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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show, as the Texans are

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Speaker 1: back in action on Sunday following the Monday night victory

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Speaker 1: over the Dallas Cowboys. Mark VanderMeer with you with John Harrison.

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Speaker 1: Let's have some fun tonight. Jake Morland will be with

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Speaker 1: us a little bit later, tight Ends coach for your Texans.

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Speaker 1: Really interesting guy, really great guests, So look forward to

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Speaker 1: that coming up in about twenty five thirty minutes something

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Speaker 1: like that. But right now, it's the General John McClain

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Speaker 1: joining us in general. We caught up the other day

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Speaker 1: after the victory of the Cowboys. Now in a super

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Speaker 1: short week, well not as super short as say a

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Speaker 1: Thursday night after a Sunday, but pretty short week to

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Speaker 1: get ready for the Tennessee Titans and all that defense.

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Speaker 2: Good evening. Your thoughts, how's it going?

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Speaker 3: My thoughts? All that Texans should win this game over

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Speaker 3: the Titans. They should beat Jacksonville. As you go into

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Speaker 3: the my week with a three game winning streak and

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Speaker 3: a nine to four record and then come out of

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Speaker 3: it hopefully healthier game of the season. May have Christian

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Speaker 3: Harris back at that point, although he'll have to be

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Speaker 3: back brought back slowly and worked his way into the lineup.

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Speaker 3: But it'd be time for the Murderers row Miami and

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Speaker 3: Tuatonola Low and their great offense here at Kansas City,

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Speaker 3: here on Christmas with the Ravens, and then of course

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Speaker 3: that last game at Tennessee. So's it's very exciting the

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Speaker 3: fact they're gonna run they're running away with the division

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Speaker 3: and if they could if the Texans, if they win

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Speaker 3: the games, it's just if they beat Miami and they

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Speaker 3: sweep the division, they're gonna go eleven and six, because

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Speaker 3: I think they'll lose at Kansas City and Baltimore. Although Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: even though they have never beaten the Ravens since Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson got there, Baltimore's defense is vulnerable. Right now. The

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Speaker 3: Texans and the Ravens have given up twenty two touchdown

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Speaker 3: passes each, which is second most in the league to

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville's twenty three, and yet two of those teams are

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Speaker 3: going to go to the playoffs. I think it's very

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Speaker 3: interesting that I wrote a column today that's on Houston

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Speaker 3: Texans dot com that is about the great offseason Nick

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Speaker 3: Casario head with his two trades for Joe Mixon and

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Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs, his draft, particularly with Lasseter and Bullock and

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Speaker 3: even Kate Stover as well, and then the free agent signings,

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Speaker 3: especially on defense. It's amazing how they how well they've done,

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Speaker 3: and something interesting they are. Texans are third with twenty takeaways,

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Speaker 3: They have fourteen interceptions, tied for second, and they but

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Speaker 3: they've given up twenty two touchdown passes and their opposing

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Speaker 3: quarterback rating against the Texans is that's kind of an anomaly.

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Speaker 3: Your third in the being targeted and yet you are

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Speaker 3: tied for thirtieth in touchdown passes and I've gone over

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Speaker 3: every touchdown pass of the season, which I'll be writing

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Speaker 3: about Friday. But anyway, the sciting time of the year,

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Speaker 3: crunch time's coming up, and the Texans seem to be

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Speaker 3: getting healthier. And when I look at them, I think

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Speaker 3: if the passing game with CJ. Stroud could improve and

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Speaker 3: be more consistent, they they would be capable of winning

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Speaker 3: that second round playoff game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be nice if they could do that,

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Speaker 4: and they're going to do that with the help of

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Speaker 4: the defense and the defense the other night, and generally

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Speaker 4: there's so many players you mentioned, Kaylen Bullock and Derek

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Speaker 4: Stingleague guys that have had interceptions throughout the year, they

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Speaker 4: dropped a couple of them that event, man, they get

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Speaker 4: those two yet another couple to the total. But I

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Speaker 4: want to talk about a guy I know you love

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Speaker 4: talking about because he went to ur alma mater, Jalen Petree.

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Speaker 4: What has been the impact that you've seen of Jalen

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Speaker 4: Peatree for this particular defense. Listening to Nick on Sports

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Speaker 4: Reo six ten on Wednesday morning, Thursday morning, excuse me,

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Speaker 4: and he just talked about how JP is a guy

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Speaker 4: you just got to have around the building. You know

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Speaker 4: this because of his time at Baylor, You've seen it

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Speaker 2: What is Jalen Petrie meant to this defense?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, they started playing him this year

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Speaker 3: like Baylor played him when he was defensive player of

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Speaker 3: the Year in the Big Twelve. And he was great

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Speaker 3: in his last two seasons, which coincided with David Randa's

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Speaker 3: and he always played better around the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 3: the run. You never know if he's gonna drop, if

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Speaker 3: because the guy he's covering his staying in. And he

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Speaker 3: had big plays against the Cowboys, and then he gets

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Speaker 3: screwed on one which is a he obliterated I can't

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Speaker 3: remember who it was. He obliterated the cowboy and they

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Speaker 3: threw a flag saying he it was I guess helmet

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Speaker 3: the replay and it was not true. The replay expert

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Speaker 3: for ESPN, I think as Jeans Territor came on and said,

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Speaker 3: that's not a penalty. But we've seen bad officiating all season.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the most inconsistent I've seen him in

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Speaker 3: forty eight years of covering the NFL, mainly because all

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Speaker 3: the games are so close and a bad call or

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Speaker 3: two can be instrumental in a loss and then getting

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Speaker 3: the breaks and instrumental in a victory. But Petrie, if

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Speaker 3: you think about this, Petrie came three. He came Petrie,

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Speaker 2: Now and.

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Speaker 3: Bullet. This season I'm guessing next season they'll go after

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Speaker 3: another safety for coverage at some point. I love reading

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Speaker 3: mock drafts about where the experts have the Texans finishing

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Speaker 3: and who they have him taking. Most of them haven't

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Speaker 3: taken a guard, which is what I do right now.

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Speaker 3: But I thought saw a very interesting one today by

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Speaker 3: guy I really respect, Matt Miller from ESPN. Can't I

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Speaker 3: think he had him picking twenty third and he had

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Speaker 3: him taking a guy ought to win the Heisman Trophy,

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Speaker 3: Ashton Jenny, the running back from Boise State. Although there's

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Speaker 3: such a campaign for Travis Hunter at Colorado and he's

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Speaker 3: certainly very deserving, and they said Joe Mixon's played great,

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Speaker 3: but he'll be twenty nine next year. And I certainly

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Speaker 3: don't think they would take Ashton Jenny. But at some

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Speaker 3: point they're going to take another member of the secondary

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Speaker 3: because they've hit on him so well. With Stingley, Petrie,

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Speaker 3: Lassiter and Bullock, and of course, let's see what is it.

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Speaker 3: Lassiter and Stingley are second in the league in opposing

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Speaker 3: than any rookie duo, and of course they're getting great pressure.

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Speaker 3: They lead the league in pressures and tackles for loss.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you this, I'll buy both of you guys

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Speaker 4: a die of Coca fashion. Genty is there at twenty three?

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Speaker 2: Oh really?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I agree, he's not. I didn't see him go

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Speaker 3: to Cowboys because they need a running back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he went.

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Speaker 3: good one like we've seen with Joe Mixon, Sakwan Barkley,

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry and then of course Josh Shacobs and all

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Speaker 3: those four teams that let their backs get away have

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Speaker 3: been terrible at running the ball and they've all excelled.

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Speaker 1: It's the revenge of the running backs. Even Tony Pollard

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Speaker 1: having you know, a halfway decent stat line that would

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Speaker 1: fit in nicely for the Cowboys right now. I mean nicely.

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Speaker 1: It would be better than what Daddle's given them right now.

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Speaker 1: So that's interesting. But let's talk about the Titans here

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Speaker 1: for a moment. General as they come in here, what

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Speaker 1: changes do you expect in the offseason? Maybe as they

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Speaker 1: look to restart under Brian Callahan. This was not what

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Speaker 1: they envisioned Will Levis uh oh, I'm not sure. He

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Speaker 1: still has a few more games to iron it out

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Speaker 2: What are you thinking in Nashville?

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Speaker 3: Their offensive line has been a big disappointment. They are

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Speaker 3: Bill Callahan from Cleveland come work with his son. He

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Speaker 3: have problems up front. Levis gets sacked way too many times,

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Speaker 3: a few of them are his fault, and they had

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Speaker 3: made it the defeat not look as bad as it was.

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Speaker 3: Made Levis's stats look better. But with the Texans, especially

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Speaker 3: not sure about fully flood of Cossi. Those three guys

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Speaker 4: Okay, general, we we've talked about free agency with the

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Speaker 4: And there was kind of this gap where Okay, you

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Speaker 4: then after that you're like, Okay, who's the next most

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Speaker 4: significant Lamar Miller.

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Speaker 2: Lamar is probably that guy.

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Speaker 3: Bring that up and tell y'all why that is, because

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Speaker 3: now Dimiko is so good at knowing exactly what he

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Speaker 3: lot to say, as does mad Burke. Because I've got

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Speaker 3: that in my column for tomorrow I'm sorry for today

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Speaker 3: that's on Houston Texans dot Com with him talking about

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Speaker 3: the way they work. Nick Asario as finals say, as

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Speaker 3: the players they want positions specific not just a defensive tackle,

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Speaker 3: great job conveying to Nick Asario, James Liptford, the scouting

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Speaker 3: I thought when Cassio elected not to bring back Cam

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Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh because Casseerio signed Tommy Townsend, and Tommy Townsend

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Speaker 3: the Minnesota game, in first one Mineapolis and the first

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Speaker 3: it's all about the communication between the coaching staff. This

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Speaker 3: coaching staff and Nick Casario. There's no egos involved, like

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Speaker 3: when Bill O'Brien was here and Bill O'Brien clashed with

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Speaker 3: Rick Smith, then Bell O'Brien crashed, clashed with Brian Gain

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Speaker 3: and then Jack easter Be got involved. But then Nick

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Speaker 3: the things I fully expect after this season, he'll I'm

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Speaker 3: expecting he'll get a big extension because that'll be four

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Speaker 3: years out of his six year contract, and he certainly

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Speaker 3: deserves it because this offseason working with Demiko. If they

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Speaker 3: they'll be a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna follow up just with where

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Speaker 4: I was going with my question.

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Speaker 1: Because the draded, dreaded, hated, despised horseshoe. They're five and

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Speaker 1: Never underestimate the Horseshoe, the Lions. You must crush them.

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Speaker 3: The Richard's New England Drake makeing. They won nine games

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Speaker 1: I want them to suffer and feel pain, well, infected

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Speaker 3: The only person that didn't like Andrew luck I remember that.

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Speaker 1: Listen to me now, one more, one more Jacksonville. They've

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Speaker 2: The Steelers are going to Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Steelers are three and a half point favorites in Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: I do, because the Steelers defense is great. The offense

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Speaker 1: General For everybody who does not like Aaron Rodgers, it's

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Speaker 2: They wait for.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we have to fire the head coach.

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Speaker 1: Why I don't know, and oh my gosh, we're going

436
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Speaker 1: to fire the general manager. And wow, I wanted to

437
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Speaker 1: bench Aaron Rodgers, says the owner. Actually he didn't say that,

438
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Speaker 1: but it was reported that he wanted to do that.

439
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Speaker 1: So what are they gold to do? So they need

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Speaker 1: a new head coach. They probably need a new quarterback.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen in Gotham.

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Speaker 3: Before Woody Johnson goes back to the UK as the

443
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Speaker 3: ambassador under Trump for a second time, He's going to

444
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: hire a new general manager, a new coach, and that

445
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Speaker 3: new GM and coach gonna want Aaron Rodgers out of there.

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Speaker 3: And if Rogers is gone, it means some other players

447
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: are gone because they become the biggest disappointment, the biggest

448
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 3: joke circus when everybody is reveling in their pain, and

449
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: the key is will anybody else hire Rogers? I don't

450
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Speaker 3: think so. I think he's done and who would they want? Nobody?

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Speaker 3: Not many people want to go in there with Rogers

452
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Speaker 3: under these same circumstances. Woody Johnson will turn it over

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Speaker 3: to his brother Christopher, who's the one that's signed and

454
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Speaker 3: off on Robert Soli being hired. So I think they're

455
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Speaker 3: in start over mode for whatever reason. They don't run

456
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Speaker 3: the ball like they stood with brace Hall, who's also

457
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Speaker 3: an excellent receiver. Their defense was really good under Salah

458
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: has not been good since he got fired. If they

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Speaker 3: bring in a guy in there, say like Mike Rabel,

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Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel, as you guys know, doesn't take any of

461
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Speaker 3: you know what from anybody. There's talk up there too

462
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Speaker 3: about Vrabel. Not the idiots think Dion ought to be

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Speaker 3: the head coach of the Cowboys, but Vrabel the possibility there.

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Speaker 3: And it's not going to be Belichick in New York

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Speaker 3: because he has blasted christ I mean, Whey Johnson this

466
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Speaker 3: year multiple times, and if he was interested in that job,

467
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Speaker 3: he would not be doing that. So i'd someone. I

468
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Speaker 3: think Vrabel would be a possibility, but it's going to

469
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Speaker 3: go down as one of the worst experiments in the

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Speaker 3: history of pro football.

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Speaker 1: All right, So another experiment taking place in New York

472
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Speaker 1: is Tommy DeVito is back at quarterback for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: And I want to ask both of you this, how

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Speaker 1: many times can you remember a team starting a quarterback

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Speaker 1: for sheer gimmick purposes. Now, look, they could possibly win

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Speaker 1: with DeVito, but I'm thinking Drew Lock's got to be

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Speaker 1: better than Tommy DeVito.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong, so he want three.

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Speaker 3: In a row. Last year, DeVito did I know, but

480
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Speaker 3: Killin came out that Rose and Rock was I mean,

481
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Speaker 3: Locke was mad. He said they told him you're the

482
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Speaker 3: number two quarterback. He's mad that he's not starting. And

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Speaker 3: I don't blame him. It'd be an opportunity for him

484
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Speaker 3: to come in there and make some money if he

485
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Speaker 3: looks good, because he knows there's going to be a

486
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Speaker 3: shortage of quarterbacks for all the quarterback needy Jeames next year.

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Speaker 3: But bringing in de Vito showing that idiot who's his buddy?

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Speaker 3: That looks like something out as so Branos.

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Speaker 2: And his agents.

490
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Speaker 4: And I've heard, I've heard gotta be careful with what

491
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Speaker 4: you hear that one of the reasons they're not playing

492
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Speaker 4: Locke is some incentive based contract money thing.

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Speaker 3: Wow, well that's terrible.

494
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Speaker 2: Already they've got the problem with Daniel.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's what it is. He's a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But still, can you name other courts?

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Speaker 1: Doug Flutie to me, felt gimmicky in nineteen eighty seven

498
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Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Russy Smith felt gimmicky in twenty ten

499
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Speaker 1: against the Texans. Wait, why would why why would that

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Speaker 1: help them out?

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Speaker 2: Not like he's a country music thing.

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Speaker 3: Let's what I make of you know, Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 3: fourth theme right now.

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Speaker 1: If Drew Locke's last name was Drew LUCKYO or something,

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Speaker 1: if he had.

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Speaker 3: In that game here, what's yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh I remember? Are you kidding you?

508
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: Remember it was three? Brian went off, We needed counseling

509
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Speaker 1: after that game. General, you sucked too, He said, stop

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Speaker 1: stop all right, job, what do you have going on

511
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Speaker 1: on Houston Texans dot com?

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Speaker 2: Re remind us please?

513
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Speaker 3: I have to call um up right now about what

514
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: a great job Casario did working with Miko and his

515
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Speaker 3: assistance and the personnel department in signing free agents, making

516
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: trades and draft It was outstanding. And then I'll have

517
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Speaker 3: one tomorrow going over all the quarterbacks who've played against

518
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: the Texans and how well the defense ranks and a

519
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: lot of important stance except touchdown passes and why that

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00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: could be. Thank you guys very much as always, and

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Speaker 3: I will see you at Energy Stadium. And I'm just

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Speaker 3: disappointed they're not wearing their h Town blue tinged uniform.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they won't wear those, but the Titans will wear

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Speaker 1: the oiler uniforms maybe in the regular season finale. Thank you, General,

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Speaker 1: all right, coming up? Jake Morland tight ends coach he's

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Speaker 1: also an original Texan. Let's catch up with him next

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Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio. Back to it here on Texans

528
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Speaker 1: All Access said, each week we try to visit with

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Speaker 1: an assistant coach, and this week it's Jake Morland, who

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Speaker 1: I always like to point out was an original Texan.

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Speaker 1: He was here in the building in two thousand and two. Now,

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Speaker 1: he ultimately did not make the fifty three that year,

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Speaker 1: but he was part of that whole offseat. He's inn

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Speaker 1: in preseason. Jake Morland super interesting guy. Played for the

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Speaker 1: Western Michigan Broncos. And I love that about him because

536
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Speaker 1: I was a Chippewa announcer and that's the arch rival,

537
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: the biggest rivalry in college sports that nobody ever talks about. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Let's get to our visit with Jake Morland, tight ends

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Speaker 1: coach for your Texans.

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Speaker 2: How's it going, coach owing great?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's always great to visit with you, and let's

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Speaker 1: talk about your group a little bit here. Things always

543
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: evolve and change in this league. And I want to

544
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Speaker 1: start here because we had Cad Stover and here two

545
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Speaker 1: three weeks ago or something. We're talking to him about

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Speaker 1: playing some full back. Now he plays tight end, but

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Speaker 1: he's got to play some fullback. So how does all

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Speaker 1: that work when you're coaching up a rookie, especially in

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Speaker 1: some key moments. He's out there and he might not

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Speaker 1: be catching the ball or whatever, but those blocks are important.

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Speaker 2: Coach.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, you know Kay's doing a great job.

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Speaker 6: I think the whole room is really doing a great job.

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Speaker 6: But I think it's a testament to them as a room,

555
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Speaker 6: and it's a way that I guess I teach Okay,

556
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Speaker 6: anybody who's in the tight ends room, they know that

557
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Speaker 6: at any moment, they could be a wide receiver, they

558
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Speaker 6: could be a fullback, they could be a regular hy

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Speaker 6: tight end, you know, like people are accustomed to seeing.

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Speaker 6: And unfortunately, I've actually been in some circumstances where the

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Speaker 6: why tight end has had to go in as a

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Speaker 6: tackle because we had so many injuries on the offensive

563
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Speaker 6: line during a game that we're the only ones that

564
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Speaker 6: knew what was happening, and we had to have that happen.

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Speaker 6: So it's a very fun and exciting place to be

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Speaker 6: in this offense because you're asked to do a lot

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Speaker 6: of things. And going back to your original question, what

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Speaker 6: Kate has been able to do with putting together playing

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Speaker 6: the why tight end and also being in the backfield

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Speaker 6: as a fullback has been really, really great coach.

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Speaker 4: Does that make it more I don't know if exciting

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Speaker 4: is the right word, but more exciting for you in

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Speaker 4: a sense that you got to know all the different

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Speaker 4: protections as you know a pass blocker. You got to

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Speaker 4: know all the different protections and blocking schemes for the run.

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Speaker 2: You got to all the different routes.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like you got your hand in everything

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Speaker 4: at the buffet in a sense, does that make it

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Speaker 4: more fun to coach?

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Speaker 2: The position?

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right?

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Speaker 6: And that's actually exactly what I tell these guys, and

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Speaker 6: I have to remind them sometimes that, you know, in

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Speaker 6: my opinion, we should be the second most informed person

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Speaker 6: on the field behind the quarterback, because like you said,

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Speaker 6: we have to know the run game, the pass game,

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Speaker 6: the pass protection game, and all of the above right,

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00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 6: all the routes that go along with it. So because

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00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 6: we have all of these things on our plate, our

590
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 6: plate is full. But that's how we like it, you know,

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Speaker 6: And so we cross train everybody because if Caide breaks

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Speaker 6: a shoelace and slow wants to call another formation with

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Speaker 6: a tight end in the backfield. Well, somebody's got to

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Speaker 6: go fill that role. So everybody gets cross trained. If

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Speaker 6: you're in the room, and I don't care, it's everybody

596
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 6: from Troy Harriston all the way to Teagan Quittoriano, and

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00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 6: everybody's getting cross trained in the backfield on the line

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Speaker 6: as a why and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 1: What's Tigan doing for you since coming back to the

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Speaker 1: Texans organization.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he's been a great addition. And you know

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Speaker 6: the best part is that he has some familiarity, right,

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00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 6: so he was with us, you know, before he got

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00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 6: injured and all those kind of things, So there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of familiarity that we don't have to start at

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Speaker 6: square one. You know. We were able to say, hey,

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Speaker 6: do you remember this, yes, coach, I remember that. Okay,

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00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 6: now we can move on, and we were able to

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Speaker 6: get him up to speed pretty quick. So he's been

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Speaker 6: a great addition.

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00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: So in twenty twenty two when we played the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: last drive of the game for the Cowboys, Dalton Schultz

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Speaker 4: was huge and I just remember saying, I hate freaking

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Speaker 4: Dalton Schultz.

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Speaker 2: So he returned to AT and T Stadium the other night, and.

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Speaker 1: Dalton seems like a pretty chill, kind of quiet guy

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Speaker 1: when you see him.

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Speaker 4: But what were his emotions like going back? I saw

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Speaker 4: him after the game, and I was like that one

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Speaker 4: had to feel good. He's Dalwin felt good. How is

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Speaker 4: that kind of managing that through the week for Dalton?

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Speaker 2: Coach? Yeah, it was good.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's a pro, right, He's been in the

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Speaker 6: league for a long time, so he knows how to

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00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 6: manage himself and things like that. And so I tried

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00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 6: not to guess him up too much because I knew

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Speaker 6: that he was already going to be feeling that, you know, individually,

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Speaker 6: but he definitely had a different look in his eye,

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Speaker 6: I will say that, And so I just kind of

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00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 6: left it at that and just try to keep him

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Speaker 6: encourage and pump him up and encourage him to keep

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Speaker 6: on doing what he's doing because he's playing really good football.

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Speaker 6: You know, he hasn't been targeted, maybe as much as

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Speaker 6: he would like, but the fact of the matter is

635
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 6: that when he is targeted, he is doing what he

636
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 6: needs to do, and he's doing a great job in

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00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 6: the run game, and he knows that when we ask

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Speaker 6: him to do something, he's going to be there for

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00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 6: and be able to deliver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jake Marlon coaches tight ends for the Texans.

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Speaker 1: The point you just brought up, you'd love to be

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Speaker 1: targeted all the time. Every player who is capable of

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00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: catching a pass wants to catch all the passes. But

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Speaker 1: you mentioned all the dirty work that you have to

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Speaker 1: do that's utterly important. Is there a sense that or

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Speaker 1: do you have to remind everybody that, hey, this is

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Speaker 1: seen by all the important people in your career, right

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Speaker 1: the other teams, this team, whether you end up another

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Speaker 1: place or not. As you're coaching guys in training camp

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Speaker 1: and whatnot, do you need to remind them of that sometimes.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent?

652
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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, of course, guys, you know, especially

653
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 6: on this level, everybody, Hey guy, I'm open on every play.

654
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 6: You're not open on every play, even though you think

655
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 6: you're open on every play. I get it. But that's

656
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 6: how competitive these guys are, right, So in order to

657
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 6: keep on keep on fueling that competitive drive, you want

658
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 6: to let them know that when you get your opportunity,

659
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 6: you have to maximize it. And you never know when

660
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 6: that opportunity is going to come. It's like, you know,

661
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 6: you play seventy plays in a game, and there's probably

662
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 6: five or six of those plays that are really going

663
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 6: to determine the outcome. The problem is you don't know

664
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Speaker 6: when those players are going to show up. So if

665
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 6: you're not able to perform on every single play that

666
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 6: you're in, then you might miss your opportunity. And that's

667
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 6: the thing that we talk about the most in our

668
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 6: room is the progress is part of the process, right

669
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 6: and as we continue to progress through the season, are

670
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 6: we able to sustain everything that we need to do

671
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 6: play in and play out? So because you never know

672
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 6: when that one play is going to be the turning

673
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 6: point in the.

674
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: Game, coach almost feel like there should be some delineation

675
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: at some point between using the word rookie and using

676
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 4: the year first year guy, because I feel like they're

677
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: no longer rookies because they've been playing a lot. What

678
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: have you seen from Caid since he matured from a

679
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 4: rookie to a first year player. He's lined up almost everywhere,

680
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: He's done a little bit of everything, including being one

681
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: of the Special Teams Players of the week. What has

682
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: he done as a rookie for you guys and what

683
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 4: kind of growth have you seen in kid.

684
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 6: Well, I think it starts with his approach the guy.

685
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 6: He showed up in a professional kind of a manner,

686
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Sometimes you have to kind of,

687
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 6: let's say, coach guys into say hey, this is how

688
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 6: we perform, this is how we study, these are the

689
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 6: things that we have to do. And Kate was a

690
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 6: pro as soon as he walked through the doors, right.

691
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 6: So his mental ability to grasp the offense has been fantastic.

692
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 6: That's why we're able to move him around and do

693
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 6: the things that we're able to do. His physical presence

694
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 6: has allowed him to also not only be in the offense,

695
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 6: but also become a real live player for us in

696
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 6: special teams.

697
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: Right.

698
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 6: And so when you're a tight end, especially in this level,

699
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 6: you have to be able to perform both in special

700
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 6: teams and on the offense for whatever that looks like

701
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 6: for that particular week. And I think he's just really

702
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 6: embraced his role. Whatever we ask him to do, he's

703
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 6: going to do it to the best of his ability.

704
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 6: And he's very coachable. He wants to be coached, he

705
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 6: wants to be pushed, and he really wants to be

706
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 6: the best at what he's doing.

707
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: And I thought he was really open with us. We

708
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: had him in here, what maybe three four weeks ago,

709
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: and he actually brought it up. We didn't really want

710
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: to go there, and he brought He was the one

711
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 4: who brought up the Minnesota game, and he talked about

712
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: the lessons he learned from that Minnesota game that he

713
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: is then applying going forward. Did you see that same thing, coach,

714
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 4: I mean, that was a tough game for him, You

715
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: had a tough time against John Gernard in particular.

716
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: Did you kind of see that same thing from him?

717
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 4: Because he talked about it very openly about how that

718
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: was a real learning lesson for him that added kind

719
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 4: of to his tool kit as he moved forward, exactly.

720
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 6: And again I go back to these guys that are

721
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 6: in my room. They are pros, and they really have

722
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 6: a great approach to the game, and they know that

723
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 6: there are things even if we lose, okay, quote unquote lose,

724
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 6: you lose a play, you lose a game, whatever, that

725
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 6: looks like, there's going to be lessons that you can

726
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 6: derive from that, and then if you're able to apply

727
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 6: it as you move on through the season. I think

728
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 6: that's why we are where we are now. We went

729
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 6: through some adversity over the last few weeks, not only

730
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 6: going all the way back to Minnesota, but as a team,

731
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 6: you know, everybody faces injuries. Get that, well, we probably

732
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 6: lost a couple of games that most people think that

733
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 6: we should have won, including us. Okay, fine, well, what

734
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 6: can we learn from that and apply now as we

735
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 6: continue to move on and we start getting into December,

736
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 6: because that's when where we really need to be playing

737
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 6: our best ball.

738
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: Yep.

739
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: Jake Morland tight ends coach for the Texans. All right,

740
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: so you played tight end, you played the position you

741
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: played in the league, and then you started coaching. So

742
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: when did that or how was that evolution for you?

743
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Where the satisfaction is I'm teaching somebody else and I

744
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: see them do something well and it just lights a

745
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: fuse for me. It really satisfies me, and I want

746
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: to pursue this forever.

747
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 6: It was something that I did not want to do

748
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 6: by one hundred percent. Did not want to be a coach.

749
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 6: In fact, when I got done playing, I was completely

750
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 6: done with football, didn't want anything to do with football.

751
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 6: And then I was asked to come and be part

752
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 6: of a staff with one of my quarterback from college,

753
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 6: and I said, I'm going to help you out for

754
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 6: this fall, and that's it, and then I'm done. And

755
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 6: from the first moment that I stepped on the field,

756
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 6: I knew that this is what I was supposed to do.

757
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 6: It was very hard for me at first to be

758
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 6: able to articulate the things that I wanted my players

759
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 6: to be able to do. For whatever reason, I had

760
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 6: been able to just do things naturally. I couldn't really

761
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 6: explain to you why or how. I just knew how

762
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 6: things needed to be done. Well, now I need to

763
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 6: put it into a real, live English language to be

764
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 6: able to articulate to somebody that they understand that they

765
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 6: can go and perform. And so that was a very

766
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 6: very hard thing for me to do early in my

767
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 6: career and as I've gone to different places. The Air

768
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 6: Force Academy is the best example, because even though those

769
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 6: guys are the smartest guys, they're the bravest guys. I

770
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 6: mean all of the above. They're made up of all

771
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 6: the right stuff, but you have a very small window

772
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 6: that you have to get all of the information to

773
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 6: these guys in and by the way, they're also worried about,

774
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 6: you know, aeronautical engineering and protecting our country and all

775
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 6: these other things. Football is, you know, down the lists

776
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 6: quite a bit for these guys. But it made me

777
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 6: a better coach because I needed to be very concise

778
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 6: in the information that I was giving them so that

779
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 6: they could go out and make it perform. So everywhere

780
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 6: that I've been, I've been able to learn different things,

781
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 6: learn different techniques. And also you got to figure out

782
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 6: what pushes the guy's buttons and how do guys learn.

783
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 6: Some guys learn through paper, some guys learn through video,

784
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 6: some guys learn through walk through and so you have

785
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 6: to be able to manipulate all of those things so

786
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 6: everybody can be on the same page.

787
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: And as a coach, now it's now technology.

788
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: How do you you know with the new technology, because

789
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 4: back when we were coaching, like you're drawing it up

790
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: on pads. You know, it was on paper as all

791
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: you do. But I'm telling you that coaching bug hits man.

792
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 4: When it strikes, it's like, holy cow, it's definitely strike. Okay,

793
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: we got Thanksgiving coming up, coach, so you can you

794
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: have to have this side as Thanksgiving?

795
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: What sweet potatoes?

796
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: Sweet potatoes growing with marshmallows or no.

797
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 6: No, well, yes, with marshmallows. But when I was growing up,

798
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 6: this was my dad. My dad had to have sweet potatoes,

799
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 6: like we could not start the meal unless the sweet

800
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 6: potatoes were on the table. And that just kind of followed.

801
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 6: And now that's I am that way now. I used

802
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 6: to be bread. I used to be I'm a big

803
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 6: bread guy. Used to be bread. But now it's completely

804
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 6: sweet potatoes. Okay, are you sweepot casse role? Just sweet

805
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 6: potatoes with marshmallows or it just doesb matter. It's got

806
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 6: to sweetatoes, don't matter. It has to be sweet potatoes,

807
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 6: usually diced, okay, and and that's usually how how we

808
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 6: get them. But I'm not that picky.

809
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Now cut a dish.

810
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Yes, weave a dish from the completely gone never want

811
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: to see it.

812
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: Yes, your decision, coach, and yours alone.

813
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 6: Holy cow?

814
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 3: Uh? Probably corn?

815
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: Corn? Do people have corn?

816
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: I make?

817
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: I make like a crembrew like corn? Pretty good?

818
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

819
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 6: I would replace that with the green bean cast role personally, you.

820
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: Like to readmaccastro. What the Krispy fright on is?

821
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 6: Now that's probably a Midwest thing, you know, I am

822
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 6: in Wisconsin. That's probably Yeah, I mean I grew in Wisconsin.

823
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 6: That was like that had to be on the table.

824
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 6: That was the only way my mom got me the

825
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 6: green Beans coach. That's it, green Bean cast role, Thanksgiving.

826
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Speaker 1: Meet your vegetables coach, Thics a loft for joining us,

827
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: Good luck, Thanks guys, It's always such a pleasure to

828
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: catch up with Jake Moreland. Great guy, obviously an excellent

829
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: guest on this show and an excellent coach for these

830
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: tight ends for your Texans. Now coming up the injury report.

831
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: Do I have thoughts on this? Yes, I do. Very

832
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: non professional medical opinions on the injury report. We'll get

833
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: to those next, plus very professional opinions from Houston Methodist

834
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: as we'll discuss foot injuries Part two. I know it

835
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: sounds kind of weird, but trust me, you're gonna like this.

836
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Speaker 1: It's coming up here on Texans All Access. It's our

837
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: final segment here on Texans All Access tonight. And as

838
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: I promised, the injury report here it is for a Thursday.

839
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: Did not participate for the second consecutive day.

840
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: Yesterday was a walk through kind of thing, but they

841
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: have to give an injury report anyway. But also not

842
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: participating today as well as yesterday, Denico Autry with a

843
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: knee oblique situation, Florunzo Fhatacasi otherwise known as fully Fatakassi

844
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: foot injury, and Blake Fisher with a concussion. So let's

845
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: do the math here. Thursday practice, I don't know. You

846
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: gotta hope that you get those guys back, especially Daniko

847
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: and Florunzo, because those guys are really important on that

848
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: defensive line. Now. I know they've been doing really well

849
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: with who's ever out there. Foley did not play against Dallas,

850
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: Denko did, so we'll see how it goes. Hey they

851
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: play Sunday, things can change. But you do have Mario

852
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: Edwards back for the second consecutive game. And Will Anderson

853
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Junior was limited again in practice today, and that's on

854
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: the way up, not on the way down.

855
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: So it's good.

856
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: If a guy shows up limited all of a sudden

857
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: on a Thursday, that means he might have gotten hurt

858
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: in practice. So you always have to be aware of

859
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: those things. But Will's coming back slowly but surely limited participation.

860
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: Will know a lot more tomorrow when the status report

861
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: comes out, as he's au Shire also limited with a

862
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: knee injury. Derek Stingley Junior limited with a hip, So

863
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: let's be optimistic about those guys. Hope for the best

864
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: when the status report comes out tomorrow. Full participation for

865
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: the second consecutive day. Kamari Lassiter with the concussion comeback,

866
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: so let's hope he could make it out there against

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. Now for the Titans themselves, some interesting

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Speaker 1: items to note here, as you have Roger McCreary out

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Speaker 1: with a knee injury second consecutive day. You know, cornerback

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Speaker 1: Lagerius Sneed already ruled himself out with a quad He's

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Speaker 1: been out for a while. Taj Spears out yesterday concussion,

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Speaker 1: out today concussion. So he continues on the comeback trail,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't look good for him. Not trending in

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Speaker 1: the right direction for him heading into Sunday. And Calvin

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Speaker 1: Ridley sat out yesterday with an illness. He practiced full today,

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Speaker 1: so expect him to go. And Jeffrey Simmons day of

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Speaker 1: rest yesterday for that terrifying veteran, well, he was full

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Speaker 1: go today, so expect him to be out there Sunday

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Speaker 1: at noon at NRG Stadium on Salute to Service Day.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to this Houston Methodist minutes doctor Jason o'wero.

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Speaker 1: We had him on last week talking about foot injuries.

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Speaker 1: Let's discuss turf toe, which sounds tame, but it is not.

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Speaker 5: It is not. And you know, I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: for we've taked football for instance, you know, in a

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Speaker 5: you know, I think you would think that your big

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Speaker 5: toe is not important. But you know, for particularly for

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Speaker 5: our skill positions where athletes are making you know, very

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Speaker 5: dynamic moves, cutting and so forth, we depend on our

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Speaker 5: great toe immensely for direction change, acceleration and so forth.

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Speaker 5: And so when an athlete has a turf toe injury,

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Speaker 5: they lose that ability to use that toe for doing

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Speaker 5: the you know, cutting and so forth and acceleration. So

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Speaker 5: it tends to really limit their speed, their ability to

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Speaker 5: to you know, do it. Uh makes them great. And

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Speaker 5: so you know, some some players, you know, in alignment

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Speaker 5: and so forth, you know, they may be able to

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Speaker 5: accommodate some for that turf toe, but still there's a

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Speaker 5: you know a great deal of force that they're applying

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Speaker 5: through their through their toe as well. And so yeah,

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Speaker 5: these these injuries, they tend to be very debilitating.

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Speaker 2: Doctor.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the foot injuries that require actual surgery.

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Speaker 5: So you know, we've talked a lot about turf toe.

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Speaker 5: That is one where in some cases it does require

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Speaker 5: require surgery, although a lot of times that can be

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Speaker 5: you know, if it's a stable injury, it can be

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Speaker 5: treated with tape and you know, rest and support. I

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Speaker 5: think the ones that are off at surgical or there's

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Speaker 5: a fracture known as a Jones fracture, which is a

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Speaker 5: fracture of the fifth metatarsal. It happens in an area

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Speaker 5: of the bone that's very notorious for non healing, and

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Speaker 5: so those frequently require placement of a screw or a

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Speaker 5: plate on that bone in order to allow it to heal.

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Speaker 5: Most athletes they're they're going to have surgery for that.

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Speaker 5: The other big one is a list Frank injury, this

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Speaker 5: midfoot sprain. Those are frequently unstable and it basically renders

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Speaker 5: your arch unstable, and so those those almost universally require

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Speaker 5: fixed surgical fixation.

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Speaker 1: That was the matchup twenty eleven injury that we're all

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Speaker 1: familiar with as Texans fans doctor. The amount of bones

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Speaker 1: in a foot, it's some crazy number what goes into

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Speaker 1: the construction If you will.

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Speaker 2: Of the human foot. It's very complicated, right.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, it is very complicated, and you know, it's

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Speaker 5: it's twenty eight bones that are basically connected by you know,

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Speaker 5: up to two hundred ligaments, and so, uh, there's there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of ligament of support. You know, most joints

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Speaker 5: in the foot, there's not a lot of inherent bony

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Speaker 5: stability there, and so you basically are relying on the

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Speaker 5: soft tissue restraints, so the ligaments, the muscles and tendons,

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Speaker 5: in order to stabilize that. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: because because of the configuration of these joints, it's what

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Speaker 5: makes our foot so dynamic. It allows us to bear weight,

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Speaker 5: you know, it allows it allows us to accommodate to

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Speaker 5: different surfaces and so forth, you know, but it also

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Speaker 5: makes the foot more injury prone.

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Speaker 1: Doctor, that's great information. Thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sirs, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: There's doctor Jason Auero of Houston Methodist, the official healthcare

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Speaker 1: provider of the Houston Texans. Log Onto Houston Methodist dot

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Speaker 1: org for all the information on Houston Methodist and the

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00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: ers and all of it virtual visits. They've got it

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Speaker 1: all there, Houston Methodist dot Org, Houston Methodist Leading Medicine.

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Speaker 2: All right, a couple of reminders for you.

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Speaker 1: On Friday night show, we kick off with Demico Ryans

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00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: Always and a player to be named later. I think

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Speaker 1: it's Jalen Peatrie tomorrow with Drew so we'll have a

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Speaker 1: good listen to that. Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle,

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Speaker 1: and a whole lot more on the program three hour

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Speaker 1: block of Texans Radio on Friday night, and don't miss

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00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: out on Texans Playbook ABC thirteen, ten thirty five or

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00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: whenever the news ends on Saturday evening and you get

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Speaker 1: to see Demiko.

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Speaker 2: Ryan's Nick Cassario.

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Speaker 1: All that stuff is available on YouTube as well, so

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Speaker 1: we're wherever you need to get it. Get it, listen

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Speaker 1: to it. Let's get fired up here. Six games remain

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. The Texans in a real good

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00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: spot with the Titans coming up on Sunday at NRG Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Salute to Service Day, can't wait. Thanks for listening. Don't

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Speaker 1: forget that Area forty five off tonight because we have

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football, but they'll be back on at nine

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: Have a great evening, Go Texans.