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Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Trisha Halfer and I am certifiably the mother

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, welcome back here to another episode of Off

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Speaker 2: the Beat. I am once again your host, Brian Bumgartner.

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Speaker 2: Now you've probably heard that classic Hollywood story about someone

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Speaker 2: They're at a grocery store and an agent comes up

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Speaker 2: Hollywood be in the movies. My experience, this is many

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Speaker 2: it's just it is just not how things work. You

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Speaker 2: do come true, because it did happen for my guest today,

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Speaker 2: Tricia Helfer, at a movie theater in Canada, mind you,

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Speaker 2: so there you go, And whoever discovered her at that

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Speaker 2: has played favorites like Number six on Battlestar Galactica, Dracula

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Speaker 2: pat Scout got lucky when they saw her at the

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Speaker 2: to see her perform in all of her spectacular roles.

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Speaker 2: And guess what, I feel lucky to have her here. Today.

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Speaker 2: Here she is my new friend, Tricia Helfer Bubblin Squeak.

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Speaker 2: Ninefo Hi, Tricia, Hello, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good? Thank you. I'm pleased to be here

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for coming in and having

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Speaker 2: a little chat with me today. Where are you where? Like?

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Speaker 2: What city are you in?

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not in a city actually, and you're from Georgia.

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Speaker 1: You're from Georgia, right, you might you might go, you

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Speaker 3: Actually I'm in Chattahoochee.

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Speaker 2: Hills Chatahoochie Hills. Yeah, so I lived well that's an exaggeration.

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Speaker 2: I was a like two minute walk down the hill

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Speaker 1: Actually is it's south like an hour south of city,

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Speaker 2: Are do you live there now?

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Speaker 2: La Okay, But but do you like it?

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Speaker 2: Goats that qualifies as a farm. If you have a goat,

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Speaker 2: then that equals farm. Like do you, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: That's my plan?

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Speaker 2: No, probably not. So you were you did farm work?

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Speaker 3: But he did.

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Speaker 1: He he really was. He's an interesting guy. He's got

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Speaker 1: I was a very shy kid, so modeling and being

443
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: in that world and being in front of the camera

444
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: even though your crews are much smaller, you know, a

445
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: few people, five to ten people maximum, right, compared to

446
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: or maybe sometimes down to two or three or a

447
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: or a you know Vasaci fashion show where you're in

448
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: front of a lot of people. But you definitely had

449
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: to become more comfortable being in front of people and

450
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: that helped one hundred percent.

451
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: Right, There's parts.

452
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: Of me that have always felt like a little bit

453
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: of a not a fraud, but it's like I do

454
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: still walk into some job sometimes like a very apprehensive

455
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: and then it's it's usually until the first take or

456
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: two and then you're it just kicks in or everything

457
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: makes sense or or something. But because I didn't go

458
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: to act, you know, I really didn't go to a

459
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: big acting school. I haven't done plays, I haven't you know,

460
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up watching TV.

461
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 3: I didn't it or movies. I'm not well versed in

462
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: that way.

463
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: I've always felt like I don't know a lot about

464
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, people. People talk about all these different old

465
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: movies and things like that, and it's.

466
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: Just over my head.

467
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: But I've just had and granted, I could go and

468
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: study more, and I could go and obviously watch things

469
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: more than I do, but then I fall back on

470
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: the well, sometimes it's just about people watching and some

471
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: sort of natural abilities maybe the wrong word, but natural

472
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: something too.

473
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: Sure.

474
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 3: You know, when I was a kid, I was going

475
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: to go into psychology.

476
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: So that's what gets me about about our business, is

477
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: getting into the psychology.

478
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: Of the character.

479
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: Right.

480
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't really answer your question.

481
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: Sorry, No, no, I mean I mean it sort of did.

482
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,239
Speaker 2: I mean in terms of what interests you, which is

483
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: that you know, that's what's interesting to me. I just

484
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's something about and look you're talking

485
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: to I mean, I literally don't know anything about high fashion,

486
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: but I know enough to know it's got to be

487
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: exposing in a way. And again not just physically, I mean,

488
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: but you're putting yourself out there. You're presenting, you know,

489
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: in your case, a lot of of high fashion, and

490
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: there's so much scrutiny, and there's so much judgment, and

491
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: there's so much physical hands on manipulating garment. That just

492
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: had to have given you an advantage starting out, just

493
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: just being who you are in the place, having done

494
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: what you did, because those things are the are some

495
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: of the most difficult things when you're starting out, like

496
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: hitting your hitting your mark, suddenly performing with I mean

497
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: you say your crew was smaller when you're doing a

498
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: shoot or whatever, but doing it in front of twenty

499
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: five people, thirty people, fifty people, you know, whatever it

500
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 2: is that's on a set. I don't know. There's just

501
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: something fascinating to me about that. And I haven't really

502
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 2: engaged in that conversation with someone before, but that just

503
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: had to have given you an advantage.

504
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: It did, because you're used to being in front of

505
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: the camera's or having people's attention on you. Right, the

506
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: whole room is looking at you, and that can be

507
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: very disconcerting. Yes, And it was when I first started modeling,

508
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: when you know, when I was seventeen eighteen, I was

509
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: it was terrifying to have everybody look at me. Yes,

510
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: and then you know, you're like and you're not quite sure,

511
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, like a gawky teenager. Still well, you're not

512
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: quite sure what you're supposed to be doing with your body.

513
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: You're not really right, you learn, you know, modeling is

514
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: performing as well. Like you said earlier, it is. You

515
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: can have the most beautiful woman, so to speak, that

516
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: walks down the street, but she can't translate that in

517
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: front of a camera, right, So it doesn't it's not

518
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: just about beauty or society's beauty or whatever that is, right.

519
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: Kelly, My old modeling age we call a bone structure,

520
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 3: whatever it is.

521
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: But you have to be able to translate that and

522
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: and be able to translate the tone that the photographer

523
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: and the magazine or whatever is looking for. And that's

524
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: also in film, right, because you have different tones. Be

525
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: within comedy, you have different tones. Within drama, you have

526
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: different tones. And also just having being used to having

527
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: the eyeballs all focused on you, and a lot of

528
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: them not sometimes not happy with what you're doing necessarily

529
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: of course, all the time. You know, you you don't

530
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: perform the best all the time or every take or

531
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: every snap of the camera.

532
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so you have to.

533
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: Be willing to mess up and be willing to make

534
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: an ass of yourself and not let it destroy you.

535
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Shortly after you move to LA, you take your

536
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: acting classes, you move to LA, you get a role

537
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: on Showtime's Jeremiah. What was it like being on set

538
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: for the first time?

539
00:28:54,280 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: Uh, it was awful. I got fired from that job.

540
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: You did, so my first ever acting job I got

541
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: fired from.

542
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: That's happened. It happens everybody.

543
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: I was still modeling at the time.

544
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: I was still living in New York, and I remember,

545
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: I think it was summer of two thousand and one,

546
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: and I had was in LA for a modeling job

547
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: and my commercial agent knew that I had wanted to start,

548
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, I was acting classes and I had planned

549
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: on moving at the end of the year. I think

550
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: I looked at houses and everything, and so they said, oh,

551
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: there's this audition. Stay an extra day and go in

552
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: on this audition. So I did, and it was Jeremiah

553
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: and it was for the lead female role.

554
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: And flew back to New York and they wanted to

555
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: test me.

556
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what a studio test was, right,

557
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: So they fly me back out.

558
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: I test. They don't take any of us.

559
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: There's four four women similar look whatever, they didn't take

560
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: any of us. Cut to I'm back in New York.

561
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Nine to eleven happens. I drive down after about a week.

562
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: I had a place in Jupiter au On in Florida.

563
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm down in Florida and I get the call, You're

564
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: You're hired. You have to be in Vancouver in like

565
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: two days for four months.

566
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: Now. I got to get on my get on a plane.

567
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: That I'm terrified.

568
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: You know, I've just watched the towers fall from my apartment.

569
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: You know, I've driven down with two cats, and I've

570
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: got to get by myself with two cats, back up

571
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: and pack up.

572
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: And leave for four months. That all happens.

573
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: And I get to Vancouver and it was Luke Perry

574
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: and Malcolm Jamal Warner and they were lovely. My character

575
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: is introduced at the very end of a two hour

576
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: pilot to then be part of the series, right right.

577
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: They're searching for this valhalla, this this place, and they

578
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: finally find it at the end of the two hour pilot.

579
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: I get there and the showrunner won't even like look

580
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: at me. He's so unhappy that the studio has.

581
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: Forced you on all.

582
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: Yes, and this was my first introduction to the business.

583
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Like he wanted nothing of my type at all, you know,

584
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: and I don't want to explain what he wanted, but

585
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: something that I could not be.

586
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 3: Ever okay, right, yes, and they ended up.

587
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: I remember he said that I was nerve. I had

588
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: one scene and the scene was fine, Like we used

589
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: it on my reel.

590
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: It was good, there was nothing wrong with it, right,

591
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: and Luke Perry.

592
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: Years later, I ran into Luke Perry at like comic

593
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: Con Warner Brothers party and.

594
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, that was so mess you know,

595
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: messed up and whatever.

596
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: But he used the fact that I was off in

597
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: the corner prepping, as I had been told in Penny

598
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: Templeton studio was like prepping to do an emotional scene,

599
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: and he said that I was I was just way

600
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: too nervous and whatever. But I was like I and

601
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: she's like off in the corner whatever, and I was

602
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: I was preparing the scene was fine, and but I

603
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: get fed and they don't replace me, they just can

604
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: the character completely and then lo and behold, he gets

605
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: what he wants.

606
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: Like a few episodes later, I watched it and there

607
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: was a character that he was wanting.

608
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: So it all worked out fine. But you know things,

609
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: at the time, it was very hard to take and

610
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: to accept. But if I had done that, I wouldn't

611
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: have then been available to do Battlestar Galactica. That went

612
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: two seasons, and I wouldn't have been able to do

613
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: it because it crossed over a year. Yeah, so I'm

614
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: trying to tell my sell myself now that that same thing,

615
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 1: when my career is in the crapper and I'm am

616
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: I ever gonna work again, I'm trying to remind myself

617
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: of that.

618
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, I mean, look, you did get and you

619
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: said went a couple of seasons Battlestar Galactica, your character

620
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: number six, not only Battlestar Galactica becomes a huge epic

621
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: press getting show of various incarnations across what do they

622
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: call it, across the in perpetuity throughout the universe. There

623
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: you go, I finally got it. That's the phrase they

624
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: always use. Not just that, but you play a character

625
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 2: that gets to play different variations of themselves, which is

626
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: literally an actor's dream. Talk to me a little bit

627
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: about well, first off, getting that, so after you go

628
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: from the disappointment of Jeremiah to get to landing this

629
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: this role of number six on Battlestar Galactica.

630
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: I had been in La about a year at that point,

631
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: so it was and it was, you know, I had

632
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: done a couple of things. I had done a couple

633
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: of guest stars and you know, right, and in an

634
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: indie movie and yeah, I just it was I think

635
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: I had done a guest star for CSI Vegas season two,

636
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: that's how long ago was and the finale.

637
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: And it was.

638
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: The casting director that remembered me from that show that

639
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: then pulled me in to read for the producers of Battlestar.

640
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: Wait a second, it's uh cher Dean. Yes, I was

641
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: on CSIS. You said, CSI Vegas. That's just CSI.

642
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: That's the original.

643
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: Yes, the og the O G. Yes, what did you

644
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: play on there?

645
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: I played a model, so I was the victim and

646
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: I actually auditioned. There was this two sisters, the model

647
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: and her sister, and I auditioned for the sister and

648
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: I remember they called me back in and they said, look,

649
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: there's two that's we want you these two. But you

650
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: look like you could be a model. She doesn't, so

651
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: at least at that time, that sounds true.

652
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: I didn't mean it.

653
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: They said it, so we need you to play the

654
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: role that has no lines.

655
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: Well, no, but the fact that they the fact that

656
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: they said it looks like you could be a model,

657
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: were you were exactly?

658
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: But I was.

659
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: I was like really trying to downplay that at the

660
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: time because at the time there was no kind of

661
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: crossover model turned out, you know, like model turned act.

662
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: It was kind of a bad thing, and it's like

663
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: you can't you're probably not going to be able to

664
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Speaker 1: act if you're a model type thing. So, right, I

665
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: really did downplay it a lot.

666
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: How do you downplay I don't, I mean, what like you,

667
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: I don't wash your hair for a week or like

668
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: what like you.

669
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: I would always go in with like, well, you know

670
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: it does it has hurt me in many ways my

671
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: height because I'm almost six feet tall, right.

672
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm five le so that I'm taller, don't don't get braggy,

673
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm taller.

674
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 3: I love when somebody's taller.

675
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: But I don't know for men, if it ever hurts

676
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: you that you're tall. But you know, we all get

677
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: we all get put in boxes of what you can

678
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: play in which you couldn't play.

679
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: But this was actually quite a difficult role.

680
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: Because even though yeah, she was a model and she

681
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: didn't have any lines, she had body dysmorphic disorder. Okay,

682
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: so there was quite a few scenes and and she

683
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: ultimately gets toxic shocks in Rome from like cutting herself

684
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: and that type of thing, and and nobody killed her.

685
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: She died herself. But okay, yeah, so what did you play?

686
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: Dog Man?

687
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: Dog Man? Dog walker dressed up as a furry.

688
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: That's it right there, that's it. Yes, I didn't even

689
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: know what it was at the time, I'll be honest

690
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: with you, but it was explained to me in great

691
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: detail what a furry is and likes to be. Uh, yeah,

692
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: that was it, all right? He got totally off topic.

693
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: I just love I just I just love comparing CSI stories.

694
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 2: And actually before we move on, because I do want

695
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: to talk about Star Galactica, but I do want to

696
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: what what were you in? Uh? I didn't I'm sorry,

697
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: I didn't watch the episode. What were you in? Criminal Minds?

698
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: Were you a killer or are you a victim? There too?

699
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: No?

700
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 3: I was.

701
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: It was a two episode bank robbing. I was an

702
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: international uh, internationally sought criminal okay, and I and I yeah,

703
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: held a bank hostage.

704
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: Okay. Well so then so there you go. So I

705
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: do want to talk about this before we talk about

706
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: you actually like being a star on a serious regular part.

707
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 2: I often talk about for pragmatic reasons that Criminal Minds

708
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: was one of the hardest jobs I ever did in

709
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: television because because you're a guest star, right, But it

710
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: sounds like you had the same situation that I did,

711
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: where you go in and and functionally like you are

712
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: the lead. It's your story, Yes, you or the protagonist.

713
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: That's the word I was looking for for those episodes.

714
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: And so you're your energy sort of is guiding the

715
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: whole thing. Yet everybody else has been there for like

716
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: fourteen years or whatever it is, and the crew knows

717
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: them and they don't know you it's just a very

718
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: odd feeling thing. And also my very first day was

719
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 2: like we shot the final scene and it was on

720
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: the docks in Long Beach Harbor from eight pm to

721
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: seven am. Oh yes, and I was like, what is

722
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: going on here? It was like crazy. But anyway, it's tough, right,

723
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: That is a tough job.

724
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: Yes, Guest starring is a tough job, because you're right,

725
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: you come into a well oiled machine where everybody knows

726
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: each other and you know you're in the business long enough,

727
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: hopefully you know. It's more often that when you do

728
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: come on and guests are on something, you end up

729
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: knowing crew you've worked with before, and that starts to

730
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: really change everything. And it also depends on the cast

731
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: you're with, because there I've gone on a guest starret

732
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: on some things where it's just I've had the most

733
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: amazing experience, and then I've had gone in and guest

734
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: starred where You're like, Okay, I'm clearly made to feel

735
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: like I'm the odd met.

736
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: Out like lunch in my trailer today, please lunch? Yeah?

737
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: All right. So back to Battlestar Galacticat you auditioned for

738
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: number six, was this an exhaustive audition process. Did you

739
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 2: have multiple steps or was this was this easier?

740
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: You know, I had multiple steps.

741
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: I remember specifically it was January sixth that I went

742
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: in because I was given the script right before Christmas

743
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: and I took it home with me and it was

744
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: for the miniseries.

745
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 3: It was a big script.

746
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: And I came back and I auditioned and then they

747
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: said it went really well, but you know, they're not

748
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: making up any minds, and I was still really like

749
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: almost no credits, right, So I think they were looking

750
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: for a name or they were you know, and I

751
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: think i'd also heard it some points they were thinking

752
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: of maybe having this character kind of CGI, which in

753
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: that time period also was a little bit newer, harder

754
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: to do, and and it wasn't. It was like two

755
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: months later that they came back. So I just thought

756
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: it was gone. Poof, it's one of you know, it's

757
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: one you didn't get. But it was one of those

758
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: I just couldn't get rid of the script. The script

759
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: was still you know, I'm I'm I could be a

760
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: little bit petty if I don't get something. It's like

761
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: I might not watch the show, or I might you know,

762
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: throw out the script whatever.

763
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: I can be a little petty, but.

764
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: I just couldn't just sat there on the corner of

765
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: my desk and cut to I think it was two

766
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: months later, it was in March, and they called me

767
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: back in and I went back in, and then they

768
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: said the next day I was going to test for it,

769
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: and I had to do a work and maybe it

770
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: wasn't the next day, but I had to do a

771
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: work session, which I'd never done a work session before,

772
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: and went through that process and then tested and it

773
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: was a full like, oh gosh, at least half to

774
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: I think we got there at eight thirty in the

775
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: morning and I don't think we were released till about

776
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: two pm.

777
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 2: Wow.

778
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, just pairing. It was probably

779
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: like eight or nine guys and gals and for the

780
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: number six in baltar role, and I don't I don't

781
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: remember much of it. We all went in separately, and

782
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: then they got rid of some people, which is.

783
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: So awkward, so awkward.

784
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: And then they started pairing us up and I remember

785
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: James and I James Callus, who played balltar, went in

786
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: and he remembers this. He remembers hearing somebody in the

787
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: room say that's it, but I don't.

788
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: I don't remember that.

789
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: I just remember thinking, well, now I'm definitely not going

790
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: to get it because I tower above him, and at

791
00:41:59,239 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: this point.

792
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: I had no idea what I've done.

793
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: At one point, I think it was I think it

794
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: was Robert all Right came up to me and he's like,

795
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: just because they keep giving everybody gives you notes and

796
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: everybody and by the time you go back in, it's

797
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: like fifteen people have given you notes. You're going back

798
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: in for the fourth time. And it must have just

799
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: shone on my face, like I was like a deer

800
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: in the headlights. And he just took me aside in

801
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: the hallway and just said, just go back to what

802
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: you did in.

803
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: The room when you came in to see me.

804
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: Just forget about everything and just go back to what

805
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: you came in here with. And I guess that's what

806
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: I attempted to do. But I remember thinking, I tower

807
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: over James. I'm never going to.

808
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 2: Get this for ale. So it started as a mini series.

809
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a We shot him for our mini

810
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 1: series in the spring of two thousand and three, and

811
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: then we didn't go back to start filming the series,

812
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: which started with an episode called thirty three in until

813
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: two thousand and four.

814
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: Wow full series movies, on and on and on. Have

815
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: you ever heard the phrase bears.

816
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: Big Battlestar Galactica. Yes, from the office.

817
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: Well we have a little kinship there from the show

818
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: because as it sounds like, you know, our good friend

819
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: Rain Wilson aka Dwight was a big Battlestar Galactica fan.

820
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: I hope everybody considered that to be endearing. I mean

821
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: it was Dwight absolutely.

822
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: Did you hear that?

823
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: Was that the same episode or was there another Was

824
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: there another place where something about you watch Battlestar galacticat

825
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: know what you're dumb or something like that, there was

826
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: another Yeah, or was that from the same episode.

827
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that was different. But I

828
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: think he had that, he had the T shirt. He

829
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: was very clearly a big uh. So it got a

830
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: lot of discussion I will say on our real live

831
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: set at the time as well. It was It was

832
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: a big It was a big show on our set.

833
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: What are you most thankful for out of that experience?

834
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: I mean, your first big time show multiple years but

835
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: really sort of launches you. But what for you is

836
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: your sort of memory.

837
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: I know it's going to sound kind of corny to say,

838
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: but the people, you know, I had moved to LA

839
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: and really didn't know. I moved there not knowing anybody,

840
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: and a year later got Battle Star and it was

841
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: just one of those experiences where it was such a

842
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: collaborative group of people and such an amazing group of

843
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: people that really formed a family. And they are, you know,

844
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty years later, they're still they're my family. And

845
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: you know when I said at the beginning that I

846
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: missed La, it's I miss them.

847
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 3: I miss my family.

848
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: It's Edward James almost Mary McDonald and Katie Sagoff and

849
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: Michael truccau and like James call like they they are

850
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: my nearest and dearest, and so I know it sounds corny,

851
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: but there. You don't always have that experience where you know,

852
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: you get together and you may have some fun experiences,

853
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: but then you all go in your separate ways, and

854
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: we didn't.

855
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: We just really became a family.

856
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: And I know they'll be with me for the rest

857
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: of my life and they have my back, and so that.

858
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: To me is is the biggest thing that I took

859
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: out of it.

860
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: But you know.

861
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: The other thing would be, you know, more specific to

862
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: the actual show, would be it's kind of longevity and

863
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: the quality of the writing and this subject matter that

864
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: we got to deal with is something that I think

865
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: it has already lived on and I think will continue to.

866
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: So it has a longevity that even though you know,

867
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: I also said I feel like I'm definitely a lull

868
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: in my career right now, it is it is something

869
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: that has helped me throughout my career in terms of

870
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: other job voiceover jobs and things like that, that it

871
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: is kind of the gift.

872
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: That keeps on giving.

873
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 2: Are you a gamer?

874
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: I've never actually played a game in my life, but

875
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: I've voiced like about eight different games.

876
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: Well, no, that's why I was going to ask, because

877
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 2: you brought up the voiceover and you, I mean, that's

878
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: been a large chunk of work that you have done.

879
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: I mean, from international model to television star and now

880
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: do you enjoy doing the voiceovers?

881
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 3: I do.

882
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to choose one, I would

883
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: choose on camera, just because you actually have the interaction

884
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: with other people. You know, You're not just in a

885
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: sound booth by yourself, and depending on the job, sometimes

886
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: you really don't have a lot of you know, I'm

887
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: not a Hanks area, I'm not a Dan Castelnetto where

888
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: I can do eight million different voices and accents.

889
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: I can do.

890
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: I can do a slight version of my own voice

891
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: and accent. You know, I can sound I can sound

892
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: a little bit different. But it is I really enjoy

893
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: doing it. But between the two, I prefer on.

894
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: Camera another show that you had the opportunity to work on.

895
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: I mean there have been many that has gotten a

896
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: lot of attention. Is Lucifer. Talk to me about that,

897
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: the world of that show and why you enjoyed playing

898
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: in it.

899
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: It was another experience, was a really great group of people,

900
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: a different tone of a show, much more I call

901
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: it a popcorn show.

902
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's much much lighter, fair sure, even.

903
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Though it's you know, show about the devil and uh

904
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: it's based off of a graphic novel comic book tongue

905
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: in cheek, but with heart and certainly some some definitely

906
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: heartfelt moments. And and Tom Ellis, who played Lucifer, was

907
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: just such is such a lovely person and fantastic actor

908
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: and so so focused and professional and everything. So it

909
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: was a great experience. It was another show where I

910
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: got to play multiple character, two characters, because I was

911
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: originally just cast as as the mother for one season

912
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: and then they ended up devising coming up with a

913
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: plan to have my character the body that the celestial

914
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: mother of all.

915
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 2: Creation, goddess of all creation is like that is a name,

916
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: that mean from the name from from from Ford supermodel

917
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: of the World. Now you're the goddess of all creation.

918
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: This is like an This is an upgrade. I mean

919
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: at what's next? I don't even know.

920
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all downhill from there.

921
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 2: No, there's got something.

922
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: I played Dracula next.

923
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 2: So well, I yes, I that's actually an upgrade. That's

924
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: pretty pretty. Yeah that did you enjoy that? I mean

925
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: that is an archetype. I mean that is an archetype

926
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: of I don't know, I mean it is had so

927
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: many iterations, but I just thought it was so interesting

928
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: and your work at it was so so interesting. What

929
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: did you what did you pull from for creating that character?

930
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: Did you did you go back in time looking at

931
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: prior history or was this more your own interpretation for Dracula? Yeah?

932
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I gosh, I can't remember at the

933
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 1: time i'd gone back and I'd read a book about

934
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: Dracula through Hall in Hollywood, like all the different kind

935
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: of mood, and there'd never been a female Dracula.

936
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: There had been.

937
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: Brides of Dracula and things, so I was a little

938
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: nervous about that.

939
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: But it wasn't not a hugely watched show, so.

940
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: But it was you know, like similar to I would say,

941
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: Van Housing was similar to like a walking walking Dead,

942
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: but vampires instead of zombies, right apocalyptic type thing, and

943
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: their their slant was female. But you know, the van

944
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: Helsing was a female, and I did I didn't want

945
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: to copy someone, right, So I did go back and

946
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: watch a couple of things. I was big into the

947
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: Anne Riis books, interview with a vampire and all those

948
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: type of things. I just want I wanted to sink

949
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: my teeth into somebody so badly. I was really excited

950
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: for those scenes. But no, I just kind of I

951
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: didn't want to try and copy someone, and so I

952
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: didn't specifically like go and watch like right before filming.

953
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: I did more a little bit recent searched on on

954
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: just the different types.

955
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: Of Draculas, and you know, there's all different types.

956
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: Of tones of Dracula as well, from more campy to

957
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: scarier and more serious and that type of thing, and

958
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: Van Helsing was definitely a little bit more on the

959
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: serious side than super campy, right right, Yeah, I.

960
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: Just kind of want Is it bad to say I

961
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 3: just kind of wung it?

962
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: No? Is that the right wung it? Did you did it?

963
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: I wong it?

964
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: Can you say that?

965
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: I don't that's a word. I don't think it.

966
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: I just wung it. I just winged it. I don't know.

967
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: This is a great question. I didn't research that either. Yeah,

968
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you're the variety. I envy you for the

969
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: variety of say, genres that you've been able to play in.

970
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: I mean, right, so there's sci fi, fantasy, some horror,

971
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: even some procedural that we've discussed as well, video games,

972
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: rom coms. Is there anything that you that appeals to you,

973
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 2: Tricia the most?

974
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of what I want to play or

975
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: what I want to I mean, I again, I because

976
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with the TV, I often find

977
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: myself just not even watching anything like I'll I'll it

978
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: sounds awful, but I'll.

979
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes just sit there and stare.

980
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: At a wall before I'll like reflok or watch TV

981
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: as I just sometimes need quiet. But I would love

982
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: like to find a show like you know, I like

983
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: shows like Ozark or Breaking Bad or that ting where

984
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: you're actually playing just some you know. I've often played

985
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: bigger than life characters, you know, and or the you know,

986
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: I've played lawyers or but they're always the tough, bitchy

987
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: one or the you know that I try and infuse

988
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: with the vulnerability because I think everybody has there, you know,

989
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: even if they're the antagonist, they have their own thing.

990
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: You know.

991
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: There's a there's a serial killer role that I want

992
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: to play so badly and I'm trying to get made.

993
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of layers to this character, right,

994
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: but she would be a pretty bigger than life character

995
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: as well.

996
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: But I just really want to.

997
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: And I don't get it that often to play more

998
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: your every every woman, every person type thing and a

999
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: story about whatever the story is.

1000
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: Am I making any sense?

1001
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think? I mean, I mean how I interpret

1002
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: what you're saying so I don't want to put words

1003
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: in your mouth is like ultra realism, which actually makes

1004
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: sense to me because of Yeah, there's been a lot

1005
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: that has been stylized for you so far, in your career.

1006
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: And so when I think about like Ozark, Breaking Bad

1007
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: had its own sort of sensibility. But I but but ultimately, yeah,

1008
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: sort of ultra realism. That's how I would kind of

1009
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: define that.

1010
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: I now have a word for or for what it

1011
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: is I haven't I tell I just told my guy

1012
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: the other day. I was like, I'm better when words

1013
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: are written for me and then I make them pun

1014
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: to life.

1015
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: Like I'm not very good on my own. I can't.

1016
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a good improver, not good thinker on my feet.

1017
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: So thank you for giving me the word for that.

1018
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I had a slice of it. This year,

1019
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: I've done two indie films and I played played a

1020
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: character version of a real woman that has a breast

1021
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: cancer survivor story. And I played off a book called

1022
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: Walk Beside Me by Christine Handy and I did that

1023
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: this the beginning of the year, and that was but

1024
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: and that was ultra realism. I'm telling this woman's story

1025
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: and that was really interesting for me to be able

1026
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: to do because I don't I haven't really gotten that

1027
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: opportunity that often.

1028
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: The other movie, I believe you're referring to the Great

1029
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: sail Ish tell me about the film. It's a it's

1030
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: a comedy, right it is.

1031
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: It's I actually haven't even seen it yet. That's not

1032
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: the one I was talking about. I just the other

1033
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: one I was talking about was called Primitive War that

1034
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: I just came back from filming in Australia, but it's

1035
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: not out yet.

1036
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 3: But it was a lot of fun.

1037
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: But The Great Salish Heist was Actually it's a small,

1038
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: small movie. I played a very small role in it.

1039
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: I play a museum curator. That it is a comedy.

1040
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: Dennis Daryl wrote and produced it, and it's it's really

1041
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: about the First Nations and their struggle throughout throughout history

1042
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: of recovering their artifacts and their land.

1043
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: And certain things like that.

1044
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: And so so there's there's a museum exhibit that they

1045
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: are sending off. So I play the museum curator that

1046
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: thinks that she she's not malicious, she doesn't come from it.

1047
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: You know, she comes from a mindset of let's show

1048
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: these artifacts to the world as a to they wanted,

1049
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, Dennis's Carroll character wants to keep the artifacts

1050
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: for themselves, right and you.

1051
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: You know, you could see both sides.

1052
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: But I play a very small role in but it's

1053
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: it's there. It's a heist movie, so it's their plan

1054
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: of reclaiming the artifacts.

1055
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: Got it? Is it going to be available and wide release?

1056
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: Do you know what the plan is? You haven't seen

1057
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:22,479
Speaker 2: it yet.

1058
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: I have not seen it yet.

1059
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: No, it's a At this point, it's just doing kind

1060
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: of the festival circuit up in Canada, so I have

1061
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: not seen that yet.

1062
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: But all right, Well do you do comic cons?

1063
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 3: I do? I have it. I don't do a lot

1064
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: of them.

1065
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: I with Battlestar and Lucifer and Ben Helsing and things

1066
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: like that. I was at San Diego quite a bit

1067
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: when those were airing, but I haven't. I did the

1068
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: OD I just did one in Perth, Australia on the

1069
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: way back from from filming Primitive War on the Gold Coast.

1070
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: Really yeah, So I.

1071
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: Do them every once in a while. I've got I've

1072
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: got two coming up this year. I've got a Battlestar

1073
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: Galactica reunion coming up in Chicago, which will be really fun,

1074
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: and then I've got to loose for one coming up

1075
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: in September in Birmingham, England.

1076
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that I was supposed to do

1077
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 2: that one time the fact that you have these three

1078
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: shows that are so big in that world. I mean,

1079
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: that's that's what I mean. Yeah, we need to get

1080
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: you on something ultra realistic because like you have like

1081
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: spanned the like large scale comic DC world.

1082
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: But I've never been in a superhero.

1083
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: I've never been in a big movie, like a big

1084
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: Marvel or anything like that type of movie.

1085
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 3: I've never been. I've never been in a big movie.

1086
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: We don't changed that.

1087
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: I was in Bombshell, but I was in a tiny

1088
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: role I actually played. I listened to your episode and

1089
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: Cameronda today.

1090
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: God, I was supposed to. I was supposed to say

1091
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: that it's here in my papers. Yes, how delightful is hurt?

1092
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: Do you know her? Have you met her? No?

1093
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: I have not, And but she was absolutely Yeah. I

1094
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: used to watch her on CNN years ago. But yeah,

1095
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: I think she's delightful. But I've never met her in person.

1096
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: But I specifically was.

1097
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I want to listen to this one.

1098
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I played her in Bombshell, so a

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Speaker 1: couple of couple of scenes, very small scenes.

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Speaker 2: Well, she's interesting. At least she didn't she didn't send

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Speaker 2: you a hate mail?

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Speaker 1: No, no, not at all. I think we corresponded over

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Speaker 1: Twitter briefly or DMed each other briefly. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it was before, before the movie came out

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Speaker 1: or after, but but the director had said he thinks

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Speaker 1: she'll like my performance, So that's what I went on.

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Speaker 2: Is it fun for you? The fanaticism with which people

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Speaker 2: hold I mean, you just mentioned three shows, but I'll

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Speaker 2: stick very specifically to Battlestar Galactica because even with Lucifer

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Speaker 2: and Van helsing and all that, I mean, Battlestar Galactica

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Speaker 2: is just well, I mean, it's it's a it's a cultural,

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Speaker 2: pop culture iconic show. Does the fanaticism with which people,

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Speaker 2: uh celebrate that show? Is that fun for you? Always?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Is that difficult for you?

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Speaker 3: It is? I don't. I don't find it difficult because

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Speaker 3: I look at it in.

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Speaker 1: A few ways that like, you know, we're describing comic

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Speaker 1: cons that type of thing I've described it is.

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Speaker 3: What's the difference of going to.

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Speaker 1: See a you know, I watched the hockey game last

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Speaker 1: night and people were dressed up with their favorite jersey

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Speaker 1: and yeah, their faces painted the colors of the team.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference of going to a comicon and people

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Speaker 1: are dressed up as their favorite character or something like that.

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Speaker 1: There's really no it's it's a coming together of a

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Speaker 1: like minded enjoyment.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: But I don't often get recognized in public for number six,

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Speaker 1: So it's not like it affects me too much personally

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Speaker 1: out on the street, so to speak, because I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't walk around, you know, I don't have the

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Speaker 1: white hair that was more iconic with the character. I

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Speaker 1: had versions of the character that had my own hair

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Speaker 1: color in later seasons. But right but the you know,

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Speaker 1: the the one that people think of is the white

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Speaker 1: the platinum haired one, and I look different. I mean

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Speaker 1: I kind of sometimes it gets self conscious about it

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Speaker 1: because unless I'm all dulled up, it's almost like I

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Speaker 1: disappoint people in person, like.

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Speaker 2: They like that you don't look like Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is a whole other We could have a huge

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Speaker 2: conversation about just this topic alone. You know. I think

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Speaker 2: it's and I'm saying this from a like a culture again,

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Speaker 2: like a cultural standpoint. I think that the beautiful people

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Speaker 2: in our business get recognized less. Don't know why I

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Speaker 2: have been sitting this is the story I always tell,

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Speaker 2: which is a totally true story. Sitting at a sushi

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Speaker 2: restaurant with myself and Mandy Moore and John Krasinski, people

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Speaker 2: would come up to the table for me and not

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Speaker 2: even noticed that they were there. Just it's it's und

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Speaker 2: you can't even figure this out. I mean, I do

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Speaker 2: have a distinctive head, but I'm probably wearing a hat.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the crazy thing. I know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I always thought, like I look at it too, is

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Speaker 1: like often I changed hair and makeup or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I'm a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit of a chameleon in that way, Like different

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Speaker 1: hair and makeup really changes me. And I know that

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Speaker 1: from my modeling days. I can look different with a

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Speaker 1: soft makeup or a dramatic makeup or dark hair. Like

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Speaker 1: even people I know if I changed my hair color

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Speaker 1: don't recognize being off the top.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. Maybe there's something to that. Did

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Speaker 3: you just call me a pretty person now again?

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Speaker 2: I said culturally? I said culturally the idea of attracted.

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Speaker 2: What did I say pretty? I don't think I said pretty,

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Speaker 2: I don't. Somebody checked the tape Trasa.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you did, I appreciate it, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm fifty now, and that's kind of has an expiration

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Speaker 1: date in Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: So you don't you don't look you don't look a

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Speaker 2: day over fifty. I mean, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm a day in maybe a month, month

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Speaker 1: and a half over fifty.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me. I wish you

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Speaker 2: all success. I mean, listen, here's here's the sum total

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Speaker 2: of what I heard. Okay, you discussed having a career lull,

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Speaker 2: and you've shot two movies this year. Okay, and we're

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Speaker 2: only in June. So let's just say I think you're

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Speaker 2: doing just fine. Enjoy your cats, Enjoy Chattahoochee City, and hey,

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Speaker 2: I'll be down there. My family's still there. I'll look

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Speaker 2: you up and we'll go to a hockey game.

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Speaker 3: Come visit.

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Speaker 2: Loved it, all right, all right, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Bryan, Thank you Tricia.

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Speaker 2: I am so glad that we got to catch up.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that conversation and to hear your amazing story.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that I can advise young actors to

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Speaker 2: go standing around outside movie theaters waiting for their big break.

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Speaker 2: But the world is a better place now because you did. Listeners.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing you all here again next week.

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Speaker 2: It's summer. Get outside, but keep me in your ears

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Speaker 2: while you do it. Have a great week. Off the

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Speaker 2: Beat is hosted and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner,

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