1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Revere, Revee, donks, look at us now. Tip to Tim. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: This is our lights, this is our passion. 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 3: This this Morning Combat. 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: It is Monday, March thirtieth, twenty twenty Revee, revelllyy donks, 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: it is time for Morning Combat. How are you doing? 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas. I join you from the 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: nation's capital, right here in Lisostatos Nidos. I am joined 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: by my hetero life maiden partner. He might know where 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Carol Baskin's ex husband is buried. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: We have to ask him. 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: He is my friend of yours from CBS Sports in 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: many other places. It is the one and only check 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Kasher himself. Brian Campbell. 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 3: Brian, it is an interesting Monday to be here, my friend, 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: is it not? 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: What a time to be alive and not in the 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: jowls of a large cat. Luke, you can call me 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: the Joe Exotic of combat sports. But we're back, trust me, 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: we back. Let's do this thing. Luke, I'm fired up. 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: How about that new intro for the people? Did that 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: give you any movement? 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: Luke? Yeah? Again? 25 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: Once I hope you understand and you saw that it 26 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: consecrated tip to tip in the intro. You keep thinking 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna outrun this reputation. 28 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: It is your reputation. 29 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: How dare you? How dare you? But let's let's let's uh, 30 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: let's do this thing, Luke. I hope people caught our 31 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: debut of Classic Combat over the weekend. You can catch 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: it on YouTube. Looking back at that Marquez Vasquez famous 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: boxing trilogy, Luke, can I announce much more to come 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: in that direction? 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we talked to the folks at showtime and 36 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: they liked what they saw. A lot of room to grow. 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: Now we gotta nurture it. We got to develop it 38 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: much like this program. But they saw what you guys 39 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: saw and they enjoyed it. They saw your feedback and 40 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: they enjoyed it as well. So more is on the way. 41 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: We'll have some details about that now, Brian, before we 42 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: get started. I forgot to do that last week. I'm 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: gonna make the plea again one more time. If you're 44 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: watching right now, whether live or not, thumbs up, thumbs 45 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: up on the video and hit that subscribe button. We 46 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: are back to doing live shows. This train rolls on 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: and it turns out today that there's actually plenty of 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: combat sports news to get to. So without further adop, 49 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: go ahead. 50 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: Bright, we just double down on that briefly. Look, we're 51 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: very knowledgeable that we're within quarantine's this season. We've never 52 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 2: experienced this life before. But there's two things you want 53 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: to do during that and m case got you covered. 54 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: Professor Salt and Pepper, can you keep you updated on 55 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: how you should be socially reacting? And your boy BC, 56 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: I will just talk tips for an hour and a half. 57 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Let's do this. Look, I know you have a harder 58 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: out than me watching Color of Night with Jane March 59 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four, So we better get this train 60 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: on the tracks. 61 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: All right, let's do this. 62 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: So first things first, let's see if I can match 63 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: up with the graphics. Jay, Let's get to it, all right, 64 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Topic number one, let's see put the graphic up. Did 65 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: I get out of the way the graphic? 66 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did it. 67 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: We have to rearrange this rundown in real time because 68 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: we have I guess you would call it something like 69 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: breaking news. UFC lightweight champion Kabebnrmika Madoff took to Instagram. 70 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: I guess this morning Russia time. He is in Dakistan 71 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: to say basically the following he was told by This 72 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: is his words. Now, he was told by UFC that 73 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: he will the fight with Tony for UFC two forty 74 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: nine was going to be almost ninety nine percent sure 75 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: it was going to be overseas, certainly on the other 76 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: side of the Atlantic, so it was told Abu Dhabi. 77 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: He goes to fly there and they say we're going 78 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: to close the borders. So he dips out of there, 79 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: goes to Russia, awaits further instructions and for folks who 80 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: don't know, Friday they grounded flights in Russia and then 81 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: this today they sealed their borders. 82 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: He is basically stuck. 83 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: ESPN's area Hawani reporting that the UFC is now trying 84 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: to make Tony versus Justin gaiche As something of a replacement. 85 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: Five. 86 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: Brian, I'll go to you first on this. What is 87 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: your reaction to this news? 88 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Certainly there's an element of my reaction, look, that does 89 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: center on the idea we can't afford it. This fight's cursed. 90 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: Fifth times, the charm right webscream who jumped in our 91 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: dms that episode with Chuck and I. Christy Furrows may 92 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: not have been wrong here. Unfortunately, the gods, the powers 93 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: of the world, Luke, whether you believe that this country 94 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: is run by people in an underground bunker in Colorado 95 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: or not, Mother Nature, the Lord, this fight can't happen 96 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: Tony versus Habibe, at least not right now. So that's 97 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: certainly one element of it. The other it's disappointing, Luke, 98 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: and for me, it centers around Dana White. This is 99 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: no longer in my opinion, about let's give the fans 100 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: some kind of entertainment while going through this quarantine season, 101 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: or maybe even about you guys don't understand the financial 102 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: realities of endeavor in UFC and debt, so the show 103 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: must go on. To me, this is all about Dana 104 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: White refusing to take the l And if Dana White 105 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: is going to continue to come out here and not 106 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: take a law us, then Luke, nobody's gonna win in 107 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: the end, because if we get a bastardized version of 108 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: something that we waited so long for, which would have 109 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: been Tony Habib five, there was already an element where 110 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: you could complain and say, look, is it worth it? 111 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: Do we want to do this in an empty arena 112 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: halfway across the world with a questionable training camp. But now, 113 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: if you're just going to blow that up and potentially 114 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 2: take the powers invested there, potentially take Tony Ferguson, who's 115 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: thirty six, has been down such an incredibly long and 116 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: difficult road to preserve this moment of finally fighting for 117 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: the lightweight title in the deepest and most dangerous division 118 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: in UFC history. And now you're just gonna throw the 119 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: dice up in the air and say, yeah, you're gonna 120 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 2: fight justin Gagege instead on Florida Native American grounds because 121 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: just because that's an L take the L Dana. No 122 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: one's gonna hate you long term. In fact, you'll get support. 123 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: These cards are not supposed to be going on right now, 124 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: and these unprecedented TI times, what else needs to be 125 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: done or shown for day not to understand that. 126 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Remember it was going to be full steam ahead after 127 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: UFC two forty nine. I need folks to listen to 128 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm going to be as as clear 129 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: and conscientious of everyone's feelings about this, But understand something here. 130 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: Why are world governments like Italy Iran, now, Russia, the 131 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: United States, Canada, Brazil. By the way, Brian instituting today 132 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: a thirty day ban on foreigners, now that won't cover 133 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: UFC two fifty. But what if they extend it. Why 134 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: is that happening? This is a very easy thing to understand. 135 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: Luke Russia. So Russia is closing the gates. Russia is 136 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: saying no, you cannot have the right here. 137 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: Let me make the point. There are a number of 138 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: solutions they could all be taking. If there was a vaccine, 139 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: they would do it, but there isn't one. If there 140 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: was a known, clear, clinically trialed, proven anti viral treatment 141 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: with antibiotics that they really knew and could deploy, they would. 142 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: Now they might get that soon, but as I speak today, 143 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: they don't have that. The only mechanism the United States, Russia, Brazil, Canada, France, Italy, Spain. 144 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: The only mechanism they have is social distancing, quarantine, suppressing 145 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: people and pushing them away from each other. 146 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: That is it. 147 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: That is why they keep doing it. And if you 148 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: look at the numbers in this country and in Russia 149 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: and in Spain, maybe not Italy, they could be over 150 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: the hump. It's going to get a lot worse. I 151 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: ke been saying this for almost a month now, and 152 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep repeating it. This is not going to 153 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: get better anytime soon. Not the economic distress and not 154 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: the pain from this virus. The idea that this can 155 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: just carry on in this environment is ludicrous, and honestly, 156 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I feel for the fans who've been led to believe 157 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: that this is something that's still gonna go on. Dude, 158 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: we have not even entered April yet, by April fifteenth, 159 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: we might might be at the peak of that. And 160 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: by the way, you mentioned the Florida Native American grounds. 161 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what the rules are for what the 162 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: UFC coul or couldn't do there, if that was an 163 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: opportunity they want to explore. But Number one, yesterday the 164 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: President expanding CDC guidelines until the this month, not relaxing 165 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: them for Easter. Number one, and number two, beyond that, 166 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: the Governor DeSantis in Florida has not taken an aggressive 167 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: approach to the one tool that we have, which is 168 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: keeping people apart from each other. I don't know if 169 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: that place is going to explode, but chances are it's 170 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: probably going to explode. This is all predictable, This is 171 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: all knowable. Brian, and I spend our weekend drinking alcohol 172 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: and watching fights, not making epidemiological models. 173 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: But the people who do. 174 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: Have been saying, look at the math. It's going to 175 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: get worse before it gets better. This idea, as world 176 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: governments close their borders, the only tool they really have 177 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: is going to be an environment where you either can 178 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: or should create fights is just ludicrous. 179 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: Brian. 180 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Look, I cannot believe the MMA world has lost its 181 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: collective mind. 182 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: And look, I am here to say, I don't know 183 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: what the right word is. I mean one am I 184 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: congratulating for you for I will applaud you for having 185 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 2: a stance publicly looke on terms of making it even 186 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: bigger than sports and sticking to that. Yes, I told 187 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: you at times I had to get away from your 188 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: Twitter feed, But how things have played out you seem 189 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: certainly justified in your reactions and your private reactions to 190 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: us and this staff to say, hey, I don't know 191 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: if we should keep going to the studio. So all 192 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: that is confirmed. I'm happy the service you ultimately provided 193 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: to people. But even separate from the life and death issue, 194 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: the political issue, Hey, Dana, Waite and UFC like, I 195 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: don't want to rag on you. I love you, guys. 196 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: We were already starting out the bang with this year. 197 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: This was going to be incredible. It still can be, 198 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: just not now. So I understand the realities. For example 199 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: of Habib Normaga Medov's observance of Ramadan, which sort of 200 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: like we mentioned last week, throws the potential timeline off 201 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: of Habib maybe beating Tony and then fighting Connor and somebody. Look, 202 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 2: that fight can still happen. There's no need to rush this. 203 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: We do not need narratives and fights that have been 204 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: years in the making and built up just either thrown 205 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: away or force out there for no reason. The correct 206 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 2: move would just be UFC going public and saying, look, 207 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: this is bigger than any of us thought for right now, 208 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: so tentatively we will finally do Tony Habib later this summer, 209 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: as soon as Habib is physically able to do it. 210 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: Hopefully the world will be back on orbit by then. 211 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: But Luke just about the fights and the narratives, not 212 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: even the health. This would be a dramatically poor decision 213 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: in just throwing away the journey in the road to 214 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: get to this fight. For just I promised you fights, 215 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: so you're gonna get them. 216 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, UFC two forty nine, robbing Peter to pay Paul. 217 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: What is the point if you've waited all this long 218 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: for Tony versus Kobeb, just wait a little bit longer. 219 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Brian, we've had this conversation before. 220 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: I'll repeat it again. There's no such thing as the mma. Godds, 221 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: there is no such thing as curses. I know it 222 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: feels that way because we've been dying to get it. 223 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: I was at was a UFC two seven or two 224 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: to nine whenever, I can't even remember the number anymore. 225 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: When it was on the co main event to the 226 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: Wonder Boy and Woodley rematch. I went to that. We 227 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: were there, we spent all this money to go there, 228 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: and then that fight doesn't even happen. 229 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 3: I believe me. 230 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: I have been waiting for this fight like everybody else has. 231 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: But the idea we can just throw it away and 232 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: throw justin in there, justin. I think you had told me, 233 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: think you had shown me the link you had texted 234 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: to me before the show. 235 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: Brian, I give you credit. 236 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: You'd find a link from Aaron Bronstead or speaking to 237 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: Justin some time ago in a red car. But I 238 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: think for the MMA Awards being like, well, he was 239 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: offered to fight Tony on four weeks. 240 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: Notice he couldn't do it. 241 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: We're not even talking about the fact that these guys 242 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: can't train. We're not even talking about the fact that 243 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: if they are going to get COVID testing, are we 244 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: taking away COVID tests from people who actually might need 245 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: it more than just athletes in a recreational activity. We're 246 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: not even talking about the fact that are they going 247 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: to go to a place where the hospitals might be 248 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: not able to provide the. 249 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: Resources that they need to give medical care. 250 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: We're not even talking about any of that, and they're 251 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: all relevant considerations. Here's another one. It's like, dude, the 252 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: curse is not real. You gotta say it out loud. 253 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Curse is not real. I'm a guy who's a Washington 254 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: sports fan. I didn't see a championship in this town 255 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: since I was a kid living on East Capitol Street 256 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: down the street from RFK, and I would see all 257 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: the Hawk fans come through to watch, and it was 258 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: you could go to a bar and get served a 259 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: drink from somebody who was alive after the last time 260 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: the Ridskins or anybody in town had ever won anything. 261 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: It had been that long. 262 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: But dude, and then the Caps one, and then the 263 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: Nats one, then the Mystics one and whatever. It would 264 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: be turned into a championship town. If you have a 265 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: good process and it's clean, and it's considered, and it's 266 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: you just keep swinging the axe, it will happen. What 267 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: on earth is the point of having just on its 268 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: fight terms Brian Tony versus Justin, which is a good 269 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: fight under these conditions where they can't possibly train right, 270 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: And then if Justin wins, which he might, because hello, 271 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: Justin's a badass. Now you've ruined Tony versus Kobeb, which 272 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: you might say, well, if he was gonna lose to Justine, 273 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: you should have lost anyway, right, But that was Kobeb's 274 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: doing to get this is for Brian, the greatest lightweight 275 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: fighter of all time. 276 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: It's one way that way. 277 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 2: I hate to interrupt somebody just to rudely tell them 278 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: that they pronounced our hen Tina wrong. But you had 279 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: me at hello. I'm with you almost the full distance, 280 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: except for when you said there's no such thing as 281 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: a curse. This isn't cursed, bro this thing's efen cursed. 282 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: Get webscream on the phone. This thing's cursed. Doesn't mean 283 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: you shouldn't wait another time and continue and try to wait. 284 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: But this thing's fin badly cursed. 285 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: Luke, Come on, no, it's not. It feels that way. 286 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: Once the damn breaks, you realize you're not under its 287 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: spell anymore. Right now, Brian, you're under the spell. And 288 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: for years in this town, I was under this spell. 289 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: Last thing about this one more note about it if 290 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: we can. Joe Rogan had said, now this is before 291 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: all this other news broke like Joe said this under 292 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: the assumption Tony en Kabeb we're going to fight, but 293 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: he says he's not going to commentate. 294 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: It's gonna be somebody else. 295 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: I think the fact that you're one of your longest 296 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: standing employees, one of the most important figures, frankly in 297 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: MMA history, perhaps its greatest ambassador to the mainstream. Has said, yeah, 298 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: maybe traveling during this time is not something I feel 299 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: safe doing, given I have a family. Isn't that a 300 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: hello moment? 301 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, Yes, it is a hello moment, And while 302 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: even in real time, right now you're seeing guys like 303 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: Dustin Pourier, true warriors saying I'll fight, I'll fill the 304 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: card on April eighteenth. Let's have some fun. You need 305 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: to take this away from them, that opportunity because fighters 306 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: are heroes, they have a soldier mentality. They will take 307 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: really bad chances just for the fun of it. And 308 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: I understand the cabin fever, and I understand all of that. 309 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: But Joe Rogan is suddenly the real voice of reason 310 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: and the accompany man like you mentioned there. Just because 311 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: Jorge Mazavidal is willing to fight Kamara Usman right now 312 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: doesn't mean you should do it. Let's just continue pressing 313 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: pause wherever you stand politically or any of that. Turn 314 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: on the news and see what's going on in New 315 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: York City, for example, and I think you're gonna realize 316 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: fairly quickly that UFC fights not a priority right now. 317 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: By the way, WrestleMania not a priority either, although ww 318 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: was able to pre tape that and pull it off. 319 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: And you can make certainly some real connections between the 320 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: mindsets of a Vince McMahon and a Dana White. But 321 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: Luke I wanted to close quickly on Dana. He's given 322 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,239 Speaker 2: so many interviews over Instagram, has made so many headlines, 323 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: but some of those headlines seem to be coming at 324 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: you and bringing you into this. If I'm gonna call 325 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: out Dana for the biggest egregious offense, it was that 326 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: Kevin Ioli interview where he basically was like, I've had 327 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: a great run, Bring on, Corona. I'm not afraid of it. 328 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: I'll take it on now to me. I am a 329 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: fan of giving people their forum. I had a Uriah 330 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: Faber on my podcast the other day and he's like, 331 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: i'll fight tomorrow, cash is king. I didn't interrupt him 332 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: because that's his forum, his take, and there are two 333 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: sides to every story, and I try to stay largely 334 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: in the middle. But when Dana's openly saying Corona come 335 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: get me, that's where I'm like, this is a really 336 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: bad message. 337 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: What will be the difference between that and what you'r 338 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: Riah saying? It's essentially the same thing. 339 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: Now, there's a reckless nature to it. It's basically putting 340 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: out a message that that you're invincible. 341 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: To that. 342 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: I get fighters just being like, look, I'll take that chance. 343 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm a fighter. But there's a recklessness to that, Luke. 344 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: That is just people follow that, people see that, people 345 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: hear that, people go Okay, if it's good enough for him, 346 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: it's good enough for me. 347 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: So they're both equally reckless. I see no distinction between 348 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: them other than the packaging of it. But in terms 349 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: of its message, I'll get out there and compete, and 350 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: by the way, risk potentially getting sick and in the process, 351 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: risk getting other people sick. I mean, I mean, yes, 352 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: anybody's allowed to. If you want to endanger your own 353 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: safety on some level, I suppose you are allowed to 354 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: do that. Right that is technically part of something you're 355 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: allowed to do, which you're not allowed to do is 356 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: endanger anyone else. And unless you have a keen, not 357 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: even a keen, I would say, even a basic understanding 358 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: what experts have been telling us about this thing, just 359 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: saying we're gonna soldier on. It's not about you, per se, 360 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: It's about everybody else. Here's what I think the UFC 361 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: should be doing that. I think they've got two options, 362 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: as far as I can tell. One, if you can 363 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: provide some kind of economic relief to the fighters in 364 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: the short term two three months, I think that'd be 365 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: a big help. I don't know if they can do that. 366 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if they want to do that, but 367 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: that's one option. The other part is that the two 368 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: trillion dollar relief package that was passed by our United 369 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: States Congress in there is something called the Pandemic Unemployment 370 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Assistance which independent contractors would be eligible for. I think 371 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: either you're going to give them some assistance directly, or 372 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: you're going to provide guidance on what they can get 373 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: in terms of that. And that's really the only option here. 374 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: What can we do to put money in the hands 375 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: of fighters as soon as possible. That's the issue, and 376 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: the issue is not via fighting. It's independent of that, 377 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: and we do have some options. 378 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: So you just said the. 379 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: Issue is not via fighting. So jokes aside of whether 380 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: Dana's takedown defense would be good enough against you, since 381 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: I labeled you last week as on the opposite ends 382 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: of the extreme, although I'm not saying your message is wrong, 383 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: can we get data on an interview on your radio 384 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: show or on this show you and Dana wan on 385 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: one to really get the issues put to the forefront 386 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: and get challenged, because I do believe you've had an 387 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: issue with how people have left him off the hook, 388 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: and they're in sort of the media's responsibility in this. 389 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: Would you be open to that with Dana? I know 390 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: UFC Fight pass blocked you on Twitter, Luke, but would 391 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: you be open to that? 392 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: Sure? 393 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: And we've requested multiple times for him to be on 394 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: they get routinely rejected. So if they if that was 395 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: an opportunity he wanted to explore, yes, of course, how 396 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: would I ever say no? But if passed his prologue, 397 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: it's not an opportunity it's going to be afforded to 398 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: people like me. Now, with that being said, we'll come 399 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: back to some more Dana Whitehawk as relays to ZUFA Boxing. 400 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: A little bit later. 401 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: There were some other headlines last week that are just 402 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: kind of not I would say unbelievable Brian Campbell, but 403 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: I suppose they're not. Let's get the graphic up so 404 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: I know in a slide right here a little bit 405 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: there it is UFC Light Heavyweight champion John Jones was 406 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: arrested last week four counts, but only two of significance, 407 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: the first one being the negligent use of a firearm 408 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: in Albuquerque, New Mexico. But the more important of the 409 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: two was that he was arrested for aggravated DWY what 410 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: has aggravated me in this case, meaning you didn't really 411 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: break the law by virtue of having too much high 412 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: of a level of BAC, but that it was extraordinarily high. Now, Brian, 413 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of reactions to this. His people have 414 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: come out. No, because these people have not come out 415 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: and given a formal statement, and the UFC has said 416 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: they're looking into it. The arresting officers statement can be read. 417 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: And there was body cam footage that came out. I 418 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: watched maybe two minutes of it, Brian, and I couldn't 419 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: take any more of it. And I have to tell 420 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: you why, which is I feel for the guy to 421 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: be honest with you, Man, I know that. Look, I 422 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: don't expect his rivals, whether they're in his division or 423 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: it's Israel Atasanya didn't necessarily say nice. 424 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: Things, and they didn't. 425 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: Dominic Rayes didn't say nice things, and on Blhovich and 426 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: certainly Israel didn't. I don't know what you can really 427 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: expect in those particular circumstances. But for the people who 428 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: are neutral in this case, you don't know. John you 429 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: don't know them, you're just observing from a far I 430 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: would count myself in that, maybe you as well, and 431 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: the most of the fan base. Man, My conscience just 432 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: won't let me make fun of him. If anything, it 433 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: looks to me like you ask yourself, if you're in 434 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: your twenties and you're a young man and you're getting 435 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: in trouble, it doesn't make it okay, but you can 436 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: kind of understand it if you're still doing that in 437 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: your thirties, where you're mixing vehicles, drinking and firearms in 438 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: the middle of a pandemic. It's not merely a function 439 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: of risk assessment being bad. It speaks to me to 440 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: something perhaps deeper. Now what that is, Brian, I'm not 441 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: a doctor. I don't know, but it looks to me 442 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: like somebody who is a kind of care provider in 443 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: that way, or who has some expertise, needs to make 444 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: an assessment and something bigger has to happen here for 445 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: him in terms of treatment. Because this was hard to watch, dude, 446 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: it was legitimately hard to watch. 447 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: My heart goes out to him. 448 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: To be honest, I can't take pleasure in other people's 449 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: pain that way. I can't take pleasure in that man's suffering. 450 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: I was really alarmed by it. 451 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: What about you? 452 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you nailed it. And look in the in 453 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: the recent John Jones public regressions, whether it be the 454 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: whole Yusada, you know, era of questioning whether he was 455 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: you know, innocent or guilty, mixed with his brushes with 456 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: the law being stripped of the title so many times, 457 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: you'd always had sort of a split fifty to fifty 458 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 2: of people basically going, look this reckless guy, he deserves it. 459 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: When's he gonna ever change? Mixed with you know, kind 460 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: of feel bad for the guy. I think this development 461 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 2: right now, seemingly when we're already passed the idea of 462 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: him having made a personal comeback. Oh remember those years, 463 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 2: in those days when John was so reckless. Now he's 464 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: put it together, Well he hasn't, So I think now 465 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: we're in the point where I really believe everyone's motive 466 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: and response should be more of grace and worry and care, 467 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: not necessarily forgiveness, but just of he's showing you that 468 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 2: he has legitimate problems here, maybe even mental issues that 469 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 2: need adjusting. I mean, Luke, you know, I'm no different 470 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: than a lot of people out there. I mean, I've 471 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: had underdiagnosed mental health issues in my late teens and 472 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: early twenties that led to substance abuse. I look back 473 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: on it now and sort of understand it a lot 474 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: better didn't understand it then, And I certainly have a 475 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 2: lot of sympathy for what's really going on, because at 476 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: each step of the way for John Jones, there had 477 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: never really been a full on, despite him apologizing, despite 478 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: him always sort of being able to say the right 479 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: thing in the right moment and lean on his faith 480 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: and all that. If you pick deeper in deep interviews 481 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: and conversations, you know he regularly would mention, oh, I 482 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 2: still go out to clubs, I still drink, I still party. 483 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 2: I just don't do this stuff that was obviously giant 484 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: red flags. But now you're in a scary territory where 485 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 2: you're waiting for the real rock bottom and looke. You know, 486 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: everyone's different. Sometimes the real rock bottom is death, or 487 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: sometimes the real rock bottom is a public scare or 488 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: an embarrassment. We're past scared and embarrassment, but we are 489 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: entering into even more dangerous territory where you're more worried 490 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: about his life by all means than any form of 491 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: fight legacy. This statement has been uttered before, and I 492 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: think it's still true. It's amazing that John Jones is 493 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: equally the greatest fighter of all time and the greatest 494 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: cautionary tale in UFC in anime history at the same 495 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: time competing against each other. I mean, whether you thought 496 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: Don Reis or or Maheta Santos one or not, John 497 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: Jones still held the title up at the end and 498 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: was victorious against some of the best fighters in the world. 499 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: He still got it inside that cage, but boy does 500 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: he not have it outside. And Luke, I'm really at 501 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: that moment now where it's like, please, not only were 502 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: we saying suspend all fights for the moment during Corona season, 503 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: suspend all John Jones fights, And let's really the people 504 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: around him, the coaches, the family members, the UFC just 505 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 2: forced him into a level of facing the truth of 506 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: what's really bringing these these experiences on in his life 507 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: and why he can't sort of put those demons away 508 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: and save his life first more than anything else. Because 509 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: at this point, Luke, I don't how could you have 510 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 2: a bad thing to say At this point, I care 511 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: about the man. I want to see him okay and 512 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: not making much worse headlines. 513 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: And there's good news here to an extent, which is 514 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: that you know, you and I grew up in the 515 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: era of the Dot Goodins and the Darryl Strawberries. You know, 516 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: we know how far a famous, rich, celebrated athlete can 517 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: fall if things aren't taken into consideration in terms of 518 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: the full breadth of treatment. Now, those men had their 519 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: own situations. I'm not saying Johnny's equivalent, but here's what 520 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: I am saying, Brian, he still has his title, he's 521 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: still winning, and he still has his money. As far 522 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: as we know right, he's still been a strong key earner. 523 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: Those things the titles are not important. But in terms 524 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: of even his wealth and being able to take care 525 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: of his family and himself. 526 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: He actually hasn't lost that yet. He still has it. 527 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: There is still time to make sure we don't get 528 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: to a point where the real big part of the 529 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: tragedy or even worse, you know, his physical health and 530 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: beyond that I don't even want to talk about that. 531 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying thing is to an extent, and 532 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: some kind of intervention is possible, to the extent that 533 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: some kind of lifeline or just come to Jesus woman, 534 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call and classify it as you're 535 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 1: actually operating from a point where he is still a 536 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: talented professional who hasn't lost all his money. Dude, that's 537 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: a big thing that you don't often see that in 538 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: a lot of cases. We've got one here, you know. 539 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of guidance the UFC is 540 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: gonna provide or should I'm not saying the pandemic is good, 541 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: but this is a time for for him. I hope 542 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: to hit the reset button and I'll say it one 543 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: more time. Whoever is in a position to give him 544 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: the help that he needs, please do it. 545 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, yeah, it's nail day. Can we 546 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: have a thirty second convo spinning off of this, luke, 547 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 2: with no disrespect to the serious nature of it is? 548 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 2: Are you of the belief that John has left a 549 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: certain amount on the table in his career because of 550 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: this and because of the constant problems, or maybe a 551 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: little bit more like some of those problems fueled some 552 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: of his best performances. Always bring it back to Manny 553 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: pac yao. Whether you believe there were substance performance dancing 554 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: drugs in that or not. He went through that peak 555 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: era of his career, stop and people left and right, 556 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 2: and then when he turned his life around and cleaned up, 557 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: it became more of a point fighter. How much do 558 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 2: you think John Jones didn't show us over the length 559 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: of his career when we're already calling him the damn. 560 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: Go I think you've seen a lot of what he 561 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: has to offer. But my hunch, and it's just that, Brian, 562 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't really know. My hunch is that you've not 563 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: seen his upper bound limit of ability. 564 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: In fact, by the time in the. 565 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: Last five years, when he really let's say last two 566 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: or three, when he's really kind of hunkered down and 567 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: been in training, you know, not taking time off between camps, 568 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: that sort of a thing you've seen. I think his 569 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: defensive fundamentals grow. But you know, he's thirty two now, 570 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: almost gonna be thirty three coming up. He's been fighting 571 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: since he was basically twenty almost a teenager in terms 572 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: of training and everything else. Like his drop off just 573 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: naturally is gonna happen a little bit sooner than people 574 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: who got started a little bit later, by virtue of 575 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: the years, by virtue of the wear and tear, and 576 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: those formative years he spent a lot of time partying. 577 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, some of the stories I've heard i've never 578 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: had corroborated. I can't repeat him, but if they're at 579 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: all true, it's shocking what he's been able to do. 580 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: So this is my point. It's like, for all of 581 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: the bad things that have happened, for all the times 582 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: there's been missteps, we've not reached in terms of some 583 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: of the things you could identify a cataclysmic level of decline. 584 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: Now is the time to get this right. Now is 585 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: the time to sort these problems. And so I think 586 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: he's a He might be the great fighter, as you said, 587 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: he might be the grace of all time. But I 588 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: still think he's left some stuff on the table. I 589 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: hope that he still has more to give, because whatever 590 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: he's going through now doesn't get in that way. 591 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: And I hope that Corona season, Luke, while we're all 592 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 2: pressing pause on our lives, could help us. As I 593 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 2: mentioned last week, bury the hatchet on everything. So we're 594 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: gonna get you to follow back you on on Instagram, 595 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: your choice, how many hands you want to use. We 596 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: want to get you to interview Dana, and I want 597 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: to get you in one of them. Remember that weird 598 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: thing you did with Brendan was like Java Bros. Or something. 599 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 2: I need you and John Jones to sit down and 600 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 2: talk and bury the hatchet and have a moment there, luc. 601 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 3: Most of those are just simply not up to me. 602 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: That's like bringing Carol and Joe Exotic together, Luke. 603 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: All right, speaking of which, we gotta move on. We'll 604 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: get to that a little bit later. Next up, Roan, 605 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: let's go to you on this. So as I turned 606 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: my chair, there we are. Let's have at it. We 607 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: have Billy Joe Saunders over the week. I mean, who 608 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: goes out there, even if you're joking and you're a 609 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: popular celebrity, who goes out there and goes you know what, 610 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a video. 611 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be joking. 612 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna teach folks, teach how to beat. 613 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: Your woman, your wife or whoever. 614 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: If they just start to annoy you, It's like, dude, 615 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: do you have friends Billy Joe that just tell you yo? 616 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: Man? 617 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a real fucking stupid idea. I guess 618 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't. Anyway, point is this He went ahead and 619 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 1: made it. He was obviously joking, but it was a 620 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: stupid joke at a bare minimum. 621 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: There was a backlass. 622 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: Clarisia Shields put out something, Heather Hardy said something about it, 623 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: and then the BBBC, essentially the Commission of Sorts in 624 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: the UK, suspended his license. Brian, how stupid of this 625 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: was this for mister Billy Joe Saunders. 626 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's certainly I mean, it's unadmonisrable, it's supremely stupid. 627 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: Unfortunately for him, Luke, if this was like a first 628 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: defense in this category, I mean, I don't know how 629 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: you justify it, but you can say, strike one horrible idea. 630 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: We don't use that kind of humor in twenty twenty 631 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: in the US, let alone anywhere else. But the problem 632 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: is when you dig deeper on Billy Joel, Billy Joe, 633 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: Billy Joel, good God, get that guy off the road. 634 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: When you dig deep on Billy Joe, Luke, he's got 635 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: a long history of really bad public comments. Look, he's 636 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: a proud Irish traveler gypsy like Tyson Fury, and I 637 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: think with that has been this boldness to say whatever 638 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: they please publicly. Damn the torpedoes and there's consequences that 639 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: come with that. And for Billy Joe Saunders right now, 640 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: he was poised to be getting into that Super to 641 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: Wait title pay per view bout Sinko de Myo weekend 642 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: against Canelo overas in Las Vegas, where obviously Luke just Corona, 643 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: you know, anyway, could have held that fight back from happening. 644 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: Now this suspension, it's like, does he deserve to still 645 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: have a shot at that fight? No, this is deplorable, 646 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: This is awful. Billy Joe has a track record of 647 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: doing this type of stuff. Hey, you remember his fight 648 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: against Willie Monroe Junior at the way in when Billy 649 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: Joe's son came up and punched punched Monroe and the jewels. 650 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: I mean, look this like it's fun in games in 651 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: that moment. And I'm sure there are people who watch 652 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: Billy Joe's video and just went, Okay, it's awful. But 653 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: he's just he's just fooling around, laugh at it. No, No, 654 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: you're losing this case. You know it's twenty twenty. Come on, 655 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: wake ud. If you can't do that, yeah, you should 656 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: lose the Canelo fight because of that. 657 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: Well, listen, Billy Joe Biden not too smart to just 658 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: go off there, off the cuff and just say whatever 659 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna say. 660 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: People don't seem to understand this. 661 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, that you can avoid being prosecuted by 662 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: the government for your actions because you're not screaming fire 663 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: and crowded theater is one thing. But private actors, whether 664 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: they're sponsors, fans, or any number of other intermediaries, they 665 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: are also going to be able to have a say 666 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: about this. If you're on the cusp of a record payday. 667 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: This is just me thinking out loud, Brian, and I 668 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little bit out there obviously. As 669 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, maybe joking about beating the shit out of 670 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: women won't get you a world record payday. 671 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: Now. 672 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: I know that might be extreme. I know, might I 673 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: know I might be thinking outside the box here, but 674 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I wanted to manage wealth, I'm 675 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: guessing even if I didn't mean any harm. Look, there 676 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: are just some things in life you have to shut 677 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: the fuck up about. 678 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: You just kind of have said, and I want to 679 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: say this. Look, I don't want to live in a 680 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: cancel culture. I don't want to live in a lack 681 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: of freedom of speech culture, even if that speeches is horrific. 682 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: Guess what we make horrible offensive jokes on this show 683 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: from time to time. I don't want somebody to pick 684 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: that out and be like, cancel Brian Campbell. But Billy 685 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: Joe went out of his way to make this video 686 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: like it was like a theme for the video. This 687 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: wasn't oh, we had a camera on him in a 688 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: bar and he cracked a joke. This was him putting 689 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 2: it out to the masses. So yes, there is a 690 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: price to pay for that. And somewhat related to this story, Luca, 691 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: a news item that kind of got buried in the 692 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: past week was Canelo Alpha is his team going public 693 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: and saying we've agreed in principle to a third fight 694 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 2: with Gnati Glovekin this fall. Finally does Zones dream all 695 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: that money they put in, It's gonna happen. And if 696 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: you read some of that language in the report from 697 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: Lance Pugmyer of The Athletic, there was that should the 698 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: coronavirus pushed boxing season out a while to the summer, 699 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: they would essentially skip over the Billie Joe Saunders fight 700 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: and go right into that Triple G trilogy so in 701 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: some cases, Luke, with everything going on right now, and god, 702 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: I can't believe the sport of boxing, by the way, 703 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: is becoming the adult in the combat sports room and 704 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: is like, let's cancel everything. There's a good chance this 705 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: fight was never meant to happen anyway. Just to put 706 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: that out there, would you pop by the way for 707 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: thirty eight year old triple G against Canelo three? 708 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: Finally, Yeah, I mean I'd be lying if I said no, 709 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: but just won't revisit this last thing one more time. 710 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: It's like to your cancel culture point. I don't want 711 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: to be in that kind of scenario either. But you 712 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: just have to understand think about things rationally. If you 713 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: say something out in public, let's say again it's a 714 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: First Amendment privilege, losing this country, you avoid criminal prosecution. 715 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: You have to understand what the blowback might be to that, 716 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: and then you have to ask yourself is it worth it? 717 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: And there might be certain cases where speaking out amidst 718 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: blowback is really worth it to you. You just need 719 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: to know what you're gonna be up against. You cannot 720 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: be surprised that people did not find it especially charming 721 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: that you made a again I don't think he meant 722 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: any harm. I know he clarified he didn't me any harm. 723 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that Billy Joe meant any harm. But 724 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: you got to remember a lot of people are not 725 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: going to be as forgiving as you or I, or 726 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: at least understand that. 727 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: They're not going to find it as amusing. 728 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: They're going to say something about it that is going 729 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: to cause a chain reaction of events. Are you willing 730 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: to go through with that? Was the joke that important 731 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: to you? And if it's not, shut the fuck up, 732 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: it's not that big of a deal. All you got 733 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: deprived of was the ability to make a joke about 734 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: hitting women. You'll be fine and where sheets are still clean, 735 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: your bank account is still full. Just shut the fuck up. 736 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: And if anyone hasn't seen the video, and Billy Joe 737 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: Saunders has taken down his Twitter account, the video has 738 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: been largely wiped off the internet. But there's like detail 739 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: on how you should hit a woman and then encounter 740 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: to knock her out. So again, it's not just a 741 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: passing comment. But to what you mentioned, if it is 742 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: work it worth it, Luke, then please let me work it. 743 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 2: I'll actually take my thing down. I'll flip it and. 744 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: It's and by the way, you're right. 745 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: You had Eddie Hearn today canceling all Matchroom Boxing events 746 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: through May, so the Usick fight with Chazora and then 747 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: some other ones as well. It's like, how are Aerum 748 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: and Hearn getting this right at MMA? I forget it. 749 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Dana White, let's go to 750 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: our next topic if we can. He also made news 751 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: and that I think it was the Kevin I only 752 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: interview as well as I leaned to the right here 753 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: for the graphic. Not so sure about ZUFA Boxing. Brian Campbell, 754 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: Dana White came out and I found this one kind 755 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: of interesting. We all know that there was supposed to 756 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: be something related to a press conference in October didn't happen. 757 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: Then November didn't happen, December, January, February, and of course 758 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: March has been something of a crazy month. But you 759 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: had all that other time to make announcements about ZUFA Boxing. 760 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: I know they've been reporting in the industry that there 761 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: had been hirings inside of ZUFA to get it done. 762 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: There was that intimated deal. It wasn't explicitly stated, it 763 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: was part of ZUFA Boxing, but with Floyd Mayweather. So 764 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: you're thinking to yourself, Wow, this might be something here. 765 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: Now he's saying he doesn't know if boxing can be fixed, 766 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: that the business is a mess. It's a different kind 767 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: of buyer. Brian Campbell. Is ZUFA boxing dead before it 768 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: ever got off the ground. 769 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was always going to be Luke. He's not wrong. 770 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: This is boxing, right. Why do you think Why do 771 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: you think that Bobs eighty eighty nine whatever and is 772 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: still at the top of his peak of his game 773 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: and Don King went into his eighties still putting on 774 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: big time fights and it's larger the same players over 775 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: and over again. It's a cutthroat, shark infested business that 776 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: you can't just walk right in and do essentially exactly 777 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 2: what Dana White did to make the UFC what it is. 778 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: We have to remember this for as broken as boxing 779 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: is right now, still pretty functional, it's not UFC in 780 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, two thousand, two thousand and one, when 781 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: you couldn't even get the sport, you know, regulated around 782 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 2: TV to a larger extent, what Dana White and the 783 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: Fertidas did to save that sport to inject all the 784 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: things into it that they missed about boxing. It was brilliant. 785 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 2: They made it work. But for years we've been sort 786 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: of arguing, is there a savior who could come into 787 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: boxing and has the right amount of money, the promotional ability, 788 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: the celebrity ability, the resources that everything to make a 789 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: run at actually becoming a player and changing it. Dana's 790 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 2: name had certainly been mentioned for years, but Luke, unless 791 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: in the current status right now, he did something, for 792 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 2: example like joined forces with Al Hayman and the PBC, 793 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: which has TV contracts with Shoe Time and Fox and 794 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 2: has in its managerial stable essentially half of the fighters 795 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 2: in boxing globally. That matter, unless that was the case 796 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 2: and they turned PBC into a legitimate UFC, putting doors 797 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: on the borders and saying we have our own champions, 798 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: Screw the IBF and WBO and all that. We have 799 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 2: our own champions, We got big TV deals. We are 800 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: going to retrain the industry that if you ain't in 801 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 2: UFC or PBC, you ain't in the elite level of boxing. 802 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 2: That plan, by the way, wouldn't have necessarily worked because 803 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: you've got the ogs like Bob Ahram who are gonna 804 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 2: dig in with their ESPN TV deal and their stable 805 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: of big name fighters and be like, uh yeah, not 806 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 2: so fast. So it was always an uphill battle that 807 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: really wasn't going to be able to be one unless 808 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 2: UFC ZUFA had a long term educated plan. The problem 809 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: becomes that boxing is even more segregated right now than 810 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: it was in the two thousands in the beginning of 811 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,479 Speaker 2: this past decade, because now TV networks are so tied 812 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 2: in specifically with one promoter that you really have leagues 813 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 2: and teams and separations. So when I heard the Dana 814 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: White interview on the Chris Mannix Sports Illustrated Boxing Pot 815 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: a couple months ago in which Chris really pressed him, 816 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: and Dana's ultimate answer on what ZUFA boxing would look 817 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: like was too many things at once. He's like, Yeah, 818 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 2: we want to be a promoter, we want to be 819 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: a manager. We would also be willing to just stream 820 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: fights on Fight Pass. We'd be willing to take the 821 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: UFC apex and put fights on that. You can't be 822 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: at all, right, Luke. You know Washington Redskins history. If 823 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 2: you have two quarterbacks, it means you have none. You 824 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: can't be at all. You got to pick a lane. 825 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: Dana never picked that lane. And history shows us that 826 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: the people with a lot of money you come into boxing, 827 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: the jay Z's, the fifty Cents, the Sugar Ray, Leonards, 828 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: the name it on and on and on. Who think 829 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 2: they're gonna come in and tomorrow be a big time 830 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: player and promoter. It's not that easy. And in boxing, 831 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: more than any other sport, there's the halves and the 832 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: have nots, and the havelves will be willing to slice 833 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 2: your throat to keep the food on their own table. 834 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 2: So again, Dana was very misguided and thinking he could 835 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 2: walk in tomorrow and with a lot of money in 836 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: an infrastructure, just be like, yeah, let's make Mayweather McGregor 837 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: all over again every weekend. Can't do it. 838 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: Can't do it, bro, That's right. 839 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: If you have Rex Grossman and John Beck or RG 840 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: three and Kirk Cousins, it turns out all you really 841 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: have is Colt McCoy. I certainly agree with your analysis there. 842 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: Let me just add here a couple of things. Chris 843 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: Mannix did do a pretty good job of pressing him, 844 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: and every time someone does, though, Dana, to his credit, 845 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: is pretty good about like keeping his cards close to 846 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: the vest. Okay, But here's what I would love to know. 847 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: When you say that the sport of boxing is broken, 848 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm not unwilling to believe that, But what do you 849 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: mean specifically? Why is it who broke it? And what 850 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: would the potential solution be to getting there? And is 851 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: that solution legal? And what I mean by that is 852 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 1: there is some federal oversight that the ALI Act about 853 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: promoters not being able to have their own titles. 854 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 3: That doesn't affect MMA, so. 855 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: They've got a little bit more regulatory room in MMA 856 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: to do the kinds of things that they do. It's 857 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 1: not illegal there, but it wouldn't be possible in boxing. 858 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: How do you do that unless you get those laws changed. 859 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: It just doesn't seem clear. 860 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: So to counter that, Luke, you know, Al Hayman and 861 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: the PBC, by staying technically on the record as a 862 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 2: manager and not a promoter in using other promoters to 863 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: put on the shows, have been able to some degree 864 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 2: pull it off legally. But yes, boxing's broken. It's an 865 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: uphill battle, you know, that's the frame, that's the structure. 866 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 2: It's broken because people are willing to kill others to 867 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 2: keep the food on their own table, and there's no 868 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: centralized body, whether that be a government centralized body or 869 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 2: a league structure in which everybody wants to join together 870 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: for the health of the sport to make long term money. 871 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 2: Everybody wants the short term money. People only play well 872 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 2: together if you got maypack money on the table or 873 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: while they're fury money on the table. 874 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: Well, last thing I'll say about this is I would 875 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: love to just know more about those details. I think 876 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: the other part I would say here is a lot 877 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: of people think that the folks in charge of boxing 878 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: are stupid. 879 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 3: Well, they might be. 880 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: A little bit what do you want to call it, morally, 881 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, loose with the rules a little bit, but 882 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: they're not stupid. And they've been there a long time. 883 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: I think it was stated yesterday or maybe Saturday, Brian 884 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: that one of the first cards that was ever promoted 885 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: by Bob Aarm in the sixties Ali versus Truvallo. You know, 886 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: this guy's been doing this literally for all that well 887 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: most of that decade, then the seventies, then the eighties 888 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: and the nineties, than the aughts, the twenty tens, and 889 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: here we are and this guy is still out there 890 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: doing it. People are smart, they understand it. It's just 891 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: it's a big challenge. It just cannot be done that easily. 892 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: And so I listened to the boxing people when they 893 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: said they'd welcomeedd In and White. 894 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 3: They were curious to see what he could do. 895 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: But now that you got to look under the hood, 896 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: it looks like he thinks he found a lemon and honestly, 897 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: better attention spent towards the MMA properties not the worst 898 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 1: idea in the world. 899 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 3: After we get through this pandemic. 900 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: Uh. That takes us to our last and final of 901 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: the five topics today, Brian Campbell. It has taken the 902 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: world by storm. I don't know if you're Bagavon doc 903 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: Antler or you're Joe Exotic, because I'm going to be 904 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: one of those people alongside of you. But Tiger King, 905 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: the number one trending show on Netflix, has been a 906 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,479 Speaker 1: tour de force, as Brendan Schab calls him, the King 907 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: of the Quarantine, because everyone on home has socially distancing themselves, 908 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: has been watching this. It has taken over everything. Br 909 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't go to you first on this because I 910 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: know you You finished the whole thing, yes or no, 911 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: very quickly. 912 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I have finished it. 913 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, why is Tiger King so popular? 914 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'll give a shout out to my CBS colleague 915 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: Brandon Wise, who was like, dude, drop everything. I'm sure 916 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 2: everybody had one person in their life who was like, 917 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 2: you need to watch this tomorrow. Yeah, you do need 918 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 2: to watch this today. Actually, good god. It's it's a 919 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 2: car wreck, but it's one of the most glossed up 920 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 2: lipstick car RECs that has such insane swerves and developments 921 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: that it has to be real because you couldn't write 922 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,479 Speaker 2: this stuff. Now, look long term, larger picture, there's there's 923 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 2: ways that these stories were told that were very reality 924 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 2: TV like I'm sure in which maybe we didn't get 925 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 2: all the truth in there. But the reason why people 926 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 2: are stuck to this, and rightfully so, is the characters 927 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 2: you find within this documentary are like, I mean, if 928 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 2: people like pro wrestling Luke because they like a little 929 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 2: craziness in their life, this is like, this is like, uh, 930 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: you know, forget on steroids. This is insanity. The amount 931 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 2: of ridiculous players involved, the characters that as you're watching it, 932 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 2: the most fun game you can play is like, okay, 933 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 2: for right now, I think this character right Joe exotic. 934 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: He's the only one with a with a heart and 935 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: a moral code. And then two minutes later you're like, 936 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 2: oh my god, he did that too. He probably killed 937 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 2: a man. So you're constantly not really able to identify 938 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 2: who's the villain, who's the hero. In the end, they're 939 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 2: all villains, it seems. But I think people like a 940 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 2: little bit of crazy for sure. But look, the best 941 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 2: thing I could say is this is very reminiscent of 942 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: a first time shroom's trip. You get in there, you go, Okay, 943 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 2: this is fun. I can handle this. Oh this is 944 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 2: a little bit weird. Oh my god, get me off 945 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 2: this ride. I'm never gonna change. I'm gonna be like 946 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 2: this forever. Oh my god, I can't do this. Oh 947 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 2: I kind of like this again. Oh this makes me 948 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 2: feel dirty, but I'm gonna stay with it. Oh my god, 949 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: I need this. We need to get more. Let's get 950 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: another a ball and last this all weekend. Oh and 951 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 2: then it ends and you're just like, wow, I just 952 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 2: gave a lot of time to that. Wow, You're right, 953 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 2: I'll never be the same, but I think I'm kind 954 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: of happy about that. Get dirty, get involved in this. 955 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: If you watch this show and think it's overrated. There's 956 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 2: something wrong with you. Luke. Yes, this is redneck territory. 957 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 2: This is murder for higher territory. This is a man 958 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: with three husbands, and I don't know if any of 959 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: the three enjoy the pleasure of another man. They just 960 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 2: like met than tigers. But stay for that, it's worth it. 961 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean, just think about all the different subplots, or 962 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: at least themes or ideas that run through the show. Ready, 963 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: true crime, right, fragile masculinity, animal conservation and you know, 964 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: animal conservation slash animal abuse because you get the tiger 965 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: petting and all that kind of stuff that's part of it. Polygamy, 966 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: gay polygamy, not even gay polygamy but still kind of 967 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: well it's definitely gay polygamy, but gay polygamy with straight dudes. 968 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: You've got parts of the South, redneck America. There's a 969 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: one armed woman, well you got one armed woman who 970 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: was eaten by tiger. You've got business competitors, so they're 971 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: you know, it's all that kind of thing. You've got 972 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: Internet culture, You've got arson, you've got. 973 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 2: Crocodiles, multiple con men trying to join with the government 974 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: to turn their their their best friends into enemies and 975 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 2: turn them in to save themselves. Look, it's really like 976 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 2: a plot of five great movies put into an actual 977 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: real life documentary. 978 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: You don't understand the depths of white trash kingdom, like species, genus, fila, 979 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. You just don't understand how 980 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: much there is and diversity there is until you see 981 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: something like this where a guy can just bang two 982 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: straight dudes because he offered them meth and tigers and 983 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: one has teeth and one kind of doesn't. And then 984 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: he's got this business rival, and then he's feeding them 985 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: expired Walmart food and then one of the people got 986 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: kind of eaten sort of. And then there's this other 987 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: woman who he wants to kill, who, by the way, 988 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 1: may or may not have killed her ex husband who 989 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: was wealthy, and then she took his wealth and then 990 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: the family hates or it's how about the. 991 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 2: Dude on the jet ski? How about the strip club over. 992 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 3: The fat dude on the jet ski? 993 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: The dude who looked like a thumb, that guy and why. 994 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 2: It's just getting together with Jeff Lowe wearing his affliction lumberjackshirt. Luke, 995 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 2: why is that man getting woman after woman and hiring 996 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 2: hot Nanny's what is happening in this world? Dude, Doc 997 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: Ambler sleeping with half of North Carolina, Luke, Dude. 998 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: If you go and look at the primary results from 999 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: the governorship that he was running for after by the way, 1000 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: he ran for president of the United States, not being 1001 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: Joe exotic, he got into the bit of the teens 1002 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: for the party he was running and do there was 1003 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: like a lot of people who voted for this guy. 1004 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: This is one of the most insane Bill Dun's Roman 1005 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: Out of your Mind White Trash Kingdom stories. You couldn't 1006 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: possibly Brian true or false. You couldn't possibly have someone 1007 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: write a fiction story bring it to you and you'd 1008 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: be like, that's plausible. 1009 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 3: You'd have to see it to believe it. 1010 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 2: We're seeing the follow ups Carole Baskin and her husband, 1011 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 2: who in some ways are presented as like the moral 1012 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 2: people in this yet throughout the movie you're like, oh 1013 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 2: my god, they're they're they're worse than the actual worst people. 1014 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 2: They're refuting a lot of that, blaming it on the 1015 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 2: way it was shot and presented in filmed, and I 1016 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: don't doubt that a lot of that's true. I also 1017 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 2: don't doubt that Carole Baskin's got a lot of skeletons 1018 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 2: back in that clauset. Look, it's just incredible quickly, and 1019 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 2: I know you have another job. You want me to 1020 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: respect that, But it's a ward season. Who's the MVP 1021 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 2: of the stock. It's gotta be Joe Exotic? 1022 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: Oh yes, it had uh you know what, Yes, it 1023 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: has to be by virtue of how he is the 1024 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: connectivity to Doc Antler, to Carol Baskin, to the meth dudes, 1025 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: to the people on the Walmart truck, to he is. 1026 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: He is the center of the constellation, but the supporting 1027 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: cast of characters, they're each kind of one note. Where 1028 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: one guy, how is the dude who is most responsible? 1029 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: The guy with no legs and like clowns on his 1030 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: prosthetics who just happened to now live in the trailer 1031 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: fixing cars? 1032 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 2: Who is the most in a sea full of sewage 1033 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 2: and sharks and tigers dead tigers? Who is the most 1034 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 2: morally sound person? It's gotta be the guy with no legs, right. 1035 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 3: The guy? 1036 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: The guy with no legs kind of was clear eyed 1037 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: about everything that was happening. I think he tried to 1038 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 1: make a genuine effort to not break the rules, to 1039 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,760 Speaker 1: work hard, even if it wasn't making a lot of money. 1040 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: He just tried to do right by the animals as well, which, 1041 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: as we know, towards the end, it didn't really happen 1042 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: all that much. So I actually thought he was pretty great. 1043 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: But everybody else and then the lady who got eaten, 1044 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 1: she seemed like a nice lady, but she also got eaten. 1045 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 2: So you know, now who is the most morally reprehensible 1046 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 2: in the whole film loose all the thumb on the 1047 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 2: jets flow Jeff Low. 1048 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: Bro Jeff Jeff Loow is bad, but Jeff Jefflow got 1049 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: into more possibilities of bad by virtue of his wealth. 1050 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 3: The thumb on the jet ski was. 1051 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: A snake dude. He would turn on anyone just for retribute. 1052 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: She was like, I might feel a little bit bad 1053 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: that someone went to jail, but uh, what are you 1054 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: gonna do? 1055 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 3: Pass me the Eclaire. 1056 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 2: According to you, Luke, most of our mma brethren around 1057 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 2: that jet ski with him. But quickly, I want to 1058 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 2: say this, it's been amazing because when you watch it, 1059 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 2: you think of this as that these are characters, These 1060 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 2: are actually real people. It's been amazing to see the 1061 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,439 Speaker 2: spinoff content and realize, as my colleague Jack Crosby would 1062 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 2: say at CBS Sports shout out to Yingling Beer, that 1063 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 2: all these people under our noses the whole time and 1064 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: we didn't realize it. Did you see Joe Exotic promoted 1065 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 2: wrestling and did play by play commentary? Did you see 1066 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 2: that the Undertaker just did a conservation video with Lions 1067 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 2: and it was Doc Antler who was in the pool 1068 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 2: with him. Did you see all this stuff? Show the 1069 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather pick? Floyd, what are you doing? Why are 1070 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 2: you hanging out with Doc Anler? No? 1071 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 3: He did? 1072 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 2: I mean Joe show me the Britney Spears pick. Remember 1073 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 2: that VMA. 1074 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 1: Performed me Jay blow it up so I can see 1075 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: it better. 1076 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 3: Are you kidding. 1077 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 2: Antler right there back in like oh aught two? 1078 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: You mean you mean sorry? You mean bogavon Doc Candler. 1079 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 2: Yes, by the way, he exposed a lot of women 1080 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 2: to bad things, including his nine wives to what he's 1081 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 2: got down below. And also did you see the look 1082 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 2: at Carol Baskins to the right of Brittany there at the. 1083 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 1: Do you think Bogavon Doc Antler's pubes are like died 1084 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: like Tiger fer you know, like with black spots and everything. 1085 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,240 Speaker 2: So look, that's so disgusting. I wanted to basically compare 1086 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 2: us in this show to the characters. I mean, you 1087 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 2: can make the argument that I'm the Joe Exotic of 1088 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,959 Speaker 2: the of this show. I don't like that. I could 1089 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 2: certainly call you Bogavon Lord Doc Antler, Doc Antler, But 1090 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if, like, really, like Dana White, is Joe 1091 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 2: Exotic in this world sphere and your Carol Baskin fighting 1092 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 2: for good supposedly, you know, I'm Howard Baskin the I 1093 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 2: don't know. 1094 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what ty all, you cool cats and kittens, 1095 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: It's another day on Morning Combat. 1096 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 2: Who's Jay in this Morning Combat Tiger King story? 1097 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: Here? 1098 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 2: Is he jas Tavis Maldonado? Is he rip? What's going 1099 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 2: on here? 1100 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: Jay is definitely the dude with the tap out tattoo 1101 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: who bangs other dudes from Beth and Tigers. 1102 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1103 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has more tattoos with the name Joe on 1104 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 2: it than he has teeth, that is for sure. 1105 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: Anyways, if you've not seen it, I really just don't 1106 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: know what you're doing with your life, and I'm one 1107 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: of these people. By the way, last thing on this, 1108 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: you know you don't like to see animals get abused, 1109 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: but I try to tell people there is animal abuse 1110 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,280 Speaker 1: in this. To be clear, there's cuppetting, there's animal selling, 1111 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,439 Speaker 1: there's uh, you don't see it, of course, but there's 1112 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: intimations of animal euthanasia and blah blah blah. But it's 1113 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 1: not like you see animals getting beaten. And here's my point. 1114 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: You gotta see this for what it is to understand. 1115 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 1: There are literally more tigers in captivity in situations like 1116 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: this than in the freaking wild. So you might as 1117 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: well know what the ecosystem looks like for a lack 1118 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: of a better description, and I got news for you. 1119 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: It's it's Joe exotic. That's what it looks like. It's 1120 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: a redneck with a blonde mullet with brown on the side. 1121 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 3: By the way. 1122 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: By the way, last thing on this, there's no way 1123 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: he's singing in those country videos, right not. 1124 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 2: They found that out afterwards. Look, if we could get 1125 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 2: one person I just saw, David Spade did an interview 1126 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 2: on his podcast with the one Armed Lady, who, by 1127 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 2: the way, identifies himself as a man, so I want 1128 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 2: to respect that. But if we could get one guest 1129 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 2: on this show, who are you picking? Who are you picking? 1130 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: Who you gotta get someone who's gonna share the details. 1131 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: I'm got the guy with no legs. He seemed to 1132 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: be pretty clear out about the whole thing. 1133 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 2: What do you he heared his soul. I think we've 1134 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 2: heard it all from what he has to offer. 1135 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,359 Speaker 1: So what Let me guess you want the mafia guy 1136 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: from Florida. 1137 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of do. I certainly want. I have 1138 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 2: questions for Bogavin. I don't think he would appear on 1139 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 2: here to answer them. How about that real weird dude, 1140 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 2: the Handler who who has the big stuffed animal tiger 1141 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 2: on his bed and lives in the trailer. There's a 1142 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 2: lot I don't know. All right, if you're listening, if 1143 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 2: you're watching Tiger Kingdom, come to Morning Combat. Okay, we 1144 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 2: got there. There's plenty of room for you here, all right, 1145 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 2: Sit on Luke's lap. We can make this happen. 1146 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: And and Doc Handler's always looking for a wife for 1147 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: our female viewers, if that's the thing you're interested in. 1148 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: All right, With that in mind, it's time now for 1149 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: DMS with Donks Brian Campbell kind of get a word 1150 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: from the listeners. 1151 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 3: All right, very good? 1152 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 1: Okay, As we do it every Sunday, we go to 1153 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,399 Speaker 1: our Instagram page at Morning Combat on Instagram, we put 1154 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: up a post. Look at the comments. We pick the 1155 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: best there is. Okay, Brian, first one's up from dB 1156 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 1: Scott Music. 1157 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 3: This is for you. 1158 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: How much farther can the UFC sink? He writes, if 1159 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: they let Cowboy fight at UFC two forty nine, why 1160 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: am I not surprised this could actually happen? 1161 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 3: Have you heard any rumors about Cowboy? 1162 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 2: I have not, But that's a great question on how 1163 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 2: how shameless can we get here? I don't know if 1164 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 2: you've been watching Luke, but Tito Ortiz, UFC Hall of 1165 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: Famer has been posting NonStop pro conspiracy theory, extreme right 1166 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 2: wing videos about the whole coronavirus and look like again, 1167 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,760 Speaker 2: I'll hear both sides. I want to hear both sides 1168 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 2: and find my opinion in the middle. I'm wondering if 1169 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 2: he's just petitioning to get a fight in the UFC 1170 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 2: right now, knowing that that's Dana White's politics and that 1171 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 2: most fighters will be afraid to get involved in this. 1172 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 2: Are we gonna see Tito forrest three or sometime? What's come? 1173 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 2: What's what's our future looking like? 1174 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 3: Here? Yeah? 1175 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: My favorite yesterday was like, you know who's defending calling 1176 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: at the China virus. He's like, that's just where viruses 1177 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 1: get come when wherever they come from, they get named 1178 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: like all of a sudden the immunologist Teta or it's easier, 1179 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: it's like, really Tito, he goes and that's why they 1180 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,919 Speaker 1: called it the Spanish flu. Little known fact Spanish flu 1181 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: didn't start in Spain. So sorry, Tino. I don't want 1182 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 1: to hear both sides. You can you can miss me 1183 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: with that shit. I've not heard anything about Cowboy, so 1184 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: I won't comment on that. All right, This comes to 1185 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: us from Jack c McGinn. Brian, which UFC fighter do 1186 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 1: you think loses the most career wise from the pandemic? 1187 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: He says, I would argue either Rays or DC. I 1188 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: did see DC said that if this goes on too 1189 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 1: long and he can't get a fight, I think by 1190 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 1: the fall he's just gonna have to call it quits. 1191 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 1: I am legitimately worried about that. Also, I point out 1192 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, Tyron Woodley's gonna be thirty eight soon, and 1193 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 1: for somebody in that division, man, that's a little bit 1194 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,280 Speaker 1: on the older side of things. 1195 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 3: Even as good of an athlete as he is. 1196 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 2: All Right, dom Reys loses the immediacy of his instant 1197 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 2: sort of star turn with his performance against John and 1198 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 2: the possibility of an instant rematch. But look, John's outside 1199 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 2: the ring cage stuff needs to be addressed. See if 1200 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 2: he retires because of this, certainly, Look Tony Ferguson's a 1201 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 2: giant answer here if he takes an in between fight 1202 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,919 Speaker 2: just to you know whatever, and loses it or even 1203 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,919 Speaker 2: wins it, but you know, it gets a little bit older, 1204 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 2: it takes on damage. There's really it makes no sense 1205 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 2: when he's gone this far to wait in line for 1206 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 2: that title shot. Outside of that, I mean, who else 1207 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 2: is jumping out at you, Luke as sort of like 1208 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,720 Speaker 2: this stunts their shot at really becoming something. 1209 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,240 Speaker 1: I would have said something in the bans and weight division, 1210 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,799 Speaker 1: but what I don't even know if you have seen 1211 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: two fifty is gonna happen. It might kill off the 1212 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: Aldo fight if things drag on long enough into that 1213 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: early May. So that's not exactly what the person's asking. 1214 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 1: But I'm saying the most delta, the most change. Yeah, 1215 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: but DC's the one I've got my eye on. Man, 1216 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: it'd be a real shame if he couldn't get this 1217 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 1: done because Stipe had the eye injury and then they 1218 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 1: were trying to work it out and then things just 1219 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: got pushed and then by the way, I wonder about 1220 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: Jorge mass of it all too. You know, there was 1221 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of concerns I think of overexposure towards 1222 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,879 Speaker 1: the end there when McGregor came back. But now it's 1223 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a situation where I don't think he's listen 1224 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 1: to me. It isn't popular, He's not gonna go away. 1225 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 1: But in terms of you know, getting that title shot 1226 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: for International Fight Week and riding it high, some some 1227 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: of that I think could be affected as. 1228 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 2: Well, certainly, Luke if this last, if UFC doesn't go 1229 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 2: forward with two forty nine and this lockdown on live fights, oh, 1230 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 2: you know, empty arena or not last until the summer, 1231 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 2: let's say, when we finally have fights. We've talked about 1232 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 2: this before. The idea that they could be jam packed 1233 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 2: and loaded is certainly giant, but just the idea that 1234 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 2: UFC panics and takes two giant stars and stuffs them 1235 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 2: together and gives us a Jorge Connor just for the 1236 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 2: sake of they're both here. Let's do this. This could 1237 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 2: be wild what we end up seeing. 1238 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to this next one. And this is a 1239 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: great question, and I think the answer is yes. From 1240 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: David Sandin. Was Brian one of the first COVID nineteen 1241 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: survivors in the USA? Wasn't he in the hospital with 1242 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: pneumonia like symptoms in January? If I recall, Brian, do 1243 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 1: you think you had the coronavirus? 1244 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: I do disclosure here. I was in Vegas December fifteenth 1245 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 2: weekend for UFC. Luke, you and I were in Brooklyn 1246 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 2: for a long weekend for showtime around Christmas. Right we 1247 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 2: did that famous beer episode our year end Awesome s 1248 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 2: Fest December thirty first, was it, you know? December thirty. 1249 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 2: The next day I went to the doctor with extreme 1250 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 2: shortness of breath, was admitted to the er. Was in 1251 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 2: the hospital diagnosed in the end with pneumonia, which seemed 1252 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 2: like a victory because it wasn't the pulmonary embolism they 1253 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 2: may have thought. But Luke follow up over the next 1254 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 2: few weeks, to be about two weeks to get healthy. 1255 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 2: My follow up visits to the doctor. My physician tried 1256 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 2: every test under the sun. He never believed the pneumonia 1257 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 2: diagnosis from the er. It just didn't make sense to him. 1258 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 2: Had my heart tested, had literally everything tested, and it 1259 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 2: was no answer. It's still a mystery. Yeah, this kind 1260 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 2: of makes a lot of sense that I had at Luke. 1261 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 2: Luckily you and I kept the tips apart, you know, 1262 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 2: adding a joke into something very serious. But yeah, man, 1263 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 2: for my family, my neighbors, my friends, my colleagues. Uh, Jay, 1264 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm glad that I didn't spread this thing on if 1265 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 2: I did have it, it was a dark two weeks. 1266 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 3: Bro. 1267 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 2: It was a rough time. I mean, just standing up, 1268 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 2: I couldn't breathe. It was a scary time being a guy, 1269 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 2: you know, forty one, decent health. It was a very 1270 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:18,479 Speaker 2: scary time. 1271 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'll say this as well, I'd 1272 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: read over the weekend that they're now some people who 1273 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 1: have heart conditions or even not even necessarily, but they're 1274 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: getting into cardiac arrest. They go to the hospital and 1275 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: it turns out they've got COVID nineteen. Doctors are now 1276 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: beginning to wonder is there a connection between heart problems 1277 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: potentially in certain people, or you know, the manifestation of 1278 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: heart problems, like they didn't have it before, but now 1279 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: they do by virtue of what COVID nineteen could be 1280 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 1: doing to them. You could have been one of those 1281 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 1: as well, because you didn't exactly have a running nose. 1282 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: You didn't exactly have you know, the typical i'm under 1283 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: the weather kind of symptoms. You had a bunch of 1284 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: weird ones you didn't see. We just didn't know it 1285 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 1: at the time. I don't know what you had, but 1286 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: if I had to bet, I think you did. 1287 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 2: Flew over Christmas the week before. So it's kind of 1288 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 2: all coming together, Luke, all. 1289 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Right, So we go now to Sugar Mill Underscore E juice. 1290 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Is there a market for MMA fighters fighting each other 1291 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: under boxing rules? 1292 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 3: I e. 1293 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Connor versus Jorge So, for example, Mita Morris used to 1294 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 1: do a little bit with this right where they would 1295 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: have Rory McDonald to go up against J. T. Torrez, 1296 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: or they would have you know, you've seen a million 1297 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: of them. He's talking about something a little bit different, 1298 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: which is fighter versus fighter just. 1299 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 3: Not in that. 1300 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: I would say, if somebody is popular enough, Brian Campbell, 1301 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: you can basically get them to do anything. If if 1302 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Connor McGregor opened up a YouTube channel and then just 1303 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 1: streamed even on Twitch, Let's say, here's me folding the laundry, 1304 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 1: here's me playing video games, here's me mowing the yard. 1305 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 3: People would watch. 1306 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: Would they watch a Conversus Jorge boxing match? Yes, I 1307 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: suppose that they would, but it would never really do 1308 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: in all likelihood what Conversus Jorge would do in MMA, 1309 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 1: And as good as it might be, it might be 1310 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: better than people's expectations if they have ones, because both 1311 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: of these guys can box a little bit. Of course, 1312 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: it would never be what it is inside MMA. So 1313 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: the answer is yes, sort of but not. 1314 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 2: Could be a market for something in the middle. Look, 1315 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 2: I'd pay three ninety nine for a pay per view 1316 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 2: of watching Connor drink whiskey while over Skype Jorges drinking 1317 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 2: his stuff they caught John Jones with and just arguing 1318 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 2: and talking trash and cracking jokes. I'd also pay upwards 1319 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 2: of maybe twelve ninety nine to watch them play one 1320 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 2: on one basketball and see some trash talk in there. 1321 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, But here's the thing. 1322 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 1: It's like, if you're Connor versus Jorge, how much money 1323 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: could you make in an MMA fight A lot? How 1324 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: much money would you make in a boxing fight Probably 1325 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: a little bit less. So then why do it so 1326 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 1: you could film sparring sessions if they happened. I still 1327 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: think I Connor Connor versus Paulie is I mean, they 1328 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: put that out there, that's gonna be bigger than the 1329 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Pamela Anderson versus Tommy Lee's sex tape for crying out loud. 1330 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: That thing would do gangbusters. So there's things like that that. 1331 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 2: Could happen with packing heat, Luke, he could. 1332 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Steer, he could steer the boat with that hog I was, 1333 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: I was saluting that man. 1334 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 3: But the point being is, you know. 1335 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 2: There's need one drumstick, Luke, Let's be honest, double bass. 1336 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 1: Still the idea is he you're giving up some money 1337 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: to do something a little bit different. Whereas with the 1338 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: menamorous jiu jitsu stuff, that was always the side piece 1339 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: that was not the marriage. 1340 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 2: But by the way, Connor would get smoked one on 1341 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 2: one and hoops against Jorge. Just so you know, just 1342 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 2: so you understand. 1343 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 3: That, Luke, probably probably all right. 1344 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 1: Last, but not least, Brian Campbell from bran Tendo sixty four. 1345 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 1: What is your favorite horror movie of all time? 1346 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 2: I am an old school Halloween one fan. It's certainly 1347 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 2: the best in so many ways, so many bare bones, 1348 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 2: basic ways. I have respected the genre for a long time. 1349 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 2: I don't go very deep in it because I don't 1350 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,479 Speaker 2: I don't like I don't like too much of it, Luke. 1351 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 2: But look, I have my favorite horror movie of all time, 1352 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 2: Saw One. I stand by it as being brilliant. We've 1353 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 2: said it before on here when I compared it to 1354 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 2: other things, Luke, I just think that was a hell 1355 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 2: of a great story told with the twists and turns, 1356 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,919 Speaker 2: enough of the violence, but not too much to get 1357 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 2: me wanting to turn away. The sequels are deplorable, but 1358 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 2: I stand by Saw One. Maybe that makes me a 1359 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 2: surface level Halloween or a horror guy. I'm sure you 1360 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 2: can pull out some Kurosawa classic in Japanese subtitles while 1361 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 2: they're speaking Chinese. But that's where I stand. Okay, I look, 1362 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm deep on a lot of topics, Luke. Okay, Okay, 1363 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 2: war movies, I'm getting there. 1364 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: You're you are absolutely getting there. I would say, I'm 1365 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: not in horror movies. 1366 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 2: I'm a little more surface level. You wanna talk guitarists, Luke, 1367 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 2: you wanna, you wanna, I'll be with you all day, all. 1368 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Right, all right, Well, I admit I'm surface level on 1369 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: this too. I'm not much of a horror fan. So 1370 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: I liked Saw just fine. I don't know if it's 1371 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: that good. I remember Hitchcock's Birds was pretty good. When 1372 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 1: I was a kid. I would say this, and you're 1373 01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: gonna say this is not a horror movie. But hear 1374 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 1: me out for just a second, if I may, Friends Romans, Countryman, 1375 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 1: Limiar Ears. There is a site YouTube channel, one of 1376 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 1: my favorites called red Letter Media. They've got a gazillion 1377 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 1: subscribers and they do this thing called review where they 1378 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 1: go back and they watch old movies and they kind 1379 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 1: of react to them. Well, one of those movies they 1380 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 1: reacted to was Predator Arms Schwarzenegger Carl Weather's in the 1381 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: Whole Back Classic, by the way, airs on AMC. That's 1382 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: how I got my wife to watch it. I'm like, 1383 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 1: if it airs on AMC, it's gotta be good. But 1384 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 1: one of the guys on the channel made a great point. 1385 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 1: He's like, yes, it's an action movie. It's like a 1386 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 1: military movie to a degree. He goes, but really it's 1387 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: a slasher flick because what you see is people getting 1388 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: picked off one by one with this mysterious creature that 1389 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 1: nobody knows. There's this final confrontation. It's shot in a 1390 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: way where it's just like a horror movie. So I 1391 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 1: know that that doesn't fill the typical horror movie genre answer, 1392 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 1: But because of his explanation, I'm gonna weasel my way 1393 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 1: in there, like better call soft from AMC, and I'm 1394 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 1: gonna say Predator is my favorite horror movie. 1395 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 2: Wow. All right, shout out to Predator two and Danny Glover. 1396 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 2: What a disappointment that was, Luke. I built a whole 1397 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 2: sleepover party in like sixth grade around Predator two coming 1398 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 2: on VHS. 1399 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 3: What a that movie sucked? Ass? All right? But you 1400 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 3: know it doesn't. 1401 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Is this next segment, This is the time we look 1402 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 1: at dongs and watch people falling down. Brian Campbell take 1403 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 1: it away, sir, Yeah, hit us. 1404 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 2: We hit us with the horns here money. 1405 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 1: By the way, they should give you better animation for that. 1406 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: It's literally just someone going and then the graphics they do. 1407 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 2: The poop element of it. But I get it. So 1408 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 2: we scour the globe. If you're new to this, the good, 1409 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly, from combat sports and beyond, and 1410 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 2: believe me, we're going beyond. But we start here. Luke 1411 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 2: undiagon undisclosed location of an MMA fight over the past month. 1412 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 2: You want to see this ax kick from health. 1413 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 3: Talk about us. 1414 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 2: I don't if you have a foot fetish. 1415 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Luke, dude, that is bri what's up 1416 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 1: with those gloves? This is kickboxing in a in a cage. 1417 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right, is that it? That's Russia. That's 1418 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 2: gotta be Russia. 1419 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, someway, they're in a hurry. 1420 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 2: Luke, Wow, Wow, Hey, lu got all the year this is. 1421 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 2: But let's move on to LFA sixty three. There's a 1422 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,480 Speaker 2: fellow named Derek Krantz about to go through TSA because 1423 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 2: he's gonna fold his opponent in half. 1424 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 3: Here up, that's the old crow cop Gonzaga. 1425 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 1: I remember that when he fell, he cork screwed his 1426 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 1: ankle and then like Herbdan picked it up and it 1427 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 1: unwound like a toy. 1428 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 2: It's kind of like, uh, machetah sugar. Rashad too as well. 1429 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 2: That ending. 1430 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 1: Oh poor Rashad with the face that got memed out forever. 1431 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look at this uppercut nicely done here. Do 1432 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 2: you watch LFA, Luke? 1433 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: I do oh and he bounced Jesus. 1434 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 2: Oh God, the good shout out to the rats will 1435 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 2: save his life there, but that look at I'm sorry, 1436 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 2: kind sir, but you have been said to hell. All right, Luke, 1437 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 2: let's roll it on from here. Hey, we gotta throw 1438 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 2: back Ko, there's no new fights. Caleb Plant the super 1439 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 2: middleweight titles. Put this video up of his first televised 1440 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 2: bout when he was five and zero on ESPN's Friday 1441 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 2: Night Fights. Where's the referee? Luke, he just killed the man. 1442 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,920 Speaker 1: Watch this, dude, he turns away. 1443 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 3: Look at this. 1444 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 1: That's that's international sign for I don't want anymore. 1445 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,440 Speaker 2: Oh my God, protect yourself at all times. You know 1446 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 2: what it looked like. Do you remember Ray Mercer Tommy 1447 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 2: Morrison when they let Morrison hang on the ropes and 1448 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 2: Ray got another sixteen shots in. 1449 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna say it also kind of reminded me, 1450 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 1: not the entire thing, but the ending sequence there when 1451 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 1: David Tua Planted, John Ruiz where they're on the way 1452 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 1: down and you're still hitting them, but nothing will top 1453 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 1: Phil Baroni Dave Minay where they don't go down because 1454 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 1: they're being levitated by the punches. 1455 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 3: That is still the all time best. Oh wow. 1456 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 2: Shout out to SWEETHNDS there with the pink gloves, Caleb Plant. 1457 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 2: Let's move on here, Luke, nobody's gone yet. Get ready 1458 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 2: for this, Luke, Oh my god, I don't know what's 1459 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 2: going on here, but nutshots once again delivers for us 1460 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 2: on Instagram. Luke, wait a second. 1461 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: Was the idea that he would stop just short chill? 1462 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: Or was the idea that I'm gonna I'm gonna slow 1463 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 1: down but still run into you. 1464 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 2: This is one of those where if it's fake and 1465 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 2: it's staged, I'm okay with that because that hurts. Somebody 1466 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 2: just took it right to the pills, Luke. 1467 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Bro you gotta hit in the balls with a motorcycle? 1468 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 1: Who says something like that? 1469 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,559 Speaker 2: God rolling on here, Luke, you love metal concerts? How 1470 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 2: about a concert fail? Check out this lead singer here 1471 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 2: of this Uh wanna be cannibal corpse abortion rock? 1472 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 3: Oh? 1473 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 2: Take that? Take that to the face. 1474 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,679 Speaker 1: Brother, You know what the problem is with that dude's attire. 1475 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,640 Speaker 1: It just doesn't have enough pockets. Look watch him, No 1476 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 1: sell this though, It's like, dude, this guy is This 1477 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 1: guy is wearing a tackle box and just hasn't rethought 1478 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 1: his life yet enough yet. 1479 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 2: Now, Luke, give me a shout out here? Are they 1480 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,799 Speaker 2: playing new Metal? Are they playing thrash? Are we doing? Uh? 1481 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,480 Speaker 2: Is this the death vein? Is this? 1482 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 3: This? Is this? This? 1483 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 1: Look at the guy with the shorts that are kind 1484 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,200 Speaker 1: of like pants that had shrunk in the dryer. 1485 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 3: And then this guy. 1486 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess this is a little bit death chorush, 1487 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 1: which is not quite death metal, but something kind of similar. 1488 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 1: Plus you got a single base as opposed to a 1489 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: double so I'm gonna go death core. 1490 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 2: I respect the deep dive that you pulled right there 1491 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,599 Speaker 2: on that. Hey, let's move on. Do you ever see 1492 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 2: the sequel to Thelma and Louise? Luke, check this out? 1493 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 2: Is this is this Florida a bicycle built for two? 1494 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:34,000 Speaker 2: Look block or charge Rex Chapman. Yes, that is that'll 1495 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 2: ruin your cruise. You know you came out. 1496 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: You know you always wonder when you rent one of 1497 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,600 Speaker 1: these things. It's like, why are the helmets mandatory? 1498 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 3: Bro? 1499 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a fender bend her bend her. I 1500 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 2: just met her. Look at that one. Oh my god. 1501 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,120 Speaker 2: Wow A right, remember that time you made fun of 1502 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 2: Showtimes Phil Simms, because you know he popped out about 1503 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,800 Speaker 2: thirty pull ups. Right, this guy's pull up for him 1504 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,879 Speaker 2: right here, and by the way, shout out to Phil Simms, 1505 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 2: hold my beer, Luke. 1506 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 1: Do you have one of those things, one of those 1507 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 1: pull up bars in the doorjam? 1508 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 2: No, I don't. 1509 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 1: I don't so I have one of those. But the 1510 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 1: way it works, I mean, this dude's on the wrong 1511 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: side of it. 1512 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 2: You gotta be on the other ankle weights this. 1513 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,720 Speaker 1: No, no, the dude is facing it this way. He's 1514 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 1: got to turn all the way around. You gotta be 1515 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 1: on the other side because it sits on the top 1516 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 1: of the other end of the door jam. He's on 1517 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: the wrong end of it, so of course when he 1518 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 1: goes up, it comes right off. 1519 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 3: So fucking idiot. 1520 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 2: I did that same thing in Jeff Hurd's basement in 1521 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 2: about nineteen ninety eight when I was high. I grabbed 1522 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 2: onto something and fell on my back. Jeff Bogus, I 1523 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 2: know you're watching this right now and you're laughing and 1524 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 2: spitting up right now. But uh yeah, I've done this 1525 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,600 Speaker 2: type of fall. Luke, that'll doctor said, I need to 1526 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 2: backy out of me. You know what I'm saying? Wow, 1527 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 2: that is that's a flat back bump. 1528 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 1: It looked like it looks like one. Archie Letta shouts 1529 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 1: to the Spaniards. 1530 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that does Hey, look you love soccer. 1531 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 2: Edmund Tarverdian sent this in not enough head movement. Watch 1532 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 2: this lady in the crowd. Oh fuck, no, oh god, 1533 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 2: there's your souvenir. It's called the concussion. Luke, take that 1534 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 2: home with you. What do you know is that Holly Holm? 1535 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 2: Is this a payback right here? 1536 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 3: Bro? 1537 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 1: You should have been like you gotta you should have 1538 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,680 Speaker 1: been like you gotta lean into it. 1539 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,919 Speaker 3: She just kind of takes it. It's like it's like padwork. 1540 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 1: You don't just get hit, You gotta you gotta pop 1541 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 1: the punch as it comes into you. 1542 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. Look at Shout 1543 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 2: out to that old guy for for checking in on her. 1544 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,240 Speaker 1: That's Billy Joe Saunders's favorite video thus far. 1545 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, uh you have Let's go out to some 1546 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,720 Speaker 2: Uh so, what are you playing? Uh? Grab ass in 1547 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 2: the park with your friends here? Luke? 1548 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 3: Uh? 1549 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:36,599 Speaker 2: This here? 1550 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 3: Is this? 1551 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: The is this the stupid ass combat jiu jitsu the 1552 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 1: Eddie Bravo loves. 1553 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I kinda, I'm kind of. I'm 1554 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,080 Speaker 2: kind of You want to go camping with me? 1555 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 3: Luke? 1556 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 2: I got I got a pretty big ten you like. 1557 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: This, Luke, no Boga von doc Antler. I do not 1558 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 1: wish to go camping with you and your harem. Also, 1559 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 1: this just shows you how stupid this record. I mean, 1560 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 1: I like Eddie Bravo and the EBI was great, but 1561 01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 1: we turned into combat jiu jitsu where you can slap. 1562 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 1: It's like pang phraise with jiu jitsu? Did I'm super 1563 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 1: out on that? 1564 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 2: Did you hear the joke about camping sex, Luke? 1565 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,040 Speaker 1: This is a boy Scott pedophile joke. You can save it. 1566 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 2: It's intense. It's intense, Luke, I don't know if you 1567 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,680 Speaker 2: if you were able to, yeah, that shout out to 1568 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 2: my neighbor for that dad joke. All right, Hey, we're 1569 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 2: gonna move on here, Luke. People are posting workout videos 1570 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 2: on how you can stay fit. This is Eric Bugenhagen 1571 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 2: of WW. He's an NXT wrestler. He does sort of 1572 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 2: an air guitar gimmick. He put out this video on 1573 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 2: how during the coronavirus and I think we're not cute 1574 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 2: up to where we need to be, but maybe we 1575 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,640 Speaker 2: can wait it out here. How you can use balloons, 1576 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,439 Speaker 2: Luke with water balloons to actually get a decent workout here. 1577 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 2: So let's see Boogenhagen sort of set this up. And Luke, 1578 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:50,680 Speaker 2: you're you're. 1579 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 3: You are a fucking idiot. 1580 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,599 Speaker 2: Look what I mean? Look you got first, you got 1581 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 2: a grip at Luke? 1582 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,759 Speaker 3: What exercise? Could he possibly be doing? 1583 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 2: The rhythm method? I think, think Luke, all right, now 1584 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 2: we got a couple of them. 1585 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,559 Speaker 3: Dude, does your family know what you do on this show? 1586 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 2: Look at the unit on that guy. Yeah, wow, wow, 1587 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 2: see curls there it is Luke. You get you? Oh 1588 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,680 Speaker 2: my god. Oh he might have shut he might have 1589 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 2: shut his load right there, Luke, that's you. 1590 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 1: After watching the Chef Chanko sisters on Instagram. 1591 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 2: Luke, we always well that is true. By the way, 1592 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 2: we always try to give you some animal on human 1593 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 2: violence here. So how about this newscast in a farm 1594 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,479 Speaker 2: Look at Paige Van's ant look alike right there. 1595 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: Not gonna end well, Bro, that's like Lord of the. 1596 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 3: She just gets run over here. 1597 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that one right in the front is he's 1598 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 2: going for third base? I don't you know? Wow, it's 1599 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 2: not a base for sliding. Yeah, wow, I don't. Maybe 1600 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 2: we should move on before we get death threats to 1601 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 2: Luke or we or we get pulled out of the 1602 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:53,679 Speaker 2: Canelo fight. 1603 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:54,679 Speaker 3: We will be canceled. 1604 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, we want to close on this. Somebody 1605 01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,559 Speaker 2: sent me this twice on my DMS. These are tip 1606 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,519 Speaker 2: to tip doppel gangers. I think that's you on the left, Luke, 1607 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 2: and me on the right. Shout out to these guys. 1608 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:05,960 Speaker 2: Isn't that a. 1609 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,840 Speaker 1: Famous It's actually that's actually pretty fair. I'd say, yeah, 1610 01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 1: look at that. Not enough gray and your smiles a 1611 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:12,760 Speaker 1: little bit about the same. 1612 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 3: But otherwise, you know. 1613 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 2: That dude with the marshmallow, isn't that some famous DJ 1614 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:17,440 Speaker 2: or something? Marshmallow? 1615 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be Oh, there's like dead mouse. 1616 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 3: Is that him? 1617 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't really speak that language. I 1618 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 2: don't really hang out at Hakasan too often Luke after 1619 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,719 Speaker 2: the fights, so I'm not ready to pay two hundred 1620 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 2: dollars to watch some some guys spin records. All right, 1621 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 2: that's how you get down. If that's how you've met 1622 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 2: your wife in Columbia, I support you, Luke. 1623 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 1: You think I listened to that, I well, I don't know. 1624 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,720 Speaker 2: But speaking of tip to tip, Luke, how about this 1625 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 2: excerpt from our photo shoot. Look at this, Luke, Look 1626 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 2: at these guys hanging out here. 1627 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 1: You and I are two of the wives. Look at us, 1628 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,880 Speaker 1: the two wives of Joe Exotic. Here are Joe Exotic's 1629 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,559 Speaker 1: two husbands hanging out right here. 1630 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,040 Speaker 2: That was the last time we touched pre Corona, Luke, 1631 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,599 Speaker 2: this was the This is you and I getting ready. 1632 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 1: All we need is the third So I guess Jay 1633 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:04,919 Speaker 1: is Joe Exotic? 1634 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 2: Oh no, that means am I toothless John and your Yeah. 1635 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,200 Speaker 3: Because I would be Travis. I would be Travis. 1636 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 1: I'd be the one the sad story and then he 1637 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,680 Speaker 1: would be the happy guy with the property of of 1638 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,879 Speaker 1: of Jay written right above your. 1639 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 2: By the way, that was of all the I said 1640 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 2: this on our livestream on Saturday, of all the swerves 1641 01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 2: and reveals, the reveal that poor Joe Dirt Exotics, all 1642 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:34,080 Speaker 2: of his husbands never actually liked the work they put 1643 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 2: in to consummate it, and they only did it for 1644 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 2: his meth and his money and his tigers. That's depressing, Luke. 1645 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 2: I know he's in a jail cell now. 1646 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you ever thought about that for a second. Like, 1647 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: I've obviously done drink a lot, I've enjoyed the natural 1648 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 1: herbs of life, got hold on, hold on, I've never 1649 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 1: done anything serious beyond that, really, So it makes you wonder, 1650 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,559 Speaker 1: like how money is meth that you're willing to be Like, look, 1651 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gay, but I just it is that great 1652 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,679 Speaker 1: that I'm just gonna go bang Joe Exotic in order 1653 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 1: to get. 1654 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 2: Forget what Bob Saget said in Half Baked. 1655 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 3: You know, don't forget he. 1656 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 2: Did dirty deeds for coke. You never saw that scene with. 1657 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 3: The it's been a while. 1658 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm just pointing out that high from meth must be amazing, 1659 01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:22,719 Speaker 1: it must be grand. 1660 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure it is, Luke. I mean, are 1661 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 2: not willing to do that with you because I've seen 1662 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 2: how it ends. I've seen this documentary. All right, Luke, 1663 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 2: that's that's the ish for the week. So, uh, there 1664 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 2: you have seen that shit. 1665 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 3: Very good, Brian, very good. 1666 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 1: Time Now for odds and ends on the show, Brian Campbell, 1667 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:40,799 Speaker 1: what is your odds and ends? 1668 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Look a little bit of boxing news. Obviously all the 1669 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 2: fights are canceled and postponed. Mike Coppinger of the Athletic 1670 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 2: dot Com is reporting that Wilder Fury three, which we 1671 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 2: thought might happened in July, they're now targeting targeting October. 1672 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 2: That's really not the news here because every fight's being 1673 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 2: pushed off. It's really just the idea here, Luke, that 1674 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 2: in boxing, if one can benefit from this break, it 1675 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 2: really might be Deontay Wilder. And we've teased this topic 1676 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 2: before of how a potential third fight against Fury could 1677 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,680 Speaker 2: be different, and look, could it hurt him to take 1678 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:16,800 Speaker 2: an extended absence for mental and physical health recovery from 1679 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,840 Speaker 2: that one sided defeat. But even more, Luke, he's not 1680 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 2: going to become a boxer in six months. We know that. 1681 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:27,719 Speaker 2: But I think the counter punching style that he's used 1682 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 2: against Fury, which in two fights, save for those two rounds, right, 1683 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,240 Speaker 2: he's really been on the you know, in a one 1684 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,799 Speaker 2: sided nature. If he comes in there and just says, efet, 1685 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 2: I'm Brawlin. I'm a destroyer. I know I've got a 1686 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 2: talent deficiency against this man. So the only way to 1687 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:49,719 Speaker 2: close that is helicopter city. Luke, do you remember round 1688 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 2: one of Wilder Stevern two? I thought it was the 1689 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,360 Speaker 2: knockout of the year. Yes, steverne fat and overweight and 1690 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,600 Speaker 2: got sent to hell in that first round. But do 1691 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 2: you remember the explosive reckless I mean, I mean, you 1692 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,479 Speaker 2: know he calls himself the Bronze Bomber, that when he 1693 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 2: enters that ring, he channels generational spirits and gets it whatever. 1694 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,120 Speaker 2: Whatever you want to believe that bs or not, that 1695 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,559 Speaker 2: was a version of Wilder who was shifting and throwing 1696 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 2: just he that if he did that against Fury in 1697 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,639 Speaker 2: the third fight, I don't know if it worked, Luke, 1698 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 2: but it's probably a better strategy than what else he 1699 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 2: could do. And could you imagine the fireworks of seeing 1700 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 2: Fury have to deal with that. 1701 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,679 Speaker 1: I'll say this, They were going to do that fight 1702 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 1: in what was the original one schedule for Junior. 1703 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 2: July eighteenth was the targeted date. 1704 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure that pushing it from July versus 1705 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 1: October makes all the difference in the world, But to 1706 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,800 Speaker 1: the extent that that fight gets delayed a month two, three, four. 1707 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,599 Speaker 1: That makes Wilder's chances better, which I still think are 1708 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: not good enough to win. It was we talked about 1709 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 1: this before without doing a lot of extra work behind it. 1710 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 1: But I'll say I like his chances in October better 1711 01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 1: than I like his chances in July, and he needs 1712 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,439 Speaker 1: all the help that he can get. So probably that's 1713 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 1: a good idea for the parties involved. It makes it 1714 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: a little bit more sellable, perhaps a little bit more competitive, 1715 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 1: even if I still think that Tyson Fury is your 1716 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:12,599 Speaker 1: prohibitive favorite there. 1717 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,720 Speaker 2: But if you think there's any chance that could work, 1718 01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 2: because you have to agree Luke from breaking down the film. 1719 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 2: Wilder is a counter punching slugger, which is kind of 1720 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,799 Speaker 2: kind of rare for a guy with that little amount 1721 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 2: of technical skill. What if he became an attack or 1722 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:26,640 Speaker 2: a destroyer. 1723 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,439 Speaker 1: What if you got a box of It's the old adage. 1724 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: You got a box a brawler, you got a brawl 1725 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,639 Speaker 1: a boxer. He can't outbox Tyson Fury. He was able 1726 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,559 Speaker 1: to sort of out box Luis Ortiz, but he had 1727 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 1: to give up six and a half rounds basically to 1728 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 1: do it in the second fight. He can't really do 1729 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 1: that with Tyson Fury. He's just too good, just too 1730 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 1: far ahead, and his costume is not nearly as heavy, 1731 01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 1: and so as a consequence, I would say, look, I'm 1732 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,200 Speaker 1: not sure exactly what the right method is and how 1733 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,960 Speaker 1: you apply that brawling style, but just trying to go 1734 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,840 Speaker 1: there and tip for tap for him, you're gonna get 1735 01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:58,240 Speaker 1: chewed up. 1736 01:19:58,240 --> 01:19:59,680 Speaker 3: We saw what it already happened the last time. 1737 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 2: Now I got one more odds and ends. I'm gonna 1738 01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 2: hit you with It's about It's about Corona, d I 1739 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 2: y I look, you're you're about a week away from 1740 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,559 Speaker 2: looking like Doc Antler as it is with the with 1741 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 2: the with the assault on the side. But I gave 1742 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,640 Speaker 2: my self hair self haircut number two last night and 1743 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,960 Speaker 2: I butchered it badly. I'm gonna look real. I'm gonna 1744 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 2: turn real quick so you can see we're always opening. 1745 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:23,519 Speaker 3: This Wow dude, And I want to say that I 1746 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:24,680 Speaker 3: have no choice. 1747 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 1: That is not that is not one hundred dollars haircut. 1748 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,400 Speaker 2: I know, no, I went way too high. So my 1749 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 2: only choice now is to chase the ghost of the 1750 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 2: Great Zach Morris. In that episode, when he was banging 1751 01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,320 Speaker 2: Mindy the manager in the in the Friends Forever episode, 1752 01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,880 Speaker 2: that guy is my future. I'm really I'm willing to 1753 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,639 Speaker 2: go down that road. I'm willing to get the blonde 1754 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,400 Speaker 2: tips to Luke. I think it's time. I think it's time, and. 1755 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,920 Speaker 1: I'll say this. You know you're taking up. You're getting 1756 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,479 Speaker 1: hit with the insults for your haircut. My wife supposed 1757 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,280 Speaker 1: to cut mine tonight, so it's gonna be my turn 1758 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,559 Speaker 1: to eat the ship sandwich next week. When I look 1759 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 1: like I had my head stuck in a blender, so. 1760 01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,640 Speaker 2: I got too confident, thinking I can fade it. Luke I, 1761 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,800 Speaker 2: I I stopped using the mirror. I did it more 1762 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 2: by sound and touch. Don't do it, don't do it. 1763 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:09,599 Speaker 1: Less is more, less is more, Okay, So I'll say 1764 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 1: this for mine. You know, there's been a lot of 1765 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,519 Speaker 1: people who have reacted in the sports well with a 1766 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,639 Speaker 1: lot of generosity as it relates to the coronavirus pandemic. 1767 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,280 Speaker 1: You saw Drew Brees I think and his wife gave 1768 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,400 Speaker 1: five million dollars to local resources. I don't like the team. 1769 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 1: There are the arch nemesis of my favorite team. But 1770 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,720 Speaker 1: Barcelona's players took a seventy percent pay cut so that 1771 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the Barcelona staff would be able to 1772 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 1: get one hundred percent of their salaries. I found that 1773 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,360 Speaker 1: to be an incredible gesture. And in our own world 1774 01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: there has been one man who has been very, very 1775 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,799 Speaker 1: generous with his resources. That is Connor McGregor. Connor McGregor 1776 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,160 Speaker 1: donating about one point one million dollars worth of one 1777 01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:48,879 Speaker 1: million pounds. 1778 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure. 1779 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:55,519 Speaker 1: I think that's right worth of money to various causes 1780 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 1: for the people on the front lines there of the 1781 01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 1: attack against COVID nineteen four, healthcare responders and healthcare professionals. 1782 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,760 Speaker 1: I really truly commend Connor McGregor for that. He is 1783 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 1: the only person in MMA with vast wealth who has 1784 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,719 Speaker 1: decided to share it. And I know what some asshole 1785 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 1: is going to get out there and say, oh, one 1786 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 1: million dollars compared to his net worth, that's like me 1787 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 1: giving up a stick of bubblegum, right, except for one 1788 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,880 Speaker 1: million dollars, that's actually very impactful. It actually makes the 1789 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,559 Speaker 1: difference you giving up the cost it would be for you, whatever, 1790 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,320 Speaker 1: it's like a metro fair or the cost of a 1791 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 1: five guys burger, whatever, that doesn't have a tremendous impact 1792 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,200 Speaker 1: on people that what he did does. Now, this doesn't 1793 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:36,759 Speaker 1: mean that we forget about some of the other stuff 1794 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 1: that's happening around him. Those are all to be determined, 1795 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 1: I guess, but we should take a moment to say, 1796 01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 1: look around in MMA and look who is trying to 1797 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,479 Speaker 1: make a positive difference. He put out that video calling 1798 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:51,000 Speaker 1: to action, the Irish people, calling to action, the Irish leadership, 1799 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,280 Speaker 1: and then then put his money where his mouth was 1800 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,439 Speaker 1: and helped and donate vast resources. I truly and honestly, 1801 01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 1: I could not mean this more commends Connor McGregor for 1802 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 1: that one of the few bright spots in MMA related 1803 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 1: to people understanding what the challenge is and meeting it 1804 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 1: head on, especially when he's got some resources to give. 1805 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:10,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, Connor McGregor. 1806 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,000 Speaker 2: I agree, really puts that video of that weird lady 1807 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,600 Speaker 2: holding the cell phone with him in the bed in 1808 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,559 Speaker 2: the rare view and shout out to Amir Khan. By 1809 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,200 Speaker 2: the way, the boxer gets a lot of flack a lot, 1810 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,240 Speaker 2: but he's donated a ton of money to this effort 1811 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,640 Speaker 2: as well. A real humanitarian. Luke so has been your 1812 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:28,000 Speaker 2: Twitter feed, so keep it up, deflect the hate, stay safe, Luke, 1813 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 2: quarantine yourself. Shower. I showered today for the first time 1814 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 2: of two and a half days. Felt great, Luke. 1815 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one thing about working from home. I 1816 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,559 Speaker 1: don't shower enough. But I didn't shower today, So maybe 1817 01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 1: after the show, I'll walk the dogs and then go shower. 1818 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,880 Speaker 2: All right, Ozark season three, you're gonna be on it 1819 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 2: on Netflix. 1820 01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna go for it. I have to get going, 1821 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,040 Speaker 1: so make the pitch quickly. Why should I watch Ozark? 1822 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 1: I've got no opinion on it. Sell me on it. 1823 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 2: Great twists and turns. I haven't seen Breaking Bad, but 1824 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,280 Speaker 2: there's been comparisons to the way the story is structured. 1825 01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 2: I thought the first season was much better than the second. 1826 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,719 Speaker 2: I've heard mixed reviews on the third. But justin Bateman 1827 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,120 Speaker 2: in it. Some uh, some big time actors that you know, 1828 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,040 Speaker 2: someone that will grab you, like Julia Garner. It's it's 1829 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,479 Speaker 2: wacky and wild. It's good stuff, Luke, you're gonna like 1830 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:17,000 Speaker 2: embezzlement mafia. But the idea of all right, I don't. 1831 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,479 Speaker 1: Know's talking as if we wish to hear him. 1832 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 2: Jase Jay jumped in and says Season three is phenomenal. 1833 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 2: So if you you know you maybe hey, look, if 1834 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,240 Speaker 2: you got time, Jay has a documentary. I'm back to 1835 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 2: the future. If you're looking to fill your COVID hours 1836 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 2: at the moment. 1837 01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,320 Speaker 3: I'd rather get shot in the face with liquid aids. 1838 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,960 Speaker 3: All right. Well, Uh that's it for us. 1839 01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 1: Uh, it's I'm not don't mean that, sincerely, I'm just 1840 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,599 Speaker 1: saying things, all right. Uh, thumbs up on the video, 1841 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:51,280 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, Me and uh the channel put all the 1842 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,839 Speaker 1: social graphics up there, Jay, so we can see everything 1843 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:55,719 Speaker 1: there it is. You want to give us a follow 1844 01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:56,480 Speaker 1: on Instagram? 1845 01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,920 Speaker 3: Please? Do you want to subscribe to the channel? 1846 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,639 Speaker 1: Hit that subscribe button, hit the notification bell do everything possible. 1847 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 1: And of course, for Brian's workover at CBS, you can 1848 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 1: follow him. For mine over at sirius XM and every 1849 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,360 Speaker 1: other place, you can do that for mine. Any parting words, 1850 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:10,400 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. 1851 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 2: No, stay safe, wash your hands, wash your privates, all 1852 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 2: your hoes, keep them loyal, love it, love it, live it, 1853 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 2: love it. 1854 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 1: MK. 1855 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,519 Speaker 2: Invading your sensibilities, your ear holes, your eye holes. Luke 1856 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 2: you had any other Uh. 1857 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,360 Speaker 1: Just wash your hands, you filthy animals that's it. Stay safe, 1858 01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 1: do what the public health professionals tell us. The faster, 1859 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 1: I'll say this, the more we listen to the experts, 1860 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,040 Speaker 1: the faster we'll be back to this and you and I, Brian, 1861 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,800 Speaker 1: can get back to the studios and do what we 1862 01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:39,240 Speaker 1: love to hear. 1863 01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,360 Speaker 2: Don't drink and cut. Don't drink and cut. I've already 1864 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,519 Speaker 2: I've already showed you why. 1865 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:43,639 Speaker 3: Thank you all right. 1866 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 1: That is Brian Campbell. I am Luke Thomas. Until next time, 1867 01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching. May all of your 1868 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,000 Speaker 1: gains be loyal