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Speaker 2: Welcome to No Dunks presented by the NBA.

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Speaker 1: That's game.

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Speaker 2: I'm tas Mellis with me is the International Man of Mystery,

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Speaker 2: Lelis friend.

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Speaker 1: Ley and the man making the magic happen. It's jd. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there he is here.

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Speaker 2: We are usually this time of year it's the off season,

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Speaker 2: but there's an exhibition going on in Las Vegas. Usually

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Speaker 2: we're there, but this year we've got so many important

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Speaker 2: things to do. For instance, the guys are recording a

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Speaker 2: Fast and Furious recap of the entire movie series. There's

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Speaker 2: a Formula one show coming out produced by No Dunks

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Speaker 2: next week. We even have a show about the NBA

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Body Parts Wing. What it's all? If

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame had a wing with basketball body parts?

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Speaker 2: What would be in it? That shows coming out tomorrow Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: August seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Check that out.

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Speaker 2: It's an Apple exclusive. You gotta subscribe on Apple for that. Actually,

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Speaker 2: we have a lot of fun with that. So anyways,

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Speaker 2: we're busy, but we do want to get to Summer

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Speaker 2: League and that's why we have the athletics. Dave DeFore

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Speaker 2: joining us from the arena in Vegas. Dave, thanks for

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Speaker 2: coming on.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the only place in Vegas with consistent Wi Fi.

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Speaker 4: So I figured i'd get up here kind of early.

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Speaker 4: I mean, as you guys can see, I have the

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Speaker 4: Vegas eyes, you know, I'm I'm lending right in. And

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Speaker 4: I've actually not hung out in Vegas once. I really

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Speaker 4: haven't seen the sun for days. I just come into

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Speaker 4: the gym, hang out here all day and uh and

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Speaker 4: then leave. And yet still I look like I've been

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Speaker 4: in a casino for the last ten days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. My face, my face just looks like a Roulette wheel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking air and I heard the little

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Speaker 2: frog in your throat and that it brought me back

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Speaker 2: and you said no. I mean I asked if you

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Speaker 2: had stayed up on that. You said, no, it's just Vegas.

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Speaker 2: It's just that's the way it rolls, man.

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Speaker 4: Well and that and you know, I mean, obviously our

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Speaker 4: reality right now, like we're living in masks and trying

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Speaker 4: to speak to people through masks. Basically I turned into

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Speaker 4: Doc Rivers after about thirty minutes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so what's it like though, way at that day,

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Speaker 5: because you know, I've seen a little bit on TV

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Speaker 5: and it looks like there's a fairly decent crowd attending

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Speaker 5: a lot of the games, Like, apart from obviously people

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Speaker 5: wearing masks, it kind of looks like it always does

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of back rubs going on, a lot

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Speaker 5: of meeting and greeting and networking. So, you know, is

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Speaker 5: it just as normal because I know you've been there

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Speaker 5: obviously in years prior.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't say it's normal, right, there's a lot

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Speaker 4: I mean, everyone's doing the Hey, you don't know who

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Speaker 4: I am. Look at me without my mask for two seconds,

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Speaker 4: you know, But I don't know. We all see our

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Speaker 4: seeing our friends. There's a lot of hugging, you know,

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Speaker 4: and I know that we're not supposed to do that,

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Speaker 4: but I'm sorry, I can't help myself.

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Speaker 3: It really it really has been nice.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like with what we've all kind of gone

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Speaker 4: through globally, to see your friends for the first time

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Speaker 4: in a long time, it's been it's been a great week.

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Speaker 4: This is already it's already my favorite week of the year.

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Speaker 4: Because I get to see so many people that I

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Speaker 4: just basketball, like just similar sensibilities. And so it's been

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Speaker 4: nice to catch up with so many of these people

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Speaker 4: that I haven't seen. And I gotta be honest, man,

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Speaker 4: like I haven't been in an arena with fans. The

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Speaker 4: at the Utah Jazz Boston Celtics game like five days

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Speaker 4: before the league shutdown. And so for me personally, it's

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Speaker 3: I know that's corny, but I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, but I think we've missed a lot of that.

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Speaker 5: You know, we took it for granted for so long,

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Speaker 5: you're saying. Everyone's just like, yeah, yeah, it's me. Oh yeah, hey,

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Speaker 3: Well, especially me.

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Speaker 4: I'm just another bald, white dude with the mask on it,

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Speaker 4: you know, like you don't get the whole iconic.

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Speaker 2: But it's true that you are a hugger, and I'm

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Speaker 2: glad to see you haven't changed, because I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 2: this up here on YouTube. I remember you came through

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Speaker 2: the No Dutch studio last year. It's the first time

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Speaker 2: we met, but we had a good hug as you

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Speaker 2: see here on the tube.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, listen, man, I think that it's important to touch people.

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Speaker 1: It's good, right, that's one of our senses.

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Speaker 3: Man, we need them.

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Speaker 1: What hotel are you staying at?

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Speaker 4: I met the Link so I do Sports Business classroom

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Speaker 4: here at Summer League every year, and you know that's

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Speaker 4: where we put up our students this year. The Palms

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Speaker 4: where we usually stay, I guess it's shut down for now,

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Speaker 4: so we're at the Link, which is a different experience.

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Speaker 3: I've never actually stayed on the strip.

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Speaker 4: It's a whole nother ballgame when you have to walk

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Speaker 4: outside and you know, at six am, and there's different

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Speaker 4: You know, the pro stay there so there's never anything

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Speaker 1: Let's just say that, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And Lee was saying it does feel similar on TV.

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Speaker 2: I think they've done a good job of, you know,

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Speaker 2: just like old summer leagues. And maybe I've been swayed

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Speaker 2: because i haven't had to, you know, go through the

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Speaker 1: But it feels like a good summer league to me

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's because again I'm just seeing the little

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, can you rank it? Is this

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Speaker 1: the best summer leak you've ever been to?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean recency bias, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: Like we're back in the gym man like, So yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is this is my favorite thing.

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Speaker 3: Summer League is my favorite NBA basketball, Like it's earnest.

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Speaker 4: It's honest. There's a lot of guys out here that

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Speaker 4: don't have jobs, that are trying to get a job,

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Speaker 4: and you can see that, I mean, good and bad.

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Speaker 4: You can see that, right, Like a lot of guys

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, I love this.

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Speaker 4: I love to see guys getting opportunity to showcase their talent,

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Speaker 4: not just for NBA teams, J League teams, but for

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe they're going to go to Europe, and

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Speaker 4: there's something about that. As a basketball coach, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm a sucker for that. And there's not as much

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Speaker 4: flopping here as you catch during you know, like the

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Speaker 5: Well maybe maybe they're trying to get used to the

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Speaker 5: new rules. I mean, well, I guess that's more. You know,

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Speaker 5: you can't jump into the player any any more at that,

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Speaker 5: but I did want to ask they're using the Wilson bulls.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure then for this season, like any talk about that,

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Speaker 5: it just like you know what, no one really cares.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of guys who aren't used to touching the

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, is this what it always felt like? You know?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you get like Desmond Bay out here running

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Speaker 4: point guard and he touches the ball, what five or

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Speaker 4: six times a game, So no, nobody's actually brought up

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Speaker 4: because the last time he changed the ball, that was

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Speaker 3: So if you change balls.

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Speaker 4: And no one's mentioning it, I think that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, we should talk a little bit about the stars.

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Speaker 2: As much as it is fun to talk about those

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Speaker 2: the top. Kate Cunningham with the Pistons, there was a little,

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Speaker 2: Cad Cunningham's.

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Speaker 4: Game, Well, My big take is you should never judge

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Speaker 4: anyone by their first Summer League game, right, And let's

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Speaker 4: not forget Killian Hayes was out there and I guess

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Speaker 4: didn't realize why everyone was in the gym.

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Speaker 3: You know, I wanted to see kid just every possession

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Speaker 4: But I think there's a little bit of maturity there

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Speaker 4: when you can be a Caid Cunningham, who was you know,

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Speaker 4: the number one pick, I mean, clearly the best player

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Speaker 4: settle a little bit to be second banana. Like Killian

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Speaker 4: Hayes was running so much of the offense in those

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Speaker 4: early games, and you know, you watch Cad and he

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Speaker 4: really just kind of blended in. And then as the

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Speaker 4: week has gone on, one of the things I've noticed

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Speaker 4: about him more than just the play like he had

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Speaker 4: the game where he hit seven threes or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I don't care about that, but he's a.

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Speaker 4: Leader and that's fascinating to watch for a guy who

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Speaker 4: is a rookie. I mean, he's been a professional for

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Speaker 4: what ten days, pretty amazing the way that he's connected

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Speaker 4: with his teammates. He's great about making eye contact. I

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Speaker 4: mean this is like weird things to pay attention to,

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Speaker 4: but I think ultimately they're going to lead to his

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Speaker 3: I mean when you.

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Speaker 4: Watch the way he is engaged fully in summer League.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is the number one pick. He doesn't

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Speaker 4: have to be here if he didn't want to, Like

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Speaker 4: he could just do the oh I tweaked my ankle

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Speaker 4: So the you know, the play is whatever. But I'm

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Speaker 2: think they're gonna be the most exciting team next year

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Speaker 2: just to watch. You know, whether or not they're top

436
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 2: six team, that's gonna be hard in the East, but

437
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,159
Speaker 2: I think they will be the hot ticket anyway to

438
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 2: watch next season.

439
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 4: They have good energy, right, The ball has energy. This

440
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,399
Speaker 4: is a Mike D'Antoni thing. The ball has energy, so

441
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,400
Speaker 4: you want to see it move. They are They are

442
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 4: strict in their point five principles, which is you know

443
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 4: that half a second that you get to make a decision.

444
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 3: You're either gonna shoot it, you're gonna pass.

445
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 4: It, You're gonna drive right like they are strict about it,

446
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 4: and I think coach Coach Barrego has done a great job.

447
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 4: I mean, plain and simple. I mean, they're getting him

448
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 4: an extension. I think I don't know if they've wrapped

449
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 4: that up, but he's going to extend.

450
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Speaker 5: I think they announced that already.

451
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 3: Actually yeah, yeah, and well deserved.

452
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Speaker 4: I mean, this was a team that had no hope,

453
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 4: and you know, you add a couple of talented players

454
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 4: and a really really talented coach from San Antonio. You know,

455
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 4: so he knows how it's done. He's been there, he's

456
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 4: seen it, and it's pretty clear that they're building something

457
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 4: fun and special. And so they were already like number

458
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Speaker 4: one in my league past rankings last year.

459
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Danny LaRue loves them and and

460
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 3: so you know that they're good.

461
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Speaker 4: But I will say this book night, he better hope

462
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Speaker 4: Davion Mitchell isn't out there every night because David I

463
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 4: watched Davion Mitchell lock him up. I mean it was

464
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Speaker 4: that was a defensive display like I've never seen it

465
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 4: Summer League. I mean, Summer League is great basketball, but

466
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 4: it's not usually amazing defense. And Davion Mitchell really put

467
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Speaker 4: it on James Booknight. I don't know if there's something

468
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 4: personal there or not, but I was pretty impressed.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sacramento King's guard number nine pick. He plays a

470
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Speaker 2: lot bigger than his size. I question when they drafted him,

471
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Speaker 2: you know, do you want to play him with darreon

472
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Speaker 2: Fox and Tyres Haliburton? Is that the pick to make

473
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Speaker 2: it number nine? But he literally shut down an NBA

474
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: player next year at Summer League, like literally sent him

475
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 2: the other way, like twenty four seconds of defense. No, sir,

476
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: you are not getting a shot off. Davion Mitchell is

477
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Speaker 2: the real deal defensively. I wonder if they play all

478
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Speaker 2: those three guys in Sacramento. That was something that never

479
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: never happens at Summer leak. No, you're you're allowed to

480
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: get a shot off. But that was that was really impressive.

481
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was.

482
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Speaker 4: It was like the Devin Booker, you know, the Jym

483
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 4: sessions from a couple of years ago, like what are

484
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Speaker 4: we doing?

485
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Speaker 3: What's happening here?

486
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Speaker 4: And you know, pretty quickly Charlotte started subbing book Night

487
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Speaker 4: out when when Davion Mitchell is in there, and I

488
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Speaker 4: get it, because you need those guys to get those

489
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Speaker 4: reps and Davian Mitchell was not interested. They don't care.

490
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 4: He didn't care what their plan was. He was like, Nope,

491
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 4: he's not touching the ball. And I was really really

492
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Speaker 4: impressed by that. It was a guy that really wanted

493
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Speaker 4: to make a statement. I talked to a friend of

494
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Speaker 4: mine that works on the coaching staff with the Kings,

495
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Speaker 4: and she feels like he's going to be able to

496
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Speaker 4: guard up with no problem. Now I don't know I

497
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Speaker 4: agree with that, but I'm curious to see it. I mean,

498
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 4: he's he's got an NBA ready body. He clearly can defend.

499
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: Maybe the offensive end could be an issue, but I

500
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 4: don't know, a six foot one guy guarding six to

501
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 4: seven wings in the NBA is feels precarious.

502
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't have nothing. Speaking of guys who are

503
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Speaker 5: trying to make an impact, And again, I know you

504
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 5: haven't been sort of watching every single game, but it's

505
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Speaker 5: hard to sort of not know that Bowl Bowl has

506
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Speaker 5: had some a couple of really good moments, and I'm

507
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 5: a big Bowl leaver in Bowl Bowl, but he hasn't

508
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 5: really been able to, you know, grasp a firm place

509
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Speaker 5: in the Nuggets rotation. There was talk about, you know,

510
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 5: a trade there with the Aaron Gordon stuff. They wanted

511
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Speaker 5: to keep bowl ball. They they also think that, you know,

512
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Speaker 5: he can be a contributor anything you're seeing or hearing

513
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 5: that this is more than just a summer I think

514
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 5: he had twenty six points the other day. He's going

515
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 5: coast to coast like he's got incredible handle for a

516
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 5: guy that big and that lanky. So are you hearing

517
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Speaker 5: anything that that you know, maybe this is the sort

518
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 5: of time for ball ball to get a bit more

519
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 5: of a permanent, you know, spot on the rotation for

520
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Speaker 5: the nuggets.

521
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Speaker 1: We're going.

522
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, yeah, I love it. I love it so much.

523
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: I love it. You know, I think it's important not

524
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: to get bowled over by summer. Leave. Let's go, let's go.

525
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Speaker 3: I will say I did. I.

526
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Speaker 4: I actually got to see some ball and I like

527
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 4: that he's got the ball in his hands a little

528
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 4: bit here, the pull up, the off, the dribble threes

529
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Speaker 4: that he that he's been taking, those are good. I mean,

530
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Speaker 4: if you think about it, he's a wing and if

531
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Speaker 4: he's gonna play, he's got to play on the wing

532
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 4: because you're not going to play him in the middle.

533
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Speaker 2: Uh.

534
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Speaker 3: Even when they zoned up with him at center last year.

535
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Speaker 3: It didn't work well.

536
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Speaker 4: Like, he doesn't have the natural instincts to guard in

537
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Speaker 4: the middle, protect the rim.

538
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Speaker 3: Uh, And you can't.

539
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Speaker 4: Do with him what they're able to do with Yokic

540
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 4: because his feet aren't as good. You know, Jokic is

541
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Speaker 4: able to come up. He can blitz and and use

542
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 4: his hands. I mean, that's actually where he's best defensively.

543
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 4: It's a little bit confusing because we're so used to

544
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 4: the to the drop big and playing at the rim,

545
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Speaker 4: but you kitchen, what he does is kind of special.

546
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Speaker 3: Uh, but bowl can't do that stuff.

547
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Speaker 4: So I think that ultimately, if he's gonna play, he's

548
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 4: gonna be on the wing.

549
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Speaker 3: I don't know who he guards, maybe no one, but

550
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: he can put it in the basket.

551
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Speaker 4: That's never been the question, right, Like the question with

552
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 4: him has always been what's he gonna do on the

553
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Speaker 4: defensive end. I'd like to see him get a role there.

554
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, backup player. Defense just isn't as important.

555
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 4: He's not gonna get a lot of minutes against him,

556
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 4: beat or anything like that. So I'd like to see

557
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 4: them throw throw him out there a bit. But uh,

558
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 4: you know, we'll see. I don't think I can believe

559
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 4: it yet.

560
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Speaker 1: Mm was that a bowl? Leave it?

561
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: Believe it?

562
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe you did that.

563
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break because we got to talk

564
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Speaker 2: about Jalen Suggs. I know people want to hear whether

565
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: or not the Raptors made the right pick at four

566
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Speaker 2: with Scottie Barnes. Here's the answer in the words, yeah

567
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: you think so, Dave, I agree with you. In the

568
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: words of Scottie Barnes, bang bitch. We'll get to that

569
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Speaker 2: in a sec. We'll talk Jonathanman, we'll talk to the Clippers trade.

570
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

571
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Speaker 1: All right, we're back with no dounks.

572
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Speaker 2: I want to get into the Scottie Barnes Jalen Suggs

573
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Speaker 2: scenario at the four or five picks in the NBA draft.

574
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Speaker 2: I know a lot of fans were surprised the Raptors

575
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Speaker 2: took Scotty Barnes at four, but I know a lot

576
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Speaker 2: of front offices would have made that same pick. Although

577
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: obviously Jalen Suggs that guy cam Ball.

578
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Speaker 1: But let's start. Let's start with Scotty.

579
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Speaker 2: You said that it wasn't a mistake in your eyes,

580
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Speaker 2: that the Raps took Scotty Barnes, what do you think

581
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Speaker 2: about him so far?

582
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Speaker 4: I mean they took a good player who comes into

583
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 4: the league with an NBA body, right, so he is

584
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: going to make an impact from day one. And I

585
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: don't know if that matters or not, but I happen

586
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 4: to just like players that can play basketball, you know.

587
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: I think we get a little bit too hung up

588
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Speaker 4: on shooting for the guy who maybe a Hall of

589
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Speaker 4: Famer instead of Wow, this guy's going to be really

590
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 4: good for a really long time, and.

591
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Speaker 3: We know he's going to be really good for a

592
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Speaker 3: really long time.

593
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 4: Like Scotty Barnes can play basketball, he can play offense,

594
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 4: he can play defense. He's going to start from day one,

595
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 4: and he is a starter. I think that matters for

596
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 4: a team that I don't know that they want to tank,

597
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: you know. I think that if they bring everyone back,

598
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: this is a team that should be trying to compete

599
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: for the playoffs. And if you want a guy who's

600
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Speaker 4: going to contribute to that, Scotty Barnes is a guy

601
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Speaker 4: I don't know if Suggs is right now now. Suggs

602
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 4: may wind up being a better player long term and certainly,

603
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 4: you know, MASSI might get roasted if he's putting up,

604
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: you know, thirty a game, But I don't know.

605
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: I like Scotty Barnes a lot. I liked him in

606
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Speaker 3: high school.

607
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 4: I liked him when I when I've seen him at

608
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: USA camp, and I think that that guy's going to

609
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 4: be a really, really good player. He's a connector on

610
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 4: the court. And people keep bringing up Draymond Green, and

611
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 4: I think it's just because they don't know what to

612
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 4: do with guys that can do so many things, and

613
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 4: especially at his size and the way that he can

614
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Speaker 4: play defense.

615
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Speaker 3: But the truth is, Scotty Barnes is Scotty Barnes.

616
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: He's one of one and it's gonna be He's a

617
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 4: unique player, and I'm curious to see how his game grows.

618
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 4: Too many folks think that he's, you know, already where

619
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Speaker 4: he is gonna wind up. They're not projecting the same

620
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: growth for Scotty Barnes for some reason. It's like this

621
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 4: guy's nineteen years old, who knows what.

622
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: He's going to be.

623
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Speaker 1: That's a great take, Dave before, that's a great take.

624
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: That's why you're a lifer here on No Dunks.

625
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: I mean, and I think the growth that people should

626
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: be projecting is a high one for Scotty Barnes because

627
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: he said it on when he got drafted that he

628
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: wants to be one of the best players in the NBA.

629
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Speaker 2: I think he's not afraid of the offensive end whatsoever.

630
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: The defensive body and what he looks like in comparison

631
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: to other NBA players, guys who are going to be

632
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: in the league right now is important. He can go

633
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: out there and he's not going to get pushed over.

634
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: He's going to make an impact on that end, and

635
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: he has already made an impact on the other end.

636
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: Key airball to three and then he kept shooting them.

637
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: He's not scared and I think that's going to continue

638
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: into his NBA life. I believe in him, and I

639
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: think he believes in himself, and that's why he dropped

640
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: the bang bitch when he hit that three. Our friend

641
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: Great Dane with a great drawing of Scottie Barnes, were

642
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: showing you here on YouTube. The guy's a believer. He's

643
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: blowing is his pistol after shooting that three. But Jalen

644
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: Suggs also obviously believes in himself and he was pretty

645
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: freaking great. I just think the maturity of a lot

646
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: of these guys. As I said earlier, I don't know

647
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: if they're just the programs are getting better, you know yourself.

648
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: No, the kids are good. The kids are good, man,

649
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 4: That's what it is. And maybe this could be the

650
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 4: Lebron effect. But if you look at the league, the

651
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 4: guys under twenty five to have the best vibes, right,

652
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: Like these guys they share the ball, and again this

653
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: could be the Lebron effect where you have the best

654
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 4: player in the league is so well known for getting

655
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: other people involved, making the right play, making the right pass.

656
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: And now we have a generation that grew up watching

657
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 4: that guy. It's cool, man, Like John Morant is awesome,

658
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: like just perfect vibes, looks like a great teammate LaMelo Ball.

659
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: Like we just talked about Anthony Edwards, who is the

660
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: king of vibes. He sometime somehow stole the title from

661
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: Ricky Rubio. And I mean, it's just I don't know, man.

662
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: I really like where the league is headed. It's got

663
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 4: so much talent. And you know you talked about the

664
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: G League. The G League probably is about fifty percent

665
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 4: NBA players at this point. I mean, that's how talented

666
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: the league is overall, and so it's nice to see

667
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 4: that not only do you need to have talent, but

668
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: you also have to have good vibes, because I think

669
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: basketball at its peak is a good vibe sport. I mean,

670
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: it's a communist sport if you want to get technical,

671
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: because you have to share the ball and everybody has

672
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: to be apart, like everyone has to grab the rope.

673
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 4: And so many of these young guys come in understanding that.

674
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I talked about Kate Cunningham's leadership in Summer League,

675
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: which is such a silly thing to say, but it exists,

676
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: and so generally, younger guys in the league just have

677
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: better vibes. I don't know what it is. I want

678
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 4: to figure it out, but I'm enjoying it. All of

679
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: these guys just seem like good dudes who want to hoop,

680
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: and I respect it because I can I can relate.

681
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they're just not jaded quite yet by the

682
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: business of it all, even though they're sort of involved

683
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: in the business side of things already. Maybe they they

684
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: haven't traded after giving.

685
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 1: It all, or you know that kind of thing.

686
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards is never going to be jaded. No.

687
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean he came into the arena where you're sitting

688
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: right now doing this interview, and he did an interview

689
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: and as you said, is he's the king of social media,

690
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: is the king of interviews.

691
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: That guy's money on the mic. And I look forward

692
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: to the Timberwolves next year.

693
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna grow, especially because of you know,

694
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: guys like that, like the swagger on him. I think

695
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: Jada McDaniels has been really good in Summer League as

696
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: a second year guy. But yeah, there's there's guys who

697
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: not only believe in themselves, like like Jalen Suggs for instance,

698
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: He's ready to take a game winner in his first game.

699
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: But up and down this this draft lass even I

700
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: think Jonathan Kminga at seven. You talk about the Warriors

701
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: potentially being Bret again. He mentioned Draymond Green, a healthy

702
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: Clay and Steph and then they get a guy at six'

703
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: eight two. Ten Marcus thompson On The athletic Describe Jonathan

704
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: kaminga as a bully and if he gets a little,

705
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: space he's shown that he can just dominate guys, physically

706
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: and he's gonna get space to shoot with with With

707
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: steph And. Clay have you been as impressed AS i

708
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: have With jonathan kaminga who people were also a little

709
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: speculative about because he's got a lot of, talent but

710
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: he hasn't necessarily put it put it all together in

711
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: his his one.

712
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: Year Of Ji. League but the guy's eighteen frickin years.

713
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: OLD i think the eighteen years old thing is important

714
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: to keep in mind when you're thinking about. Him he

715
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 4: has bolder shoulders at. Eighteen, uh he's gonna he's gonna

716
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: be a bigger guy in three or four years than

717
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: he already. Is and he's already a, man a man

718
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 4: amongst boys here At Summer. League he's a little bit

719
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 4: shiftier THAN i. Expected he's got nice bursts and you,

720
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: know gets this little you, know one dribble move and

721
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 4: can get to the. HOOP i, mean we've all seen the,

722
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: dunks right the guy is looking down at the rim

723
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: when he's, dunking and he's able.

724
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: To get there like.

725
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 4: THAT i, mean he's just so quick at getting up

726
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: to the, basket which for a guy his size is

727
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: kind of.

728
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: Unique So i've liked seeing him on the.

729
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: Ball as an initiator and being, aggressive pushing the, issue

730
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: trying to get to the.

731
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: Basket i'm curious how it's.

732
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: Going to work having a guy who is going to

733
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 4: be figuring things out on a team that expects to,

734
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: COMPETE i mean for a, title not just make the.

735
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: Playoffs SO i don't know if they're going to keep

736
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: if he's going to get a lot of. RUN i

737
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: suspect that he needs MORE G league time to learn

738
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: how to Play warriors. BASKETBALL i, mean playing With Steph

739
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 4: curry is a little bit different than playing with other.

740
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: Guys you have more.

741
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 4: Responsibilities you, know your screening responsibilities are, different and passing

742
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 4: that's going to be the biggest skill that he needs to.

743
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: Develop can he figure out how to hit, guys you,

744
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 4: know movement shooters Like clay And steph on the, move

745
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: hit him in their shooting, pocket setting up for the

746
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: threes that they need to take that actually is going

747
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: to open up the space for him to attack the.

748
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: Basket those sorts of. Things so what we're seeing in

749
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: Summer league is maybe a precursor to what we see

750
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: in the regular. Season But i'm curious to see how

751
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: it fits and if he's a part of the rotation

752
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: for a team, that LIKE i, SAID i, mean they want.

753
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: To make the.

754
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: Finals i'm guessing you Have Steph curry And Klayte thompson

755
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: And Dremond, green you should be trying to make the

756
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: finals every. YEAR i don't know If kuminga is a

757
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 4: guy that's going to contribute to that.

758
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 5: Yet, yeah well that's that's the thing With it's a

759
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 5: bit late last year With. WISEMAN i, mean do The

760
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 5: warriors keep these young guys or do they try to

761
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 5: maybe package one or both of them even to get a.

762
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 5: Vet you, know they brought Back Andre. Gudala, obviously now,

763
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: yig he's not the same player he was when he

764
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 5: won the FINALS. Mvp you, know he's certainly at the

765
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 5: tail end of his. Career BUT i feel, that you,

766
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 5: know we're all very excited to Have Klay thompson back next,

767
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 5: season assuming obviously everything goes.

768
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: Well BUT i.

769
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 5: Do still feel that The warriors, are you, know that

770
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 5: piece away from really contending out in The. WEST i

771
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 5: mean maybe not maybe if When straymond's you know, there

772
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 5: With steph And, clay they just bring that old chemistry.

773
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: Back BUT i just wonder if The warriors do move

774
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 5: on from one of these guys just to get, that you,

775
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 5: know another big or someone who's more complimentary to their

776
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 5: stars and just in that win now, mode you, know

777
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 5: because these younger, guys JUST.

778
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 4: I have no expectations Of Clay, thompson you. KNOW i

779
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: think that that's kind of the big question mark for.

780
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: Me we saw What steph did last. YEAR i Think

781
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 4: draymond is going to come back from especially from The,

782
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: olympics and just be more motivated and ready to. Go

783
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: but of course we know that he's going to take

784
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 4: the regular season to get himself ready for the. Playoffs

785
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: But clay coming back from two years off and two

786
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: big time injuries and THE acl is more concerning to

787
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 4: me For clay than The achilles because THE, acl you,

788
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: know it just it seems like it affects shooters worse

789
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 4: than guys who play on the, ball WHICH i know

790
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: is a funny, thing but if you look at the

791
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 4: statistics of shooters coming back FROM acl, injuries it doesn't

792
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 4: it doesn't go. Well usually the trends are. Down and he's.

793
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: Aging SO i don't want be, like, oh he's thirty.

794
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: TWO i think he's thirty. Two he's thirty. Two he's

795
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: basically got one foot in the, grave but coming back

796
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: from two years off two significant leg.

797
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: Injuries, there if.

798
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 4: You're Expecting Klay thompson to be an ALL nba level,

799
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 4: PLAYER i think that that's an unrealistic Expectation right. Now

800
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 4: he's a mystery. Box AND i think that going into the,

801
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 4: season if You're Golden, state you have to approach it that.

802
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 3: Way you can't wrest on your laurels if you expect

803
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: to make.

804
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 4: The finals and say, well we Got clay, back because

805
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 4: we don't know if he's Still.

806
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: Clay.

807
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 5: YEAH i mean looking at What durant did, though coming

808
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 5: off and. Achilles obviously he didn't have the acl as,

809
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 5: well but he had an achilles that you, know a

810
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 5: lot of guys who have had it has said that

811
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 5: virtually ended their career because they don't get that. Explosiveness

812
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 5: But Kevin durant is probably the greatest EXAMPLE i think

813
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 5: we've seen of anybody coming back from an achilles where it's, like,

814
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 5: man he, was you know in THE mvp. Conversation if

815
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 5: it wasn't for sort of coronavirus and a few other

816
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 5: things this, season he probably was right there with those other.

817
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 5: Guys so in that to.

818
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: That, point you, KNOW i Think.

819
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 5: Clay i'm pretty confident that as a, shooter and from

820
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 5: what we've seen From, clay he will be able to

821
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 5: get back to that same. Level it might take him

822
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 5: a few months just to adapt. Again but you, know

823
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: in some, WAYS i think that just the advancements in

824
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 5: technology and the way guys. Recover seeing what it did For,

825
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 5: DURANT i don't quite have the same sort of fear

826
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 5: anymore that it can basically end to guy's. Career which is,

827
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 5: great you, know because Because Kevin durant in some aspects

828
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 5: at his best, season you, know the way that he

829
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 5: just came out there was smoothly scoring and doing it.

830
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 5: All so hopefully that's a positive sign that what we

831
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 5: might be able to see From clay when he does.

832
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 4: RETURN i will say THAT i Think durant getting the

833
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: extra time off after The, ACHILLES i mean he was

834
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: basically out for what eighteen.

835
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: Months or something like.

836
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 4: That, yeah, yeah And clay has had the extra time

837
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 4: from the ecl but not from The, achilles and The

838
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: achilles injury has prevented him from doing basketball.

839
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: Stuff so, again it's.

840
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 4: JUST i worry about what it's going to look like

841
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: as he's coming BACK i, Hope, HONESTLY i hope they

842
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: Keep mount Until.

843
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: January that way he gets that extra.

844
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 4: Window you're probably good enough that you can at least

845
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: hang in the playoff race until, then but the extra

846
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: time is key on That. ACHILLES i, MEAN i Think

847
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: Kevin durant is a perfect example of what a guy

848
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 4: can look like now coming back From. Achilles with modern.

849
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 4: MEDICINE i, mean the surgical techniques have improved so. MUCH

850
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 4: i mean we always forget That Rudy gay had a torn.

851
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 4: ACHILLES i mean he came back just as. EXPLOSIVE i

852
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: Mean Kevin durant. WAS i, Mean i've never seen a

853
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 4: guy shoot contested shots like, that and maybe that's because

854
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: of limited fans or, whatever or he was just it

855
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: was pent up energy For Kevin, durant and he was, like,

856
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: WELL i can't miss a shot this. YEAR i don't

857
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: know what it, was but The achilles clearly wasn't a

858
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 4: problem for. Him SO i hope we see the same

859
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: thing With, Clay BUT i can't assume, it.

860
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: RIGHT i, think, yeah the, expectations the range on those

861
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: expectations going to be pretty dramatic for The Golden State.

862
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: Warriors people are gonna have. THEM i think even as

863
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: high as first in The west to, yeah it's pretty.

864
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: Low we should mention Is Moses. Moody he's out there

865
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: In vegas being a, defensive a glue guy that's probably

866
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: going to get help from Me goodala as a wing.

867
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: Defender he looks like he's ready to contribute to The

868
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: Golden State. Warriors that's a classic preseason. Question we're going

869
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: to be asking what team has the, biggest you, know

870
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: the biggest chasm of. Expectations The warriors should be. One

871
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: one other preseason question we love to ask is who's

872
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: going to take that jump from year one to year.

873
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: TWO i Mentioned jada McDaniels as a guy with The

874
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: TIMBERWOLVES i think has been really good out there from

875
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: What i've. Seen anybody else that strikes you as a

876
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: guy who could take a, Jump.

877
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 4: Dave Desmond, bain you look at What memphis. Did they

878
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: clearly had a goal in. Mind they wanted him doing

879
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 4: more playmaking on the. Ball we saw that in college from.

880
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: Him it's one of the things THAT i actually liked

881
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 4: about him was THAT i thought he could be a

882
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 4: secondary for, sure a TERTIARY nba.

883
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: PLAYMAKER i, mean we know about the.

884
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 4: Shooting teams respect the, shooting and now they've got a

885
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: guy THAT i think that they trust on the wing

886
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i believe he'll start next to next to Joh

887
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 4: When john gets into the paint and the defense is sucked,

888
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: in they're gonna be able to Hit baine on the

889
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 4: wing and you're gonna be able to run side pick

890
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: and roll because you know he can find a. Shooter

891
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 4: but also the threat of him shooting is going to

892
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 4: create an advantage for their. Offense SO i Think Desmond

893
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 4: bayane is Going he's poised for a big time.

894
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 3: Season he's going to open a lot of, eyes.

895
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 4: And we're gonna get a lot of you, know revisionist

896
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: history on the, draft and a lot of people like

897
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 4: myself will probably, Say, wow The warriors should have gotten this.

898
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: Guy he can. PLAY i, mean drafting good, players it's

899
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: a hell of a draft. Strategy.

900
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: GUY i was talking To Zach, clemon who's THE gm

901
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: of The. Grizzlies he popped in the sports business classroom

902
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: AND i, said, hey, MAN i love that you just

903
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: draft guys who can play already, weird you, know like

904
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 4: good basketball players playing. Basketball it, works and you, know

905
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 4: you get some success that is actually sustainable.

906
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: As a rookie shot it too ready to four to

907
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: three is a game last year and he shot forty

908
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: three was probably something that.

909
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 3: Need that volume would go. Up.

910
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: THOUGH i want to see, him you, know, like let's

911
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 4: get like seven eight threes per thirty.

912
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 3: Six that's the guy who should be doing.

913
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 4: THAT i think he could be a forty five three

914
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: point shooter on catch and shoot, Stuff like there's there's

915
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: no question about it that he can put it in the. Basket,

916
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 4: now they need him to become a secondary, guy secondary

917
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 4: playmaker or tertiary playmaker When Jaron jackson is out there and,

918
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: healthy because that's going to be the thing that takes

919
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 4: them to the next level and makes them a real playoff,

920
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 4: team not a playing.

921
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 5: Team, yeah The grizzlies that are one of the most

922
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 5: exciting potential teams next. Season you, Know ken jar turned

923
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 5: this super incredible talent into you, KNOW i mean they,

924
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 5: had you, know made the. Playoffs they took a game

925
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 5: off The jazz as. Well you, know he's he's certainly

926
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 5: living up to his end of the. Billing But Ken

927
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 5: Jaron jackson stay on the. COURT i think that's probably

928
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 5: the biggest question for The grizzlies heading into next, season

929
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 5: because there's no question he's got the talent and he's

930
00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 5: an un unusual.

931
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: Player he's six to, eleven but.

932
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: He's not a big as. Such he's more a bit

933
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 5: like Bub, ball a bit of a wing. Player you,

934
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: know he loves shooting those. Threes he's not a great,

935
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 5: rebounder so you, know where are they going to. Fight

936
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 5: they Traded valentiunas as, well which was a bit of

937
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 5: an unusual, move and they've made a few other deals as,

938
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 5: well just in the last twenty four hours, here so.

939
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: Very you, know.

940
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 5: Somewhat optimistic about The, grizzlies but also not sure if

941
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 5: they are better than they were last season right now.

942
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: They may not.

943
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: BE a lot of this is going to be internal,

944
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: development you, know jar getting, Better. Jared you Mentioned jaren

945
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: standing on the, court him being, healthy being able to

946
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 4: get a full camp is going to be important for.

947
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 4: Him hopefully he doesn't foul as. Much that's another issue

948
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: With jared is that not only can he not stand

949
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 4: on the court so far because of the physical, stuff

950
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: which it, happens right like guys get. Hurt he had

951
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 4: a knee thing and it's been a weird couple of seasons,

952
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: Too SO i think there's a little bit of caution

953
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: on the on The grizzlies. Behalf but he also fouls too,

954
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: much and so you cannot take yourself off the off the,

955
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: court in particular when you have a hard time being

956
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: on the. Court so that's the sort of GROWTH i

957
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: want to see from From jaren is staying on the,

958
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: court you. Know and for, jobs it's gonna be about

959
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: the three. Ball can he shoot the three? Better especially

960
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: off the. Dribble AND i think With bain out, there

961
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 4: you're gonna get a little bit more space than he had. Before,

962
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: like people are gonna Respect, bain people are gonna Respect

963
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 4: Jaron jackson as a, SHOOTER i, mean which is if

964
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: you look at his, numbers he's on pace to be

965
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 4: the most prolific big man three point shooter IN nba.

966
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 4: HISTORY i, mean it is absurd what this guy has

967
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: done so far in his. Career and he was someone

968
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: THAT i was high on as an all time potential

969
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 4: defender because of his defensive feel and that hasn't. Developed

970
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 4: i've been shocked by. That, actually the, foul the fouling

971
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: still gets in his. Way But memphis is exciting because

972
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 4: everyone can. Play their biggest problem is we have too many.

973
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 4: Guys they're gonna have to make consolidation. Trades AND i,

974
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: mean you, know we haven't even talked About Brandon, clark

975
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 4: who was you, know had a really weird season this past,

976
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 4: year but it's still a good. Player so they've got

977
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: so many guys on that, team you, Know Zeer, tillman

978
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 4: who we're not even talking. About so they've done a

979
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 4: good job of collecting good basketball. Players i'm really curious

980
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: to see how it's going to look when they make

981
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: a team out of.

982
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: It and you're not just saying that because THEIR gm

983
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: came through sports business classroom and talk to. Everybody, No,

984
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: no they are a collection of, talent, Absolutely and you

985
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: said one of their issues is how much talent they've,

986
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: collected and we should talk about the trade that they just.

987
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: Made they added on a couple more, players which is.

988
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 2: Surprising Eric, bledsoe if everyone, remembers he was a member

989
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: of The New Orleans pelicans but went to The Memphis grizzlies.

990
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: Earlier in the.

991
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: Offseason now they've traded him to The clippers For Patrick,

992
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: beverly Rush On rondo And Daniel, O'touru so they added

993
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: another couple of. Players Eric, BLEDSOE i would, think is

994
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: going to be a part of The clippers'. Rotation they've

995
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: obviously given up on two point guards there And beverly And,

996
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: rondo and they just Hope Eric bledsoe can be a

997
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: little bit of a, playmaker especially With kawhi. Out they

998
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: save a lot of money in this. Deal but The,

999
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: grizzlies what do you think they're doing with this collection Of,

1000
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: Beverly rondo and a big man In.

1001
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 4: Oturu, Dave, well this is the o'turu. Trade right when

1002
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: they traded For Josh shackson and De Anthony. Melton we

1003
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: called it The melton trade because you have to, LOOK i,

1004
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 4: mean you, know get past The Pat beverly and The Rajon,

1005
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 4: rondo think about Where memphis is is a. Team this

1006
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 4: is what an easy way to pick up a young

1007
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: guy who might have some. Talent, again it's more bites

1008
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 4: at the apple For, memphis and they're doing a great

1009
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: job of getting these. GUYS i, mean even That Josh shackson,

1010
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 4: trade it was worth a shot and it just didn't

1011
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 4: work out for, Them but they got The, melton but

1012
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 4: it worked. Exactly So i'm excited to see what they

1013
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 4: do With. THETURO i, mean this is yet another big

1014
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 4: and he might not get any, minutes but if he,

1015
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 4: does this is a team that certainly knows how to

1016
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 4: showcase those, guys And i'm curious to see what happens

1017
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 4: again collecting another good young player or potentially good young.

1018
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: Player, yeah, okay we've got to take one more quick.

1019
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: Break BUT i do want to get to the sports

1020
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: business classroom that you're involved in every year and a

1021
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: potential potential. SPONSORSHIP i think we could have a co

1022
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: sponsorship between yourself at the athletic and between no. Dunks

1023
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a second after a really quick,

1024
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: break AND i mean a really quick.

1025
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: Break this is just one. Ad don't go.

1026
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Anywhere we are back with the, Athletics Dave. DeFore i

1027
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: really enjoyed this conversation so. Far dave and we actually

1028
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 2: partook in the Sports business classroom a few years. Ago

1029
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 2: we had a lot of fun doing. That we were

1030
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: WITH NBA tv and the starters back. Then you've been

1031
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: doing a year in and year. Out can you tell

1032
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: people who are listening about the sports business, classroom BECAUSE

1033
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: i do think they would be.

1034
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: Interested you, know it's an interesting.

1035
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 4: Thing we're like embedded In Summer, league which is unique

1036
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: in and of. Itself but you, know it's A cba

1037
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: Salary cap, scouting, analytics basketball, ops media and broadcasting crash.

1038
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: COURSE i guess you could call.

1039
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 4: It Larry, khon who is MISTER cba And Salary, cap

1040
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: teaches people who want to work in the league how it.

1041
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 4: Operates and you, KNOW i put together a. CLASS i

1042
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 4: don't teach the. CLASS i more produce. IT i bring

1043
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 4: in people like this year we Had Brian, pouga who

1044
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 4: used to be the ASSISTANT gm of The, Timberwolves Dan,

1045
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 4: purcell who was a longtime scout with The, Pelicans seth

1046
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: partnow from The athletic running our analytics. Course Eric pinkas

1047
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 4: works there bo SC's FROM NBA, tv WHICH i, know good.

1048
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: Buddy you. Guys it's a really really unique.

1049
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 4: Place it's a lot OF i, mean you guys know

1050
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 4: a lot of people in the, league and you know

1051
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: that it's a relationship business and all of this. Stuff

1052
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: and so people get to come into our class meet,

1053
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: people which is very hard to, do but actually learn

1054
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: how how to get jobs in and around basketball and

1055
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: to learn that there's more than just sitting on the

1056
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 4: bench as a coach or being a player or A

1057
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: gm there you, know ticket, sales there's the media, stuff

1058
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: there's social. Media there's so many jobs in. Basketball so

1059
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: we're actually helping people chase down their. Passions and, AGAIN

1060
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 4: i started to get corey WHEN i talk about, It

1061
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: BUT i don't mind a lot of earnest people putting

1062
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: in a lot of hard, work and you, know we

1063
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 4: spend the week working hard with them and for.

1064
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: Them so it's a fun.

1065
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: Time and we're right in the middle of basically basketball,

1066
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: convention and it's a cool time to hang out with

1067
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 4: people who are also passionate about the.

1068
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: Sport IT'S i don't, know it's my favorite week of the.

1069
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: YEAR i Saw Larry coon coming out to a standing

1070
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 5: ovation ALMOST i, mean are they playing The Alan Parsons

1071
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 5: project music when he comes out? There like The Chicago

1072
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 5: bulls from The Jordan dace they ought.

1073
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 4: TO i, mean, listen you guys Know larry and there's

1074
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 4: no better guy on the, planet and it's it's apparent

1075
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 4: and these you know that our students saw him working

1076
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: his butt off all week long for. THEM i, mean you,

1077
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: know he's the first one in the gym and the

1078
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 4: last one to.

1079
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: Leave AND i mean.

1080
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 4: IT i mean, like we're here every morning at seven

1081
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: thirty in the, morning we don't see a lick of,

1082
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 4: basketball and we go home at like ten o'clock at.

1083
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: Night but these people.

1084
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: Have have kind of of put their their dreams in our,

1085
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 4: hands and we take it. Seriously it's it's a it's

1086
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: a privilege to be honest with. You AND i know

1087
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: again IT'S i know that sounds corny and and certainly

1088
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 4: this is something that costs money and makes, money and

1089
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 4: it's easy to be kind of a cynic about.

1090
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 3: It BUT i don't, know, MAN i don't like being.

1091
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 3: Cynical it's fun.

1092
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: And larry deserves to pop a bottle at the end of.

1093
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 2: All that's that's, right showing you a bottle Of larry

1094
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: kuon with a bottle Of, barolo celebrating. THERE i don't

1095
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 2: know much about the wine, world BUT i know Those

1096
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: barolos are very. Good, yeah, touch touch sweet a little,

1097
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: bit If i'm not, mistaken but freaking.

1098
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: Good.

1099
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah ryan McDonough brought that for.

1100
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: Us he helped us out with the program former SONS gm,

1101
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 4: obviously and, uh he knows. That when we're In, Vegas

1102
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 4: larry AND i like to to get after it a little.

1103
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: Bit we drink pretty good scotch and we drink a

1104
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: pretty good bottle of wine every. Night and that was

1105
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 4: our bottle for our family dinner when we wrap for the.

1106
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 4: Week so it was pretty. Nice and, yeah, man having

1107
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: a good, time good.

1108
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: People, yep what was that scotch that you were? Showcasing

1109
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 2: there was a. COUPLE i guess.

1110
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 4: WELL i brought A logavulin Eighteen Distillers. EDITION i bought

1111
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 4: it in twenty fourteen on my way out Of. Europe,

1112
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: yeah it was, delicious. MAN i was saving. IT i

1113
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 4: was gonna we were gonna have it last. Year and

1114
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 4: SO i haven't opened this. Thing And larry AND i

1115
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: always bring a bottle and he outdoes me every.

1116
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 3: Year it's not. Fair i'm, operating you.

1117
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 4: Know like below the cap and he's, like, yeah here's

1118
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 4: this BOTTLE i flew in From. Japan i'm, like, okay

1119
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 4: but you, know it's a good. Time man like to

1120
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 4: be able to share so many passions With. Larry Larry

1121
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 4: koon is like a brother to. Me And i'm gonna

1122
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 4: start getting really really corny here but to be able

1123
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 4: to share so many passions with somebody who is also

1124
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 4: just such a good.

1125
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: Person it's. Fun.

1126
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 4: Man like, again this is a special place and special.

1127
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: People AND i Love Summer. League it's the.

1128
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: Best it's the, Best, yes it.

1129
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 2: Is it is a good time because it's the people

1130
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: who really want to be there are generally. There there

1131
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: aren't there aren't the showboater fans. Generally you gotta you

1132
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: gotta love ball if you're watching, well, YEAH i mean.

1133
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: The jerseys in this, place, man there was A Sarunas

1134
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: marshalona's jersey around. HERE i, mean this is this is

1135
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 4: a it's basketball. Woodstock, yeah it's fun. Man you always

1136
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: it's impossible to be not feel that energy and kind

1137
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 4: of get good vibes out of. It AND i, mean

1138
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 4: this what a great. Place if you have a kid

1139
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: that you want to introduce to THE, nba you can

1140
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 4: buy a ticket FOR i don't know what they, are

1141
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 4: like fifty. Bucks you could show up at one o'clock

1142
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 4: and you can watch games until the kid has passed.

1143
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: Out like what a cool. PLACE i, mean there's nothing.

1144
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 5: Like pretty close to the action. Too that's a, thing

1145
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 5: like you're not up in the. NOSEBLEEDS i don't think

1146
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 5: they actually even like allocate seats to. THAT i think

1147
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 5: you just buy a ticket and you sit wherever you. Want, so,

1148
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 5: yeah you can get courtside access to you, know the next,

1149
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 5: generation and in some, cases like Super Cool, bees you

1150
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 5: can get some past legends out there as. Well so

1151
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 5: but but on top of, that, yeah you See lebron

1152
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 5: sometimes out there And wade and you, know legends of the.

1153
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 5: Game SO i agree with. You it is actually a

1154
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 5: really cool experience if you have kids who are interested

1155
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 5: in you, know you want to be out In vegas

1156
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 5: and watch some. Basketball, yeah not the greatest basketball of all,

1157
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 5: time but fun basketball and a fun. Activity and everyone's

1158
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 5: just a little bit looser, too because you're not in

1159
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 5: the middle of the season where sometimes when you have

1160
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 5: a conversation with people who are involved in teams and front,

1161
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 5: offices there's something going, on maybe there's a trade going,

1162
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 5: down so they're a little bit more. Tense but out

1163
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 5: there everyone seems a lot happier to just talk and

1164
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 5: to you, know shoot the ship with, everybody which is

1165
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 5: which makes it a great fun.

1166
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 4: Activity, yeah this is the thing that brought us all.

1167
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: Together you know, WHAT i, mean it's, basketball AND i

1168
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 4: think that it's summer. League this is the most PURE

1169
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: nba basketball that there. Is it's very earnest and, honest

1170
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: AND i don't know guys trying to get a, job

1171
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: like we can all relate to. That you, Know i've

1172
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 4: got To we all work hard to be where we.

1173
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 4: Are you guys have been doing this. FOREVER i, mean

1174
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 4: they're about to start a practice here AND i get

1175
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 4: to watch these guys who were chasing their dream and

1176
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 4: it's really cool to see that this.

1177
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: Close and it's.

1178
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: Different it's a different, experience especially after what we all went, through,

1179
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 4: Right like we lost this last, year and it makes

1180
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: me appreciate it even.

1181
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: More right for, Sure well will you? Will let you

1182
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: do your?

1183
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: THING i did sort of tease a, sponsorship a co

1184
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 2: sponsorship that we could. Have now it's not as good

1185
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: as a Potential scotch, sponsorship which would be more. Interesting

1186
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: BUT i saw you rocking These socani's on the basketbud

1187
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: set The ATHLETIC nba. Show i'm a soccany man, myself

1188
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: and these are, buttes these are. Classics we got to

1189
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: get people on the horn here at The athletic to

1190
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: guess this socn eat deal because you, know these ARE

1191
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: i don't know if these are called The Jazz retros

1192
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: or something that you're rocking here we're showing them to

1193
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: you on. YouTube but they're pretty and that's. Why that's

1194
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 2: why they had you on the end of the, set

1195
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: so they could show off your legs and show off those.

1196
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 3: Sockets that's, RIGHT i don't skip leg, day.

1197
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 4: Guys those are those are the The Sokany jazz low.

1198
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: BRO i THINK i have like fifteen.

1199
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: Pairs you, know they're they're, comfortable, nice uh zero drop

1200
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 4: shoes and, Yeah i've been working on A soccany sponsorship

1201
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 4: for about two years. NOW i always hit up my

1202
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 4: Friend Mike, sykes WHO i don't know if you guys,

1203
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 4: follow but he's a great shoe shoe follow, guy SO

1204
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: i hit him up all the time and, Yeah.

1205
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: Soccany holler at your, boy come, ON i wear these.

1206
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 4: Things, yeah they're they're, comfortable they're they're, colorful and they're

1207
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 4: fun and they're not.

1208
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: Expensive great. Shoes look we got. Nice we're on vacation mode.

1209
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 5: Now, YEAH i was gonna say it looks like you

1210
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 5: need a pair of socks to go with the soccans

1211
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 5: there as well in THE u in that fight with

1212
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 5: just the ankle socks in, there or you going.

1213
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 6: Sockless, yeah it's too sweaty around. Here come, on, yeah

1214
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 6: just blow your. Sup, yeah but this IS i, mean

1215
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 6: it's a fun. Time and, yeah we definitely put me

1216
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 6: on the end to show my legs.

1217
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 3: Off come.

1218
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: On, well we appreciate your, Time.

1219
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: Dave any social media, plugs anything else you want to

1220
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 2: plug other than your love for, Sockeys.

1221
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 4: No, no just subscribe to The. Athletic leave a five

1222
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: star review for this. Podcast you. Know, YEAH I i'm

1223
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 4: bad at. Plugging everybody knows Where i'm at And i'm

1224
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: on every podcast, here so turn on An athletic podcast

1225
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 4: and you'll hear.

1226
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: Me.

1227
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: Probably, well we appreciate you coming, on, man really really

1228
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: appreciate the. Time enjoy your last day or. Two you

1229
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: said you're driving.

1230
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: Out, Yeah i'm gonna. Drive i've been hitting.

1231
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 4: UP i move all the, time SO i collect friends

1232
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 4: in a lot of places and it's been nice to

1233
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 4: be able to pop through and you, know drink a

1234
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: beer outside with my with my.

1235
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: Buddies it's you, know.

1236
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: Hopefully we're moving back to, normal although it doesn't feel like.

1237
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 4: It but you, KNOW i, KNOW i, hope So i'm

1238
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: hopeful for the fall that people are going to turn this.

1239
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 4: AROUND i, mean it takes us to do, it you,

1240
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: know but it's been good for me to be able

1241
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 4: to stretch my legs a little.

1242
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: Bit i'm a road trip.

1243
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: GUY i, mean you guys, KNOW i was In, atlanta

1244
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 4: what was, It december of, nineteen right on another road.

1245
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: Trip SO i need these road. Trips so let's straighten this.

1246
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 4: Out let's get back to, normal right.

1247
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: On.

1248
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: Man hopefully we are having another beer In atlanta. Soon

1249
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: hopefully you come. Through we do love plugging stuff here

1250
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 2: on the, show So i'm gonna plug Our fast And furious.

1251
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: Series these guys will be dropping another one this. Week

1252
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: fast And furious number Three formula one show coming Up

1253
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: apple exclusive on The hall Of fame Body, parts so

1254
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: make sure you tune in for. That thanks so much

1255
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: for tuning into. This now it's time for The clipper.

1256
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: Bros you heard it here.

1257
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: First have a great time turn. Up love you guys.

1258
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 5: Awesome thanks for joining, us, everybody and, remember let's hope

1259
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 5: that this season Ball ball is more than just a

1260
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 5: role role.

1261
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: Player Embrace Summer league, People Thanks, Dave thank.

1262
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 4: You you could stay oh every day.

1263
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: And, day, happy every.

1264
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 5: Minute it's been.

1265
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: So long that you're the Fun i've waiting.

1266
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 3: For it's happened.

1267
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: Already it's gonna be.

1268
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 4: Grivvy