WEBVTT - Fire Drill 028: Open and Shut 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.360 Matt Fitzpatrick said the smartest thing you can say on 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:08.840 a Sunday night, and I think he really meant it. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.000 I'm not changing anything. I know what works. I'm going 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.920 to keep that going what works no matter what. He 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:16.799 now is in the same conversation as Tony Japlin for 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:18.680 the rest of his life. He's an Englishman who won 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.799 the US Open, and not only that, he wanted the 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:23.560 same place he won a US Amateur that puts from 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.320 the same company as Jack Nicholas. So he has had 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.440 He's a young man, he's had a great golfing life 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.240 already and he'll either keep it going or he won't 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.600 keep it going. He's going to be around for years. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:54.800 Put another log on the fire nobody hears give the time. Hello, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.560 Welcome back to another Fire Drill podcast. This is Alan 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.000 the ship Nik. Sitting right next to me is Michael Bam. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.720 We hear at the country Club in Brookline, Massachusetts. It's 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.640 Sunday evening after the US Open. Jeff Ogilvy is joining 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:10.440 us from Melbourne, Australia on the Internet. What the US Open? 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.160 I mean today was so much fun. I just loved 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.320 the energy of it. Great golf, big time players, Jeff, 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.920 what did you see that you liked on this this 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.920 kind of memorable show. I mean, yeah, you're right, it 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.920 was perfect on it. It was a few birdies to 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.520 be had, lots of lots of big names, two or 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.440 three guys who hadn't won a major. Chefla keeps showing 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.560 up even though we underestimated. No one ever picks him 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.120 at the start of the week, but he's just there 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.240 every time. And he was one part away from being 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.400 in it in the playoff. Gussie. I mean, what a 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.400 bunker shop from Fitzpatrick on the last time. Pretty impressive. Yeah, 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.840 just a great tournament. It was. It's great to have 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.840 a US Open than isn't marred by some sort of 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.680 pitching and moaning about the setup. And there was some birdies, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.680 but there was plenty of carnage and lots of guys 0:01:58.720 --> 0:01:59.960 had a chance. I think a lot of guys will 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.560 look back after the weekend that they had. There was 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:02.680 a lot of guy If you look back, a lot 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.360 of guys had a chance with two rounds to play, 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.960 you know what I mean. But Matt, I mean, if 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:12.480 you look back to Southern Hills, he was probably one 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:13.840 of the best players in the field. If not the 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.320 best player in the field, and he sort of looked 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.200 a little testy, and I even Billy looked a little 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.639 grumpy with him. Sort of towards the end of Sunday, 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.959 I thought, at least watching on TV, that his man 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.440 had sort of lost his way attitude wise. So I 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.320 kind of felt that he was sort of ready for 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.160 ready to go the next step. You would have learned 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.760 tons out of Southern Hills. And he came here and 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:35.840 got the job done, finished it off like a proper 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.160 major champion, seventeen grains. That doesn't happen very often, and 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:42.520 he was open. What do you think, mate? Agree with 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.839 all of that, and agree with your sentiment. And I've 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.120 always rooted for the US open for the greatness of it, 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.320 and it's it's hurt me actually on a personal level 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.520 to see sort of the masters you surve it and 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.600 I don't know what it is about this week. And 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.600 I think you felt the same, Alan and Jeff, had 0:02:58.600 --> 0:02:59.840 you been here, I think you would have built the 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:01.600 same And like for the second we got on campus, 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.080 We're like, this is what it's all about. It's so cool, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.440 it's so intense, it's so beautiful, it's charming, and it's tough, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.480 it's got history, it's the whole package. And I just 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:16.080 feel like I feel like the Usapeen elevated itself this week. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.560 I fully agree. And you know, even even though it's 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.040 US in the summer, except when you're maybe at Pebble 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.960 or Tory, I mean, it's a hot weather tournament, but 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.040 sort of that that the coolness and the gray skies, 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:29.960 it felt right. I felt like she'd been wearing tweed, 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.000 you know, like everything about you instinct that they think 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.640 back to nineteen thirteen and all all the great history 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.280 here and the old history, and it just it just 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.720 felt right, a little gloaming, and it really did. Yeah, 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.360 it felt spooky, and this place is a little spooky 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.920 and a little weird Ben Crenshaw, you know, kissing the 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.800 Green and it's got weird and spooky and it was 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.920 just neat and every way. By the way, I only 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.080 learned it trucently in thirteen. They played it in September, 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.600 so they probably had some kind of cooler weather. But yeah, 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.440 this is really what it's all about. It only sorry 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:01.960 Jeff was in the field. I think he would have 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:06.920 so appreciated the whole thing. I know indeed, Um, well, 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:08.839 let's let's give our due to the champ. I mean 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.400 you said it, Jeff, that that shot out of the bunker, 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.760 and I mean Fitzpatrick was nailed all day. He was 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.920 playing so beautifully and he was just letting the club go. 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.920 I mean he just looked like he was free swinging 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:22.720 out there. And then really the worst shot he had 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.560 all day was probably that quick cook off eighteen t 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.480 and he's like, oh, oh, you know, we needed Johnny 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.920 Miller on the call. That's pressure, you know. And I 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.200 was like, oh, here we go him, and let's be fair. 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.800 I mean, Fitzgerald Fitzpatrick is I think over six in 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.200 the Ryder Cup. He did struggle at Southern Hills, So 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.960 you had this sense of like foreboding, like, oh, man, 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.440 is he gonna let this get away after playing so beautifully? 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.800 So what is it about a fairway bunker shot of 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.800 Jeff that is particularly challenging or maybe there's something you know, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.360 the way you can pick the ball clean out of sand, 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.600 like talk us through the mechanics of that shot under 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.680 pressure and just how good it was. Wow, I mean 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.760 it's it's the last place you want to finish. I 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.720 think on the last while. I mean, because so much 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.800 can go wrong. I mean, look, John showed us yesterday 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:06.640 that you stend a little bit, you stay in the bunker. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.560 It's you get one grain of sound between your club 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:10.760 and the ball, and it's not going to get to 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.640 the green. It's a very sort of low margin for 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.880 error shot. He was let off a little bit that 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:19.800 he kind of had to fade it. I mean, I 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.680 don't know if he's the same and everyone else is 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.440 the same, but I've always felt a fade out of 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.480 a fairway bunker is kind of what you want to do. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.159 It's a lot easier than trying to hit a drawer. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:28.800 If he'd had the same sort of draw around that 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.160 little mound, that would have been exponentially more difficult. I 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.240 would have thought, so let off there, But he was 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:36.800 right down on the steel and the grip on it. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.920 He wasn't going to hit the ball fat And yeah, 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:45.320 great shot, incredible, You're right. He looked very free, free 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.240 all day. And his putting stroke just looks money. It 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.920 looks like if you just watch his putter, it looks 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.599 like it's a robot punting. It's just perfect. You know. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.000 When he kept that sort of that pace. He's quite 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.200 quick for an analytical, methodical guy. He gets up to 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.320 it and goes really fast, which I really like. It's 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.200 fun to watch watch him play. And he didn't slow 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:03.600 down at all. And he hit that put on the 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.880 last pretty fast, hit the bunk shop pretty fast. Um. Yeah. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.800 He looked at everything a winner all day really, and 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.440 I was interesting about him and Will coming up the 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.720 last because those two sort of I mean, I know, 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.560 if it, Matt's won a lot of times in Europe 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.360 but hasn't won over here and needed to sort of. 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.480 He's trying to win his first major. Wills trying to 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.640 win his first tournament. It's unbelievable. The majors have got 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:23.920 the one he's gonna hit. Looks like he's going to 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.400 get his first win, and I major Will, Um, so 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:27.800 I was interesting to see it just come down to 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.240 those two on the last hole and they both played 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.880 the whole last hole like Tiger and Ernie, right. It 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.160 was it was impressive. Yeah, it was neat to hear 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.240 Fitzpatrick talking about that, but you know he's a free 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.400 day taught Will too much, you know, just so and 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.080 so matched play and of course, uh Fitzpatrick where playing 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:44.560 match play, when he went went, when he won the 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.840 USM What what do you like about the kid? He's smart, 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:53.719 he's methodical, he's English, he's straight Uh. He seems like 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:58.760 a straightforward personality. Doesn't look like he's playing games with anybody. Hum. 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.479 And he just stood up there, you know, Will was 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.919 the field was serving him a lot. And when you 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.080 looked at that board at the turn, you know, it 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:08.880 wasn't like, oh this is mine to loose. It's like 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.160 anybody could win this thing. And then things changed a 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:17.240 little bit. But he seems like a methodical, intelligent player 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.160 that should win a US Open, like Faldo should have 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.800 won a US Open. Yeah, yeah, interesting? Can I as 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.000 Jeff a quick technical question? Always, Jeff, when you're getting 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.920 that you know those fairway bunkers. I heard this as 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.120 a kid. I've been doing ever since. But I'm bad 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:32.720 at a fairway bunker, So maybe I don't have the 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.160 right idea. Do you choke up as much as you 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:41.480 dig in? Um? I try not to dig in too much. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:43.960 I try not to get too deep with my feet. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:45.600 I mean it depends on the sand and it's all 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.520 every bunder South's different. That's the the fun part about bunkers, Um, 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.160 I would always choke up a lot. It depends how 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:53.720 it feels. And if the balls above your feet, you 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.040 choke up a lot. If it's below, you don't. I 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:57.720 think it's a feel thing. I think your issue is 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.360 you might need to just practice them a little bit more. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:05.440 You don't do much. One doesn't generally. Generally it's not 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.320 a shot than anyone practices. And I think we're actually 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.440 very fortunate when we play on tour because we played 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.880 courses where fairway bunkers are so prominent, and we're in 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.240 them all the time. We just get natural practice by 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.720 playing on tour out of fairway bunkers. Yeah, you don't 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.720 see many of us practice him on the range. There's 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.800 very few places you can actually practice him, so you 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.640 really have to just play lots of golf and just 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.560 working out as you go along. I think with certain 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.320 swings suit it. Certain swings suit fairway bunkers. He's very 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:32.880 shallow on the down swing, which is going to really 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.560 help him and other swings. Other guys seemed to their 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.360 fairway bunker shops all the time, and some guys seemed 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.360 to finn him. Greg Norman was incredible out of a 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.200 fairway bunker. Yes, a lot of guys. Tiger has been great, 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.240 but it's just practiced a lot. Yeah. Yeah, Savvy was 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.160 a great bunker player, fairway bunker. But he really picked 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.600 Was he really down to the steel? I didn't pick 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.959 up on that? Was he that choked up? It was 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:57.560 pretty low. There was a lot of inches of grip 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.240 above his hands. Yeah that's cool. Yeah, it was really cool. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.000 So it's cool to sort of sort of feel it 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:05.800 out on the last hole. Not rely. I mean for 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.439 a guy who's quite formulaic, I guess um he sees 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.920 does seem to play quite feel based golf. For a 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.160 guy who jots down every shot and stat he's a 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.400 stat ging analytic sort of guy. He does seem to 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.760 play a very feely based game, which is sort of 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.640 fun to watch. This is another subtle thing, but I 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.680 want your your take on this. Jeff is Fitzpatrick puts first. 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.520 He's got maybe two feet, I mean, nothing to gimme 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.559 when the US opens on the line. But um, you know, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.079 he hold out and then let will have his his 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:41.040 put to tie, which sort of denied himself the glory 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.120 of rushing in the last put. And you know, the 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:48.200 moment and hugging the caddy like at an emotional level, 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.360 he may have he may have denied himself a once 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.760 in a lifetime opportunity, But what is the thinking there? 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.320 Just to get your put you know, get your ball 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.880 in the whole. First, it was so close, it was 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.319 not you was never going to miss that. I was 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:05.400 surprised he tapped it in, to be honest. Yeah, and 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.640 from a tour player's perspective, and everyone else thinks this 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.000 is ridiculous. But I was thinking he's going to stand 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.840 on his through line. You can't stand on his through line. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.600 But then I started thinking, well that days through line 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.800 doesn't really matter because he's he's not going to win 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.000 if he doesn't make it. But I thought he was 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:21.760 going to stand on his line through the hole, And 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.600 then I thought, you don't tap it in because you're 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.199 not going to miss it anyway, and you're gonna have 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.000 a chance to tap at him. And the winner is 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.080 supposed to put out last right generally if you can 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.720 make it happen. But he was obviously a match play 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.480 mindset in those last couple of holes. So just get 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.120 the ball in the hole. And I don't I think 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:37.920 it turned out perfectly. He was standing next to Billy. 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:43.719 Billy was clearly genuinely chuffed to use a word that 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.719 they would use over there, just just genuine happiness that 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.760 he'd sort of finally got his major and he'd got 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.679 his man over the line that obviously had some frustrations 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.319 at Southern Hills on Sunday and stuff. And I just 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.880 think it was a nice moment that they were standing 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.440 next to each other when he won. Talk about Billy 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.440 faster than Caddy, who's been out here forever and one dozen, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.160 does the tournaments with different players but never won a major. 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.480 What do you know about Billy? Well, one of the 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.360 funniest people on tour, one of the brightest, and probably 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.760 could be a great writer, Cup Captain. No, Joe just 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.920 actually could be a great writer, Cup Captain. I'm sure 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.200 you've been in groups of them many times, Jeff. What's 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.480 he like to be in or has he ever been 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.720 on your bag? Or what's he like in a group 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.000 If he hasn't been, I've never had him on the bag, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.640 but I've been out with him lots and lots of times. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.640 I mean, he's fantastic, He's a very funny man. He 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.800 could be a stand up comedian without any troubles. I 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.760 think he gives great speeches at golf clubs and always 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.320 got lots and lots of stories. Tells fantastic heavy stories, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.920 brilliant Westwood stories and Darren Clark stories. I mean, he's 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.200 caddied for the Who. So he's basically caddied for every writer, 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.440 cup hero that Europe's ever had, you know what I mean, 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.959 He's just a legend of the game. He's say, sort 0:11:55.000 --> 0:12:01.200 of ageless, really, I mean he was well experienced, sort 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.520 of long time caddy when I got out Onto I 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.240 went up went to Europe in ninety ninety nine and 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:06.760 he'd been there a long time and he was very 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.199 respected then and he's still going strong. Probably the pick 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:11.800 of the Europeans that you would pick if you had 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.480 if you had a European caddy to pick out of 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:14.959 the basket, you would pick Billy if you had a 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:19.319 chance to get him. Fantastic Keddy and and as you say, 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.160 arguably the funniest man out there. I mean, the caddy 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.439 is a funny people, but he's probably the king of 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.640 the bunch and has has more great story. He could 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.320 fill up ten hours of a podcast with just stories 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.199 and you'd just be begging for more. Fantastic. Yeah, that's neat. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:37.040 It's actually a good idea, noted, very well noted. Yes, Uh, 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.599 in ninety one when I carried for Peter tarvan In 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.360 in Europe, he was ninety one. That's a long time ago. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.400 He was already catting for Sevey and Sevey was playing 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.480 good golf then. So you wouldn't have gotten that job 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.760 job in ninety one, you know, thirty plus years ago, 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.439 unless you were damned good at your job. And here 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.640 he is winning years Open, and here's two time US opened. 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.800 Andy North come through the house and we got Jef 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.480 Vogelby on the line here. Yeah, a lot of people 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.520 the US Open here, but not me and you Michael Um. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.439 I mean that that was cute because I was I 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.240 had a perfect glimpse of it where you could see 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.120 will missus putt and Fitzpatrick didn't even react. He just 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.000 looked at Billy and you know, Billy's crying and uh, 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.559 you know, it was a rare moment where almost the 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.559 caddy was more refocused than the player, and it was 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.679 it was kind of cute. I think it suits Fitzpatrick out. 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.800 It's very generous of him. It was not like, Hey, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.599 I'm the guy, this is all about me. He was 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.680 like he was, he was happy to kind of almost 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.840 felt like to share the moment with his caddy, And yeah, 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.000 I thought that's something rut bit about him. Can we 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.680 go back that one moment about tapping. I'm so glad 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.880 you concluded with match play mentality, because that's really what 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.040 it is, you know, for those two guys coming down eighteen, 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.239 it's gonna be one either gonna playoff. Basically, not necessarily, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.880 it's either gonna playoff. Matt Fitzpatrick's gonna win this thing. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:50.640 Once he's got the putt to guarantee a playoff. I 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.959 think he's got to make it because then all the 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.200 pressures on Will's allot towards It's like there's no other 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.520 wiggle room except where must make the putt. It's like, well, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.360 if they don't make it, there's some freak a chance 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.120 you might miss from twenty inches. Yeah. So I think 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.360 I just think in the matchplay sense of it, with 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.199 all due respected through line, he absolutely did the right thing. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.760 And I'm one, like you were saying, I'm one for 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.000 like on the moment, but the moment is make sure 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:17.880 tomorrow morning I got the trophy in the ribbon that 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.120 goes with it in the tournament. Yeah, the metal I mean, 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.520 I mean guys have mis sort putts, you know, whether 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:27.520 it's Scott Son of the Hills, yeah, chief and Mark Brooks, 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:29.360 like it does happen, You're right. So he tapped it 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.080 in off. He tapped it in off one leg. It 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.120 was a tapped in. Come on, I'm a yepper. I'm 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:38.360 always nervous. I'm literally nervous watching guys make short puts 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:42.320 because that's how bad my yipping is. Yeah, we're never 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.720 playing golf together, Jeff, it won't be well. I'm looking 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:50.760 forward to it. Yeah. Well, let's how it was the commentating. 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.040 Did you did you have the sound on today? Sound off? 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.000 I had to sound on. We've got the world fade 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.960 here in Australia, so we kind of bounced back and 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:03.600 forward from the NBA secrew to some frustrating stuff. But 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.360 it was really good. Zingers fantastic. I think in the 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.280 box he's sort of that perfect sort of blend. He's 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.480 not quite Johnny, but he says it how he sees it, 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.760 and he's a very intelligent golfer. Zinger, and you can 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.160 tell he just gets excited because that's his moment, right. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.160 He loves that he's the closer he got to the 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:21.720 last hole, the more he loved it. And he's just 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.480 he's such a competitive guy. I think he's fantastic. I 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.880 think john Woods are great. He's become great at the job, 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.720 you know. I mean, it's such a smart thing. They 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.600 did get Bones and John down on the side of 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:38.000 the fairways because it's really arguably they know more from 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.120 the side of the fairway than the player does because 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.320 they've spent their career watching golf from the side of 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.640 the player, you know, and assessing lies and watching other players. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:50.040 And he's he puts together a really good thing, and yeah, 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.800 it was It's very enjoyable. I mean I miss the 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.440 old Johnny days, to be honest. I mean, yeah, I 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.800 thought Johnny I think sometimes got a bit bored of 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.000 the job towards the into the normal weeks, but he 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.480 was always just fantastic on US Open Sunday, like that 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.840 was his day of the year. Um, So I missed 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.080 that a little bit, but I think Zing is the 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.440 perfect guy to replace him. Um I'm glad we're back 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.960 on NBC. No offense to Fox. Um, but I feel 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.720 at the US Open, at least in my lifetime. I 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.800 mean I remember ABC and the rossy sort of gid 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.640 ranking days and stuff too, But um, at least in 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.720 my sort of career in lifetime, that the US Opens 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.840 feels like it belongs on NBC. And Johnny was a star, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.440 you know, he elevated by his presence, you know. And 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.240 Johnny elevated that oh six US open that wing foot 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:38.280 big time. He was so perplexed by what Phil was doing. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.600 Ben Hogan is rolling over in his grave. It's one 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.760 of the all time great calls. He's like, this better 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.040 be the forward when Phil guests a lass. Yeah, it 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.880 was not the foreward. Um, oh, it's such great stuff. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.400 Um well, I mean you mentioned this earlier. John. There's 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:55.160 some players who are gonna really be kicking themselves because 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.520 in the end, Uh, the course played a little softer today. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.680 There was there was birdies to be made. And by 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.440 the way that when I woke up this morning, I 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.080 opened my windows and I could see puddles out on 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:05.800 the street. I mean it was a pretty good rain 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.280 here in Brooklyn. So you know, I think if in 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:09.960 the absence of that, of course, would have been tougher, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:11.840 and I think the USGA would have probably pushed it 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.320 a little bit more, but there's nothing you can do 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.880 when it rain. Sunday morning. It was weirdly perfect scoring conditions. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.560 It was not what we thought it would be, and 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.840 that is one of the great beauties of an outdoor sport, 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.280 you know, to be windy and culled and it was 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:30.000 pleasant and still and overcast and you could see the shots. Yeah, no, 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:31.840 I think I think a war of attrition is fun, 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:33.760 but it was really felt like a shootout. I mean, 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.560 guys were hitting some incredible shots, like um that I 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.640 don't know what iron As Altorius hit on that long 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.640 part three? What is sixteen? Like? That was? That was pure? 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.000 That was I mean he had just made bogie two shots, swing, 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:47.960 looks like he's out of it, and he flagged it 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.639 from to twenty, got back in the fight. I mean 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.280 that was That was a big time golf shot. And 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:54.439 you know, if the green was brick hard, that thing 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.520 probably rolls over to the rough and it's different stories. So, um, 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.600 it's not. It is nice when when great shots are received. Yeah, 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.200 I think we can all agree with that. Yeah, some 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:07.600 guys who went backwards today, John Rom, Rory McIlroy. I mean, 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.480 let's just put a little bow on their weeks. As 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.000 particularly surprised with Rom. I mean he started three under 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.080 um and he was never a factor today. And you know, 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.160 Rory made a bunch of birdies, a bunch of bogies. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.119 He was there, he wasn't there. It was just quintessential 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:26.560 Rory performance. But watching the watching those guys play played out, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:31.040 what what did you see? Yeah, yeah, I mean Rory's 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.160 gonna look back again. I mean he didn't really lose 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:37.600 it today. I think he probably lost it yesterday. Um. Um, 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.840 he just he's just top five in majors every time. 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.560 It doesn't really matter how. He plays the same sort 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.359