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Speaker 2: We haven't had one of these in a while. I

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Speaker 1: This is the answer how do you deal with high

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Speaker 2: A lot of characters.

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Speaker 1: They've been together for seven years, minus the six month

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Speaker 1: Even more show after they got back together, my sister

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Speaker 1: alert beer beer beer. Her boyfriend makes her split everything

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. She also copies me all the time.

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Speaker 1: Now what it started with small things like trying to

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Speaker 1: take on some of my hobbies. She never showed interest

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Speaker 2: Are you making her a better person? Yeah? This is

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Speaker 2: this is crazy, but it's a sister in law.

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Speaker 3: Like My thought at first was, oh, you want you

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Speaker 2: What is your sister in law? So Opie's husband is

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Speaker 2: the brother. I'll be honest.

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Speaker 1: I was texting for Sam's food when you said that,

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Speaker 1: and I'm still going to be texting.

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Speaker 3: He's fighting for Sam's food. I need some conspiracy theories

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Speaker 3: right now in the chat. Okay, theory basically, it's just

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Speaker 2: Sweet Home, Alabama. But it's a cistern law right now,

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Speaker 2: it's a sister in law. Why is she trying to copy?

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Speaker 1: Because she thinks the let me be more like sister.

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Speaker 2: The shampoo, the conditioner, I mean, yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's a good Damn Damn.

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Speaker 2: I read read it stories John for a living. You

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Speaker 2: freaking do and you're just literally the greatest on earth.

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Speaker 1: Guys put hearts in the chat for Riley because he's

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Speaker 1: the greatest producer anyone could.

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Speaker 2: Ever ask for it, and I love her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So now she likes reading, thrifting, collecting crystals,

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Speaker 1: and is now interested in going to car meets that

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Speaker 1: she used to hate. My boyfriend bought me Alexis that

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Speaker 2: Maybe she just likes her may.

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Speaker 1: Maybe oh she's this is this is nuts?

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Speaker 2: Oh a deconspiracy? That was my other one.

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Speaker 3: Sister in law husband is into ope. So she's like,

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Speaker 3: why don't you be more like her? Why don't you

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Speaker 3: have cool cars? Why don't you smell knofs tethern.

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Speaker 2: Necks, and dude, you crushed it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, this is this is wag bro kind of insane.

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Speaker 1: She even threw a fit over wanting to buy my

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Speaker 1: that she's dealing with. Jump to January. Me and my

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Speaker 1: boyfriend found out that I'm pregnant. Yeah, it was un

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Speaker 1: Once we got a few appointments in, we decided to

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Speaker 1: She then left to go drink alone at the bar

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Speaker 1: Come on, that's so sad, that's pathetic. She had an

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Speaker 1: The next day, she sent my boyfriend a long message apologizing.

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Speaker 1: She told him about her struggle with endo metriosis, which

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Speaker 1: I feel for the girl, but the fact that she

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Speaker 1: her actions to at, pissed me off. It was my

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Speaker 1: She reached out to my boyfriend again and requested I

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Speaker 1: I didn't hold back and told her how self centered

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Speaker 1: back and forth for the day. Honestly, it felt good

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Speaker 1: at family dinner every Sunday, but nothing more for now.

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Speaker 2: right here. I don't know where this is coming from.

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Speaker 1: It seems like, baby, there is a everyone's the a

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Speaker 2: Possibly.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like she's kind of given her, She's

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Speaker 1: she's kind of taking it out on her and being

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Speaker 1: She didn't I believe she didn't apologize to her. Actually

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Speaker 1: I believe, yeah, that she apologized instead to Opie's boy Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The next day she's that my boyfriend along message apologizing,

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Speaker 1: So she was like, hey, why don't you just apologize

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Speaker 1: to me directly? Like why why did you Why did

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we didn't get the actual message the latest message,

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Speaker 1: I believe.

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Speaker 2: But and the.

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Speaker 3: Boyfriend is a sister. Right, get related? Let me let

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Speaker 3: me because that makes.

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Speaker 2: Kind of sense. We need a whiteboard. Oh boy.

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Speaker 1: The breakdown is we have.

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Speaker 2: OP.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we have boyfriend, boyfriends, sister in law, sister in law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Jillie being the turtle.

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Speaker 3: The sister in law equals the girlfriend's girlfriend of Ope's

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Speaker 1: What wait, say that again.

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Speaker 3: The girlfriend of Ope's boyfriend's brother. Yeah, the girlfriend so

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Speaker 3: a boyfriend's brother girlfriend. Yeah, boyfriend's brother's girlfriend. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah so yeah, the the brother in law's.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so, the boyfriend is connected to the brothers. So

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Speaker 3: the their brother, two brothers and their girlfriends. Two brothers

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Speaker 1: Got it?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think I'm close because see, let's see it. Let's

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Speaker 1: send the people related to h.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Would the mother in law come from? She was mentioned

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Speaker 3: there somewhere. Okay, he's in there somewhere. So opm BF,

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Speaker 3: so BF, and sister. I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: All these people are connected.

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Speaker 1: All of these people are dating, yes, the ones directly connected.

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Speaker 1: This might be more confusing than it is helpful, So

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Speaker 3: Put yeah, two brothers are dating two girls, and the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no one, no one is related to op Yeah no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: me if we're correct, please. Okay. So fast forward about

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Speaker 2: Of course, she wanted me to be.

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Speaker 1: The first to note that she found out that she

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Speaker 1: She also told me about every single vitamin she took,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm better than you.

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Speaker 3: Your baby's gonna be malnourished, and my baby's gonna have

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Speaker 1: Five, yeah six five blue eyes trust fund exactly. She

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Speaker 1: told me not to tell everyone, but I blew up

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Speaker 1: everyone is best. They agree that it was wrong for

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Speaker 1: It was weird of her to rush a pregnancy that

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Speaker 1: going I believe she's going through IVF to you know, God,

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Speaker 1: still like pretty newly back together. That's why dang and dude,

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Speaker 1: I see us in the comments. But she did that

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Speaker 2: This is crazy. Why is she going this far? And

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Speaker 2: why is she this jealous?

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Speaker 1: It's it is kind of terrifying. Naja says she's not

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Speaker 1: fit to be a parent if she's being this petty.

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Speaker 1: Christian D said, I hope the baby doesn't come out

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Speaker 1: six y five if she wants to walk again. The

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Speaker 1: great point, Trisha, I mean, it would probably explode out

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Speaker 1: of her stuff before before she'd have the chance to

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Speaker 2: Oh oh man, I see you, baby trap. Dude, I

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Speaker 2: see you, baby trap.

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Speaker 1: That was oh but dude, But but she was trying.

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Speaker 1: She was going through she was going through the process

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Speaker 1: to be fertilized with the baby.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, thank you said this. I see you, baby trap,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, vix mix. Here's the real thing.

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Speaker 2: That is not a marsuper old John. It's a baby

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Speaker 1: My brother in law is calling my father in law

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't dodge it, especially if you're the grandmother of

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Speaker 3: This okay, story time, this almost happened to me really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So my mom was at a church and she announced

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Speaker 3: The lady like, oh, so, what are you gonna name

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Speaker 2: He's like oh uh okay, So you basically like did

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Speaker 1: And guys, w's is your mom still in the chat?

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Speaker 2: I hope? So W's in the.

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Speaker 1: Chat for Riley's mom, dude, dude, she is a legend. Dude,

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Speaker 1: missus Wilson for the freaking win dou Wi's in the chat.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that that almost happened me, Dude, that that

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Speaker 3: Imagine being Logan and then having some dude I went

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Speaker 1: Compared to I could not imagine. I'm glad that happened

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. It is It is literally a perfect

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Speaker 1: Wow, dude, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. No, you're not the a

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Speaker 2: That's a guarantee.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think from everything we we saw here, uh,

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Speaker 1: I think I think you're not the ahole for wanting

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Speaker 2: She had to bro dick this whole time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sometimes you have to just kind of What

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Speaker 2: I listened to it last time. What's Jake Cole say?

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Speaker 2: What does he say? Do you know what he says?

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Speaker 1: Give me one one time? Shame on you.

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Speaker 2: No, no, of the other one, the other one. Get off?

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Speaker 1: Get off what she said, mother, get off my dick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's great, that's so funny. But yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: the end of that story. By the way, we're live

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Speaker 1: right now. But to have her profile do it?

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Speaker 2: If only we could, like had another story.

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Speaker 1: I have some fantastic you're being blessed with the presence

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Speaker 4: It's me.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, that's right, I'm happy you're here. Sorry, what else

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I get decapitated right.

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Speaker 4: And kill you for it?

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Speaker 2: Straight to the guillotine, so true.

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Speaker 4: Off with his head. I don't even want to see it.

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Speaker 1: There we go, all right, I think it's says too right.

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Speaker 1: I'm there, Braley will confirm. Look, your legions are happy,

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Speaker 1: they're happy, they're happy. You're here. Ah.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Also my U I thrifted this.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's yeah, that's fire fire jacket bro.

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Speaker 4: Thanks nice, Thanks, and yes, Courtney Brady says, do you

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Speaker 1: We forced Sophia to do it alone in a hole

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Speaker 4: I sit in a hole that they dug out from

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Speaker 1: Stories, fine stories. Eh.

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Speaker 4: And they poke me with a stick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I do it. Yeah, yeah, they used to do it,

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Speaker 4: It's called delegation. That's right, all right, but let's delegate

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Speaker 3: Wooo.

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Speaker 4: My sister broke all my rules after I let her

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Speaker 2: This is her last chance.

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Speaker 4: And this is in our slash okay story times. Oooh

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Speaker 4: they keep coming and they don't stop coming.

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Speaker 2: Protect our op at all costs.

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Speaker 4: Yes. By the way, you can join us live on

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Speaker 4: YouTube every weekday at three pm Pacific Standard time. Just

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Speaker 1: They can't just kidding.

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Speaker 4: Whoa mixed messages so jleb Pkm says, this is something

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Speaker 4: we're you getting your names from Moby. I took her

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Speaker 4: and wanted to move closer. And I understand why she

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00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 4: didn't want to, and it would help me financially out too.

443
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Speaker 4: When she moved in November twenty twenty, she was seventeen

444
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 4: and I was nineteen going on twenty. At first, it

445
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 4: was great. She would go to school, work, had a

446
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 4: social life, helped around the house. I thought everything was

447
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 4: going great until it wasn't anymore. As time went on,

448
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 4: I realized a lot of red flags. First, Ariana stopped

449
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 4: waking up by herself to go to school slash online school.

450
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 4: My partner would go and wake her up to help. Second,

451
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 4: she would sneak out at night to go make bacon

452
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 4: and eggs. I always asked her what her safe foods

453
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 4: were to make food. She would eat oh. After her confirmation,

454
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 4: the results were wasted instead of eating. Thirdly, I noticed

455
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 4: she didn't shower because she started smelling. Fourth conversations ended

456
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: in I understand it would be okay for a few days,

457
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 4: and she would revert back. As time went by, more

458
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: red flags popped up. She wouldn't clean up her dishes,

459
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: she stopped cleaning her room. She would eat in her

460
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 4: room when my partner and I wouldn't be home or

461
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 4: we were sleeping. I noticed smells coming from her room

462
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: and they were strong and foul and more. I thought

463
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 4: she might be going through stuff, and I suggested therapy,

464
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 4: which she agreed, but never got to it, and when

465
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 4: I would mention it, she would burst into a rage

466
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 4: and lock herself in her room when she would be calm.

467
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 4: I tried to talk, and responses were heartfelt, but actions

468
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 4: speak louder than words, and it wasn't adding up. I

469
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 4: was powerless due to her being seventeen at the time.

470
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 4: After three months of this, more red flags started popping

471
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: up as the world was opening up again. Pause pause,

472
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 4: I think I think there's probably something going on with

473
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: the sister, but I don't think that's necessarily ope. As

474
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: like a sister. I don't think that's her job to

475
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe she should check into it, but if it

476
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 4: is becoming too much, maybe it's time to go back

477
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 4: to her mom's house for the younger sister.

478
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and remind me, like, was there a specific reason

479
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: why why she was saying with yeah, that a specific

480
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: reason in the vein of like, oh the mom is

481
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: not fit to care for her, or was it just

482
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: like oh, I.

483
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Speaker 2: Just go Yeah.

484
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 4: So she was working night shift at a factory two

485
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 4: hours away and wanted to move closer. And I don't

486
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: think that Opie's sister wanted.

487
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: To move closer the mom.

488
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 4: The mom was working, the mom was doing it right, Yes,

489
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: And so she moved into Ope's house presumably for like,

490
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: you know, it was easier to go to school. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah,

491
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 4: but I think that I think first it does seem

492
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 4: like OPI did already try to like check out therapy

493
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: and stuff. Yeah, maybe she needs the sister needs more accountability,

494
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 4: But it really is dependent on whether OPI has enough

495
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: bandwidth to give that accountability and make sure that her

496
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 4: sister is, you know, taking care of herself.

497
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I agree. It could possibly too large

498
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: a task for op to take on, not that that

499
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: should enable her to shame or punish her for potentially

500
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: something that could be gone.

501
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, yes, adolescents, you know things happen.

502
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: But what.

503
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 4: After three months of this, more red flags started popping up.

504
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 4: As the world was opening up again. I would wake

505
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 4: up multiple times a night to slapping belt sounds, moaning,

506
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 4: hearing her say daddy, and thumbing on my bedroom wall.

507
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 4: Nobody was there, by the.

508
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: Way, Oh dear, what, oh, oh, my.

509
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: Content Since her bed was on the wall, my bedroom

510
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 4: was if that makes sense. I would talk to her

511
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 4: about it, asking to stop or wait until we aren't

512
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 4: in the house because our sleep was interrupted and I

513
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: don't need or want to know about her spicy sleep endeavors.

514
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: Every time I would try to converse with her, simply

515
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 4: asking how she feels, she would get upset and slam

516
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 4: her bedroom door. After being expelled from high school in

517
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: March for what's another word that we can say, substance

518
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 4: substance abuse, it got worse. I couldn't first force her

519
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: to do anything, and mom advised me not to, and

520
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: CPS didn't respond to my help with her behavior. I

521
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 4: was helpless. Since her behavior got worse, and I didn't

522
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: have any leverage worth to try and make her understand.

523
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: Multiple events happened after her working full time due to

524
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: her being expelled from school, and I was still trying,

525
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: still there, trying to get her to see what this

526
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: could do to her future. The next one was my

527
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 4: last straw. In May, Mom called Ariana saying that there

528
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 4: was an unusual amount in her bank account and asked

529
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: how it got there. Remembering a past conversation that I

530
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: thought was a joke, I muted Mom and asked, who

531
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 4: is the sugar daddy? Oh okay, so right now, what

532
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 4: we know is that the seventeen year old or the

533
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: younger sister is making a lot of bad choices. Yep,

534
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: and she just got a large sum of money in

535
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 4: her account. Yeah, I think that before we move on,

536
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 4: I think that maybe this is too big of a

537
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: job for Opa.

538
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think that this is yeah.

539
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I mean I think Opee would

540
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 4: have been twenty two if her younger Yeah, if her

541
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: younger sister was oh no, sorry, twenty if her younger

542
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 4: sister was seventeen at that time. That's that's too big.

543
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: That's a lot. Defer, defer, to mom.

544
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, just say hey, like Mom, I think I don't

545
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: think I can take care of.

546
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: My sister anymore.

547
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: That's so big that it's probably even going to be

548
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: a massive challenge for mom. But at least like in

549
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: the response hierarchy like that is mom's child, so and

550
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: also opius.

551
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 4: Saying like she's not listening to anything that I say. Yeah,

552
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: And there's probably also the dynamic of like you're not

553
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 4: my mom, like you can't boss me around, you're my sister.

554
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think this is too big a job.

555
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: Oh my.

556
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: At seventeen years old, two months into eighteen, she started

557
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: talking to a guy on snapchat, and by two months

558
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: from being eighteen, she started talking to a guy on

559
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 4: Snapchat and by just conversing with him, he would send

560
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 4: her money, but she had to send part of the

561
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: money to some other person. Clearly fraud here, but she

562
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: didn't care because in the end she was getting money too.

563
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: After talking about her to try to get more info,

564
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: conclusion was that Ariana put us in danger due to

565
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: her creed es personal information like my address, my real name,

566
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: and my partner's real name, and she just gave that

567
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 4: to him, no questions asked, Oh Oh my god, she's

568
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: gonna get op like arrested.

569
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so bad, this.

570
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: Is really dangerous. Oh boy. We called CPS to inform

571
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 4: them of the situation, and they advised us to call

572
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: the police to report all this fraud. And we had

573
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 4: to get her phone and computer computer to limit the damage.

574
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: She became outraged and threw things in her room after

575
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: locking herself into it. In a matter of minutes, all

576
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 4: while we were on call with the police. She came

577
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: out of her room, went into the cabot cabinet to

578
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: take some of her prescribed medicine for sleeping and adhd

579
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 4: that I was giving in her hands due to past mistakes,

580
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: and she went back to lock herself in her room.

581
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: Oh this is not good. My partner and I got

582
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: up and ran to where I kept the key, opened

583
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 4: up the door, and there she was taking her sleeping medication,

584
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: a lot of it. She was ready to take in

585
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 4: nine times her usual dose. The police heard everything and

586
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: were on their way. They brought her to the hospital,

587
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: and even if she was psychologically cleared after that, my

588
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 4: partner and I refused to have her come back to

589
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: our house. Yeah, and I never accepted being left alone

590
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: with her and there is more to this story which

591
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: slight pause. I definitely think.

592
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: This is so outside of the scope of her being

593
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: able to yeah.

594
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: Even at twenty five, because I think this is still

595
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 4: back in time from where we are in you know,

596
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: at the end of the story.

597
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: Like she Opie's like now twenty five.

598
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, ohp he's now twenty five. I think this takes

599
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: place when Opie is but twenty Yeah, even at twenty five,

600
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 4: this would be a lot to hand.

601
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: So and again, it's like the hierarchy of responsibilities, like, Okay,

602
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: mom gives a birth to kid, Mom is therefore responsible.

603
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: So it's like ultimately it's like, hey mom, this is

604
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: ultimately your responsibility too.

605
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: And it's like I was okay, I was okay living

606
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 4: with her and helping her out when it when she

607
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: was cool with.

608
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: It, she was okay, reasonable situation, situation.

609
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: But now that that has changed drastically, I do not

610
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 4: have the bandwidth. Oh boy? Yeah?

611
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: Uh was this an okay storytime submission? So op is

612
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: literally part of our family? Yes, and I'm so sorry

613
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: I have to go hearts in the chat for op

614
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: And also if you're if you're watching this episode, yeah,

615
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: let us let us know, give us an update in

616
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: the comments.

617
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: Well there's more to this story. We still we're not done.

618
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: WHOA weeks later, she turned eighteen and went independent. My

619
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: partner and I still helped her if she needed money,

620
00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: lifts and talking. I again hinted to therapy doctors for outbursts,

621
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: mental health and dangerous decisions and behavior. She always agreed,

622
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: but never did anything. That's I think at that point,

623
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: like a person who is especially a young person who

624
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: is kind of feeling a little bit maybe out of

625
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: control with their life and not knowing how to deal

626
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: with it, they need a lot more accountability, which is

627
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: not I don't think ope's responsibility. But I don't think

628
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 4: that just saying hey, you need to go to therapy

629
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: for this person is going to.

630
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna work. Yeah, it's going to take more. Like

631
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: the mom should really step in yes and be like okay,

632
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: we're like I'm going to be here and support you.

633
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

634
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: But part of that is like therapy is mandatory basically yeah, like.

635
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: You can live with me. I'm going to pay for you,

636
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 4: but I'm going to every I don't know, Thursday, I'm

637
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: driving you to therapy.

638
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: And I wonder if I don't know what the I

639
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: don't know where they're at. I don't know what the

640
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: laws look like as far as that's concerned. But I

641
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: wonder if you do take someone to uh to I

642
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: guess kind kind of get a like a legal diagnosis,

643
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: what that kind of looks like if there's a almost

644
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: like a prescription of psychiatst of psychiatrist. But I don't know.

645
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: No, I don't know either. But it says that they

646
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: took her to the hospital in the earlier yeah, and

647
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: she was psychologically cleared, so.

648
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: So as in like she's there's not any major yeah, in.

649
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: Which she could be admitted for something.

650
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: I see, Okay, so got you. So maybe that actually

651
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: isn't a yeah on the table.

652
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. During her weeks in the CPS foster group home,

653
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: we would converse and I learned that she's actually very manipulative,

654
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: and she turned me against her then partner and friend

655
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: and vice versa. I at the time was scared, but

656
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: also upset to be portrayed as a villain after what

657
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: I had done for her. Yeah, Nonetheless, I was available

658
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: and helped her still, And then in December of twenty

659
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: twenty two, she was going out with the boy on

660
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Speaker 4: and off over the last couple of weeks. Every time

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Speaker 4: she would be on, she would try to cut ties

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Speaker 4: with us family out of her life, saying, we don't

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Speaker 4: understand how she feels. He's the love of her life

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Speaker 4: and he's perfect and we are the problem in life.

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Speaker 1: Really quick, I would love to see a poll. Do

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Speaker 1: you cut contact or not? Yeah, I'm curious too.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's really hard because that is

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Speaker 4: Op's sister who it does seem like she did have

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Speaker 4: a good relationship before this, and it seems like her

670
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: sister is kind of spiraling. Yeah, which is really scary

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Speaker 4: to watch us, like your sibling going down that path

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Speaker 4: and wanting to help them and just not knowing how.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I would either, but.

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Speaker 2: It is nobody.

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Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying. Yeah, at what point is

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Speaker 4: it affecting you?

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Speaker 2: It's a very tough it's a very tough situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I would at this point necessarily,

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Speaker 1: but probably being very intentional and probably limiting a lot

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Speaker 1: of areas of communication. Not going full no contact yet,

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Speaker 1: but like, okay, I'm checking an eye on it, keeping

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Speaker 1: an eye on it.

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Speaker 4: And also checking in with yourself. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 4: making sure or just asking yourself whether or not it's

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Speaker 4: healthy for you to be in that situation anymore, and

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Speaker 4: just maybe allowing if the time comes where she does

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Speaker 4: come to you and apologize and you know, as that moment,

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00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: allowing yourself to be there then and maybe not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Think it's also tough because it's like if they were

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Speaker 1: like both in their like thirties, it's like, Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: you are reasonably responsible for yourself. But she's right at

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Speaker 1: that age where it's like that line of like self

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Speaker 1: responsibility versus like family kind of like she's she's at

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Speaker 1: the end mirroring the end of that, she's in a

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Speaker 1: gray area. Yeah, as far as like, are we still

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Speaker 1: like basically fully taking care of her she like on

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Speaker 1: her own? I don't know it's yeah, or like or

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Speaker 1: should should they be fully taken care of her? Like

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00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: that kind of thing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? That uh, Eyler says, don't cook contact but cut support,

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Speaker 4: which I think I think.

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Speaker 2: That could be interesting a possibility.

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Speaker 4: But where was I after weeks of this gaslighting and

705
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: victimizing and that I'm mad at her and don't understand

706
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 4: I popped off? I basically told her stop your crap

707
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: and when you have a problem, stop blaming people around

708
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: you and actually look for solutions. Stop blaming us for

709
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 4: your problems. If you refer if you prefer living like this,

710
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 4: then ef it. She responds, she needs time. I respond,

711
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: I'm tired of helping you being told off for my

712
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 4: time and efforts that I'm putting in towards you. I'm

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00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 4: tired of being talked to you as if I'm stupid

714
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: and unimportant. When you finally realize what you have stopped

715
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: taking everything and everyone for granted and getting upset when

716
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: we tell you life advice and giving you help, then

717
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: my door is open. In the meantime, hope you have

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00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: the time of your life.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I basically fair, actually communicating everything

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Speaker 1: that does need to be said. Yes in the host

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Speaker 1: that finally gets through in cess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I think yes, Especially because you're not a

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Speaker 4: parent that has like a financial responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think you have to protect yourself.

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Speaker 1: First, Yeah, OPI doesn't deserve that burden of responsibility.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think so. From the grape vines, mostly, Mom,

728
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 4: I've learned that the past couple of years was rough

729
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: for her, but the pattern stayed the same. Mom would

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00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: engage in conversation with me, and then to her responses

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00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: were along the lines of, I don't talk to my

732
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: sister because she's mad at me. I need her and

733
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 4: want to talk to her because I need it, but

734
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: she's mad at me. My response to that is she

735
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 4: still doesn't get it. And now, in July of twenty

736
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: twenty four, Ariana doesn't know where to live. I live.

737
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 4: I've changed cars since, so she doesn't know what I drive.

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Speaker 4: I've asked Mom to not tell her about me and

739
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Speaker 4: not surprise me, and I hope and trust my mom

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Speaker 4: respects my feelings since she understands how much I've been hurt.

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00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: I'm now clearly showing signs of PTSD and events at

742
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: work proved me to prove that to me, and not

743
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Speaker 4: being able to eliminate this lingering amount of rage inside

744
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 4: me makes me feel like I'm not ready. Mom has

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00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: been talking to me about her and the conclusion is

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00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 4: that she has changed and now feels guilt and is

747
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 4: actually seeking professional assistance, which is progress. I've honestly grown curious.

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00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: Maybe I want to measure how better, how much better

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Speaker 4: I am? Maybe I want to test myself and see

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Speaker 4: if I'll break down in a panic a panic attack.

751
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: Maybe I want to see if she actually made progress,

752
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 4: or even I want to know the better prepare myself

753
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 4: for possible future casualties. I'm not sure. So do I

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00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 4: reach out and see if she's made progress even after

755
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: all she put me through?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Oh that's yeah, well, OPI once again thank you

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Speaker 1: for sending in you for sharing your story story. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that it just kind of hearing that last part,

759
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: it might seem that it might still be too much.

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Speaker 4: I think I think based off of Op saying, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm having panic attacks, I have a PTSD, I think

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Speaker 4: that you it doesn't sound like you're fully ready, in

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00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: which case I don't think that you should rush it. Yeah,

764
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: because hopefully the longer you you know, take, or the

765
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: time you like take to recuperate and get better, the

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00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: better that your sister becomes.

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Speaker 1: It's like the it's like the reward at the end

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Speaker 1: of the road of progress.

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Speaker 4: Continuously she keeps.

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Speaker 1: Getting better, better, better, better, and then finally it's like, hey,

771
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Speaker 1: the reward is we have now rebuilding our relationship at

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Speaker 1: the exactly exactly And I think that you know, Op

773
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: at such a young age did really try, you know,

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Speaker 1: to help and that I can't even imagine being at

775
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: twenty like to do that much. Yeah, it's it's a lot,

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00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, I think that the sister caused real,

777
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: like real damage and it is very very much okay

778
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: for Op to take her time and work on herself.

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Speaker 1: I'm i'm. It does seem that things all are trending

780
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: in a positive direction, which is good, Which is good,

781
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: and hopefully it kind of continues on that path. But

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe tell mom like, hey, I need to wait

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Speaker 1: until I'm ready, but hopefully just do everything in our

784
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: collective powers to keep sister on the road to betterment.

785
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: And maybe she's just growing and maturing and realizing that

786
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: this is what she needs to do, which is great

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00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: if that's true.

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Speaker 4: No, I agree with all of that. I think the yeah,

789
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 4: take the time that you need. Yeah, that's the advice.

790
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: Don't rush yourself.

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Speaker 1: And if you need, you know, we have a wonderful

792
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: community in the subret our size story okay, story time,

793
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: wonderful community in the day cord, wonderful community on the streams.

794
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 4: Sure also have great advice as well.

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00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely so guys, go go give Op some love.

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Speaker 2: Op.

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Speaker 1: If you see this in the episode, feel free to comment,

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00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: give us any updates and whatnot. But again thanks for

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Speaker 1: sharing your story.

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