1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. Monday edition of the Clay Travis and 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now. Plays out on 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: vacation with his family for the day, so he'll be 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: back with us tomorrow. Looking forward to having our Clay 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Travis back in the mix. Meantime, gonna be me for 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: three hours with all of you today, and a lot, 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: a lot to get to. Oh boy, they're already busy, newsbak, 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: already things happening fast. First, just to give you a 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: little sense of where things are going, We're gonna have 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: us Senator Marco Rubio joining us third hour of the program. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: The veepstakes is heating up. You know, people are talking, 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: people are saying Marco Rubio perhaps in the mix. There 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: have been some reports about that. I have some others 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: that have been taken out of the mix recently by 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Trump himself no less, and some who are certainly still 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: in the game for it. So we shall see. We 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: shall dive into the veep steaks. We have the Trump 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: rally on the Jersey Shore in Wildwood, which got a 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: lot of attention from well, not the mainstream media or 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: the Democrat corporate media, but those of us who you know, 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: want to see what a presidential campaign looks like right now. 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: Know that Trump is doing it when he can because 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: he's in court the rest of the time. Doug Bergham 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: is getting a lot of attention on the VP side 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: of things right now. I just got to say, interesting, 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: interesting the plot Dickens, governor of North Dakota, who I 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: do remember. I went back and I did a little 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: bit of a review. I remember he had some good 29 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: moments during those Republican debates. And he's a billionaire, so 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: he's not in it for the money. He's not Hillary Clinton. 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: It's not about selling everything, including your soul. It's service 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: to the country. It'd be into It's interesting to me. 33 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if it really brings that much to 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: the ticket in terms of winning a state, but maybe 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't really matter, and Trump wants somebody just that 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: he can be very pro business. Anyway, I'm getting ahead 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: of myself. We'll get into some of that. Oh, RFK Junior. 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: Trump went after him pretty pretty tough, pretty harsh stuff 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: about RFK Junior over the weekend. So for those who 40 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: keep calling in saying he'd be a great VP for Trump, 41 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: that is not gonna happen. Not gonna happen after this one, 42 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: and we've got more and more. I got so many 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: stories I don't even know what to tell you. If 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: I have time, I'll even get to this story of 45 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: the fake genocide in Canada perpetrated by nuns against Native 46 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: American students. You see this, they call the Kamloops school incident, 47 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: that was getting some attention last week. Turns out there 48 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: this mass grave wasn't actually a mass grave anyway. I 49 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: don't know. That's Canada. We'll see if we can get 50 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to that today. If not, maybe tomorrow. A lot of 51 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: things going on here, but obviously top of mind, top 52 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: of the news headlines right now is Michael Cohen, the 53 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: fixer they call him for Trump. I don't know if 54 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: that's really quite accurate. But if you want to make 55 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: a Godfather reference, you would say Consolieri, because remember Italian, 56 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: we don't pronounce that G. It's not Consiglieri. That's a no, 57 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: no Consolieri. He's a guy who is a known liar, 58 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: and yet he is testifying today, I should say, and 59 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: on the record admitted perjurer, not to somebody who lies 60 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, and on the record admitted 61 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: perjurer is testifying today in a trial in New York 62 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: City that no honest person could think serves the interests 63 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: of justice. And I truly mean that. Think of it 64 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: this way always, if you have not already in going forward, 65 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: the Trump business records criminal trial in New York is 66 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: a perfect litmus test. Anybody who thinks this is a 67 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: legitimate exercise of prosecutorial and judicial authority is a dishonest person. 68 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: It is not possible to think that what they are 69 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: doing to Trump. Some people may like it. They may say, oh, 70 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: I know this is crap, but I hate Trump, so 71 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm going along with it. Right. That's an ethically compromised person, 72 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: But it's not a It is not possible to see 73 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: what's going on here and say, yeah, this serves the 74 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: interests of the justice system. It is a purely political exercise. 75 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: And this is cut to Trump said this himself before 76 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: the trial today. So you know what this is turning 77 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: into is he's having to use the bullcrap political persecution, 78 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, legal persecution of him for political reasons. He's 79 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: having to use the attention around this trial as his 80 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to speak not only about the trial but to 81 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: campaign for president. It's going to be June before you 82 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: know it, folks, We're going to be at the RNC 83 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: and the DNC, and you know, heaven knows what's coming 84 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: this fall. But we are now on the We are 85 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: on the runway, right. I mean, this plane has taken 86 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: off one way or another. And here he is. This 87 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: is cut to saying exactly that about the political persecution. 88 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Here play it. 89 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: But the big thing today seems to be the time 90 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: some ship The Times is thrilled. I respect him for 91 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: at least letting it come out. And there it is 92 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: struck leading by a lie in every state, every sling 93 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: state leading by. 94 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: This trial is ripped. It's dishonest. It's a disgrace to 95 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: New York. It's a disgrace to the country. 96 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: I should be at campaigning now instead of sitting in 97 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: a very cold courthouse all day long. This is a 98 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: Biden prosecution. It's election interference at a level that nobody 99 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: in this country has. 100 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: Ever seen before. 101 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: This is the third world countries. 102 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Not for the USA. It's absolutely true. I could not 103 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: agree more wholeheartedly with President Trump on this. What he 104 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: says is spot on. There is zero exaggeration in it. 105 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: There's absolutely nothing about what he just said that is 106 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: even debatable by an honest person. They held this charge 107 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: until the election year. They ignored all applicable judgment and 108 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: guideline rules about what a prosecutor should and shouldn't do. 109 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: They are rigging it now actively as the trial continues. 110 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: Someone explained this to me. Trump has a gag order 111 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: against him on at least possible pain of imprisonment by 112 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: this judge, while Michael Cohen is able to stream on 113 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: TikTok about the trial, and the judge has only said 114 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: to tell the prosecutors, hey, you know, tell them to 115 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: lay off that a little bit. No, no contempt order, No, 116 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: I'll lock you up. The whole thing is a scam. 117 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: It is a sham, and it actually does affect all 118 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: of us. If they can do this to Donald Trump 119 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: in New York City, they can do this to anyone 120 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: anywhere when their power is threatened or when there's an 121 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: issue of control that they are willing to go to 122 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: the mat to address. That's what's going on. If they 123 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: can do this to Donald Trump on this charge, they 124 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: can do it to absolutely anybody. They will find something 125 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: in your tax records. They will find something in your 126 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: business practices. They will find someone to make up a 127 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: story about you from thirty years ago that you can't 128 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: defend yourself. Anybody could be accused of something thirty years 129 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: ago with no corroborating evidence whatsoever and find themselves in 130 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: a difficult position. How do you disprove it? There's no evidence, 131 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: just someone saying something. They can get you if they 132 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: can get Trump. This is a message that is sent 133 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: to the entire country, sent to Democrats too, by the way, 134 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: they always forget this, you know. The Bolsheviks are always oh, 135 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, my comrades will take care of me. It's 136 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: just the bad people are going after. Didn't work out 137 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: so well for well, go down the list, didn't work 138 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: out so well for everybody around. Stalin didn't work out 139 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: so well for you know, Robespierre during a French revolution, 140 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: which is really effectively a trial run for the socialist, 141 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: anti god revolutions of the twentieth century totalitarianisms. So, you know, 142 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: a lot to unpack here and a lot to take 143 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: a look at for not just the implications for this election, 144 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: but also what it means for the country. We are 145 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: seeing the most blatant process, the most blatant election interference, 146 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: and I would just point this out there is plenty 147 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: of reason to at least be hopeful. I think that's 148 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: a better word. Optimistic makes it sound like I think 149 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: it will happen. I'm not optimistic. I'm hopeful though, for 150 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: the country and how the country is going to react 151 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: as this plays out, as we see more of this 152 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: madness in real time, live streamed in essence from outside 153 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: the courthouse. I'm hopeful because this cannot be what the 154 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: Democrats thought it would be at this point. They're not 155 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: that clever. They're not playing eight D chess here, which 156 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: is any more DS than four D chess. As you know, 157 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be able to construct a situation like this 158 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: and say, oh, we know that it will turn around 159 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: and go in our favor. They are worried this so far. 160 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: Look at the polling data, look at the mood of 161 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: the country. This is blowing up in their faces. I 162 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: just saw, you know. I launched a Hill TV a 163 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: long time ago. I was the first show with a 164 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 1: co host by the name of Crystal Ball, who we 165 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: always got along very well. See, you can get along 166 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: with anybody, people on the left, people in the right, Anyway, 167 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: The Hill had a poll out that I found really encouraging. 168 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: Five percent of registered voters site the January sixth US 169 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: Capital riot as their most prominent memory from the White House. 170 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: People are tired of this crap. And only the diluted 171 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: core of n and MSNBC and The New York Times, 172 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: the Washington Post, only people who live in an ecosystem 173 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: that is totally controlled in totalitarian fashion, at least in 174 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: terms of the effect that has on their minds. Only 175 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: those people think that what is going on here is 176 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: in any way valid, fair, honest. If you start to 177 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: look at this from a broader lens, you can see 178 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: people are waking up. That's why I am hopeful. And 179 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: you say, oh, well, that's January six What about what 180 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: about this trial? Remember January sixth is supposed to be 181 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: the justification for all of the things that they now 182 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: do to Trump. One leads to the other in their minds. Oh, 183 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: because of January sixth, any abuse of the system, any 184 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: injustice that the Democrats commit to stop Donald Trump is 185 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: inherently justified. That's what they believe. That is actually the 186 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: core of their anti Trump machination. It's see, because of 187 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: January sixth, he's a unique threat. He'll destroy the country. Therefore, 188 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: whatever we do is okay. It is the absolutism that 189 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: you see on display with these four criminal prosecutions, not 190 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: to mention the civil trials against them, not to mention 191 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: the states making absolute clowns of themselves, meaning that people 192 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: that are involved in these processes in those states Maine 193 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: and Colorado where they try to remove him from the 194 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: ballot or at least started the process of doing so, outrageous. Outrageous, 195 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: but anything justified because of January sixth. Well, when only 196 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: five percent of the country thinks the most important thing 197 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: or most memorable thing about Trump is January sixth, you 198 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,479 Speaker 1: start to see this is fading. It's fading as a rationale. 199 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: And it's also very hard to pull off what the 200 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: Democrats are doing right now with this trial in New York, 201 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: which is you cannot claim to be saving the system 202 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: while you are destroying it, and that is what they 203 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: are doing. They are burning down the village in order 204 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: to save it. They are undermining and destroying our justice system. 205 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: They are destroying our faith in the fairness of our elections. 206 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: They are destroying our faith in our fellow Americans. Quite honestly, 207 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: the ones who are going along with this whole persecution, 208 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: and they are doing tremendous damage to the country and 209 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: to pretend that this is in good faith is the 210 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: ultimate insult. 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You know, if he wasn't running again, 250 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: none of this would have happened either, Right. I do 251 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: think it's worth taking a step back for a moment. 252 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: The guy's a billionaire. I've been to marl Lago a 253 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: whole bunch of times. It's really nice. He could have 254 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: just said, you know what, I'm done, I'm gonna play golf. 255 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm good, and you know what, that'll be fine. Got 256 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: beautiful families, got grandkids. Barren is like seven foot seven now, 257 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know fine. But no, he's in the 258 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: fight and he is not backing down one bit. I 259 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: thought this was interesting. Remember I said, this is a 260 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: perfect litmus test. And he who tells you this trials 261 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: on the up and up is either a liar or 262 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: an idiot. Freed Zakaria not a dumb guy. Not a 263 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: dumb guy. It's a pretty smart guy. Over at CNN 264 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: here he is saying, yeah, I don't think they would 265 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: have brought this against anybody whose name wasn't Donald Trump. 266 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: This was just yesterday the. 267 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: Trials against him, keep him in the spotlight, infuriate his 268 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: bass who sees him as a martyr, and even myself, 269 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: to make him the object of some sympathy among people 270 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: in general who believe that his prosecutors are politically motivated. 271 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: This happens to be true in my opinion. I doubt 272 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: the New York indictment would have been brought against a 273 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: defendant whose name was not Donald Trump. 274 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard? I mean, just take a step, 275 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: that's as gentle he can be with the CNN audience 276 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: without them and going what are you doing to me? 277 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: For Reid? 278 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to say this, for Reed of just 279 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: shaking and screaming, and they're dyed purple hair, you know, 280 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: just waving around and their nose ring falling out and 281 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: the whole thing, for Reid, what are you doing? Of course, 282 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: this would have been brought against somebody whose name wasn't 283 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I've never even heard. I didn't even know 284 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: this was a thing you could do as and I 285 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: didn't know this was even a crime that could be alleged. 286 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: You know what he did is well, that's because it's 287 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: not a crime. Again, they can do this to him. 288 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: They can do anything to anyone. The whole system is 289 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: in fact on trial right now, not just Donald Trump. 290 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: But like I said, hopeful, we'll stay hopeful. 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I see these headlines. 311 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm just keep I keep reminding myself of they're trying 312 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: to sell it with sensationalism because the legality is not 313 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 1: there or the illegality is nothing, right, so the sensationalism 314 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: has to be what they sell this with. But that 315 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the trial. Understand that according 316 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: to their own view of the law, which is already 317 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: corrosive and corrupted and obtuse. Uh, they think that if 318 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: Trump had written legal services for this and it had 319 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: actually been you know, something completely you know, have have 320 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: nothing to do with with anything, right, I mean, if 321 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: they have been legal services of this, but actually Trump 322 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: was uh, you know, sending send sending Michael Cohen's or 323 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: relative on a trip to the Caribbean because he's such 324 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: a nice guy or something, then he's committed the same crime. 325 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: The elevation of it to a felony, though, is because 326 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: it was to change the outcome of the election. So 327 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: he's using a federal election crime that is unproven and 328 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: unstated to elevate what is a minor bookkeeping I won't 329 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: even say error. Really it's a bookkeeping dispute. I don't 330 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: think that it's weird to pay legal services. Hillary hired 331 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: the you know, the dossier writers under legal services. People 332 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: do this all the time. You hire lawyer. Lord goes 333 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: out and does the thing. I mean, I think it 334 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 1: is legal services for him to be involved in a transaction, 335 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: to have an NDA with somebody. But but all that aside, 336 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: it relies and I know it's it's dizzying. It's meant 337 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: to be dizzying. You see, they're trying to they're trying 338 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: to bore you on matters of the law and confuse 339 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: you on matters of the law and then entice interest 340 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: with this Stormy Daniels and all hush money, hush money. 341 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's really, it wouldn't be that that 342 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: hard of a thing for Stormy Daniels to have been 343 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: able to prove this in a meaningful way. She also 344 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: said it didn't happen under oath. She's also changed. Even 345 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: Bill Maher came out and admitted this on his show. 346 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: She's changed her story about the encounter dramatically. It went 347 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: from yeah, again this is her allegation, Yeah, I slept 348 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: with Trump and you know whatever, and she made fun 349 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: of him to now it's oh, and his body blocked 350 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: me and I almost blacked out or something. She has 351 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: all this testimony about. Again, I don't want to get 352 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: into this, but it's quite clear to anybody. I mean, 353 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: this woman is a porn star who has sex with 354 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: completely strange men by the dozens or the hundreds. I 355 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: don't think that Donald Trump wanting to have a tryst 356 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: with her would make her just black out for some reason, 357 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: because it was so I don't know. He didn't use 358 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: force against her. She's never said that, but she's made 359 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: it seem like there was some element now of it's 360 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: she's lying. She's a liar. Michael Cohen's a liar. Michael 361 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: Cohen has admitted that even under oath, he's a liar. 362 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: He's a disbarred lawyer. He is a disgrace, and yet 363 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: the whole case turns on his word. It's a he said, 364 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: he said with Michael Cohen and Donald Trump about something 365 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: that honestly, who cares the other part of this theory 366 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: that we could talk about this, All of it is 367 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: just a house of cards. It's all a mirage, the 368 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: entire brag case against Trump. It couldn't be any more obvious. 369 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: But when you look at the roh oh, I forgot 370 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: a very important details. See, this is what happens. There's 371 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: so the case is so weak that it's a where 372 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: do I begin situation? There are so many things you 373 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: could pull on here to make the whole thing collapse. 374 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: The payment was made after the election, So how can 375 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: a payment made after the election affect the election in 376 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: a way. That's a felony under federal law that the 377 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: federal prosecutors didn't want to prosecute, and that now the 378 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: City of New York, Alvin Bragg, the district attorney, thinks 379 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: he's doing justice by overcharging a thirty four count felony indictment. 380 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: Holding this whole thing together, this is the most absurd 381 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: legal case I have ever seen at this level. I 382 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: would challenge anyone to come up with something more obscene 383 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: than this. The obscenity is, you know, is not all 384 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels and Trump. It's also gross. The obscenity here 385 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: as far as what matters to the American people is 386 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: the destruction of faith in the legal system because it 387 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: gives an opportunity to take down Donald Trump. That's the 388 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: core issue. That's the core problem, and everything else is 389 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: noised garbage. People. You notice this. They have all these 390 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: analysts going on TV, and I'll see clips of them 391 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: here and there. I mean, who watches you in anymore? Right, 392 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: I haven't been watching it in years anyway. The MSNBCC 393 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: had added, it's all the same thing, these different shows. 394 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: You watch these different analysts, and they're all getting so 395 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: into oh he said this and that, like they're calling 396 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: a sports game when any honest person should say they 397 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: should just the judge should have just tossed this whole 398 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: thing out. The judge should have tossed the whole thing out. 399 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean this, it's a farce, top to bottom. There 400 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: is no part of this trial that is valid, nothing, 401 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: none of it. Maybe the only trial though, I still think, 402 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: and you know, you know I've been saying this, they're 403 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: going to try to at least start the Jay sixth 404 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: trial before the election. They're desperate, they're desperate. The only 405 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: thing that can stop them is the Supreme Court. If 406 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court manages to weigh in and slow the 407 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: timetable down time table down. Fine, but the District Court 408 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: and the Appeals Court in DC, they will work in 409 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: tandem at ludicrous speed in order to make sure that 410 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: they can start a trial against Donald Trump for the 411 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: January sixth stuff. I firmly believe that because they they 412 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: know Joe Biden, this guy can't win a free and 413 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: fair election. And what saddens me, honestly, as an American 414 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: as we see all this is it's already not a 415 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: free and fair election. They're already cheating. They're already cheating. 416 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: And this is tough, right because we have to understand 417 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: that we're going into a game here where a ref 418 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: has already been paid off, and the only way that 419 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: we can achieve the eventually the just outcome is to 420 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: run up the scoreboard in front of the you know, 421 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: the assembled viewers, the audience, the American people in this case, 422 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: such that one paid off ref can't throw the whole thing. 423 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: But they've already paid off a ref. They've already thrown 424 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: a fix into this, and crying foul on it, unfortunately, 425 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: isn't going to help us. We're in the game, right, 426 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: you know, we can walk off the field and the other 427 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: team wins, or we can try to win. That's where 428 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: we are. There's no other option. But it's sad because 429 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: that is where we are. And you have a number 430 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: of people that are showing up at this courthouse in 431 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: New York to defend Donald Trump on this one. I 432 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: saw a bunch of them this morning appearing on TV 433 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Staten Islands, Nicole mally Attakis, who's been always very very 434 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: staunch ally of President Trump's as a New York member 435 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: of Congress, that must be of New York City. It's 436 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: not a big club. I saw a Senator Tubberville, he 437 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: was speaking out and Senator jd Vance, which this probably 438 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: will be part of our upcoming discussion here into the 439 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: VP situation. The veep steaks, as the media will call it, 440 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: I guess I will call it that. Technically I'm part 441 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: of the media. This is jd Vance outside the courthouse today. 442 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: This was just before I came on air. Play it. 443 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 4: Whether you love Donald Trump, whether you like Donald Trump, 444 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 4: or whether you're a Democrat or don't care about politics, 445 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 4: what's going on inside that courtroom is a threat to 446 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 4: American democracy. Lateies and gentlemen, we cannot have a country 447 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 4: where you get to prosecute your political opponents instead of 448 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 4: persuading voters. Joe Biden's entire strategy is to try to 449 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: distract from inflation at home and war overseas with this 450 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 4: sham trial. I just want to live in a reasonable 451 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 4: country where we try to persuade voters in our politics, 452 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 4: we don't try to throw our political opponents in jail. 453 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 4: So this is a disgrace and I wanted to be 454 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 4: here to show some support from my friend. 455 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: That is the right word. JD is not overstepping or 456 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: overstating at all. It's not exaggeration. The trial is a disgrace, 457 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: and ultimately anyone, any American of good faith, should be 458 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: able to see, or at least one who has not 459 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: had their brain rotted by the mind control and the 460 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: brainwashing and the absolutism of the anti Trump left in 461 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: this country, which is I say this a lot. The 462 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: fact that they hate him as much as they do 463 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: is one of the clearest indicators of his importance in 464 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: American politics today. The ones they really hate not the 465 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: ones they mock. The ones they really hate are the 466 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: ones that they fear fear with regard to power and 467 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: people that will block their access to it. And that's 468 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: why the more ferocious the opposition to Trump, the more 469 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: certain we can be that there is only one place 470 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: now for anyone who thinks that we're supposed to have 471 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: a system worth preserving in the first place, and that 472 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: is in defense of Donald Trump. With regard to these trials, 473 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter even if you think he was a 474 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: good president or not, if he's a good man or not. 475 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: I think he was a good president and he's a 476 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: good man, but that's irrelevant to whether or not somebody 477 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: can see as in American what is being done here 478 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: is wrong. It is wrong, and it is shameful. I mean, 479 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: Jad said it was a disgrace. True, it is shameful 480 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: that there are not more Democrats who are saying, guys, 481 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't want Trump to be president either, But this 482 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: is this is not how we do this. It is 483 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: not how we do this. Where are those voices? Think 484 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: about that for a second. How many deaths. There's Dershowitz 485 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: who's now banned from all fancy parties in Martha's vineyard 486 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: and he's not even a politician. The guy's a You know, 487 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: a writer, thinker, scholar. What other Democrats are coming out? 488 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: We will have Tulci Gabbard back on so and I'm 489 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: sure she was just on recently. She's now basically an 490 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: independent leaning right, she's right of center, so she's left 491 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. But where are these Democrats who are 492 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: willing to come out and say what is being done 493 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: to I don't like Trump, but I understand what's at stake, 494 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: and what is being done to Trump is wrong. They 495 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: won't say it. They're just out there part of the 496 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: mob of villagers with their torches and their pitchforks looking 497 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: for Frankenstein in this case Trump, And yes, I know 498 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: it's Frankenstein's monster and doctor Frankenstein's the guy in the 499 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: novel and Mary Shelley and we could talk about that. 500 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: Some of the people go, Frankenstein isn't the monster. I know, 501 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: I know, but they think he is, and they think 502 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: Trump's Frankenstein. And you understand the analogy. Eight hundred two 503 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: eight two two eight eight two. We're gonna dive into 504 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: some of your calls here and we're gonna talk VP 505 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of big things. Nicky Haley got into the 506 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: VP discussion again, some interesting stuff there. RFK Junior got 507 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: into the VP discussion again. You're gonna want to hear 508 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: that one. JD. Stephanic Berghum. Very interesting things going on. 509 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: We'll dive into that here coming up. 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And remember I have a Senator Mark 560 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: or Rubio joining us at in the third hour of 561 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: the program. And I've got to say one thing I 562 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: saw over the weekend. I think they tried I forget 563 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: where it was, but somewhere in Florida they tried to 564 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: do the whole blocking traffic thing like free Palestine. That's 565 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: what they all sound like. Do you know this is amazing. 566 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: They all have the same voice whenever they're talking free Palestine, 567 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: like very high register male, female, doesn't matter. They're never 568 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: like free Palestine. You know, they never like have it 569 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: on free Palestine. They're shrieking, reaming, and you know, purple 570 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: hair and the whole thing. It's all. I got a 571 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: central casting with these these groups. You can always find 572 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: the lunatics. I also love these people that show up. 573 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: There's this term that's used a lot now, costplay for 574 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: costume plays for people. You know, if you dress up 575 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: like Star Trek or you know, some people dress up 576 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: like Woodland creatures. I think there's another name for that, 577 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: but anyway, these guys show up. These are usually dudes. 578 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: It's usually not women doing this. Sometimes women doing this. 579 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: They show up these protests with like the cutouts of 580 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: of rubber, rubber maide, garbage cans and like a stick 581 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: because they kind of want to fight with police, but 582 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: they don't really want to fight, and they've got you know, 583 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: the whole thing is just they're completely completely nuts. But 584 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: I saw this in Florida. They had someone trying to 585 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: do the blocking traffic thing. And I saw a friend 586 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: texted this me arrested and taken off in eleven minutes. 587 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: Now that's an eleven minute highway delay, which is not amazing. 588 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: Obviously you're sitting there for eleven minutes, but you know, 589 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: eleven minutes, I can live with that. Some of these 590 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: places they do this crap. It lasts two hours, and 591 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: they've got the they've got the communists, you know, they've 592 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: got the street thugs out there. You're lying down and 593 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: screaming whenever they try to get moved, and oh, we 594 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: don't want this, this is gonna look bad on CNN tonight, 595 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: and oh we can't do it, and the whole thing 596 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be that way. Uh VP stuff coming 597 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: up here, Bergham, Haley, uh well, jd Vance, a bunch 598 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: of other names in the mix. And I want to 599 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: tell you what we found out about this over the weekend. 600 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, somebody should ask Trump about this stuff soon. 601 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe some of us on the show will 602 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: get fucked Trump soon about this stuff. You never know. 603 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: VIP email from Phil on the fourteenth Amendment? Is there 604 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: a possibility of Trump being immediately impeached as soon as 605 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: he's sworn in by Cabala Democrats. If he has charges 606 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: lodged against him, it's never ending. Do you believe they 607 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: have the gall to do it? Phil impeach as soon 608 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: as he's sworn in. I mean, if Democrats think they 609 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: can get away with it, they'll do it, you know, 610 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: if they have the votes and they think they can 611 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: pull it off. I think they realize it's probably pointless. 612 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: And there's also this other little aspect of it all 613 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: Trump wins. I think he's pretty ticked off about what's 614 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: going on. And I don't know if i'd want to 615 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: be a Democrat with a newly installed President Trump trying 616 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: to use the system to oust him and lock him 617 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: up again. I think Trump is ticked off.