1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Monday edition of The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show begins right now. Everybody. Thanks for joining 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: us from all over this great land of ours. We 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: had quite a few interesting news stories hop it over 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: the weekend and well coming into today. Much much to 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: discuss here on the show. I will say that I 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: did get sucked in to watching all three episodes in 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Binge watching fashion to the Murdoch trial, which is now 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: on Netflix. The timing of this is remarkable. The update 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: today on that case, if we have more, we'll let 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: you know. We might talk about this a little bit 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: later as well, is that the jury as Alec, apparently Clay. 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm now so deep into this. I got so deep it. 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I've gone from not knowing how to say the last 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: name to apparently the first name, even though it's written Alex. 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: He refers to himself, the defendant and the father of 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: this family as Alec Alex. I didn't know that, yeah, Murdock, 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: which I did not know that was even the thing. 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I thought, if you wrote your name A la A 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: L e X. But anyway, so I really got deep 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: in the Weeds on that trial. The Netflix show. I 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: will say, whatever you think of Netflix, the three episodes, 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: it goes by very fast, and the top line here 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: is Clay five dead bodies tied to this family over 26 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: the course of the last what five or six years 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: something along those lines, So it's a or seven years. 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: It's a remarkable tale. And the fact that the trials 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: underway right now, you're still going to see more of 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: this testimony. You're going to see a lot more coverage 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: of this because of it. We also have the mayoral 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: race in Chicago that is tomorrow. It's actually closer than 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: you would think for a mayor's race in a city 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: that is just a Democrat province, a Democrat fiefdom with 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: Lori Lightfoot. But we've said among the worst mayors in 36 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: the country. I think you could probably our Chicago audience 37 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: might be on the way in more directly on this, 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: probably think she's one of the worst mayors in the 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: United States. Will she keep her job? Very possible. We 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: also have the Desantist book coming out tomorrow. We will 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: have the governor of Florida joining us. Florida's Blueprint for 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: America's Revival is the title of the book, well, it's 43 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: about what is the courage to be free or something 44 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: like that. But the subtitle is Florida's Blueprint for America's Revival, 45 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: which kind of sounds to a lot of people like 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: the kind of books just to do book related events, 47 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: right while you can still say, oh, this is just 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: a book release, this is not a presidential campaign. Yeah, 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting. You get a media blitz and you get 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: to speak to the national audience on shows like this one, 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: and you're also talking about Florida as a blueprint for 52 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: other states around the country. Do you either Florida. By 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: the way, I tweeted about this and if people go 54 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: to our Clay in buckfeed, there's a whole podcast where 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: we discussed this deep dive. You got to subscribe to 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast the iHeart app 57 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: or on the Apple podcast app or a podcast store. 58 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: Go check it out. Fifty year low, fifty year low 59 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: in crime in the state of Florida right now when 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: you compare that to all these other states that are 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: setting all time highs and cities that are in a 62 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: total total disrepair with regard to your criminal stats across 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: the board, it's a big problem. We'll get into that too, 64 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: but fluoprint for America. I think this is a guy 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: who's got some aspirations. Not that this is a surprise 66 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: to anybody in this audience, but I know you were 67 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: fired about this. You're tweeting about of the weekend Clay 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: two stories on the on the COVID truth front. Right, 69 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: we can get to it from that perspective because obviously 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: now the pandemic is over and you know whatever. The 71 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Woody Harrelson monologue on SNL really just a little snippet 72 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: of it which we can play for everybody in which 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: he refers to the drug cartels and meeting Fiser. But 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: the biggest one lay it out for everybody. Energy Department 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: under Biden says, what about the origins of the COVID virus? Yeah? 76 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal early, I believe it was on 77 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: Sunday morning, broke a news story based on classified documents 78 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: that they had been able to review that the Biden 79 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: Department of Energy now says COVID has likely emerged from 80 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: a Chinese laboratory in Wuvan, which is something that I 81 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: think the vast majority of our audience out there believed. 82 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: But which was something buck you and I when we 83 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: were saying it two years ago, were shut down almost immediately. 84 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: There was And I saw it from a perspective of 85 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: running a media company where if you shared and or 86 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: wrote store, he's like this Facebook would just for instance, 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: which has all these idiot fact checkers. And I think 88 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: it's important to remind people out there that when this 89 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: show was accused of spreading misinformation, they were using places 90 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: like The Washington Post as sources, and that when we invited, say, 91 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: the Brookings Institute that had this story alleging that we 92 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: had in some way been spreading misinformation to come on 93 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: the show, as well as The New York Times to 94 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: tell our audience, Hey, what have we been dishonest about? 95 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: What have we been untruthful with them? While discussing, they 96 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: all said nothing. They refuse the opportunity to come on 97 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: this show. And I just loved this because Glenn Kessler 98 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: is one of these guys. He writes at the Washington Post. 99 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: He said, I fear ted Cruze w we had on 100 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: the show Friday missed the scientific animation in the video 101 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: that shows how it is virtually impossible for this virus 102 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: to jump from a lab or the many interviews with 103 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: actual scientists. We deal in facts and viewers can judge 104 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: for themselves. That's the Washington Post. And so then there 105 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: were other like the New York Times lead Buck lead 106 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: COVID reporter, that is their primary health reporter, a woman 107 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: named a Poover, a Poover Mendavilli, and I might have 108 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: screwed up that name, but anyway, she's the lead. Probably did, 109 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: but but to be fair, I screw up everybody's name. 110 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: She tweeted. Someday we will stop talking about the lab 111 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: league theory and maybe even admit its racist roots. But 112 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: alas that day is not yet here. So not only 113 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: were you not able to say what appears certainly down 114 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: to be accepted truth in many parts even of the 115 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: Biden administration, it was racist to say it, and Buck, 116 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: I kind of wish we could go back in time 117 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: and fight the battle over what we should call this virus, 118 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: because I think we should have stuck with the China 119 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: virus because it came out of a Chinese lab and 120 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: it may well have been manufactured. And the reason why 121 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: this becomes so important is this goes to the essence 122 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: of all those Rand Paul and doctor Fauci battles that 123 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: have been going on for years now. Not only did 124 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: this come out of a Wuhan lab if you look 125 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: at all the data and analyze it rationally, in my opinion, 126 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: but also doctor Fauci helped to cover up the fact 127 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: that our this leak of this virus, and that's why 128 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: he lied from the moment this all started, I believe, 129 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: and I think that Fauci lie and that whole cover 130 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: up also points us to a broader issue, a broader 131 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: problem that was true for all of COVID, which was 132 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: the following They had, as you just laid out, an 133 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: incentive to at least downplay, if not outright lie about 134 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: even the possibility that this came from a lab, because 135 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: they didn't want to be tied to the pandemic in 136 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: the early phases. The problem they then faced is the 137 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: same people, and I mean the same people go back 138 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: and trace it to individuals, to news organizations, to scientists, 139 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: those same voices em the whole COVID debate who were 140 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: telling you shut up, it didn't come from a lab, 141 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: or also saying shut up and mask up. Get shot one, 142 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: Get shot two, Get shot five, Get shot seven. Lockdowns 143 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: aren't crazy. Their credibility would have been shot. So they 144 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: had to continue to lie about the lab leak thesis. 145 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: Not only I mean, I think initially it was the 146 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: panic over, oh my gosh, what have we done? But 147 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: think about how many people would have believed the international 148 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: scientific consensus. And you have to put that in quote marks, 149 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: because that shouldn't be a thing where it's not really 150 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: a thing, at least in terms of science. It is 151 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: in terms of politics and scientists acting as politicians. The 152 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: international COVID consensus would have been shattered much earlier on 153 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: in the process if it was clear that one, their 154 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: reckless or at least the recklessness of some component of it, 155 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: led to the virus in the first place, and two 156 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: they lie to everybody about that possibility, their credibility would 157 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: have been gone. Not only is there credibility gone on 158 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: all these things, I mean, just remember all the things 159 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: that have now been proven essentially to be lies. Two 160 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: weeks that we were going to shut down but would 161 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: slow the spread. Pretty much, a lie masks the fact 162 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: that you needed all the six foot distance. There's a 163 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: great thread over the weekend buck where people were just 164 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: posting pictures of all the ridiculous things they were told 165 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: to do during COVID, and I was just it made 166 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: me angry, but also simultaneously just how is there any 167 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: sort of legitimacy and no consequences? But they told us 168 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: the vaccine would stop, infection would stop, and that had 169 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: stopped transmission. Lies. Where I think all this goes is 170 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: I think it's directly related to what's going on in 171 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: East Palestine, Ohio right now. Buck, we have a crisis 172 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: of confidence in our government. And so I don't blame 173 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: people in East Palestine, Ohio or in the surrounding community 174 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: who don't trust the EPA. Now, when the EPA says 175 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: it's safe to be in your home, Oh, your kids 176 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: can drink the water, there's no concerns at all. I 177 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: don't trust the government to be honest with me because 178 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: they've lied about all of those things that we ran 179 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: through surrounding COVID, and worse than that, Buck, there's been 180 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: no reckoning, like we need a truth and Reconciliation commission, honestly, 181 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: where the government comes out and says, hey, we got 182 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: all these things wrong and owns it and admits to it. 183 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: Because until they do that, why would I trust anything 184 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: anyone in Joe Biden's administration tells me they've been proven 185 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: to have been liars on the most important and consequential 186 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: issue of this generation so far, Why in the world 187 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: would I trust them to be honest with me on anything? 188 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: And until you acknowledge the failures and the lies, I'm 189 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: going to keep and with that same perspective. And I 190 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: think almost everybody listening to us right now has that 191 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: same perspective. It's almost when you hear the Biden administration 192 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: tell you anything, I presume that it's a why it's 193 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: a collective allusion to so many of these people went 194 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: along with this because that was what They don't think 195 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: of it as the herd, but it is the herd. 196 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: They think of it as the smart people, the science people, 197 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: and they would rather ignore this or even pretend like 198 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: they weren't a part of the problem. I mean, the 199 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: fact that you haven't had CNN anchors and MSNBC hosts 200 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: and the New York Times newsroom righte some or speak 201 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: and say we are sorry, we got this so very wrong, 202 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: We'll do better in the future, just goes to show 203 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: you it was never really about what was true. It 204 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: was always about what was politically potent in the moment 205 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: and what allowed them to have control and power. Just 206 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: think about the way all this would be covered if 207 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was still an office. I think that's one 208 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: of the most amazing things to contemplate. Pretend that Trump 209 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: was still president of the United States. The Washington Post, 210 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: in New York Times, MSNBCCNN. They would be leading the 211 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: charge on all the heart related issues from the COVID shot, 212 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: everything potentially associated with the failures of COVID. They also 213 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: don't have a sense of humor about a clay, which 214 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: you can explain to everybody via hell. But Woody Harrelson, 215 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: who's actually been in some very good roles, I will 216 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: say when we come back here in just a moment, 217 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: Wouldy Harrelson have to say about the vacs on SNL. 218 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: You know all about how woke activists have seized control 219 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: of America's schools. Now a group of investment firms that 220 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: Americans in trust with our pensions and retirements are playing 221 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: woke politics with your money without our knowledge or consent. 222 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: A few large investment firms names you know that control 223 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: trillions of dollars of your money are using those dollars 224 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: to advance their woke ideology through a progressive social scoring 225 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: program called ESG. They claim it promotes corporate responsibility. What 226 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: they're really doing is using americans hard earned money to 227 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: finance their political agenda, forcing businesses to comply or else. 228 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: Some state leaders are fighting back and more are joining, 229 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: letting those investment firms know they can't play politics with 230 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: our pensions. They can either do their jobs, maximize returns 231 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: for shareholders, or get lost. To learn more, go to 232 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: consumers Research dot org. They've been defending consumers against fraud 233 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: and abuse for decades and still are That's Consumers Research 234 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: dot Org. Consumers Research dot org to learn more about 235 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: their mission to protect consumers from woke investment firms. Welcome back. 236 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: In Clay Travis buck Sexton's show, I saw Gina Corano 237 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: formerly of Demandalorean. She's fantastic. Her Twitter feed is great. 238 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 1: She's an actress, but one with a brain who is 239 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: willing to challenge conventional authority, even if it sometimes might 240 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: be willing and potentially costing her her job. She shared 241 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: a clip of Woody Harrelson talking with Bill Maher and 242 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing what was said and when she was sharing it. 243 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: But it's basically like I missed the days when old 244 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: school liberals were super leery of big government, right, and 245 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: we're like, oh, I don't know that I trust everything 246 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: that I'm being told. Whereas now what occurs is the 247 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: people in Hollywood who are considering themselves to be super liberal, 248 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: even hippies, by and large, they go with the position 249 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: of power. And it's really fascinating to think about in 250 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: the context of let's say Vietnam, where the hippies were 251 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: the people who were standing against the United States government 252 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: and the war. Now the hippies are, oftentimes, you know, 253 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: the left wing, saying go get the shot, lock yourself 254 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: at home, don't ever come out. It's strange and Woody 255 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Harrelson seems to be an old school, committed hippie and 256 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: he went on SNL. How does SNL. One of our 257 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: writers at OutKick did a great threat on this. They 258 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: don't do anything about Mayor Pete and East Palestine. They 259 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: don't do anything about Joe Biden. I think they've only 260 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: featured him seven times in SNL since his two year tenure. 261 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: They open with Trump because it is propaganda buy in large, 262 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: but every now and then the propaganda. Veil is punctured, 263 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: it's exposed, and that's what happened. I thought with this 264 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: thirty seconds that you're gonna hear from Woody Harrelson in 265 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: his monologue on SNL on Saturday Night. Okay, so the 266 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: movie goes like this, the biggest drug cartels in the 267 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: world get together and buy up all the media and 268 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: all the politicians and force all the people in the 269 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: world stay locked in their homes and people can only 270 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: come out if they take the cartels drugs and keep 271 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: taking them over and over. I'll throw the script away. 272 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, who is gonna believe that crazy idea? That 273 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: was the only thing I watched the whole monologue, which 274 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: I never watches now, but because of this play, that 275 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: was the only thing that really didn't get a laugh. 276 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: And some of the other stuff you said wasn't funny, 277 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: but you know, live audience goes ha ha ha, I'd 278 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: like to laugh along. Didn't see anything, Okay, I'm sorry, 279 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: didn't laugh at you know, didn't laugh at that at all, 280 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: and laughed at everything else. And so you have to wonder, 281 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: why is that. Oh, that's right, because that entire audience 282 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: basically is full of people who are like, that's not 283 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: funny because they're the ones who were fooled Buck and 284 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: then almost immediately again. One of the lines and Woody 285 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: Harrelson's monologue is the biggest drug cartels in the world 286 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: get together and buy up all the media. Rolling Stone, 287 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: Woody Harrelson spreads anti vax conspiracies Daily Beast, Woody Harrelson 288 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: spews anti vax conspiracies, huff Post. Woody Harrelson rambles about weed, 289 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: anti vax conspiracy variety. Wood Here Saturday Night Live monologue 290 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: makes COVID conspiracy jokes. It is a strange world in 291 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: which we are living when people like Woody Harrelson are 292 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: speaking truth to power, and so many other people are 293 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: curled up in the fetal position, terrified to speak about 294 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: what they see all around them. Public education not what 295 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: it used to be, especially in elementary and high schools. 296 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: You'd be surprised and saddened by how much it's changed now. 297 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: Not every school in school district sunk to NulOs, but 298 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: most of them have taken a turn for the worse. 299 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: And if that concerns you, you need to hear and 300 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: listen to us talk about Hillsdale College because they understand 301 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: the importance of education for the future of our country, 302 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: and their president, doctor Larry Arne, spoke out about this 303 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: topic not too long ago. In a recent edition of Imprimus, 304 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: the college's monthly speech digest distributed to more than six 305 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: million homes. He refers to it as Education as a 306 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: Battleground Special Issue factual account of the ongoing battle over education. 307 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: Why parents and teachers not krats, An activist should guide 308 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: what kids are learning. Get a copy for yourself and 309 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: nine more copies to hand out to friends and family 310 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: by going online to Clay and Buck four Hillsdale dot com. 311 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: That's Clay and Buck four Hillsdale dot com. Act now 312 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: join the battle over education for our country's future. Sleet 313 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front line. How do 314 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: you give one theme park its own government and then 315 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: treat all the other theme parks differently? And so we 316 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: believe that that was not good policy. We believe being 317 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: joined at the hip with this one California based company 318 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: was not something that was justifiable or sustainable, and so 319 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: we said we're gonna do something about it. And so 320 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: now we're basically Disney's going to be treated like SeaWorld 321 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: is treated or like any of these others, and that's 322 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: really the fair thing to do. So I'll be signing 323 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: the bill momentarily and that will officially end the self 324 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: governing status here in Central Florida for Disney Magic Kingdom, 325 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: not feeling so magic today, play feeling like a bunch 326 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: of other kingdoms. Apparently, as you have Governor Ronda Santis 327 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: of Florida telling everybody that Disney now has to play 328 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: by the same rules as everybody else. No more of 329 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: this special this special district administrative district that they were 330 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: able to have. This is a fifty six year old arrangement. 331 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: Special tax district is what they call Disney World, a 332 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: special tax district. So it allowed self government over the 333 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand acre resort starting since its beginning. So effectively, 334 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: Disney was its own county in the state of Florida. 335 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: That's really what it means, as I understand it. So 336 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: you had Disney County and you know, assessing its own 337 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: which was assessing its own in structure and things like that. 338 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: And as anybody who's ever gotten on the wrong side 339 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: of county or local government knows, you know, it can 340 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: be very annoying and very expensive, So this was a 341 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: big perk for them and Clay. I just think that 342 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: there's a whole lot going on here right now in 343 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: this sant this world. As we mentioned, the book Courage 344 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: to Be Free comes out tomorrow. The Governor, I believe, 345 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Team they reached out to 346 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: us over the weekend. I think that governor will be 347 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: on with us tomorrow. If not, certainly he'll be on 348 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: soon thereafter. But I think this is interesting because it's 349 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: both good politics and good policy, right. I mean, people 350 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: were saying, oh, no, what, what's Disney gonna do? They're 351 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: gonna move their twenty five thousand, twenty five thousand acre 352 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: theme park to somewhere else. I don't think so. I 353 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: think that's very unlikely to happen. He points out. Other 354 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: theme parks don't have this. So it is an issue 355 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: of fairness if we're gonna be honest. But it is 356 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: also a subliminal message, or a subtle message. If you 357 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: decide to get really political and take shots at the 358 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: governor of not Tennessee of Florida, you're gonna have to 359 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: deal with the consequences. I think it works on both sides. Yeah. Look, 360 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: first of all, this was a vestige of when Florida 361 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: was not the highly desirable place to live that it 362 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: is today, and so they gave people who remember the story, 363 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: it's a fascinating one. Walt Disney decides that he's upset 364 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: because disney Land was immediately cop co opted in Anaheim. 365 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: Anybody who's ever been there, everybody else put up their 366 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: own hotels, their own restaurants in close proximity to the 367 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: park to take advantage of its popularity. So Disney does 368 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: a big analysis of where could he have a year 369 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: round park. They central on this middle part of Florida, 370 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: which is not very popular at all back in the 371 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, I mean, Okalla, kissing Me. Orlando was a 372 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: very relatively small town at the time. Goes up buys 373 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: this land up secretively, and then the partnership between Disney 374 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: and the state of Florida was massive because of the 375 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: jobs that he was bringing in. Frankly because of the 376 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: revolution that Disney let loose with theme parks, whether it's universal, 377 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: whether it's a SeaWorld. But that has changed. And I 378 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: would just point this out Buck when the don't say 379 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: gay bill as it was labeled by people who lost 380 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: this battle on the left wing. When that battle started 381 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: to get fought, the easy thing for the Santists to do, 382 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: the thing the conventional wisdom that everybody said he should do, 383 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: is not fight this battle, not take on Disney. When 384 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: Disney came out and their CEO, Bob Chapick, opposed it, Instead, 385 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: the Santists went toe to toe with Disney. And look 386 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: at what the results have been since then. Buck Bob Chapick, 387 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: the CEO of Disney, has been fired. He is no 388 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: longer running the company. Disney stock is at effectively a 389 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: lower price now than it was nine years ago, and 390 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: that's disappointing. Imagine to some of you out there that 391 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: may be longtime Disney shareholders, although I'm sure you don't 392 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: like the woke Disney version that you're getting now. I 393 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: saw it from ESPN in sports, and unfortunately it's taken 394 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: over the whole company. And Ron de Santis went out 395 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: and won reelection by nineteen points, the most of Republican 396 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: governor has ever won reelection in Florida by So DeSantis 397 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: didn't only win, he won, he dunked all over Disney 398 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: and he's made them own it. And Buck. Unless I'm mistaken, 399 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: has the new returning CEO from Disney, Bob Iger, made 400 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: any comments at all publicly on this. As he said 401 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: a word. I think that he is afraid and recognize 402 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: that his team and his company got wrecked. And this 403 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: is a sign if you are a DeSantis supporter, this 404 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: is a design, a sign design of a fight that 405 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: he was willing to have with an incredibly powerful foe 406 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: that he won. And I think it's a really substantive victory. 407 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: And that's what he is. That's his calling card. Now 408 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: if you think about it as the first time that 409 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: a major Republican figure at the state level, so really 410 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: a governor, but maybe somebody else could get in the mix, 411 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: picked a fight with or rather I shouldn't say picked 412 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: a fight, responded to a fight that was picked with him. 413 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: That's really how this went. Rohn Descantis didn't get didn't 414 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: go after Disney. Disney decided to mobilize and start making 415 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: problems for Rond descendis. Let's be clear, what they're saying 416 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: is you do what we want or our money and 417 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: our sway and our power is gonna go to your opponents. 418 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: Were gonna We're gonna get you fired as the governor, 419 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: or rather you know, get other Republicans probably in the 420 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: state legislature fired unless you do what we want. And 421 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: so there were consequences to that, to that decision, which 422 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: I think there certainly should have been. In the book 423 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: The Courage to Be Free to santiss new book, he 424 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: talks about a private exchange with chape where he makes 425 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: it clear that Chapek didn't really want to do this, 426 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: which I think is so interesting. He was pushed because 427 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: of the overwhelming pressure from his own organization. So this 428 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: is just a window into what we keep seeing, which 429 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: is it's not just the c suite. It's not just 430 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: the names that you know that are running these companies, 431 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: although sometimes they're very woke. It is the woke hordes 432 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: within these companies, right, It's the people at Lausunu who 433 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: may throw his hat into the race as well, saying 434 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: I didn't like seeing Ron de Santis going to war 435 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: with Disney because that's not what small government conservatives do. 436 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: I disagree completely with Sinunu all right in that regard, 437 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: because here's the deal, these diversity and inclusion loans inside 438 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: of the cloud, fighting back against woke corporatism, It's true 439 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: about a lot of the COVID issues, even for some Republicans, 440 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: that small government is really just an excuse to be useillanimous. 441 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: You just decide that you're you're gonna be you're gonna 442 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: be a whimp on an issue, and you go, oh, well, 443 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: we you know that's not explicitly in the you know, uh, 444 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Federalist number two seven two nine er No, Okay, Yeah, 445 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: would Gavin Newsom hesitate for one second, one second to 446 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: take action against a company that was explicitly conservative and 447 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: mobilizing for conservative purposes inside of California? You know, yeah, 448 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: within the confines of the law on his discretion, probably right, 449 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: But yes he would. We all know that. We all 450 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: assume that same thing with Hokeel in New York, same 451 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: thing with Pritzker in Illinois. They wouldn't stop for a second. 452 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: But on our side, it's, oh, we're in charge. Whoa, whoa, 453 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: let's not actually fight back. Let's just keep pretending that 454 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: we're in a neutral space. Let's talk about the neutral space. 455 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: I think that's so important. And and some of you 456 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: out there, Buck when you were out and I went 457 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: after the Brookings Institute in the New York Times. I 458 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: got some messages from people saying, why are you even 459 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: acknowledging them? Why are you even fighting them? My belief 460 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: is if somebody comes after you, you come after them harder. Right, 461 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: if somebody wants to throw punches at me, I'm very 462 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: comfortable in the public arena, in the First Amendment space, 463 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: in the marketplace of ideas, defending everything that we say 464 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: on this program. So if we get attacked now, it 465 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: has to be attacked by somebody of size. Right, If 466 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: we're going to be on the front page of the 467 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: New York Times Business section and they're trying to attack 468 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: our business claiming that we're misinforming people because of what 469 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: the Brookings Institute does, I think we're in a new era. 470 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: I think you have to step up toe to toe 471 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: and throw punches back. And I think all these people 472 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: out there who are small government conservatives saying I don't 473 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: really want to get involved in any of these fights, 474 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: I think you're losers and you're going to lose. I 475 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: just want to be left alone, make believe libertarianism. I'm 476 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: going to move off grid and don't have to gauge, 477 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna be by the way, move off grid, 478 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: be self sufficient. That's fantastic. But the idea that you 479 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: can be entirely non political sauchiese goons are going to 480 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: show up at your door too. I hate to break 481 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: it to anybody out there, but you cannot care about 482 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: the federal government and the federal tyranny. The federal tyranny. 483 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: Care like the hardest. But I think the idea of 484 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: whether Republicans need a fighter or not is not in dispute. 485 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: If you've ever landed on a website didn't seem legit 486 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: because the spelling errors, unfamiliar, unfamiliar colors, fonts just gave 487 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 1: you a bad feeling that might be part of an 488 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: attack on you where they are trying to come after 489 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: you by creating a cyber thief opportunity. Because they have 490 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: clever ways of installing codes on your computer, they can 491 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: take you to bogus websites where they can try and 492 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: steal your personal information. Your personal info then gets leaked online. 493 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: Next thing you know, there's all sorts of people taking 494 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: advantage of your good name. They are trying to steal 495 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: your identity. That's what LifeLock by Norton tries to fight 496 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: back against They detect and alert you to potential identity 497 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: threats you may not spot on your own, like a 498 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: cyber thief, taken out loans in your name, or pretending 499 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: to be you while making purchases you're responsible for. Now. 500 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: If you become a victim of identity theft, LifeLock will 501 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: assign you to a dedicated US based restoration specialist. That 502 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: person will save you hours and hours of grief. Trust us. 503 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: No one can prevent all identity theft or monitor all 504 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: transactions at all businesses. But you can join LifeLock today 505 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: and save twenty five percent off your first year with 506 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: promo code Clay Clay. Go to LifeLock dot com. Use 507 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: my name Clay that Clay as the promo code for 508 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: twenty five percent off. Don't miss a minute of Clay 509 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: in Buck and get behind the scene access to special 510 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: content for members only. Subscribe to C and B twenty 511 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: four to seven. Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sex 512 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: to show. We've been saying, and we'll talk about this 513 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: in the next hour, but I want to kind of 514 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: toss it out there. We've been talking about the looming 515 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: Trump versus De Santist battle. Now to be fair I 516 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: think that Tim Scott is going to run. I think 517 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: Glenn Youngken may run. I just mentioned Governor Sanunu up 518 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. He may run. We know that Nicky 519 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: Haley is already in vivic Ramaswamy is running. There's a 520 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: huge list of people that are going to run for 521 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: president United States, and maybe one of them catches fire 522 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: and it doesn't end up being a Trump versus De 523 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: Santis battle royale. But as we sit here at the 524 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: end of February preparing for March buck there's an article 525 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: out there I was reading this morning, I think in 526 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: the Times or the Wall Street Journal, I'm not sure 527 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: which one, talking about Iowa, how unsettled it is. We 528 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: have a lot of you listening in Iowa. First week 529 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: in January is the Iowa Caucus. So the older you are, 530 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: and I'm getting old, I'm not gonna lie. Like eight 531 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: months passes and like the time you could snap a finger. 532 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: So we're in March, and you guys know, everybody out 533 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: there does Thanksgiving. Christmas is kind of a dead season. 534 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna be at the Iowa fair Ground, everybody eating, 535 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, fried twinkies and talking to the Iowa people 536 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: before you know it, and this battleground is I saw 537 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: where there's schedule that I believe now the first Republican 538 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: debate for August, which even seems to me a little 539 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: bit late, because when you're voting in Iowa in the 540 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: first week of January right now is when it's scheduled. 541 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: That seems kind of crazy to me. But and I 542 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: want to get into this in more detail, but I 543 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: want to tease it and talk about it the facts 544 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: here buck reading from Fox News, Rona McDaniel says that 545 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: in order to be on the debate stage with the 546 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: RNC debates, Trump will have to make a loyalty pledge 547 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: that he will not run as a third party. And 548 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: here's the direct quote. We may have the audio of 549 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: this sooner or later, but here's Rona McDaniel. We're saying, 550 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: you're not going to get on the debate stage unless 551 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: you make this pledge. She said it on State of 552 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: the Union on CNN yesterday. Anyone getting on the Republican 553 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: National Committee debate stage should be able to say I 554 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: will support the will of the voters and the eventual nominee. 555 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 1: They're all going to sign it. I really do I 556 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: think President Trump would like to be on the debate stage, 557 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: thoughts buck. First of all, how do you enforce it? 558 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: Because you can sign anything and then say well, I 559 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: changed my mind. So I would imagine that's still out there. 560 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: But this is a big part of the story as 561 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: we move forward. Look, I give Trump more credit than 562 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: thinking that he would run as a third party candidate 563 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: if he were to lose a free and fair primary. 564 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: I think he loves the country too much to ensure 565 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: eight years now of Democrat rule from the White House. 566 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: I believe that I would not bet my well. I 567 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: don't own a house, but I would not bet my 568 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, my last dollar on that. I definitely would 569 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: not bet my house. Trump not running is the third right. Okay, 570 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: you own a house, you would not bet your house. 571 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: I would. I would not bet, you know, whatever is 572 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: most valuable to me as a possession. Because I can't 573 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: rule it out as a possibility, what I can say 574 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: is I think that this is going to be used 575 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: by the left for sure to further antagonize things in 576 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: the Republican primary. This is gonna be a bruising primary. 577 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: I think a bruising primary is generally to the benefit 578 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: of the fighter who emerges victorious. I think it would 579 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: sharpen Trump up if he were the one that emerges 580 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: as the as the victor, And it would certainly add 581 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: a whole new layer to Ronda Santis if he would 582 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: have pushed it or whomever. You know, Vivek Rahmi Swami 583 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: is a super nice, super smart guy. You know, let's 584 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: not count anybody out. But we got two main contenders 585 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: right now based on the polls. I gotta say, I 586 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: think the good news is that it's kind of hard 587 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: to get on as a third party candidate if you 588 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: run as a Republican, just based on what it would 589 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: require in the ballots in the different states. So he 590 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: couldn't mount a serious third party challenge. So he would 591 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: really only be mounting a spoiler third party challenge, and 592 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: that would be the tear of the country down option. 593 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: And I don't believe Donald J. Trump would do that, 594 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't get my house on it. My concern 595 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: is Democrats, who claim that they're terrified of Trump, would 596 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: do everything they can to bend over backward to get 597 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: him on the ballot in Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania and Georgia 598 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: and New Hampshire, and Nevada in Arizona, the states that 599 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: are actually toss ups just in an effort to drag 600 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's basically worthless presidency into a second term. That's 601 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: my biggest fear here. But we'll talk about that and 602 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: more when we come back. Lots of great stories out there. 603 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: Monday edition of Clay and Buck. Thank you all for 604 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: hanging with us.