WEBVTT - Tricia Helfer

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<v Speaker 1>But I was I was like really trying to downplay

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<v Speaker 1>that at the time because at the time there was

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<v Speaker 1>no kind of crossover model turned out, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>model turned act. It was kind of a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like you can't You're probably not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to act if you're a model type thing. So, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I really did downplay it a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you downplay I don't I mean, what like you,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't wash your hair for a week or like

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<v Speaker 2>what like you.

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<v Speaker 3>I would always go in with like, well, you know

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<v Speaker 3>it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It has hurt me in many ways my height because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost six week tall.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm five eleve so that I'm taller, don't don't

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<v Speaker 2>get braggy, I'm taller.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, I'm Trisha Halfer and I am certifiably the mother

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<v Speaker 1>of cats and goats, and I'm moonlight as an actor

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<v Speaker 1>and a model.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, everybody, welcome back here to another episode of Off

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<v Speaker 2>the Beat. I am once again your host, Brian Bumgartner.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you've probably heard that classic Hollywood story about someone

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<v Speaker 2>being discovered while just going about their daily life. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>They're at a grocery store and an agent comes up

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<v Speaker 2>and says, hey, there we've got to get you to

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood be in the movies. My experience, this is many

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<v Speaker 2>years of meetings and interviewing many many actors. That doesn't happen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it is just not how things work. You

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<v Speaker 2>do not get noticed at a grocery store. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>fairy tale. It's a myth. But I guess fairy tales

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<v Speaker 2>do come true, because it did happen for my guest today,

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<v Speaker 2>Tricia Helfer, at a movie theater in Canada, mind you,

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<v Speaker 2>so there you go, And whoever discovered her at that

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<v Speaker 2>movie theater was either very perceptive or very lucky, because

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, Tricia is a true talent. She's gone on

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<v Speaker 2>to have a very successful modeling career on runways all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world, then moved on to acting, where she

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<v Speaker 2>has played favorites like Number six on Battlestar Galactica, Dracula

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<v Speaker 2>in the sci fi series Van Helsing, and many more. So, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>pat Scout got lucky when they saw her at the

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<v Speaker 2>movie theater, But now we're all lucky because we get

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<v Speaker 2>to see her perform in all of her spectacular roles.

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what, I feel lucky to have her here. Today.

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<v Speaker 2>Here she is my new friend, Tricia Helfer Bubblin Squeak.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it bubblin squea gano, bubble and squeaker, cooking

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<v Speaker 4>every move over from the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninefo Hi, Tricia, Hello, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing good? Thank you. I'm pleased to be here

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<v Speaker 3>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you so much for coming in and having

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<v Speaker 2>a little chat with me today. Where are you where? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What city are you in?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not in a city actually, and you're from Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>You're from Georgia, right, you might you might go, you

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<v Speaker 1>might know where I am. Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually I'm in Chattahoochee.

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<v Speaker 2>Hills Chatahoochie Hills. Yeah, so I lived well that's an exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a like two minute walk down the hill

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<v Speaker 2>from the Chatahoochee River. So the Chattahooche Hills. What is

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<v Speaker 2>that like north Atlanta? North of Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 3>That south?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually is it's south like an hour south of city,

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<v Speaker 1>so like twenty five minutes south of the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>Are do you live there now?

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had a midlife crisis in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one and just backed up and without even thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>anything and moved. So yes, since since fall of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one live. I live here now, but I'm I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to come back to.

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<v Speaker 2>La Okay, But but do you like it?

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's not to start off a fun and negative.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, no, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's been a I do love it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I live out on twenty five acres.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I literally just changed lifestyle and and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been you know, it's it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I missed my friends, I miss being you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I moved here not knowing anyone, right, So, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I moved here and my mom died and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>got Alzheimer's and I uninjured my knee and was out

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<v Speaker 1>of work for a year and hobbling around and Jesus, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it couldn't be physical, couldn't go hiking, couldn't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And then the strike happened, and then now

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<v Speaker 1>here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you move and just your life goes to shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Oh I got you could say whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want. Oh my god, that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to not base it off of like the move,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's what made everything go bad. Oh god, logically

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<v Speaker 3>I know that's not.

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<v Speaker 2>The case, but well, It's very interesting. I mean, you've

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<v Speaker 2>kind of written a perfect transition for me, because now

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<v Speaker 2>you're there in rural Georgia, twenty five acres sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a farm to me. You grew up on a farm.

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<v Speaker 3>I did in rural.

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<v Speaker 2>Rural, by the way, is one of the hardest words

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<v Speaker 2>for me to say personally, and the fact that I

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<v Speaker 2>just did it twice in the same sentence is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh in Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>A I did?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Get it? A get it? Yeah? Yeah? All right, So

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<v Speaker 2>you worked on a farm when you were a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>earned some money working on a farm, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely did. I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually just there visiting my family last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I grew up on a farm, working farm.

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<v Speaker 1>My grand my grandparents started the farm, and my father

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<v Speaker 1>was born and raised on a farm, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>was my I never had an after school job aside

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<v Speaker 1>from being a farm hand, so I grew up driving

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<v Speaker 1>tractors and fixing farm machinery and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do you have animals? Now? Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a garden.

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<v Speaker 3>I do have a garden.

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<v Speaker 1>I have six cats, which I brought with me from

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<v Speaker 1>la and I have two goats.

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<v Speaker 2>Goats that qualifies as a farm. If you have a goat,

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<v Speaker 2>then that equals farm. Like do you, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>do you milk the goats? Like what are the goats do?

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<v Speaker 2>Do the goats help keep the grass down? Do they

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<v Speaker 2>do you play with them? Like? What what do you

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<v Speaker 2>do with the goats?

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<v Speaker 3>They're boys, so milking them would be a different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's awkward. Okay, I took I took a gamble.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Do people milk goats if they have goats?

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<v Speaker 3>They do. There's a neighbor's mine.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a bunch of goats and she milks them,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has a little farm stand and she makes okay,

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<v Speaker 1>goat cheese and all the all the stuff that is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's way too much work for me. Mine are just spoiled,

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<v Speaker 1>little you know. They get their fresh apple in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and carrots in the evening, and they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday I got the hoofs trimmed, and yeah, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just a little spoiled rescues.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now, when you go back to LA, are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring the goats?

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<v Speaker 3>That's my plan?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know, I'm actually thinking of looking at places

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<v Speaker 1>like Woodland Hills, or even carts. Mensino are zoned for

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<v Speaker 1>farm animals, so goat friendly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think i'd be smacked at in Beverly Hills,

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<v Speaker 3>where I was before.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I went from studios, I went, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>Laurel Canyon to Beverly Hills like a Coldwater Canyon to

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<v Speaker 1>Sherman Oaks Canyon in my many years there, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they do very well there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, probably not. So you were you did farm work?

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<v Speaker 2>What were you interested in as a kid?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you watching movies? Television? I know you're in Canada,

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<v Speaker 2>but you must have access to American shows there or

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<v Speaker 2>not so much?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, no, they do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's not it is the Great White North,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not so far removed that it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't get all all the American shows

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<v Speaker 1>because they do certainly limit different stations, right yea, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had no TV growing up, so I really

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<v Speaker 1>did not grow up with any access to movies or

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<v Speaker 1>television or anything like that. So we saw very few

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<v Speaker 1>movies and I was I was allowed to go over

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<v Speaker 1>and watch hockey games. My grandparents had a TV that

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<v Speaker 1>had like four stations and I was allowed to go

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<v Speaker 1>over and watch hockey games because I was a big

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<v Speaker 1>Edmonton Olers fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Last nights congratulations, Yes, very good. Yes, I'm happy for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I didn't really you know, I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was interested in volleyball and school and so sports.

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<v Speaker 2>More stories. Yeah, okay, Now rumor has it that you

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<v Speaker 2>were approached at a movie theater? Now was this in

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<v Speaker 2>Canada about being a model? Is this right?

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<v Speaker 3>That that is correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was in the nearest town that had a

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<v Speaker 1>movie theater, like a one room theater, Stetler, Alberta. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the town has about forty five hundred people

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<v Speaker 1>something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, so I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was actually a girl that had gone to

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<v Speaker 1>school with my older sister, and she was doing some

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<v Speaker 1>local modeling for this agent, Kelly Strait, who was who

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<v Speaker 1>was only twenty four himself when he started, and he

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<v Speaker 1>used to scout for Ford models in New York and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she asked, and I said, absolutely not. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is obviously pre cell phones and pre right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Google and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But she gave him my parents' number.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of course there's the Yellow Pages, and so he

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<v Speaker 1>called and I was goaded on by my volleyball teammates,

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<v Speaker 1>okay to go see him the next time I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the city, and so I did, and like literally

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<v Speaker 1>about a month or two later, I was in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, So wait a second. So I'm so this

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<v Speaker 2>is so interesting to me because you're saying it like

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<v Speaker 2>this is a matter of fact. But there are talent

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<v Speaker 2>there's talent scouts in Stetler, Alberta, Canada that are like

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<v Speaker 2>legit recruiting for like legit modeling jobs in New York City. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is surprising. This would be like Atlanta back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day. Now Atlanta is different. But if it was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to be a model? I would think

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<v Speaker 2>you know that that would that would well they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>ask me. But you know what I'm saying, like that

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<v Speaker 2>that I wouldn't have thought that was legit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I did. Again, it wasn't him that was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Although he is also from a small town, he lives

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<v Speaker 1>in Calgary now, so he has just always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in Alberta. He could have gone to any of

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, New York, he could have been an

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<v Speaker 1>agent anywhere, and he's just always been partial to staying

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<v Speaker 1>where he grew up.

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<v Speaker 3>But he did.

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<v Speaker 1>He he really was. He's an interesting guy. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>a very good eye for the modeling business right and

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<v Speaker 1>and what is working and everything at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>just but he if he had probably approached me, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have been way too shy, and because he's quite

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<v Speaker 1>he's quite energetic and quite quite a personality.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was a girl that went to school with

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<v Speaker 3>my older sister.

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<v Speaker 1>So I knew her okay, and you know, i'd known

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<v Speaker 1>her for years. And she said she was in Calgary

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<v Speaker 1>doing you know, at university and had met and was

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<v Speaker 1>doing some local modeling and that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So it might have been a different story if he

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<v Speaker 3>had approached me.

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<v Speaker 2>So within a couple of months, you're in You're in

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<v Speaker 2>New York City m hm, and you're so what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing, like you're immediately starting to get jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this was between grade eleven and grade twelve. So

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<v Speaker 3>I went.

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<v Speaker 1>He set me up to go, and I actually stayed

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<v Speaker 1>at Eileen Ford's house or her apartment, and I went

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<v Speaker 1>to New York for five days to get some pictures

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<v Speaker 1>so they they he had he took some pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>me and he sent them to for New York and

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<v Speaker 1>they said we want her, and so I went there

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<v Speaker 1>and did some test.

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<v Speaker 3>Shoots they had set up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you have to get photos r right to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to show. And then he had organized me

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<v Speaker 1>to be with an agency in Montreal. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>only in New York the first time for five days

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<v Speaker 1>and I went from there to Montreal, where an agency

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<v Speaker 1>started putting me out in the Montreal market for three weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was gone for like for a month basically.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember, I just I did all these like

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<v Speaker 1>Bridal magazines.

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<v Speaker 3>I was six sixteen seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, yeah, I was young for.

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<v Speaker 1>That seventeen and just doing all these Bridal magazines and

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<v Speaker 1>I look at them now, and my mom has them

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<v Speaker 1>all still and.

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<v Speaker 3>Or had them all still, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it's they're so funny to see that time

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<v Speaker 1>period and the Bridal magazines. But yeah, So I went

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<v Speaker 1>there and with the guys of kind of just with

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of just kind of seeing what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>what it was like and then going back to grade twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went, and I remember specifically I made thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollars in three weeks. And I went back

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<v Speaker 1>to grade twelve, and then I was like, maybe I should.

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<v Speaker 3>Give this a track. I liked it to go to Milan.

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<v Speaker 1>They want me to go to Paris, Like, maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>should try this, and so I did my first semester

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then I packed up and I left.

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<v Speaker 3>I left before graduating.

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<v Speaker 2>And you were based then in New York or you

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<v Speaker 2>just went wherever you had to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I went to Milan first for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months, and then I went to Paris, and then

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly moved my base, like within a year, moved

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<v Speaker 1>my base to New York. I just I'm much more

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<v Speaker 1>of a kind of New York mentality than living in Paris.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like living in Paris at that time. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>love it, love visiting it now, but I didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>it as a seventeen eighteen year old. I found it

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<v Speaker 1>very kind of difficult to get to get by in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen ninety two, you won the Ford Supermodel of the

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<v Speaker 2>World contest. Supermodel of the World is I mean that's.

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<v Speaker 3>A title, it's a statement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a kind of I kind of just glazed

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<v Speaker 1>right over that. That was between Milan and Paris.

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<v Speaker 2>They uh, oh so even before oh so, just based

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<v Speaker 2>on your first time and then going to Milan, you're

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<v Speaker 2>now the supermodel of the year, says Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they hazy right back in the back in the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineties. I think in the eighties and nineties, they

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<v Speaker 1>had these things, these these I mean, for lack of

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<v Speaker 1>a better word, pageant. I've never been a pageant person,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is a modeling competition, right. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>you do runway and you do photo shoots and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But they had these two hour specials on TV, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was a thing, you know, and they Ford had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I lean forward, had just chosen me the

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<v Speaker 1>winner of Canada instead of doing it a search, but

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<v Speaker 1>they just chose out of a bunch of people and

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<v Speaker 1>announced me as the Canadian winner. When I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Milan the first time, when I first left home to

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<v Speaker 1>really get this try, and I didn't even know like

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I didn't enter myself. So I then went

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<v Speaker 1>to la to do the international competition and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a two week you tape for two weeks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all this type of stuff, and I won that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was that title was a blessing and a curse,

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<v Speaker 1>because it definitely helped kickstart. You know, I went straight

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<v Speaker 1>from their Paris for fashion Week, and I remember meeting

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Lagerfeld at Chanel for the first time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had a camera crew with me because I had just won,

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<v Speaker 1>so there was a you know, camera crew following me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm you know, I've just turned eighteen and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>this shy Canadian farm girl, and but I had a

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<v Speaker 1>camera crew, which is probably the only reason he hired

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<v Speaker 1>me for the show.

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<v Speaker 3>But then, you know, so things like that helped.

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<v Speaker 1>But then other times I remember meeting I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>who it was, but it was somebody at Vogue and

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<v Speaker 1>I walked in and of course on your card, your

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<v Speaker 1>composite card, it says forts new Fall of the World.

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<v Speaker 1>And they just look at me and like, oh, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're a supermodel, Like you have no pictures. Basically you're

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<v Speaker 1>brand new. You're a supermodel.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, I didn't name it and.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not get that job. So it was a

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<v Speaker 3>blessing and accurse.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the I mean basically, any top fashion outlet

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<v Speaker 2>that I have heard of you have either done shows

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<v Speaker 2>for or ads for. How long were you intensive and

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<v Speaker 2>more specifically, what made you begin to think about doing

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<v Speaker 2>something else, I e.

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<v Speaker 3>Acting at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I probably did it for ten years, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen to twenty seven. I think I moved to La

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<v Speaker 1>around I have to do the math, but around twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven or twenty eight, and it had been a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years before that where I could start. I had

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<v Speaker 1>started to see my career starting to be, like I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't getting booked for the top fashion shows anymore, and

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<v Speaker 1>that there's much more diversity in all ranges, but also

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<v Speaker 1>age in the modeling business now, not at the for

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<v Speaker 1>the regular editorials and things, but for the campaigns, and

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<v Speaker 1>you will see some of the older models, even older

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<v Speaker 1>than me, having a resurgence and that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, you really there really was an expiration day.

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood has a bit of that as well, but more

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<v Speaker 1>so in the modeling business at the time. So it

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<v Speaker 1>really was because it hadn't been it hadn't been a

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<v Speaker 1>dream of mine. It turned out to be a wonderful career,

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing opportunity that I'm really lucky, you know, fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>to have had. But it wasn't It wasn't like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't grow up with reading fashion magazines and wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, so to me, it was always a business.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe that's why I was able to see a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit early on like Okay, I have to I

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<v Speaker 1>have to figure out how to set myself up for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't want a family. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get married and have a family and go down

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<v Speaker 1>that route.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna have to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out something else to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I mean your math I think is pretty spot on.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you moved to Los Angeles and you pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>immediately begin booking some television jobs. What did you do

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<v Speaker 2>to prepare for that? Was it just like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is something else that I want to do, or was

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<v Speaker 2>there something specifically about acting that you wanted to give

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<v Speaker 2>a try, and then what did you do to prepare

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<v Speaker 2>yourself for it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I I thought for a while that I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what about like reporting.

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<v Speaker 3>I had done some kind of correspondent report, hosting or

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<v Speaker 3>a fashion file that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so I had done a few segments and things,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I just realized, even you're in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the camera there, I kind of like being the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is a little selfish or narcissistic, but I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like being the topic, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, right, right right, Tell me it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And that I'm kind of making fun of myself there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean it necessarily like that, but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't catch me right, And so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't I take an acting class. I had never

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<v Speaker 1>done anything like that again, grew up without watching really anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought, even if it helps me with commercial auditions.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the only commercial editions I did at the

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<v Speaker 1>time were beauty beauty commercials, right, I wasn't going out

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<v Speaker 1>for anything else, but maybe it'll help me in that

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<v Speaker 1>in that respect, And I got into an acting class.

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<v Speaker 1>My my commercial agent suggested some places and I called

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<v Speaker 1>around and nobody answered the phone. And one place answered

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, and this was a Friday, and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an advanced on camera on Monday that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>just dropped out of because they got a play. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you come in Monday afternoon, read this little you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one page script, we'll see and the class starts that night.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went in and I think probably because they

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<v Speaker 1>had the space available and that was it. But they

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<v Speaker 1>took me and I started class that night, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember I went home to my I lived with

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend at the time, and I just went home

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<v Speaker 1>and I went.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was terrified, right, and I had never been through therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I remember saying walking in, going.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I've just had a therapy session. I

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<v Speaker 3>just feel like I've like I've been terrified, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like I've released some stuff, right, And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>started it. It was Penny Templeton Studios in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I took her on camera class and

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<v Speaker 1>then I took her ongoing and wanted me to take

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<v Speaker 1>their masterclass, and I took that while I continue to model.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I did that for about a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half and then I was like, okay, I'm moving

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<v Speaker 1>to LA and I just packed up and moved to LA.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about you, not having met you, but

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<v Speaker 2>sort of looking over your history before and there's something

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<v Speaker 2>like you had such a career and although not as

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<v Speaker 2>an actor, it was forward facing in a way. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much in our business that is about being relaxed,

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<v Speaker 2>being poised, that you're comfortable in an environment and the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you had so many years on the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>stages in the world performing in some way, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>to me, so tell me if I'm right or wrong

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<v Speaker 2>that that had to have prepared you in a certain way.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't know how to create characters, maybe in terms of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, taking a script and analyzing it and figuring

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<v Speaker 2>out what the character is doing, but in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>those like exterior things which so many gifted trained actors

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<v Speaker 2>miss out on. That on just being comfortable enough to

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<v Speaker 2>be let the person know that you know what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Does this make any sense at all to you?

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<v Speaker 3>It does, And I think.

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<v Speaker 1>There's different elements I think to it, right, Like, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>I was a very shy kid, so modeling and being

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<v Speaker 1>in that world and being in front of the camera

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<v Speaker 1>even though your crews are much smaller, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>few people, five to ten people maximum, right, compared to

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe sometimes down to two or three or a

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<v Speaker 1>or a you know Vasaci fashion show where you're in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a lot of people. But you definitely had

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<v Speaker 1>to become more comfortable being in front of people and

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<v Speaker 1>that helped one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, There's parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Of me that have always felt like a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a not a fraud, but it's like I do

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<v Speaker 1>still walk into some job sometimes like a very apprehensive

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's it's usually until the first take or

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<v Speaker 1>two and then you're it just kicks in or everything

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense or or something. But because I didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>to act, you know, I really didn't go to a

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<v Speaker 1>big acting school. I haven't done plays, I haven't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't grow up watching TV.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't it or movies. I'm not well versed in

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<v Speaker 3>that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always felt like I don't know a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people. People talk about all these different old

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<v Speaker 1>movies and things like that, and it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just over my head.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've just had and granted, I could go and

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<v Speaker 1>study more, and I could go and obviously watch things

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<v Speaker 1>more than I do, but then I fall back on

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<v Speaker 1>the well, sometimes it's just about people watching and some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of natural abilities maybe the wrong word, but natural

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<v Speaker 1>something too.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when I was a kid, I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to go into psychology.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what gets me about about our business, is

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<v Speaker 1>getting into the psychology.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the character.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it didn't really answer your question.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, No, no, I mean I mean it sort of did.

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean in terms of what interests you, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, that's what's interesting to me. I just

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, there's something about and look you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to I mean, I literally don't know anything about high fashion,

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>but I know enough to know it's got to be

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 2>exposing in a way. And again not just physically, I mean,

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 2>but you're putting yourself out there. You're presenting, you know,

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 2>in your case, a lot of of high fashion, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much scrutiny, and there's so much judgment, and

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 2>there's so much physical hands on manipulating garment. That just

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<v Speaker 2>had to have given you an advantage starting out, just

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<v Speaker 2>just being who you are in the place, having done

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<v Speaker 2>what you did, because those things are the are some

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<v Speaker 2>of the most difficult things when you're starting out, like

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 2>hitting your hitting your mark, suddenly performing with I mean

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 2>you say your crew was smaller when you're doing a

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<v Speaker 2>shoot or whatever, but doing it in front of twenty

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>five people, thirty people, fifty people, you know, whatever it

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 2>is that's on a set. I don't know. There's just

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<v Speaker 2>something fascinating to me about that. And I haven't really

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<v Speaker 2>engaged in that conversation with someone before, but that just

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<v Speaker 2>had to have given you an advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>It did, because you're used to being in front of

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the camera's or having people's attention on you. Right, the

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 1>whole room is looking at you, and that can be

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<v Speaker 1>very disconcerting. Yes, And it was when I first started modeling,

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>when you know, when I was seventeen eighteen, I was

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>it was terrifying to have everybody look at me. Yes,

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, you're like and you're not quite sure,

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a gawky teenager. Still well, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>quite sure what you're supposed to be doing with your body.

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>You're not really right, you learn, you know, modeling is

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>performing as well. Like you said earlier, it is. You

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 1>can have the most beautiful woman, so to speak, that

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 1>walks down the street, but she can't translate that in

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>front of a camera, right, So it doesn't it's not

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>just about beauty or society's beauty or whatever that is, right.

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Kelly, My old modeling age we call a bone structure,

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 3>whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to be able to translate that and

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<v Speaker 1>and be able to translate the tone that the photographer

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and the magazine or whatever is looking for. And that's

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>also in film, right, because you have different tones. Be

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>within comedy, you have different tones. Within drama, you have

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>different tones. And also just having being used to having

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the eyeballs all focused on you, and a lot of

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>them not sometimes not happy with what you're doing necessarily

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>of course, all the time. You know, you you don't

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<v Speaker 1>perform the best all the time or every take or

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>every snap of the camera.

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, so you have to.

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Be willing to mess up and be willing to make

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<v Speaker 1>an ass of yourself and not let it destroy you.

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Shortly after you move to LA, you take your

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>acting classes, you move to LA, you get a role

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 2>on Showtime's Jeremiah. What was it like being on set

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, it was awful. I got fired from that job.

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>You did, so my first ever acting job I got

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<v Speaker 1>fired from.

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 2>That's happened. It happens everybody.

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I was still modeling at the time.

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I was still living in New York, and I remember,

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it was summer of two thousand and one,

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and I had was in LA for a modeling job

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and my commercial agent knew that I had wanted to start,

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was acting classes and I had planned

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<v Speaker 1>on moving at the end of the year. I think

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I looked at houses and everything, and so they said, oh,

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>there's this audition. Stay an extra day and go in

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>on this audition. So I did, and it was Jeremiah

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 1>and it was for the lead female role.

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 3>And flew back to New York and they wanted to

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 3>test me.

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know what a studio test was, right,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>So they fly me back out.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 3>I test. They don't take any of us.

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>There's four four women similar look whatever, they didn't take

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>any of us. Cut to I'm back in New York.

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Nine to eleven happens. I drive down after about a week.

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I had a place in Jupiter au On in Florida.

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm down in Florida and I get the call, You're

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>You're hired. You have to be in Vancouver in like

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>two days for four months.

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Now. I got to get on my get on a plane.

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 3>That I'm terrified.

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've just watched the towers fall from my apartment.

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've driven down with two cats, and I've

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>got to get by myself with two cats, back up

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and pack up.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 3>And leave for four months. That all happens.

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>And I get to Vancouver and it was Luke Perry

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and Malcolm Jamal Warner and they were lovely. My character

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>is introduced at the very end of a two hour

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>pilot to then be part of the series, right right.

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>They're searching for this valhalla, this this place, and they

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>finally find it at the end of the two hour pilot.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I get there and the showrunner won't even like look

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>at me. He's so unhappy that the studio has.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Forced you on all.

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and this was my first introduction to the business.

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Like he wanted nothing of my type at all, you know,

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to explain what he wanted, but

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<v Speaker 1>something that I could not be.

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:16.479
<v Speaker 3>Ever okay, right, yes, and they ended up.

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I remember he said that I was nerve. I had

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>one scene and the scene was fine, Like we used

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>it on my reel.

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 3>It was good, there was nothing wrong with it, right,

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 3>and Luke Perry.

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Years later, I ran into Luke Perry at like comic

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Con Warner Brothers party and.

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 3>He was like, yeah, that was so mess you know,

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 3>messed up and whatever.

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>But he used the fact that I was off in

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the corner prepping, as I had been told in Penny

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Templeton studio was like prepping to do an emotional scene,

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and he said that I was I was just way

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.239
<v Speaker 1>too nervous and whatever. But I was like I and

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>she's like off in the corner whatever, and I was

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I was preparing the scene was fine, and but I

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>get fed and they don't replace me, they just can

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the character completely and then lo and behold, he gets

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>what he wants.

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Like a few episodes later, I watched it and there

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 3>was a character that he was wanting.

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>So it all worked out fine. But you know things,

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>at the time, it was very hard to take and

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.719
<v Speaker 1>to accept. But if I had done that, I wouldn't

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>have then been available to do Battlestar Galactica. That went

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>two seasons, and I wouldn't have been able to do

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it because it crossed over a year. Yeah, so I'm

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to tell my sell myself now that that same thing,

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.239
<v Speaker 1>when my career is in the crapper and I'm am

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I ever gonna work again, I'm trying to remind myself

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>of that.

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Well. Yeah, I mean, look, you did get and you

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 2>said went a couple of seasons Battlestar Galactica, your character

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 2>number six, not only Battlestar Galactica becomes a huge epic

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>press getting show of various incarnations across what do they

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>call it, across the in perpetuity throughout the universe. There

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 2>you go, I finally got it. That's the phrase they

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 2>always use. Not just that, but you play a character

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:19.959
<v Speaker 2>that gets to play different variations of themselves, which is

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 2>literally an actor's dream. Talk to me a little bit

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 2>about well, first off, getting that, so after you go

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 2>from the disappointment of Jeremiah to get to landing this

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>this role of number six on Battlestar Galactica.

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I had been in La about a year at that point,

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>so it was and it was, you know, I had

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>done a couple of things. I had done a couple

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 1>of guest stars and you know, right, and in an

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>indie movie and yeah, I just it was I think

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I had done a guest star for CSI Vegas season two,

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that's how long ago was and the finale.

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 3>And it was.

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>The casting director that remembered me from that show that

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>then pulled me in to read for the producers of Battlestar.

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Wait a second, it's uh cher Dean. Yes, I was

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>on CSIS. You said, CSI Vegas. That's just CSI.

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>That's the original.

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the og the O G. Yes, what did you

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 2>play on there?

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I played a model, so I was the victim and

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I actually auditioned. There was this two sisters, the model

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and her sister, and I auditioned for the sister and

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember they called me back in and they said, look,

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>there's two that's we want you these two. But you

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>look like you could be a model. She doesn't, so

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>at least at that time, that sounds true.

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I didn't mean it.

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 1>They said it, so we need you to play the

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>role that has no lines.

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, but the fact that they the fact that

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 2>they said it looks like you could be a model,

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 2>were you were exactly?

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 3>But I was.

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like really trying to downplay that at the

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>time because at the time there was no kind of

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 1>crossover model turned out, you know, like model turned act.

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of a bad thing, and it's like

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't you're probably not going to be able to

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>act if you're a model type thing. So, right, I

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>really did downplay it a lot.

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 2>How do you downplay I don't, I mean, what like you,

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't wash your hair for a week or like

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 2>what like you.

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I would always go in with like, well, you know

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>it does it has hurt me in many ways my

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>height because I'm almost six feet tall, right.

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm five le so that I'm taller, don't don't get braggy,

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm taller.

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 3>I love when somebody's taller.

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.760
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know for men, if it ever hurts

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you that you're tall. But you know, we all get

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>we all get put in boxes of what you can

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>play in which you couldn't play.

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 3>But this was actually quite a difficult role.

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Because even though yeah, she was a model and she

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:10.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any lines, she had body dysmorphic disorder. Okay,

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 1>so there was quite a few scenes and and she

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>ultimately gets toxic shocks in Rome from like cutting herself

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and that type of thing, and and nobody killed her.

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 3>She died herself. But okay, yeah, so what did you play?

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Dog Man?

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Dog Man? Dog walker dressed up as a furry.

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>That's it right there, that's it. Yes, I didn't even

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 2>know what it was at the time, I'll be honest

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 2>with you, but it was explained to me in great

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 2>detail what a furry is and likes to be. Uh, yeah,

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 2>that was it, all right? He got totally off topic.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I just love I just I just love comparing CSI stories.

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.399
<v Speaker 2>And actually before we move on, because I do want

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Star Galactica, but I do want to

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 2>what what were you in? Uh? I didn't I'm sorry,

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't watch the episode. What were you in? Criminal Minds?

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Were you a killer or are you a victim? There too?

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>It was a two episode bank robbing. I was an

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:23.399
<v Speaker 1>international uh, internationally sought criminal okay, and I and I yeah,

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>held a bank hostage.

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Well so then so there you go. So I

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 2>do want to talk about this before we talk about

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 2>you actually like being a star on a serious regular part.

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 2>I often talk about for pragmatic reasons that Criminal Minds

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 2>was one of the hardest jobs I ever did in

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>television because because you're a guest star, right, But it

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 2>sounds like you had the same situation that I did,

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>where you go in and and functionally like you are

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>the lead. It's your story, Yes, you or the protagonist.

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 2>That's the word I was looking for for those episodes.

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 2>And so you're your energy sort of is guiding the

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. Yet everybody else has been there for like

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 2>fourteen years or whatever it is, and the crew knows

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 2>them and they don't know you it's just a very

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 2>odd feeling thing. And also my very first day was

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.959
<v Speaker 2>like we shot the final scene and it was on

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 2>the docks in Long Beach Harbor from eight pm to

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 2>seven am. Oh yes, and I was like, what is

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 2>going on here? It was like crazy. But anyway, it's tough, right,

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 2>That is a tough job.

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Guest starring is a tough job, because you're right,

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you come into a well oiled machine where everybody knows

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>each other and you know you're in the business long enough,

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you know. It's more often that when you do

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>come on and guests are on something, you end up

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 1>knowing crew you've worked with before, and that starts to

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>really change everything. And it also depends on the cast

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>you're with, because there I've gone on a guest starret

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>on some things where it's just I've had the most

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>amazing experience, and then I've had gone in and guest

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 1>starred where You're like, Okay, I'm clearly made to feel

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>like I'm the odd met.

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Out like lunch in my trailer today, please lunch? Yeah?

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>All right. So back to Battlestar Galacticat you auditioned for

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 2>number six, was this an exhaustive audition process. Did you

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.240
<v Speaker 2>have multiple steps or was this was this easier?

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, I had multiple steps.

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I remember specifically it was January sixth that I went

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 1>in because I was given the script right before Christmas

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and I took it home with me and it was

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>for the miniseries.

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:50.720
<v Speaker 3>It was a big script.

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>And I came back and I auditioned and then they

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>said it went really well, but you know, they're not

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>making up any minds, and I was still really like

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 1>almost no credits, right, So I think they were looking

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>for a name or they were you know, and I

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>think i'd also heard it some points they were thinking

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of maybe having this character kind of CGI, which in

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that time period also was a little bit newer, harder

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to do, and and it wasn't. It was like two

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>months later that they came back. So I just thought

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>it was gone. Poof, it's one of you know, it's

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>one you didn't get. But it was one of those

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't get rid of the script. The script

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>was still you know, I'm I'm I could be a

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit petty if I don't get something. It's like

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I might not watch the show, or I might you know,

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 1>throw out the script whatever.

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I can be a little petty, but.

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't just sat there on the corner of

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:48.839
<v Speaker 1>my desk and cut to I think it was two

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>months later, it was in March, and they called me

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>back in and I went back in, and then they

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>said the next day I was going to test for it,

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and I had to do a work and maybe it

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the next day, but I had to do a

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>work session, which I'd never done a work session before,

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and went through that process and then tested and it

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>was a full like, oh gosh, at least half to

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I think we got there at eight thirty in the

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:17.959
<v Speaker 1>morning and I don't think we were released till about

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>two pm.

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And I remember, you know, just pairing. It was probably

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>like eight or nine guys and gals and for the

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 1>number six in baltar role, and I don't I don't

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>remember much of it. We all went in separately, and

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>then they got rid of some people, which is.

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 2>So awkward, so awkward.

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.280
<v Speaker 1>And then they started pairing us up and I remember

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>James and I James Callus, who played balltar, went in

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and he remembers this. He remembers hearing somebody in the

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>room say that's it, but I don't.

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember that.

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I just remember thinking, well, now I'm definitely not going

0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>to get it because I tower above him, and at

0:41:59.239 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>this point.

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea what I've done.

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>At one point, I think it was I think it

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 1>was Robert all Right came up to me and he's like,

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>just because they keep giving everybody gives you notes and

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody and by the time you go back in, it's

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>like fifteen people have given you notes. You're going back

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>in for the fourth time. And it must have just

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>shone on my face, like I was like a deer

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>in the headlights. And he just took me aside in

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the hallway and just said, just go back to what

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you did in.

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 3>The room when you came in to see me.

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Just forget about everything and just go back to what

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you came in here with. And I guess that's what

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I attempted to do. But I remember thinking, I tower

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>over James. I'm never going to.

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Get this for ale. So it started as a mini series.

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a We shot him for our mini

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:52.959
<v Speaker 1>series in the spring of two thousand and three, and

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>then we didn't go back to start filming the series,

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>which started with an episode called thirty three in until

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:01.879
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Wow full series movies, on and on and on. Have

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you ever heard the phrase bears.

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Big Battlestar Galactica. Yes, from the office.

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Well we have a little kinship there from the show

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 2>because as it sounds like, you know, our good friend

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Rain Wilson aka Dwight was a big Battlestar Galactica fan.

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I hope everybody considered that to be endearing. I mean

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 2>it was Dwight absolutely.

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 3>Did you hear that?

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Was that the same episode or was there another Was

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>there another place where something about you watch Battlestar galacticat

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>know what you're dumb or something like that, there was

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:49.360
<v Speaker 1>another Yeah, or was that from the same episode.

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think that was different. But I

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 2>think he had that, he had the T shirt. He

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 2>was very clearly a big uh. So it got a

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of discussion I will say on our real live

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>set at the time as well. It was It was

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a big It was a big show on our set.

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 2>What are you most thankful for out of that experience?

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, your first big time show multiple years but

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 2>really sort of launches you. But what for you is

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>your sort of memory.

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I know it's going to sound kind of corny to say,

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>but the people, you know, I had moved to LA

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and really didn't know. I moved there not knowing anybody,

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and a year later got Battle Star and it was

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>just one of those experiences where it was such a

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.880
<v Speaker 1>collaborative group of people and such an amazing group of

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>people that really formed a family. And they are, you know,

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty years later, they're still they're my family. And

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>you know when I said at the beginning that I

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>missed La, it's I miss them.

0:44:57.840 --> 0:44:58.760
<v Speaker 3>I miss my family.

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>It's Edward James almost Mary McDonald and Katie Sagoff and

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Michael truccau and like James call like they they are

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 1>my nearest and dearest, and so I know it sounds corny,

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 1>but there. You don't always have that experience where you know,

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>you get together and you may have some fun experiences,

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>but then you all go in your separate ways, and

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>we didn't.

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 3>We just really became a family.

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 1>And I know they'll be with me for the rest

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:25.240
<v Speaker 1>of my life and they have my back, and so that.

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>To me is is the biggest thing that I took

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 3>out of it.

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 2>But you know.

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 1>The other thing would be, you know, more specific to

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the actual show, would be it's kind of longevity and

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 1>the quality of the writing and this subject matter that

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>we got to deal with is something that I think

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 1>it has already lived on and I think will continue to.

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 1>So it has a longevity that even though you know,

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I also said I feel like I'm definitely a lull

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>in my career right now, it is it is something

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that has helped me throughout my career in terms of

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 1>other job voiceover jobs and things like that, that it

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>is kind of the gift.

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 3>That keeps on giving.

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Are you a gamer?

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I've never actually played a game in my life, but

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I've voiced like about eight different games.

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, that's why I was going to ask, because

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:37.919
<v Speaker 2>you brought up the voiceover and you, I mean, that's

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 2>been a large chunk of work that you have done.

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, from international model to television star and now

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 2>do you enjoy doing the voiceovers?

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:52.879
<v Speaker 3>I do.

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I had to choose one, I would

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>choose on camera, just because you actually have the interaction

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>with other people. You know, You're not just in a

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 1>sound booth by yourself, and depending on the job, sometimes

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you really don't have a lot of you know, I'm

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 1>not a Hanks area, I'm not a Dan Castelnetto where

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I can do eight million different voices and accents.

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I can do.

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I can do a slight version of my own voice

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and accent. You know, I can sound I can sound

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit different. But it is I really enjoy

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>doing it. But between the two, I prefer on.

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Camera another show that you had the opportunity to work on.

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean there have been many that has gotten a

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of attention. Is Lucifer. Talk to me about that,

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 2>the world of that show and why you enjoyed playing

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 2>in it.

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:51.400
<v Speaker 1>It was another experience, was a really great group of people,

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 1>a different tone of a show, much more I call

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 1>it a popcorn show.

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's much much lighter, fair sure, even.

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Though it's you know, show about the devil and uh

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.720
<v Speaker 1>it's based off of a graphic novel comic book tongue

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>in cheek, but with heart and certainly some some definitely

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 1>heartfelt moments. And and Tom Ellis, who played Lucifer, was

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>just such is such a lovely person and fantastic actor

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and so so focused and professional and everything. So it

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>was a great experience. It was another show where I

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>got to play multiple character, two characters, because I was

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:32.760
<v Speaker 1>originally just cast as as the mother for one season

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and then they ended up devising coming up with a

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:41.359
<v Speaker 1>plan to have my character the body that the celestial

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:42.360
<v Speaker 1>mother of all.

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:47.479
<v Speaker 2>Creation, goddess of all creation is like that is a name,

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 2>that mean from the name from from from Ford supermodel

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 2>of the World. Now you're the goddess of all creation.

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 2>This is like an This is an upgrade. I mean

0:48:58.040 --> 0:48:59.879
<v Speaker 2>at what's next? I don't even know.

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all downhill from there.

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:06.320
<v Speaker 2>No, there's got something.

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 3>I played Dracula next.

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:13.879
<v Speaker 2>So well, I yes, I that's actually an upgrade. That's

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:19.359
<v Speaker 2>pretty pretty. Yeah that did you enjoy that? I mean

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 2>that is an archetype. I mean that is an archetype

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 2>of I don't know, I mean it is had so

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:31.880
<v Speaker 2>many iterations, but I just thought it was so interesting

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:35.480
<v Speaker 2>and your work at it was so so interesting. What

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:39.560
<v Speaker 2>did you what did you pull from for creating that character?

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Did you did you go back in time looking at

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 2>prior history or was this more your own interpretation for Dracula? Yeah?

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I gosh, I can't remember at the

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:56.720
<v Speaker 1>time i'd gone back and I'd read a book about

0:49:57.000 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Dracula through Hall in Hollywood, like all the different kind

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 1>of mood, and there'd never been a female Dracula.

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 3>There had been.

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Brides of Dracula and things, so I was a little

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 1>nervous about that.

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't not a hugely watched show, so.

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 1>But it was you know, like similar to I would say,

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Van Housing was similar to like a walking walking Dead,

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 1>but vampires instead of zombies, right apocalyptic type thing, and

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 1>their their slant was female. But you know, the van

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Helsing was a female, and I did I didn't want

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to copy someone, right, So I did go back and

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:39.320
<v Speaker 1>watch a couple of things. I was big into the

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Anne Riis books, interview with a vampire and all those

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 1>type of things. I just want I wanted to sink

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:47.240
<v Speaker 1>my teeth into somebody so badly. I was really excited

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.799
<v Speaker 1>for those scenes. But no, I just kind of I

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to try and copy someone, and so I

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't specifically like go and watch like right before filming.

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I did more a little bit recent searched on on

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 1>just the different types.

0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Of Draculas, and you know, there's all different types.

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Of tones of Dracula as well, from more campy to

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>scarier and more serious and that type of thing, and

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Van Helsing was definitely a little bit more on the

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<v Speaker 1>serious side than super campy, right right, Yeah, I.

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Just kind of want Is it bad to say I

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:23.279
<v Speaker 3>just kind of wung it?

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 2>No? Is that the right wung it? Did you did it?

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:31.279
<v Speaker 3>I wong it?

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Can you say that?

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't that's a word. I don't think it.

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I just wung it. I just winged it. I don't know.

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 2>This is a great question. I didn't research that either. Yeah,

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're the variety. I envy you for the

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:54.839
<v Speaker 2>variety of say, genres that you've been able to play in.

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, right, so there's sci fi, fantasy, some horror,

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 2>even some procedural that we've discussed as well, video games,

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 2>rom coms. Is there anything that you that appeals to you,

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Tricia the most?

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in terms of what I want to play or

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>what I want to I mean, I again, I because

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't grow up with the TV, I often find

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>myself just not even watching anything like I'll I'll it

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>sounds awful, but I'll.

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes just sit there and stare.

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>At a wall before I'll like reflok or watch TV

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>as I just sometimes need quiet. But I would love

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:39.880
<v Speaker 1>like to find a show like you know, I like

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.799
<v Speaker 1>shows like Ozark or Breaking Bad or that ting where

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you're actually playing just some you know. I've often played

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 1>bigger than life characters, you know, and or the you know,

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I've played lawyers or but they're always the tough, bitchy

0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 1>one or the you know that I try and infuse

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 1>with the vulnerability because I think everybody has there, you know,

0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 1>even if they're the antagonist, they have their own thing.

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 1>There's a there's a serial killer role that I want

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:07.359
<v Speaker 1>to play so badly and I'm trying to get made.

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:09.880
<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot of layers to this character, right,

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:11.760
<v Speaker 1>but she would be a pretty bigger than life character

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 1>as well.

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:14.839
<v Speaker 3>But I just really want to.

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And I don't get it that often to play more

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>your every every woman, every person type thing and a

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 1>story about whatever the story is.

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Am I making any sense?

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think? I mean, I mean how I interpret

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying so I don't want to put words

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:35.320
<v Speaker 2>in your mouth is like ultra realism, which actually makes

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:40.240
<v Speaker 2>sense to me because of Yeah, there's been a lot

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 2>that has been stylized for you so far, in your career.

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 2>And so when I think about like Ozark, Breaking Bad

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 2>had its own sort of sensibility. But I but but ultimately, yeah,

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 2>sort of ultra realism. That's how I would kind of

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 2>define that.

0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I now have a word for or for what it

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:04.799
<v Speaker 1>is I haven't I tell I just told my guy

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the other day. I was like, I'm better when words

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>are written for me and then I make them pun

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to life.

0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm not very good on my own. I can't.

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a good improver, not good thinker on my feet.

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.200
<v Speaker 1>So thank you for giving me the word for that.

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and I had a slice of it. This year,

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I've done two indie films and I played played a

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:29.879
<v Speaker 1>character version of a real woman that has a breast

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>cancer survivor story. And I played off a book called

0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Walk Beside Me by Christine Handy and I did that

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>this the beginning of the year, and that was but

0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and that was ultra realism. I'm telling this woman's story

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and that was really interesting for me to be able

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to do because I don't I haven't really gotten that

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:53.280
<v Speaker 1>opportunity that often.

0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 2>The other movie, I believe you're referring to the Great

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 2>sail Ish tell me about the film. It's a it's

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 2>a comedy, right it is.

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:07.040
<v Speaker 1>It's I actually haven't even seen it yet. That's not

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the one I was talking about. I just the other

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>one I was talking about was called Primitive War that

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I just came back from filming in Australia, but it's

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 1>not out yet.

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:16.360
<v Speaker 3>But it was a lot of fun.

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 1>But The Great Salish Heist was Actually it's a small,

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 1>small movie. I played a very small role in it.

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I play a museum curator. That it is a comedy.

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Dennis Daryl wrote and produced it, and it's it's really

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:37.280
<v Speaker 1>about the First Nations and their struggle throughout throughout history

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>of recovering their artifacts and their land.

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 3>And certain things like that.

0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:46.640
<v Speaker 1>And so so there's there's a museum exhibit that they

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 1>are sending off. So I play the museum curator that

0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 1>thinks that she she's not malicious, she doesn't come from it.

0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, she comes from a mindset of let's show

0:55:57.080 --> 0:56:01.320
<v Speaker 1>these artifacts to the world as a to they wanted,

0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:05.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, Dennis's Carroll character wants to keep the artifacts

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>for themselves, right and you.

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, you could see both sides.

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:12.120
<v Speaker 1>But I play a very small role in but it's

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>it's there. It's a heist movie, so it's their plan

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of reclaiming the artifacts.

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Got it? Is it going to be available and wide release?

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what the plan is? You haven't seen

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:22.479
<v Speaker 2>it yet.

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:23.680
<v Speaker 3>I have not seen it yet.

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:26.719
<v Speaker 1>No, it's a At this point, it's just doing kind

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:28.759
<v Speaker 1>of the festival circuit up in Canada, so I have

0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:29.840
<v Speaker 1>not seen that yet.

0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 2>But all right, Well do you do comic cons?

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:36.719
<v Speaker 3>I do? I have it. I don't do a lot

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 3>of them.

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I with Battlestar and Lucifer and Ben Helsing and things

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 1>like that. I was at San Diego quite a bit

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:45.640
<v Speaker 1>when those were airing, but I haven't. I did the

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:47.440
<v Speaker 1>OD I just did one in Perth, Australia on the

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 1>way back from from filming Primitive War on the Gold Coast.

0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, So I.

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Do them every once in a while. I've got I've

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:56.360
<v Speaker 1>got two coming up this year. I've got a Battlestar

0:56:56.440 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Galactica reunion coming up in Chicago, which will be really fun,

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and then I've got to loose for one coming up

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 1>in September in Birmingham, England.

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean the fact that I was supposed to do

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:11.280
<v Speaker 2>that one time the fact that you have these three

0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 2>shows that are so big in that world. I mean,

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what I mean. Yeah, we need to get

0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 2>you on something ultra realistic because like you have like

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 2>spanned the like large scale comic DC world.

0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 3>But I've never been in a superhero.

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I've never been in a big movie, like a big

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Marvel or anything like that type of movie.

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:38.240
<v Speaker 3>I've never been. I've never been in a big movie.

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 2>We don't changed that.

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I was in Bombshell, but I was in a tiny

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 1>role I actually played. I listened to your episode and

0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Cameronda today.

0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:48.560
<v Speaker 2>God, I was supposed to. I was supposed to say

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 2>that it's here in my papers. Yes, how delightful is hurt?

0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you know her? Have you met her? No?

0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I have not, And but she was absolutely Yeah. I

0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 1>used to watch her on CNN years ago. But yeah,

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I think she's delightful. But I've never met her in person.

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 1>But I specifically was.

0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, I want to listen to this one.

0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, I played her in Bombshell, so a

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of couple of scenes, very small scenes.

0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, she's interesting. At least she didn't she didn't send

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 2>you a hate mail?

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 1>No, no, not at all. I think we corresponded over

0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Twitter briefly or DMed each other briefly. And I don't

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>know if it was before, before the movie came out

0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 1>or after, but but the director had said he thinks

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>she'll like my performance, So that's what I went on.

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Is it fun for you? The fanaticism with which people

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 2>hold I mean, you just mentioned three shows, but I'll

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:51.880
<v Speaker 2>stick very specifically to Battlestar Galactica because even with Lucifer

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and Van helsing and all that, I mean, Battlestar Galactica

0:58:55.560 --> 0:59:00.000
<v Speaker 2>is just well, I mean, it's it's a it's a cultural,

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:07.160
<v Speaker 2>pop culture iconic show. Does the fanaticism with which people,

0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 2>uh celebrate that show? Is that fun for you? Always?

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Is that? Is that difficult for you?

0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:17.240
<v Speaker 3>It is? I don't. I don't find it difficult because

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I look at it in.

0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:23.800
<v Speaker 1>A few ways that like, you know, we're describing comic

0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:25.480
<v Speaker 1>cons that type of thing I've described it is.

0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 3>What's the difference of going to.

0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 1>See a you know, I watched the hockey game last

0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 1>night and people were dressed up with their favorite jersey

0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, their faces painted the colors of the team.

0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:36.919
<v Speaker 1>What's the difference of going to a comicon and people

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:39.600
<v Speaker 1>are dressed up as their favorite character or something like that.

0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:42.160
<v Speaker 1>There's really no it's it's a coming together of a

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:43.880
<v Speaker 1>like minded enjoyment.

0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:48.680
<v Speaker 1>But I don't often get recognized in public for number six,

0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's not like it affects me too much personally

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.520
<v Speaker 1>out on the street, so to speak, because I don't

0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't walk around, you know, I don't have the

0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 1>white hair that was more iconic with the character. I

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:00.600
<v Speaker 1>had versions of the character that had my own hair

1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:04.600
<v Speaker 1>color in later seasons. But right but the you know,

1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:07.919
<v Speaker 1>the the one that people think of is the white

1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the platinum haired one, and I look different. I mean

1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I kind of sometimes it gets self conscious about it

1:00:13.280 --> 1:00:16.640
<v Speaker 1>because unless I'm all dulled up, it's almost like I

1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 1>disappoint people in person, like.

1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:26.520
<v Speaker 2>They like that you don't look like Yeah, I mean,

1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:29.040
<v Speaker 2>this is a whole other We could have a huge

1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:32.640
<v Speaker 2>conversation about just this topic alone. You know. I think

1:00:32.680 --> 1:00:36.280
<v Speaker 2>it's and I'm saying this from a like a culture again,

1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:42.000
<v Speaker 2>like a cultural standpoint. I think that the beautiful people

1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:47.520
<v Speaker 2>in our business get recognized less. Don't know why I

1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:49.760
<v Speaker 2>have been sitting this is the story I always tell,

1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:53.480
<v Speaker 2>which is a totally true story. Sitting at a sushi

1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:59.439
<v Speaker 2>restaurant with myself and Mandy Moore and John Krasinski, people

1:00:59.480 --> 1:01:02.520
<v Speaker 2>would come up to the table for me and not

1:01:02.600 --> 1:01:07.280
<v Speaker 2>even noticed that they were there. Just it's it's und

1:01:07.480 --> 1:01:10.400
<v Speaker 2>you can't even figure this out. I mean, I do

1:01:10.480 --> 1:01:13.640
<v Speaker 2>have a distinctive head, but I'm probably wearing a hat.

1:01:13.800 --> 1:01:17.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the crazy thing. I know. I don't know.

1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:18.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I always thought, like I look at it too, is

1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:22.880
<v Speaker 1>like often I changed hair and makeup or whatever.

1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like I'm a.

1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Little bit of a chameleon in that way, Like different

1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:30.280
<v Speaker 1>hair and makeup really changes me. And I know that

1:01:30.320 --> 1:01:34.080
<v Speaker 1>from my modeling days. I can look different with a

1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:37.640
<v Speaker 1>soft makeup or a dramatic makeup or dark hair. Like

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<v Speaker 1>even people I know if I changed my hair color

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<v Speaker 1>don't recognize being off the top.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know. Maybe there's something to that. Did

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<v Speaker 3>you just call me a pretty person now again?

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<v Speaker 2>I said culturally? I said culturally the idea of attracted.

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<v Speaker 2>What did I say pretty? I don't think I said pretty,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. Somebody checked the tape Trasa.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you did, I appreciate it, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty now, and that's kind of has an expiration

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<v Speaker 1>date in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't you don't look you don't look a

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<v Speaker 2>day over fifty. I mean, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm a day in maybe a month, month

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<v Speaker 1>and a half over fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for joining me. I wish you

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<v Speaker 2>all success. I mean, listen, here's here's the sum total

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<v Speaker 2>of what I heard. Okay, you discussed having a career lull,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've shot two movies this year. Okay, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>only in June. So let's just say I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing just fine. Enjoy your cats, Enjoy Chattahoochee City, and hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be down there. My family's still there. I'll look

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<v Speaker 2>you up and we'll go to a hockey game.

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<v Speaker 3>Come visit.

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<v Speaker 2>Loved it, all right, all right, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Bryan, Thank you Tricia.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so glad that we got to catch up.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for that conversation and to hear your amazing story.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that I can advise young actors to

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<v Speaker 2>go standing around outside movie theaters waiting for their big break.

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<v Speaker 2>But the world is a better place now because you did. Listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to seeing you all here again next week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's summer. Get outside, but keep me in your ears

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