1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Revere dalks. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life, 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: this is our passion. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this shows. 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Is this this Morning Combat? 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're back. Oh yeah right, oh yeah. I 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: don't know if you can see us or hear us. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to technical Difficulties, Starry h Look Thomas, Brian Campbell, 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: the award don't Morning Combat, the multi award winning We've 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: got a fantastic combat show for you most days, nearly 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: every day, and today we are on the grounds in Glendale, Arizona. 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: One more sleep, as John Annack would say, with his 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: new contract on the UFC Anderson Silva, Jake Paul this 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: Boxing Extravaganza Showtime pay per view. It's been a wild week, Luke, 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: we got a great show for you today, look ahead 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: to the UFC Fight Night. Maybe tame, Maybe tame was 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: what I wanted. But you know the Donald horse that 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: Jake rode in on took a little bite out of 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: crime on some. 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: Lt right Old McGriff. 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm the big guy. That's Luke Thomas. 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: You know you can watch his dissected of Jake Thomas, 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: Jake Jacob Paul Thomas Anderson's boxing ability as well. So 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: much great bonus content. So, Luke, what you and I 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: were talking earlier when the ship fell apart? Here Live 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: was you know, YouTube dot com, slash Morning Comment great 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: place to go for bonus content, you know, dissected Doctor 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: Mike sit Down. But last night on this very couch, 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: we did resurrect the real talk like the men do, 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: Danny Sigurha. 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: We definitely resurrected the gibberish talk. 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: What I can't figure out is if last night was 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: the very best of us or you know, the cracks 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: are showing the beginning of the end too much, BC, 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: because I thoroughly enjoyed it, you know what I mean? 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, just farting up the room with your with your. 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: With my shitty humor. 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was okay. I thought it was okay. 40 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: I had its moments, but it was a little bit 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: too uh sloppy for me, a little bit too sloppy. 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: See, I got a little nervous, and the pregame it 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: looked like live Show. Luke was back. It did like, 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: you know, I'm filling these barbaritas. Probably like if it 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: looked like that guy was here, so I kind of 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: stepped up my chemical Actay. 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: WoT you tell people the truth, which is that you 48 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: woke up five minutes before that thing and you had 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: to be They had to get the paddles out to 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: get you go. 51 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: I tell the staff often though, I'm a red light guy. No, 52 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: not not Amsterdam when I've got, you know, feeling frisky 53 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: and I got a little bit of extra cash in 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: my pocket and it's government regulated out there. Not that 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: type of red light, all right, not rock Sand, you 56 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean, that woman of the night right, 57 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But Luke, you know I 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: do deliver. But the question is do I over deliver? 59 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: That's really the question. But shout out to our great 60 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: friends for joining us. Pregame preview. Last night Luke felt 61 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: a lot like the maybe the perfect marriage. Like certain 62 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: things don't go together, right, you see, stopped telling the 63 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: world like. 64 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: That searsucker shirts and or sersucker jackets and easy shirts. 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: Like you know, peanut butter and cheese aren't supposed to 66 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: go together, but it's perfect, right, Luke. I want to 67 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: know if last night was the perfect gathering of all 68 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: of the Juggalo vibes together, meaning mmab old school Days, 69 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: pregame preview room service diaries one point zero and just 70 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: like a really fun sausage party. Did you get that that? 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's first a lot, that's just the contradiction 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: in terms a really fun sausage party. Like no one's 73 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: ever said that what the sausage party was great? 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: You know, well, it depends what position you're playing on 75 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: the team, you know what I mean. 76 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but even then, you know, a little bit more 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: of a mixed crowd usually lavins it up. So I 78 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: thought it was a bit of a mess. Candidly thought 79 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: it was a bit of a mess. 80 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: Okay, a beautiful disaster, if you will. 81 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: Beautiful is a strong word. I'd use more like regrettable, you. 82 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Know, okay, okay, like like this turn for your career 83 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: into MK, like you know, it's award winning turn. But 84 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: you can get a Lanya hanging out with you. 85 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get a little the BC old Man sauce 86 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: no Magusta. 87 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's been a great week so far. 88 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: In a coffee over there, Jesus Christ and the. 89 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: Savior, no question about it. It's been a well, well, 90 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: well I'm an each walking in. 91 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: The prodigal sun has returned. Wow, a little hungover. 92 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: He's like, stop sharing my business with the world. I 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: want to thank all of our great fans for liking 94 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: this video, subscribing to what we're doing at morning, comeback, 95 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: fueling our jet pack to be able to outlast, outshine 96 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: our competition and whatever these awards are worth. Hey, we 97 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: keep winning them. But you can follow us buil, you 98 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: can like what we're doing here as always share your feedback. 99 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: You guys don't hold back, so you know, tell us 100 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: the truth and we'll probably or he'll ignore most of it. 101 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: But that's fine. We love what we do. Thank you 102 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: for being here. A reminder that later today you got 103 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: to get ready for the ceremonial way and Jake, Paul 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: Anderson Silva will be the friendship, the love, the respect 105 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: turn into a turn into tention. Tune in for that. 106 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: Luke and I will be hosting. Ariel Jwani will be 107 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: on the scene. And don't forget about Saturday night, nine 108 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: pm Eastern Time is Paul Silva the pay per view 109 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: that you can order right now by the way showtime 110 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: dot com slash PPV. But we're gonna appetize you a 111 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: little bit MK style BC in LT. Seven pm on 112 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: the East. 113 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: No, it's gonna be five pm on here, so eight 114 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: pm in the in the East. 115 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: I think it's seven. I think it's seven, right. 116 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: No, no, no doors open at four doors open it. Yeah, 117 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: I told you all. 118 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: Luke's on top of it. 119 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 120 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: Five pm in the West, eight pm Eastern. It's a 121 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: you know countdown, it's showtime boxing uh, preliminary action with 122 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: us on the call, special guests zooming out rapidly and aggressively. 123 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: There we are, We're back. I think we're back. We're good. 124 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: I think we should just punt at this point, just 125 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: show yeah, just punt. 126 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: Maybe this can be one of those bcs cony we're 127 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: trying to get off the ground, but nobody will back 128 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: me on that idea. 129 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm not the one who gets in the way of that. Listen, 130 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: we couldn't convert on their down. 131 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: Let's just let's just how are the Commanders this season? 132 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about that pain at all? 133 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: Not really watching. I haven't watched a single down of 134 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: a single game. 135 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't you think ever since Kirk Cousins left that 136 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: the you know, people blame Rgie three, but really, since 137 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: Kirk cousins left that they're just free falling into the toilet. 138 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: You like that. 139 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't think he was the long term solution either. 140 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: You know, these guys are making Jason Campbell every day, 141 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: my cousin, my brethren look more and more valuable. He 142 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: wasn't the perfect quarterback, but he could handle a team. 143 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. He took a lot of punishment though. He was 144 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: getting sacked like a motherfucker. 145 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 146 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: I think it blew up his body. He's not in 147 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: the league anymore obviously, so there's that. 148 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, this is evolved into like regional NFL breakdown talk. 149 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: You know this is great? Yeah, many, Oh you don't 150 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: want Luke. I wanted to talk to you about Halloween 151 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: and maybe specifically that that overgrown halloweenie that you're parading around. 152 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: You know what, Michael Meyer, Sure is scary, bec but 153 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: the last thing you need is to be hair this Halloween. 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It's a nose and 180 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: air hair trimmer, right, like is it you are? We 181 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: still may see that rematch, by the way, betor fad 182 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: or it's still it's still in play, still in play. 183 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: What I was trying to say was that, look, they 184 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: got the proprietary skin safe technology that helps prevent the knicks, 185 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: snags and tugs that we just talked about avoiding on 186 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: the bag. Now in your damn delicate ear hole, if 187 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: you use that weed whacker. Look, don't be I can't 188 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: say it enough. Don't be the guy who's still in 189 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: the game thirty five forty one years old. 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We want 210 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: you to get twenty percent off and free shipping onmanscape 211 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 2: dot com by using our code combat with a K. 212 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: That's it's pretty easy. 213 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: Right, Luke certainly is get twenty percent off plus free 214 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: shipping with the code combat at manscaped dot com. 215 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: Look, do you want to give a This is the 216 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: time for you to parent the children that are complaining that. 217 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: You know, MK got too big and now they have 218 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: too many ad reads. 219 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: Guys, we need to make money. I mean, I don't 220 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,479 Speaker 1: know what to tell you. If I had a better explanation 221 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: to give you, I would give it to you. But 222 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: we have to pay for this. 223 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to grow I mean too, you need shoes, right, 224 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: what if she needs braces one day? 225 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: Brenda's got a baby. 226 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Wow. You know Tupac was responsible on some of those 227 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: early lyrics. 228 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I don't know if that was the 229 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: word I would choose. 230 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: But hail Marra one, two, three, Right, I. 231 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: Don't think he says that right to die. 232 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna start with topic one today. We do have 233 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: an actual show for you, Paul Silva, Jake, Paul Anderson Silva. 234 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: The odds have flipped eight rounds cruiserweight ish boxing match, 235 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty seven pound catchweight. We know the stakes, 236 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: we know the storylines. Hopefully we've done a great job 237 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: of setting that up. But Luke, to revisit and recap 238 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: the narratives coming in. We got one more stop on 239 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: the on the press tour. I think they're weighing in 240 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: officially right now. Right, They're gonna have a ceremonial weigh 241 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: in later today. We'll be on the call. You can 242 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: check it out. Luke. This is the last time I'll 243 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: bring this up. Does this does the switch have to 244 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: flip today? Maybe not just for Jake to find that 245 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: eye of the tiger, but to get that last reach 246 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: out to the public that we got we got something 247 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: potentially special here. Does it need a little, you know, 248 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: edge to sell that today? Jake need to let the 249 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: old man know that I'm not here to take pictures 250 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: with you anymore. Meme your ass. 251 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: I don't care largely in that sense. Does he need 252 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: to need to in what sense like for pay per 253 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: view buys. 254 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: A combination of aggressive marketing, which he's. 255 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: Very good at pay per view buys, yes, pushing and 256 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: shoving at the way, and sometimes. 257 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: Trying to let Anderson know that I've been a gentleman 258 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: up to here. I've I've been very reverent to you. 259 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: We took pictures. Welcome. 260 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna wait, no, no, no, no, no, no no, He's. 261 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: Gonna go up and slap that old bitch. That's what 262 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Seriously, how many people will see you 263 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: being weird? But like, seriously me, like. 264 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: You only want him to do that, to do that 265 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: because it's been Let's be honest, it's been a relatively 266 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: tame fight week, Like at the presser yesterday, not just 267 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: between Silva and Paul, but at the presser yesterday. I 268 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: don't think there was one you know, bad word said 269 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: about another person's opponent. There were ten fighters on stage. 270 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: Just as a little Paul from the crowd saying that yeah. 271 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm gonna have all the ten guys on 272 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: the stage, not one had one bad thing to say 273 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: about the other. So if that's the case, it's like, 274 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: can Jake change that with a single shove or slap 275 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: at the press? Comp excuse me at the way innes today? Uh, 276 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: the tenor is what the tenor is. Might as well 277 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: just ride it out till the fight night. 278 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: From the standpoint of Hard News this week, in any 279 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: developments beyond the the betting ods flipping constantly, the betting 280 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: ots seem to take the biggest move though, when that 281 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: inter you from September that we reference to anders Anderson 282 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: Silva did with what Mma mania Jim Greese and said 283 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: he got knocked out twice. Turns out he meant knocked down. 284 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: But Luke, the Arizona Commission like as of like yesterday 285 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: early evening, we're having hearings to fully one make sure 286 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 2: that Anderson should be in there. Turns out he passed 287 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: his health test with flying colors? Was this much ado 288 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: about nothing? Was this just like a comment two months, 289 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: you know, a month ago that that was or is 290 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 2: there something hair as we head into this foot I 291 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: don't know. 292 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: I mean, on the one hand, is it entirely plausible 293 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: that a lot of just so much talking happening. I mean, 294 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: it's just unbelievable. 295 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm just teasing. Would would you 296 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: like him to put the control room in the commode 297 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: where you. 298 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: No, that's not fair. But here's what I was gonna say. 299 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: I I uh. 300 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: Sorry, what was the question? 301 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: I got distracted by my own ridiculousness. 302 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: It was about Anderson? Did he get knocked down? Doesn't matter? 303 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah? Like okay, so it does matter in the 304 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: like if you say something like that, the commission, like 305 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: they have a responsibility like that that once you declare 306 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: something like that it doesn't matter what the state is, 307 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: the state then has to at least look into it. 308 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: They have to. So my understanding is they did he 309 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: got an MRI. I really don't know what the value 310 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: is of the MRI in terms of actually looking at 311 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: brain health or current state of brain health, or what 312 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: it would even would the m RI. My understanding is, 313 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: even if he had been knocked out, or to be 314 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: knocked out twice in camp. That wouldn't there wouldn't necessarily 315 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: be signs that the m R I would even pick up. 316 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: It's Arizona. They're not not known as one of the 317 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: more struct commissions. 318 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: Didn't tell me Morris didn't fight in an mix rules 319 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,479 Speaker 2: about with HIV. 320 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: In the state, either this one or West Virginia. It 321 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: was one of the two. 322 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was this one. 323 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: It was this one for sure, So you Mexico, but 324 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, but what was it on Native American territories? 325 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: So that changes the whole game because then the Arizona 326 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: Comission's not involvetip but that's in California. Oh yes, outside 327 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: of the commission was possbility. So I mean, you can 328 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: decide to believe whether or not it was a miscommunication 329 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: based on a language barrier, or if he was stilling 330 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: the truth and if it matters. I tend to think 331 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: that it's probably not true. But you know, do I 332 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: think he's probably had hard rounds of sparring, you know, 333 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: and maybe too much? Maybe, yeah, for sure. 334 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: Probably The headlines out of yesterday's Thursday's press conference again 335 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: wasn't pushing or trash talk. It was this weird bet 336 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: and let you know, Jake Paul has done the bets before, 337 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: Tyron Woodley the tattoo which he got on his ring 338 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: finger there, middle finger, whatever. But Luke, this one was 339 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: a lot different. I don't understand the first half of it, 340 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: which is Jake betting Anderson that if Anderson wins, Jake 341 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: would then gift him with a first MMA. But Anderson 342 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: didn't want a kickboxing rematch, so like, if the guy 343 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: beats you, you're gonna give him an even easier fight. 344 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: I don't understand that at all. But the latter that 345 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: Jake said, well, if I win, you'll be the face 346 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: of my essentially MMA Fighters of so Stiation Slash Union. 347 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: To Anderson's credit, whether he's making a fun moment or not, 348 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: he stood right up and said yes and they shook hands. 349 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: News stories were written about this, you know, where statements 350 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: were put out. Is there something there? Should there be? 351 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: Could there be something here? 352 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: Very skeptical, there's anything here, Like they're really going to 353 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: form an organization based off something they said at a 354 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: press conference. Color me very skeptical? 355 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: Made me feel good though, feel good. 356 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: Sort of yes and no. I mean this is one 357 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: of those moments where it begins to be a little 358 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: bit of a It's a blurred line in terms of 359 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: is Jake actually doing this to help the MMA industry 360 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: or is he using the fact that the industry is 361 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: exploitative as a way to further his own career. I 362 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: tend to think it's probably been a mixture of both. 363 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: Now in the end, I mean, he's a business man, 364 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: so it's got to be both. 365 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: It's got to be both. And the other part is too, 366 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: like if there actually is real progress made, whether it 367 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: was all a big troll job or not is almost 368 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: irrelevant by that point, if it actually happened, So we'll 369 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: see if Jake actually follows through on this. It was 370 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: good for making headlines. I mean, this is the part 371 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: to me like about this whole Jake Paul experience. It 372 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: was one thing to get Tyrone Woodley to fight, and 373 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, to what credibility he ever gained from that, 374 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: you can debate. 375 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: I'll beat you ass. 376 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: That was a good hit, bo ass. But the point 377 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: was Anderson is a new level. And like we said 378 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: this on last night's preview with Danny and Sean, which 379 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: was you know, if you're already a Jake Paul fan, 380 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: it's very interesting, I'm sure for you to go and 381 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: watch to see how he's developed. But if you're not 382 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: already a Jake Paul fan, how interesting is it the 383 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: idea of him trying to be a good boxer. It's 384 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: like he'll only ever get so far. He started way 385 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: too late in life. I don't care how good he is, 386 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: You're not going to get that far with it. But 387 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: the real story, to me the one that's the most interesting. 388 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: And this word intersects with your question, which is this 389 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: guy is obviously using the insecurities in the MMA industry, 390 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: the gaps in pay, and some of the realities about 391 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: how you know, onerous the promoter contracts are and the 392 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: respect and treatment and the respecting treatment as a way 393 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: to further his own career. But I thought the point 394 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: you raised last night was the most interesting one, which is, dude, 395 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: he's given some of these UFC guys a retirement plan, 396 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: no question, Like the whole thing that is the story 397 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: is how far can he take that to superstardom heights 398 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: if he gets iced by Anderson Silverton more than probably not. 399 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: This is probably the end of the road. 400 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: Last year offer in the retirement plan than a bare 401 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: knuckle fight, then a slap fight or whatever it's and 402 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: you get respected, you get a chance to Here's what 403 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: a lot of these. 404 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: But of course, but the other side is if he 405 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: iss Anderson man, he is gonna be He's gonna be 406 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: doing something crazy in this industry. 407 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: Like it's I don't know. It's given the guys the 408 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: respect and the proper sendoff, but it's also giving them 409 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: an opportunity to all of the Jake Paul opponents which 410 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: have tended to straight toward aging mixed martial arts you know, 411 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: name fighter is, he's giving them the chance to compete 412 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: for another payday too, right, you know what I mean, 413 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: whether that's an instant rematch or to become a player 414 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: in this larger silo, which is why I want to 415 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: transition right now. The only other Fight Week development news 416 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: ish wise that we sort of saw related to this 417 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: was Steven Espinoza during the press conference Showtimes sports head saying, 418 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: you know, we brought in George Saint Pierre, who will 419 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: be a broadcaster on Saturday night show. But given that 420 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: Ja GSP was already trying to box Oscar de la Hoya, 421 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: but Dana White Fame blocked in and there was still 422 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: contract verbias that prevented GSP. We've got n Adaz here 423 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: in Chris Avilos corner. Nate's gotta be first in line, 424 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: you would think for the winner of this, you know, 425 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: based on whoever's running the show behind the scenes, what 426 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: is the GSP addition due to the larger conversation. So 427 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: let's say Anderson does ice Jake and you don't need 428 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: an instant rematch, whether it's on Showtime Sports or whether 429 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: it's anywhere else in the larger bubble? Is GSP and 430 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: Nate and Anderson all in this same sort of weird 431 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: boxing super fight crossover bubble? Like a great development this 432 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: week that we're now potentially at GSP to the mix. 433 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: Are there going to be you know, Jake is giving 434 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: people a chance by you could say, exploiting them or 435 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: by trying to feast on their age and their name, 436 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: but he is giving them a chance to beat him 437 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: and make even bigger fights. Are we setting the stage 438 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: for a potential Nate versus Anderson or Anderson versus GSP 439 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: with boxing gloves? Are you moved by this? 440 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Am I moved by it? It's a different question about 441 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: whether or not the market is moved by it. I 442 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: don't exactly know. Would you pay what MMA fans pay 443 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: to see George Saint Pierre versus Anderson Silva box in 444 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three? Some for sure, But like does that 445 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: make a lot of money? I don't, I don't know. 446 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer to that is. I 447 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: think a lot of that. It's hard to say. But 448 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: like we mentioned this last night as well, Like, I 449 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: don't think George Saint Pierre is here in just some 450 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: kind of you know, goodwill ambassador tour or something. He's 451 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: I think he's here to like I. 452 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: Mean, he's kept himself in supreme shape. Yeah, the last 453 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: few years. 454 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: He's waiting for his contract to end so he can 455 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: start doing some of this stuff. I think he wants 456 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: to be a player in some of these sweepsticks if 457 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: if there's a good opportunity that arises. 458 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: Okay, here's what's interesting to me in this larger crossover bubble, 459 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: which does it actually have to be crossover boxing? Could 460 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: it just be MMA? Hear me out on this couch 461 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: last night, we remembered because you and Sean ol Shotty 462 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: had covered Kimbo versus Dada together and we nostalogically, like, hey, 463 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 2: remember when Belator on Spike TV then was a gre 464 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: or I think it was. Did it become paramount yet 465 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: either way? And I'm not sure either way. There was 466 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: that run there where they were aggressively going after the 467 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: Shamrock versus Kimbo slices the Shamrock Gracie three the dot 468 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: of five thousand. I mean, just this aggressive kind of 469 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: circusy matchmaking which was bringing in on regular TV millions 470 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: of viewers. I said offhandedly, like, hey, I kind of 471 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: missed that. That that card in Scott Cooker's deck, that willingness, 472 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: that ability, whether or not it's Bellator or somebody else. 473 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: Forget boxing for a second. What is stopping GSP and 474 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: Earnest and Silver from finally having their fight? And we're 475 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: assuming it wouldn't be sad in the Tito Chuck three 476 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: level level of sadness. It'd be somewhere in the middle 477 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: where we can reverently, you know, say goodbye to them, 478 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: but let them make money in an event. I mean, 479 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: could that be a belletar I'm a made pay per view? 480 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: Is that it? Like? 481 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: I mean, like is there like should that be what 482 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: we're focusing on instead of boxing. Now that everybody's getting 483 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: free of their contract. 484 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Could belatar and I mean, you know, I'm just asking 485 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: a question. Could they afford that? I don't think even 486 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: if it's on pay per view, I don't. 487 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: I don't know how they're in market for that. Is 488 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: there an appetite for that? 489 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: See, here's the thing. The reason why the Jake Paul 490 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: stuff works such that it does is that he is 491 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: the MMA antagonist. We were at a boxing press conference 492 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: yesterday and it was nothing but MMA talk. It was 493 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: nothing but the MMA world the entire time there were 494 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: It is all this way of Jake Paul. Jake Paul 495 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: hasn't picked a fight with Anderson Silva. Jake Paul has 496 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: picked a fight with MMA, and he has trolled it, 497 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: he has needled it, and he is using it to 498 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: advance his career. And you know, it's not clear if 499 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: he'll get he'll be fully successful yet, we'll have to see. 500 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: But if you don't have that antagonism, how how do 501 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: you get MMA fans to pay for that? It's not 502 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: so clear. Like the whole point is that it's Jake 503 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: versus MMA, not guys we love inside MMA who might 504 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: have enough star power, but then again, you know you 505 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: had again that's a different level of star power. We 506 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: had Roy Jones versus Mike Tyson and people. People did 507 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: pay for that. So it's like, would they pay for it? 508 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: But they pay for it maybe, but it's it's not, 509 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: it's not what's what this is. This is a different thing. 510 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: So Jake versus Nate, for example, which is certainly potentially 511 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 2: in play of Jake wins or maybe even if you lose. 512 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember when Connor everyone's going to hate this comparison, 513 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: And again, it's not a comparison in a totalizing way, 514 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: which I always have to make as a disclaimer, But 515 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: I remember when Connor was making his way through the 516 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: ranks and there was a series of fans or even 517 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: media who thought at the time, Okay, the next guy 518 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: is going to be the one to take him out, 519 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: and of course he won on this tremendous run through 520 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: the Alvarez fight. I'm not suggesting Jake is going to 521 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: do that, but I remember the whole entire point of 522 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: watching that was if you were a Connor fan, you 523 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: want to see him succeed. The other part of that 524 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: was if you were a hater, the entire thing was 525 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 1: predicated on the next Okay, it'll be the next guy 526 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: to do it. The first Parier fight. I remember someone 527 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: made a graphic of Parier built as a train and 528 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: Connor standing on the tracks about to get run over 529 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: by it. You know that was the whole thing. What 530 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: you're asking is, is there a market for two big 531 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: superstars to do something different? Certainly possible, but this idea 532 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: is all about antagonism and next man up. 533 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: No, no, but no question about it. All right, Let's 534 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: transition from this into topic too, which is our expert picks, 535 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: not just Jake Silva, Jake Paul, Anderson Silva, but of 536 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: course the UFC fight night this weekend. Luke, it'll go 537 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: down nine pm Eastern tomorrow night as we speak right now, 538 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: and these odds have gone all over the place. Let's 539 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 2: check DraftKings. At the moment, minus one eighty five. Jake 540 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: Paul is your betting favorite. Anderson Silva plus one forty five. Luke, 541 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: Enough of the storylines and the bullshit and the pretense 542 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: and the horses when they touch gloves. You did a 543 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: deep dissected on Jake's actual boxing ability. We've seen Anderson 544 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: Silva upset Chavez Junior in Mexico. What the hell is 545 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: this gonna look like, Luke Thomas. 546 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: First three rounds, I think Jake does. Here's what I think. 547 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: First three rounds. Jake is going to jab and clinch 548 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: a lot. He'll do a lot of stuff where I 549 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: didn't mention this actually in my desk act it was 550 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: too long. But another thing that Jake does. I think 551 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna see this exactly. He's gonna jab, he's gonna 552 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: single shot, single shots, single shots, single shot, and then 553 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: I'll come in with a multi punch combination kind of 554 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: out of nowhere clinch. If Vanderson every tri to move forward, 555 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: and remember Anderson is very evasive and elusive, like literally 556 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: wrapping him up. Control some of that. It's after the 557 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: fourth round if it goes that far, unless one guy 558 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: is just clearly superior to the other. But I think 559 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: it will go past the third, and I think that 560 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: if it does, I think that's when the actual fight start. 561 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: If you're Jake, you need to bag rounds early for sure. 562 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: I like Jake's chances much better if he is bagging 563 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: rounds one through three, or at least two of those 564 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: three round. 565 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: Fear and Anderson. Look, there's obviously a fear if Jake 566 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 2: pushes the pace too much and gets in Anderson's web 567 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: and gets countered like Tito, certainly a fear. Jake seems 568 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: more responsible and smarter than that. So the fear for 569 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: Anderson is to not look around and try to be 570 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: a sniper and throw two little amount of punches. Because 571 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: if under your scenario Jake would bag some rounds, it 572 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: would get hairy late, Harry late. But if Jake could 573 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: survive till the bell, he may be able to sink 574 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: into it. 575 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: This is just what I think. It's like, anything could happen. 576 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: One guy could land on the other and who the 577 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: hell knows, But one way or the other is long 578 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: as the fight goes the distance. As long as the 579 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: fight goes the distance, Anderson Silva is going to figure 580 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: out Jake Paul Like it's going to happen. If by 581 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: round eight, I would be completely surprised. If Anderson's confused 582 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: and doesn't know how to get his offense going and 583 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: everything else is a mess. I just don't believe that. 584 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: I don't believe he's gonna be confused. He may be 585 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: down on the cards, he may be up on the cards. 586 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: But by that point he'll know how to attack Jake Paul, 587 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: what his openings are, what he likes to do, what 588 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: he's looking for, and at that point he'll have a 589 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: much clear sense of how to handle himself. 590 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 591 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: So if the guy is gonna figure you out regardless, 592 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: take rounds early, Take rounds early, and then you can 593 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: mount a little bit of a comeback in the middle 594 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: of late parts, stealing a round or two. That's really 595 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: all he has to do. All he has to do 596 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: is have a strong start and steal a couple late 597 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: and then he can be just fine. But that's really 598 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: to me what it's gonna come down to. Anderson's going 599 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: to figure you out. You might as well get the 600 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: ones that are free and then see how you can 601 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: handle things late. 602 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: Is it more likely if Jake wins and he's the 603 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: betting favor right now? So as much as we with 604 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 2: the MMA backgrounds were certainly you know, echoing Chill Sun 605 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: and opening statements at the first press conference that this 606 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: is he's. 607 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: Jake Paul, Jesus with DraftKings minus two forty, This is 608 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: the oh did it move again? Yeah? Minus two forty. 609 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: As I'm speaking right now. That is crazy minus two forty. 610 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that's that seems very very okay. 611 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 2: What's more likely here? Because that's telling you that there's 612 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: a lot of belief And we talked about on the 613 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: boxing side, everyone's sort of like Anderson's forty seven. This 614 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: kid's young, you can punch, he's big. What are you 615 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: guys thinking. Is it more likely that Jake would knock 616 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: Anderson out with one punch or one punch that leads 617 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: to a finish, or more likely that he would outbox 618 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: him with activity. Yeah, he's got to walk the tight rope. 619 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: He said he had to be perfect. Jake said yesterday, 620 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to be perfect to win this fight, 621 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: And to some degree that is true. Is it more 622 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: likely that he somehow out boxes him or that he 623 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: stops the old legend? If you're leaning. 624 00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: Jake, I think you Jake has to out box him. Certainly, 625 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: a big bomb seems possible. I don't want to. You 626 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: just saw him do it to Woodley. But Woodley is 627 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: a very very different kind of striker. And by the way, 628 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: Chopez Junior did land on Anderson a few times, especially 629 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: early right, some bigger shots that he was able to 630 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: throw a couple of body shots and some harder ones 631 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: up top. But this is why the task for Jake 632 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: is very difficult, is that it's unlikely he'll be able 633 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: to uncork something like that as he did on Woodley, 634 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: which means if you don't have that, you have to 635 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: win five of those eight rounds or something like that. 636 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: And that's you gotta take five rounds from that guy. 637 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: That's not that's not easy to do, but that's really 638 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: what you're kind of face with, which is why I 639 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: go back to what I said before, which is if 640 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: Anderson's going to kind of play around for the first 641 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: few rounds, take it. Take those rounds. You're not going 642 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: to get them later to jab hold, jab hold, make 643 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: it ugly, make it stupid, but take them. Take those rounds. Yeah, 644 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: if you see, if you see Jake getting handled in 645 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: the first three, you see I'll ask you this, if 646 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: you see Jake getting handled where it's not getting like 647 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: super beat up, but he's clearly losing these right, clearly, 648 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Do you really believe Jake can 649 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: mount it comeback. I'm not saying he couldn't land one 650 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: big punch and turn the tide, but like mount a 651 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: sustained attack comeback. I'm very skeptical. 652 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would be a moment of truth 653 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: portion for Jake, you know, not the scenario you first 654 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: laid out where it's kind of pawing and circling and 655 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: did Jake do enough to steal those rounds? Okay? What 656 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: if he's getting handled, what if he's getting countered and 657 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: combinations and he gets even floored. You know, it'll become 658 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: the fight or flight moment for Jake, where my only 659 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: chance to win this may be leaning one thousand percent 660 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: into my youth, good sized strength, and just make it 661 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: a brawl. Now, obviously that could facilitate his exit, like 662 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: it could at any point when you're going gets to 663 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: crafty counter puncher and somebody as smart as Anderson. I mean, 664 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: it's it's funny. It's why like Anderson's such a head 665 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: games master, and it's been tame on the build up here. 666 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: Anderson's head games typically occur inside the fighting ring, then 667 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: outside of it, right luring you to come forward or 668 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: making you think he's hurt or whatever. I wonder if 669 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: this whole knockdown, knocked out thing was Anderson planting a seed. 670 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: Probably not because the interview was from September and it 671 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: just randomly arrived in our lapse three days ago and 672 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: became a big story, right, But it's all part of 673 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: Anderson's not going to be nervous, Like is Jake's only 674 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: chance if it goes that route to enter fight or 675 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: flight mode and make this a frickin' brawl, it's gonna 676 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: be entertainment wise. Theater wise, it's going to be interesting. 677 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: I try to get it's going to go real badly 678 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: for you. It's gonna go real bad. 679 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, have love fights that you really don't know what 680 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: it's going to look like. I felt that for Alivera 681 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: mahuche even though I picked Mahuchev and thought, you know, 682 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: I ended up picking that it would be one side 683 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: in his favor and it was. But when you really 684 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: don't know which way it's going to go this, I 685 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: here's the thing. 686 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: It's like when you look at the improvements from the 687 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: first of the second Woodley fight, there were many of them, 688 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: but the common denominator is his boxing got more vulnerable 689 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: by certainly rounds five or six. Yeah, there's a big 690 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: shift in and that's just common. Like there's not a 691 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: lot of guys who are going to get better as 692 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: the fight goes on. Some do, obviously, our exceptions, our 693 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: guys who can have a couple of you know, big 694 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: two three round spurt in like a twelve round contest. 695 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: But we're not talking about a guy who's a world 696 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: level fighter here. We're talking about a guy who is, 697 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: for a celebrity, a pretty good boxer. Right, That's one 698 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: of the best way to I think, look look at it. 699 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: I you know, the longer this goes, the I he 700 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: has the second half of that fight is the one 701 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: to pay attention to, right, which I cannot overstate that. 702 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: Which unproven attribute or characteristic. When we talk about Jake 703 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: has improved incrementally, he has, and he's now he's been 704 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: off What is it twe eleven and twelve months. If 705 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: there's one thing that is most crucial that he has 706 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: really elevated, what is it? Is it the conditioning to 707 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: to have no fear of gauessing out if this is 708 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: a high paced a rest of fight, you know? Is 709 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: it the IQ adaptations? Is it the defense? 710 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: You know? 711 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: What is it that jab is a weapon? Is what 712 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: needs to have level uped for him? 713 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: To have a chance. I did not see a major 714 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: leveling up in terms of like offensive setups from the 715 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: first to the second fight. There was not a huge 716 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: change to me. It was more and again we'll have 717 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: to see because that was only four months apart. Now 718 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: it's been an additional ten. The biggest changes in between 719 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: the first and second fight are the defensive responsibilities. Much better, footwork, 720 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: much better, staying in the stance, much better, ring generalship, 721 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: much better, proactive clinching. Things that are that protect you 722 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: during the course of a fight, not things that make 723 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: you more lethal exactly. And I guess they all kind 724 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: of feed together. Yes, But you know what I'm trying 725 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: to say, This is more about he got rid of 726 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: a lot of the ugliness in his game. He didn't 727 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: necessarily add a lot of lethality. Now again, that last 728 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: punch he landed was pretty great, but I've watched the 729 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: majority of that fight. It wasn't a heavily offensive effort 730 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: from him. It was it was a lot of start stop, 731 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: start stop, and then he landed the big bomb there 732 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: at the end. 733 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, with you, I like how Danny Sigurisum did up 734 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: last night saying, you know, Jake all through five fights 735 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: has proven that he's a fighter. But Anderson can box, 736 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 2: and most of the guys making this transition we know 737 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: can't really box. Anderson can really box and he can 738 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: really finish you. So, Luke, it does set up this question. 739 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: I like Anderson in this fight, So what is the 740 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 2: major pitfall he has to avoid? Is it just avoid 741 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: the big right hand? I mean, what is the one 742 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: thing that could that could be that one spot in 743 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: the death Star that blows and. 744 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: Being too defensive and too slow to react. I do 745 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: think he's gonna feel out Jake a little bit, right, 746 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: But what he really likes to do is kind of 747 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: get cooking after a certain point, and he should not 748 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: wait too long to do that. He should not. He's 749 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna lay against the ropes. I think that you know, yes, 750 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: you could luer someone into a trap that way, but 751 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: you can also give up valuable time if you just 752 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: kind of fuck around there too long, Like has Anderson 753 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: Silva fucked around and fights before, Yes, sometimes it hasn't 754 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: cost him and sometimes it's always been a little bit weird. 755 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: So what I would say is, you know, he has 756 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: to keep it playful, and that's a big part of 757 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: his identity now in this post mma stretch of his career, 758 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: even before, but certainly even especially now. But I think 759 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: that what he really needs to do, and you heard 760 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: Danny talk about last night, was the last time that 761 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: Jake Paul fought a combination puncher. Never, He's never fought 762 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: a combination puncher. Number one. Number two is, Dude, Anderson 763 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: is very elusive. If he can maintain that reach, make 764 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: Jake miss, and then counter off the miss like slipping 765 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: a punch and going at the same time, or getting 766 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: out of the way of an upper cut off a 767 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: pivot with a check hook, or whatever he's doing, making Jake. 768 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: By the way, Jake has a problem of attacking from 769 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: long range and not bringing his feet with him. Yes, dude, 770 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: if you can get Jake to attack with a huge 771 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 1: step that'll take and come on in and then counter 772 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: him by being proactive enough through that middle portion of 773 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: that fight, I think he can send him to the 774 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: land of wind and ghosts. Absolute believe that combination punching, 775 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: elusive trunk movement, and getting Jake to commit errors through 776 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: positioning I think are very much on the table. 777 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: All right, let's show the cards on that table. Here 778 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: it is Luke Thomas. I like Anderson, and I like 779 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: him by knockout. I do still think there are ways 780 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: that certainly that Jay could win this fight. But I 781 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: think there's also ways that Jay can win. As Max 782 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: Killerman used to say, and I hate that term the 783 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 2: story of the fight, Luke, is there moral victory potential 784 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: here in a Jake Paul loss? I think there is. 785 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: He's gonna have to show the toughness, chin backbone, recuperative 786 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: ability on a level he hasn't had to yet, although 787 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: he did after getting rocked by Woodley, did bring it 788 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: all back together. Yes, he fought through a bad cut 789 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: in a second Woodley fight. Like like Danny said, Jake's 790 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: got a backpoint. You can fight right, you can fight 791 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: a little bit here. He's going to have to, but 792 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: I think that'll keep him minute for a while. But 793 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: I think the combination of the clean punching and more 794 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: the exhaustion that comes from being in a drag it 795 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: out fight, not an eight round boxing match where you 796 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: have to make quick decisions, which he's done, and you've 797 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: got to stay responsible and walk that line. He's done that, 798 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: he's done for the most part. He's done that. I 799 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 2: think Anderson's gonna pull him out of that and will 800 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: be the first opponent to do that. That makes it 801 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: a real fight. And I think the exhaustion's gonna catch 802 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: up with him, and I think that's what's gonna lead 803 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 2: to about a seventh round TKO where the ref is like, 804 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 2: all right, you've taken too much clean punishment. Let's stop 805 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 2: it right here. 806 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: What do you say, Well, let's let's preface something. We 807 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: started the conversation this way. If if it is true 808 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 1: that Anderson Silva has been knocked out twice in camp, 809 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: Jake Paul's gonna walk all over him. Let's just be 810 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: very clear about that. Your brain would be in no 811 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: condition to absorb damage, in no condition to be fighting 812 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: a boxing contest this weekend. And it could be as 813 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: much as the breeze of the punch missing that could 814 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: knock out Anderson. At that point. Well, I'm just saying, no, dud, dude, 815 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: You're sorry. If you've been ko twice in camp, it's 816 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna take very little to put you down, very little. 817 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: Your brain will have no resilience. 818 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: Anderson was like, no, your song was ding ding ding? 819 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: Did ding ding? 820 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: One? Was? You know? Yeah? It's not the same. It's 821 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: not the same. Sorry, David Bowie, but you get what 822 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. See, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, but anybody, 823 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: if you have been knocked out in camp, you are 824 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: not nothing. Nothing you can do will stop where your 825 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: opponent is gonna is gonna do in terms of punishment. 826 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: So let's assume that that's not in play. Let's assume 827 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: that he has not been knocked out. I like Anderson 828 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: Silva here to win, and I think the boxing world 829 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: is really wrong about this. I don't know what we're 830 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: gonna get from Jake. And I think everyone who kind 831 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: of says because they don't like Jake that they do 832 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get from him, you just you're 833 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: full of shit. Like none of us really, we really 834 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: have a good sense of things, which is part of 835 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: the intrigue of this fight. But the biggest difference, again 836 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: that BC asked thought that was an important question between 837 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: the first and second Woodleigh fight was was defensive cleaning 838 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: things up, which is true, but again he went back 839 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: to looking down in the first and second fight. The 840 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: common denominator was as the fight war on, his stance 841 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: got kind of loosened, his footwork got kind of loosened, 842 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: his positioning got kind of loosened. Everything kind of began 843 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: to fall apart a little bit. Woodley was never really 844 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: in a position to attack because he just wouldn't throw. 845 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: For shit. 846 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: Would you give an ending, though? What's your ending? 847 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: I don't think Anderson has any of these problems. I 848 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: do think there might be a durability problem by virtually 849 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: being forty seven years old. But I think I agree 850 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: with you BC. I think after round four, if it 851 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: goes that long, pay attention to what Anderson Silva is doing. 852 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: If he is making him miss, putting combinations together, putting 853 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: Jake's back up along the ropes, he is going to 854 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: walk away with this one. I like him to stop 855 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: Jake somewhere around the I'll say seventh round, TKO. 856 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 2: I just feel like, what a lot of fighters and 857 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 2: we see this at the elite level in the UFC. 858 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: You don't really know what five round stamina is in 859 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 2: UFC when you make that gap from three rounds to 860 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 2: main eventing until you have to be there. I always 861 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 2: bring up Steve A. Mio Chichen, the loss to JDS 862 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 2: in their first fight. He had to learn so it's 863 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: not like I think having the right amount of stamina 864 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: isn't just about did I work enough heart? Did I 865 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: work hard enough cardiovascularly? I think some of it is 866 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: mental too, like you have to go through it and 867 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: push past that, and I think sometimes you have to 868 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: learn that lesson harder. It's not always natural. 869 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: How we We've talked about a lot of Anderson's incredible performances, 870 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: and you were the one that I sort of highlighted 871 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: earlier this week. Go back and watch the first Jail 872 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: Sun and fight where he had a fucked up rib 873 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: and was getting pounded on for four and a half 874 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: minutes and then pulled a triangle out of no where. 875 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: Do you think Jake Paul is going to take him 876 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 1: to that part of the of the of the depths 877 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: of what combat sports can offer. No chance. The only 878 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: issue would be is he too slow at forty seven? 879 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: Are his reflexes not there at forty seven? Has he 880 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: been knocked out in camp? If those are, you know, 881 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: if those are really the limiting factors, then Jake should win. 882 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: But I just don't think there's actually enough of that. 883 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: I think it's going to come down to skills, and 884 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Anderson Silva for what we know, for what 885 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: we know seems far more skilled. 886 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 2: All right, before we run down this pay per view 887 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 2: main card of quick picks here, I just want to 888 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: ask you what is the best and worst scenario outcomes 889 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 2: for Jake Paul versus Anderson Silva for the business at large, 890 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 2: and that business, by the way, brings in boxing and 891 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: mma and social media. It's a different world, but in 892 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: this bubble, in this world, what are the best and 893 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 2: worst scenarios? 894 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: I think the very best scenario the very best scenario 895 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: because we're talking about what does that mean. That means 896 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: getting people to want to see you more and getting 897 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: the kind of opponent that makes sense for what you're 898 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: trying to do. So those are the two considerations I'm 899 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: putting onto play here. Credibility is sort of part of 900 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: all of that. I think having a bit of a 901 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: back and forth with Anderson where it's exciting, crowds on 902 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: their feet, right, they're engaged, showing strengths and some vulnerabilities. 903 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: Anderson's making it exciting, but people had a good time, 904 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: and then you finish authoritatively, that's your best case scenario 905 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: for Jake, because then you can't claim to be perfect, 906 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: but one you got the job done. You beat Anderson 907 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: Silva in that context. Also in that context, you delivered 908 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: for people who put money down on the pay per 909 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: view or paid for a ticket because they see they 910 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: got to see some finality about it all, and you 911 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: can reliably trust this, this person will give you good 912 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 1: action for future events. That is the best case scenario. 913 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: Worst case scenario is the exact opposite, where it's a 914 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: fight that he looks like he can't do anything, he 915 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: retreats into like a jake. 916 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 2: Winning a decision he doesn't deserve. I might actually be 917 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: the worst case scenario. 918 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: Right, No, because then they would do a rematch. Then 919 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 1: they would do a rematch. That's a bad scenario. I 920 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: don't think i'd say work. What's worst case? Worst case 921 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 1: is not only are you boring? You can't fight for shit? 922 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: That's the worst case. 923 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 2: First punch lands and the groin in the fight's end, 924 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 2: so no, But or he. 925 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: Just looks like he can't do anything. Right again, The 926 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: whole idea is people should wanting to see this. At 927 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: some point. You have to deliver more than just I'm 928 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: a guy trying a weird thing. Come watch me do it. 929 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: It actually has to be entertaining on its own merits. 930 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: Let's be honest about it. The second Woodleigh fight was 931 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: not entertaining. It was not entertaining. This one has to 932 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: be different to avoid what I'm talking about, which is 933 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: then getting stretched. Of course, a worst case scenario. 934 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 2: Comin event, we will see the eighteen year old Ashton Silv, 935 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 2: who's a legitimate boxer seven and zero a lightweight, take 936 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: on Bralio Rodriguez who's only lost to the unbeatens. He 937 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 2: to get stopped by Ryan Garcia. So that's one of 938 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 2: your real boxing options. To notice this isn't a real fight. 939 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: Silve's got to step up to a higher level here 940 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 2: at just seven and zero. But watch that. But Luke, 941 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: in terms of the crossover feel and certainly the how 942 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: do I bet this feel? What do we do here 943 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: with Le'Veon Bell versus ryahall Or. I may not love us, 944 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 2: but I have a lot of respect for him and 945 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: what he's gone through post retirement in the UFC, and 946 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 2: he was open with us at the open workout about 947 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 2: contemplating suicide and how hard it was to adjust. Well, 948 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: now he's you know, seems a little happier, but he's 949 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: also and salty as ship. This week he should run 950 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 2: over thirty year old former NFL running back Levy on Bell. 951 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: Right, right, you would think, I don't. I would be 952 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: it would be real bad if he didn't. Okay, right, 953 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: it would be real bad if he didn't. I can 954 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: understand him being patient. How many rounds does that fight? 955 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: Do we know? 956 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't have that? 957 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: How many rounds does that fight? The Hall and Bell? 958 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: It's four rounder? I mean it's not like you know, 959 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: that's not I mean, not a lot of time there 960 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: to get get some work done. I see, that's less 961 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: pressure there because the main event is eight rounds. There's 962 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: a there's a there actually is a back half to 963 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,479 Speaker 1: that fight. Yes, this one, there's no back half. 964 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 2: There's a sprint. 965 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,439 Speaker 1: It's just a sprint the whole way through. So Bell 966 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: could look bad, but like hold on and see that's 967 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: what I think will happen. Or here's what here's what 968 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: a decent possibility is. Yes, Hall does what he's supposed 969 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: to do, looks great the whole time, but Bell hangs 970 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: on and survives, as like, wow, this guy he hung 971 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: on in that impressive you know, against a guy who 972 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: was a much more credential combat athlete who was already 973 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: a striking based kind of guy. Impressive, and then Hall 974 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: gets what he needs, which is you know, the dub 975 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: the redemption potentially being as a candidate for future Jake 976 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: qualified in the note. 977 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: That happens with that. I feel like I'm fearful for Levon. 978 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: But he's got balls. I mean he did. He did 979 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: knock Adrian Peterson out whatever that means. We'll see Chris 980 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 2: Avila of the NDA officially the Nick Dias Academy. I 981 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 2: always forget the academy part. I go right to the 982 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 2: army part. 983 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: Right, Well, it's they use both interns. 984 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: I think. I hope you taking on doctor Mike Mikhale Varshowsky, 985 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 2: the thirty two year old New York City based New 986 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 2: Jersey working family physician who is uh. Look. He he 987 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: won a charity match in May that he says was 988 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: in front of like ten thousand people, and he said 989 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: it sold a lot of pay per view by so 990 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: he's very confident. He's like two and a half divisions 991 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 2: larger than Chris Avila, who has been who fought MMA 992 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 2: what at lightweight and has boxed at one sixty eight. 993 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 2: His last time out. And now this is a one 994 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty something, was it? Yes, so one hundred 995 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 2: eighty five pound bout. Doctor Mike is six ft three 996 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: in the south paw. This is this is like some 997 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 2: UFC one matchmaking. I'm kind of here for it, but 998 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 2: this could go weird. 999 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what to make of this one. 1000 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: I tend to think that, like, you know, Chris, I 1001 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 1: realized obviously the much more credentialed athlete of the two. 1002 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know, like the Doctor, like, could he 1003 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: sneak could he sneak one just by being like he's 1004 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: got a little bit of Flanders vibe? Oakley docally Yeah, 1005 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: but like you know, Flanders always had his lawn mode 1006 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: and his car was always washed, and the house was 1007 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: always beat well put together like Flanders. Yeah, well yeah, 1008 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: fuck Flanders. But I'm saying, like, couldn't could the Doctor 1009 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 1: steal one by virtue of just like trying a little 1010 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: harder with like a very specific kind of strategy and 1011 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: executing it on a very specific plan. Seems like you could. 1012 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: Raise this mic a little miniatch, all right, you know, 1013 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 2: I'll pull that lever, all right, Luke, I'll pull that 1014 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: lever in a second. But why don't we toss it 1015 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 2: to you with UFC Fight Night. It's at the Apex 1016 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: in Vegas, and we hit the storylines coming in their 1017 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 2: main event, Calvin Cator, a plus one hundred underdog at 1018 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 2: featherweight against minus one twenty Arnold Allen. Luke, we know 1019 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 2: the stakes are pretty high in this one. What are 1020 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 2: the extras? 1021 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: And o's telling you x's and o's tell me that 1022 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: Arnold Allen probably needs to showcase the fact or if 1023 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: he believes this, But I tend to think it's part 1024 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: of his game anyway. He really needs to lean on 1025 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: the well roundedness of his offense. Hey, Hercules, Wow, Hercules. 1026 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1027 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: What I mean to say is can Arnold Allen straight 1028 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: up win a striking contest with Calvin Cator. It's on 1029 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: the table. It's possible. I just find it unlikely over 1030 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 1: the course of time. Now, of course, there are the 1031 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 1: durability issues for a guy like Calvin Cator, who's had three, 1032 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: as we talked about, very tough fights in a row, 1033 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: very damaging, difficult fights in a row. So I don't 1034 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,919 Speaker 1: know how to say about that. We'll have to see 1035 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: what kind of response we get. But I think that 1036 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: Arnold Allen can win if he is meaningfully able to 1037 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: make some takedowns available to himself. Have top control, use 1038 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 1: ground and pound, slow things down in the clinch, strike 1039 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: a little bit at distance, but like perhaps in a 1040 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: way where he can stick and move right a little 1041 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: bit of like almost not quite Sterling versus Yon, because 1042 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: everyone there is a very different fighter, but something along 1043 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: those lines where you can stick and move at distance, 1044 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: and then you can meanfully have takedowns in the middle 1045 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: of the rounds or at least enough where you can 1046 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: get some value, some scoring value out of it. Be 1047 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: the more well rounded guy, use more tools, slow the 1048 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: fight down, mix it up. Whereas, by contrast, I think, 1049 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: if you're Calvin Cater, the jab has to get going, 1050 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: the down. Blocking has to be right on par. You 1051 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: cannot spend time being pressed against the fence, for example. 1052 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: You really have to make it a proactive in the 1053 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: middle of the bout kind of in the middle of 1054 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: the cage excuse me, striking contest. So when you're watching 1055 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: this fight, just really pay attention to where they're fighting 1056 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: and on whose terms are they fighting in the clinch 1057 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: because Arnold forced them there? How long is he able 1058 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: to keep it there? What kind of work can you 1059 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: do from there? But if you're just seeing that them 1060 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 1: constantly circle each other at behind the jab, that should 1061 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: be Cater's fight to win. It feels like. 1062 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 2: Cater has better experience. He's gone late into fights. I mean, 1063 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: he showed a tremendous heart against Max Holloway. I mean 1064 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: it's almost ridiculous. 1065 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: And Gigachikazi that was a brutal fight. 1066 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 2: Does Alan have I know Alan doesn't have the same 1067 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 2: level of experience, so is there any potential in him 1068 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 2: not being exposed? But look, when you go from three 1069 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 2: rounds to five rounds, sometimes you've got to water down 1070 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 2: your offense a bit to make sure you end up 1071 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 2: there down the stretch. And also like, so are you 1072 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 2: fearful at all for Allen? In terms of this adjustment? 1073 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: Could be I tend to think like he strikes me 1074 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: as a very well prepared athlete, So in that sense, 1075 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be caught off guard. But like, 1076 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: if he has a really tough first three rounds, then 1077 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: it could begin to like how do you manage those 1078 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: ladder two? Then it could be involved. But at the 1079 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: first that the pace of the first three rounds is 1080 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: relatively slow. Then I don't have those concerns necessarily, but 1081 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: I think arld Allen's also been relatively inactive. Right, he 1082 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: doesn't fight three times a year, he doesn't come in. 1083 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure. Partly has been having some injuries. 1084 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: I think partly he has been very careful about his matchmaking, 1085 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: you know. So it's been a combination of factors, which 1086 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: is why his partly, I would say, why his record 1087 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: is pristine for that reason. It's not like just by 1088 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: the fact that he's very good. Yes, he's very very good, 1089 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: but also, you know, the relative lack of experience and 1090 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: then the relative inactivity is part of that. So I 1091 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: think that's part of it. Two BC is like Cater 1092 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: has much better, much better experience against much better guys, 1093 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: but he got put through the fucking meat grinder to 1094 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: get there. Alan is much more preserved. However, doesn't have 1095 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: that experience against those kinds of opponents, in those kinds 1096 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: of spotlights. So the question is who's making the bigger 1097 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: trade off here. I guess we'll find out. 1098 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 2: I think that's a fair setup to that. You know, 1099 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,959 Speaker 2: did Calvin cador run Ze beat out of the sport. Look, 1100 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 2: I don't think he did. No, you know, it would 1101 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 2: be Zabat in this fight right now. Things had gone differently, 1102 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 2: it might have been. But as it pertains to the 1103 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 2: Luke Calvin cater at plus one hundred, they're giving him 1104 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,760 Speaker 2: that respect. He'll be in this fight. It'll be competitive. 1105 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 2: We'll probably get a Harry at times. Are we asking 1106 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 2: too much of him to find that other gear to 1107 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 2: come over the top of Alan? Who's coming on? Who 1108 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 2: is responsible, who's got all his boxes checked? 1109 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: Who's kind of stall here? He's not dealing with a 1110 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 1: guy who's bad, He's dealing with a guy who's good. 1111 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: But Arnold Allen is not an offensive dynamo. He has 1112 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: good offense, but again, everything he does is careful and selective. 1113 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 2: So you want to make him too safe, you want 1114 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 2: to What. 1115 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying is like, this is not the same as Chikazi, 1116 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: who is just a force of you know, he's just 1117 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 1: coming right after you. Arnold Allen is crafty and takes 1118 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: his time and that kind of a thing. So you 1119 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: really have to figure out, Like it's a very difficult challenge, 1120 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: but it's not the same kind of like Josh Emmett 1121 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: josh Emmett is all gas, no breaks. Yes, right, this 1122 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: is the opposite of that. This is a lot of 1123 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: breaks and just enough gas. You know, to listen. In 1124 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: the case of Dan Hooker, he ran him over, but 1125 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: in general he's very careful selective offense, you know. 1126 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I like this. Do you have a prediction 1127 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 2: tell people what to do with their money? 1128 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: It's a tough one, man. 1129 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I love to put money on plus one 1130 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 2: hundred Calvin Cater. 1131 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: But I think Cater's going to get it done. I 1132 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: worry about how much damage he's taken, and I know 1133 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: if you ask him, they all kind of are like, oh, 1134 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: it's no big thing, We're fine. And I just don't 1135 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 1: believe that, Like I don't believe fight or self assessments 1136 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: hardly at all anymore about like, you know, the impact 1137 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 1: that damages had on their career. They tend to, I think, 1138 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: ignore all of the seriousness of it, which is what 1139 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: happens when that's what your occupation is. But I worry 1140 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: about it, but I don't I think that Cater is 1141 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: going to be too skilled in distance management. Yeah, to 1142 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: let some of the parts of Arnold's very good game 1143 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: come to life, especially since he's already selective about it. 1144 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, man, if those three fights had 1145 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: a you know, those three fights had an effect, no 1146 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: matter what, Like you're not the same after those, no 1147 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: matter what. But I'm saying, is that pass the tipping point. 1148 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're there yet, but if we are, 1149 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: then all Nowlan's gonna fuck him up. 1150 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 2: You don't, necessarily, though, want to box five rounds with 1151 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 2: Calvin Cator, especially at distance. So does Allen shoot here? 1152 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, and tries to find the clinch. 1153 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 2: Shoot you know, at will? Or is this just strategically strategic? 1154 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: Strategic strategic? You know? And Calvincator can chain wrestle defend 1155 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 1: a little bit as well. But I think that's what 1156 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to. You're gonna have to make 1157 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: him chain wrestle, make his hands get to the mat. 1158 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get outside of his elbows. You're 1159 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 1: gonna have to be pulling down the head, forcing him away, 1160 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: and then making him work capturing wrists, holding him down. 1161 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: And so then when you're on the feed, you could 1162 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: kick at kicking range, get out of the way. He's 1163 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: still coming after you. Reclinch, reget the takedown, reforce his 1164 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,919 Speaker 1: hands to the match, get outside of his elbows again. 1165 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: If you can make that happen, I think you can win. 1166 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 1: But if if that part of the game is taken 1167 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: away from Allen, I I don't know. I don't know. 1168 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 2: I think I saw enough things against Stan Hooker from 1169 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 2: Arnold Allen that that I see it now. Look, I 1170 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 2: see it. This is his chance to fully prove it 1171 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 2: to us. But I do see it now. Okay, he's 1172 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 2: he's a safe one, but he is coming on in 1173 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 2: his own way. Okay, yeah, yeah, for sure. I love 1174 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 2: this match making great fight. 1175 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: The rest of the card is I don't know. 1176 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 2: If it's full bassura, as Luke would often say, but 1177 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 2: for a comin event, the dirty Bird tim means against 1178 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 2: Max Payne Griffin, who did appear in Doc six in 1179 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 2: the NK Chronology on the Red Carpet, Max Griffin minus 1180 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 2: one aby favorite over the plus one fifty five means 1181 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 2: does that surprise you? I mean it means is that 1182 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 2: guy he is that guy at the tough out who's 1183 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 2: going to be, you know, a two to one underdog 1184 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 2: more or less. But he, dude, he's fighting, He's he's technical, 1185 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,720 Speaker 2: is a technical brawler. 1186 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:51,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's fun. 1187 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 2: I think he could beat Max Griffin here. 1188 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing is Max Griffin has a real in 1189 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: your face style, you know, and I think he's gonna 1190 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: get after it and trying to put it on. Tim means, 1191 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 1: So Tim means we're gonna test the depths of Tim 1192 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: means his defense wrestling positionally, yep. Yeah, but Max gras 1193 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: Griffin's like more of a like a gung ho wrestler type. Yeah, 1194 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: and you know he could that's a that's a man think. 1195 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: Tim means you just don't have any easy assignments. They're 1196 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: just all fucking hammers one after the other. Yeah. So 1197 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: the real to me really can Tim means avoid the 1198 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: takedown and if he gets taken down with what extend 1199 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: caing he avoid damage and I think get back to 1200 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: his feet or get top position something like that, because 1201 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: if you see him wrestling or grappling from guard and 1202 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: any kind of response from the grappling where he's fighting 1203 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: on essentially Griffin's terms that that's probably a fight. 1204 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: Well he's not uncomfortable on his back though, no super 1205 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 2: Bowl rotted. 1206 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: But I just mean, like, if you eventually see him 1207 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: relenting to those positions. That's a bad sign. 1208 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 2: Uh. Chase Hooper opening up and we talked about him 1209 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 2: on Wednesday's Fun. Do you still feel like he's trending 1210 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 2: overall in the right direction here? He will be a 1211 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 2: minus two fifty five favorite over the plus two fifteen 1212 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 2: Steve Garcia. I mean there was a time that UFC 1213 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 2: was sending as a pr gift an mmm jar eminem 1214 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 2: eminem jar eminem m and m jar with his face 1215 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 2: on all of the candy Luke right, remember that? Did 1216 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 2: you get that from them? 1217 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't listening. 1218 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 2: Remember when UFC, like three fights ago, thought Chase Cooper 1219 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 2: was like this, Oh yeah, his face on them? 1220 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't get that. 1221 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 2: Oh I did, and I ate him and it was awesome. 1222 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 2: But then he like lost and we were like, oh, 1223 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 2: too much, too soon. But he's kind of like he 1224 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 2: makes he takes big chances. He's so submission gung ho 1225 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 2: that he ends up in some firefights on the feet 1226 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 2: trying to get there. Do you still have long term 1227 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 2: confidence in him as somebody who may be a threat 1228 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 2: once he puts it all together. 1229 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I was never one of these guys who 1230 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 1: necessarily had anointed that he listened. Chase super seems like 1231 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: a very smart guy. He seems like a very hard 1232 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: working guy, and also he does have some skills. I 1233 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: think one of the things that got to me was 1234 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: he's a bit of a late bloomer in terms of 1235 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,439 Speaker 1: his physical development. Like I know, he's obviously very young, 1236 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: but I don't think he's grown into his man strength yet. 1237 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 1: I would like to see in this fight BC a 1238 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: couple two things. I would like to see. One on 1239 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: the strength and conditioning side, as he packed on some muscle. 1240 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: I would like to see that. I think he could 1241 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: benefit from it. And the other part is what choices 1242 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: does he make about maintaining position on the ground so 1243 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 1: that he doesn't get into these scrambles where he's on top, 1244 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: he's on bottom, he's on top, he's on bottom, rolling 1245 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: for leg locks that may or may not work. Just 1246 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: making more decisive calls about control positions. I would like 1247 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,760 Speaker 1: to see him do that rather than just kind of playing. 1248 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he does play with his food a lot, and 1249 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 2: it almost gets him in trouble at times. Right, he 1250 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 2: mean's so lengthy and he seems to be about it 1251 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 2: like he's willing to take punishment, and. 1252 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 1: Yes, he's quite durable. Again, he's a tough guy. He's 1253 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: a tough tough guy. But you just this's what I 1254 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: mean with the seventeen year old kid. 1255 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 2: Everyone's like Rosace Junior. He will be fighting UFC two 1256 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 2: eighty two, which he might win. 1257 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: They might feed him a guy who who can he 1258 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 1: can beat. I have no doubt. But you just have 1259 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, I want to join the UFC 1260 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Be very careful about that, dude, 1261 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: you need to be. 1262 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 2: I can't wait to go to Hike school, Billy. Right, 1263 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 2: say again, I can't wait to go to Hike school. Billy. 1264 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 2: You're just not on point anymore. You just you lost it? 1265 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: Is this a Billy madisonen? Yeah, of course I do 1266 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: like Billy Madison Pieces of ship like you for breakfast. 1267 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 2: That's uh, that's Happy Gilmore. But well done, well done? 1268 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 1: Just wait so then, so then Hanny Gilmore is the 1269 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: terrible one. 1270 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: No happy Gilmore rules? 1271 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: Is that the one where he sees like the Penguiner's 1272 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 1: the failed rich kids? 1273 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 2: No, that's Billy Madison. 1274 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 1: That's Billy Madison. 1275 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 2: Did you not grow up in the nineties? And who 1276 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 2: are you? 1277 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 1: Right? Now. Adam Sandler's movies are some are good. 1278 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 2: Okay, some are great. I know Billy Madison hasn't aged well, 1279 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 2: but that, for its time is one of the funniest 1280 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 2: movies of all time. Happy Gilmore has aged Gilmore Football movie? 1281 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,240 Speaker 2: What's it called in the Swamp? 1282 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:51,839 Speaker 1: Water Boy? 1283 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 2: Water Boy has age? Seriously, water Boys still freaking hilarious. 1284 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 2: Water Boy's Okay, Little Nikki was a regrettful move. Mister 1285 00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 2: Deed's underrated. 1286 00:56:59,239 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: You haven't seen that one. 1287 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 2: I don't get into like I'm not you know, I 1288 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 2: mean like the Drew Barrymore one is obviously good, but 1289 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,800 Speaker 2: I hate when people are like, that's what it's not 1290 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,439 Speaker 2: Big Daddy loves Big Daddy. 1291 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's okay, that is okay. No, Punch Drunk 1292 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 1: Love is Adam Sam's best movie. 1293 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 2: See I like Click people sleep on Click. It's actually 1294 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 2: really good. 1295 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: Punch Drunk Love, or you could say uncut Gems. 1296 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 2: Gems is his best movie. Like that's like he should 1297 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 2: have want. 1298 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: Punchdrunk Love is better than Gems for him. 1299 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 2: That movie is so I have not seen it, right, Okay, Well, 1300 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 2: what about Raining over Me or whatever? 1301 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: The one? 1302 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,439 Speaker 2: Why it wasn't even like a post nine to eleven 1303 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 2: one with with Donald or with the guy's name from 1304 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 2: uh Boogie Knights, Mark Oh, the African American guy, the 1305 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 2: Haitian American guy. 1306 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 1: The Jamaican you mean the guy you know? The guy? 1307 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't. 1308 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 2: This is this is horrible, Luke. There's a lot of 1309 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 2: steaks in this heavyweight fight on Saturday. Okay, maybe some steaks. 1310 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 2: There's some beef in this fight. Andrea Lawski, the veteran, 1311 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 2: he's right in like a four or five fight win streak. 1312 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 2: He'll be a plus one ninety underdog according to DraftKings 1313 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 2: against Marcos Joseio Delima. But if Arlovsky is victorious again, 1314 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 2: he will tie Jim Miller for most wins in UFC history. Luke, 1315 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 2: I kind of like, I hate comparing things to wrestling 1316 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 2: because our fans hate it so much. Luke, but it's 1317 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 2: almost like a bullshit WWE twenty four to seven championship 1318 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 2: that means nothing. You can roll a guy up in 1319 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 2: the bathroom and pin him and win it. But I 1320 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 2: kind of like that the aging veterans are getting this 1321 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 2: like send off like cowboys in number one most wins. 1322 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 2: Oh now it's Jim Miller oh, now, it could be Arlovsky. 1323 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 2: There should be some like prize, a jacket or something 1324 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 2: that you can wear in real time. That's like, I'm 1325 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 2: the all time winning a spider, right, Isn't nothing? 1326 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 1: Oh I see what you mean? Yeah, except that you 1327 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: saw the jacket where you get tested. 1328 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 2: Right, because it kind of raises the stakes a little bit, right, 1329 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 2: You're you're going to tune in for that, like, oh shit, 1330 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 2: let's see for a Loski can do it again. Yeah. 1331 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how you would meanfully do it, 1332 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 1: but it do. This is you have to be impressed 1333 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 1: the guys like Miller and the guys like Arlovsky who 1334 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: have changed their game enough. Yes, I'll ask you the 1335 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: most among them to be able to stay relevant and 1336 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 1: beat good guys and you know, not necessarily all the 1337 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 1: most exciting fights, but competitive ones. He's a good test 1338 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 1: for any up and coming heavyweight. You gotta be very 1339 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: very impressed by him. 1340 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 2: Look, don chateell, don chale, don cheatle Cheatle was the 1341 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 2: guy I was talking about. Okay, he was in that 1342 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 2: Sandler movie, right, He. 1343 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 1: Was in a lot of movies at that time. What 1344 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:26,479 Speaker 1: was the name of the movie. 1345 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm looking it up right now. Okay, it's great of 1346 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 2: our team who are all sitting on their phones if 1347 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 2: they could just jump in at any point to rescue us. 1348 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 2: Just give us a hand here. 1349 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 1: I like watching you drown too. 1350 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 2: The movie in question was Rain Over Me in two thousands. 1351 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: Isn't that like the Marc Anthony and Pitbull song. 1352 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 2: It's a buddy drama film rain No, that's from the 1353 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 2: Who off a Quadrophenia. 1354 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: It's also a Marc Anthony and Pitbull song. 1355 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 2: Dolly, yeah, I'm sure it's all original too, baby, rain 1356 00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: over Me. Dude, you get so upset if I call 1357 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 2: any music that involves a Latin person, if I call 1358 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 2: it reggaeton, you get so mad at me. 1359 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: You could play mariotto, so you could play mariachi music. 1360 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't like this reggaetone. It's not reggaton. 1361 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: You could play salta. He's like, I don't like this reggaetone. 1362 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 1: It's not reggaton. You could play. 1363 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 2: Rock. 1364 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: You could play Spanish rock. I don't like this reggutar BC. 1365 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 2: It's not dide you play it though as racism. It's 1366 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 2: just playful ignorance. 1367 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they kind of bleed into each other that. 1368 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 2: Some days on the calendar they do January sixth would 1369 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 2: be one of those days. But you know this is 1370 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 2: not that well. Courtney has just giving me like the 1371 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 2: not happy she can fight. She got a backbone, bro 1372 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 2: she played hockey. She went three rounds with that. 1373 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 1: I know she was like this. 1374 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 2: I still want to know if we could do a 1375 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to turn morning combat into like barstools, 1376 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 2: rough and. 1377 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: Rowdy, but if we could, like we should do like 1378 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: the rough and rowdy version of slap fight, and we 1379 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: just undercut the power slap all like chicks that are 1380 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: no Malka staffers having to assault each other for we do. 1381 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 2: A tour of the country looking at all all the 1382 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 2: young diner waitresses. Do you want more out of your life? 1383 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: Do you want to fight on mkc's BC's uh diner 1384 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: waitress slap off? 1385 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do a reality show where they have 1386 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,439 Speaker 2: to live in a house with me. What you want 1387 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 2: is basically a harem ultimate fighter. You want a harem 1388 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 2: of barrel waitress. It is not incorrect. 1389 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 1: What was the last time you went to the cracker barrel? 1390 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 2: Serious question I did with my parents the morning after 1391 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 2: a wedding in Massachusetts. No, in Connecticut. I don't know 1392 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 2: a cracker bel they have them in Connecticut. Now, yeah, 1393 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 2: it was gross. It was gross. I mean, there are 1394 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 2: ways you can go to cracker barrel and really enjoy 1395 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 2: yourself and indulge in the grossness. But you know, post 1396 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 2: post n a f l D, Luke, there's not a 1397 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 2: lot there for me. 1398 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: Okay, post n a f l. 1399 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 2: D Non alcoholic fatty liver disease. Right, I'm a card 1400 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 2: carrying member. I don't want you to have any sympathy 1401 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 2: for me because it's self induced. It's like, I'm so sorry, 1402 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 2: sir about your alcoholism. You know. Yeah, I don't feel bad, 1403 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 2: you know, but no, it could be. It could I'm 1404 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 2: not and I'm not trying to downplay that. Like you know, 1405 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 2: there's there's a chemical addictions to things, Luke. People are 1406 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,959 Speaker 2: addicted to the show chemically probably, I mean the JP 1407 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 2: from Mount Nike. We love this guy, chemically addicted to 1408 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 2: the show. You know what I mean, because we gave 1409 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 2: him the first one fore, Luke, that's why less talkie talking. 1410 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's you right now. 1411 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 2: I need you to do that, Luke. Do you want 1412 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 2: to talk about the UFC card anymore? Can I rule 1413 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 2: like a deodorant stick? All right, let's go to topic 1414 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 2: number three report I don't know who the real sources are. 1415 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier, though, shared this with the ethosphere on his 1416 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 2: d C and r C ESPN show. Uh Peter jan 1417 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 2: considering leaving the USC UFC. Here's the quote from DC. 1418 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 2: Joan is so disappointed in this decision, meaning the O'Malley fight. Uh, 1419 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 2: he says against al Joe. Oh is he talking? He's 1420 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 2: talking about the al Joe rematch hair decision? Luke that 1421 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm here words that this guy may want to look 1422 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 2: at something different down the line in terms of his 1423 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 2: career because he just does not feel like maybe the 1424 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 2: organization doesn't have his back. It's crazy, Luke end quote. 1425 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 2: I want you to know. And he's referencing both the 1426 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 2: split decision lost to Aligroe, which he thought he won, 1427 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 2: and then coming right back against O'Malley and he thought 1428 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 2: he won. I'm surprised Company Van DC is sharing this 1429 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,919 Speaker 2: on the ESPN airwaves, right. I know DC is also 1430 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 2: like a connected fighter in the game too, but doesn't 1431 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 2: this seem a little weird this whole scenario, is it? True. 1432 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to believe. I don't know what 1433 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: the truth is, but. 1434 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 2: Like, why would it come from DC in this case? 1435 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 2: That's that's what's weird. 1436 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Just because he has connections in the industry, you just 1437 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 1: loosened it and then tighten it. Yeah, there you go. 1438 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Now give it the old college. 1439 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,919 Speaker 2: Try you think filthy Phil who said down his film 1440 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 2: could offer. 1441 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 1: It, or you're still making it loose righty tidy lefty Lucy. 1442 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 2: You know if you're upside down right, he can feel 1443 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 2: tidy Luke. 1444 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to make 1445 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: of this. I tend to think it doesn't matter in 1446 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: the end, like where is he gonna go that he's 1447 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: gonna get a better deal nowhere? 1448 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,439 Speaker 2: Probably, Like in the end, it doesn't really matter. Yeah, 1449 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 2: looking Park, one thing, I don't know what did you 1450 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 2: do long looking Park? No, but I I if that 1451 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 2: song comes on the radio, I am rolling down the 1452 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 2: windows and just slapping it right. No, I don't mean, 1453 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 2: I don't mean that way. I mean like like you know, 1454 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 2: like air base, like you know, you know, I don't 1455 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 2: mean I. 1456 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: Actually do believe he would the window and be like, 1457 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, hi, welcome to Arby's gonna take your order. Oh, 1458 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 1: yes you can. 1459 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's unacceptable. Could you believe Look, Gianni's had 1460 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 2: a bad stretch. 1461 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what does the UFC having to do with this? 1462 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: He accepted both of those fights. 1463 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 2: The just true. He didn't have anything to do with 1464 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 2: When there's controversies, people always lump the promoter in. It's like, oh, 1465 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 2: Bob Aaron paid that guy off. Al Hayman did that? 1466 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, who knows what the circumstances are about how 1467 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: this fight was made. Maybe he felt pressure to take it. 1468 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, But even then, the guy was ranked 1469 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: you know at the time. Again, everyone says eleven at 1470 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: the time they made the fight, it was thirteen. 1471 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody should tell you that they use the same 1472 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 2: judges and referees in. 1473 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: All It's like all the Yon fan boy. Yon's a 1474 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 1: great fighter, but his fans are very annoying, and they 1475 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 1: all assured everyone before the fight that it was going 1476 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 1: to be a mauling, and then after it they're like, well, 1477 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, this is how this is a travesty against humanity. 1478 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: How could this happens? Like, dude, you didn't take Sean 1479 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: O'Malley nearly a serious not not Yan himself, but the 1480 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 1: the annoying supporters that you didn't take this nearly as 1481 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: seriously as you were supposed to. 1482 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 2: And what's the commission in Abu Dhabi when they go 1483 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure because you know, like when when 1484 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 2: Belatar goes around the globe, they bring the movegan Son 1485 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 2: out of Connecticut, like Missouri, they so. 1486 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,720 Speaker 1: In if they have to self regulate, the UFC abides 1487 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 1: by Nevada's rules, and then I think they they self 1488 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: regulate there, or they have they bring in some kind 1489 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: of crew of efficiants from other commissions to do like 1490 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: a skeleton crew jobs, but they abide by Nevada's rules 1491 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 1: when they have to self regulate. Either way, whatever commission 1492 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 1: is there is not going to be some kind of 1493 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,919 Speaker 1: like terribly authoritative one. It wouldn't really matter. 1494 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 2: Despite the judge's decisions in recent fights and his own 1495 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 2: self induced losing the title by DQ, is Yon still 1496 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 2: among the ten best fighters in the world right now? 1497 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 1: In your eyes ten best fighters in the world. I 1498 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 1: don't know about that, okay, but he's probably on trotless 1499 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 1: for top twenty five or yeah, he's inside the top 1500 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 1: twenty five. 1501 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 2: Come in here, we go live. Let's see who is 1502 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 2: he is? He cute? 1503 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Knocking out? Have him? 1504 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 2: How's keeping? How's keeping? 1505 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 1: See? Can we can we not play with this anymore? 1506 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:26,960 Speaker 2: Okay? I'd like to get it. 1507 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 1: It just keeps dropping, he keeps dropping. I did last night. 1508 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: You're just gonna have to continuously readjust this, okay. 1509 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 2: Which I did without complaining. But you're making it a thing, 1510 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:33,920 Speaker 2: you know. 1511 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: Because you're distracting you. You're not aware of it, You're 1512 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 1: not like registering it. But I am. 1513 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Look, let's go to topic before. I didn't mean 1514 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 2: to upset you. Uh Look, Volkanovski. Alexander still wants the 1515 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 2: McGregor fight. He talked with our friends down Under on 1516 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 2: Submission Radio and here's the quote. There's maybe a little 1517 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 2: bit of history there and again right now, he knows 1518 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 2: that if I go and take that lightweight title, he 1519 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 2: knows he ain't fighting for the featherweight title. I go 1520 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 2: and take that lightweight title. He knows that there's an 1521 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 2: opportunity there, especially because I've touched on the fact that 1522 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 2: he was the featherweight champ. Blah blah blah blah blah. Luke, 1523 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 2: Alexander claims there's still a deeper meaning to that fight. 1524 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 2: I did see Connor on Instagram in the past twenty 1525 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 2: four hours. He's jack, dude. He had like some fake 1526 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 2: blood from filming roadhouse. He's freaking jacked right now, Luke. 1527 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I've said it myself. You want to 1528 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 2: make Maha, you have a star, You're probably gonna put 1529 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 2: him in there with Connor the first chance you get. 1530 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 2: Everyone's just always trying to jump in the Connor pool, 1531 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 2: especially now when he's wounded, you know, and he's not 1532 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 2: the same guy. So I'm not moved by these comments, 1533 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:32,920 Speaker 2: are you. 1534 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 1: Well, basically that Volkanovsky wants to have beaten every previous 1535 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 1: featherweight champ. Yes, beat Aldo, beat Max, beat McGregor, and 1536 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, move on from there. So I like that idea, 1537 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 1: but there's no way you could make it at one 1538 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 1: forty five. So you could do it at one fifty five, 1539 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 1: but then it doesn't mean the same thing. 1540 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 2: Alvarez was lightweight, Yeah, so that doesn't mean. 1541 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: The same thing. So it doesn't I don't I wouldn't 1542 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 1: be I don't hate the idea of the fight in 1543 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 1: a general sense, but like, oh, here's everything too about Volkanovski. 1544 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, he's like, I'm gonna do this. I'm 1545 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 1: gonna do this. I'm gonna defend this, like do first 1546 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,240 Speaker 1: of all, you gotta beat is long on market chev. 1547 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 1: Let's just start there, like, good luck with that. No, No, seriously, 1548 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 1: like for anyone talking down, I'm not talking down. I'm 1549 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 1: simply saying, if you're going up in wait to take 1550 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 1: on the next weight class champion, who, by the way, 1551 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 1: appears to be very very good will. While I do 1552 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 1: think Max is the best guy in the game as 1553 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,840 Speaker 1: it stands today, the reality is like, if you've got 1554 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 1: that kind of challenge in front of you, you have 1555 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: to be cognizant to not mention the other stuff right away. 1556 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 1: You've got way too much on your plate already to 1557 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 1: start playing those other kinds of games. Guys, it's fine, 1558 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 1: don't worry, but it's okay. Just you have to keep adjusting. 1559 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:43,839 Speaker 1: It's what I did yesterday. 1560 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm fine here here, I'm happy. Everything's good, okay, Luke. 1561 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 1: So I don't mind. I don't mind the idea of 1562 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,560 Speaker 1: this fight. It would hardly be a bad fight. But 1563 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 1: in terms of just a list of priorities, this seems 1564 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 1: very bottom of the list in terms of what he 1565 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 1: has in front of him to do. 1566 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 2: Agree, and people hate when we talk about Conrad greground 1567 01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 2: the show. They hate they do they do big time. 1568 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 2: They feel like we just reach over and suck the 1569 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 2: teat for views. 1570 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,679 Speaker 1: You know that's partly true. 1571 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Topic number five, Luke, how about Banil, 1572 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 2: der Yusha and Morning Combat's extra credit this week focused 1573 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 2: on Benil's big win over Mattea Scamrot last weekend. Also 1574 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 2: Luke Thomas making a claim that you know, hey, Benil 1575 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 2: might deserve a title shot. Well. Banila has named his 1576 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 2: own two potential opponents he'd like to face. While talking 1577 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 2: to what are the submission radio guys names Casper and 1578 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 2: Dennis Thank you, he says, is Dari Jush. If I 1579 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 2: have someone to fight come February, I'm kind of excited 1580 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 2: for it. I'd love to go to Australia and fight there. 1581 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 2: I would want to go out there. Blah blah blah. 1582 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,639 Speaker 2: Charles would be great, olivera meaning he would also say, Luke, 1583 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 2: Dustin Poorier, and Michael Chandler are on his list, and 1584 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 2: he would close by saying Raphael Fhaziv I like that 1585 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 2: fight too, Luke, I kind of like Charles wanting to 1586 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,639 Speaker 2: stay in the mix to'd be the biggest fight for Benny. 1587 01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 2: He escaped Abu Dabi despite some very I want to talk. 1588 01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 1: I want to talk about something. 1589 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question which I supported 1590 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 2: because he's on my team. 1591 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, serious question. Given the way that I don't mean 1592 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,679 Speaker 1: that Makachev beat him soundly. That's not exactly what I'm saying, 1593 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 1: although it's part of it. But this is my point. 1594 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 1: I think there is something to consider. I'm not talking 1595 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: about Marlon Morii's territory. I don't think that's right, but 1596 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 1: I do think you have to worry a little bit 1597 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: if you're Charles. His offense is dynamic, but the way 1598 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 1: in which Islam fought him shows that there are a 1599 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 1: couple of things you can do that totally nullifies his game. 1600 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 2: And good luck trying to be an average guy doing that. 1601 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Though average guy could not possibly do it, but a 1602 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 1: guy like Daryus who can wrestle, who is obviously Darius 1603 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 1: was a very decorated jiu jitsu practitioner, right, very high level, 1604 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 1: certainly experienced at this point, I think physically up to 1605 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,639 Speaker 1: the challenge. A lot of the other guys fought Charles 1606 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 1: before we realized what the best way to fight Charles is. 1607 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,759 Speaker 1: Makachev showed you you have to have the skills involved, 1608 01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,640 Speaker 1: but neutralizing and flattening the guard. The left cross the 1609 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 1: right straight excuse me, the left cross the right hook 1610 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,680 Speaker 1: or the right hook left straight were the only two 1611 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 1: punches he threw the entire fight right not perrying out 1612 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 1: of the way, the front kick and moving out of 1613 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 1: the way. This diffused all the parts of his game. 1614 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Dar Yusch can follow that blueprint, and I don't know 1615 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: if you can get similar levels of success. That's why 1616 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 1: they have to fight. But I do wonder against enough 1617 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,959 Speaker 1: elite guys who are well rounded, did Makachev lay a blueprint? 1618 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 2: That's interesting, That's interesting. I think, well, that's a good 1619 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 2: question to consider. You also have to consider what I 1620 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 2: talked about coming in that like he was at the 1621 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 2: peak of his powers, Oliver the very peak and just 1622 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 2: taking big chances and maxing out and exposing and finishing guys. 1623 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 2: But when that very peak is done, that's hard to recapture. 1624 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 2: It's hard for Hora Maswital at this age to ever 1625 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 2: find that spark again after he had it briefly, it 1626 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,680 Speaker 2: may be hard, Luke, he may go on a kind 1627 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 2: of there's a potential losing street because he's still going 1628 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,640 Speaker 2: to want to match himself as big as he can 1629 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 2: to get back in there. He still can beat anybody 1630 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,280 Speaker 2: on any given night. But we may say Oliver coach 1631 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,720 Speaker 2: a couple of big name losses here in a row, 1632 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 2: just because you can only do that so often. 1633 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 1: And also, like after you lose and like the way 1634 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: Yan did to Sterling, or you lose the title, like 1635 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 1: the one right after that also is a tricky fight. 1636 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:13,680 Speaker 1: It just always is that way. 1637 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:13,840 Speaker 2: You know. 1638 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,400 Speaker 1: You could say it's about Sean O'Malley and a bad 1639 01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: decision or whatever, but that's always a tricky fight. So 1640 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: I realized that he was not the champion heading into 1641 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 1: this one, but he kind of was in her mind. 1642 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 1: So if you think about it, this would be if 1643 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,120 Speaker 1: you in that way, this would be the first fight 1644 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 1: after losing your title. Yeah, Benidori, you should be a 1645 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 1: tough fight dude. Either way. Obviously it's a tough fight 1646 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:31,880 Speaker 1: for Benil as well. 1647 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 2: Like you know, a great tough fight after somebody got 1648 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 2: solved was when Chuckledell to fight Keith Jardine. 1649 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Keith Jardine sat him down. 1650 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a split decision win or something 1651 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:42,599 Speaker 2: that was good. 1652 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,320 Speaker 1: Fight, right, only three rounds but yeah. 1653 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I think I got of the bathroom, Luke. 1654 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,639 Speaker 1: You know, all right, let's do dead wrong then well 1655 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 1: yeah we oh we have the Draft Kings Read. 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This Saturday at DraftKings Sports book. 1690 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 1: New customers only bets five dollars on the Fighter this 1691 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 1: weekend and receive in additional two hundred and free bets 1692 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: if your wager wins Draftking Draftking. Excuse me has so 1693 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 1: many ways, so many to win? Yeah? 1694 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,599 Speaker 2: There were, Seriously, you can you know so many? 1695 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:53,040 Speaker 1: All right? 1696 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 2: Thank you for that fine read and Luke, we close 1697 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,600 Speaker 2: every Friday morning combat at gmail dot com. Your opportunity 1698 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 2: to take us to trial, put us on the stand, 1699 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,120 Speaker 2: force us to face that l It's ive worse than 1700 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 2: my diet has. It's called dead wrong man. You know, 1701 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 2: might have to blow up the comode downstairs. 1702 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you do. 1703 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 2: Bill Dalton says. In episode three six five, at twenty 1704 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 2: seven forty eight, The King of Reheated hot Dogs, BC says, 1705 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,080 Speaker 2: Volkanovsky is always giving up a heightened reach disadvantage in 1706 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 2: his own division, and now he's going up. This is 1707 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 2: dead wrong BC. At least on the reach side, Volkanowski 1708 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,680 Speaker 2: actually has a slight reach advantage over Islam. He has 1709 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,759 Speaker 2: also had the the reach advantage against every top contender 1710 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,479 Speaker 2: he's fought interesting at featherweight, with the exception of the 1711 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:50,400 Speaker 2: Korean Zombie. Sometimes short guys have long appendages, as was 1712 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 2: evidenced by Connor McGregor's shorts at the McGregor Mayweather weigh in. 1713 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 1: He had an erection during that. 1714 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,680 Speaker 2: Anyways, I always enjoy the content, despite the fact that 1715 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,759 Speaker 2: BC has a more tenuous grasp on the English language 1716 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,400 Speaker 2: than Borat. Keep up the great work, Luke you had 1717 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,719 Speaker 2: he is your slave. You had a Borady. Oh my god, 1718 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 2: can you while I readjust my microphone again, can you 1719 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:14,920 Speaker 2: tell that story? 1720 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,680 Speaker 1: You're doing this way too much, By the way, that's 1721 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:17,680 Speaker 1: what do you want me to do is just like 1722 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 1: have it. 1723 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like this soon, to do it. 1724 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,280 Speaker 1: More subtly and nimbly without like disrupting everything. 1725 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 2: Get quick. 1726 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,800 Speaker 1: I had a driver picked me up. Oh Jesus Christ. 1727 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,879 Speaker 1: I had a driver picked me up from the airport. 1728 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,720 Speaker 1: And he eventually told me he was from Bulgaria. And 1729 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 1: then we got to the car that we're in and 1730 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 1: uh he has like like a smooth jazz on and 1731 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 1: he was like, do you like music? And I was like, actually, no, 1732 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,519 Speaker 1: I don't. You don't like music the way he said it, 1733 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 1: I didn't. And then he goes, I like black man jazz, 1734 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, right, you don't have to specify that 1735 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 1: when you say jazz, I kind of got what you met, 1736 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, as opposed to the white guy jazz, 1737 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,839 Speaker 1: Like I like, and I know there are white jazz musicians. 1738 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 1: That's not what I mean. 1739 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 2: But like, you know, I like a table tennis. 1740 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 1: He was obsessed with black people because then later on 1741 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 1: he was talking about how much he hated people from Arizona. Yeah, 1742 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:18,800 Speaker 1: and he's like, they are stupid, and then he goes, 1743 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,639 Speaker 1: he goes the first time he goes. The first time 1744 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 1: I come Arisona, I felt like black Man nineteen fifties. 1745 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I think I don't think that's right. 1746 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that's right. I think you're going a 1747 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:34,840 Speaker 1: little harder. Yeah. 1748 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,479 Speaker 2: On the weekend, I like the go Capital City and 1749 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,760 Speaker 2: watch a woman make toilet, and I'm like, I. 1750 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 1: Bet it was tough. I don't think it was like 1751 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 1: a black man nineteen fifties. 1752 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,680 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, the good transition. Let's go to Kevin on 1753 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,680 Speaker 2: Dead Wrong, Luke, what the hell was up with that 1754 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:54,680 Speaker 2: pronunciation of Majaca Mexico at five? When you're gonna make 1755 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:54,960 Speaker 2: fun of me? 1756 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 1: Now, No, I'm trying to work it out. 1757 01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 2: So any chance you get to clown on BC. You 1758 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,760 Speaker 2: clown on him and you correct him and you translate 1759 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,560 Speaker 2: something from Spanish to English with lots of pride. So 1760 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,639 Speaker 2: you're gonna say juwaka or o jaka. 1761 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 1: I didn't say that. No, he said no, pronounce it 1762 01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:10,520 Speaker 1: with pronounce. 1763 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,479 Speaker 2: The ja like and ah oh hockey and apollo. 1764 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, handicature. 1765 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:23,680 Speaker 2: I left, all right. So they're saying that you said waka. 1766 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,719 Speaker 1: Or like waka waka, like waka flack. 1767 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 2: A flame so pic absolute. 1768 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 1: Well, he might be right, like I have a little 1769 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,479 Speaker 1: bit of trouble with that word, so that actually sounds right. 1770 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,599 Speaker 1: And I've also learned like when is he now? Who 1771 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 1: is it? Is it like a Miguel or is it 1772 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,840 Speaker 1: like a Steve Kevin, Okay, that's in. That's indeterminate. I 1773 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 1: don't know. But if it was a Ralph or a Jimmy, 1774 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm not listening. 1775 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,599 Speaker 2: But if rambling Ralph is my guy, he is your guy, 1776 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 2: So he might be right. 1777 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,600 Speaker 1: That I mispronounced it. I'm learning. Yes, my Spanish is 1778 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 1: not great. Yeah, you've never heard me once say it's great. 1779 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,080 Speaker 2: It's well, Kevin says, I get Luke that it's not 1780 01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,440 Speaker 2: your first language. But how is anyone outside of Hispanics 1781 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 2: paying close attention? So post to know what the hell 1782 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 2: you're talking about. Better work on your Spanish with Tuki 1783 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 2: or when you visit them bbl's over at Wahaka, they're 1784 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 2: gonna be calling you luketo their little pende pen pendejito pendehito? 1785 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 2: What does that mean, little bitch? Okay, that's all we 1786 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,680 Speaker 2: got for dead wrongs this week, but please send your 1787 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 2: fan sub drum fire lately. 1788 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:22,640 Speaker 1: Man. 1789 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:23,120 Speaker 2: They are just on. 1790 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,759 Speaker 1: They're fucking great that those are the only two dead wrongs. 1791 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:27,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we had a good week, right. 1792 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,760 Speaker 1: Have we? We have Luke? 1793 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 2: You know who else had a good week? 1794 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 1: Who? 1795 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,479 Speaker 2: Hashtag Holy hammer? 1796 01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:37,760 Speaker 1: Right? 1797 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 2: Uh? 1798 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting closer to the end of the month, 1799 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:42,639 Speaker 1: and you know what that means BC. 1800 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 1801 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 1: It's almost time to select the first ever Money Lion 1802 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 1: Hammer of the Month for those of you who may 1803 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 1: have missed it. A few weeks back, we decided that 1804 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 1: we were going to start spotlighting undercar fighters whrn't getting 1805 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 1: the recognition they deserve. Our new sponsor, Money Lion agreed, 1806 01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,599 Speaker 1: so we came up with the Hammer the Month, which 1807 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:04,719 Speaker 1: invites you guys, the viewers to nominate which undercard fighters 1808 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 1: simply blew your mind this month and deserve to be 1809 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,559 Speaker 1: rewarded for it. You only have three days left to vote, 1810 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,720 Speaker 1: so go to moneylon dot com slash Morning Combat to 1811 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:14,720 Speaker 1: learn more how to enter. 1812 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,639 Speaker 2: Does it have to be just undercart or is anybody 1813 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 2: below the main event? 1814 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 1: I think I have to double check, but I believe 1815 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:20,400 Speaker 1: it's anyone below the main event? 1816 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So anybody that you know you feel is coming on, 1817 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,840 Speaker 2: that may be knocking on that door, that may be 1818 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:25,840 Speaker 2: packing a. 1819 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 1: Hammer, knock knock, knocking on Heaven's door. 1820 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,479 Speaker 2: You know, you can be a hammer or you can 1821 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,880 Speaker 2: be a nail. Right, Yeah, you can be a hero 1822 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 2: for just one Wow. You know that David Bowie song 1823 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:41,880 Speaker 2: was covered immaculately by the Wallflowers for that No, we 1824 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 2: can be heroes. No one likes to talk about the 1825 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,000 Speaker 2: Wallflowers or the fact that I saw them three times 1826 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 2: in three states in the same week in nineteen ninety 1827 01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,639 Speaker 2: seven in the Fall? Does that actually eight not sober? 1828 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,759 Speaker 2: The Fall of ninety eight? Is that BC being totally nineties? 1829 01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,439 Speaker 2: Or is that lame as shit? That I saw the 1830 01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,639 Speaker 2: wallflower is three times in a week in three different states. 1831 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:03,920 Speaker 1: That's the lamest ship. 1832 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:05,840 Speaker 2: That the states were small and close together. 1833 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 1: Lameys ship, super lamess ship. 1834 01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 2: I mean they that that album brings. 1835 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,080 Speaker 1: The gin Blossoms open, you fucking fraud. 1836 01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Wafler's way cooler than the gym Blossoms. That album 1837 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 2: Bringing Down the Horse, their second one, the popular one dude, 1838 01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,639 Speaker 2: that had like three four, five, six good ass songs 1839 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:21,920 Speaker 2: on there. 1840 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have it to them. Since then they fell off. 1841 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,559 Speaker 2: Did you see Theovan had Scott's stap on from Creed 1842 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 2: like recently. Yeah, I didn't live in his podcast. 1843 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 1: Like this other King or some ship. 1844 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:38,680 Speaker 2: Kinger and the Winger or something like that. 1845 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,439 Speaker 1: No, his private, one, personal one. 1846 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,280 Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I don't really listen to. 1847 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,640 Speaker 1: Other people this past weekend or something something like that 1848 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 1: this past weekend. 1849 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 2: No, I got respect for you know, he's funny. I 1850 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 2: remember from road Rules, you know I'm in I'm into 1851 01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,240 Speaker 2: that ship rules. Yeah, that's how we first got to 1852 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,680 Speaker 2: note theovon. He was that weird guy in the Winnebago 1853 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 2: which season in the first two or three, like back 1854 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,280 Speaker 2: when they were still like living together on the road. 1855 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 2: I don't think that's true, THEO Von was one hundred 1856 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,920 Speaker 2: per was he really? 1857 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about this. I just thought he 1858 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:08,960 Speaker 1: was a comedian. 1859 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 2: Are you serious, Luke? You are really dropping the nineties 1860 01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 2: ball today? 1861 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,679 Speaker 1: Yeah? So I didn't watch my I didn't watch MTV 1862 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 1: like you did. 1863 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,280 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't have a lot going on for 1864 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:25,280 Speaker 2: most of my Life's all right, I'll take the two thousand. Well, 1865 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 2: he was on the subsequent you know, challenge shows and stuff. 1866 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,479 Speaker 2: Do you know his last name is von Kernatowski, Luke? 1867 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 1: That I did not. That's a weird name. 1868 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, not everybody can have two first 1869 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 2: names as a name. 1870 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 1: Luke. I had no idea. 1871 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 2: They told me to never trust a man. I had 1872 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:45,280 Speaker 2: a lot of that. There's a lot of idioms that 1873 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,880 Speaker 2: I lived by growing up. Right, don't hook with a hooker, 1874 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 2: Never trust a man with two first names. 1875 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, how'd you sleep last night? Great? 1876 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:57,599 Speaker 2: And alone? 1877 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,600 Speaker 1: That's a weird thing to interject into the conversation. 1878 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,040 Speaker 2: So, like, remember that joke Dennis Leary used to have. 1879 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,439 Speaker 2: Did he steel the mall from Bill Hicks? 1880 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:08,679 Speaker 1: Maybe? 1881 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,280 Speaker 2: But he said, like the real the real smokers know that, 1882 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, you smoke it down to the to the 1883 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,519 Speaker 2: what do you call that the filter, because that's where 1884 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,040 Speaker 2: the heroin is. The real MK fans know that if 1885 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,000 Speaker 2: you hang around long enough the end of the show, 1886 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:21,880 Speaker 2: you'll find goal, You'll find the heroin. 1887 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:22,120 Speaker 1: Right. 1888 01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:23,840 Speaker 2: We're in it right now, and this is it. 1889 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 1: It's great right because you're just making it all about you. 1890 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,519 Speaker 2: Isn't that how the shows usually end? 1891 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Here? 1892 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,680 Speaker 2: That's all conversations with you typically go, yeah, yeah, Luke, 1893 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:35,720 Speaker 2: what else do you want to say? It's been a 1894 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,559 Speaker 2: great week. Shout out to our great staff. 1895 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to who. I don't know 1896 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 1: who won the money line contest for the ticket. 1897 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were supposed to be right here making their picks. 1898 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:44,280 Speaker 1: Do you know? 1899 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 2: Our team was like, BC, you're really inviting, Like he's just. 1900 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:52,400 Speaker 1: BC loves okay, find the weirdest motherfucker on the subway. 1901 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,760 Speaker 1: The kind is like picking his boogers and smearing it 1902 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,000 Speaker 1: and talking to himself. BC's like, I'm gonna be that 1903 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,080 Speaker 1: guy's friend. That guy is my person. 1904 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,560 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just not as judgmental to all members of 1905 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:02,680 Speaker 2: the human rights You know, you. 1906 01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 1: Love losers, you love people who are in distress, who 1907 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:07,720 Speaker 1: have mental illness. 1908 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,040 Speaker 2: Does that explain how I found you? 1909 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 1: A little? Possibly? Certainly I couldn't. I couldn't exclude that 1910 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:13,839 Speaker 1: from the part of your discovery. 1911 01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,880 Speaker 2: I'd like to shout out a few people that mean 1912 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,920 Speaker 2: a lot to me. Luke Martin translator, Martinez Beader. That 1913 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,639 Speaker 2: guy's the best, right they. 1914 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: Were going to see him tonight. 1915 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,679 Speaker 2: I hope we do. I really hope we do. He's 1916 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,040 Speaker 2: he's one of the last. Like you know, Paula Cole 1917 01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 2: was like, you know, where have all the cowboys gone? 1918 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 2: There's one remaining gaucho in this country, Martin Beader. He's 1919 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,280 Speaker 2: got that spirit. He keeps it alive. Do would you 1920 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 2: look at me at all as an American gaucho? At 1921 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,479 Speaker 2: least in terms of my mentality, my intention? 1922 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,960 Speaker 1: You see, I will never look at you as an 1923 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 1: American gaucho is impossible. 1924 01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,280 Speaker 2: As like an urban cowboy? By the way, you know 1925 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 2: what I saw for. 1926 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,200 Speaker 1: The first time pornography. 1927 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,200 Speaker 2: What's that movie? 1928 01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Is it urban? 1929 01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,760 Speaker 2: What's the movie with? Yeah? 1930 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 1: Drugstore cowboy? 1931 01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:09,880 Speaker 2: The one? No, the what's that guy's name? Damn, damn 1932 01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 2: sweat nowhere? It's going nowhere? 1933 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 1: Dude? Who was in. 1934 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,600 Speaker 2: What's the movie? It's so weird Midnight Cowboy? Thank you 1935 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:26,200 Speaker 2: filthy philm Look Midnight Cowboy my entire my entire youth. 1936 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,160 Speaker 2: It was talked about like by people like my dad 1937 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:29,720 Speaker 2: and my uncles. Is like, you know, one of the 1938 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,160 Speaker 2: legendary movies, right, and it's arty and it's avant garde. Shit. 1939 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,559 Speaker 2: It's also so creepy that I had to stop watching 1940 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,439 Speaker 2: it on cable recently. Have you ever seen Midnight Cowboys? 1941 01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 1: Not in a long time? 1942 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,880 Speaker 2: Yo, it's weirdish. Why is Anderson so far on our 1943 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,719 Speaker 2: screenwrin Now? What is going on right now? We're about 1944 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,439 Speaker 2: to get canceled over Midnight Watch Midnight Cowboy and get 1945 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 2: back to me. 1946 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:47,559 Speaker 1: Okay, I will. 1947 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:52,719 Speaker 2: It's it's it's as weird as like, what's this clockwork? Orange? 1948 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:52,840 Speaker 1: You know? 1949 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,880 Speaker 2: Whe's like Stanley Crup It assaults you. It assaults you 1950 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,320 Speaker 2: in that same way kind of like do you know 1951 01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,080 Speaker 2: what movie I walked out of the theater on you? 1952 01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 2: You might look down on me? Natural Born Killers? Oh 1953 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 2: I love that movie. I did not love that movie. 1954 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:05,360 Speaker 2: That movie was a little too dark for me. 1955 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,040 Speaker 1: Okay, it was very dark, but that was great. 1956 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 2: I mean it was it was a satire within the darkness. 1957 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,920 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I mean it was an artistic film 1958 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,400 Speaker 1: in the way where it's sending a broader message. 1959 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,040 Speaker 2: Midnight Phil, have you seen mid Night with Filthy Phil? 1960 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 2: Would you mind joining our our show? Will you stop? 1961 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 1: All right? 1962 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:21,519 Speaker 2: Sorry, dude. 1963 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,920 Speaker 1: Not everyone has an insatiable thirst with the camera to 1964 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:24,599 Speaker 1: be on them. 1965 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 2: Just trying to make that not all of us are 1966 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:27,840 Speaker 2: trying to make good. 1967 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:29,760 Speaker 1: All of us have holes in our heart that need 1968 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 1: to be filled by camera time. 1969 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,760 Speaker 2: Trying to make good content with the people in my life. 1970 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,519 Speaker 2: All right, Filthy Phil? Have you seen this ship? I 1971 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,160 Speaker 2: feel liked it? Remember, you know, Phil, you got labeled. 1972 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,840 Speaker 1: But it was okay, You're like Phil love that ship. 1973 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,600 Speaker 2: You got labeled by the MK audience as being a 1974 01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:48,360 Speaker 2: a you know, a milf hunter, a cougar, a cougar enthusiast. 1975 01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 2: Is that true? Was that ever true? Okay? 1976 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:52,559 Speaker 1: A milf hunter? 1977 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1978 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:53,599 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1979 01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,439 Speaker 2: Would you like to see if we had like a 1980 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,720 Speaker 2: game where the Philip lost, you had to show your 1981 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,439 Speaker 2: his search history to just you and then we had 1982 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,640 Speaker 2: like read your facial reaction based on how gross it was. 1983 01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:03,760 Speaker 2: Would you be interested in something like that? 1984 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:04,719 Speaker 1: Would be very interesting? 1985 01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,800 Speaker 2: You know, I have so many good MK game show 1986 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:08,960 Speaker 2: ideas that nobody wants to. 1987 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to look at the search history. 1988 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, or if you lose, that's what you have to do. 1989 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 1: You still haven't seen two girls, one cup. 1990 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 2: Dude, that is so distect I don't even want to 1991 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,920 Speaker 2: talk about I don't eve want to be associated with that. Okay, 1992 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,599 Speaker 2: you tried to set me up. You tried to set 1993 01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:21,000 Speaker 2: me up. 1994 01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,880 Speaker 1: You always want to make me do clap like a 1995 01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 1: circus seal for you, yes on my hold, and then 1996 01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 1: you never want to ever return the favor. 1997 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:29,639 Speaker 2: I was willing to get a tattoo. 1998 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you didn't have to. Like, you've actually never 1999 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,479 Speaker 1: gone through with anything I offered. 2000 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:35,559 Speaker 2: This sounds like my wife. She's like, you didn't make 2001 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 2: breakfast I offered. You said no. 2002 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,040 Speaker 1: I didn't say no. You can make me breakfast right now, 2003 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 1: I eat it. I'm simply saying, dude, you get out 2004 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 1: of a lot of shit that I don't. I don't 2005 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,000 Speaker 1: get out of, and I don't think that's fair. 2006 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,120 Speaker 2: So you feel like you're the guinea pig who has 2007 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:51,519 Speaker 2: to like. 2008 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,400 Speaker 1: I feel, if you want me to spin the wheel, 2009 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,320 Speaker 1: you should at least have to spin the wheel once 2010 01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,360 Speaker 1: in a while. Once in a while. 2011 01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm willing to go outnder the knife for the show. 2012 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,040 Speaker 2: I was willing to go to couples therapy with you 2013 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:02,040 Speaker 2: with the dock cams there. 2014 01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:07,519 Speaker 1: That's not a couple therapy. That's you doing content. I 2015 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 1: think that's so we can We're doing a couple of 2016 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 1: therapy with Phil right now. Anyway. 2017 01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, to be fair, this may be the beginning of 2018 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,920 Speaker 2: the end, because you know that for the storyline, no, no, 2019 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,519 Speaker 2: for you know, like there's an expiration day on my 2020 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,320 Speaker 2: comedy and you know, according to our some of our hardcore, 2021 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,040 Speaker 2: it's coming. They is coming, you know, I mean, spoiled 2022 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,439 Speaker 2: milk is upon us. Seriously, you don't realize when you're flowing. 2023 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,880 Speaker 1: You're flowing, but you try too hard and you try 2024 01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:32,280 Speaker 1: to so am. 2025 01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,479 Speaker 2: I like like Stephan Bonner with a really thick tan 2026 01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,200 Speaker 2: on roids when he tried to do that Spinna shit again. 2027 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're looking that. You're like Danerson Silva 2028 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,920 Speaker 1: stuff and Bonner or vice versa. You know, you're just 2029 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,639 Speaker 1: a little too trying to shoehorn it into every conversation 2030 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,840 Speaker 1: rather than like we had this guy came up obviously 2031 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,160 Speaker 1: wanted to have sex with us, I don't know who 2032 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:53,000 Speaker 1: he was. It's just some weird guy who started conversing 2033 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,680 Speaker 1: with me and BC, probably for sexual intercourse. I don't know. 2034 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,120 Speaker 2: I think you could have just been friendly. 2035 01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean, but he was making a weird conversation with him, 2036 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 1: and BC was just hitting him with one liners that 2037 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,760 Speaker 1: he didn't catch on to, one after the other. I 2038 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,600 Speaker 1: was sitting there fucking dying, dude. That was great, that 2039 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,479 Speaker 1: was funny, But you were just you were just in 2040 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,840 Speaker 1: a rhythm when you're not in a rhythm, dude. Oh 2041 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,200 Speaker 1: my god, it's nit's nails on a chalkboard, you. 2042 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:19,680 Speaker 2: Know, kind of like MVP right when he's flowing and 2043 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 2: he's hitting. 2044 01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,280 Speaker 1: I meant most Valuable Promotions. 2045 01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, No, they're always on. They're always on it, 2046 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:27,559 Speaker 2: like Grogan here, they're on fire. 2047 01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,600 Speaker 1: Luke, have you ever used on it? 2048 01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,559 Speaker 2: I'd love to. I use the ship that skeptical. 2049 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:34,120 Speaker 1: Those things work the way they say that they do. 2050 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I use ag one. I've bet on DraftKings. 2051 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:42,040 Speaker 2: You use this stuff on it. 2052 01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,760 Speaker 1: I've never used on it. No, I would try it. 2053 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,040 Speaker 2: There's a few there's a little bit of time left 2054 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,880 Speaker 2: on this trip. What strategy have I not used to 2055 01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:51,760 Speaker 2: try to convince our legal team to allow us to 2056 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:52,919 Speaker 2: have more Delta Aid sponsors. 2057 01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm not just just doing it randomly on air, you know. 2058 01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,040 Speaker 1: You know what. Also, they told me, it's like, dude, 2059 01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,599 Speaker 1: why don't we just take this? We should just talk 2060 01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,720 Speaker 1: about it. Why don't we just take the sponsorship and 2061 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,160 Speaker 1: do like a Luke and Bryan thing that we don't 2062 01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 1: actually ever say, mk, but we just they make social 2063 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,720 Speaker 1: assets where it's just Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell and 2064 01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,000 Speaker 1: that way we don't need their permission. 2065 01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:15,479 Speaker 2: I hope they pay us some product. 2066 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you. The vape Guy hit me up. 2067 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,320 Speaker 1: The vape Guy is a vape guy who's like a 2068 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,200 Speaker 1: vape retailer. He's like, Dude, I love the show. I'd 2069 01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,519 Speaker 1: love to pay you in vapes. I'm like, I'm like, 2070 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,439 Speaker 1: what kind of a fucking trashy whore do you think 2071 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:28,720 Speaker 1: I am? 2072 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,120 Speaker 2: He's playing to your, to your to your the greatest, 2073 01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,320 Speaker 2: the greatest thing that you missed because you're not very 2074 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,960 Speaker 2: self aware. Let's be fair, you're very non self aware. 2075 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,080 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, I don't. I don't give in 2076 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,560 Speaker 1: to the critiques. Doesn't mean I'm not aware of it. 2077 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:44,160 Speaker 2: It plays to the comedy of the show. So I 2078 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,559 Speaker 2: like that aspect about you. But you know you should. 2079 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,080 Speaker 2: You gotta lean into this vape thing. Somebody a company 2080 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,600 Speaker 2: offers to pay you in vapes, be like I made it, Like, 2081 01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:52,840 Speaker 2: you gotta go hard into that. 2082 01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,360 Speaker 1: You've got to pay me in cash, No, bro, pay 2083 01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,519 Speaker 1: you in product? Really you do that? 2084 01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,200 Speaker 2: I would do that. You ever see that three eleven? 2085 01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,679 Speaker 1: I gonna tell CBS to start paying you in circus peanuts. 2086 01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:08,560 Speaker 2: So three eleven was getting paid in in hydroponic for 2087 01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 2: like years. 2088 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe that. 2089 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,320 Speaker 2: Watch the DVD. Watch that came I'm not going to 2090 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:15,920 Speaker 2: ninety six it came out, So. 2091 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm not watching a three eleven DVD from nineteen ninety six. 2092 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,320 Speaker 2: Let me ensure you can we close the show, yode 2093 01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,519 Speaker 2: what like, how do you think they found out that 2094 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,400 Speaker 2: amber was the color of her energy? You know what 2095 01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean? 2096 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I believe that they did hydroponic weed. 2097 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,280 Speaker 2: I do believe that, Like, is she a roady? Is 2098 01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:35,880 Speaker 2: this like a love song to a roady? 2099 01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I mostly don't care to be 2100 01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:39,320 Speaker 1: quite candid with you. 2101 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Luke, I've stretched this comedy as far as 2102 01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:45,439 Speaker 2: I can take it, You're gonna have to find a 2103 01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,080 Speaker 2: new bitch to run around with the right you know 2104 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,320 Speaker 2: what I mean by the way, to be in full fairness, 2105 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,559 Speaker 2: if anything I said this week does lead to my exit, 2106 01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:57,559 Speaker 2: you and Ariel would destroy any numbers that we've built. 2107 01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:58,400 Speaker 1: You Why do you think that? 2108 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 2: Because you guys have our arguably the two biggest you know, 2109 01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:07,959 Speaker 2: voices or brands in this space, and there's the redemption 2110 01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,519 Speaker 2: angle of seeing you guys back together. So I think that, like, 2111 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,559 Speaker 2: you know, that would really I'd be a long forgotten 2112 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,559 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I'm secure. 2113 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:16,360 Speaker 1: I want what I got. 2114 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,639 Speaker 2: I'm secure with that, you know, I want what I got. 2115 01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,280 Speaker 2: Your Ariel jumping in our show is like Yo, it's now, 2116 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,240 Speaker 2: it's time for chains. Let's do it. I was like, yo, dude, 2117 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:25,839 Speaker 2: just put. 2118 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,880 Speaker 1: On the brain. I mean, just right away, just right away. 2119 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,120 Speaker 2: This is a this is a professional showtime like operation here. 2120 01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,640 Speaker 1: This isn't the it wasn't the MK show. Maybe he 2121 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:34,240 Speaker 1: thought it was MK. 2122 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:35,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, that could be it. 2123 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:36,120 Speaker 1: That could be it. 2124 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,320 Speaker 2: We were just doing the Heelwani era, so anything goes. 2125 01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's out there. 2126 01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,400 Speaker 2: This is low Road hell Wani. Yeah, I kind of 2127 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 2: like low Road. He'll want me to be honest, you know, 2128 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,479 Speaker 2: compared to the the other guy. Yeah, it's pretty cool. 2129 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:49,639 Speaker 1: I want to hold hands on the show. 2130 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,439 Speaker 2: I don't know that's but this is us in real life. 2131 01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,760 Speaker 2: You were always trying to touch me and I only 2132 01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,880 Speaker 2: like to be touched emotionally. Luke, Okay, you know what 2133 01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:01,799 Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah, all right, for our fantastic style, hold. 2134 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:03,240 Speaker 1: On, hold on, we have let's stop for a second. 2135 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:06,040 Speaker 1: We have berated this crew a million times. Yes, largely 2136 01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,400 Speaker 1: because you know, I love them. 2137 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish. I don't understand where they don't want 2138 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,080 Speaker 2: to be on the show, more like, why wouldn't they? Not? 2139 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,600 Speaker 1: Everyone hasn't due Not everyone has a crippling insecurity in 2140 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,839 Speaker 1: their life that can only be filled by getting filmed 2141 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,120 Speaker 1: for an audience. Like not everyone is that. 2142 01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:22,639 Speaker 2: One, but there are artists out there. 2143 01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,920 Speaker 1: All right, thank you to the crew for all of 2144 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,800 Speaker 1: the By the way, they don't just do this show. 2145 01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:29,840 Speaker 1: They do this show and then they go and do 2146 01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,000 Speaker 1: the weigh ins, and they go and do the press, 2147 01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:34,920 Speaker 1: and then they go and do the workouts. So they 2148 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:36,920 Speaker 1: are doing a million different. 2149 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,519 Speaker 2: Things and you guys slept it. Oh he didn't sleep 2150 01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 2: last night. He worked overnight working on the good Lord. 2151 01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're up all late and uh and they 2152 01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,640 Speaker 1: have to do with our bullshit too, so thank you. 2153 01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,080 Speaker 2: Usually the people in this area that are up all 2154 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,519 Speaker 2: night look like they were cleaning the chimneys on. 2155 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,920 Speaker 1: Them the home. They've been bleached by the sun, only 2156 01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,800 Speaker 1: they turned the color of the sidewalk while they're close whatever. 2157 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:02,680 Speaker 2: Rather than a going out them, you can help them? 2158 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,800 Speaker 1: Who says I didn't help them? But like the they do. 2159 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,240 Speaker 1: It's a week. So every every I've noticed, every part 2160 01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,280 Speaker 1: of the country has like the homeless look a certain way. 2161 01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:11,599 Speaker 1: They're young. 2162 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,280 Speaker 2: In La, they were crazy, it said, yep, it is. 2163 01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:15,800 Speaker 2: Well we'll end on that note. 2164 01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:18,559 Speaker 1: That's how you had a good week here in Phoenix. 2165 01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:19,720 Speaker 2: I've had a really fun week. 2166 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,600 Speaker 1: Now. It's driving sucks, if I can be honest with you. 2167 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,760 Speaker 2: The driving sucks. We're like forty minutes away from the 2168 01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:25,479 Speaker 2: dammar dude. 2169 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,439 Speaker 1: Everything in Phoenix is forty minutes away from that is 2170 01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:28,120 Speaker 1: true everything else. 2171 01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,040 Speaker 2: When when Shawn al Shotty told us it's a little 2172 01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:31,960 Speaker 2: bit too spread out to be super awesome. 2173 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:33,720 Speaker 1: He was right, Like when you walk the streets at night, 2174 01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,759 Speaker 1: even like a relatively nice neighborhood, there's no one walking 2175 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,280 Speaker 1: the streets. Everyone gets in their cars to go everywhere. 2176 01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,680 Speaker 1: So like life and well, most of. 2177 01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,760 Speaker 2: Us still live a major metropolitan area like. 2178 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,519 Speaker 1: Okay, But dude, small towns aren't necessarily built this way either. 2179 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,000 Speaker 1: It's not the scale per se in terms of population, 2180 01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,160 Speaker 1: it's just how they want to urban plan and develop it. 2181 01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,360 Speaker 1: And they just decided that no one is ever going 2182 01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,639 Speaker 1: to live close to one another here and everything will 2183 01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:58,720 Speaker 1: be spread out, so you have to have a car 2184 01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,400 Speaker 1: to do anything. It's it's a cool time. I will 2185 01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:04,960 Speaker 1: say this. People in Arizona are really friendly, really friendly. 2186 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,040 Speaker 1: They've been friendly to me, they've been friendly to you. Yeah, 2187 01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,599 Speaker 1: I found everyone's very friendly. Customer service is very good 2188 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 1: here in Phoenix. 2189 01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,439 Speaker 2: Yah, shout out to court what was her name? 2190 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 1: You get? 2191 01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,120 Speaker 2: Who was working at the Starbucks at what was that supermarket? 2192 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,040 Speaker 2: Safe Way, Safeway? Glenn and Glendale. Your shout out to 2193 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,600 Speaker 2: hugat So her dad's name is Hugo, So she's like 2194 01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,800 Speaker 2: little Hugo you get you know? Or my wife would 2195 01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:29,840 Speaker 2: say Ugo, yes, yes, yes, follow follow. 2196 01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,960 Speaker 1: Buddy of mine named his kid Hugo and my mom 2197 01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,040 Speaker 1: was like, my mom, Jesus, that's a weird little slip there. 2198 01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,439 Speaker 1: My wife was reading the names and she was like, oh, 2199 01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:41,400 Speaker 1: so and so that's a cool name. 2200 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:45,800 Speaker 2: She's like, ah Oogley, I want to shout out once more, Sean. 2201 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:47,920 Speaker 2: I was shouting and Danny so her so girl for 2202 01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,479 Speaker 2: sitting with us, taking our people think Danny and I 2203 01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:51,800 Speaker 2: are like natural born rivals. 2204 01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,240 Speaker 1: He was. We went and got dinner yesterday. 2205 01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He was awesome last night. He was 2206 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,960 Speaker 2: absolutely hilarious. Enjoyed that. Thank you to our crew, filthy 2207 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,120 Speaker 2: film in each I mean, gaff this new guy Druse 2208 01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:04,880 Speaker 2: trying to hang around us a lot. I mean, you know, 2209 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,960 Speaker 2: it's real big fans of these guys for Luke Thomas. 2210 01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,120 Speaker 2: You can follow us and like us there. I'm Brian Campbell. 2211 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:10,760 Speaker 2: It's been great. 2212 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:12,800 Speaker 1: Paul scattering report it's too long. 2213 01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:17,240 Speaker 2: Dissected Later today, Folks is at five pm five pm 2214 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:20,600 Speaker 2: here low Pacific time, five pm Pacific time. It is 2215 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,960 Speaker 2: the ceremonial weigh in on the Showtime Sports YouTube channel 2216 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,639 Speaker 2: on Joe Joe Paul's channels Jake Paul two. Check that out. 2217 01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:30,880 Speaker 2: Order the pay per view right now, Showtime dot Com, 2218 01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:33,960 Speaker 2: Slash PPV. It's nine pm in the East, a five 2219 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,880 Speaker 2: fight pay per view main card Saturday night, and you 2220 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:42,280 Speaker 2: will catch us at Court at eight pm Eastern. Eight 2221 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:46,479 Speaker 2: pm Eastern is the Countdown show prelims. It's me, it's LT. 2222 01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:50,240 Speaker 2: There's some special guests, all right. There's a lot of 2223 01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:56,799 Speaker 2: debate going on. See, I told you it was seven tomorrow. 2224 01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 2: Saturday is seven pm. All right, nobody's watching anymore. Away, guys, 2225 01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,120 Speaker 2: We're done. I mean, just you know,