WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Goin' Down

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<v Speaker 1>Hi and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals boot podcast, the Going Down, Down, Down Down edition,

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<v Speaker 1>as we take an in depth look back at the

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<v Speaker 1>bengals eighth straight loss to begin the season, a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four to ten defeat in London to the La Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, locker room comments from

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<v Speaker 1>players and coaches, and Dave lapp them will join me

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<v Speaker 1>for postgame analysis. Plus, in this week's fun Facts Conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll meet the person under the pads as I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to a wide receiver who seems to make a spectacular

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<v Speaker 1>catch every single week, Odd and Tate. All of that

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<v Speaker 1>is straight ahead. But first, here's a quick reminder that

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<v Speaker 1>since flight attendants. I spend a lot of time on planes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a tremendous amount of respect for flight attendants,

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<v Speaker 1>especially after an eight hour flight in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the night back from London. While most of the passengers slept,

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<v Speaker 1>the flight attendants stayed awake, served a couple of meals,

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<v Speaker 1>brought the drink cart through the cabin several times, cleaned

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<v Speaker 1>up after everybody, and did it all with a smile.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's to all of the flight attendants who do

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<v Speaker 1>what they can to put the friendly in the friendly skies.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's get to this week's game. In recent weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor has faced abundant criticism over his heavy use

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<v Speaker 1>of eleven personnel. In case you're not familiar with the

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<v Speaker 1>universal numbering lingo and football, the first digit is for

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<v Speaker 1>the number of running backs on the field and the

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<v Speaker 1>second digit is for the number of tight ends. So

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<v Speaker 1>eleven personnel is one running back, one tight end, and

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<v Speaker 1>three wide receivers, and the Bengals have used that grouping

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<v Speaker 1>more than any other team in football this year. It

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<v Speaker 1>obviously hasn't been working very well, and on Sunday at

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<v Speaker 1>Wembley Stadium, the Bengals decided to mix things up. They

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<v Speaker 1>made frequent use of multiple tight ends and it had

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<v Speaker 1>two positive effects. Number One, Tyler Eifert was a big

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<v Speaker 1>weapon in the passing game. Dalton looks to throw his

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<v Speaker 1>passage medal cot near midfield by Tyler Eiffert and Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Eifert makes it to the Rams forty two yard line

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<v Speaker 1>for a huge gain on third down and five and

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<v Speaker 1>an ihop first down. Eiffert finished with six catches for

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four yards, but that wasn't the biggest positive. Having

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<v Speaker 1>Eiffert and cj Uzamba on the field at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time brought the bengals anemic rushing attack to life. Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>come out with double tight ends, but Eiffort detaches and

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<v Speaker 1>goes out wide to the right. Here's a run up

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<v Speaker 1>the medal mix and breaking tackles as he sprints forward

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<v Speaker 1>between the hash marks for a first down gain. He

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<v Speaker 1>runs for eleven now to the thirty six and it's

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<v Speaker 1>an ihop first down. Man Old Man, David Long, Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a junior because the senior mixing just ran

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<v Speaker 1>you over. Mixing ran for fifty three yards on ten

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<v Speaker 1>carries in the first half and for a quarter and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, the Bengals went toe to toe with the

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<v Speaker 1>high powered Rams. First and ten. At the Bengals thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one golf back to throw throws over the middle. It

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<v Speaker 1>is caught at the five yard line and Reynolds takes

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<v Speaker 1>it into the end zone for a Rams touchdown. That

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Golf touchdown pass gave the Rams a ten three

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<v Speaker 1>lead in the second quarter. The Bengals answered with a

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five yard drive to tie the game. Second and goal,

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<v Speaker 1>just short of the one yard line. Dalton is under center.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody bunched in tight. Stanley Morgan goes in motion from

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<v Speaker 1>left to right. Now motions back to the left. They

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<v Speaker 1>fake up him. They throw the Mixing names, he catches it.

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<v Speaker 1>Touchdown Bengals as Dalton floats one to Mixing at the

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<v Speaker 1>goal line for a Bengals touchdown. Was career touchdown pass

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<v Speaker 1>number one ninety seven for the Red Rifle, pulling him

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<v Speaker 1>even with Ken Anderson for the Bengals all time franchise record.

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<v Speaker 1>But the tie score only lasted for one minute and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one seconds. Cooper Cup goes in motion. They give

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<v Speaker 1>it to him. Now they pitch it back to Golf

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<v Speaker 1>for a flea. Flicker throws for Cup wide open. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals defender falls down. Cooper Cup sprinting down the far

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<v Speaker 1>sideline and he will take it to the house. Unreal

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<v Speaker 1>Rams touchdown. That's sixty five yard touchdown gave the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen ten halftime lead. And get these first half

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<v Speaker 1>numbers for wide receiver Cooper Cup. He had five catches

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<v Speaker 1>and they went for gains of twenty one, twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, twenty three and sixty five. That's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five yards in the half. On the opening drive

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<v Speaker 1>of the third quarter, Cup added catches of fifteen and

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<v Speaker 1>forty to finish with seven grabs for two hundred twenty yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Several of those catches came with Tony McCrae in coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to him about it after the game. I

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<v Speaker 1>could have competed well better against him than I did today.

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<v Speaker 1>He shouldn't have he shouldn't have had the yard as

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<v Speaker 1>he had, but he worked for it, so kudos anything

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<v Speaker 1>about him in particular that makes him so tough. Smart player,

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<v Speaker 1>understands what you're doing to him. He vet guy. You

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<v Speaker 1>can tell he's not only a good athlete, he understands

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<v Speaker 1>the game. You are visibly down about the outcome today,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's understandable. Why are you taking this one especially

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<v Speaker 1>hard personally? Yeah? I feel like I prepare well, just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't execute the way I should have executed it today.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever you take a loss, shoe, look at yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at myself right now. Mccraig's honesty is commandable.

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<v Speaker 1>But Cooper Cup's huge game wasn't all his fault. I

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<v Speaker 1>asked Dave Lapham why Cincinnati could not cover Cup. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the bank were their own worst enemy in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of cases, with bad discipline in their own coverages.

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<v Speaker 1>He had huge cavities. I mean a guy like that

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<v Speaker 1>coming into the game with over fifty catches. He was

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<v Speaker 1>second in the NFL and he was fifth in yards,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's not like you know that he

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<v Speaker 1>can't make play. So for him to be as open

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<v Speaker 1>as he was at times, and you know his Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>hurt themselves. But the guy is a great player. Shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>he's fast, he's good hands, I mean, he's smart, catches

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<v Speaker 1>the heck out of the football. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>coming in he was in the top five in both

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<v Speaker 1>categories and second and catches. So you don't you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to you don't want to have a guy like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get off on you like he did, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know he was capable of it coming into the

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<v Speaker 1>game based on his Prouder stats. So the Rams were

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<v Speaker 1>up by seven at the half and heading into the game,

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles was twenty one in oh with a halftime

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<v Speaker 1>lead under Sean McVeagh. The key to that stat is

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<v Speaker 1>adding to halftime leads, which the Rams did on their

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<v Speaker 1>opening drive of the third quarter. Sean McVay covering his

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<v Speaker 1>mouth with his play sheet as he describes what he

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<v Speaker 1>wants into the helmet radio of golf. It's a toss

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<v Speaker 1>sweep to the left and Gurley down to the five

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<v Speaker 1>toward the pylon. Touchdown Rams. That made a twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to ten and that was it for the Rams offense.

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<v Speaker 1>They punted on their final four drives of the game. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals couldn't capitalize. Third down and seven, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>at their own twenty four. Dalton catches the shotgun snap

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<v Speaker 1>and he sacked. He'll drop back to throw Andy will

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<v Speaker 1>be sacked by Aaron Donald, who pile drives him into

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<v Speaker 1>the Wembley turf for a loss of three. Dalton under

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<v Speaker 1>pressure and he will be sacked for the fifth time today.

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<v Speaker 1>Back at the twenty eight yard line. Down by fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>with a little more than five minutes to go, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals had one last good chance to make it a game,

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<v Speaker 1>but they needed a touchdown on fourth and goal from

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams six. Empty backfield for Andy Dalton, who waits

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<v Speaker 1>the eleven yard line for the shotgun snap quick throw slamp.

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<v Speaker 1>It is caught and the tackle is made. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>will not convert tackle made it to three yard line

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals on the past the Stanley Morgan Junior

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<v Speaker 1>do not get in. That was the sixth time this

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<v Speaker 1>year that the Bengals have driven into the red zone

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<v Speaker 1>without scoring a single point. Before the game was finished,

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<v Speaker 1>they made it seven times from the nine yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>Final play of the game, Dalton, looking to throw, scrambling

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<v Speaker 1>to the right eyes in the end zone, cocks the arm,

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<v Speaker 1>throws into the back of the end zone, battered away

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<v Speaker 1>intended for Auden Tate, and the game is over. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals remained winless. They are oh and eight for the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth time in franchise history. They fall to the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>today by the final score of twenty four to ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton finished with three hundred twenty nine passing yards and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals ran for one oh four that's roughly twice

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<v Speaker 1>what they've been getting on the ground per game, but

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<v Speaker 1>the combination of goff to cup killed them time to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>with Lap after the game. Got the running game going

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in the first half, and um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're using your multiple tight end packages and they were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how to how to match up

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<v Speaker 1>with it, and you guys, you guys gashed them a

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<v Speaker 1>few times. We did. You know that was encouraging. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought our guys up fun did a great job

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<v Speaker 1>backs back Sneward hit it. We're doing an excellent job there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then tight ends factored in as well. But that

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<v Speaker 1>was certainly good start to the first half. So um.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they didn't run the ball real well, but Goff

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<v Speaker 1>started taking advantage of the middle of the field. It

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<v Speaker 1>looked like quite a few times in Cooper Cup. You

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<v Speaker 1>know all about these guys. I mean that guy's he's

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<v Speaker 1>something special, isn't he. Yeah, they got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>talented players and that's why they went to the Super

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<v Speaker 1>bowlash year. They got a lot of faith in them.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it works together. You know, we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we put pressure on there and claps the

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<v Speaker 1>pocket so that it didn't have the time to throw

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<v Speaker 1>down the field and um never sometimes we have some

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<v Speaker 1>poor zone discipline there on the back end, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got better job there. Had a couple of interception opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>in a game like this, when they're there, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to you gotta catch him right. You can't let them.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't let him. So three hands it was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the difference in winning it losing. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to create some turnovers and we certainly had some

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities there and guys, I gotta step up and make

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<v Speaker 1>those plays. Those can be touchdowns the other way, big explosives,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, game changing plays and we gotta find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to make them. Alex Erickson ended up with six

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<v Speaker 1>catches for ninety seven yards, including that fifty two yard

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<v Speaker 1>or up the sideline. Tyler right for six catches for

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four yards, So there was some distribution of football

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<v Speaker 1>and tight made some big plays for you. They took

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown away there at the end of the football game,

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<v Speaker 1>but it looked like you know, Andy had he set

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<v Speaker 1>a record for three hundred yard passing days. He was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thirty five for fifty two three twenty nine yards

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<v Speaker 1>and a touchdown, So you guys were moving the football

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<v Speaker 1>we were just too many reds and opportunities that got

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<v Speaker 1>away from us. You know, we have the two we

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<v Speaker 1>ended up inside the tent at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>game with no points and situations we had to go

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<v Speaker 1>for and fourth down three points wasn't gonna help us stare.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we had plenty of times there on the

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<v Speaker 1>red on fringe where we went backwards and either got

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<v Speaker 1>knocked out of field goal range or took ourselves out

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<v Speaker 1>of fourth and go for it situation. So that was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the difference in winning and losing. And that one drive,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he had four straight fourth down conversions. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you just kept kept going forward and making the conversience,

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<v Speaker 1>except like you said, when it was in the deep

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<v Speaker 1>in the deep red zone, and you know that that

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<v Speaker 1>obviously becomes a different dynamic a little bit. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys had a lot of confidence what we're asking to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when you feel that energy, there's situations where

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<v Speaker 1>we felt like we needed to go for it to

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<v Speaker 1>give ourselves the best chance one of the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>our guys stepped up and executed. I played on a

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<v Speaker 1>team that started all eight coach in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>late seventies and our mindset at the bye, there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really a buye. But at the halfway point we said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go right in the first half, So that's one

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<v Speaker 1>season that's over with. Let's start the second half and

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<v Speaker 1>make this the second season and see if we can

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<v Speaker 1>win some football games. We ended up winning half of them,

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<v Speaker 1>went four and four. Is that kind of the mindset now?

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<v Speaker 1>It is, you know, And we still got to take

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<v Speaker 1>it one game at a time, starting with a divisional

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<v Speaker 1>game at home, which is which is one we'd certainly

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<v Speaker 1>want to get after they got us on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>and the pie comes at the right time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we get a chance to get some guys healthy, get

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<v Speaker 1>our depth back and make a charge here on the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of the season. And I know guys are

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<v Speaker 1>believing that we're close. We're there. We can we can

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<v Speaker 1>break through this barrier man and start winning a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of football games. And we're close. We just gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>it done. Bengals are oh and eight for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time since OH eight in the second half of that

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<v Speaker 1>season they went four to three and one and then

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<v Speaker 1>one the AFC North in two thousand and nine. Now

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<v Speaker 1>time for some postgame analysis as Dave Lapham and I

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<v Speaker 1>discussed the bengals fifteenth loss in their last sixteen games.

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<v Speaker 1>A few things stood out to me after this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Lap number one, too many third and long conversions for

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams against the Bengals defense. Number two squandered opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>to intercept passes unofficially three of those today. And number

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<v Speaker 1>three too much Cooper Cup twenty saiving yards the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>could not stop. Number eighteen for the Rams. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>one that made a lot of those third and long

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<v Speaker 1>plays too. I mean, he was, he was phenomenally. He

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<v Speaker 1>had what seven catches for two hundred and twenty yards,

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty one yards of catch, sixty five yard touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>He was. He was magic out there, particularly in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half. You know, I thought that originally in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half the Rams had some problems matching up with

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<v Speaker 1>the two tight end formation and running game. The running

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<v Speaker 1>game got started pretty well. Joe Mixon had over fifty

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<v Speaker 1>yards rushing in that in that first half. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again, kind of the circumstances the game dictate

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<v Speaker 1>you had to get away from that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And and he throws it fifty two times. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he throws for over three hundred yards to set a

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<v Speaker 1>record for three hundred yard passing games in the franchise history.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, you know, he much rather would run it

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two times and win the football game. I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that right now. So you know, obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not enough, not enough points. You can't can't win in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL scoring ten points, you can't win in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Given up, you know, third and ten or more as

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<v Speaker 1>many times has occurred, and uh, you know that honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some some discipline problems with zone coverages, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the back end of things that that caused some problems.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, it's hard to be encouraged by a fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>point loss, but one building block for the Bengals was

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they outrushed the Rams. We know about

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<v Speaker 1>that running game disparity this year that's been so bad

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bengals. Well they did outrush one of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL's better rushing teams. Yeah, they're not running out like

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<v Speaker 1>they have in the last couple of years, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they wanted to run involve better than they

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<v Speaker 1>did tonight. Um and the Bengals did show some life

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<v Speaker 1>that ground game, Like I said with the first half,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly with the two tight ends set that I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Rams had to make some adjustments with a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and how they were going to come out

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<v Speaker 1>and handle it. So unfortunately, again you know, too little,

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<v Speaker 1>too little, too late kind of scenario. And the problem

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<v Speaker 1>was in the red zone again, a couple of opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>down the stretch of the game where come away with

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<v Speaker 1>no points and a couple of red zone opportunities, want

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<v Speaker 1>to overturn touchdown catched and you know rightfully so, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the ball didn't move, the ball didn't bounce, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was that close to be in a touchdown for aud

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<v Speaker 1>and Tat and that would have said another record for

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton if that had happened. But again, these records

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<v Speaker 1>ring hollow to him if they don't win football games.

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<v Speaker 1>He would be the first one to say that. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, he said it in the postgame show. Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor's message to the team after the game. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to treat it like were zero and zero going to

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<v Speaker 1>the buy come back as if it were the first game.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's not, but that's what they have to try

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<v Speaker 1>to put into their minds and start the second half

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<v Speaker 1>of the season in much better form. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you just got a reboot basically, you know, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what everybody was, you know, echoing Zack's comments, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after the game in the postgame locker room, and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mentioned to Zach Wan to talk to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I've been there and I lived on don't

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<v Speaker 1>know on eight team, and we basically said, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no buy back then, but we said, we're

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<v Speaker 1>at the halfway point. Hasn't worked out. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>put that aside as seasons over with. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>worst season we ever experienced. I start a second season

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<v Speaker 1>and see what we can do. And we ended up

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<v Speaker 1>four and four. And his response was, that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about doing. But you know, we're not looking

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<v Speaker 1>at eight games, an overall eight game record. We got

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta go beat the Baltimore Ravens, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>division opponent. They spanked us in Baltimore. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>we want to get off, you know, off on the

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<v Speaker 1>right track to start the second half of the season

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<v Speaker 1>with a division win. And you know, that's the mindset

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<v Speaker 1>you have to take. And right now, during the bye week,

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<v Speaker 1>I think as much as try to get healthy physically,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to get healthy mentally and come back with

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<v Speaker 1>that frame of mind. And and you know, maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 1>start to get some players back that they desperately need

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<v Speaker 1>to add to their depth, you know, and some guys

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<v Speaker 1>who played more snaps than they thought they would probably

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half of the season. If they get

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<v Speaker 1>some guys returning, that could be beneficial down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>How did they handle Aaron die in your opinion, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I thought pretty well. I mean he had the one,

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<v Speaker 1>the one big, you know, tackle for loss. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it takes a village to handle him. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think they recruited everybody in the village, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody had had a hand in it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even even when you with that said, when you're doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>it creates one on ones for foul or another guys

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<v Speaker 1>that just you know, rockers, they all take advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>their opportunities and they love having a teammate like Aaron Donald.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna every time you come to the line of experiments.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to identify him the quarterback. Everybody has to

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<v Speaker 1>identify him and make sure you give four hands and

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<v Speaker 1>four eyes on the guy prior to that game. Lap

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<v Speaker 1>we were standing on the pitch, as they would say,

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<v Speaker 1>at Wembley Stadium and watched A J. Green go through

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty aggressive workout. I suspect he'll be back for

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<v Speaker 1>the next game against Baltimore. What do you think I

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<v Speaker 1>do too? I mean, I think so, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a there's a laundry list of guys

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<v Speaker 1>that might be able to come back. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it, dark Quest and arms at the hamstring,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's aggressive depending on the severity of the hamstring

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<v Speaker 1>and where it's pulled. The higher up at the hamstring,

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<v Speaker 1>the worst the issue is. So I'm not sure about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Draker Patrick with his knee, Carl Lawson with his hamstring,

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<v Speaker 1>John Miller with the groin. I mean, there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a few guys that you know might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>make their way back. So obviously the depth will be

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<v Speaker 1>significantly better down the stretch of start getting some of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys back, and uh, you know they're can Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>real good football players are the guys have probably played

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<v Speaker 1>snaps that they weren't expecting necessarily to play in the

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<v Speaker 1>positions that they're playing them in. But that's just going

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<v Speaker 1>to add to the overall depth of the football team

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<v Speaker 1>for the second half of the season and during the

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<v Speaker 1>bye week. Man, it's a two step process. You get

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<v Speaker 1>yourself physically right, you know, with treatment and rest, and

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<v Speaker 1>mentally right, you know, you got to get your mind

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<v Speaker 1>right to come back and turn it around in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of the season and you can get some ws,

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<v Speaker 1>get some victories under their belts. The Bengals have had

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<v Speaker 1>five previous oh and eight starts in their history. On

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<v Speaker 1>four of the five previous times that happened, they won

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<v Speaker 1>game number nine, So we'll see if they can do

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<v Speaker 1>it this time around. Back home at Paul Brown Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>against the Ravens and a couple of weeks. Ravens are

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<v Speaker 1>five and two and currently have a two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half game lead in the AFC north over Pittsburgh. The

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<v Speaker 1>two and four Steelers have a home game on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night against the Windless Dolphins. Now time for this week's

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<v Speaker 1>fun Facts interview, where we get to know the person

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<v Speaker 1>under the pads. This week, it's a member of last

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<v Speaker 1>year's rookie class who has to be among the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>leaders in spectacular catches so far this season. Time for

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<v Speaker 1>some fun Facts with wide receiver Auden Tate born in

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, but went to high school and college in Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>When people ask you where you're from, what do you say?

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<v Speaker 1>From Armo, South Carolina, live in Tampa Bay, Parsley, but

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<v Speaker 1>from Irma, South Carolina. Why did you move to Florida

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<v Speaker 1>when you were a kid. My dad's a pastor. You

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to start to church down in Tampa Bay. You're

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<v Speaker 1>six five. Were you always the tallest kid in the neighborhood?

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<v Speaker 1>Ni him on Grossberts about nine grade. Before that, I

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<v Speaker 1>played like running back and point guard and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured you must have played basketball at some level.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you good or just tall? No? I I was

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<v Speaker 1>good at high school and middle school. Going out, I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't get to play my senior year, I told my LCL.

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<v Speaker 1>But my junior stuff, I was like, oh, county and

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<v Speaker 1>we went to State my sophomore year. So I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty pretty high, pretty straight. We're talking to

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<v Speaker 1>autumn Tate. You were one of the most heavily recruited

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers in the country when you were senior in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. What's your best story about a famous coach

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<v Speaker 1>showing up at your school or showing up at your house,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably say, um, when a hardball. When he left

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine US and went down to Michigan, like I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was like a couple of weeks later he

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<v Speaker 1>was at my house. Now he was at my school,

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<v Speaker 1>like at the school house. It was just weird because

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember him from the forty nine ers and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, now he was at Michigan. That was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy to me at that moment where the

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<v Speaker 1>other kids say there was a lot of people just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get like pitches and autographs with him because

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.800
<v Speaker 1>they remembered them too from when they went to Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Aye and all this stuff. Are doing fun facts with

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<v Speaker 1>autumn Tate. Do you remember what college reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>you first and how that felt us University of South

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<v Speaker 1>Florida got our first scholarship before. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>Alonzo Game my junior year. I remember that. Yeah, pretty exciting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely knowing that my parents ain't had to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>no college. Yeah, he went to Florida State and played

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<v Speaker 1>for Jimbo Fisher. I got to know him when he

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<v Speaker 1>was the offensive coordinator at the University of Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 1>he could be pretty rough on guys back then. Describe

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship with him when you were playing for Florida State,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, Yeah, he's very like intense. You can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of use I wouldn't say ferocious, but he's very

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<v Speaker 1>intense when he on the field. He about his business,

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<v Speaker 1>about his business. Feel. Yeah, I mean we had a

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<v Speaker 1>good relationship. I definitely had growing paintings at first, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to be accountable and more mature and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But growing up more and more like throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the years, I started to see like more stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we had a great relationship. You spent

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<v Speaker 1>three years with the Seminoles. Your final year you led

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<v Speaker 1>the acc and touchdown catches and did it despite playing

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<v Speaker 1>much of the year with a separated shoulder. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you manage the pain? To be honest, I'd say just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing my other brothers out there, my other teammates from

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<v Speaker 1>Florida State. You know, we had a good bound when

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<v Speaker 1>I was there, so, you know, seeing them boys out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to do everything in my power to

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<v Speaker 1>get out there, you know, whether I was in pain

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, just find a way to make impact. Was

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<v Speaker 1>that a situation where you would dread a hit to

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<v Speaker 1>that shoulder. Oh yeah, definitely. I got hit a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times, especially Miami cams get hit a lot in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's just it is the generally kind

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<v Speaker 1>of running, so you just kind of rolled with it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing fun facts with autumn. Take the Bengals drafted

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<v Speaker 1>you in the seventh round. Was your phone ringing off

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<v Speaker 1>the hook from teams thinking that maybe you wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>picked and they could try to sign you as an

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<v Speaker 1>undrafted free agent? M Yeah, I was like, actually enterprise.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to go to the Eagles undrafted contract thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like like really like about to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the way, and then I got a call from the Bingles.

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<v Speaker 1>When you did get that call from the Bengals, who

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<v Speaker 1>is the most excited person in the room. Probably my

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<v Speaker 1>mom probably, yeah, probably my mom, my dad, They're probably

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<v Speaker 1>most too excited. Were the tears flowing? Yeah? Yeah? For them? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and for you. Didn't represent the culmination of all the

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<v Speaker 1>hard work and everything you had done up until that point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of feel like I got slided to with

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<v Speaker 1>my forty yard dash and then my shoulder injury. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, still hear my name calls, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing. A lot of people don't. You're only in

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<v Speaker 1>your second year, so you haven't made the really big

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<v Speaker 1>bucks yet. But what do you like to spend your

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<v Speaker 1>money on? Movies? Movies? Movies. I'm always out of movies,

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<v Speaker 1>and I prefer to go to the movies rather than

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<v Speaker 1>get it on DVD. I like this experience is going there,

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<v Speaker 1>give him a popcorn. I see sitting down and just

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<v Speaker 1>watching a movie. So yeah, movies, definitely, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing like being in that darkened room with a

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<v Speaker 1>big screen and you can zone everything out right, see exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I love. I'm probably gonna be the rights practice. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a couple of all time favorites? Atl? Dark

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<v Speaker 1>Night Dark Knight Rises? And Damn Joker was really good too.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised his performance. That was real good too.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could meet anybody in history, actor, athlete, politician,

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<v Speaker 1>religious figure, whatever, who would that person be? I pros

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel Washington. He's the same, real, insightful, smart, very self

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<v Speaker 1>aware about things. I just want to like just rite

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<v Speaker 1>with him to see what hit at How you think

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<v Speaker 1>the best walk in the world. The Denzel Washington strut

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about his walk. I think that's very unique.

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<v Speaker 1>The training day, great role right there. All right, Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a talent, a hidden talent that is not

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<v Speaker 1>related to sports? I used to like to read a

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<v Speaker 1>lot high school college. I don't do it as much

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<v Speaker 1>no more, But I mean that was it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really got too many of the hitting ones. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much open book on the flip side. Is there something

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<v Speaker 1>that you are just terrible at that you couldn't met?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm awful at that thing. Hitting the baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I was good at like catching and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But hitting it, I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I ever hit it makes you feel any better?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Lebron James take batting practice once when he

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<v Speaker 1>was still in Cleveland. He was terrible. Couldn't get it

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<v Speaker 1>out of the cage. Yeah, I was missing. At least

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<v Speaker 1>he hid it, all right. Final fun fact for Auden Tate.

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<v Speaker 1>Your Twitter handle is little Tate. You're not little. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the story behind the little Tate? I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a big contradiction consider I'm kind of a more bigger figure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, to be honest. A few people just

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<v Speaker 1>started like calling me that, and then like I just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just stuck with it to be that's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>because it is like a big contradiction, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>rule with it. It's got to appreciate the irony. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your time. Thanks so much. Best of what

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<v Speaker 1>going forward. He doesn't appreciate it. That's Autumn Tate. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to remind you to come out and join us

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