1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: Ready for a break? Yeah? 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 6: And so much for that. It's time for the Break 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 6: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: We were on. 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 7: With Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton. 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 8: It is to the January ninth, twenty twenty four, season nineteen, 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 8: episode number one oh four. Welcome to the latest edition 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 8: of The Break. We're Alive from s WBC Morrigange Studios 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 8: at the Star. It is playoff week and before we 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 8: get into our breakdown of Cowboys versus Packers on tomorrow, 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 8: today we will do a bigger picture look around this team, 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 8: around some of the storylines from the season and looking 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 8: forward into the playoffs, some of the things that we 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 8: think will be important for this team, uh if they 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 8: want to achieve their ultimate goal of advancing and advancing 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 8: beyond the first second, maybe even third round of the playoffs. 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 9: Before you get I just wanted to point something out 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 9: real quick. You two gave me crap about it yesterday. 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 9: You gave me crap for it yesterday. But please, Chris, 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 9: please show Patrick and how he's dressed today, rocking out 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 9: all the Super Bowl wins that the Cowboys have had. Whisa, No, 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 9: I'm His answer to this is he wants to serve 30 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 9: as inspiration when he walks into the locker room player 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 9: see it and be like, oh man, we need to 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 9: add to. 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 7: That that we're yeah, yeah, this is actually the counteract 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 7: the bad juju. 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 9: Basically guaranteed, what worse, you're walking around like a champ. 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 7: I'm walking around down as a reminder. This is how champs. 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 10: This is what it looks like when you do what 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 10: you need to do for this organization. 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 7: You get patch on the jacket and they change hats 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 7: and make it six times instead of five times. Super 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 7: Bowl champion as opposed to as opposed to one of 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 7: our famed analysts guarantee that this is. 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 8: The ye Patrick, our trusted producer Chris wanted me to 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 8: remind you locker rooms tomorrow. 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 10: Oh no, I know, okay, just making sure but they're 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 10: still in the building. 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 8: Oh okay, I got absolutely, this is more so for her. 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: All right, okay, all right, I should I should wear 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: my super Bowl packer ring. 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 11: Then no, no, right that. 51 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: I keep it in the closet. That's a bad idea. 52 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 8: This show is just off the rail. Y'all killed it 53 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 8: before we got to go. 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: I knew better not to wear my Packers suit. 55 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 12: Yeah, let's leave that one in the box at home, 56 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 12: brol Ring. It's been a while, all right, let's talk 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 12: a little bit about first's get a quick update on 58 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 12: Stefan Gilmour. 59 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 8: Yesterday we heard a little bit about where he is. 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 8: What are we hearing at this point as far as 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 8: his health. 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 7: Well, Jerry spoke this morning on one O five three 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 7: the Fan and he basically he didn't guarantee that that 64 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 7: Gilmore will be on the field, but he did say, 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 7: quote unquote, he counts on him being on the field, 66 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 7: which basically, you know, mirrors the sentiment of McCarthy and 67 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 7: Stephen Jones. They both expect that he'll play. Gilmore himself 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 7: expects that he'll play. Like Brian explained yesterday, just shoulder 69 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 7: popped out sublization to pop back in the MRI. Results 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 7: came back and McCarthy said that it was much better 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 7: than anticipated, so very very good news as far as 72 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 7: Gilmore's availability. He'll probably play in that shoulder harness outside 73 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 7: of that, just something to keep an eye on. But 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 7: he might even get some practice time this week. I 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 7: would not, but he might so maybe in a limited capacity. 76 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 8: Brian, how much is that shoulder harness like restrict movement 77 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 8: because obviously for corner you've got a lot of stretching 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 8: that you have to do. 79 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: It got to play with that offhand, you know, depending 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 3: on you know, you don't want that to be It's 81 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: gotten better over the years. It used to be just 82 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: when we were with the Packers. Yeah, it used to 83 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: be really used to be really restrictive and far as 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: the movement, and you know, they've developed better ones and 85 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: stuff like that. I still feel liked it. If if 86 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: in fact, and I'll check on that to see if 87 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: he's wearing anything for us and or talk to the 88 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: equipment guys. Sometimes they can adjust your pads. They could 89 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: build your pads up or take them down or you know, 90 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: in order to help with movement and stuff like that. 91 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: He wears small pads. He didn't wear small pads, so yeah, 92 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: but he's going to have to be it's a physical game. 93 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: He's going to have to make plays, so you know, 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: we'll see with that. But it used to be back 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: in the day, Man, that was a that thing kept 96 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: that shoulder and arm tight to your body. And it's 97 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: a corner. I say, you need to play with that 98 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: offhand if you're driving on the ball. There was a 99 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: couple of times in the game the other day, man, 100 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: he was just like inches away from not going to 101 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: pass down. You know that was caught. But you know 102 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: you've got to be able to to be able to 103 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: do that to play corner. 104 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 9: What's interesting is and they're never going to put a 105 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 9: player out there that shouldn't be out there if they're 106 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 9: not healthy. They're not gonna do that. But what's interesting, 107 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 9: we're at a point now that it's you're all in, 108 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 9: Like there's no like rest now or like save let's 109 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 9: save him for another game. It's like now, it's if you're. 110 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: If there is a. 111 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 9: Faded green light that means go, it's time to go. 112 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 9: But is it more with that stuff? Is it like 113 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 9: more pain tolerance type of stuff too, Well. 114 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: You would probably worry about it popping out it again. 115 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: But even if it's in, is he still doing it's sore? 116 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, at that sort, and they can they can medicate 117 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: that if they so choose to do. 118 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 8: So it's it's football players are a different breed man 119 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 8: when it comes to pain tolerance, and that's what they 120 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 8: was literally just in a meeting and the topic came 121 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 8: up of Tony Romo if you remember within that game 122 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 8: in San Francisco. Yeah, punctured lung and they had literally 123 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 8: in the press box they had been told he's out, 124 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 8: like he's not coming back in his game. And next 125 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 8: thing you know, he's running out of the tunnel, grabs 126 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 8: his helmet, He's back in the game, and they go 127 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 8: and win the game. 128 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: And so it football players are different. 129 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 8: So as you talk about like this time of year, 130 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 8: like they want to be on the field because they 131 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 8: know these times are rare. You only get so many 132 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 8: opportunities at this and they want to. 133 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: Be part of one of the One of the one 134 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: of the funny things to look at is the injury 135 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: report the day of the Super Bowl. Neither team has 136 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: a guy. 137 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 8: Right, everybody everybody's healthy. 138 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: It is, you know, and we've seen it with hockey 139 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: players in in in playoff time in hockey, like they 140 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: have injury and he played with a torn knee, or 141 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: he tore his back, was he was missed a disc 142 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: injury and they play. They play every other night and football. 143 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to be left out of this because you 144 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: you work all year for this opportunity and the whole life. Yeah, 145 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: the injury every game, the injury report gets a little 146 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: less and less and less until the end. If you're 147 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 3: the final one, it's like no interest reported, no interest reported, 148 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: and then you go play the game. 149 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 8: And by the way, everybody right now has something to 150 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 8: probably everybody's everybody. It's not gonna get any better. But 151 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 8: the fact is, as the game's going to get more important, 152 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 8: everybody wants. 153 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: To be nobody. Nobody will talk about it. Nobody will 154 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: even go near the training room. They will figure out 155 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: ways to avoid having to go in the training room. 156 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 10: Like said, if it's a faded greenly, if it's. 157 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 7: A yellow light, go go in this regard, ladies and gentlemen, 158 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 7: not actually traffic laws. 159 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: Just by the laws, you're allowed to still go in yellow. 160 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, I plead the fifth and then but if it's right, 161 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 9: obviously I'm. 162 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 10: Not playing that game, not on the record, I'm not. 163 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: That's proof. 164 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 8: All right, Let's talk a little bit about coaches and 165 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 8: GM Sam. 166 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 5: Williams, Huhle's and Uh, there's been there have been a 167 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: few teams that have been reaching out here to the Cowboys. 168 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 8: Let's focus been a few teams have been reaching out 169 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 8: to the Cowboys year over the last twenty four hours 170 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 8: about coaching positions, about GM positions. Jerry addressed a little 171 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 8: bit this morning on with Sean and r J and 172 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 8: Bobby on one O five dot three of the Fan. Carolina, 173 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 8: the Chargers, and Washington have reportedly reached out in to 174 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 8: interview Dan Quinn and Carolina and Washington reportedly have have 175 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 8: interviewed or are asking to interview Will McClay. My question 176 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 8: for you guys is when you look at both those 177 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 8: two guys, I think obviously we all agree they're very 178 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 8: important what the Cowboys are doing here. The bigger question 179 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 8: is how much would it hurt the operation if you 180 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 8: were to lose one or both of these guys. 181 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 9: Come on, come on, I was gonna say, we've been 182 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 9: through this how many times. 183 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: Now, like three times with Clyn. 184 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 9: I trust Jerry Jones' power and wallet to make it 185 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 9: happen whatever it needs to happen. Clearly, I mean we 186 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 9: know they absolutely love and respect Will McLay and everything 187 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 9: that he's done. In his trajectory and the success that 188 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 9: he's had drafting players. And we've seen how dan Quinn 189 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 9: has completely turned around this whole defense since I started 190 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 9: working here, like for ten years ago, it looks completely different, 191 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 9: so I think, and they've held on to him. I 192 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 9: think it depends what happens if they how far they 193 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 9: get into the playoffs. It's not mcarthy. Is dan Quinn 194 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 9: willing to kind of because last year that's kind of 195 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 9: what happened. He was wanting to stick with his group. 196 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 9: He truly believed in the group of players that he had. 197 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 9: He fully saw the vision of where this team could 198 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 9: go and he wanted to be part of that. That's 199 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 9: why he kind of stayed here with the Cowboys. So 200 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 9: I don't know what happens if, let's say, how far 201 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 9: the Cowboys make it, he decided to stay at a 202 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 9: as a coordinator, or does he move on to oneting 203 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 9: to now become a head coach. 204 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 7: Well, my thing with it is, eventually it is inevitable 205 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 7: dan Quinn will return to the head coaching ranks, and 206 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 7: I think that the timeline on when he does that 207 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 7: depends on the amount of success that he can have here. 208 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 7: So I say that to say, if the Cowboys are 209 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 7: able to make this run to the super Bowl and 210 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 7: potentially win the Super Bowl, he will have achieved what 211 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 7: he came in to achieve, and then it makes it 212 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 7: easier for him to kind of look at those other opportunities. 213 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 7: I will also say I think the other opportunities have 214 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 7: to be favorable for him. He was the front runner 215 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 7: for that Denver Broncos position before that didn't happen for him. 216 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 7: So it's not to say that he's not willing to leave, 217 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 7: but there is a lot to be said as far 218 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 7: as what you went what you alluded to, But he 219 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 7: loves this unit and he knows he's not going to 220 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 7: get a Michael Parsons on every other team. He's not 221 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 7: going to get Trayvon Diggs on every other team. He's 222 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 7: not going to get, you know, Deron Bland, a late 223 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 7: round pick turn into a franchise NFL record center. So 224 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 7: that goes to the importance of keeping Will McClay around 225 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 7: as well. I really think this is like a symbiotic 226 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 7: relationship type deal because once the scouting department look like 227 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 7: at the next team that he goes to, it's so 228 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 7: much on the table and as far as Will McLay 229 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 7: is concerned, Well, let me really quickly. I think dan 230 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 7: Quinn sticks around and less the Cowboys win the Super Bowl. 231 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 7: If they win the Super Bowl, it makes it easier 232 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 7: for him to go and try to achieve what he 233 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 7: try to achieve that as a head coach versus a coordinator, 234 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 7: because then he will have achieved it twice as a 235 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 7: defensive coordinator, but not yet as a head coach. Will 236 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 7: McClay I think, well, I know Will McClay loves this organization, 237 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 7: loves this city. His family is rooted here. I don't 238 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 7: think he wants to go. He has as much power 239 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 7: as he needs to have in this organization. Sons the 240 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 7: title of general manager, but he's not. He doesn't care 241 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 7: about that title. He cares about the ability and the 242 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 7: relationships and that is present here. So as much as 243 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 7: other teams will rightfully come after Will McClay year after 244 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 7: year after year, there's a reason money is won, but 245 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 7: also the relationships and the power that he has in 246 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 7: his organization, those cannot be understated either. 247 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: I think you would if you were to, if the 248 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: commanders were somehow to hire Dan Quinn and Will McLay, 249 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: I would fear that combination right now. I think you 250 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: would lose a lot of stability. I think you would 251 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: lose a lot of stability with your defense. I think 252 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: you would lose some stability with your front office. I 253 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 3: think you would lose two guys that completely understand what 254 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: it's like for the marriage of the scouting department and 255 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 3: the coaches to work together. I think they work shoulder 256 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: the shoulder very well. I think it's very smart for 257 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: the commanders and Carolina to interview both because to me, 258 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: that could be a package deal right there. There's a 259 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: lot of trust between those two. They work very well together. 260 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: Dan respects scouting. Will understands what coaches go through on 261 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: a daily basis. That understanding, you would lose that with Will. 262 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: Everything you said Patrick about the family and all that, 263 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: I totally agree. Will's got a son that's, you know, 264 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: finishing up school. I think it'd be a little bit 265 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: easier for him to move if if his son was 266 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: in college right now, it'd allow him. He had an 267 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: opportunities from Houston, had an opportunity to get the Texan job, 268 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: didn't take the Texan job, or didn't want to be 269 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: part of the Texan job, so you know, he's very 270 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: family rooted that way. The Joneses, he's He and Stephen 271 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: get along very very well. The thing that drives you though, 272 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 3: as a personnel man is to have your own operation. 273 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: He's a big, big part of what this team does, 274 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 3: and that's why people want him because they understand he 275 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: can he can go find players, he can organize, he 276 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: could work with Jerry and Steven. Everybody sees that, so 277 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: that makes him very attractive to teams out there. It's 278 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: also within your division, you know, would be something with 279 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: the commanders that you have to think about that gosh, 280 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 3: you know, taking the guy that helped you build a 281 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: power like you have Aaron Dallas, you know, within the division. 282 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: But there's always that lure of having your own operation, 283 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: being able to hire your own people, run it your way. 284 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 3: You be the final decision maker here, and so I 285 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: totally respect, I totally expect that there will be a 286 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: day that Will McLay does that. I don't know if 287 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: it's today, but there's going to be a time where 288 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: I know that he and Dan get along great, and 289 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: everybody around the league that knows both guys well tell 290 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: me that that man. There's a lot of respect between 291 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: those two. So if somehow it turns into McClay gets 292 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: the job, I would see Dan quinn, if that team 293 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: needs a head coach, I could see you losing both 294 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: guys to the same place if in fact it came 295 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: to that. 296 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 8: I'll tell you like this, I think of all the 297 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 8: folks out there that are possibilities, I think Will McClay 298 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 8: should be at the top of anybody's list when I'm 299 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 8: looking for a GM. You look at what the results 300 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 8: have been here in Dallas in the period that he's 301 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 8: led the scouting department. I mean, you could say what 302 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 8: you want about the results of the Cowboys not getting 303 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 8: here or not getting there every year. They are competitive 304 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 8: every single year. They are competitive, and they are getting 305 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 8: players that are not just first round pick second round, 306 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 8: but you're getting players lower in the draft. They're getting 307 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 8: players in free eight like they are getting right there. 308 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 8: They are getting they are They have built the team 309 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 8: from the ground up, and that is in no small 310 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 8: part due to the work of Will McLay and the 311 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 8: ore as you said before, the organization of how he 312 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 8: puts this thing together and how he works with his team. 313 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 8: And you know that more than anybody else would it's 314 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 8: like to have a scouting group. 315 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: It's he'll pull that together. Yeah, it's very difficult because 316 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: he's in the Bermuda triangle. And if you don't want 317 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: to be a triangle, let's look it up, let's google it. 318 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: It's it's a place where planes and chips go to die, 319 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: you know, I mean they disappear. But Will is in 320 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: that area where you got the Joneses on the top 321 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: of the triangle, the scouts on one side, and the 322 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: coaches on the other, and he's in the middle of that, 323 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: and he does a great job of making sure that 324 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: each group feels they're important to the process. There was 325 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: a time where that wasn't all we the case. You know, 326 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: he he does a great job of getting everybody involved 327 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: and making sure that everybody's taken care of that nobody 328 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: feels slighted. Like you could get scouts that would say, 329 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: now the damn coaches get whatever they want. Coaches will 330 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: say the damn scouts get whatever they want. Ownership says, well, 331 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: you know, I don't trust the coaches to evaluate. You know, 332 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: Will does a great job of making sure that everybody 333 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: and Stephen and Jerry as well, making sure though that 334 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: everybody on that, and because there was a time where 335 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: that wasn't the case around here. I was a part 336 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: of an organization, you know, part of the front office 337 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: here where there were things that were outside influences that 338 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: kind of hampered what we were trying to do. And 339 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: we all weren't on on the same page all the time, 340 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: and there was that animosity towards each other the group, 341 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: and Will's Will's tied that all together. He he knows 342 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: how to build an organization, a front office, He knows 343 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: how to evaluate, and he knows what it takes to 344 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: win your division. His his whole goal is always to 345 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: try and win the de vision and then figure out 346 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: from there on. But you look at where he's where 347 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: he's really done some you know, and last year, you know, 348 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: we'll see about this draft draft class. I mean, it 349 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: probably isn't going to end up to being what they 350 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: wanted to be. But you look at going back his 351 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: ability to navigate, Jerry wanting, Johnny Manziel and then no, no, no, 352 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: no here, Zach Martin. No, you know, I know we 353 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: wanted you know, this guy, but let's think about this one. 354 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 3: I mean, just making the right call sitting there and 355 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you get digs in the second round. 356 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: Let's sit here and wait. Let's make sure that the 357 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: boards stack the right way. That's how you win football. 358 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: That's how you win. And there are owners around the 359 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 3: league that would would do anything to have Dallas' roster 360 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: right now with the way it is from top to bottom, 361 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: and they would love that. And you go, you go 362 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: get a guy that helped build all that. 363 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, one of the hardest things to do in a 364 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 8: position like his and any position of leadership is manage 365 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 8: all three. Manage all up, manage down, and manage the 366 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 8: side is on the whole artest things to be able 367 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 8: to do well. You can be really good at managing 368 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 8: up and not good at managing down, and vice versa. 369 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 8: You can be good at both and not be able 370 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 8: to manage across very well. But when you can do 371 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 8: all three well, that's what makes really good leadership and 372 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 8: that's what will has that. I don't think a lot 373 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 8: of people in this world do. All right, we're gonna 374 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 8: take our first back when we come back. We're gonna 375 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 8: jump into this season, recap and playoff looking forward. 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Actually, this 435 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 8: segment's brought to you by blockchain dot Com. All right, 436 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 8: so here's what we're gonna do. I've got a whole 437 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 8: list of questions here. Some of them are about the season, 438 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 8: the whole season, some of them about specific players, some 439 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 8: of them are about look looking forward to the playoffs. 440 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 8: But I'm gonna run down these questions for you, and 441 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 8: then we're gonna have you see what you guys think 442 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 8: and kind of give everybody a good synopsis of the 443 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 8: season as the Cowboys head into the playoffs. Let's start first, 444 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 8: with what do you think was the most impressive win 445 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 8: you had the Rams where you beat them forty three 446 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 8: to twenty, Seattle where you won forty one thirty five, 447 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 8: Philadelphia where you beat them thirty three to thirteen, or 448 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 8: Detroit where you won twenty to nineteen. 449 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 7: I'm going to go with Philadelphia almost with with the Seahawks, 450 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 7: just because the fashion in which the offense was explosive 451 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 7: in matching serve, but given how much defeating the Eagles meant, 452 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 7: particularly at that time, Eagles had kind of snuck away 453 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 7: with one in Philadelphia because of your self inflicted wounds, 454 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 7: they come back, they get you know, it was right 455 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 7: after they got beat up by San Francisco. Eagles really 456 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 7: needed to avoid the two games slide. 457 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 10: At that point. 458 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 7: They were looking to, you know, push the Cowboys deeper 459 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 7: behind them in the NFC East race, and to not 460 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 7: only defeat the Eagles, but to defeat them in the 461 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 7: fashion in which they did could not have been more 462 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 7: monumental for the Cowboys momentum wise, standings in the NFC 463 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 7: and NFC East and a large reason, large part of 464 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 7: the reason they are sitting where they are right now 465 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 7: with the NFC East title and the number two seed 466 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 7: is because they took care of business when the Philadelphia 467 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 7: Eagles came to town. So for me, I'm going with 468 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 7: the Eagles. 469 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 9: I was gonna say Eagles too, because that victory was 470 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 9: so tasty. 471 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: It was so good, it was so good, it was 472 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: so good. 473 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 9: But I would say the one against the Rams was 474 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 9: really good too. 475 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: Now, looking at. 476 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 9: Everything as a whole picture, I mean, you gotta remember 477 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 9: every team looks different on. 478 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 2: A week two week basis type of stuff. 479 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 9: But I think the way that they're played against the 480 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 9: Rams there and I was looking more for a victory 481 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 9: like that that was not at home, not at at 482 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 9: and T Stadium. Yeah, in that game, it was just 483 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 9: everything in the defense, the way that they were playing, 484 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 9: how dominant they were still at their peak where the 485 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 9: defense was still the one kind of dominating the whole 486 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 9: team and really doing most of the work. 487 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: I miss that. They were really really good. 488 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 9: They're still good, but not at that level, but at 489 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 9: that time it was. 490 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: It was just very impressive too. The way that they 491 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: perform in that game. 492 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 3: Detroit gritty win, I mean just gritty. I mean they're 493 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: gonna run, They're gonna Dan Campbell talks about biding kneecaps 494 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: and fighting you and all that, and you know, you 495 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: play the whole game. You play well against the run, 496 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: you pressure their quarterback. That's the third seed in the 497 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: National Football League right now. That win right there, that 498 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 3: flipped you. You're two, they're three now, just because of 499 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: how you played that football game. That was huge. And 500 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: I mean the last drive. I know we talk about it, 501 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: but the way that that team played for fifty eight 502 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: minutes up to that, just the grittiness on defense, the 503 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: toughness they showed. They did enough on offense to win 504 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: the game. I think the Lions game was the one 505 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: that got my attention the most. 506 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I agree with you, Brian, and I 507 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 8: agree with you because I think that's the style of 508 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 8: football that they're going to have to play in playoff games. 509 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 8: And so it was very refreshing to see them play 510 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 8: that kind of close game where they had to deal 511 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 8: with some adversity. They still had to be tough, they 512 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 8: had to make things work, and I think they did 513 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 8: that and they got that win. On top of the fact, 514 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 8: in my opinion, that was the best thing they played 515 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 8: that they beat this season was the Detroit Lions. All Right, 516 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 8: what was the most hurtful loss San Francisco forty two 517 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 8: to ten, Arizona twenty eight to sixteen, Buffalo thirty one 518 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 8: to ten, or Miami twenty two to twenty. 519 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 10: Arizona. It just it shouldn't have happened. It just should 520 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 10: not have happened. 521 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 7: And you would think going into that game, you rule 522 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 7: out through your offensive lineman, through your starting offensive lineman, 523 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 7: and you think, Okay, this is probably if they lose 524 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 7: this game, this is why they're going to lose this game. 525 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 10: But that's not why you lost the game. 526 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 7: He lost the game because you we're sleepwalking going into it, 527 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 7: and you were assuming, coming off of what you did 528 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 7: against the Giants and the Jets, that you were just 529 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 7: going to mow right through the Arizona Cardinals, and the 530 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 7: opposite happened, and with the run game, they mowed right 531 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 7: through you. James Connor and those guys, they had a day. 532 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 7: Josh Dobbs got off to a hot start with the 533 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 7: big run on the boot leg to the left, and 534 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 7: things went downhill from there. So I mean, you could 535 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 7: look at the San Francisco forty nine ers and but 536 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 7: for me, I look at the forty nine ers contest, as. 537 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 10: I think that needed to happen. 538 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 7: In hindsight, that was the pivot point that was to 539 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 7: come to Jesus moment for McCarthy, the offensive staff, Dak Prescott, 540 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 7: the team as a whole, because they were a different 541 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 7: team after that Week five drubbing at the hands of 542 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 7: the forty nine ers. So I'm actually, in hindsight, I'm 543 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 7: glad that happened. They turned the Cowboys into a better team. 544 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 7: The Cardinals, though that loss put you in jeopardy of 545 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 7: not getting this this NFC East thrown it put you 546 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 7: in jeopardy of not getting the number two seed. So 547 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 7: but I mean, good learning point, good learning experience for them, 548 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 7: But that one, that one still stings for me. 549 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: Forty nine ers. 550 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 9: I'm an emotional person and I can't help it, just 551 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 9: a little bit, a little bit sour. But but that game, 552 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 9: the build up, everything that came that was happening before 553 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 9: getting to San Francisco, and then get in there, and 554 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 9: then the fact that there was no fight, because if 555 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 9: you tell me there was some type of something happening 556 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 9: in that game, there wasn't. Not on any phase of 557 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 9: the game, like nothing was happening. They got completely dominated 558 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 9: it was embarrassing. So yes, it worked out because the 559 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 9: Cowboys became a whole different team after that week. But 560 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 9: at the same time, it's just one of those that, Okay, 561 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 9: how are they going to play once they if we 562 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 9: get to that point again where maybe they get to 563 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 9: play again in the playoffs, I expect a better Cowboys team, 564 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 9: But at the same time, it's just like, damn, there 565 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 9: was no fight whatsoever. 566 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 3: The game in Philadelphia was the one that bothered me 567 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 3: the most because you had a chance to win that 568 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 3: one at the end. You waste a really good effort 569 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 3: by your quarterback that day and your inability to play 570 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: nine to one to one football at the end when 571 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: it came down, you didn't have timeouts, you didn't have 572 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: a lot of You looked like a team that just 573 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: wasn't prepared, and that that bothered me. And especially in 574 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: a big game like that, a divisional game, chance to 575 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: win it, you get unforced you get penalties, you get 576 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: things happening to you. You didn't handle the situation all 577 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: that well. You got all the way down their chance 578 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: to win in and you couldn't finish it off. That's 579 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: the one that bothered me the most because I think 580 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: that it exposed you on some of the things that 581 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: you worry about. Maybe going forward, I think they've gotten 582 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: better in a lot of those areas, but you still 583 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 3: have that in the back of your mind if it 584 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 3: turns in what have we had happened at times during 585 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 3: the Mike McCarthy era when we get to the final 586 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: you know, final few minutes of the game, or you know, 587 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 3: not being able to finish a game and you have 588 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 3: the no timeouts we saw in a playoff game at 589 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 3: San Francisco, we saw at Philadelphia. You know, you got 590 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 3: to be able to handle those situations to finish games. 591 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: And that's the one that bothered me the most, because 592 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 3: you had a chance to win that game. 593 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 8: You know, I would go with Buffalo just because of 594 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 8: the way Dallas loss, the way they were basically demoralized. 595 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 8: They didn't play well in any phase of the game, 596 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 8: like they played really poorly, and I'd gotten to a 597 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 8: point where I'd forgiven them for what had happened the 598 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 8: first five weeks of the season. The Arizona lost, the 599 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 8: San Francisco lost, because I felt like, okay, bye, we came. 600 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 8: Adjustments were made. They were a different team, and that's 601 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 8: what they'd shown us, So for them to get blasted 602 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 8: like they did at Buffalo in the way that they did, 603 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 8: where they really didn't put up much of a fight, 604 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 8: that's the one that to me was most hurtful because 605 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 8: a lot of these other losses, I can accept a 606 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 8: twenty two to twenty loss to Miami on the road. 607 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 8: That's a playoff style game, like you just didn't come 608 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 8: up with. Even with the Philly game, they were in contention. 609 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 8: They like you said, they had moments when you thought 610 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 8: maybe they can win this game. That I mean, they 611 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 8: were just completely outmatched in Buffalo, And that's the one 612 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 8: that just of all the games in the second half 613 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 8: after the bylets say, I just felt like they were 614 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 8: they got blasted even though I thought they were a 615 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 8: different team. 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Visit Thestardistrict dot com for 678 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: all a full directory of those stores. 679 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 8: Welcome back to his final segment of The Break. Life 680 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 8: in that s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star Man, 681 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 8: I'm just looking up here at the TVs we have 682 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 8: in the background. Mike Rabel out in Tennessee. Man, this 683 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 8: is he's out. He's out, He's out. Yeah, he's coaches 684 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 8: this is This week is always really tough because when 685 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 8: you when you work around this building, you start realizing 686 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 8: how much you don't necessarily see it as a fan, 687 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 8: but you start realizing how many people are affected adversely 688 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 8: by coaches being fired. It's not just the coach, it's 689 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 8: his staff, it's all of their families that now have 690 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 8: to think about relocating and all that kinds of And 691 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 8: I know nobody feel sorrow for I get it, but 692 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 8: the fact of the matter is it still is a 693 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 8: tough time of the year for those Now. 694 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: I think the next domino to fall is we might 695 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: see Bill Belichick get released. 696 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 10: Keeping an eye on We still has a house in Boston, 697 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 10: Rabel does, so. 698 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd be interesting, Yeah, I would. I would think 699 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: that maybe that they wanted to bring they would want 700 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: to bring in Mike Rabel. Yeah, yeah, in New England. 701 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: So and we'll see that'll that then that domino falls, 702 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: and then something else And you know where Belichick, where 703 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: does he end up? You know, he's kind of in 704 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: that parcels mode right now at the end where you know, 705 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 3: he could probably still coach, but do you really want 706 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: him doing personnel stuff. I think that's the biggest question 707 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: with Bill, and he's even talked about that he would 708 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: relinquish some of that. But you know the thing is 709 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: if if he excuse me, ambar. 710 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 14: If. 711 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: He you know, if he feels like he knows more 712 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: than the personnel guys like, because he really he preps 713 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: this stuff. I mean, he works hard on it. But again, 714 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 3: you're right, the dominoes fall and you know, here we go. 715 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 8: I'll say this, a franchise is trying to restart a 716 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 8: similar what the Cowboys did when they brought in Bill Parcels. 717 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 8: Bill Belichick would be a very, very valued asset. I 718 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 8: would think to a team like let's say Carolina or 719 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 8: a team likes say Washington, where they're like, we need 720 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 8: to rebuild our entire culture and everything about what program? 721 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, the program. He has an idea of how to 722 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: put people in place to do that. They just his his. 723 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: It's very much, very similar to what and I went 724 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: through this in Dallas to being a fan in the 725 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: in the late eighties with Tom Landry. Yeah, you get 726 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 3: to a point in time where the game, as far 727 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: as it's not the x's and o's that give you trouble. 728 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 3: It's the you know, it's your ability to see the 729 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: players and how to build your roster that way. And 730 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 3: I think that maybe Belichick he still believes in how 731 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 3: he evaluates. But you talk to people around the league 732 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: and you look at the way the Patriots have scouted. 733 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: Their roster is just not good enough, and they wonder 734 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 3: why they don't win. Their roster is not good enough. 735 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: That's a problem. 736 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 8: All right, let's finish this off. We got a few 737 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 8: more questions that we're going to have as a part 738 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 8: of our recap. These both are going to be looking forward. 739 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 11: Now. 740 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 8: I need to be careful with the wording of this 741 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 8: question because it's not the most It is more all right, 742 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 8: going into the playoffs, which defensive player is more critical 743 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 8: to team's success? I know most would probably say it's 744 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 8: going to be Micah. I'm going to give you some options. 745 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 8: I need you to pick from one of these options, 746 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 8: Damone Clark, Jonathan Hankins, or Donovan Wilson. 747 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 7: I'm thinking, what do you think, I'm Brian, Those are 748 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 7: all good. 749 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 10: They are so good. 750 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 8: They all provide a little something different for you and 751 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 8: that's why you kind of really think. 752 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 10: Of Okay, I'll think I'll go go ahead, go ahead. 753 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 9: I was just gonna say, I mean, obviously they're all very, 754 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 9: very valuable, but I would say the moont Clark mainly 755 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 9: because of the position, the lack of depth in that position, 756 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 9: but also the fact where that position plays on the field. 757 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 9: I mean it's kind of in between. You're helping the 758 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 9: ones in the back and you're also helping maybe to 759 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 9: stop the run and help Jonathan Hankins finish the job 760 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 9: that he's doing. So mainly because of the position, I 761 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 9: would say the moond Clark, and he's trending upwards right now. 762 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 7: It's hard to pick between those three, but I am 763 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 7: going to go with Jonathan Hankins. I think Hankins returning 764 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 7: and being healthy, and like I said, he looked good 765 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 7: against the Commanders. That's going to be paramount against guess 766 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 7: what teams that like to run the ball? Who were 767 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 7: talking about Packers and we'll get into it this week, 768 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 7: but Packers are a team that love to run the ball. 769 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 7: Can you control the line of scrimmage defensively? And Jonathan 770 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 7: Hankins has excelled at doing that in pre high, inkless brain. 771 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 7: He was having a hell of a season, not just 772 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 7: as that definitive big body run stopper that can eat 773 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 7: up double teams and help maintain gap and integrity. He 774 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 7: was getting in the backfield and being disruptive in that 775 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 7: capacity as well. So for me, I'm going to go 776 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 7: with Jonathan Hankins. I think it's huge, no pun intended 777 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 7: having him back on the team. 778 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a really good list, and man, but 779 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 3: when Wilson's on and I'm trying to think of all 780 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: these times and all these teams you're probably gonna play 781 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 3: that are going to run crossing or outes and trying 782 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 3: to attack the middle of the field, and when you know, 783 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: the other day you saw a really good example, they 784 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: get pass rush and all of a sudden, the ball's 785 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 3: fluttering in the air. Wilson's encourage, they get an interception. 786 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 3: His ability to play with physicality, maybe down in the 787 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: box and against the run. You know, the thing that 788 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 3: you worry about Hankins is the most steady art could be. 789 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 3: Like he could get lost and Wilson could get lost sometimes. 790 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 3: But if I had to say one guy that can 791 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: make an impact coverage and physicality, I think it's Wilson 792 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 3: and with say, with all the routes and stuff that 793 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 3: they're going to see in the middle of their field 794 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 3: and with him having to deal with that, I need 795 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: him to play big. Yeah. 796 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 8: I was when I was putting this together and I 797 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 8: thought about it, I was like, I don't really need 798 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 8: Donovan Wilson for the playoffs. I need Donoh, Like, I 799 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 8: need that dude. Like what you notice about Donovan Wilson 800 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 8: is he's a guy that when he's on and making plays, 801 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 8: he's a difference maker. Like he's not just a guy 802 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 8: out there. He's a difference maker. So I need games 803 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 8: where we come out of the game saying, oh, you 804 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 8: see what Donal Wilson did. Like those are the kinds 805 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 8: of games where you're like, Okay, that's the player that 806 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 8: the Cowboys paid for. If you're getting a guy that's 807 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 8: just solid, that's not what he's best at. He's best 808 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 8: at changing games and making those kinds of plays. And 809 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 8: I think when he's that guy, no offense and these 810 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 8: other guys, but I think that makes a difference because 811 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 8: he's gonna make he's gonna make plays behind the line 812 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 8: of scrimmage. He's also gonna make plays down field. He 813 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 8: gonna make plays in the middle of field like he 814 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 8: can be all over the field for you and making 815 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 8: plays and making a difference in a game. When he's 816 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 8: playing that. 817 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 7: Style, he's gonna make play plays laterally and knife and 818 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 7: three for those scream around as well. So absolutely, that's difficult. 819 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 7: Three to pick for it. 820 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 8: Is it is Okay, here's another one which offensive player 821 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 8: is more critical to team success? Jake Ferguson, Tony Pollard 822 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 8: or Brandon Cooks. 823 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 10: You know you're really good at hosting. 824 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 8: It's all right, He's not giving any credit. 825 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 10: These questions are phenomenal. 826 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 9: Ferguson Cooks or. 827 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 10: What you got? What you gotta go see it? 828 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna have to go with maybe. 829 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 9: You could argue anyone, but I was gonna go with 830 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 9: maybe Cooks. 831 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: But it's it's tough because. 832 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 9: Man, they've all had their moments and they all have 833 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 9: not had their moments. So but I think the running 834 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 9: game it is what it is at this point. 835 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: That's that fer Inson. 836 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 9: He's really really good and Dak will definitely use him. 837 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 9: But at the same time, I wonder what the offense 838 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 9: will look like with even with times where Brandon Cooks 839 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 9: is not getting the ball, and he's getting open or whatever, 840 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 9: but not getting the ball. Him being on the field 841 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 9: has to account for something. And I don't know if 842 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 9: CD Lamb would still be ceedee Lamb without someone like 843 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 9: Brandon Cooks somewhere out there on the field. So I 844 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 9: think his mere presence, even when he doesn't get the ball, 845 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 9: is still highly important for this offense. 846 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 3: It's got to be Cooks. Cooks is the one guy 847 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 3: that scores in the red zone. You know, you start 848 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 3: to talk about you can talk about Ferguson getting down there. 849 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 3: It's surely not CD. You know has had some touchdowns 850 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,959 Speaker 3: down there. But what does Dak do when he gets 851 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: inside the twenty? He somehow finds Cooks running a corner 852 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 3: route or fade or something. He's always this guy knows 853 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: how to get his feet and bounce. He knows how 854 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 3: to secure the ball, he gets separation, separation, he's quick. Yeah, 855 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: it's you're right, anbar about the running game. It is 856 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 3: what it is. I'm not relying on the running game. 857 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: I think it'd be nice if Pollard could play well. 858 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 3: I think that would help. But you know, Ferguson, he 859 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 3: does his fair share between the twenties. But Cooks is 860 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 3: the one that can make plays from anywhere on the field, 861 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 3: but he could also score in the red zone, so 862 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 3: I need him to do that. 863 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 10: I agree with you guys on the run game. 864 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 7: You know, you want to see Pollard have a strong day, 865 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 7: But I'm of the mindset that either or either Pollard 866 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 7: will have a strong day and or Rico will have 867 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 7: a solid day, one of those two things will handle it. 868 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 7: So in the passing game, I'm gonna go with Jake Ferguson. 869 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 7: I think going into games each of the teams that 870 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 7: the Cowboys play against, assuming they you know, win and 871 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 7: continue to win, they're going to ki in obviously on 872 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 7: Ceedee Lamb, and now they're going to start a king 873 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 7: on Brandon Cooks and say, okay, well, too many of 874 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 7: these teams the Cowboys have faced have forgotten about Brandon Cooks. 875 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 7: So they're going to go after ceed Lamb and Brandon 876 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 7: Cooks and that's just going to open up things for 877 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 7: Jake Ferguson. And then when you look at what Ferguson 878 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 7: has done for the offense, Brian makes an excellent point 879 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 7: when it gets down to the red zone. One of 880 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 7: the biggest solutions in the red zone has become Brandon Cooks. 881 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 10: But moving the chains. 882 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 7: To get down there, that's Jake Ferguson, right, that's Ceede 883 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 7: Lamb and Jake Ferguson. 884 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 10: So Jake Ferguson. 885 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 7: Having a big postseason will play massively in favor of 886 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 7: the Cowboys because it keeps things open free for CD 887 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 7: Lamb and Brandon Cooks. But it also really stresses those linebackers, 888 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 7: and it stresses those safeties who have to now kind 889 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 7: of focus on crashing down or do I play back 890 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 7: or do I crash down because the seams are being 891 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 7: attacked by Jake Ferguson, who not only is you know, 892 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 7: good at possessions, but his yak yardist like once he 893 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 7: gets the ball in his hands, you really have a 894 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 7: time taking him down. So all great answer is challenging 895 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 7: the pick between them all, but I'm going with Jake Ferguson. 896 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 10: I think he's the X factor. 897 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 8: I think the reason why this question is important is 898 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 8: because and this is because I play fantasy football in 899 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 8: the postseason and one of the things I've noticed this 900 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 8: has been a trend that we've talked about in our 901 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 8: little league that happens every year. Is you watch in 902 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 8: the playoffs, the main guy, the main offensive weapons around 903 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 8: the league. Typically the first couple weeks of the playoffs, 904 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 8: they aren't the guys that really are getting off every team, 905 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 8: because every team will come into those games saying we 906 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 8: got to stop this guy, we got to stop this guy, 907 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 8: and they're gonna identify those guys and it's going to 908 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 8: be up to those other guys, those other playmakers on 909 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 8: the team to actually make the difference. This is where 910 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 8: I think the Cowboys paid the money they paid to 911 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 8: go and get Brandon Cooks is because when you got 912 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 8: a guy like ceedeelamb that going into the playoffs, my 913 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 8: suspicion is that every team that plays the Cowboys will say, 914 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 8: that's our number one priority is to shut him down. 915 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 8: If they can slow him down, who's that other guy? 916 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 8: And I think Brandon Cooks is the veteran guy you 917 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 8: can trust. He can make plays. As you said, Brian, 918 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 8: everything about his skills set suggests he can do it 919 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 8: and can definitely do it at this level on this stage. 920 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 8: So I think Brandon Cooks is a guy I'm looking 921 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 8: at and I'm like, he's this is where you pay dividends. 922 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 8: This is where you're gonna get the most out of him, 923 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 8: all right? For you in the show, Patrick Lapcoat, what 924 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 8: you got bring me in Bemer, Yes, science there it 925 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 8: is all right. 926 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 7: So started dissecting and charting the film for the Packers 927 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 7: from the Packers and also their statistical tendencies, and something 928 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,919 Speaker 7: that popped out for me is this is a team 929 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 7: that does very well at getting pressure on the opposing quarterback. 930 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 7: They get pressure almost forty percent of the opposing quarterback 931 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 7: drop backs. But digging a little deeper into that, the 932 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 7: magic numbers two seven three two seven three, Ladies and gentlemen, 933 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 7: their time to pressure is two point seventy three seconds. 934 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 7: Here's where that works in the Cowboys favorite Dak Prescott's 935 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 7: time to throw is averaging two point sixty nine seconds. 936 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 7: So that means if those two things hold true on Sunday, 937 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 7: Dak Prescott should have his normal comfortable amount of time 938 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 7: to throw before the Packers can get back there for him. 939 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 7: So again, if that holds true and the Cowboys are 940 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 7: expecting their quote unquote full force of offensive linemen, full 941 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 7: complement and starting offensive lineman. 942 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 10: Just do what you normally do. 943 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 7: Should be business as usual allowed Dak his typical time 944 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 7: to process back there, and that pressure won't get back there. 945 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 7: But if it goes past two point seventy three seconds, 946 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 7: that should already be making a decision to either get 947 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 7: that ball out or get out of the backshield. 948 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 8: All right, it's good stuff. We appreciate you guys, Jones. 949 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 8: We'll be back tomorrow. We'll jump into this Green Bay team. 950 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 8: It's not a team that's been that most fans probably 951 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 8: are very familiar with because there's so many new parts. 952 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 8: We'll break all that down for you. Talk about that offense, Yeah, 953 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 8: talk about that offense versus the Cowboys defense till tomorrow 954 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 8: for Patrick Walker. Brian brought us Amberg Garcia. I'm Derek Giltson. 955 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 8: This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 956 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 8: Com Radio. 957 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 11: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 958 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 11: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.