 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: a primal scream. And so I think the odds are 232 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 3: very high the Schumer shutdown will happen because he will 233 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: force the Democrats all to vote to shut the government down. 234 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: When you talk about this vote and when this goes down, 235 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: what's the time frame? And then how does he come 236 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: out of this getting Is it just a few days? 237 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: You think? Is this one of those that could turn 238 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: into weeks that we've seen in the past because or 239 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: is it just Hey, I did it. Therefore I really 240 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: am a radical Democrat, so therefore you should keep voting 241 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: for me instead of AOC. 242 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 243 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: Look, I think there's a chance this extends to weeks. Now, 244 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: let me explain what a shutdown means. A government shutdown 245 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: doesn't shut down every function of government. So the basic 246 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: principle is essential functions continue even when government funding has expired. 247 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: So what does that mean. The military continues to and 248 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: protect this nation. Law enforcement continues to serve. Border patrol 249 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: continues to serve. FBI agents continue to serve anyone who 250 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: is essential for the public safety continues to serve. Air 251 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 3: traffic controllers continue to serve. The Coast Guard continues to serve. 252 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: Throughout the government. What happens agency by agency is the 253 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: agency heads have to designate employees who are quote essential 254 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: and employees who are quote non essential, and the non 255 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: essential workers stay home. They stay home, they're not paid. 256 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: The government paychecks stop now typically after a shutdown, and 257 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: shutdowns can expend extend weeks or even longer. Typically, at 258 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: the end of the shutdown, the workers all come back 259 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: and they're paid back pay. So it actually costs the 260 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: federal government a lot of money and a lot of 261 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: functions that are non essential. So one of the classic 262 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: areas that will be shut down if Schum forces the 263 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: Schumer shutdown up will be national parks. So I will 264 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: say if you were planning this weekend to take your 265 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: family to a national park, if you're going to Yellowstone, 266 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: I would watch the news very closely because if the 267 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: Schumer shutdown happens, Yellowstone Park will be closed. If you're 268 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: planning to bring your family to DC to go to 269 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: the Smithsonian, the Smithsonian museums will be closed if the 270 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: Democrats force a shutdown. That being said, I will tell 271 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: you something that has changed the terrain very significantly. So 272 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: last week Russ Vote, who is the head of OMB 273 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: the Office of Management and Budget, put out a memo 274 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: to federal agencies and said, I want you to lay 275 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: out a plan if the Democrats force a shutdown to 276 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: terminate workers who are working government workers who are working 277 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: in areas that are not consistent with the President's agenda 278 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: and the priorities of this administration. I gotta tell you, 279 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: I feel a little bit like rare rabbit. Throw me 280 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: in that briar patch. I think if Schumer and the 281 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: Democrats force a shutdown, we're going to see the Trump 282 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: administration give pink slips, not furloughs, but terminate workers, and 283 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: in particular, terminate workers in government agencies that are critical 284 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: to Democrat priorities. So you could see workers in the 285 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: EPA being terminated. You can see workers in the Department 286 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: of Labor being terminated. You could see workers in the 287 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: irs being terminated and not just furloughed for a few days, 288 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: but handed to pink slip, given a reduction for saying 289 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: your services are no longer required. And I will tell 290 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: you if that happens this week, we will hear a 291 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: collective howl of agony from Democrats. And I'm willing to 292 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: bet so. Senators will all return to Washington on Monday. 293 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: Our first vote will be at five thirty Monday evening. Tuesday, 294 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: all the Democrat senators will have lunch together. All the 295 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: Republican senators will have lunch together. Given this memo from 296 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: the Trump White House, I'm going to predict that the 297 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: Democrat senators are going to be screaming at each other 298 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: in that lunch because they're going to be some Democrat 299 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: senators who say, do not give Trump the excuse to 300 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: lay off a bunch of workers who are who are 301 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: fighting for Democrat priorities and what we care about. And 302 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: I think Schumer is scared for his own political survival, 303 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 3: So I think he's going to try to force a 304 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: shut down anyway, but that memo has changed the dynamic 305 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: in a very real way, and so there is a 306 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: non zero chance that seven Democrats decide to heck with it. 307 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to break with Schumer and vote to keep 308 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: the government open. That would be a good thing if 309 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 3: it happens. But we'll see what happens this week. 310 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this question, because I think 311 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: it's an interesting one, and that is, should we secretly 312 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: be hoping this happens so that we get this those 313 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: jobs that many people say, Hey, I lay them off, 314 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: and let's get leaner as a government and stop all 315 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: the waste and abuse and the fraud and the overspending. 316 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: This would be in that kind of Doge mentality, or 317 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: is that a cautionary tale of like, hey, you may 318 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: think this is great, but it's really not. 319 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think that could end up being a 320 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: very good outcome. If the Democrats force this, It would 321 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: be worthwhile for them to feel a very real consequence 322 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 3: in terms of their constituencies who fund fund their endeavors, 323 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: losing the ability to promote their priorities and listen within 324 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: the federal government, within the deep state. There are a 325 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 3: great many bureaucrats who are left wing bureaucrats who are 326 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: fighting for the teachers' unions, who are fighting for the 327 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: radical environmental groups, And it would be good for America 328 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: for anyone that is actively undermining the country, actively undermining jobs, 329 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 3: actively un mining the ability of kids to get a 330 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: good education. It'd be good for America for those folks 331 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 3: to be terminated. And I do think if the Democrats 332 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: force a shutdown that President Trump will view that as 333 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: all the justification he needs to make permanent reductions and force, 334 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: which could be a very good outcome. I think what 335 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: will happen then is the Democrats will cave and the 336 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: government will be funded. And if the government shuts down 337 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: for a few days because the Democrats want to have 338 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: a temper tantrum at the end of the day, the 339 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: consequences of that are not enormous. They're going to blink, 340 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: They're going to give in because simply keeping the lights 341 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: on at the end of the day, they don't have 342 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: an argument against that. 343 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: So final question on this, and that is if this 344 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: does extend and everything happens and the shut down the 345 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: way that you described it, and what this really looks like, 346 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: at what point does this hurt the Democrats? Like, is 347 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: it weeks or months? In I mean, I mean we've 348 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: seen longer shutdowns that it does seem that shutdowns now 349 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: are just automatically taking a little bit longer. 350 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: So look, in the first Trump administration, we had a 351 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: lengthy Schumer shutdown. And at the time of the Schumer shutdown, 352 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 3: in the first Trump administration, uh, the federal government had 353 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: funded the military, had passed had passed funding for the military, 354 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: and so our active duty military soldiers, sailors, airmen, and 355 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: marines were getting their paychecks. But unfortunately, we had not 356 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: funded the Coast Guard. And the Coast Guard is funded 357 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: in a different title than than than than the remainder 358 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: of the military. And so I went to the to 359 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: the Senate floor and fought to fund our coast guardsmen. 360 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: Our coast guardsmen are are often left out. And by 361 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 3: the way, the coast guardsmen were going to work, that 362 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: they were protecting our border, that they were rescuing people 363 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: in distress. Uh, the they were doing the heroic work 364 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: that the Coastguard does every day, but they were not 365 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: getting their paychecks. And I'll tell you, the Democrats stood 366 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: up and objected and said no, we will not pay 367 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: the men and women of the Coastguard. I think you'll 368 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 3: see some of that that same effort if there is 369 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: a shutdown. You can anticipate that that multiple Republicans, myself included, 370 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: will go to the Senate floor and try to fund 371 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: individual portions of the government. Say, Okay, Chuck Schumer, you 372 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 3: want to shut the government down. How about the Coast Guard? 373 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 3: Will you pay for them? And the Democrats will probably object, 374 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: how about NIH the National Institutes for Health? Do you 375 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: want to fund them? Do you want to do cancer research? 376 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: Or do you want to shut that down? And my 377 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: prediction is the Democrats will object over and over and 378 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 3: over again to each of these individual funding efforts. And 379 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: part of the reason they'll do that is they're counting 380 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: on the media to be dishonest to try to blame 381 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 3: the shutdown on Trump. I think that is very hard 382 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: to do when the bill on the floor is a 383 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: clean cr All it is doing is continuing the status quo. 384 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: Will CNN and MSNBC and and and the corporate media 385 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 3: try to say that means it's Trump's fault that really 386 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 3: to keep the government open, he should spend over a 387 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: trillion dollars and give in to the democrats demands of 388 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: passing their extreme agenda. Sure, they'll try to say that, 389 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: but that's a hard argument. 390 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: And so. 391 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: I think you'll see lots of spinning. But part of 392 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: the problem is I think Democrats feel there are no 393 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 3: consequences to them when that when they embrace extreme positions, 394 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: and and so you could see an extended shutdown because 395 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: the first Schumer shutdown in the first Trump administration, I 396 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 3: think the Democrats felt they paid no political price for it, uh, 397 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: and and that probably emboldens them to force another shutdown. 398 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about the extremism uh of the 399 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. You're witnessing it now on this issue on 400 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. But we're also witnessing it with their rhetoric 401 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: that has not been toned down even since the assassination 402 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk. And Democrats act like they're being moderates, 403 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: that they're not being radic or extreme. Well, we've got 404 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: the tapes now to prove that's just absurd. 405 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right. It is no matter how much 406 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: violence we see, the Democrats keep leaning in on their 407 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: extreme rhetoric. Just this weekend, Gavin Newsom tweeted out in 408 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 3: all caps, Stephen Miller is a fascist. That's the entirety 409 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: of the tweet. It's in all caps. Steven Miller is 410 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: the deputy White House Chief of Staff. And it is 411 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: by the way, as of the time that we are 412 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: recording this, it has twenty seven million views. So people 413 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: are seeing Gavin Newsom saying Steven Miller's a fascist. And 414 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 3: just to remind you, the bullet casings from the rounds 415 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: that were fired and murdered Charlie Kirk, among the things 416 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: etched on the bullet casings were, hey, fascist. Catch Gavin 417 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: Newsom knows that his staff knows that, and labeling Republicans 418 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: they disagree with as fascists is tragically. It is inviting 419 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: more and more violence. And I wish I could tell 420 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: you that Gavin Newsom was an outlier. He's not. Democrats 421 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 3: across the board are doing this. I want you to 422 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: listen to Hakim Jeffries on CNN and listen to just 423 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: how he's ratcheting the rhetoric up and up and up. 424 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 6: Give a listen when he was greeted formerly by former 425 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 6: President Joe Biden, and then of course at the Capitol 426 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 6: during the inauguration, which, by the way, was like a 427 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 6: super villain convention that the American people had the witness 428 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 6: and it's been a national nightmare ever since. 429 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: One question, right, super villain convention. So Charlie Kirk's assassinated 430 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: Democrats say they need to down you turn down the rhetoric. 431 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: And then we're what fourteen days later, and he's saying 432 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: that this was a super villain convention. That's not. 433 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: That was Friday Night, by the way, where he says 434 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: that the inauguration is supervillaant villain convention. Tim Waltz, governor 435 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: of Minnesota, obviously was Kamala Harris's vice presidential nominee, has 436 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 3: described Ice as quote the modern day Gestapo. JB. Brit Pritzker, 437 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: the governor of Illinois, claimed the country is becoming quote 438 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: Nazi Germany because Ice is quote grabbing people off the 439 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: street and disappearing them. Jasmine Crockett, who manages to never find, 440 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: never find a level two idiotic, two inflammatory, two over 441 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: the top that she's willing to go, she compared Ice 442 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 3: to quote slave patrols, and look, this is so extreme. 443 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 3: You know, there was something remarkable that happened in the 444 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: last couple of days. I don't know if you saw 445 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: this h Ice Cube the rapper. 446 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, his bus was attacked. 447 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: His bus was in Portland, Oregon, and it was firebombed 448 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: because these idiots saw the word ICE and thought that 449 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: Ice Cube was ICE, the Immigration Enforcement Agency. But like 450 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: these antifa leftist knuckleheads, you know, by the way, like 451 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 3: like Ice Tea and Ice ice Baby better like you know, 452 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: you know, cover up their name tags. Because the folks 453 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: that are angry are not terribly bright. But it is 454 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: a consequence of this demonizing of treating them. Look, it's 455 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 3: fine for one side or the other to say I 456 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 3: disagree with my opponents, they're wrong, their policy positions are 457 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: are harmful, they're a mistake. That that's the normal give 458 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: and take a political discourse. And there's something fundamentally different 459 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 3: when you scream fascist, not see gestapo, and you direct 460 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: it not only your political opponents who keep being the 461 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 3: victims of violence, but you direct it to law enforcement 462 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: into ICE. You know, I was just in Dallas at 463 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 3: the ICE facility where another deranged shooter unloaded on an 464 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 3: ICE facility. And it seems no matter how bad it gets, 465 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: the Democrats keep it up. We put together a montage. 466 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: I want you to listen. I'm gonna apologize to this, 467 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 3: apologize for this. I'm going to subject you to several 468 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 3: minutes of Democrats gone wild, just to show just how 469 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: elevated their rhetoric is and and how harmful it is. 470 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: So give a listen to this montage. 471 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 7: Donald Trump's modern Daescapo is scooping folks up off the streets. 472 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 7: They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped off to 473 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 7: foreign torture dungeons. No chance to mount of defense, not 474 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 7: even a chance to kiss the love one goodbye, just 475 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 7: grabbed up by massed agent, shoved into those vans and disappeared. 476 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 8: When you compare the old films of the Gestapo grabbing 477 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 8: grabbing people off the streets of Poland, and you compare 478 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 8: them to those nondescript thugs who grabbed that that student, 479 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 8: that graduate student, it does look like a Gestapo operation. 480 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 8: You know, my dad served in Second World War. He 481 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 8: fought the Nazis, and I think he's looking down right 482 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 8: now when he's happy that I'm fighting today's Nazis. 483 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 9: Because if we just roll this clock on the wall 484 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 9: back seventy five years we'd be looking at a time 485 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 9: and Nazi Germany where people ran around with signs like 486 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 9: this new ICE sign that says report all foreign invaders 487 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 9: to ICE, with Uncle Sam there holding up the sign. 488 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 9: This could have been a Gestapo member seventy five years ago, 489 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 9: report all Jews. 490 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 10: It's somebody who understands history. 491 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: When I see ICE, I see slave patrols. 492 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 11: Dangers that we saw in. 493 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: Nazi Germany are the dangers that we need to react 494 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: to now. 495 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 7: And another thirty billion dollars to hire and train ICE 496 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 7: agents who have functionally become a secret federal police force 497 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 7: with expanding domain. 498 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 12: An authoritarian government in Washington, DC is dispatching massed agents 499 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 12: to abduct immigrants from our streets. 500 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 13: To be coming out of our country. I mean, I 501 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 13: grew up in a dictatorship and I don't even remember 502 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 13: ever witnessing anything like that. To have a democracy, a 503 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 13: peacan of hope for the world to now be turned 504 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 13: into one of the you know, one of the worst countries, 505 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 13: where the military are in our streets without any regard 506 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 13: for people's constitutional rights, while our president is spending millions 507 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 13: of dollars bumpting himself up like a failed dictator. 508 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 11: Every single ICE agent who's engaged in this aggressive overreach 509 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 11: and are trying to hide their identities from the American 510 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 11: people will be unsuccessful in doing that. This is America. 511 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 11: It's not the Soviet Union, but not behind the Iron curtain. 512 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 11: This is not the nineteen thirties, and every single one 513 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 11: of them, no matter what it takes, no matter how 514 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 11: long it takes, will of course be identified. 515 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 14: This is not Germany, that's the ass and the good Stoppoh, 516 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 14: this is the United States of America. 517 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: Unmask yourself. 518 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 15: Just been overwhelming. I mean just watching everything online now 519 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 15: the ICE, you know, thugs and people do not want 520 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 15: to continue to watch people fund this kind of extraction 521 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 15: is going to violence. Yeah, it's violence. 522 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 10: The other things and all the other cuts pays for 523 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 10: a massive increase in the masked secret police that are 524 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 10: terrorized in our communities. ICE. 525 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 12: This is despicable. It's un American. I called ICE the 526 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 12: modern day Gestapo a few months ago, and some people 527 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 12: thought that was going too far. I thought that was 528 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 12: too extreme. God angry at me for saying that. Well, 529 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 12: come on, like that's literally what's going on. 530 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 7: You have called to abolish ICE. 531 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 15: How do we achieve a future that's post ICE. 532 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 16: How do we achieve a future free of terrorism by 533 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 16: abolishing ICE. 534 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 5: ICE is a terrorist organization. 535 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 17: It needs to be defunded, it needs to be abolished. 536 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 16: We're seeing aggressive Gestapo type tactics in people being approached 537 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 16: on the street, in their home, at the clinic, at church, 538 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 16: at all kinds of locations. That's why this morning on 539 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 16: the House of the Floor, I warned the American people 540 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 16: that this is looking like the American Gestapo in the making. 541 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 5: I think we need to be really active at like 542 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 5: challenging what ICE is doing on every front we can, 543 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 5: and obviously being ready in the case of Trump trying 544 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 5: to call in the National Guard or whatever federalized national Guard. 545 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 18: I can't see how anybody can say they're a Christian 546 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 18: and treat someone from another land in their own land 547 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 18: this way. It's mean, is what it is. It's mean spirited. 548 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 18: A lot of these folks are being picked up by 549 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 18: you know, hooded thugs in the street in the most 550 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 18: Unamerican ways. 551 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 19: ICE agents without visible ideas, without any official markings on them, 552 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 19: with masks, they're as they're acting more like vigilantes than 553 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 19: of agents of our government. 554 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 17: Because we don't live in a country, an authoritarian country 555 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 17: where we have secret police who are masked, who are intimidating, 556 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 17: who are scaring people. That's the stuff of authoritarian states. 557 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 17: That is not the stuff of the That's not how 558 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 17: the United States operate. 559 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: He sent out ice and border patrol to intimidate folks 560 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: from walking in to our event. He end up arresting 561 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: this poor soul that was just trying to sell strawberries 562 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: as collateral damage to intimidate us. That is a previous 563 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: stephen of things to come in voting bruce and polling 564 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: places across this country. And the ice issue is alarming 565 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: beyond words. It is the private, largest private domestic army 566 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: of its type police force anywhere in the world. He'll 567 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: have thirty thousand people that increasingly appear to be swearing 568 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: an oathabamus to him, not the constitution of the United States. Again, 569 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: wake up to what's going on in this country. That's 570 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: happening in the United States of America. Masked men jumping 571 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: out of unmarked cars, people disappearing, no due process, no oversight, 572 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: zero accountability. In the United States of America. Today, people ask, well, 573 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: is authoritarianism? You're being hyperbolic, We're being hyperbolic if you're 574 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: a black and brown community. It's here in this country. 575 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 14: I have heard enough in the last couple of weeks 576 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 14: about ICE agents and wearing masks that I think when 577 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 14: we win the majority in the House, you're going to 578 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 14: see enough Democrats make it a priority for ICE enforcement 579 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 14: that they are no longer faceless. It looks too much 580 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 14: like some eighteen hundred's bank robber or you know, some 581 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 14: KGB officer in Russia, you know, pulling protesters off the streets. 582 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: Senator, you listen to that, and it's very clear that 583 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: Democrats get talking points and they stick with them. And 584 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: when they do this, they're doing it on purpose to 585 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: undermine the rule of law. They're to undermine law enforcement. 586 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: We've seen them do so the Supreme Court as well. 587 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: There's quite a few, quite a few examples recently of 588 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: them really just using their words to turn people to 589 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: hate someone, to hate law enforcement, to hate police, to 590 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: hate the Supreme Court, to hate law and order. And 591 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: yet they say they want to ratchet down, but they're not. 592 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: They're doing the complete opposite of that. 593 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 3: So, and Ben, let me ask, is so one of 594 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: the key Democrat talking points that they keep repeating is 595 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: they say that ICE are fascist or Nazis are good 596 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: stappo because they're wearing masks. Let me ask you why 597 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 3: is ICE wearing masks so they're not docksed. 598 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: That's what it boils down to, so that they're not 599 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: outed by the same people that have maps of where 600 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: ICE agents are, so that you can go after them 601 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: if you want to. 602 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 3: I mean so Democrats, including Hakeem Jeffries, have called for 603 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 3: unmasking ICE, identifying them and going after them. And look, 604 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 3: that's putting ICE law enforcement officers at risk, that's putting 605 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 3: their spouses at risk, that's putting their children at risk. 606 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: This lunatic in Dallas used an app, the ICE Finder 607 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 3: to go find the facility, to to get up on 608 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 3: the roof with a bolt action rifle and fire multiple rounds, 609 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 3: murdering two people. And and look, I understand. I think 610 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 3: it's perfectly reasonable if you're an ICE agent not to 611 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 3: want a bunch of angry radicals who want to harm 612 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 3: you and your family to be to be able to 613 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 3: doc you. This is a direct result and it's not 614 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: fringe people. Hakeem Jeffrey stood at the podium and said, 615 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: unmask these guys and go after them, and that tragically 616 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 3: lunatics are listening to them. 617 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 18: Yeah, they really are. 618 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep exposing it and keep calling them out 619 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: when they do it. Don't forget. We do this show Monday, 620 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday, So hit that subscribe or auto download 621 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: button wherever you get your podcasts and the Center and 622 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: I will see you back here on Wednesday morning.