Speaker 1: Yeah, what's something y'all was going on BROD Radio.
Speaker 2: He's a legendary Queen's rapper. Hey Hanks is your boy in.
Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up is dj
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, the most professional unprofessional podcast.
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Speaker 5: Before we even continue, I want to say that right
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Speaker 5: dripped to death with eight to nine from the head
Speaker 5: to the bottom of my feet.
Speaker 2: And right now this is your boy in r Hang
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Speaker 5: And right now, right now, we have a legendary Brooklyn MC.
Speaker 5: He was a part of a legendary group that we
Speaker 5: only got one albums.
Speaker 2: We was disappointed. We're gonna get into that.
Speaker 5: He's hip hop's first activist, that gangsters in hip hop
Speaker 5: claim and the backpackers in hip hop claim. He stepped
Speaker 5: up for us in Ferguson wh nobody else was. He
Speaker 5: told that guy that was in CNN, we're gonna get
Speaker 5: to that later, that you're reporting on black culture in
Speaker 5: a disrespectful way.
Speaker 2: And he told it to him intelligently.
Speaker 5: And live and live to this day, people still don't
Speaker 5: respect this guy's Don Lemon's.
Speaker 2: News reporting skills.
Speaker 5: Since that day, it's been different from mister. I had
Speaker 5: this guy number. The first thing I wanted to do
Speaker 5: was tex him and say thank you. But he's a
Speaker 5: hip hop activist. He's one of the realist people. He's
Speaker 5: a hip hop pure.
Speaker 2: Lyricist, pure lyricists.
Speaker 5: He's worked with the likes of Kanye West, jay Z, Freeway,
Speaker 5: you name him. He's been in the studio and had
Speaker 5: something to do with them being great.
Speaker 2: Right now, we have Tyler Qualley in a building. Make
Speaker 2: so fucking man, Man the legend. Man the legend. You're
Speaker 2: gonna make a black man blush nah man.
Speaker 5: Listen, By the way, let me just say something. I've
Speaker 5: seen you in LA and I got a chance to
Speaker 5: tell you how much I appreciated the statements, the acts,
Speaker 5: and the courageousness that you portrayed during the Ferguson and
Speaker 5: you going out there first off, just representing for us.
Speaker 5: And then second off, when people were reporting four stories,
Speaker 5: you immediately corrected this guy, and he did it in
Speaker 5: an intelligent way.
Speaker 2: You could have been like, fuck you, nigga, you sell out, motherfucker.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That's how I feel about
Speaker 5: Don Lemon. But you didn't. You did it in respectful
Speaker 5: How did that trans We.
Speaker 2: Get the full story?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we don't need the political, politically correct answer.
Speaker 2: Nobody listens to this show. Followers, Yeah, let's go ahead,
Speaker 2: tell us. But first of all, before I get into that,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: First of all, shout out to the family of Michael
Speaker 4: Brown and Michael Bougher's mom and Michael Brown Senior, And
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like because you know, one
Speaker 4: of the things that was lost in the conversation with
Speaker 4: me and Don Lemon was the fact that I was
Speaker 4: out there to represent for Michael Brown.
Speaker 2: Exactly know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And one thing that I you know, I try to
Speaker 4: do not I have no regrets in life.
Speaker 2: But that I had to ask the drink.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, it's streets sound a little too sober.
Speaker 2: That is your bottle, That is your bottle, you know,
Speaker 2: and sponsored some of the worst moments in my life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's wants some of the worst moments of Miss
Speaker 5: well Tyler. Yeah, so go ahead, you and Ferguson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I went down there. You know, I'll be
Speaker 2: on Twitter. Claar. You did not get paid to be in, fergus.
Speaker 4: No, No, Don Lemon got paid to be in. That's right,
Speaker 4: go ahead, continue. I was on Twitter, be on Twitter
Speaker 4: a lot, and you be arguing on fools.
Speaker 2: I see, I do. I you know.
Speaker 4: Jay Z said, if you argue with fools from a distance,
Speaker 4: they can't tell who's who.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's the wise man? But I tell him come
Speaker 2: a little closer. And it's very apparent that's makes some
Speaker 2: noise for him telling you come a little closer. Just
Speaker 2: if you come a little closer, you can see. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, what I'm doing, But you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like I was talking on Twitter to people who was retweeting,
Speaker 4: and people a lot of times people on social network
Speaker 4: think that they activists because they retweet some because they
Speaker 4: post something nice and positive on Facebook, and that's that's
Speaker 4: all good. But unless you have bodies on the ground,
Speaker 4: unless the flesh is involved. There's nothing really really happening.
Speaker 4: So I found myself being hypocritical because I'm talking about
Speaker 4: this on on Twitter.
Speaker 2: My man Jay Cole went down there. I think that,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm.
Speaker 4: Saying, Like, these are artist that I think maybe Gez
Speaker 4: Young Jez went down there before me, So.
Speaker 2: I've seen other artists go down know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I was like, Okay, I could go down I'm
Speaker 4: here on Twitter talking about it, let me go down there.
Speaker 4: I'm an artist, I'm my own boss. I don't have
Speaker 4: a schedule I have to adhere to.
Speaker 2: I could go down there.
Speaker 4: So I went down there, and I was happy to
Speaker 4: see my man Philip Agnew aka Umi Salat, who's here
Speaker 4: in Miami.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. From Dream Defenders. He was
Speaker 2: down there.
Speaker 4: I see I seen Uh Patrice from Black Lives Matter
Speaker 4: down there. I see people that are already fuck with
Speaker 4: down there, So I felt like I was in the
Speaker 4: right place. I met my man Tef Poe are artists
Speaker 4: from Saint Louis, very talent to them. See he's on
Speaker 4: my last album of Knife Wonder, which I are you on.
Speaker 2: He's on the saw. My man teft Poe on my
Speaker 2: man Tory Russell. They was down there. They was on
Speaker 2: the front.
Speaker 4: Lines, and my first night down there. To be honest
Speaker 4: with you, I kind of went down there on some
Speaker 4: like I'm just gonna show my face.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm drink. I see I got to drink. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I was gonna show my face.
Speaker 4: To be real with you, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like I wasn't planning on getting in no type of action.
Speaker 2: Or you just wanted to be show solid donity. You
Speaker 2: got maced or something like that. Yeah, there was no.
Speaker 4: I didn't get massed, but they sprayed tear gas in
Speaker 4: the air infected me a little bit. I had to
Speaker 4: peep the cops and uh, you know, agitated the people,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and they chased us down.
Speaker 4: I was down there with Rosa Clemente who's a friend
Speaker 4: of mine. Jessica care Moore was a poet. Cops and
Speaker 4: some young people. They chased us down there.
Speaker 2: Be related to Roberto Clemente because that's my cousin. She's not,
Speaker 2: but she is Puerto Rican. She is she is Puerto Rican.
Speaker 2: How many days into the protest is this when you
Speaker 2: get there.
Speaker 4: This is as soon as I got this, But I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, how many days had the protests, Okay.
Speaker 4: And it's been going going on about a week before,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe two weeks before I got down there, And
Speaker 4: you know, the people on the front line, I seen
Speaker 4: that they needed the voice that I seen that they
Speaker 4: needed representation.
Speaker 2: Shout out to my man Benzino. I seen him down there, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. There's a couple of other artists
Speaker 4: I can't think of right now, but Tea I was
Speaker 4: rolling with Tef Poe and them, and I was down
Speaker 4: there for about a week. I got asked to do
Speaker 4: a lot of press. I turned a lot of it down.
Speaker 4: I did Democracy Now with Amy Goodman, I did a
Speaker 4: Joyanne Reid show. But I was turning a lot of
Speaker 4: the press down because I wasn't down there as a rapper,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying as an actor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the people I.
Speaker 4: Got asked to do CNN. I had never met Don Lemon.
Speaker 4: I went down there to do the thing with him, and.
Speaker 2: This is the night before he said I smelled weed
Speaker 2: or this is the same. This is about a few
Speaker 2: months before that. Oh he said he smelled was a
Speaker 2: few months before he smelled the weed.
Speaker 4: You know, Don Lemon is somebody that I you know,
Speaker 4: even to this day, I clown to make fun of him.
Speaker 4: I had a little altercation with him on the air,
Speaker 4: but I have respect for.
Speaker 2: Him as a as a human being.
Speaker 4: You know, a gay man, black man on CNN.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he came out and Anderson you know gay.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like you know they did.
Speaker 2: I went, I went down there.
Speaker 4: I was very excited to do the interview with Don Lemon,
Speaker 4: and I was surprised at the way that he conducted
Speaker 4: the interview, and I think shocking my surprise. Me being
Speaker 4: used to doing interviews in a certain way as an
Speaker 4: artist was different from me doing interviews as I don't
Speaker 4: think Don Lemon understood my, my, my, who I was
Speaker 4: and what I was doing down there.
Speaker 2: I was just somebody who was dead. He had no
Speaker 2: frame of reference. No, he didn't know you beforehand. Nah,
Speaker 2: we never met him. Who might have been from St. Louis, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could have been rappers for Saint Louis.
Speaker 4: And no disrespect to rappers from Saint Louis, because you
Speaker 4: know those are the voices like my man Tef Poe.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like people whose rappers from there,
Speaker 4: they know what was up for real, Like, really they
Speaker 4: should have interviewed Teft Poe really, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They were walking by. That's how this happened. Now, they
Speaker 2: called me. CNN called me a lot. They called me
Speaker 2: a lot. The real story is they called me a lot.
Speaker 4: They called me like like ten times like and I
Speaker 4: said no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: And they said Anderson Cooper was going to do the story.
Speaker 4: And you know, I have a lot of respect for
Speaker 4: Anderson Cooper, me too, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I'm gonna do it. When I
Speaker 4: got down there, they had Don Lemon. I didn't, you know.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Don Lemon cool? Was you all
Speaker 2: of Don levonly? Yeah? I didn't have no. I didn't
Speaker 2: have no opinion of him. Yeah I did.
Speaker 4: I was aware of him. I knew he was on CNN.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't a fan. I wasn't not a fan. I
Speaker 2: didn't know who he was.
Speaker 4: I just knew he was famous, you know, black dude
Speaker 4: on CNN. So I did an interview with him. And
Speaker 4: you know, I just didn't like the way that you know,
Speaker 4: I felt like, you know, Don Lemon is on CNN
Speaker 4: on TV a lot. I feel like, if you call
Speaker 4: me to interview me, you want to hear what I.
Speaker 2: Got to say. As soon as I started speaking, he started.
Speaker 4: Speaking, you know what I'm saying, and my gut instinct
Speaker 4: kicked in, you know what I'm saying. But like I said,
Speaker 4: with the start of this, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like I wish I would have talked more about Michael
Speaker 4: Brown instead of getting into it with Lemon.
Speaker 2: No, but you know what I want to tell you
Speaker 2: that it was. It was.
Speaker 5: It was necessary for the time because you being on
Speaker 5: the ground, you probably didn't see all of the news footage.
Speaker 2: Me being on the road.
Speaker 5: At the time, I did see all the news footage,
Speaker 5: and he just wasn't It was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: You know, we'll all due respect to him because I
Speaker 5: never met Donald, you know what I'm saying, sooball me
Speaker 5: judging him is absolutely pre prejudice because I never met
Speaker 5: that guy, right, never been in.
Speaker 2: Front of him.
Speaker 5: But from what I see, he's what represents an uncle Tom.
Speaker 5: He's represents like the people who don't understand the struggle.
Speaker 5: The people who don't understand that Mike Brown was innocently killed,
Speaker 5: the people don't understand the Trayvon Mines that he was.
Speaker 5: He was the epitome of the black guy who doesn't
Speaker 5: understand our struggle. So although your plot put him in,
Speaker 5: your confrontation with him might have took away from what
Speaker 5: Mike Brown, it also shed light on the situation that listen, brother,
Speaker 5: if you one of us, you got to be one
Speaker 5: of us.
Speaker 2: And if you're not, then you're just not.
Speaker 4: I think he does because I think as a black
Speaker 4: gay dude, he understands. Yeah, I shouldn't know he was gay,
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think he understands it, and I think
Speaker 4: he goes through it. You know what I'm saying As
Speaker 4: somebody who works in the mainstream media, right, I got
Speaker 4: I think he understands it.
Speaker 2: But you know, people who work for a living, and
Speaker 2: we all have.
Speaker 4: Jobs, a lot of us compromise our gut feelings on
Speaker 4: morals and compromise who we are as people for that check.
Speaker 4: Don Lemon is there to represent CNN. CNN is a
Speaker 4: corporate interest.
Speaker 5: He's not there, dude, like that he represents CNN. Let's
Speaker 5: make some noise for don CNN.
Speaker 4: Ahead not not CNN, like you know, the official CNN
Speaker 4: kind of hood to you know, gangst the ship, the
Speaker 4: other bad guys.
Speaker 2: You can't put that there. Come on, the other bad guys,
Speaker 2: come on.
Speaker 4: But I think that he represents he He was doing
Speaker 4: his job. The moment I spoke out against mainstream media,
Speaker 4: I didn't even say CNN.
Speaker 2: He took offense to.
Speaker 4: Me saying mainstream media is a problem. He looked at
Speaker 4: CNN as being a part of mainstream media. He took
Speaker 4: offense to me dissing his team.
Speaker 2: That's what it was.
Speaker 4: And the conversation got missing because he was like, wait
Speaker 4: a second, CNN is fair.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm fair. I feel like I worked
Speaker 2: for CNN. I'm fair, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, he represents the mainstream Me
Speaker 4: to the mainstream media. Job is to enable the status
Speaker 4: quote and the convince us that the status quote is okay.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like CNN, the only reason CNN.
Speaker 4: Was down there was in the host that there would
Speaker 4: be a riot. The only reason that M S N,
Speaker 4: B C, even even the left wing I'm not talking
Speaker 4: about Fox News and all the bullshit. But even the
Speaker 4: left wing, supposedly on our side, media is down there
Speaker 4: because they hope that some violence. Wow, if there wasn't
Speaker 4: a thread of violence, they wouldn't be down there.
Speaker 2: So then they tell.
Speaker 4: You we shouldn't write, They tell you we shouldn't burn
Speaker 4: down the CBS, and I agree with that. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't think violence solve anyone.
Speaker 6: CBS or CBS, CVSS understandship, CBS.
Speaker 4: I think that you know they don Lemon was doing
Speaker 4: his job very well.
Speaker 2: I like you being political. He was.
Speaker 4: That's not even that's not even politics, moneigga, that's just
Speaker 4: real ship like like, he was doing the job. Now,
Speaker 4: you and me, as artist, the reason you could call
Speaker 4: yourself norier, the reason you could do a podcast with
Speaker 4: EFN say whatever the fuck you want, is because you're
Speaker 4: an artist.
Speaker 2: You have no boss. Talk about it, you have no bo.
Speaker 2: Keep going, keep going. You see where you're going.
Speaker 4: You see when Laurence Hill don't show up to a show,
Speaker 4: everybody get mad. Guess what, you could be mad, But
Speaker 4: guess what, So the fuck what she don't work for you?
Speaker 2: She could she could show up when she feels like
Speaker 2: showing up and guess what, she don't feel like it.
Speaker 2: She don't have to show up. Something personal happen in
Speaker 2: our life.
Speaker 4: She can be like I'm chilling today. She has an
Speaker 4: arrangement with the venue.
Speaker 2: Owner, the promoter, and you have, you have, You don't
Speaker 2: know it.
Speaker 4: You're not privy to that. So the only person she
Speaker 4: might owe some to is somebody that you're not even
Speaker 4: privy to.
Speaker 2: As artists, we have no boss.
Speaker 4: And a lot of people don't understand that, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because a lot of people caught up
Speaker 4: in the debt system, in the slavery system, and they
Speaker 4: think they have bosses that people have to report to.
Speaker 4: That's not something that I'm judging. You can't be judgmental
Speaker 4: with people got to do to survive, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You can't judge that. But you got to.
Speaker 4: Understand the difference between somebody you know and and it's
Speaker 4: the same thing as a gangster. Like a gangster has
Speaker 4: no boss.
Speaker 5: Like most depth, he's an r e for real, he's
Speaker 5: an run right? Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Hold on what happened? He just said America and he
Speaker 2: just left.
Speaker 4: I think y'all seen Bay. You know I went to
Speaker 4: visit him. I went to visit in Africa and South.
Speaker 2: Let's just make some noise for the nigga going back home.
Speaker 1: That just makes.
Speaker 2: I ain't got the heart. They ain't got a w
Speaker 2: in Africa, right, I can't a w they got They
Speaker 2: got a home away of Airbnb. You know, I'm not
Speaker 2: a fan of Nbnb yet now.
Speaker 3: I'm not not.
Speaker 4: I don't don't with Airbnb. But listen, y'all seen Bay
Speaker 4: he decided a long time ago, if you pay attention
Speaker 4: to his moves, that he wasn't fucking with America a
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 2: That's hard, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And he traveled the world. You know, he's an internationally
Speaker 4: known artist. He is settled in South Africa.
Speaker 2: He do got some leaders. He had an international passport,
Speaker 2: a world a world world world passport. What the fuck
Speaker 2: does that mean?
Speaker 4: A world passport is so, you know, he has a
Speaker 4: website where my man Ferrari Shepherd shout out to my man.
Speaker 2: I got a website. I don't got a worldwide. They
Speaker 2: got a website called a country called Earth.
Speaker 4: And the whole concept behind it is, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: a citizen of the world.
Speaker 2: Like these borders. You know, we all this is a
Speaker 2: room full of immigrants, room for the anger.
Speaker 4: We've done good for some immigrants. These borders are set
Speaker 4: up by colonists. These borders set up by warring European
Speaker 4: factions that are that are interested in in enabling white
Speaker 4: supremacy and keeping it going.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like keeping the people with people.
Speaker 4: With murder are raped and tortured for them to create
Speaker 4: these lines and these divisions between people.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, no human being is illegal.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If you get drunk.
Speaker 4: And you drive and you kill them offucker, are you
Speaker 4: an a legal driving No, you're not. So no human
Speaker 4: being is illegal? Is that that's a that's a misnomer.
Speaker 4: No human being is an alien. No human being is illegal.
Speaker 5: And let's make some noise for the people trying to
Speaker 5: cross the borders.
Speaker 4: We are we are not. Damn word is bombed and
Speaker 4: so y'all seen being farrari shephard. They have this concept
Speaker 4: of just global global citizen citizensry and no human being
Speaker 4: is illegal and country called Earth.
Speaker 2: We are all citizens in the world. So he can
Speaker 2: he still like go to like countries. That's cool with Yeah,
Speaker 2: the World Passport is recognized as certain countries. How did
Speaker 2: he get that? You could from where he's somebody to
Speaker 2: get that fingerprints prints the world.
Speaker 4: From what I understand, in the World Passport, you could
Speaker 4: get it if you do through.
Speaker 2: The research and you just anybody could get it.
Speaker 4: But it's not recognized everywhere, and it's not recognizing every
Speaker 4: situation like they might recognize it. I think the situation
Speaker 4: with South Africa is they recognized it sometimes and they
Speaker 4: don't record.
Speaker 2: They pick and choose.
Speaker 4: So I think the situation was he was trying to
Speaker 4: travel in this particular time they didn't recognize the World Passport.
Speaker 2: So he has a little legal issue. He got solved.
Speaker 4: But you know, he's been in South Africa and Tunisia
Speaker 4: and Morocco and he's just been a citizen of the world.
Speaker 2: And then how did your guys initially meet?
Speaker 5: Because the Black Star thing was yeah, so big and
Speaker 5: we only got one album, correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to my man Rubik's.
Speaker 4: When I was a young we lad back in the
Speaker 4: salad days of my career.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, we lad in salad. I've never heard
Speaker 2: this term we that's just Irish. That's Irish I'm a
Speaker 2: we lady. My salad days. I'm a fan of the
Speaker 2: Coen Brothers films.
Speaker 4: If you watch Raised in Arizona, Nicholas Cage, he talks
Speaker 4: about him and Holly Hunter, I think his name of
Speaker 4: the actress, and he's talking about the early days of
Speaker 4: their relationships and he said that the salad days the
Speaker 4: days before the appetizer and the meal on the entree
Speaker 4: the salad day. So in my salad days, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I used to hang out of Washington
Speaker 4: Square Park. I used to hang out with Incredible MC's
Speaker 4: like Supernatural.
Speaker 2: Is this where half Bake came from?
Speaker 4: Dave Dave Chappelle was in the park. Okapelle was in
Speaker 4: the park around his time. Washington Square Park Ate Off
Speaker 4: the Assassin was in.
Speaker 2: The Getting the Head Pop. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Gene Gray was in the park.
Speaker 4: Most Death was in the park, but Most Death was
Speaker 4: also a TV star. He had a show with with
Speaker 4: Nell Carter. I forget the name of the show, but
Speaker 4: it was he was Nell Carter him and had a
Speaker 4: show right then. He had a show with Malcolm Jamal
Speaker 4: Warner had a TV show when he left The Cosby Show,
Speaker 4: show a teacher at Harlem. He had a class the
Speaker 4: seventh graders. Most Death was one of the seventh creators.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then in the Cosby Mysteries, the first Drake and
Speaker 2: this is in Brooklyn, this is in Brooklyn, was brought
Speaker 2: in brook Glynn, young niggas got mad shipping brook Let's
Speaker 2: make some noise in Brooklyn being ranch.
Speaker 5: Hester rhymes, Big and jay Z all to school together.
Speaker 2: Brooklyn got hold on, hold on, hold on now, let
Speaker 2: me let me call it at the seven eighteen got
Speaker 2: the best of seven one eight. Yeah, he said, seven eighteen.
Speaker 2: That was too smart for me. I had to think
Speaker 2: the same day on seven seven, y'all got y'all.
Speaker 4: Got thousands of star faces.
Speaker 2: Bees and well, we got jay Z's and nos and
Speaker 2: differently seven one eight seven one eight unities like black
Speaker 2: and brown you right here, right here, right here, right.
Speaker 4: But yeah, most Death was doing this thing on the acting.
Speaker 4: He had the deon Sanda's American Express commercial.
Speaker 7: I know he was.
Speaker 2: He was broke. It was an American Express.
Speaker 4: We was broke, we was we be in the park.
Speaker 4: We would hop the train. I used to live flat Bush,
Speaker 4: hop the train and go to Washington, Washington Square, Park,
Speaker 4: the freestyle most death was the only nigga good money.
Speaker 4: He would take everybody to McDonald's on West Fourth.
Speaker 2: I got arrested at the McDonald's. I'm sure you continue
Speaker 2: from the basketball and tragedy.
Speaker 4: Story when I was fifteen years old. All right, I
Speaker 4: mean a real story right now. At my at the
Speaker 4: house I rented, I'm shooting a video. My man is
Speaker 4: in there shooting the video.
Speaker 2: It's makes some noise from listen. Most people rent a hotel.
Speaker 2: He's experienced. Yeah, house, it's cheaper than the hotel. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I'm frugal. We don't know that word.
Speaker 2: Can you explain frugal. It's cheap. It's a fancy word
Speaker 2: for cheap.
Speaker 5: I am now using that word for poss The news
Speaker 5: is at this house right now.
Speaker 2: It's still potholes in my law.
Speaker 8: Let's make a noise for Donalds at.
Speaker 2: My New York. Niggas can remember this. I used to
Speaker 2: shop at Renaissance.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's cool now, but it used to
Speaker 4: be on Houston and Broadway, and they used to have
Speaker 4: the Doc Martin boots and the Jaebo jeans.
Speaker 2: I used to do it for Jabo jeans. I ran
Speaker 2: it the posta news. This is what day I saw
Speaker 2: with the Hottest Blood. I don't know if you're gonna
Speaker 2: say this is a joint. It is a blood. It's
Speaker 2: a blood so much the hottest ship. Hold on, let
Speaker 2: me make sure it's living. I'm about to smoke it.
Speaker 2: I smoke the blood with too short. I got care
Speaker 2: rests drunk, and now I got Tyler quality smoking. That
Speaker 2: is not news. That is not news, I know.
Speaker 5: But you know why I live. Let me just this
Speaker 5: is one of the main reasons why I wanted you
Speaker 5: on the podcast is because you do so much great
Speaker 5: in the community that sometimes, like you know, our preachers
Speaker 5: are are our bartenders. When I say by bartenders, I mean, like,
Speaker 5: you know, to pull up guys in the hood in
Speaker 5: New York. Sometimes they seem holy in down and sometimes
Speaker 5: when you just need to show.
Speaker 2: Them that they're human. And when you show them that
Speaker 2: they're human, it's more people that can say, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna follow. I'm gonna follow his league because he's
Speaker 2: also human like not.
Speaker 4: It's crazy because I'm you know, I've been in this
Speaker 4: business for a long time. I'm known for a certain
Speaker 4: type of record but you know, ever since a business business,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You remember the time he's in Larryos. Yes, somebody came
Speaker 2: up to you and ask you for you using Larios
Speaker 2: like Gloria Esta Bar restaurant, and I'm be drinking together,
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, Wow, the world need to know Tyl
Speaker 2: Live can have fun. You know what I'm saying. Because
Speaker 2: he makes so serious records. You know, he's a political guy.
Speaker 5: It's great. That part is awesome. That's what I represent.
Speaker 5: Kris One was my favorite rapper, so you understand that
Speaker 5: I respect all that. But I'm seeing him have a
Speaker 5: great time. So a person comes up to him and says,
Speaker 5: you Live, I want to do a joint with you.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, He's like yeah, and he's like, Yo, Norrie,
Speaker 5: I want to do a joint.
Speaker 2: I say, Tyler Is my new manager, looked at me
Speaker 2: and was like, fucked up, nigga. But he went along
Speaker 2: with it, and that you wouldn't right along with let's
Speaker 2: make some noise with talent, going along with with my
Speaker 2: found man. I managed your nory.
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I definitely didn't want to do a song
Speaker 5: with the dude, so I send him right this how
Speaker 5: I live. But people need to I think that that's
Speaker 5: that's one of the greatest things is that when you
Speaker 5: know you like like when people say, I don't know,
Speaker 5: this is fucked up. But when people say Martin was
Speaker 5: fucking bitches on the side, it's like everybody like, damn,
Speaker 5: that's fucked up. But it's like, nah, he's a human,
Speaker 5: like he was fucking he was fighting every day for
Speaker 5: human rights if he wanted to get.
Speaker 2: A butt of a nut on the side, not the
Speaker 2: nigga live. Man makes some noise for Martin.
Speaker 1: Hey man makes a lloyse for Martin fucking on the side.
Speaker 2: Come on, Martin, I told you.
Speaker 4: Lawrence to Mars, unnamed rapper told me this, and I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna blow up the spot this or unnamed rapper
Speaker 4: told me this on his first tour.
Speaker 2: He said, hey man, all the prophets have holes.
Speaker 5: Because you know why, it shows that you're human. The
Speaker 5: thing about preachers, the thing about the church is doesn't
Speaker 5: work no more, is because you see these people and
Speaker 5: they got to gay the shoes on, and they got
Speaker 5: to they look so good and and and they charlatan
Speaker 5: him and they show you no mistakes. So they show
Speaker 5: you no mistakes. Why would somebody follow you? Because it's like, damn,
Speaker 5: I ain't never going to be like you. I have flaws.
Speaker 5: You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like, So that's why when you learn the story about
Speaker 4: his flaws, when you learn about Malcolm flaws, when you
Speaker 4: learn about Jesus flaws.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: When you when you read the books that are outside
Speaker 4: of the Bible, outside of the King James version of
Speaker 4: the Bible, when you see when Jesus went to travel
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He gained knowledge all over the world supposedly.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like and had and had flaws.
Speaker 4: It was it was a man. But that you know that,
Speaker 4: that's what That's what makes people able to relate.
Speaker 2: But Black Star is such a legendary.
Speaker 4: But before you go into black because I was started
Speaker 4: talking about pasta news posts, I went into Renaissance.
Speaker 2: I said, past my favorite day, I saw my favorite ship.
Speaker 2: I rapped. What do I do?
Speaker 4: He said, go to rush artist managements around the corner
Speaker 4: on Elizabeth, right, So I went around to that. I
Speaker 4: went around the corner.
Speaker 2: I go on the lobby. Tragedy is there, Yes he was.
Speaker 2: But first search sorry right, search walked in.
Speaker 4: I'm ass searched. I just I'm fifteen years old. I'm
Speaker 4: as search. This is when gas Face was.
Speaker 2: It was hot.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, Tragedy walks in. I got a
Speaker 4: picture in my house right now. Tragedy had the wild
Speaker 4: dreads on the top with the fade on the side.
Speaker 2: He had the little Malcolm spectacles.
Speaker 4: And he had like a raincoat on, and this nigga,
Speaker 4: Tragedy sat there and talked.
Speaker 2: To me for two hours. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like he was the first. This is a real story
Speaker 4: that you're hearing on drink Champs. Tragedy was the first
Speaker 4: rapper that showed me love.
Speaker 2: Tragedy was the first first. That's right, high five. But
Speaker 2: you don't know me from from He just started giving
Speaker 2: me advice. But you know what, it is not the
Speaker 2: industry for me and all that.
Speaker 4: We sat on Elizabeth in Houston for two hours watching
Speaker 4: the people walk by. I don't even know why he
Speaker 4: had the time.
Speaker 2: Now, sometimes you know who the next person is. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it's just energy, you know what I'm saying, It's just aura.
Speaker 2: Look at that look at that.
Speaker 5: So you and Hot Tech, Yeah, let's get back first
Speaker 5: Black black Star because you know why, you know, uh,
Speaker 5: black Star is such a legendary thing that you guys did,
Speaker 5: Like this is the first time in history we were
Speaker 5: presented a group first and then you guys did solo
Speaker 5: ship and y'all just never got back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Is that accurate? Yes, yeah it is.
Speaker 4: It's you know, Black Star, Me and Most Death with
Speaker 4: solo artists, and we had styles that complimented to each
Speaker 4: each other, were fans of each other. We talked casually
Speaker 4: about doing a group. We both signed The Raucous. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Jared and Brian, you know, they saw the vision and
Speaker 4: they was like, Okay, let's do a Black Star. And
Speaker 4: at the same time Most Death was like, let's do
Speaker 4: this black Star situation. Rocus saw it at the same time,
Speaker 4: so it converged. And he was working on a TV show.
Speaker 4: He's working in a movie. I forget which movie.
Speaker 2: Movies he was working in the movie.
Speaker 5: After time, he was staying, this is when I knew
Speaker 5: I can't act for Ship. Listen, let me just tell
Speaker 5: you something. This is when I knew I can't act
Speaker 5: for Ship. I've seen that nigga play a doctor, and
Speaker 5: I believed him.
Speaker 4: And I said, listen, I'm gonna tell you when I
Speaker 4: knew most Deep was there when I seen him. When
Speaker 4: I watched Master's Ball, my nigga Mossus Ball and this
Speaker 4: is my nigga I'm spending every day with. And I
Speaker 4: watched it for thirty minutes and I said, wait, that's
Speaker 4: most Step.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, That's how I knew I can't when he
Speaker 2: did that the.
Speaker 4: TV player Berry in the in the Cadillac Records movie.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. With he was wearing his hair.
Speaker 4: And talking and acting like and dressing like Chuck Berry
Speaker 4: around us, but he didn't tell us that he was
Speaker 4: doing a movie, so I thought he wasn't. He was
Speaker 4: just losing his.
Speaker 2: Mind, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like he was a character, his hair, he had the outfits,
Speaker 4: he was talking and and that. When I saw the movie,
Speaker 4: I said, Okay, did he go to acting school?
Speaker 2: Nah? He just a dude from bed Star who got
Speaker 2: who got talent? Wow? You know, shout out to Umi
Speaker 2: and Abby.
Speaker 4: They saw enough to make sure that he had the
Speaker 4: opportunities and present him with the opportunities.
Speaker 2: So so, but when you guys did the Black Star album?
Speaker 2: Did you? Did you? Did you?
Speaker 5: Did you understand how big like the culture was gonna
Speaker 5: gravitate towards that or nah?
Speaker 2: I think we just the moment had a lot to
Speaker 2: do with vinyl.
Speaker 4: Brookers was putting out vinyl and and the DJs, the
Speaker 4: DJs were craving vinyl.
Speaker 5: Carest Let me just telling people, okay, people, vinyl is
Speaker 5: the record. It's a record, you put it on. It's
Speaker 5: stools around, It's not a stream, you know.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: Real DJs used to cut it back, bring it back.
Speaker 5: Your mom's got it in your house. Your mom's got
Speaker 5: it in your house somewhere. Your mother has a vinylin
Speaker 5: I'm sorry you all right?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Raucus was putting out vinyl for people, for hip
Speaker 4: hop fans that would starved for vinyl, and that's part
Speaker 4: of Roku's business plan. That's how they blew up because
Speaker 4: a lot of the DJs were pushing back against the
Speaker 4: move away from vinyl. You had big companies like bad
Speaker 4: Boy that was putting out great quality pop mainstream hip hop,
Speaker 4: but they wasn't serving the DJs with the vinyl. They
Speaker 4: was trying to move away from it. You go to
Speaker 4: Tower Records or whatever. Back in the days you couldn't
Speaker 4: buy vinyl. Raucous would put out Shabam's Deek Sermental, Lick, Company, Flow,
Speaker 4: most Death, probably all vinyl.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The people was the DJs would appreciate that Racius was
Speaker 4: focused on the DJ and they focused on underground hip
Speaker 4: hop and focus on certain sounds. So when they put
Speaker 4: out The Blackstar. I remember the Stress magazine, my man
Speaker 4: Allan Stress.
Speaker 2: Cat and Clive Vallent. You got to cover Trust, but
Speaker 2: it was a.
Speaker 4: Graffiti writers that had that magazine, and Raucus did a
Speaker 4: collaboration with Stressed.
Speaker 2: With Stressed where they did the vinyl on the cover.
Speaker 4: The vinyl for Definition was on the cover of Trust
Speaker 4: attached to the magazine.
Speaker 2: They sent a copy to funk Master Flex.
Speaker 4: He loved it. As a DJ, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 4: I started my career working for Jessica ros Yeah, I
Speaker 4: used to live in Flappers down the street.
Speaker 5: I got your clubs.
Speaker 2: Jessica's love I was absolute.
Speaker 4: When when CNN first drop, when Nori Component and rig
Speaker 4: Ther first drop, I was working for Dress, Jessica Rosenbacker,
Speaker 4: John Forte John is my best friend. At the time,
Speaker 4: Jessica was managing John Forte, I was fourteen fifteen. Jessica
Speaker 4: Rosenbaum is a party promoter in New York. She used
Speaker 4: to manage Master Flex. But let me tell you, let
Speaker 4: me break it down. She managed Funk Master Flex before
Speaker 4: there was a ninety seven.
Speaker 2: There was a Hot Night seven. Before Hot Night seven
Speaker 2: was a hip hop station. It was a freestyle station.
Speaker 4: They used to play Stevie B records like you gotta
Speaker 4: Beliad's side.
Speaker 2: I mean used to do that club. Let's keep it
Speaker 2: going with home Base. I went to that home to day.
Speaker 4: I went to the Boon Spot, the tunnel, this pre
Speaker 4: tunnel tunnel. When Jessica got the tunnel, that was a
Speaker 4: cool peteration. She started working Petergation. We're doing lime Light
Speaker 4: Tunnel to fly.
Speaker 2: You gotta tell him, we gotta tell him with because
Speaker 2: this is the church. It was a church.
Speaker 5: The church is literally it's a church a church and
Speaker 5: then closed down.
Speaker 2: A documentary. I don't know if there's a movie called
Speaker 2: Party Monster and that's about this whole situation. I definitely
Speaker 2: went to home Base. I didn't go there.
Speaker 4: Home Base was home base with the home base was
Speaker 4: with Jessica's Hip Hop.
Speaker 2: Ship saw House of Paying there and the ghetto girls.
Speaker 2: All right, So so.
Speaker 4: When you when you when you when you went to
Speaker 4: that club, if you went to like like say the
Speaker 4: Warehouse District, Dominoes will have a record, Ghetto jam out.
Speaker 2: I would post up the posters.
Speaker 4: For Dominoes coming to town.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like that, I worked for Jessica like Enough, it was
Speaker 4: Flip Squad, it was Funk Master Flex Enough.
Speaker 2: Mad Wayne Baka recipes.
Speaker 4: I'm saying. DJ Buda Khan did the reggae, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and and biz Mark he was down
Speaker 4: for a second when he first started DJ Ship, he
Speaker 4: was down with Flip Squad. I used to hand out
Speaker 4: the flyers. She managed John Forte from Master Flex. First
Speaker 4: record was with Non Double lems Man from the Bronx
Speaker 4: on Nervous. The B side was a record called the Boom.
Speaker 2: Spot six Million Ways to Die. Yeah, the B sides
Speaker 2: put out that Nervous.
Speaker 4: The B side is John Forte.
Speaker 2: Hold on for all these new guys listening, we are
Speaker 2: getting real hip hop.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if you listen to what was that I'm doing
Speaker 2: the record label He just said.
Speaker 9: Nervous, nervous to put out the wash black more.
Speaker 2: Truth.
Speaker 5: Oh man, this is real hip hop right now, get
Speaker 5: your Google get your Google's on continue.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So that's my start in the business was with John
Speaker 4: Forte Wow and fun Master Flex and Jessica Rosenbaum and
Speaker 4: she was working with Puff at the time. He was
Speaker 4: her partner at the time. You know when when Flex
Speaker 4: used to have the parties at the Palladium. People used
Speaker 4: to on Friday nights the Palladium. Matter of fact, I
Speaker 4: seen I seen ice Cube perform at the Palladium with
Speaker 4: Flex and King's Son came out Wicked and King Sun
Speaker 4: came out to Young Q that's my song that you stole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was there for all that ship I seen.
Speaker 2: I've seen Trench.
Speaker 4: Challenge day Light song on stage because he was mad
Speaker 4: because they had the record when they they said so
Speaker 4: stick to your Nundy by Natures and your Pain.
Speaker 2: And when they was reading both on Tommy Boy, They're
Speaker 2: like classic moment. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was at the Palladium for all those funk Master
Speaker 4: Flex parties.
Speaker 2: Flex. I was at the Pladium for some of them parties.
Speaker 2: I was usually kicked out. I know what you was doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So how about you in high tech? Right right?
Speaker 4: So this is night like I'm a high schooler.
Speaker 2: In ninety two ninety three. This is what Jessica doing
Speaker 2: his parties. Okay, So I went to n YU.
Speaker 5: It's my wife, everybody peace, God damn it, She's coming
Speaker 5: in here to make sure everybody's.
Speaker 8: Acting correct, all right, party.
Speaker 4: I went to n y U and then I got
Speaker 4: and then I left, and then I started working at
Speaker 4: in Q Books.
Speaker 2: I was doing these uh.
Speaker 4: Book show shows, these bookstore shows with like Dead Prayers
Speaker 4: and Lord Jamon and you.
Speaker 2: And around ninety five, I went to l A.
Speaker 4: In ninety five, I was friends with Mike and nine
Speaker 4: for Freestyle Fellowship.
Speaker 2: He had moved to New York. He was signed to
Speaker 2: Keydr Mask Dr Entertainment.
Speaker 4: He moved to New York. Baby. I was working on
Speaker 4: Di'andelo and Erica by doing Micah at the time, hanging
Speaker 4: out with them, and then I went to LA to
Speaker 4: funk with him.
Speaker 2: I caught a hitch hiked to the day hold on
Speaker 2: time out. You're the first black man I ever heard
Speaker 2: you the word hit. But look I was back. I
Speaker 2: took a greathound bus from New York to l A.
Speaker 2: But you gotta got that from white people.
Speaker 7: You just you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you just you.
Speaker 2: He wasn't in Brooklyn and flat Bossing Nigga Saidyoga, you
Speaker 2: got that from your white friend.
Speaker 4: I did Los Angeles at the bay Mystic Journeyman. Shout
Speaker 4: out to Mystic Journeyman from Bay Area. I met them
Speaker 4: at a club and at the Good Life Cafe in
Speaker 4: Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: And they told me come to the Bay Area.
Speaker 4: You're good.
Speaker 2: I hate popa collar. No, this is way before that,
Speaker 2: but in my mind when he said it, I just
Speaker 2: popped the collar.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, God, that was hella hyphee.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I might have to ask you to get
Speaker 5: some more drinks. You got you gotta lose and you
Speaker 5: was shooting a video today. Let's make up your video
Speaker 5: you was doing on.
Speaker 2: That secret tip.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Nico as a chazz uh Van Queen
Speaker 4: shout a video for a song called good Girls today.
Speaker 2: Good girls. Okay, good girls. I meet good girls in
Speaker 2: the right places.
Speaker 3: Mm.
Speaker 2: My new album is called Torter Force.
Speaker 4: He used to be called very Smart to Force. I
Speaker 4: got electronic on it, I got walk a flock on it.
Speaker 4: I got Nori on it.
Speaker 5: He almost he's putting pressure on it. Let's make some
Speaker 5: nooys with Tyler bullying me.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. He's just drink chat to me on
Speaker 2: the drink. Cham what we do well? Tyler is my
Speaker 2: mama bum boy man. Like you know.
Speaker 5: One of the things that I know, I said it earlier,
Speaker 5: but I want to just reiterate it is I just
Speaker 5: want to show to people how cool you are. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, a lot of people think you're
Speaker 5: so serious. Why you know, because you know why you
Speaker 5: do speak up for us?
Speaker 2: And you know. I remember me asking Russell Simmons one night.
Speaker 2: I said, your Russell, I want you to run for
Speaker 2: president and he said, I smoked dope before. And I said, Russell,
Speaker 2: everybody smoked weed before? Said no, normal, I smoked heroin.
Speaker 2: That's not.
Speaker 5: I've seen the show. I'm not, but I want you
Speaker 5: to run for New York City mayor. Are you mad
Speaker 5: at me from throwing that out there?
Speaker 4: No, I'm not mad at you know what? Local politics
Speaker 4: is better than presidential politics, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: so you could do you go do the New York
Speaker 4: City No, I'm not, because.
Speaker 2: You could do right here, drink chance radio running for
Speaker 2: Brooklyn City councilman.
Speaker 4: Like like the city councilman, the assemblyman, the school board,
Speaker 4: public service announcement. You got to vote for these people
Speaker 4: if you have kids and they go to school in
Speaker 4: your neighborhoods.
Speaker 2: That's the interesting that people miss. That's the part that
Speaker 2: people miss.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not I'm slacking
Speaker 4: on it because I don't even be in New York
Speaker 4: enough to do it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I'm just a public service.
Speaker 5: Now, just one Senate and his and he's holly there.
Speaker 5: I think that I think that, you know, honestly, I
Speaker 5: know I'm playing around a little bit, but I think
Speaker 5: like people like jay Z Russell Simmons. I tell people
Speaker 5: who know politics, like me, I learned my politics.
Speaker 2: On Bill Moore. Like you know what I'm saying. If
Speaker 2: it's on Bill Moore, I know what's going on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but his politics. But it's like this.
Speaker 4: I used to be the type of nigga this but
Speaker 4: you know politics, this footage of me talking about why
Speaker 4: you shouldn't vote.
Speaker 2: I'm not somebody.
Speaker 4: Who believes that you should just vote for the sake
Speaker 4: of voting. People be like people died for the sake
Speaker 4: of voting. Voting in America is a broken system. But
Speaker 4: I read I read Man and Marrable book about Malcolm X.
Speaker 4: And Malcolm X his ship was the ballot of Man
Speaker 4: and Marrable. He's a scholar. He wrote a book called
Speaker 4: The Reinvention, A life and Reinvention. It's a it's a
Speaker 4: book about Malcolm xIC come after Malcolm X's autobiographer. Oh wow,
Speaker 4: it's a good book. I sell it on my website,
Speaker 4: qualityclub dot com.
Speaker 2: The same as club. We don't sell any books in
Speaker 2: our day. We don't sell No. I sell hoodies and
Speaker 2: T shirts and hats. That the audio book with that, No,
Speaker 2: I'm working on that. A couple coming coming. But I
Speaker 2: got so he he changed.
Speaker 4: My mind when I read this book because Man, Man
Speaker 4: and Marrable wrote about how Malcolm X got with Adam
Speaker 4: Clayton Powell in the sixties. Adam Clayton Powell is famous
Speaker 4: senator from Harlem.
Speaker 2: They formed voting Black Adam Clayton, Adam CLA. Powell. You
Speaker 2: know what exactly, That's what I'm talking about. I got awkward.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but that's.
Speaker 4: That's real ship said, So Adam Clayton got with Malcolm
Speaker 4: X and they formed voting blocks. So you see the
Speaker 4: Irish people in New York and the Jewish people, they
Speaker 4: vote as a as a community. They get they they
Speaker 4: get their ship if they if they want some trash.
Speaker 4: The Cubans in Miami, they went to trash cleaned up.
Speaker 4: They want to stop sign whatever they want they get
Speaker 4: because they vote as voting blocks. As African American people,
Speaker 4: we don't do that. Adam Clayton, Powell, Malcolm X figured
Speaker 4: out how to do that. That's what convinced me that
Speaker 4: the vote is worse some you vote on me, not
Speaker 4: and as an individually. Because Electoral College ensure that all
Speaker 4: the white people and all the rich landowners, they all
Speaker 4: the people own land and rich people. The Electoral College
Speaker 4: make sure that they vote count more than the vote
Speaker 4: in California count more than the vote in New York
Speaker 4: because California is a bigger place and more rich people
Speaker 4: own land there.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So, but if we get together and vote as a block,
Speaker 4: like the Cuban people in Miami or the Jewis Jewish
Speaker 4: people do in New York, then we can affect change,
Speaker 4: and that's what I'm down with.
Speaker 2: You know, I live. I'm gonna let you know right now. Yes,
Speaker 2: the hip hop community get together and vote for you.
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna take the job. God Son. We got people.
Speaker 4: We got Rasparaka. He was on a Lauryn Hill album.
Speaker 4: That's Amer Barack. I went to Cuba of Ross Barack.
Speaker 2: And I met Asda Core with Ross Baraka, and he's
Speaker 2: he's done there. He's the mayor of Newark, New Jersey
Speaker 2: right now. He was not there. Tupaca is alive when
Speaker 2: I went there.
Speaker 4: Uh Asada is there and shout out to Nahanda Abbiyo,
Speaker 4: she's dead.
Speaker 2: We went to Cuba. You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying that You've been going to Cuba
Speaker 2: for a long time, but I went once one.
Speaker 7: You don't get to just know when that that helped us.
Speaker 7: You're in hip hop into.
Speaker 2: Listen, yeah, yeah, yeah, but look at that.
Speaker 5: You helped the Cubans go back to Cubook. Come on,
Speaker 5: make no doubt you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're gonna make it. We're gonna force man. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna start up. I'm gonna start up. What is it
Speaker 2: a petition? A petition. We're gonna hit everybody on Twitter
Speaker 2: every day. We need a hip hop man. That's the
Speaker 2: hip hop.
Speaker 4: But we got the from Jersey Jersey about Corey Booker.
Speaker 2: He's hip hop Corey.
Speaker 4: Rasp Barack is what I'm talking about. He ran against
Speaker 4: Corey Booker Back of the Day.
Speaker 2: He lost.
Speaker 4: Corey Booking more mainstream. Corey Booker is Corey book is good.
Speaker 2: He like Top.
Speaker 5: Good, Top forty and Homeboy is underground. That's exactly right,
Speaker 5: rasp Barock. But Corey books now, Cory book is a setting. Guys,
Speaker 5: he's gonna make it too far.
Speaker 2: Ras knew it.
Speaker 4: I'm going to rasp Baracker having a meeting and two
Speaker 4: weeks with Black Lives Matter, Me Rhapsody and Buster Rom's going.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to rasp Rock.
Speaker 2: This makes some noise. Rasp Barck. Lord Hill with the
Speaker 2: album Lauren mis Education Lauren Hill.
Speaker 4: When he has the interviews where they got the principal
Speaker 4: talking to the kids, that's Rasparo. He run a school.
Speaker 4: He is a principal.
Speaker 2: He has a school official like a referee with a whistle. Now,
Speaker 2: what is the name Tyler? Shout out to my parents
Speaker 2: you know that's your name. Qual Green is my born name.
Speaker 2: So how bad is it you going through customs? After not?
Speaker 4: It was pretty bad, you know. And my d j's
Speaker 4: name is Hussein albu Becker.
Speaker 5: Was was was was musa Ab.
Speaker 2: But your niggas chose some of the Muslim names. He
Speaker 2: was born, he was Mussolini was born Muslim. Listen.
Speaker 5: So I used to travel with a person named Musa
Speaker 5: Abdella and Ali s Sammy.
Speaker 2: It wasn't great for me going through customers. I had
Speaker 2: to learn to leave them. But I had to be
Speaker 2: like yo, you know, yeah, you wait for your man
Speaker 2: and he'd be like, nah, that's not working, I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But after not eleven, I got stopped everywhere. But you look,
Speaker 2: what's the new nigga? I'm curing, you know, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: my niggas.
Speaker 4: Niggas started wrapping American flags around their head, like.
Speaker 2: For that's that that? This is crazy? So did you
Speaker 2: have problems going through customs or no? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 2: you know I got yeah, you know, I got the
Speaker 2: random search. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I had been used to it.
Speaker 2: By that time. I traveled the world a bunch of times.
Speaker 2: I was saying like that, it's different every country we
Speaker 2: got Russia. I got stopped by the everybody gets harassed Russia.
Speaker 2: Goddamn five.
Speaker 4: I got by this.
Speaker 2: Maybe not. I was f p whoa, WHOA. Hold on,
Speaker 2: let's get into this story ahead. Break look.
Speaker 4: I pulled up to the airport. They was like, they
Speaker 4: pulled me to the side, put me in the back room.
Speaker 4: They said, on this night, where was you? I was
Speaker 4: in cutting room studios, working on my arm quality. I
Speaker 4: was listening to Stokely Carmichaels speech Black Panther, Black Power.
Speaker 4: He was the one who showed in the era of
Speaker 4: black power.
Speaker 2: Knew this.
Speaker 4: They started talking to me about this. The reason they
Speaker 4: knew this is because when I booked my flight, I
Speaker 4: booked my flight with Jet Blue while I was listening
Speaker 4: to this speech.
Speaker 2: Are we supposed to make Are we supposed to make noise?
Speaker 2: With Jet Blue? Continue?
Speaker 4: They pulled me and they showed me a list of names,
Speaker 4: and all the names was blacked out except for my
Speaker 4: wife dj Q and my manager at the time, Corey Smith.
Speaker 2: Corey Smith, he and it's Vincent Stables. That's right. At
Speaker 2: one point, continue right, you're on.
Speaker 4: Point, they said, do you know these people had my
Speaker 4: manager and my wife's name. That's it. Everybody else was black.
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 4: I said, I know them. I said, that's my manor
Speaker 4: that's my wife. I said, why do you got the people?
Speaker 4: They said, those are the people you travel with the most.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I said, why do you
Speaker 2: stop it? They pulled me.
Speaker 4: They pulled me, they said they questions, asked me all
Speaker 4: these questions. They said, you was listening to a speech
Speaker 4: that seem violent and anti government.
Speaker 2: God. But where he was listening to the speech out.
Speaker 4: Again in the studio and cutting room, studio six seventy eight,
Speaker 4: just La the working when he was justin before, Just Blaze.
Speaker 2: When he was just when he was just my man.
Speaker 2: He's a Phillies for me.
Speaker 4: But that's when he was an intern. Just Blaze used
Speaker 4: to be up at night, late and night in the studio.
Speaker 2: Where it is, mom, I love your I love his grind.
Speaker 2: That's where. That's where I was at.
Speaker 4: And when I got to the airport. This was when
Speaker 4: jet Blue was first rememberh jet Blue was first cracking.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't funk with Jet Blue. With Jet Blue,
Speaker 2: let's make some noise for United. I'm talking it is
Speaker 2: enjoys me. Back in the days, but they still had
Speaker 2: the t W A terminal back in just that was
Speaker 2: before Miles. Nobody had Miles. Back then, you can drink
Speaker 2: in the tecond floor. It's like, yeah, this is paper,
Speaker 2: my man, he just came home. We just came homess.
Speaker 2: He smokes clear paper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is that official like this vegan like this
Speaker 4: vegan smoking?
Speaker 2: Is that like vegans? We have vegan smoke here, let's
Speaker 2: make some noise with vegan smoke. We don't know what
Speaker 2: it is. I got a vegan joke. I got a
Speaker 2: vegan joke. How do you know somebody a vegan? Don't worry.
Speaker 2: They fucking tell you vegans get the joke. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: didn't get the joke, all right, Tyler. I hate to
Speaker 2: switch the subject. I hate to ask you this, but
Speaker 2: you know what happened. We had the guard body Care
Speaker 2: on this show. That's my mentor, that's my that's my mentor.
Speaker 2: That's mention. Yeah, yeah, because you know why he didn't
Speaker 2: have a chance to defend himself. I know exactly. Let
Speaker 2: me let me what happened. I got an opinion on this.
Speaker 2: Let me let me. I got because because this is
Speaker 2: let me hear you take it. So this is this
Speaker 2: is the thing, right, care Rest is my mentor.
Speaker 4: He's Nigga from Queens.
Speaker 2: That's an extra that means extra more. And I said
Speaker 2: to him on the podcast, I always said that that
Speaker 2: means a lot.
Speaker 5: So what happened was I asked him about this question
Speaker 5: and care Rest is long winded.
Speaker 2: What I mean by long winded is he can't give
Speaker 2: cares he'll give you He'll give you a three minute answer, right.
Speaker 2: So what I wanted from care Rest was YO when
Speaker 2: I asked this question, and so when he didn't answer
Speaker 2: like that, I know the Internet, like you know, you
Speaker 2: know the Internet. So this is the reason why, because
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna shorten it. No matter how which
Speaker 2: way I ask you this, they're gonna shorten it. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, it's risk.
Speaker 5: So when I realized that Chris was going, you know,
Speaker 5: a little too far, I kind of let him answer,
Speaker 5: but I changed the subject. And the Internet is like
Speaker 5: gout off, that's one that does not care. As for
Speaker 5: I'm sure he was going to get to the point
Speaker 5: to say that that.
Speaker 2: This part and this part is wrong, but when he
Speaker 2: kept you know, prolonging. You know, I understand it. It's
Speaker 2: about like that, like you already see how we cut
Speaker 2: each other off. You know what I'm saying, because we
Speaker 2: already know we cut it up for one minute to
Speaker 2: thirty minutes and fifteen second clips. We got it already
Speaker 2: designed in our head, right, all right? So I asked,
Speaker 2: caris this question? I said, what should we do with
Speaker 2: African baan bada and the situation? Right?
Speaker 5: And Chris, you know, I don't want to say he
Speaker 5: defended them. He defended their relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is totally fine. But the Internet wanted him
Speaker 2: to say, boom, this is wrong.
Speaker 5: He's still my man. But if it's you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, And so I have to ask you pretty
Speaker 5: much the same question.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing, Okay, the language of political correctness
Speaker 4: evolves over time, and if you're not really engaged in
Speaker 4: paying attention like every second to the Internet and to
Speaker 4: the social media and what people are saying an academic
Speaker 4: language and how people are dealing with everything, for racism,
Speaker 4: the sexism, the child abuse, to everything. You may just
Speaker 4: talk and speak your mind, but because people receive a
Speaker 4: lot more information, they may not understand where you're coming
Speaker 4: from like you and me speak a certain language.
Speaker 2: Because we're from New York.
Speaker 4: You want me to speak a certain language because we
Speaker 4: hip hop, or because we minority, or because you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Care Rest is an older gentleman and
Speaker 4: he's a teacher. He's a teacher, but he comes from
Speaker 4: a different generation. He comes from an older generation with
Speaker 4: a language and the paradigm and everything that they informed
Speaker 4: by is different than now. So the way that the
Speaker 4: language that he's speaking on current topics is different is
Speaker 4: why you hear older people speaking and you may not
Speaker 4: relate to them.
Speaker 2: He'd be like, oh, she's changed since then.
Speaker 4: So not only are you dealing with somebody who's older
Speaker 4: and somebody who's not engaged with the current language.
Speaker 2: But I don't think he understood the facts neither. But
Speaker 2: you also none of us knew the fact of us.
Speaker 2: Don't listen. Listen, But now we know the accusation. Caress
Speaker 2: is from a generation that's from before the Internet. He
Speaker 2: had a beeper still, he's from before the inn. Does
Speaker 2: not have a business people that his phone.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie. I was embarrassed. I wanted I
Speaker 5: told him I was gonna buy him for you've been
Speaker 5: embarrassed on everybody's phone.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. I've been disappointed. You don't put.
Speaker 5: Cracks in school. As long as it's you're up to date.
Speaker 5: Cars Carress still had a two way two ways. I'm
Speaker 5: just playing, Cares. He knows like a joke on.
Speaker 2: Them, but ahead, But you know what it is. Here's
Speaker 2: the thing, Cares.
Speaker 4: It's clear to me, I'm gonna be one hundred percent honest.
Speaker 4: It's clear to me as as as a fan of
Speaker 4: care Rests, as someone who knows him personally, that he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Condone any of the accusations.
Speaker 4: Of course he of course he doesn't, even even with
Speaker 4: care Rests making a record like thirteen and Good because
Speaker 4: a lot of people have given him flack, A lot
Speaker 4: of flak has come back, has haunted him for this
Speaker 4: record that he did years ago that I wrote.
Speaker 2: I read his he read it.
Speaker 4: He wrote a whole op ad because of his drink
Speaker 4: Champs thing that I read. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And he said, he said a record that I did
Speaker 4: as a joke. We used to joke about rape and
Speaker 4: child abused.
Speaker 2: Back in the day. We used to use the word
Speaker 2: faggot with no remorse and no.
Speaker 4: We come from a if you older, we come from
Speaker 4: a generation where that wasn't taboo, that wasn't we wasn't enlightened,
Speaker 4: We wasn't involved evolved enough to understand what was wrong
Speaker 4: with those things, and we engaged in those things. When
Speaker 4: I was growing up, I.
Speaker 2: Used to word faggot.
Speaker 4: I called niggas punks right now, right now, like even
Speaker 4: the term man up. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like I grew up saying
Speaker 4: man up. I've told my son man up. But as
Speaker 4: a forty year old man, I made a decision to
Speaker 4: stop using that term because I realized it's sexist. I
Speaker 4: realized that in the Gates and the racist women when
Speaker 4: I say man up.
Speaker 2: But I'm still evolving.
Speaker 4: As a man. I'm still evolving as a man. And
Speaker 4: as we grow and we evolve, we do things as
Speaker 4: we're younger, you know what I'm saying. In the seventies,
Speaker 4: I watched TV shows and clips from the seventies and
Speaker 4: the eighties and early eighties where.
Speaker 2: People was getting away with shit that you put it
Speaker 2: on the internet.
Speaker 5: Now crazy, Now, you know what I watched the other
Speaker 5: day that was fucked me up.
Speaker 2: And this is real shit. Punker had no avenge of
Speaker 2: the nerds, revenge of the nerds. I remember three, he
Speaker 2: had four. Actually he had be with the other dude.
Speaker 2: So he went in there and he pulled he dressed
Speaker 2: as the other dude and he basically raped the chick.
Speaker 2: And that shit was funny. But if it comes out now,
Speaker 2: even came out now.
Speaker 7: That because he looked at the whole friends the rap pack,
Speaker 7: they was they.
Speaker 2: Want and that's like the good time the fellas. We
Speaker 2: gotta make a point because it's gonna look crazy. Got
Speaker 2: let's get to the point we're trying to make. Because
Speaker 2: make the point.
Speaker 4: The Zulu Nation and Terris One and all these people
Speaker 4: who come from a different error the way that they's
Speaker 4: I had to go.
Speaker 2: We're gonna make a point because listen, because listen, we
Speaker 2: went to we went to like a dumb area. We did.
Speaker 2: He's the smartest nigga here. We gotta make him make
Speaker 2: sense of this.
Speaker 4: Come on, nigga with yeah, I bet you.
Speaker 2: Dane is Jamaican. They got seventeen jobs. Two living languages,
Speaker 2: of course, any from London. Anything he speaks Jamaican from London,
Speaker 2: he spent.
Speaker 5: Let's make that point. Let's make the point. But we
Speaker 5: gotta make the point. You know, Listen, they're gonna fry
Speaker 5: you on the internet.
Speaker 2: You gotta tell clear.
Speaker 7: Fault.
Speaker 2: Listen. The response has to be responsible.
Speaker 4: Now, the Puerto Rican sister I referred to Rosa Clemente
Speaker 4: or DJ Cutting Candy and a bunch of people that
Speaker 4: they rock with. They fashion a response to the Zulu
Speaker 4: Nation accusations. Because let's be clear, there's still accusations. But
Speaker 4: even though the accusations, you have to take them seriously.
Speaker 2: You have to use the word victim.
Speaker 4: You have to say that these people are victims until
Speaker 4: proven otherwise, you know what I'm saying, Like, you have
Speaker 4: to take it seriously. African abouty should step down? Nation
Speaker 4: should should step up in a way that they have
Speaker 4: not stepped up before. Rosa Clemente and Cutting Candy they
Speaker 4: are they are female members of the Zulu Nation.
Speaker 2: They wrote a response that I retweeted on my account.
Speaker 4: If you google Cutting Candy, Rosa cl Mandy, Zulu Nation,
Speaker 4: you'll see they wrote the hip hop response that I
Speaker 4: co signed.
Speaker 2: A response from.
Speaker 4: Hip hop to the Alex This is what this is
Speaker 4: what hip hop is you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: they spoke about the silencing of victims. They spoke about
Speaker 4: how hard it is for victims of sexual abuse to
Speaker 4: speak up, and how it's taboo and how you ostracize
Speaker 4: if you're a victim of sexual abuse, and they spoke
Speaker 4: about all that, but they also spoke about how about it,
Speaker 4: how important he is to the coach.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying like, we can't with.
Speaker 4: Africa, Body and the Zulu nation, and we can separate
Speaker 4: if Africa.
Speaker 2: Has done done these things, and the evidence is pretty
Speaker 2: fucking strong, it's pretty strong. But if he's done these things,
Speaker 2: we can rememorate that from the Zulu nation trying to
Speaker 2: marriage it with the culture. Yea, Africa.
Speaker 4: This is somebody who as a as a somebody who
Speaker 4: loves hip hop.
Speaker 2: I've revered, I've looked up to. There's a cultural warship
Speaker 2: celebrity worship and around him.
Speaker 4: And people who worship him and people who because their
Speaker 4: introduction to hip hop and their relationship with hip hop
Speaker 4: is through Africa and Body.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We have to stay away
Speaker 2: from celebrity worship. He's just a man. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. We have to acknowledge what he gave to
Speaker 2: the culture.
Speaker 4: But if these accusations and allegations are true and the
Speaker 4: evidence present itself that is true, we got to deal
Speaker 4: with it and we have to we have to take
Speaker 4: it seriously and we have to be responsible because we
Speaker 4: we as we come from a community of poor people.
Speaker 4: This this abuse and this type of stuff, whether he
Speaker 4: did it or not, it happens to poor people and
Speaker 4: it doesn't get reported, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: it's like we have to make sure that we step
Speaker 4: up and be responsible for you know, even fuck the
Speaker 4: court of law, how we deal with its culture.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 5: You know what I want to I want you to
Speaker 5: elaborate on is when you said they think he needs
Speaker 5: to step down, because a lot of people in the community.
Speaker 2: I think he did step out. Uh.
Speaker 5: The brother Muhammad, which was like lifelong security guard, had
Speaker 5: just said the same thing. So I just wanted you
Speaker 5: to elaborate on for the people who don't know, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4: Because well, because there's so much speculation and so much
Speaker 4: un answered questions that you're tainting the legacy of Zulu
Speaker 4: nation by not either speaking up about it or stepping
Speaker 4: down like I feel like.
Speaker 2: And I can't speak on that.
Speaker 4: Man because I'm not that man, but I feel like
Speaker 4: it was if it was me, even the possibility to accusation,
Speaker 4: whether I did it or not, I would want to
Speaker 4: disassociate myself from hip hop, from Zulu Nation and deal
Speaker 4: with it my own and stepped down unless.
Speaker 2: You know what the effect that it's having on yet.
Speaker 4: And that's just me. You know, I can't speak for
Speaker 4: that man at all. You know what I'm saying, have
Speaker 4: you right? Do I need another Drenk drink?
Speaker 2: Make some noise for that? But I don't know if
Speaker 2: people will kill me for making noise.
Speaker 5: But listen, you know, thank you, you know, to live
Speaker 5: because you know why Chris again, who was my mentor,
Speaker 5: I knew he kind of didn't understand that he got away.
Speaker 4: We got away from that. Yeah, christ is Chris. Chris
Speaker 4: is somebody I think I think I'm paying attention to
Speaker 4: what he said on your show. I think it was
Speaker 4: clear and I paid attention to his op edd and
Speaker 4: I gotta say this and this, listen, let me, let
Speaker 4: me Chris is a friend of mine. We have records together.
Speaker 4: This is my mentor, this is my favorite m This
Speaker 4: is somebody.
Speaker 2: Who I've learned you because I heard y'all together the
Speaker 2: night before. I did a show with him the night before.
Speaker 4: And honestly, I gotta say this, I wish he wanted
Speaker 4: and wrote that op ed or I wish he would
Speaker 4: have wrote it in a different fashion, because I don't
Speaker 4: feel like he cleared anything up with the op end
Speaker 4: right exactly. I don't feel like the op ed helped him,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I feel like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like he clarified his position. You know,
Speaker 4: I think, as somebody who loves hip hop and somebody
Speaker 4: who understands the impact of what Africa about It has
Speaker 4: done for hip hop, I think that his vision was
Speaker 4: a little clouded when he wrote the op ed, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I think that he was
Speaker 4: coming from a place of nostalgia and a place of
Speaker 4: maybe possibly emotion. And because I think that, you know,
Speaker 4: the whole like conspiracy theory thing, like the whole thing
Speaker 4: like we shouldn't even be speaking, we shouldn't even be
Speaker 4: speaking on that, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 2: The Chase many it's.
Speaker 4: This or that, and I think I think that as
Speaker 4: as people who love music and people want you have everything,
Speaker 4: have context. Karass is somebody who hip hop saved his life.
Speaker 4: This is somebody who was homeless and rose to be
Speaker 4: one of the greatest poets and musicians of all time.
Speaker 4: Fuck a genre, fucking music. Cars is one of the
Speaker 4: greatest of all time. And I think, yeah, and I
Speaker 4: think that we're not You're not going to understand his
Speaker 4: position on it unless you understand hip hop.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: He wrote that odd he had just come off that
Speaker 7: long ass cruise, which is another We.
Speaker 2: Explained that on the show. It was like crazy because
Speaker 2: you know, I love Harris, that's my hero. Like, let
Speaker 2: me just say that it was that swarm was excellent.
Speaker 5: But you know, there's certain people that want to focus
Speaker 5: on that, and you know what, they have the right
Speaker 5: to because we're all public figures.
Speaker 2: People can just like this interview.
Speaker 5: We got some dope ship, and we're gonna go into
Speaker 5: some dope ship, but people get take and pick which
Speaker 5: they want.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what's out of pocket that's wrong.
Speaker 2: It's fantastic, don't worry about it'd be great.
Speaker 9: I love.
Speaker 4: I can't wait what it is, because you know I'm
Speaker 4: Iron claud I'm able to defend my positions every.
Speaker 2: I love that, I like Iron Cloud, Iron glad Clad.
Speaker 2: What does that mean? That means hardcore? Like that Iron.
Speaker 5: Cloud that you And I'm gonna say what that means? Yeah,
Speaker 5: what that means some Now Listen, you said it earlier Washington,
Speaker 5: this Whist Park.
Speaker 2: You said it very like nonchalantly. That's where you met
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle. At No I met Dave Chapelle was working
Speaker 2: at the Q Books. You had a lot of jobs.
Speaker 4: I was a Jamaican, yeah, and I was dating a
Speaker 4: girl who shall remain nameless, and she had just broken
Speaker 4: up with Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, hold on, that's all. That's all.
Speaker 4: And she used to talk about him and I used
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 2: Like, but I was a hater on.
Speaker 4: The only only ship that Dave Chappelle ha did at
Speaker 4: this time was Nutty Professor.
Speaker 2: He was Reggie.
Speaker 4: On the Braids and I used to be like the
Speaker 4: nigga Reggie and did the nigga, then the piano nigga.
Speaker 4: He was funny, the nigga and the piano, the piano
Speaker 4: nigga him.
Speaker 2: He was hating on the piano nigga in the p M.
Speaker 5: Not Buddy Love, now Buddy Love the piano nigga.
Speaker 2: He got one scene she said yes.
Speaker 4: I said, look she broke up with me and went
Speaker 4: I think she went back with the nigga after that.
Speaker 2: Just keep it going, keep it going.
Speaker 5: Couple of ye a couple of years later earlier, I
Speaker 5: remain nameless.
Speaker 2: Definitely, he knows who I am.
Speaker 4: A couple of years later, uh Cory Smith used to
Speaker 4: manage Daily Song. Okay, Dave Chappelle lived in Yellow Springs.
Speaker 4: He grew up Yellow Springs, Ohio. UH Day also had
Speaker 4: a show near there. I went to the show. I
Speaker 4: was working with Hot Tech and Cincinnati, so yeah, I
Speaker 4: rode up to the show. Dave Chappelle was at the
Speaker 4: day La Soul show and and I saw him. I said,
Speaker 4: you and me used to deal with the same chick.
Speaker 4: By this time he had did have big though he
Speaker 4: had did have was it out? By this time it
Speaker 4: was out and it was a cold classic. But so
Speaker 4: this time, like Dave Chappelle, I fuck with you. You
Speaker 4: with the same chick, but I fox with you. And
Speaker 4: he said really, And I told him the story.
Speaker 2: I seem in the hallway and all that, but he
Speaker 2: didn't know who I was. He was like okay, and
Speaker 2: then we was cool.
Speaker 4: Then a couple of years later, I was in an Electric
Speaker 4: Lady working on the album of high.
Speaker 2: Tech Electric Lady on a street.
Speaker 5: Of course, I know, you know this is crazy. I've
Speaker 5: just seen a z do a documentary and he's speaking
Speaker 5: about Electric Lady because you guys were trying to get
Speaker 5: Jimmy Hendrix.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I was working an Electric Lady, I was
Speaker 4: on the top floor. Common was on the second floor.
Speaker 4: We're going to like, what if a chop for j.
Speaker 5: Well, you remember that white cat. I used to want
Speaker 5: to shoot that white cat. We had a white cat
Speaker 5: an Electric Lady. I remember the White chicks, Mary no
Speaker 5: a cat.
Speaker 2: They had a cat. You know, you come Ondler, you
Speaker 2: know what the I'm talking about. They had a white cat.
Speaker 2: The cat used to just look at me like, yo,
Speaker 2: I'm a I have a gun on me. I'm still I'm.
Speaker 5: Still like I was gonna kill that Cat's.
Speaker 2: Right, it's a white cat. And they still always say
Speaker 2: that's Jimmy Hendricks said cat. Personal. You guys are crazy. Listen, first,
Speaker 2: this is Jimmy this is Jimmy Hendrick studio to Jimmy
Speaker 2: Hendricks was in the cat. So they said the spirit
Speaker 2: of Jimmy Ricks was in this cat. I used to
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom and you know, you can't ask
Speaker 2: to go with mad homies.
Speaker 8: You can't add the homies want me to the bathroom
Speaker 8: to look at you like the cat's next? What the
Speaker 8: fuck that cat? This cat was in?
Speaker 4: This was in the studio when in the studio Reflection
Speaker 4: eternal train of thought, He's in every studio was like
Speaker 4: whatever chocolate di'angelo was downstairs in the base more kid,
Speaker 4: you know this at the same time.
Speaker 2: And this is they say that Jimmy Hendrix. They say
Speaker 2: that you know that Jimmy Hendy had owned the studio owned.
Speaker 2: I swear to god, I never told this story.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I thought about that cat years and you know this
Speaker 2: is why I know the.
Speaker 5: Cat is special. I'm allergic to cats. I never broke
Speaker 5: out when I went to the studio.
Speaker 2: I did bad from TV. There was recorded an electric lady,
Speaker 2: so I forgot the point you was making. But you
Speaker 2: was an electric lady. Electric lady.
Speaker 4: So if you listen to Reflection album, We're here drops right.
Speaker 2: There was this girl that I knew that was dating
Speaker 2: Lennox Lewis at the time. We're still on the Chapelle, right,
Speaker 2: she brought Lennix Lewis the studio. So if you listen
Speaker 2: to Reflection, he was dating Lennix Lewis. Girl again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what kind of bigga are you? Tyler? I thought that
Speaker 2: was what she brought Lennox Lewis. That's your home girl,
Speaker 2: the whole girl, now my girl. He said it like,
Speaker 2: that's my girl. But I think he's the right way
Speaker 2: to guess, right, I don't know they got on. I
Speaker 2: can't tell you got the sidew We said it was
Speaker 2: very real. He's very.
Speaker 4: Now you listened to Reflection A Lennx Lewis, all right,
Speaker 4: he has one, two, three four Reflection Turner.
Speaker 2: Gil Scott Heron is on a Reflection Turnal album. He
Speaker 2: came to this problem. He came to studio Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 4: I'm walking on the street on a street going to
Speaker 4: like grat Grace for Pie.
Speaker 2: That's the hot dog spot for those that don't know.
Speaker 4: I see Dave Chappelle, I said, remember me from the
Speaker 4: Daylight Show. He said, yeah, I saw him working on
Speaker 4: the album. He came to the studio.
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle came every day after that day.
Speaker 4: So when you hear Rick James and Nelson Mandela opening
Speaker 4: the reflection, that's Dave Chappelle doing all that, I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's Dave Chapelle.
Speaker 2: I did not know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he came through and every day when we we
Speaker 4: High Tech did that album, Dave Chappelle was in the
Speaker 4: studio every day for that album. But this is this
Speaker 4: was right when Half Half Been, after Half Baked, this
Speaker 4: after happens.
Speaker 2: You know he is crack it. We don't know he's that, right,
Speaker 2: But this was before this was no Chappelle show, right right, right,
Speaker 2: So then how did that happen? Autumn years later he
Speaker 2: starts in Chappelle sho because you guys were performing for him,
Speaker 2: like even before his show blew Up, seemed like a family.
Speaker 4: Now he was in the studio for all that. He
Speaker 4: was an electric lady around all that time. And so
Speaker 4: he got the show and shout out to Corey Smith
Speaker 4: once again. Him and Corey had a good had a
Speaker 4: good relationship. He got to deal with Comedy Central. He said,
Speaker 4: I want to do the show, Chappelle Show, but one
Speaker 4: of his visions was I want to have the musicians
Speaker 4: that I fucked.
Speaker 2: With and then you'll perform in the kitchens. One time
Speaker 2: that was that was.
Speaker 4: Common and Kanye Okay, so he had I did. I
Speaker 4: didn't get by, you know what I'm saying, Like he
Speaker 4: had Big Boy, he had, he had d m X, whatever.
Speaker 5: He get two words to you performed that there.
Speaker 4: Whatever David listened to at the time, That's what he
Speaker 4: had on his show, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: he was in the hip hop and then when he
Speaker 4: did Block Party and Block Party was it was. It
Speaker 4: was the best start hill. Yeah, Dave paid for that.
Speaker 4: He paid for that. We filmed it and then he
Speaker 4: sold it to the movie company.
Speaker 2: So he didn't know if he was going to be No,
Speaker 2: he didn't.
Speaker 4: We just we just did it.
Speaker 2: He just and I got I made royal.
Speaker 4: He's off of that. You know, for years, I can't
Speaker 4: remember my last royalty check, but for years I made
Speaker 4: money for.
Speaker 2: Black part So it was revolutionary.
Speaker 4: So it's like, Okay, as a black man, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do my own ship. I'm gonna own it, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: put it out.
Speaker 2: So the nigga girl, you was fucking kept it real
Speaker 2: with you. High five.
Speaker 1: Come on, I don't know it worked.
Speaker 2: Out for her that awful. It's off.
Speaker 4: I'm regret I'm regretting.
Speaker 2: So now let me ask you this.
Speaker 5: You meet Dave, he's a regular guy, you're a regular guy.
Speaker 5: You guys both become stars. He makes you a part
Speaker 5: of the show. Then all of a sudden he quits.
Speaker 5: Do you did you ever call him about that?
Speaker 2: Or yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: I was hanging out with David around a lot of
Speaker 4: that time and all.
Speaker 2: The time that he quit. Yeah, you know, he you know,
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 4: In a situation where he felt compromised. He felt like
Speaker 4: the money that he took and the money they accepted
Speaker 4: made him they was taking advantage of.
Speaker 2: Him in like a cornery way.
Speaker 4: This heard, you know, like like a lot of the skids.
Speaker 4: They a lot of skids. Everybody loved Dave.
Speaker 2: Chappelle, but not everybody understood Dave Chappelle. Like and I'm
Speaker 2: hearing this is this is rumor that I heard.
Speaker 5: I'm hearing that it was from black folks like like Oprah.
Speaker 2: And maybe I don't mean.
Speaker 4: I can't speaking with that man, but but from what
Speaker 4: I observed observed, Yeah, you know, I think that his comedy,
Speaker 4: Dave Chappelle comedy like the best comedy, was very intellectual, right.
Speaker 2: Like people didn't understand the nuance of Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 4: Come from educated people. You know, he comes from black academia.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like he come from heavy
Speaker 4: ideas and intellectualism. But it's broken down in a comedy way.
Speaker 4: And a lot of people got the funniness of it
Speaker 4: but didn't get the point.
Speaker 2: And I think, like starting I heard like Prince's Princess,
Speaker 2: but even even on some like press heard you got
Speaker 2: a prince story, I got several Prince God damn, come on,
Speaker 2: hold on, get the horn, all right, hold on, we
Speaker 2: gotta set we gotta set this up, all right, so
Speaker 2: hold on, time out quality from just switch it up.
Speaker 2: We always sit up. Horrible, man, this is horrible. But look,
Speaker 2: this is this is my I'm not cutting off. I'm
Speaker 2: actually I haven't cut them off yet. You just now
Speaker 2: see I sweat because you know you from Brooklyn. Yes,
Speaker 2: you had flat push all day. You had fifteen hundred
Speaker 2: jobs before you were sixteen fifteen hundred job choose one
Speaker 2: you become an EMC prince. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: If you're a killer, I don't give a fuck. If
Speaker 2: you're a backpack, I don't fuck if you always Princess
Speaker 2: God to all of us. As far as making music
Speaker 2: and art, music, creative coaches, finest broads, yep, and your
Speaker 2: first time meeting press when you first described shout out
Speaker 2: to dj Q, my dj Q, I like, I like
Speaker 2: how you pick up your wife? God, damn it. High five?
Speaker 2: That's real, high five, real ship. Let's make some noise
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 3: L A.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, she did a stretch arm armstrong. She was
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 4: Yep, she's she's a world class famous DJ, and Prince
Speaker 4: got to liken her DJ skills.
Speaker 2: She became a d a.
Speaker 5: Wife work with Prince. This is not starting out there.
Speaker 5: This is not starting out good. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I'm a jealous God, Prince, you listen, Prince, you got
Speaker 2: to get the fuck away. My wife is not doing
Speaker 2: your ma I'm sorry, he's not doing your makeup. Hold up, Prince,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. No, she was DJ and his parties. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And by this time when I met Prince, the first
Speaker 4: time I met Prince was maybe House of Blues.
Speaker 2: L A. She was DJ and that you know he
Speaker 2: did he float.
Speaker 4: Now, he didn't levitate the float.
Speaker 2: He didn't levitated a segar. He had a segway back then.
Speaker 4: Prince Prince knew his hip hop when I first met him,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like he knew, but he
Speaker 4: knew certain type.
Speaker 2: Of hip he knew like Common.
Speaker 4: He like like Common and well I Am And it.
Speaker 2: Was like he likes certain things into something.
Speaker 4: He like hip hop, but he like hip hop that
Speaker 4: was a little bit more like organic what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like he like like Lauren Hill and you know, like
Speaker 4: Colm and like he really liked Common a lot, Like he's.
Speaker 2: A Common fan, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And you know and and and Common is one of
Speaker 4: my favorite all. I don't know if Common Common might
Speaker 4: have worked with Prince. He liked Rikaba do a lot.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like Prince I met Centric ship, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I guess yeah. So when I met him, he said
Speaker 4: I like that. He said, like I like that one
Speaker 4: song you got hot Thing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I have sold will I Am hot Thing was on
Speaker 4: the hook and he like he liked will I Am
Speaker 4: Black Peas and all that type of ship. I started
Speaker 4: just hanging out doing parties.
Speaker 2: You know my wife.
Speaker 4: My wife would do parties.
Speaker 2: Prince would show up at the parties. He was just
Speaker 2: short hold on, how does this happen? Does Prince the
Speaker 2: smoke come in when he really walks in, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm making no, no, walk in the party. He walking
Speaker 2: the party.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I went to a party once in l A. What's
Speaker 2: that club that's across the street from the Beverly Center.
Speaker 2: The club this course, that's the name of it.
Speaker 4: Prince walked in. The club ended and Prince kept a
Speaker 4: bunch of us in the club and at gunpoint, not
Speaker 4: a gun point, but he's Prince.
Speaker 2: He gave to look almost point, and everybody stayed.
Speaker 4: He pulled out a little Bible.
Speaker 2: Wait, Prince, bring a bible. He's Jehovah's witness. Yeah, wait,
Speaker 2: and Jehovahs witness. They get down like that. He started
Speaker 2: having Bible studies. Don't drink. Three in the morning. Was
Speaker 2: niggas drinking?
Speaker 4: There was no niggas there. It was the only women
Speaker 4: and me because my wife was DJ, so I was
Speaker 4: the only nigga. And there was one other dude who
Speaker 4: was a boyfriend of one of the other girls. So
Speaker 4: it's Prince and me and this other dude.
Speaker 2: Don't pass it. This is other niggas passing it back
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 4: I got you and this other dude, Princes, Princes, he's
Speaker 4: caught in the Bible, and this other dude tried to
Speaker 4: say something smart.
Speaker 2: And now the other dude is he's not with Prince. No, okay,
Speaker 2: he just happened to be there.
Speaker 4: He tried to say something, and Prince, I'll never forget this,
Speaker 4: Prince said, Listen, I know you think that you're saying
Speaker 4: something to add on to the conversation, but you really
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. From what you're saying, I
Speaker 4: can tell you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: So how about you just not participating in Prince about
Speaker 2: the whipping nigger ass? But I'm asking you he was,
Speaker 2: He politely told him, you don't know the fuck you
Speaker 2: talking to. Did Prince have on hills?
Speaker 4: No? He did not.
Speaker 2: He did not. I've been I've been in several clubs, Prince,
Speaker 2: keep just keep going home dispriends stories. I went to
Speaker 2: the club. Remember do you remember the Zeni.
Speaker 7: La.
Speaker 2: They used to have the party called Zeni They used
Speaker 2: to happen.
Speaker 4: I have beg Zeni before at two o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 4: the clubs in LA clothes. And then this dude used
Speaker 4: to have this party called Zeni. We rented a warehouse.
Speaker 4: He used to rend the Muppet studios Jim Henson right,
Speaker 4: and he.
Speaker 2: To know these type of people I live come and
Speaker 2: party with. I'm bad.
Speaker 4: I know, yeah, big big bird, Ernie and Bart and
Speaker 4: Burt and Ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But he's got these parties.
Speaker 2: But they used to bring the alcohol. And he used
Speaker 2: to set up stages and.
Speaker 4: Have go go dances, and all the celebrities used to go,
Speaker 4: and all the basketball players and what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying like that's like it was. He's definitely I live
Speaker 2: in l A. Prince called my wife and he said
Speaker 2: where the party at and we said, we have Zeny.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm coming, and this nigga just rolled up
Speaker 2: and I told I had the privilege to tell him
Speaker 2: to promote. I said, listen, I'm bringing Prince. I got
Speaker 2: a Justin Beaver story.
Speaker 4: When you finish, I'm bringing Prince.
Speaker 2: The hell is just a Beaver and Prince going together?
Speaker 2: Because Justin Bieber said that what Prince hain't the only
Speaker 2: nigga around it. Remember this, No I did. I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Get into that, get into that. This great fans hate
Speaker 2: when to be cut us off.
Speaker 3: They like.
Speaker 4: Prince came in the club right the girl was dancing,
Speaker 4: and he said, this party is great, but why is
Speaker 4: she up there dancing with no clothes on?
Speaker 2: She was, she had clothes on, she things covered, But he.
Speaker 4: Said, why she just don't need to be done, you know,
Speaker 4: because this is Jehovah, Jehovah's witness, Prince.
Speaker 2: This is not the last dragon Prince, because it is
Speaker 2: not like Prince Buck while back in the days in
Speaker 2: the eighties, he was out of control.
Speaker 4: So I said, listen. He asked me to introduce him
Speaker 4: to the party promoter. I introduced him, and he said
Speaker 4: he explained to me. He said, listen, these girls that
Speaker 4: they bring business people buy drinks. Prince, let me talk
Speaker 4: to her.
Speaker 2: To convert it.
Speaker 4: Let me talk to her. I need to, I'm saying
Speaker 4: the girl. He talked to the girl. The girl didn't
Speaker 4: know who Prince was. Young chick, young chicken dancing the club.
Speaker 4: She might have heard the name Prince, but.
Speaker 2: She didn't know She's gonna die at night. This is
Speaker 2: a long time ago, the old story. Bite she turned.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 4: He said, how much are they paying you to be
Speaker 4: in to dance with your clothes off?
Speaker 2: She said the number.
Speaker 4: He said, I'll pay you double to get down off
Speaker 4: that stage.
Speaker 2: Go home. Let's make some noise of a Prince being
Speaker 2: a trick? Was that reverse pimp that's reverse put your
Speaker 2: clothes on? Prince invented reverse pimping.
Speaker 4: She said, I'll take you money tonight, but what am
Speaker 4: I going to do tomorrow night. That's what this girl
Speaker 4: said to Prince. I wonder his response.
Speaker 2: What was his responds? He said, I don't have no
Speaker 2: control over that.
Speaker 10: That's I got you to my your mother fucker. I'm
Speaker 10: not going to call him verbatim he was besides that
Speaker 10: one line.
Speaker 4: Besides that one, he did say that NETI, But beyond that,
Speaker 4: he basically explained to her. He was like, listen, I'm
Speaker 4: giving you an opportunity to make a different decision in
Speaker 4: your life. I'm saying, I watch him explain to this
Speaker 4: girl and talk to the girl, and I knew from
Speaker 4: the way that she was talking to him that she
Speaker 4: didn't understand the legacy. She didn't understand she was just like, Okay,
Speaker 4: Grin has had.
Speaker 5: An album covered with like three bitches Buttnecker on top
Speaker 5: of him.
Speaker 2: Maybe some dudes, and everybody thought he was gay. He
Speaker 2: wasn't ready for your princess. God. He stuck to his
Speaker 2: guns and he understood every artist.
Speaker 4: And me and Nori the fact that we even hed
Speaker 4: here doing drink champs smoking, we.
Speaker 2: Talking about what we understand. That every artist got contradictions.
Speaker 2: Nature of being an artist, there's one to be true.
Speaker 4: The person that we revere is the most contradictory artist ever,
Speaker 4: but we were. That's part of being human, like you said,
Speaker 4: being because all human beings got contradictions.
Speaker 2: Artists are.
Speaker 4: Contradictions is amplified because people pay more attention, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But everybody got contradictions. Artists, We just
Speaker 4: we create out of our contradiction, right.
Speaker 5: But Prince, I feel like it was like Jesus man,
Speaker 5: listen me tell you something I've never like, Billy d
Speaker 5: Williams transcended for me. Like what I mean by that
Speaker 5: is like Billy D Williams, Eddie Murphy, Prince and Michael
Speaker 5: Jackson was people who were like, you know, I grew
Speaker 5: up in a different, you know, a different time like
Speaker 5: that he do Billy D Williamson, that's a hood nigga,
Speaker 5: you know, with Michael Jackson and.
Speaker 2: Prince and then they said Billy D.
Speaker 11: Those were certain people. Know, those were certain people. I
Speaker 11: still go Rizzy in his secondary. That's a smooth Dyn
Speaker 11: in my taste now.
Speaker 2: But you know, for those, those those four individuals right there,
Speaker 2: those are the people who transcended life for me. There
Speaker 2: are the people that no, no, no, no, give it
Speaker 2: over here. That's right, I'm sorry, let's keep it over here.
Speaker 2: So those are the people that transition in their life.
Speaker 4: For me.
Speaker 5: What I mean by that, it's like, you know, as
Speaker 5: a black person growing up young in my life, I
Speaker 5: can't describe anybody else here or anybody in my life.
Speaker 5: It was like, those are the people that said you
Speaker 5: can't do this, you can't do that, and they did it.
Speaker 5: And I was just like I always looked at them
Speaker 5: and it was like, I ain't got to be like them,
Speaker 5: but I respect that, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: that's why when I met with people like Pharrell, it
Speaker 5: was easy for me to say I don't understand you,
Speaker 5: and I don't really I don't really get.
Speaker 2: Where you're going at, but your music is fucking big.
Speaker 2: How did you meet Sorell? That's how I met Morel
Speaker 2: almost well, how I met Forrell. We was in sound
Speaker 2: on sound studios. Everybody used to say everybody used to
Speaker 2: think biggies used to be called at daddy's house. Something
Speaker 2: happened at daddy's house.
Speaker 5: I don't remember, but big, but Big used to come
Speaker 5: to sound on sound studios and he used to have
Speaker 5: upstairs or I used to have downstairs, and I.
Speaker 2: Used to see Biggie after the worried port. I shoed
Speaker 2: to see Biggie like almost every day I'm working on
Speaker 2: in our and uh a friend of mine's uh he
Speaker 2: was my manager at the time. I believe Martin Moore
Speaker 2: to say, Marre y okay, because that's part of we're
Speaker 2: gonna get to that. When I was fourteen, people don't
Speaker 2: realize the skits on the.
Speaker 5: So he discovered me. He his god have got me signed.
Speaker 5: But Martin Maure said to me, he said, yo, these
Speaker 5: dudes they up here, they trying to work with puff
Speaker 5: and so I was like, all right, cool, like I
Speaker 5: had to.
Speaker 2: I had that, you know what he says niggas on them.
Speaker 2: The whole album was done. So he comes like trilogy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: So he comes to sound on Sound and he goes
Speaker 5: and I just I just remember I met some dude
Speaker 5: in Canada just now reminded me of for real.
Speaker 2: He was trying to be for real, but he reminded
Speaker 2: me for real because it's in an attitude, not not
Speaker 2: that to that he was trying to show me, but
Speaker 2: his inner attitude. But Caro actually came up to me
Speaker 2: and said, yo, nobody never listens to me. I was like,
Speaker 2: that was awkward, Like that was his first sentence, like,
Speaker 2: nobody nis listened to me. The person that does is
Speaker 2: going to go through the roof.
Speaker 5: And I'm walking, I'm hot, but I'm like something something
Speaker 5: in my body said shut up and listen to this guy.
Speaker 2: So I listened and he goes the first person that
Speaker 2: listens to.
Speaker 5: Me I've worked with other people and then so and
Speaker 5: then he started quoting Bloody Money to me, and I
Speaker 5: was like damn. I was like, all right, cool. You
Speaker 5: know I'm looking at him. He don't look like a
Speaker 5: Bloody Money type of guy. He's not supposed to be
Speaker 5: knowing that song off the album.
Speaker 2: And he gets me. I should at that album War Report,
Speaker 2: that basement. I was just telling you about. That's what
Speaker 2: I used to listen to, Copona Noriega, The War Report. Tyler,
Speaker 2: how old are you? Like nine hundred years?
Speaker 4: I'm forty this year and especially and then joining to forty.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what forty one feel like.
Speaker 2: This is incredible about forty one. Yeah, fish, get your five.
Speaker 2: But he wasn't really what you like. I started thinking
Speaker 2: about keep my grades. You look whatever it is. So yeah,
Speaker 2: let me just ask you're gonna get men's men's club. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let me tell you some weird ship that happened. I'm
Speaker 2: with you real talk. I would like to hear it.
Speaker 2: I was with my girl, went to the pick up
Speaker 2: your girl. We took her. Let's make some girl.
Speaker 9: We took her grandma to the casino for mother. Grandma
Speaker 9: her grandma. Okay, god, because you know, to play the joints.
Speaker 9: So I go to the bathroom and some dude, I
Speaker 9: think I think he's Jamaica.
Speaker 2: We're draining that. I think he's Jamaican. Did you know
Speaker 2: he had an accent? I couldn't place the accident. It
Speaker 2: was somebody that could have been in Canada. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm there, I'm washing my hands, and the dude in
Speaker 7: and he just looks at me and he said, you're
Speaker 7: not gonna die your beer.
Speaker 2: That's his first that's what when you're at the urine. No, no,
Speaker 2: I would And I said, uh no, I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I don't like to die.
Speaker 7: I don't like none of that ship. He's like really
Speaker 7: but man like pencil like he's thinking.
Speaker 4: Because he was thinking about dying his ship.
Speaker 7: And he's older than me. I could tell he's older
Speaker 7: than me. So I'm like, all right, cool, is that it?
Speaker 7: Because I'm out of here, bro? And then he's like,
Speaker 7: looks good man.
Speaker 4: I was like, you saved his life that night. You
Speaker 4: gave him confidence. I don't know what happened, let him
Speaker 4: let his die just fade out, gave him confidence.
Speaker 2: He looked at me, crazy man. That's my story. So
Speaker 2: when's the last time you spoke to y'all? Bay? I
Speaker 2: know that, Yeah, yeah, yeah. About about a month ago,
Speaker 2: I went out of South Africa. Wait, hold on time,
Speaker 2: let's make some noise flows on us one more time.
Speaker 2: I went out to see y'all.
Speaker 4: Seeing you, I went out there and hang out with him,
Speaker 4: mister Ferrari Shepherd.
Speaker 2: And you know, yah, see bay Is you know, he's
Speaker 2: a he's a beautiful dude. Like this dude is like
Speaker 2: you know, he's like, you know, he's Muslim and a
Speaker 2: lot of his a lot.
Speaker 4: Of his music in his stance has to do with
Speaker 4: incorporating Islam, trying to figure out that living.
Speaker 2: As a as a Muslim but living in come back
Speaker 2: to America.
Speaker 4: I can't speak on this situation at this particular time,
Speaker 4: but I know that he he hasn't wanted to be
Speaker 4: in America.
Speaker 2: For a long time. He doesn't want to come out here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, regardless of his particular political situation in South Africa.
Speaker 2: You know, as you notice and be here in a minute,
Speaker 2: he cats still travel to London and okay, yeah, and
Speaker 2: I think that he I'm appalled, you know.
Speaker 4: He he is somebody who exists completely and totally outside
Speaker 4: of the music business. He exists as an artist like
Speaker 4: funk the business. He exists as an artist, as a creative.
Speaker 2: Spirit like this is this is real? Like this is real?
Speaker 2: Like I'm not Muslim.
Speaker 4: I want to tell you, I don't you know, I
Speaker 4: respect Islam, I respect I respect people anybody who search
Speaker 4: for truth.
Speaker 2: So what would you claim if somebody would ask you what?
Speaker 2: I'm just me?
Speaker 4: You know, I recognize the God and all like that.
Speaker 4: If you recognize the God in yourself, I recognize the
Speaker 4: God in you.
Speaker 2: So everything, every religion, and I'm every gang too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's how you gotta bee. Whoever I'm hanging with.
Speaker 2: I'm a vice lord. If you understand, you understands the
Speaker 2: theory to one. He's every game, everything everything, you know everything.
Speaker 4: But but this is how this, how this is y'all
Speaker 4: seen by Like I'm out there and and and he's
Speaker 4: I'm talking to him and he's quoting verses from the Quran.
Speaker 2: And in South Africa that just stay in hunts. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: South Africa is mad develops. South Africa is the most
Speaker 2: developed countries. Is a w out there. There's no w
Speaker 2: W building. There's some nice hotels and some nice spots
Speaker 2: that I'm.
Speaker 5: Got the Western they got a whole different system all.
Speaker 2: Can you name me one hotel otherwise South Africa change
Speaker 2: change the chain hotels. You can go to a Sheraton, Sheritan.
Speaker 2: I canuck with THET Star Wars that's what you can.
Speaker 2: You could get a Star Wars four points Sheridan, that's
Speaker 2: a difference. That's a difference. I don't want to point,
Speaker 2: but but all points running.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put you onto the to the boutique hotels,
Speaker 4: into the official spots outside of the SPH.
Speaker 2: You're very You're very rich. I can tell by the
Speaker 2: way you just just put can somebody, I'm not rich.
Speaker 2: I'm not no, no, no, I'm a working classroom C.
Speaker 2: Who figured out I cracked the cold. I've seen Jay damaging.
Speaker 2: That's no.
Speaker 4: You know what's funny about you saying that when I
Speaker 4: when I say I'm a working classroom c.
Speaker 2: The image that I put j damage. Listen, let me
Speaker 2: tell you something. I seen jaw the damage that I
Speaker 2: knew he was gonna get drunk. He's my man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he gets bent. You know that.
Speaker 11: I know.
Speaker 2: The same block you know. I said, Jabe, where you
Speaker 2: been at? A nigga said, man, I just stay in Europe.
Speaker 5: I get this money. He pulled out a passport that
Speaker 5: looked like a phone book. My nigga, let me explain.
Speaker 5: Let me let me this nigga, jarew the damage to
Speaker 5: live in Berlin.
Speaker 2: Listen. I went to Berlin, Big Berlin. My grimmy people.
Speaker 11: What specta you go to you see a post, You
Speaker 11: see posts everywhere.
Speaker 2: Nigga, that that one is terrible one. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Ja live in Berlin. I'm sorry. That was we needed
Speaker 2: a proper horn for you. Betting at Berlin was gonna
Speaker 2: let them give you a fake horn. They were getting that.
Speaker 2: He getting that fucking that fucking tear down the war money. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: that nigga passport was like this. No, j I went
Speaker 2: the first time I went to South Africa, I went
Speaker 2: with JJ. I went with j R. To Dammage. You
Speaker 2: that's it. I'll be cool. I'll be in certain countries.
Speaker 2: I'll be in like Croatia, some ship. I'm in a club.
Speaker 2: Just pull up and tapped me on the shoulder. Living
Speaker 2: Jarroal living Malmo. He live in Malmo, Sweden.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Malo Malmo is a half hour from from Copenhagen Hagen, Denmark.
Speaker 4: If you go to Malmo, Sweden, you hang out with
Speaker 4: Jay Road alcoholics. But this is a fratern a working
Speaker 4: class and cs that are all over the world. I
Speaker 4: know where all they at. I know I know where
Speaker 4: they at. I travel the world.
Speaker 2: I see them. J row Uh push your man Elder
Speaker 2: safe artifacts.
Speaker 4: That's another one. That's another one. Master Aces in Italy
Speaker 4: right now, Master Ace and Marco Polo in Italy.
Speaker 2: Right Why do like y'all revolution because I would consider
Speaker 2: you a revolution every activist hip hop type of god. Right.
Speaker 2: But like your biggest crowds is white people.
Speaker 4: Yes, that happened because white people have money and they
Speaker 4: can afford to come to the constgas, the hook niggas,
Speaker 4: the hood don't have money.
Speaker 2: They can't go to concerts. They just be in the hood.
Speaker 4: White people be like, they look in the Village Voice
Speaker 4: and they look in the in the time out in
Speaker 4: New York and they'd be like, I want to go
Speaker 4: to concert they have some extra money spent and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go to concerts.
Speaker 2: I like Tyler Carles a good job.
Speaker 4: But you know that's that's a good thing. That's a
Speaker 4: good thing because hip hop music is folk music. It
Speaker 4: don't matter if you white, black, Jubiterarian. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking Jubiterian. I'm with you. Let me get a
Speaker 2: high five Federation. Understand that sounds.
Speaker 5: Right Upguage, I'm using it, Jubiterian.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, continue hip hop.
Speaker 4: Speaking the language that people speak right now, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So hip hop the reason hip hop
Speaker 4: is united more cultures than any music and than any
Speaker 4: fun music. Hip hop is united more cultures than any
Speaker 4: force anything in the history of the planet. More white people,
Speaker 4: black people, brown people, yellow people, white people get together
Speaker 4: over hip hop music than anything, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Because hip hop speaking the language that we all speaking,
Speaker 4: it's speaking in language is going on right now.
Speaker 2: So when NOI came out like what what what what?
Speaker 2: That's what niggas was on the street saying at the time. Foul,
Speaker 2: That's what niggas saying.
Speaker 4: And whatever niggas is saying right now, whether it be
Speaker 4: Panda or whatever and whatever whatever is going on, that's
Speaker 4: what's happening.
Speaker 2: Right now, and it makes it make it to a record.
Speaker 2: Country music is like that. Folk folk music is like
Speaker 2: what was like that? But folk music is not a
Speaker 2: popular art form like it was in the seventies.
Speaker 4: But country music is like to be besides country music.
Speaker 2: And I don't fuck the country music.
Speaker 4: I'm not a country music fan, but I recognize, real
Speaker 4: recognize really you know what I'm saying that the country
Speaker 4: music is about struggle, it's about white people struggle.
Speaker 2: American storytellers. In the music. It's beautiful and it's it's
Speaker 2: similar to hip hop in that regard.
Speaker 4: But hip hop is our ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's right, hip hop is our shit. Golf brooks in
Speaker 2: them niggas. They got a struggle. Country music that's golf
Speaker 2: works this country, is it right? A horse ran away? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I mean like it's definitely their version of reality.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Music, I'm gonna tell you what.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it all, keep it all over. He change.
Speaker 4: It's music made by uneducated people. And I'm not saying
Speaker 4: uneducated as a judgment.
Speaker 2: He was about to take some of that.
Speaker 5: Dame Dash Whiskey, by the way, you people, you people
Speaker 5: out there, let people know we got Dame Dash Whiskey
Speaker 5: on the table.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we're representing for you, Dame Dash. Shout out
Speaker 2: to Dame Dash.
Speaker 4: That's my nigga.
Speaker 2: Now now I heard I heard a rumor that even
Speaker 2: but let me feel you get into that. Let me
Speaker 2: just qualify my statement before.
Speaker 4: But but I say uneducated, I'm not meaning a disc
Speaker 4: I mean people that don't receive the standard westernized traditional education.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 4: Niggas might have dropped out of high school but can
Speaker 4: still run the world. Bill Gates didn't graduate from college
Speaker 4: but still made a lot of money. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like when I say uneducated, uneducated, it's not
Speaker 4: a judgment. But there's white people in the South that
Speaker 4: didn't have the traditional education, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like even the term nigga, Like even the we're niggas
Speaker 4: political for ustyle, I'm about to.
Speaker 2: Quick, real quick quick.
Speaker 4: Even the term nigga was white people not understanding how
Speaker 4: to pronounce the Spanish negro negatro, nigga, it becomes it
Speaker 4: was niggro negative niggas the South Spain right right right,
Speaker 4: so they it became nigger over time. That's where the
Speaker 4: word nigga come from. It comes from not having a
Speaker 4: Western standardized education, you know what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 4: I say uneducated, it's not the distalbody. So okay, all right, so.
Speaker 2: Now we heard a room on that Kanye. I think
Speaker 2: Kanye's first feature was like with you, Is that correct? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I used to fuck with Kanye back in the days
Speaker 2: way before. Does that mean you don't funk with him now, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Kanye is my nigga. I'm I'm a Kanye West fan.
Speaker 2: Was the first time you met you met Kanye? The
Speaker 2: first time I met Kanye?
Speaker 4: I was king on my quality album, the album that
Speaker 4: get buys on. I was in Platinum Platinumland studios.
Speaker 2: He came through No Idea or Platinum Island Studios. A
Speaker 2: walk left used to own that.
Speaker 5: It's like before, that's Platinum Studios, that's Platinum Okay, so
Speaker 5: what studios?
Speaker 4: Platinum Island, which was Ken dureau Eiffel du du Duro
Speaker 4: used to be the head engineer at Platinum Island. Platinum
Speaker 4: Island was in the same building or across the same
Speaker 4: next door to common room was next order to roucous.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh down down right right right, thank you.
Speaker 4: I'm working at Platinum Land Studios. Uh huh, and Kanye
Speaker 4: West come through the door.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I'm doing a session from a quality album and I'm
Speaker 4: waiting a Most Death to show up because Most Death
Speaker 4: we have a song on my quality album called Joy.
Speaker 4: I'm wrapping about my kids and my kids birth and
Speaker 4: Most Deaf is on it. It took him a long
Speaker 4: time to record his verse by this time, he was
Speaker 4: doing movies. He was blowing up, so I'm trying to
Speaker 4: get a touch of it. Was hard to get in
Speaker 4: touch with him. Kanye came through the door. I never
Speaker 4: seen this nigga, never heard this nigga. He said, I'm
Speaker 4: here to meet most Death. I said, well, guess what.
Speaker 2: He might not show up. But who are you? He said,
Speaker 2: Mosteff told me to meet here? Meet him here. I
Speaker 2: got some beats, I said, play me the beats. I'm
Speaker 2: a gonna album.
Speaker 4: Kanye played me the beasts. Every beat that Kanye blame me.
Speaker 4: He played me four beasts that night. All them beats
Speaker 4: made it.
Speaker 2: To my album. Just make some noise for Kanye being
Speaker 2: a savage, I said, yo, I said, who, I said,
Speaker 2: now them beats. Kanye, you the nigga. That's that's why
Speaker 2: he got an ego, because Nigga came in. He pitched
Speaker 2: you for you from every time Kanye knew anything fucked up,
Speaker 2: were blaming. Makes some noise for Tyler.
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe how good these beats was because I
Speaker 4: had never heard of him.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, how have I never heard of you?
Speaker 4: In your beats of this quality? He told me he said,
Speaker 4: I did beat on uh d Angeletti album. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: did beats on Jermaine Dupre album fourteen seventy two.
Speaker 2: I did beats on Beanie Siegual.
Speaker 4: He told me he did the Truth and then the
Speaker 4: Reason Truth, all that, all that Beatie segull ship.
Speaker 2: But he said that. That's when I was like, play
Speaker 2: me some ship.
Speaker 4: So he did the Gorilla mans Shoe rap, the good
Speaker 4: to You to get by all that ship on the
Speaker 4: Quality album and I just was And then when I
Speaker 4: went on tour, Common was on tour doing Electric Circus.
Speaker 4: I was opening act.
Speaker 2: Kanye was like, I'm trying to get my music out there.
Speaker 2: Niggas ain't fucking with me. I said, I said, come
Speaker 2: on toward me. He came on toward me. He came
Speaker 2: out every every way. Wait, you brung Kanye, Kanye when
Speaker 2: you just made some noise to bringing Kanye on t Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's too humble to say that. I'm gonna say it
Speaker 2: for him. Listen to you ever heard the tag of
Speaker 2: bout Yes I have I know about You're not gonna
Speaker 2: take a shot from New York City.
Speaker 4: I'll take a shot.
Speaker 2: Hold on, We're gonna let you finish your story. First,
Speaker 2: we need Kanye out. He break it down. We're gonna
Speaker 2: do it. Last call, he break it down.
Speaker 4: He say, he say Tyler brought me on tour, perform
Speaker 4: on the tour and ship like.
Speaker 2: Did he say that?
Speaker 4: He say that on the last on a song on
Speaker 4: College Dropper, he explained the whole story. I brought him
Speaker 4: on tour.
Speaker 2: Did you know he was crazy from the beginning?
Speaker 4: Oh, listen, I was when Kanye West, when I first
Speaker 4: met him, I said, hold on, y'all, hold this nigga
Speaker 4: plained me.
Speaker 2: Jesus Walks when I first met him. Wait the first
Speaker 2: day you met him? He played the first day, maybe
Speaker 2: the first month or so. Okay, beat or lyrics song done.
Speaker 2: This is four or five years before the Ship came out.
Speaker 2: This nigga played me. He played me, Dear Mama, No,
Speaker 2: dear Mama, the hey Mama. I said, I've never.
Speaker 4: Heard nothing so beautiful in my life.
Speaker 2: He played me that. He played me Jesus Walks, I said,
Speaker 2: And it was the Vergon that came out.
Speaker 4: This is this is before he had a deal, before
Speaker 4: College drop Out. He played me, Jesus Walks. He played
Speaker 4: me A bunch of a bunch of those songs, A
Speaker 4: bunche of those songs. But I remember Jesus Walks and
Speaker 4: the Hey Mama. I said, you need to put these
Speaker 4: ships out now. He said, no, no, no, that's what
Speaker 4: nigga said. He said, my first album.
Speaker 2: Is before he had a deal, no deal, He knew
Speaker 2: what he wanted to do.
Speaker 4: He said, my first album is called College Dropout.
Speaker 2: These songs.
Speaker 4: My next album is called Late Late Registration. That the
Speaker 4: that Jesus Walks, and I mean the Hey Mama, that's
Speaker 4: gonna be a late registration. Wow, Jesus Walks, Jesus Walks
Speaker 4: gonna be Jesus Walks again, cad from College Dropout. But
Speaker 4: when he put it out, Jesus Walks was a single.
Speaker 4: He says it on the song, this is my single.
Speaker 4: Dog radio needs this, he says it on the song.
Speaker 2: And you knew, and you knew, like did you know
Speaker 2: he was a genius? So you just knew.
Speaker 4: I couldn't to be real with you because they heard
Speaker 4: a niggas used to distance tell him everybody had the
Speaker 4: hot beast, but niggas be he was trying to sell
Speaker 4: himself as an artist, and niggas like, we want your beasts.
Speaker 4: But and I used to be like he was.
Speaker 2: He used to be on a tour bus with us.
Speaker 4: He husedd be rhyming and he's rom all the time everything.
Speaker 4: And you come in the room, somebody knew coming the room,
Speaker 4: he kicked a rom like say, I kicked around for you.
Speaker 4: Somebody new coming the room.
Speaker 2: He gets kicking the rom again for the new nigga.
Speaker 2: He was annoying. Sometimes it's annoying. It's thirsty. It's thirsty, thirsty, right,
Speaker 2: but he was he had no balance, but he knew
Speaker 2: he was going. He knew he was.
Speaker 9: Going sometimes being thirsty. He listen, when we did we
Speaker 9: was you know my team. We did the street team
Speaker 9: for depth jam Rockefeller.
Speaker 2: Stopped that stopped that stopped that sound and so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna stop passing week give it away? What was I mean?
Speaker 2: I mean an interview moved? Come on?
Speaker 5: And what was the single that he had the joints,
Speaker 5: when he had the when he got the wire through
Speaker 5: the wire?
Speaker 2: That was it with? What was what was homegirl? On
Speaker 2: the old school?
Speaker 5: G Shock Shuka Khan, Wait, wait, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 5: nobody asks for shots to Tiger bone.
Speaker 2: Hold on, come on, did you say I got I got?
Speaker 2: I gotta make an appearance at a club. We had
Speaker 2: a video right now this hold on standing up.
Speaker 7: I gotta give my Kanye story. I wanted to give
Speaker 7: you a car. It's not wanting to half Kanye story.
Speaker 2: Because this is gonna suck everybody like that. Did we
Speaker 2: drink this? You don't drink water water. We don't like
Speaker 2: you to drink chance water because I do drink water.
Speaker 2: What I get some water? We got water water extra HP.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's aloha Accoline Real Real Drink Championship, Real Drink Championship.
Speaker 2: Because this is how you really do a drink Champs.
Speaker 2: You drink water, so you keep drinking a hundred. Let's
Speaker 2: make some noise to live trying to be smart. There's
Speaker 2: no they're smart about this shot about to take. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna just throw it out there. Water. You gotta tell
Speaker 2: your story. The story is whacked now, by the way.
Speaker 2: But why we was doing We did the promo shot.
Speaker 2: Gigs was not here. We did deaf jam Rockefeller water
Speaker 2: water going. Don't take that shot yet. Don't take that water.
Speaker 2: I got you, but I think you should take to
Speaker 2: take the water off the drink Champs, drink water whatever,
Speaker 2: drink can't drink water, brou the gamlet all right, cool
Speaker 2: o g wisdom. We need to be hydrated, man, so
Speaker 2: we can keep drinking. I'm gonna let you get away
Speaker 2: with this right now. Man, you I want you to
Speaker 2: drink water because I care about you. You know what,
Speaker 2: the I can't the whole toll. There was like three
Speaker 2: people who just said that they can't drink water. I'm
Speaker 2: just layded and just like my story, go ahead, get
Speaker 2: to it. The story is whack now, but you just
Speaker 2: forgot your story. No, no, no, I't forget about I
Speaker 2: was doing this.
Speaker 7: I was the street team manager for Miami for Deaf
Speaker 7: Jam and Rockefeller, and nobody believed in in Kanye Rocket right, so.
Speaker 2: They did not. He leaked that record head I remember that,
Speaker 2: and then he he paid for the video.
Speaker 4: He paid, he paid for the radio promotion and he look.
Speaker 2: At that niggas changing the rules for you. They got
Speaker 2: water and ship my story. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, ball
Speaker 2: go ahead. So he leaked the record. He and he
Speaker 2: went to the He went to the He went to
Speaker 2: the Mix Suore Power Summit in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 7: I was there.
Speaker 4: I was and we performed that Common was there and
Speaker 4: most of then and at the window resort in Puerto
Speaker 4: Rico Real del Mar.
Speaker 2: He's still ruining my story. Yeah, aad we forgot, so he.
Speaker 7: Organized out of pocket. He told all the reps. I wait, wait,
Speaker 7: hold on hold, I'm sorry, Jesus Christian.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about in his song with jay Z and
Speaker 4: Kanye and the song when they say uh uh uh
Speaker 4: DJ and Puerto Rico for three days though, that's what
Speaker 4: you're talking about.
Speaker 7: About.
Speaker 2: Get your story. I'm trying to.
Speaker 7: Continue, So you organize the conference call. He gets on
Speaker 7: the call and it's Kanye the way we know Kanye.
Speaker 7: He said much it is hot, and the guys to
Speaker 7: take it to the radio. I'm coming to every market,
Speaker 7: be ready and early.
Speaker 2: On my tour. Nobody knows when. Look how he I
Speaker 2: like the way he threw that.
Speaker 1: He came on my So let's make some noise for.
Speaker 2: Respect for Kanye. We all got mad respectful Kanye Geminus.
Speaker 2: I have way more respectful. I don't know why the
Speaker 2: table just moved. I moved whatever you you got super heroes? Stress,
Speaker 2: this is crazy. Alright, listen, all right, listen, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be honest.
Speaker 4: Be honest.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was lying before no, but.
Speaker 5: No, I'm gonna be honest. I took a shot with
Speaker 5: this with care rests one after the show.
Speaker 2: That's impressive.
Speaker 5: After the show, he was my man. I did investigation
Speaker 5: on him, like you, I hit you straight up.
Speaker 2: You said you like Hennessy like the Dark, so I
Speaker 2: wouldn't like dark. I said whatever dark right? He said whatever?
Speaker 2: But I did you know, care Rest, I did a
Speaker 2: real investigation, said, beef, what a relief? When were this
Speaker 2: poison in this product? Cease definitely took it to a
Speaker 2: different angle.
Speaker 4: But I'm with that.
Speaker 2: I at with that as well. But I studied care
Speaker 2: Rest and I knew he liked it My ties right,
Speaker 2: so we had the people, So we had the people
Speaker 2: at the like. It just was my fucking pleasure like
Speaker 2: a person I grew up listening to even though I'm
Speaker 2: from Queens. I told him the Criminal Ny. It was
Speaker 2: the only two songs I couldn't listen to because of
Speaker 2: my you know, my loyalty if But now so I
Speaker 2: through the investigation, I found out he likes my ties.
Speaker 2: We get the guys to make the best my ties
Speaker 2: in the world. We give them enough of we do it.
Speaker 2: So I had already run. In my mind, I think
Speaker 2: we had a drunk caress one and we had a.
Speaker 5: Drunk Cares, but I had one like in my mind
Speaker 5: it was like this is dope because it was dope interview.
Speaker 5: We had a little side step with the you know
Speaker 5: the way he answered this is okay, I've defended him.
Speaker 2: The next this is my brother. You know, I love him.
Speaker 2: It's like my lyrical father, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I did take the shot with car Arres after
Speaker 2: the podcast. Now, with that being said, this is my
Speaker 2: during the podcast. No, it was after. Now.
Speaker 5: Now we're doing a shot of tiger bone during the podcast. Now,
Speaker 5: so I must warn you when did we get sushi
Speaker 5: with this? When I took the shot with Krres.
Speaker 2: He's my his next started sweat. I knew he was drunk.
Speaker 2: There's no way your next sweat unless you drunk. I
Speaker 2: kind of when O g ship when you're next sweat?
Speaker 2: So if our next sweat, We're going to end this
Speaker 2: interview early, all right, But we got to yo.
Speaker 5: He hates this ship and hey man, you know, listen,
Speaker 5: we got to show you how we do this live drink.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna front this chair is killed myself. I've
Speaker 2: been I've been trying to draw less. Feel like I
Speaker 2: was sitting on the pocket. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 7: This podcast is ruining my career and your liver, everything,
Speaker 7: everything everything.
Speaker 2: You know, when somebody tweeted me the other day said
Speaker 2: thank you knowing for sacrificing your liver. People's life. So
Speaker 2: my liver, man, I saw my liver. All right, listen,
Speaker 2: So this is how we do it, all right. I
Speaker 2: think that was your drink. I don't know which one
Speaker 2: you got. You got to Tyler, all right, you gotta
Speaker 2: take their glasses off.
Speaker 4: Just for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we gotta see your sideways. This is Tiger
Speaker 2: Bowl man. You're from New York City, you know, all right,
Speaker 2: repect boma. I used to I used to drink sing up.
Speaker 2: This is three thousand alright, I'm done, alright, come on,
Speaker 2: I have you has to Yeah, where you at? Sonny? Shot?
Speaker 3: Right here?
Speaker 2: There's your second shot? Okay, I'm taking right now, got it?
Speaker 2: That was not fair? Where my water? Now? Holy water?
Speaker 7: This is disgusting man, yo, But why you keep drinking
Speaker 7: this ancient tiny secret?
Speaker 2: Bro? You know somebody gave me a water they just here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well you gotta take my ship. Sorry. Yeah, man, don't
Speaker 2: take another one ty left. You can't. You can't. That's
Speaker 2: your that's the other one that's for the coaches. Want
Speaker 2: to make sure that my pocket and take away for
Speaker 2: the coaches, for the culture. Don't take another one left.
Speaker 2: So now now I just want to stay standing. Now.
Speaker 2: I want to stay standing to you. Gonna stand up there? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can stand up. I'm alright. What happened behind and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit down. So I'm gonna stand up right now.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stand up and stand up to this ship.
Speaker 11: I told you to you right now.
Speaker 2: I told you Tago bhone change your life, man, you
Speaker 2: changed your life.
Speaker 5: Everybody has a tiger bone story about me.
Speaker 4: You notice that, Like when you don't see you, you
Speaker 4: made a decision to become the tiger boat guy about
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: How that has happened. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Everybody has a tag story, but you you made you did?
Speaker 4: I remember I remember crossed over to the side of
Speaker 4: the mission. He was like, I'm gonna talk about tiger
Speaker 4: Bone in every.
Speaker 2: Because it's different.
Speaker 7: You know what it is.
Speaker 2: It's illegal, that's what it was.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: It was it was the originally part of the mystique.
Speaker 2: It was illegal. It's like smoking. It's like smoking, it's
Speaker 2: like smoking Beaties. You try to buy a pack of
Speaker 2: Khalil's Beaties, Hold on time about did you say beanies? Beaties?
Speaker 2: The little the little after not little, not eleven.
Speaker 4: They banned Khalil's Beaties used to buy because they had
Speaker 4: an association with like some sort of organization, so they
Speaker 4: banned them.
Speaker 2: Ships. Remember we used to bottom ships in the hood,
Speaker 2: and then one day you couldn't not eleven. What do
Speaker 2: you googles? Its tag bone. Let's think tag bone. No,
Speaker 2: let's just listen.
Speaker 4: I'll take another shot of tager bone after I work
Speaker 4: tonight because I still gotta work.
Speaker 2: That was like a Prince answer. You've been hanging with
Speaker 2: prints way too much. That was a Prince answer. You
Speaker 2: got one shot right there, I'm gonna join you, not
Speaker 2: my shot. I don't claim responsibility. You did, you did?
Speaker 2: You picked up joke? That was when you pick up
Speaker 2: two shots to lib you committed. That was a visual.
Speaker 2: You can't put the fried chicken back, like when you're
Speaker 2: in the barbecue and you picked up two pieces of
Speaker 2: chicken at the Black barbecue that's a false equivalency. He got,
Speaker 2: he got way too, he got. I don't even know
Speaker 2: what the word with that, poly like, I don't know what.
Speaker 2: Come on, we're gonna do one more because the chicken
Speaker 2: you touch the drink is a plastic cup. No, you
Speaker 2: kind to get too smart on us. We can't.
Speaker 7: We can't let you get away with that plastic cup.
Speaker 2: We can't let you get away with that. If I
Speaker 2: did my finger in it or I drink it, it's
Speaker 2: pretty much the same when you grab it. Watch, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna join you. I'm gonna join you, and I've been
Speaker 2: fucked up all day. Listen, let me just say something,
Speaker 2: thank you for joining us at the drink chance. We
Speaker 2: had hair arrests, drink three shots.
Speaker 5: We just want you to have to by myself on
Speaker 5: the oh no, no, because your clap was not aggressive
Speaker 5: at all when you wanted to listen.
Speaker 2: When you want people to clap to live, you got
Speaker 2: to say everybody, listen.
Speaker 5: Listen, let's make some noise with you'll live trying to
Speaker 5: get a soft clap.
Speaker 2: Out of this drink chat. We don't do that over here.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take one more shot with you. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that's Michaelas Actually that's great, way man, all right, cool,
Speaker 2: you want me to help you out. That's the moonshine.
Speaker 2: This is this is this is Chinese moonshine. So listen.
Speaker 4: So how many how many listeners y'all got?
Speaker 2: At this point, we were approaching three million? We approached there.
Speaker 2: In April we had two point two millions, So let's
Speaker 2: make let's make some noise April. We ain't talk about
Speaker 2: the money wherever. Half a million a week, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? And three million people listening to this bullshit.
Speaker 2: That's right, it's bullshit.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, YO, tell how Fu'm absolutely right.
Speaker 2: I can't believe this bullshit. Listen, every time we speak,
Speaker 2: we make a podcast, every time we speaking technically, And
Speaker 2: let me tell you something Nas told me ten years ago.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, Like we was around like to me,
Speaker 2: Nas told me the internet was going to.
Speaker 4: Happen, that's right, like something like we was in something
Speaker 4: Algore algor with a black mask on please bridge.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was equivalent to what I
Speaker 2: was thinking about. But we sat in and actually has
Speaker 2: a portfolio. I actually filmed it. It was for what
Speaker 2: what documentary?
Speaker 5: And I sat there and when I filmed him and
Speaker 5: we just talked about like you know, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: so and he told me, he said, someday these people
Speaker 5: are gonna pay us for our conversation. I thought he
Speaker 5: meant the internet when the internet got got involved in Twitter,
Speaker 5: I thought he meant that.
Speaker 2: But then years later, now.
Speaker 5: I realized that he was telling me I was gonna
Speaker 5: have this podcast number one and have millions of people
Speaker 5: listen to our bullshit together as a one, because you
Speaker 5: know what, hip hop classic stories with the people who
Speaker 5: love And.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this bone with you. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: pick up that tag of bone.
Speaker 5: If you can drink that tag of bone and drink
Speaker 5: that hennessy, I ain't gonna lie. You the hardest nigga
Speaker 5: in Brooklyn and Nebraska. Oh no, that's water.
Speaker 2: If you can finish, listen, I'm gonna keep you real,
Speaker 2: fuck everything else. If you can drink this this shot
Speaker 2: at tag of ball and then finish your Hennessy, you
Speaker 2: the hardest anywhere. No no, no, don't finish that first hour.
Speaker 2: That's not that's water my palate. All right, he's getting ready,
Speaker 2: all right at Nebraska and Home and the Dakotas in
Speaker 2: Brooklyn and Day County. Alright, so look and this and
Speaker 2: I should remember take your glasses. Yeah, Jesus Christmas, I
Speaker 2: love it. I love it. I love it. Yes, if
Speaker 2: you gotta take your shot, No, it's right there, just out.
Speaker 2: Can I get it? Fortunate? Where's my fortunate? Christ? We
Speaker 2: just drank cat urine ship. I should know jiu jitsu
Speaker 2: after I drink that ship?
Speaker 1: Man, Now, are you sure you're still in for this?
Speaker 2: I gotta work to that. You can quit, you can
Speaker 2: quit water, or you can finish your hands water. I
Speaker 2: want to see if you're a real brook Clinn nigga
Speaker 2: right now. Damn I kept water. Yes, yes, allowed, listen water.
Speaker 2: I'm on the water side of the.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're allowed to see plenty water. But I'm gonna
Speaker 5: keep it Red Hennessy and Tiger Bone. I don't remember
Speaker 5: them being friends ever.
Speaker 2: Name This podcast usually last like this long? Yes, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's real hip hop.
Speaker 4: You know, like I don't listen to podcasts.
Speaker 2: We got we want you to listen to podcast He
Speaker 2: loved he came in here. He gave me was a
Speaker 2: gainst this day. He said, I ain't listening to you
Speaker 2: all the way I listened to you. I said thank you,
Speaker 2: because maybe he wouldn't have game, because right now we
Speaker 2: got him lit. You gotta work tonight. Big up your video.
Speaker 2: You just shot a video. You want to pick that up? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 2: big up my video. Good girls, Good girls. Once again.
Speaker 4: I was doing the video. I had a I was
Speaker 4: called with him. Shout out to Alicia, Keys and Rhapsody
Speaker 4: and bust around was on the conference call.
Speaker 5: I went to the I went to the White House wall. Yeah,
Speaker 5: let's talk about that. I heard about you never go
Speaker 5: in to the Rock House after you leave this in
Speaker 5: the name. Let's hurry up the keys.
Speaker 4: At the White House.
Speaker 2: I heard a long you know what major keys are?
Speaker 2: He dropped some gems. That story got out. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: wils Along went off. Let's make no noise for that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he had the house. That's make at the White House.
Speaker 2: That was the most.
Speaker 5: Let me I heard one story. Let me just heard
Speaker 5: one story about the White House. Please everybody be quiet.
Speaker 5: I heard one story about the White House. I heard
Speaker 5: that when bull Rock Obama got you all in the room.
Speaker 2: He said, some of youall niggas, tax issues ain't right,
Speaker 2: and y'all might be and y'all might be arrested when
Speaker 2: you leave this property. Is that true? That's a dog
Speaker 2: shit if you said that part one is true.
Speaker 5: Okay, parts He didn't say you will be arrested. No,
Speaker 5: he didn't say, but he said, you heard that story.
Speaker 5: He said, I'm gonna hooe you over my accounting guys.
Speaker 2: Right here, man, he said called.
Speaker 4: Obama said, he said, we was talking about criminal justice reform.
Speaker 2: By the way, Barack Obama has released like hundreds of people.
Speaker 2: Let's make some noise from Brock Obama release people. He
Speaker 2: is crazy.
Speaker 4: He has also used drones as a preemptive measure, So
Speaker 4: don't make no noise for that. Hey man, listen, the
Speaker 4: job of the president is not easy, is to maintain
Speaker 4: the status quo. But let's stop being serious for right.
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's get back. People want to laugh. We
Speaker 2: got to get people so serious.
Speaker 4: But Rick Ross bracelet went off. That was that was
Speaker 4: that was great, and Obama said, and Obama's and Rick Ross,
Speaker 4: Rick Ross like.
Speaker 2: A true Miami dude. And he was a true Miami dude.
Speaker 2: Rick Ross represented Miami. Wait, wait minute, no, this is
Speaker 2: all let's tell I live live.
Speaker 4: The beeping went off.
Speaker 2: And Obama said, what is that?
Speaker 4: That was it?
Speaker 2: Obama? He don't know, he said, what is that? No
Speaker 2: one knew I heard it from. No one knew what
Speaker 2: that was. And Rick Ross said, that's that criminal justice.
Speaker 2: Let's make some noise. Damn shout shout out to Carols City.
Speaker 2: Obama brought us there to talk about criminal justice reform.
Speaker 5: Ri Rick Ross was, like I heard he walked in
Speaker 5: the room and he said a curse and that me
Speaker 5: and everybody relaxed.
Speaker 2: He was like what he said something like he was?
Speaker 3: He was?
Speaker 2: He was?
Speaker 4: He was? He was he you know what he said.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna tell you what he said. He said,
Speaker 4: he said, Tyler qual, I love I listen.
Speaker 2: I listened to the music. I love listening to music.
Speaker 4: I listening to the White House.
Speaker 2: And he looked at as Rocky right.
Speaker 4: He said, I love your music too, but I can't
Speaker 4: listen to it in the house.
Speaker 2: I put my headphones on, Like yeah, but we don't
Speaker 2: want another shot tackle ball, right, We're done with that.
Speaker 2: He could do it. He wants to listen.
Speaker 4: I want to drink some of his Dame Dash Dusco drink.
Speaker 4: I can't thank jams Usco. I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 2: Man. I think we covered all grounds. Is there anything
Speaker 2: that you want to say to you? Is there anything
Speaker 2: you want to say to the people? We got about
Speaker 2: like fourth people listening to us right now. I want
Speaker 2: to say people, Yeah, don't drink what's the drink en,
Speaker 2: don't eat the yellow snow? All right?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 5: And the gum under the table is not candy. The
Speaker 5: gum under the table is not candy. You're Tyler Carley.
Speaker 5: You've been a great sport man. We really appreciate you
Speaker 5: because you know why you so much? Positive, you so
Speaker 5: much a hip hop activist. You're our version of Ol
Speaker 5: Sharpton without.
Speaker 2: The goddamn that's my nigga. Al Sharpton is a good dude,
Speaker 2: is it really?
Speaker 1: However, I'm not no, No, I mean like you what
Speaker 1: I mean by you know what I mean what I
Speaker 1: mean by that?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but it's something wh But what I mean
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 5: It's you, you the guy like yeah, he knew and
Speaker 5: so we called Michael Malcolm Max. What's what's some other people?
Speaker 5: All respect, it's who you are for all respect to them. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And I feel like I'm here the CBS AD coming
Speaker 5: in a trade all right, like see listen, but I
Speaker 5: feel like you're the guy.
Speaker 2: I think that's yes sabatage this last week. We understand, y'all.
Speaker 2: Mother Wilson.
Speaker 11: Yeah, let me just say this real quickly, please, Elliott Wilson,
Speaker 11: you have a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of niggas that do not deserve interviews before teller. I
Speaker 2: don't know where this is going, but I'm with you
Speaker 2: wherever you want to take it. Wherever you want to
Speaker 2: take it, my nigga.
Speaker 4: I love Elliott.
Speaker 2: Elliott. You know to put you on rap rad I
Speaker 2: did not know that rap Radar gave me a lot
Speaker 2: of love.
Speaker 4: But on rap Radar podcast to rap Radar, they give
Speaker 4: me a lot of But the little talks he be having.
Speaker 2: But I'm only saying this because I have a new
Speaker 2: album coming out right.
Speaker 5: But he never put you on rap Radar podcast that
Speaker 5: the little talks he be having, little sis because he
Speaker 5: he had millions high five.
Speaker 2: But let's be clear, we didn't shout because you had
Speaker 2: a new album.
Speaker 4: Listen to our friend. Let me let me shout out.
Speaker 4: Kay Valentine from Chicago were dropping her album with you.
Speaker 4: Voted media.
Speaker 2: Nico Is.
Speaker 4: Nico Is from Orlando, Florida, He was very excited. He said,
Speaker 4: he said, what you're doing, drink Champs?
Speaker 2: Nico hits me up. Nico is very excited. Now I
Speaker 2: was cool.
Speaker 4: I was already excited to do drink Champs. Nico made
Speaker 4: me more excited.
Speaker 2: You know, Elliott Wilson, this is my nigga. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, I listen, what but he didn't
Speaker 2: want to accept you No, let's keep it. Let's just
Speaker 2: keep it. Really you're saying he didn't want to accept.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying. We are. We are capitalizing
Speaker 2: of your fun. Up Elliott Wilson, everybody listen and be
Speaker 2: that you don't answer you you know my phone number?
Speaker 2: Saying we rap this were inside the NBA, were inside
Speaker 2: niggas is just DJ dj J. I never d know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We d.
Speaker 2: DJ. I gotta says some of the rock for I mean,
Speaker 2: you're the problem.
Speaker 4: Jesse, Jeff will Smith, here we go, shout out to
Speaker 4: be dot and Eli Wilson the important participants in shotting
Speaker 4: them out.
Speaker 2: Because drink Champs number one, good fun all people, we
Speaker 2: always with them.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that because I have a new album
Speaker 4: coming out and if I do an interview on them,
Speaker 4: I get to promote my whatever.
Speaker 2: But but but they didn't ask you to come on
Speaker 2: first because.
Speaker 4: He wants to interview people who have trends. But you
Speaker 4: don't understand that I'm trends. Tell I'm waiting bigger than
Speaker 4: trans human. You've been transcending ship forever.
Speaker 2: Nigga. You had an apartment in South Africa, nigga, like
Speaker 2: on my nigga, like like this is the thing is
Speaker 2: with Like I interview legends. I interview people who I know.
Speaker 2: They use that word relevant. We don't need we don't
Speaker 2: that world relevant over here. We make it.
Speaker 4: We use that word legend. Yeah, when you are legend,
Speaker 4: not depending on relevancy for all.
Speaker 2: That that dumb ship. I don't want to I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that representative prince princes,
Speaker 2: but yore just women in their names. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: trying to listen. Let me thank you man for coming
Speaker 2: through me in the NFL. You know we were target people.
Speaker 2: We're both in here together and we really want to
Speaker 2: thank you for coming here. Being a great sport. Listen,
Speaker 2: and you are drunk.
Speaker 4: I am, and I came here in a tank top.
Speaker 2: This is the first time see me a tank my my,
Speaker 2: you like Thresty, you got mad tattoos? You like threst
Speaker 2: You're down with the Spanish game. He's down with He's
Speaker 2: down with Eighteenth Street game. I said, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: I got locked out of my hotel?
Speaker 2: What the fu?
Speaker 5: I just I got a text while stop written them
Speaker 5: air bnbs come back to start, come back to start with.
Speaker 2: I got locked out, but now I got my clothes back.
Speaker 2: Makes the noise, m gags closed back, got it. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna stop smoking this too. I'm tired of this ship.
Speaker 2: Is this the plastic read? I'm done. I'm done. You
Speaker 2: know you don't remember I had stop no no, no.
Speaker 5: Chaas would have smoked no. He wanted a joint. Remember
Speaker 5: what Chaas wanted to joint? Tyler Qualley, thank you for
Speaker 5: hanging out with us, man. We really appreciate that that
Speaker 5: Bottrow Hennessy could go with you out.
Speaker 2: I'm taking it. You taking it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Let's make something. Oh my god, you gotta take some
Speaker 2: pics done. That was absolutely ridiculous.
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