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Speaker 1: dedicated only to basketball. Last week repreviewed a couple of teams.

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Speaker 1: This week we're gonna take you kind of out east.

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Speaker 1: We talked a lot of Lakers last week. Um, you're

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Speaker 1: seeing the Lakers and Anthony Davis. The time of this

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Speaker 1: recording is coming off of forty and twenty. The I,

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Speaker 1: without any question, in my mind, is a top five

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Speaker 1: and the Knicks owner went on Michael Kay radio here

424
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Speaker 1: in New York and you know pretty much said they

425
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Speaker 1: expected to get some big name free agents and there

426
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Speaker 1: was a lot of you know, expectations and hope. There

427
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Speaker 1: was talk of them getting die On And there's a

428
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Speaker 1: back page of the New York Post here in New

429
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Speaker 1: York with Durant, Kyrie and die On all in Knicks jerseys.

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Speaker 1: You know. Now none of those guys are here. Um,

431
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Speaker 1: and they had the next have r J. Barrett and

432
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Speaker 1: the Nets have Kyrie and KD. I do think the

433
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Speaker 1: Nets are you know, ahead of the next right now?

434
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Speaker 1: And um, you know you've got to think they'll be

435
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Speaker 1: at least of a strong playoff team, you know, with

436
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Speaker 1: Durant and Kyrie next year. Yeah, Um, what about what

437
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Speaker 1: about the Knicks. Um, they're in this weird place where

438
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Speaker 1: they were trying to play Dennis Smith at the point

439
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: he can't shoot and that that weird said. Then you know,

440
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Speaker 1: he had a death in the family, so he left

441
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Speaker 1: the team, but he was going to be going to

442
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Speaker 1: come off the bench. Um, like you know, Dallas couldn't

443
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Speaker 1: wait to get rid of him. They just felt like

444
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Speaker 1: he wasn't great for their culture. Couldn't shoot was the

445
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Speaker 1: you know, is unbelievable in layup linds and in the

446
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Speaker 1: open court, but in terms of being a real basketball player,

447
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Speaker 1: couldn't do it. Um, Fizzdale is a guy who you know,

448
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Speaker 1: they brought in to kind of change the culture, and

449
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: everyone likes Fizz. But they couldn't land a free agent.

450
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Speaker 1: They end up getting r J Barrett, who you know,

451
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Speaker 1: might be the best you know, might be the best

452
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Speaker 1: pro of any of the guys drafted. And even though

453
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Speaker 1: Zion obviously he's gonna get a lot of eyeballs once

454
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Speaker 1: he starts playing. What what's what's the status of the

455
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Speaker 1: Knicks early through this season, Well, I think that r

456
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Speaker 1: J has been, you know, a bright spot. I mean,

457
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Speaker 1: you bring up for a couple of points there, you know,

458
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Speaker 1: dined with the point guard situation and everything, r J

459
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Speaker 1: has been a bright spot. He's averaging I think twenty

460
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Speaker 1: and a half points through four games. And let's remember

461
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Speaker 1: that before as I Am became Zion, you know, all

462
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Speaker 1: the NBA guys I talked to and all the NBA

463
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Speaker 1: guys in general said r J was the consensus number

464
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Speaker 1: one pick and he was gonna be the best pro

465
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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously John Morant's playing really well, and

466
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Speaker 1: some other guys Tyler heroes playing really well. But you know,

467
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Speaker 1: r J looks like the real deal. And there's some

468
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Speaker 1: you know, real questions about Dion's health and his his

469
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Speaker 1: knees going forward. So I think Knicks fans are excited

470
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Speaker 1: about r J. You know, there's obviously a lot of

471
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Speaker 1: criticism early about Fitzdale's coaching because they started owing three.

472
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Speaker 1: The point guard situation is really up in the air.

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Speaker 1: You know, if if Dennis Smith kind of turns out

474
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Speaker 1: to be a bust and he's all they have to

475
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Speaker 1: show for the Christeps Porzingis trade um and and Porzingis

476
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Speaker 1: goes on to blossom in Dallas with Luca don Check,

477
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Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be a lot of unhappy you know,

478
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Speaker 1: Knicks fans about that situation. You know, they have frankiel

479
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Speaker 1: A Kina, who played really well in the World Cup

480
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Speaker 1: and kind of shut Kemba down in the in the

481
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Speaker 1: quarterfinals there, but he's not much of an offensive player,

482
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Speaker 1: and then he has Alfred Payton. So um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't say I just don't think the Knicks are

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Speaker 1: gonna be zach good this year. But you know, they

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Speaker 1: do have r J, and they got some tough players,

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Speaker 1: Julius Randall, Marcus Morris, Bobby Porter has had a big

487
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Speaker 1: game the other night. But I can't see them winning

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Speaker 1: more than you know, thirty games. So yeah, I tend

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Speaker 1: to agree. So what what is what's the next plan

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Speaker 1: is to try and get honest like what Yeah, obviously

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Speaker 1: if Durant and Kyrie was plan A, like or is

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Speaker 1: it just built around r J? Like, what what is

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Speaker 1: what's the plan B? Or see whatever plan there on? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they're obviously their plan was to get

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Speaker 1: k D and Kyrie and then they tried to make

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Speaker 1: it sound as if, you know, they're they were all

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Speaker 1: ready for a plan B. I signing, you know, seven

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Speaker 1: free agents to two year deals. I think Julius Randall

499
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Speaker 1: is the only guy with a three year deal, so

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Speaker 1: you know, in a year from now, they'll have cap

501
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Speaker 1: flexibility and you know, they could go after Janice or

502
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Speaker 1: something like that. But I just think, um, you know,

503
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Speaker 1: there's no real light at the end of the tunnel.

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Speaker 1: Some people think as long as Jim Dolan the team,

505
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Speaker 1: they're kind of cursed and they'll just never be that good.

506
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: And you know, the fans are desperate here in New York.

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Speaker 1: They want to win, are they? You know, whenever they

508
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Speaker 1: win a game, the fans are all fired up. Um,

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Speaker 1: so they deserve, you know, something a little better than

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Speaker 1: what they have right now. Alright, last thing. Next week,

511
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Speaker 1: I know you'll be in New York. I'm gonna try

512
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Speaker 1: and be New York as well for the UH for

513
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Speaker 1: the Champions Classic, which you know, look yearly kind of

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Speaker 1: doesn't disappoint. Um, you know, it's it's kind of Duke's

515
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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting this year because they don't have the

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Speaker 1: best freshman, right they don't have Zion I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Cole Anthony and obviously you know, between Georgia and North

518
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Speaker 1: Carolina probably have the two best prospects, right. Um, Kansas

519
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Speaker 1: has what looks like a ridiculously talented team, but they're

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Speaker 1: you know, they're under the cloud of of the n

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Speaker 1: c A investigation. Michigan State is very highly rated, but again,

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Speaker 1: Michigan State still kind only has one guard. Like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I I still feel like they're so beholden

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Speaker 1: to Cassius Winston to make plays that that that that

525
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Speaker 1: may end up ultimately being their uh their demise. Give

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Speaker 1: me your kind of early thoughts getting ready for the

527
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Speaker 1: Champions Classic. Yeah, a couple of things there, you Maxine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I did a big story yesterday on Forbes about, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be sixty or seventy NBA scouts

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Speaker 1: at the event, like there are every year, and last year,

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Speaker 1: you know, they came away kind of raving about r

532
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Speaker 1: J and Zion and this year, if you look at

533
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Speaker 1: like the mock draft, like Jonathan Gibonies mock draft on ESPN,

534
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Speaker 1: there isn't a single top ten projected draft pick on

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Speaker 1: these four teams. Um, you know, the number one pick

536
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Speaker 1: is projected as James Wisen at Memphis and then Anthony

537
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Speaker 1: Edwards Georgia Cole, Anthony LaMelo Ball. So it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a weird year where Kentucky Doke Kansas, Michigan State. They

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Speaker 1: don't even have the top ten guy. The highest projected

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Speaker 1: guys like Khalil Whitney who's a freshman at Kentucky and

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Speaker 1: he's about number eleven. Now that said, both teams have

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, good players and good freshman

543
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Speaker 1: but there's no Zion r J here Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think just taking a step back into college basketball season,

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Speaker 1: you know there are teams with experience, Kansas, Michigan State,

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Speaker 1: Seton Hall. I think you could put in that category, Florida,

547
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Speaker 1: and then you have some of these you know, one

548
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Speaker 1: and done teams, Duke, Kentucky, Memphis and in recent years, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know we've seen dugs. Of the teams that have

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Speaker 1: won have generally been these older teams. You know, Villanova

551
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Speaker 1: won it twice with experienced teams, Carolina wanted, Virginia won it.

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Speaker 1: Really only two teams in the decade or so of

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Speaker 1: the one and done who relied on freshmen have won

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Speaker 1: it Duke in twenty fifteen in Kentucky. And so you

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Speaker 1: know that being said, the odds seemed to be against

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Speaker 1: Kentucky or Duke or even you know, Penny Hardway's Memphis

557
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Speaker 1: team winning it this year, and it would seem to

558
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Speaker 1: be a you know, Michigan State, Kansas, you know, the

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Speaker 1: set the Hall, you know type of year. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would say this, and look, Kansas has a ton of experience,

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Speaker 1: right with Garrett uh Boji the Suza you do Udoka

562
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Speaker 1: as a bouquet you know, who's just never been healthy,

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Speaker 1: they do have the ability I think to go small. UM.

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Speaker 1: But I think the thing that all four of these

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Speaker 1: teams have is they have returning starter at point guard,

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Speaker 1: and you know, like Trey Jones, I think can can

567
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Speaker 1: lift Duke. You know, Duke may not have it, but

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like if his brother hadn't left, how

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Speaker 1: many more national championships would Duke have Duke have? And

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Speaker 1: Trey Jones stays And granted, I don't think he would

571
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Speaker 1: have been a first round draft pick, but who knows.

572
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: UM anyway, so you have you know, I think Dotson

573
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Speaker 1: is a tremendous college guard. I don't know if he

574
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Speaker 1: can shoot it well enough to ultimately be a pro,

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Speaker 1: but he'll play be an NBA player I don't know

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Speaker 1: how good. UM. And then of course, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Michigan State might have the best returning point guard in

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Speaker 1: terms of leader. And then Hagen's being back for for

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Speaker 1: for Kentucky, I think, and and they add Nates Sistina

580
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Speaker 1: and who transfers in from buck now is a grad transfer,

581
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: so you have experience at the point. And then you

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Speaker 1: have a grad transfer who he's not an NBA player,

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Speaker 1: but he's a really good college player. So I think

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Speaker 1: they'll be This will be better basketball than is normally

585
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: played at the Champions Classic, specifically because you have the

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Speaker 1: experience of the point guard position. Yeah. I mean it's funny.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about I think at least two

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Speaker 1: sophomores that are right, Trey Jones and Aston Hagans and

589
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: Dotson are all sophomores. Right, So we're at the point

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00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: now in college in college basketball, Doug, where we're calling sophomores,

591
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: you know, experienced players, which is pretty funny. But yeah,

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00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: everything you said there is right. I I do think Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a potential, will be really really good. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to see. You know, they've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of guards and wings. Um. You know, Hagan's kind of

596
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: blossomed into the point guard last year, and then they

597
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: have all kinds of wings. Khalil Whitney is a super bouncy,

598
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Speaker 1: you know, athletic future NBA wings Um, Kian Brooks, you know,

599
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: Johnny Jusan, Dante Allen, all these guys. And then they

600
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Speaker 1: have you know a couple of big guys who couldn't

601
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Speaker 1: make it to the NBA yet, Nick Richards, E. J.

602
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Montgomery and then they have seen it, uh coming in,

603
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Speaker 1: so I think they're gonna be pretty deep and preloaded. Duke.

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00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: You know, we'll just have to see, right if it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of young guys plus plus Trey Jones and

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00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: a couple of older guys. You know, I think you've

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Speaker 1: got to think Michigan State and Kansas are going to

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Speaker 1: be in the mix for Final four National Championship the

609
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Speaker 1: whole way. You know, Kansas is gonna be kind of

610
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Speaker 1: have this cloud of the n c A investigation over

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Speaker 1: it all year. They seem to be having fun with it.

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Speaker 1: They had Snoop Dog at there at their you know,

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Speaker 1: Late Night with the Fox. So it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 1: how Bill felf And and Sean Miller and coaches who

615
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: are under the cloud sort of handle that all year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for Duke, and I've seen cash of Stanley obviously going

617
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Speaker 1: up out here. He's he's actually older than Trey young.

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Speaker 1: He's like a I don't know, I think he's he

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Speaker 1: might be twenty or close to twenty already, And had

620
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Speaker 1: he gone somewhere where he would have had to handle

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Speaker 1: the ball more, I wouldn't have loved it. But he uh,

622
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Speaker 1: if he can be sort of a blend player, just

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Speaker 1: kind of a wing. Well he is that he's I

624
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Speaker 1: don't think I'll ever live up to his reputation in

625
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Speaker 1: building when he's a high school freshman. But I do

626
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Speaker 1: think he picked a really really good spot, you know,

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Speaker 1: to bring out kind of the best in him. I'll

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Speaker 1: be I'll be fasting to see how he adjusts to

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Speaker 1: play against the there. They'll have more experience at Kansas,

630
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Speaker 1: but I don't know how much older they are because

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Speaker 1: he's a really old old freshman sacause I know you're

632
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Speaker 1: super busy man. You do a great job. People can

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Speaker 1: follow you on Twitter, uh, they can read your stuff

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Speaker 1: in the New York Times, in Forbes uh, and of

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Speaker 1: course see you on s n Y TV. Look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing you at the garden around the hoops world,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. Okay, so a couple

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Speaker 1: of quick things, obviously, the Kyrie stuff. However, however, Jackie

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Speaker 1: McMullin got it right or got it wrong, I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't really care. The point is that Kyrie can

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Speaker 1: be a pain in the ask, can shut down on dudes,

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Speaker 1: can be a weird kind of difficult personality at times

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Speaker 1: that's okay, can have a locker room full of type

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Speaker 1: A guys or type guys, there's gonna be quirky dudes.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know whether he's a leader. And

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Speaker 1: then Kevin Durants a great player, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's a leader. I will say that k D

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Speaker 1: so far, you know now he's breaking red with first take,

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Speaker 1: and he does seem to at least be handling this

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Speaker 1: very maturely and understanding by not playing he can kind

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Speaker 1: of tiptoe into the whole New York market and feel

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Speaker 1: his own superstardom. My only question with the Nets is

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Speaker 1: when Katie returns, is he still the KD that was

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Speaker 1: the best player in the league before he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: The likelihood is no, But I don't know. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be a guy that's can be totally changed

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Speaker 1: by losing a half step because he wasn't strictly speed,

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Speaker 1: quickness and explosive one like Derrick Rose when he lost

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Speaker 1: his step, you know, like um, like the Lakers. I

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Speaker 1: don't like that Frank Vogel keeps mentioning region Rondo like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna change them. I think they're point guard away.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this some last week, but you can

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Speaker 1: see Anthony Davis is in fact their best player, and

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Speaker 1: Lebron James is trying to figure out at this stage

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Speaker 1: in his career struggles to get by. People can make shots,

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Speaker 1: and they figured out if they can make him the

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Speaker 1: third or fourth or fifth best defender. Now they're a

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Speaker 1: really good defensive team. The big big thing with Rondo

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Speaker 1: is Rondo hasn't been good in five years and has

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Speaker 1: been great and ten don't think he's a lockdown defender.

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Speaker 1: He used to be. All right, more on NBA. We'll

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