WEBVTT - Leger Douzable Reviews the 2024 Jets Draft Class (4/30)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the official Jets podcast, Eric on here at

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<v Speaker 1>one Jets Drive, joined by Lejayduza bolt Well, the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four NFL draft came and went you what is

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<v Speaker 1>your thirty thousand foot observation of what the Jets did?

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<v Speaker 2>Very solid draft, Okaya, A lot of position of needs

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<v Speaker 2>were filled, right And I know people will look at

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<v Speaker 2>that first pick, and I know we're going to go

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<v Speaker 2>pick by pick, but I thought it was a home

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<v Speaker 2>run pick, the OLU fashion New pick. Just when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at you know where they got him at, where

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<v Speaker 2>he can come into a situation where he's learning behind

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<v Speaker 2>an all pro and a consummate pro, one being Tyron Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>the other being Morgan Moses. And then let's not also

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<v Speaker 2>forget when you look at Morgan Moses's deal, essentially that

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<v Speaker 2>equates to a swing tackle deal, kind of like in

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty one season when he came to the Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>So if Oulu, you know, develops faster than the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>think you will, there's a good chance e a that

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<v Speaker 2>who's playing a lot sooner than people think.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, very interesting. Okay, so let's stick there with the

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<v Speaker 1>big Penn State tackle. He has played left on the

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<v Speaker 1>left side all the way since high school. What would

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<v Speaker 1>the transition be for him as far as lining up

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<v Speaker 1>on the right side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's tough. It's literally I've talked to a few

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<v Speaker 2>offensive linemen EA, and they say it's like doing everything backwards,

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<v Speaker 2>like tying one hand behind your back, because you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Your brain function has to switch everything right from your

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<v Speaker 2>plant leg to your kick leg and everything so to

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<v Speaker 2>your punch hand. All that is opposite when you switch

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<v Speaker 2>from one side to the other. So it's not as

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<v Speaker 2>easy as people think. And the thing about it is,

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<v Speaker 2>I love Timon Smith, but ea, we've seen a history

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<v Speaker 2>of him not being able to complete seventeen game seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's the tricky thing for this Jets coaching

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<v Speaker 2>staff in regards to Olu Fashionu like, when you're developing him,

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<v Speaker 2>do you just keep him at left for the future

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<v Speaker 2>and just in case Tyers Smith goes down or do

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<v Speaker 2>you cross train him that way? He's the swing guy

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<v Speaker 2>and he can go in if anybody goes down at

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<v Speaker 2>right or left tackle. So that's that's the tidbit that

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait to find out what the plan is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot dude, you could see it going either way, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are there are arguments on both sides there

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<v Speaker 1>that make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, definitely, there's an argument that you just want to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, bring him in and just keep him and

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<v Speaker 2>plant him at left tackle because we kind of know

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<v Speaker 2>what the timer Smith is going to be a one

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<v Speaker 2>year thing. You took Olu at pick eleven, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the tackle of the future. Or because

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get the best players out on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>you cross train him right and in case somebody goes down,

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<v Speaker 2>say Morgan Moses goes down, knock on wood, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>one thing he usually doesn't do is miss games, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's an iron man. But just in case, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have him cross trains to go in at right

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<v Speaker 2>tackle as well. So that's that's the caveat to this,

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<v Speaker 2>this whole puzzle and put and get together for this

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<v Speaker 2>coaching staff. Do we just plant him at left tackle

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<v Speaker 2>or do we cross train him?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, We're gonna love to see how that actually unfolds.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers even mentioned him possibly playing guard. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see that.

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<v Speaker 2>What you what do you think about that? Listen?

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers brilliant dude. I think he was probably just

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<v Speaker 1>raving about his athletic ability. I think my take on

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<v Speaker 1>that is probably, hey, he's gonna yeah right. Uh, what

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<v Speaker 1>about the way the board actually fell before the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>went on the clock at ten? Uh, we knew there

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a run on offensive players, and

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<v Speaker 1>there certainly was. But what did you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets options at ten and also the possibility of moving

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<v Speaker 1>off before that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And it's crazy because when we did this mock,

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<v Speaker 2>I literally put us in the scenario that happened on

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<v Speaker 2>uh you throughout the draft. I made it nice as

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<v Speaker 2>hard as possible. I put it where there was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a run on so many offensive players that

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets would have to trade up to potentially eight

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<v Speaker 2>to get to get Roma Dounze. But in ours I

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<v Speaker 2>stayed patent to you know, Troy Fontanu because Rome went

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<v Speaker 2>at nine, just like he did in real life. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would not be surprised if Joe d

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<v Speaker 2>actually did reach out to Atlanta. I just think Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>was staying pat I was one of the few people

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<v Speaker 2>that heard, you know, and got wind of the rumors

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<v Speaker 2>that they could take Michael Pennick Jr. Actually had a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast that do for CBS. I stated it on that

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday that do not be surprised that Atlanta Falcons be

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<v Speaker 2>a sneaky team to take a quarterback and that quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>be Michael Penick Junr. Just because I heard ea that

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<v Speaker 2>they flew out in the extensive work on him. I

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of people didn't see that happening, them

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<v Speaker 2>taking a quarterback at eight just because they paid Kurt

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<v Speaker 2>co Chain's a bowload of money. But that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like threw the draft a little bit into tailspind because

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<v Speaker 2>even if Joe D reaches out to Atlanta, I heard

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<v Speaker 2>rumors that three other teams were trying to trade in

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<v Speaker 2>the top ten to get Michael Pennick Junior. So Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>was never leaving off of eight. So I think Joe

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<v Speaker 2>D did what he could, and I love that he

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<v Speaker 2>was able to trade back just one spot and pick

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<v Speaker 2>up some draft capital. So kudos to him, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for being smart and tactical in that situation and being

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<v Speaker 2>able to pick up a few extra pigs by moving

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<v Speaker 2>back just one spot.

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<v Speaker 1>So credit goes to you because you've got high on

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<v Speaker 1>panics throughout the scouting process. You thought people were sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>on him, and that comes to fruition on Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 1>Round one of the draft, where he goes eight overall

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<v Speaker 1>great six six quarterbacks taken in the top twelve selections,

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<v Speaker 1>too rich.

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<v Speaker 2>I never would have saw that. I would have never

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<v Speaker 2>saw that. I'm not even gonna like to Denver. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to talk to a few people, and I knew

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<v Speaker 2>that Sean Payne and and the Denver Brash were high

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<v Speaker 2>on Nicks. I thought it was a scenario where they

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<v Speaker 2>would try to trade back and maybe get him at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the first at worse. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>there was a scenario where they were kind of pigeonholed

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<v Speaker 2>just because of the way the draft fell, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not too many people wanted to move up. Kind of

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<v Speaker 2>surprised some teams didn't try to move up and get

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<v Speaker 2>a fatanu. He fell all the way to I believe

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<v Speaker 2>what twenty EA, which was a surprise. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>see that happening in the draft. So maybe Denver did

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<v Speaker 2>make some calls and nobody was willing to move up,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe they just didn't feel comfortable dropping back too

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<v Speaker 2>far because they knew the Raiders were there at thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>it could they potentially have taken both knicks, so they

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<v Speaker 2>ended up getting their quarterback of the future. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>little rich like you were saying, I didn't see twelve

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback I mean six quarterbacks going in the first twelve picks.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's literally fifty percent of the draft going

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<v Speaker 2>in the first twelve picks was quarterbacks. Like, when does

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<v Speaker 2>that ever happen? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>What does it say about the state of the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League that the first fourteen picks in the two

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<v Speaker 1>thoy twenty four NFL Draft we're all offensive players And

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<v Speaker 1>as a former defense alignment, are you pissed?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I'm pissed. It's disgusting and lets you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Lets you know the thought process of the NFL right now,

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<v Speaker 2>right it's the offensive base league. And more so, I

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<v Speaker 2>think teams are looking at it as if, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a quarterback, I have no chance, right because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody would have penciled six quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 2>the first twelve And you stated it. The first defensive

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<v Speaker 2>player was like Atsu Latsu. He didn't go to pick fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>So almost halfway through the draft that was when the

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<v Speaker 2>first defensive player came, which is unheard of. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the longest and recent memory was like seven picks right

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<v Speaker 2>before a defensive player had been taken. So you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about double that before a defensive player was taken. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's it shows you the way the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL is trending. Offensive base league. The old school, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>defensive wins championships, ya is here no more.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bottom line is it from a Jets perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>it made sense that they were going to offensive player because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a very good defense. Correct, that might be

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<v Speaker 1>elite if a couple things here this year, and on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a better unit than last year. Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that here in a couple moments. But

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<v Speaker 1>we knew all along that, hey, it's either going to

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<v Speaker 1>be tackle or receiver. And you weren't surprised at all

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<v Speaker 1>that Douglas did not take brock Powers.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, not at all. And I've read some things and

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<v Speaker 2>talked to a few people, and I don't even think

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<v Speaker 2>it was a consideration for the Jets. Ea, You've heard

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<v Speaker 2>me say multiple times, I love this tight end room

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets have. We talk about Tyler Conklin, Jeremy Rucker

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<v Speaker 2>and I think Joe Douglas spoke to that as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and also Robert Sala. They love that tight end room

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And you talk about Zach Koons, a developmental

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<v Speaker 2>guy that they took in the seventh who has another

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<v Speaker 2>year under his belt, you would think the development would

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<v Speaker 2>be there also with Kenny Yoboa. But those two top

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<v Speaker 2>guys I think are sure fired really good players. When

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about Tyler Conklin and Jeremy ruckerds so to me, again,

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<v Speaker 2>you can say what you want about Brock Bowers, and

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<v Speaker 2>again I like brock Brows as a player. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>positional value is a real thing. You could say he's

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<v Speaker 2>a weapon X and all this, and that he's still

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<v Speaker 2>a tight end at the end of the day. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously the Raiders when they got to their pick,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they took Michael Mayer last year, they decided,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was so high on our board, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and grab him. I still thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>a little rich, even for him at thirteen. But I

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<v Speaker 2>love what the gestat and not getting Rock Bowers, not

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<v Speaker 2>to say he's not a good player. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>tackle made a lot more sense for the New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it possible that fashion Neu has a higher ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>than Joe Wald too went number five overall to the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 2>He has the highest ceiling in this draft at offensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think it's close. When you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that has the arm length that he has,

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<v Speaker 2>the lower body strength that he has, how he's able

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<v Speaker 2>to move people off the football. Now, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people will say in that Ohio State game, he got

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<v Speaker 2>beat with some power, but he still didn't give up

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<v Speaker 2>a sack in that game. So when you look at it,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, as long as your

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback doesn't get sacked, you did your job as an

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<v Speaker 2>offensive tackle. So he's going to get stronger. He's already

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<v Speaker 2>got great lower body strengths. I saw he was working

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<v Speaker 2>out with Duke out there in Texas and I saw

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<v Speaker 2>some of those dead lift in the Lord's an. He's

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<v Speaker 2>he's a unit. Now, he's a unit. So he's only

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<v Speaker 2>going to get stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, if he's working out at the gym and I

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<v Speaker 1>walk in, I'm going to do some cardio.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be back to lift waights later.

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<v Speaker 1>So Day two, the Jets had to wait a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Douglas. Uh, not afraid to trade on Draft weekend

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<v Speaker 1>six in all four trade downs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny, we'll get into Malachi. But I literally

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<v Speaker 2>thought on day three, I'm like, are the Jets ever

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<v Speaker 2>gonna pick the eight? Like every time we were up,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a trade back, trade down, trade back, trade back.

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<v Speaker 2>But get it into Corley. This was a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets were extremely high on, right. You know, they

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<v Speaker 2>got to see him out there at the Senior Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>and you saw the text message that went viral right

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<v Speaker 2>between Joe d and Robert Sala Malachi Coraley no matter what,

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<v Speaker 2>right little Draft day homage right there. Respect to that

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<v Speaker 2>movie and.

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<v Speaker 1>The way Ethan interviewed him on Ethan Greenbergy after the truck.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that and al said he loved the movie

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<v Speaker 1>but hated it.

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<v Speaker 2>Does No GM probably likes that movie, man. No GM

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<v Speaker 2>probably likes that movie. When you talk about Melicai Corley

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<v Speaker 2>and what he refits in with the Jets, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets were high on him than a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>other than more than other teams three. There's rumors. There's

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<v Speaker 2>rumors that he was number four after the Big Three

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<v Speaker 2>on their list, which I could see why when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the way he plays, it kind of fits

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<v Speaker 2>the mantra of all gas no breaks that Robert Salah has.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a guy that you just got to get

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<v Speaker 2>the ball in space. They call him the yacht king,

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<v Speaker 2>right because yards after contact are big for him, or

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<v Speaker 2>yards after I say yards after contact. For him it's

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<v Speaker 2>yards after contact, but that means yards after catch, but

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<v Speaker 2>for Melica it's yards after contact. Because he's a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's no fair dodging. I mean, this guy put up

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<v Speaker 2>two twenty five, twenty seven times. That's what d Lineman

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<v Speaker 2>put up, right. So you see the strength in the body.

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<v Speaker 2>You see it on film constantly, him just shrugging guys off,

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<v Speaker 2>running through guys. He's one of those guys that he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make defensive backs make business decisions ea. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>a guy where you just get the ball to him

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<v Speaker 2>and on screens, on crossing patterns, you know, speed sweeps,

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<v Speaker 2>and just let him go. He has a different skill

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<v Speaker 2>set than any other receiver in that room. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I think he fits in really well. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that's probably gonna get five to six touches a

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<v Speaker 2>game where they just get him the ball in space

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<v Speaker 2>and just let him go.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting the way he was used at Western Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you take a similar approach at the next level

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<v Speaker 1>with the Jets and specifically this offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure as he develops his route tree, because

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<v Speaker 2>it was a big question mark for him. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>how diverse was his route tree? And I think at

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<v Speaker 2>the Senior Bowl he showed pretty well. Right, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>clip I remember him going one on one with Queen

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<v Speaker 2>Ya Mitchell, who to me was the number one quarter

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stemmed them outside and beat them inside, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, let's growth right there in this

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<v Speaker 2>rap development. That's something that the Jets can work on.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think for his rookie year, you have a

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<v Speaker 2>plan in place for him where you just get him

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, similar to what Western Kentucky did and just

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<v Speaker 2>let him go.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, how unique is it the way he runs after

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<v Speaker 1>the catch. I know, hey, listen, I hate putting pro

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<v Speaker 1>comps on guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know where you're going. I know where you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>When you hear Deebo Samuel, your ears perk up and you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, I think the difference between the two, the

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<v Speaker 2>physicalness is definitely Debo I think Debo has a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more acceleration. Al Yeah, but the physicalness and the

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<v Speaker 2>way that Debo runs and the way he makes DB's

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<v Speaker 2>make business decisions, it's it's on the money to me,

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<v Speaker 2>actually reminds me a little bit more of Golden Tate.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people tend to forget how good Golden

0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Tate was and how physical Golden Tate was after he

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<v Speaker 2>caught the ball, right, uh, you just go back to

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<v Speaker 2>when he h was I think in Detroit and he

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<v Speaker 2>played Seattle and he caught that ball on the sideline

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<v Speaker 2>and stefan one dude and then flipped in the end

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<v Speaker 2>zone to score a touchdown. Like it shows you the

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<v Speaker 2>lower body strength that he has. And Malakai Corley is

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<v Speaker 2>just like Golden Tate in that manner. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>they'll use him in the same way that you know

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<v Speaker 2>the Detroit Lions used him as well, where they use

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<v Speaker 2>him a lot of crossing patterns. That way, you get

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<v Speaker 2>him on a safety end in one on one in

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<v Speaker 2>the open field, and you make that safety make a

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<v Speaker 2>decision whether he's really about that life tackling or not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I think you know this this offense should

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<v Speaker 2>do with Malakai Corley.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to day three. The draft surprise here at

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<v Speaker 1>all from your perspective to the Jets go to running backs,

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich around a quarterback. We knew the developmental passer was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come at some point day three. And we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to Jordan Travis in the second. But your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>Allen from Wisconsin isaaed Davis from South Dakota State.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, both big physical backs. I think Braylen Allen if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the twenty twenty two tape, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a monster. EA, Like, I believe he led

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<v Speaker 2>the nation in broken tackles and it was like by

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<v Speaker 2>a large amount. It wasn't even close. I mean when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at him, just look at the physique of him,

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of reminds you of King Henry, like honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny that I said that because they actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, work out together in Texas. So he's actually

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<v Speaker 2>shifty for a guy his size. Now, he's not the

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<v Speaker 2>best pass catcher at all, but he's a guy that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get you those tough yards, and guys just

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to bounce off of him, EA like literally, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Isaiah Davis. I'm a huge Isaiah Davis fan. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember calling his playoff game two years ago out there

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<v Speaker 2>in South Dakota when they played UC Davis. At the time,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a running back that was in front of

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<v Speaker 2>him called named Pierre Strong, but Isaiah Davis was started

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<v Speaker 2>taking carries away from him because he was that special

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<v Speaker 2>of a player, ultra productive. He has a Le'Veon bell

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<v Speaker 2>running style, real patience behind the line of scrimmage, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he explodes through the second level and he's another

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<v Speaker 2>guy that's physical, like he's gonna make you make a

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<v Speaker 2>business decision in that secondary. So they got two backs

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<v Speaker 2>that are different than what's currently on their roster. Not

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<v Speaker 2>that Breesehall can't be a physical back, but when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at him and i Isy Abandoned County, you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about guys that have the top end speed that can

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<v Speaker 2>really take it the distance. These two guys are more physical, right,

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna get you those gritty yards that you need.

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<v Speaker 1>We Breeshall is dangerous and open field. He was hurt

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<v Speaker 1>in defensive backs last year. The other thing about Davis

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<v Speaker 1>that is quite surprising, and you could add some color

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<v Speaker 1>here since you've seen him in person, is that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been told the guy is a really good special teams player,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was shocked by that because just looking at

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<v Speaker 1>his stats and his numbers, I thought there'd be no

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<v Speaker 1>time for him to play.

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<v Speaker 2>No time for special team. But that's that's a really

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<v Speaker 2>well run South Dakota State team. Right. They actually had

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<v Speaker 2>I believe two Offton Liman, Mason McCormick and Field get

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<v Speaker 2>drafted as well. They actually had two receivers that then

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<v Speaker 2>go free agents. They're twin brothers and Yankee brothers. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is a program that you know, even though it's FCS,

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<v Speaker 2>it's ran like an FBS, right, and guys go there

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<v Speaker 2>and developed really well. We talked about Pierre Strong, he

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<v Speaker 2>was a high draft pick or a fourth rounder I

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<v Speaker 2>believe for the Patriots, then got traded to the Cleveland Browns.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's not forget Dallas Goddard was another guy that

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<v Speaker 2>was there as well. So they developed players really well,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had a corner going the seventh round. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is a program that developed got developed, develops guys

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<v Speaker 2>really well, and they understand what it takes to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the next level. So a lot of those skill

0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.199
<v Speaker 2>position players, they're special teams aces on that team, like

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<v Speaker 2>some of their best players are their best special teams players.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a program. Again, if you're not fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 2>to go FBS and you can get a scholarship and

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<v Speaker 2>go to FCS, that's the school you should look at

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<v Speaker 2>because they're gonna get you prepared for the next level.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I like about Allen he's twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the youngest player in the draft class.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very young, so a lot of upside there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And one thing he does really well too is protection,

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<v Speaker 2>and we know that's a big thing for rookie quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>coming into the league. You got to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>fit it up there and protect to protect the run quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>but you also got to know what you're doing back there.

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<v Speaker 2>Ea right when line slides, you got to know if

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<v Speaker 2>you got a guy up in the middle, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a guy off the edge. You have to know these

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<v Speaker 2>things and that's the big thing for Aaron Rodgers. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to have a back in the backfield unless

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<v Speaker 2>they know what they're doing protection wise. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>Brydlon Allen coming in as a guy that's proven at Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows the protections. He knows he can stick it

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<v Speaker 2>up there, and we know he's a bigger back to EA.

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<v Speaker 2>So the physicalness and contact he's not going to shy

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<v Speaker 2>away from. He's gonna fit it up with linebackers blitzing

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<v Speaker 2>up the middle. So I think that gives him a

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<v Speaker 2>nice edge too. In regards to maybe seeing the field

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<v Speaker 2>this year, with.

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<v Speaker 1>All the player acquisitions on the offensive side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>are you seeing a change of mindset from the Jets?

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<v Speaker 1>Not that they were a finets team before on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive side, but I'm just thinking physical talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I love what you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you when you're talking about John Simpson and

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<v Speaker 1>then you try you bring Morgan back here, and you

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<v Speaker 1>got Tyron Smith, and then you get for Shadow and

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<v Speaker 1>none you come and get Corley, and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>these two big, burly backs who were just really good

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<v Speaker 1>after contact and they want to just run through you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think that a mindset change is underway

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<v Speaker 1>in a big, big time way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you brought that up, BA, because when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at this team and you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>personnel that's been added, and you look at kind of

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<v Speaker 2>how they finished the season. When you go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Denver Broncos game, you go to the Patriots game. This

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<v Speaker 2>team by nature and then Daniel Hackett and where he

0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:48.360
<v Speaker 2>came from. The Little floor Tree is a zone based team.

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<v Speaker 2>But they started playing and running more gap scheme. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at the guys they brought in, John

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<v Speaker 2>Simpson was one of the best pulling guards in football

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<v Speaker 2>last year. Morgan Moses is one of the best run

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.000
<v Speaker 2>blocking tackles in all of football. You talked about the

0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.920
<v Speaker 2>physical backs they brought in. Braylan Allen is a good

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<v Speaker 2>scap gap scheme back. You got a patient running back

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<v Speaker 2>in Isaiah Davis who's a physical back as well. Could

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<v Speaker 2>we see a philosophy change this year, ea in seat

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<v Speaker 2>of running more zone, running, more gap scheme, where you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get double teams, guardpool, more physical runs. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Robert Salaz, a defensive coach, would love that, right

0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 2>and the personnel kind of measures up to that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't wait to see that. And then you

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:28.919
<v Speaker 2>talk about having a guy like Jeremy Rutger who will

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<v Speaker 2>rip your face off in the run game as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think this team will play a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll still have the split zone in there, obviously, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're gonna see a little bit more gap

0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 2>scheme with this team as well.

0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.639
<v Speaker 1>And Aaron Rodgers is one of the best players in

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the history of this game. But he's also an exceptional

0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:50.560
<v Speaker 1>play action passer correct and he knows obviously when to

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>exploit matchups. And you add a were we have a

0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 1>punishing style running game. You got Rogers, who is so

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<v Speaker 1>gif did as far as looking at the defense and saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I know where I have my strengths in the formation here.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get Corey into the mix where hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get him the ball five six times a game,

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<v Speaker 1>and hey, he watch you out defensive backs because he's

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<v Speaker 1>coming after you. Garrett Wilson's gonna get more space, you

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<v Speaker 1>like the tight end room. I don't know, man, I'm

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.600
<v Speaker 1>excited about what this offense potentially could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if you just look on paper. We've

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<v Speaker 2>stated this before eight being on paper means absolutely nothing, right,

0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:32.520
<v Speaker 2>you got to go out there and do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>just on paper, this is one of the most complete

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<v Speaker 2>rosters in the NFL. And it's not me being a Homer.

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I guarantee most people would agree with that as well.

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:44.160
<v Speaker 2>When you talk about a championship type defense that added

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<v Speaker 2>the caliber player that Hassan Reddick is like, who was

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<v Speaker 2>in the running for Defensive Player of the Year. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you look at Aaron Rodgers potentially coming back.

0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 2>You add a perennial All Pro tackle and timern Smith

0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 2>an iron man tackle, and Morgan Moses. You get Olu

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:03.439
<v Speaker 2>for Shannu. Right, you get the yacht King and Malachi Corley.

0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.400
<v Speaker 2>You got Mike Williams, who was one of the best

0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.879
<v Speaker 2>contested fifty to fifty jump receivers in the NFL. And

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Garrett Wilson, who is just one of the best all

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.679
<v Speaker 2>around young receivers in the game. And let's not forget

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Reese Hall is going to make this all come together, right,

0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 2>He's one of the best pure playmakers in the NFL.

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Like again, on paper, it's just one of the most

0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 2>complete rosters. But again it has to be done on

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the field.

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Travis, we knew the Jets were going to go

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 1>young quarterback. They go the Florida State Pass or there

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:34.760
<v Speaker 1>in round five. That was a trade up. Joe Douglas

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to wait any longer, so he sends a

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.720
<v Speaker 1>pair of picks to the Eagles. What can you say

0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:44.600
<v Speaker 1>about his journey and also what do you like about

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:45.399
<v Speaker 1>this acquisition?

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, when you look at it, besides Jaden Daniels, EA,

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I would say Jordan Travis probably had the best ascension

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 2>at quarterback besides Jaden Daniels, and we're talking about growth

0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:00.719
<v Speaker 2>from the quarterback position. Was the best in the ACC

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 2>last year, which says a lot when you've got a

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.399
<v Speaker 2>guy that goes number three overaw In Drake May from

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.360
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. Jordan Travis was the best player in that conference.

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.199
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think anybody could even question that. Like,

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 2>we saw what he meant to that Florida State team

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.680
<v Speaker 2>and him not being there left them out of the

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 2>college football playoffs, right That lets you know how important

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.640
<v Speaker 2>he was to that team. Really grow, grew as a passer,

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:26.159
<v Speaker 2>really good touch passer, doesn't have the strongest arms, tough,

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 2>competitive guy when he does put his foot in the

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.879
<v Speaker 2>ground and run, very dynamic in the open space running

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>the football, and he's comfortable throwing on the run. And

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing about him and why this

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.719
<v Speaker 2>staff really loves him, he's just competitive. He's really competitive

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.879
<v Speaker 2>in regards to like just leaving it all there on

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 2>the line to win games. That's what Jordan Travis does.

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 2>I asks a lot of them at the line of

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 2>scrimmage last year at Florida steps at Florida State in

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 2>regards to techs and getting them in the right place.

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 2>So you love that extension in this game as well,

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.640
<v Speaker 2>because we see so many times in college football where

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, these quarterbacks looked to the sideline, and he

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:04.439
<v Speaker 2>did some of that as well, but a lot of

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 2>it was on him to make sure people were in

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 2>the right positions at Florida State. So again, you're right,

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.439
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was probably higher on Michael Pratt for

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the Jets, but I could see why they went Jordan

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Travis and he guess a great red shirt year to

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 2>learn by two consummate pros, and Tyrod Taylor and Aaron Rodgers.

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, who better to learn from as you grow

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.120
<v Speaker 2>and develop as a young quarterback.

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>He actually started his career at Louisville, Like you said,

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 1>his ascension at Florida State was really something else. And

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Mike Norvell when he went to Florida State kept him

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and he became the face of that team. And last

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>year twenty touchdowns, two interceptions football, that's really good. Decision making,

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>did he throw better with anticipation as his career progressed,

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and also can you talk about his movement skills. Unfortunately

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>he went down against North Alabama. You feel so bad

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>for Florida's State, the program that they couldn't compete for

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>a national championship, but also the person Jordan Travis and

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 1>everything he had been through to get to that point.

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Because Florida State struggled for a while and then Norwalk

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>comes in and they take all these massive steps and

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Travis is right here and he goes down. He's

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:24.719
<v Speaker 1>not able, but talk about his evolution as a passer

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 1>thrown with anticipation, and also can he be a dual

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.400
<v Speaker 1>threat on this level as well? Eventually?

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say going into two years ago, I

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 2>would say there was no way he was able to

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 2>play quarterback at the next level. That's the type of

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 2>extension he's had. Now. He still needs to work on

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 2>some of those anticipation throws that you were talking about.

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't throw with great anticipation, but again, he's gotten better

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 2>in that aspect, and he's gotten better with his touch throws.

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 2>And I talked about him being a touch throw doesn't

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 2>have the biggest arm in the world as far as

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 2>downfield throws. But he can make every throw that you

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>need him to make. And we talked about it, or

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 2>you alluded to his playmaking ability, right, I would say

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 2>two years ago, first Reely wasn't there. He would take off.

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:08.919
<v Speaker 2>You saw the growth in the pocket this year, and

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 2>that's the most important thing for a young quarterback to

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 2>sit in there, go through your progressions and then if

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>nothing's there, take off where before it was all right,

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 2>first reason not there, I'm taking off because this is

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>what I'm going to rely on my athletic ability. We

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 2>really saw him grow in the last two years when

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 2>it comes to that and the thing about him, we

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 2>talked about him being competitive. There were rumors like when

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 2>he first got there and when Norvale first got there,

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 2>that he wasn't going to be the guy. Right he

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:37.880
<v Speaker 2>was in the competition, he was starting, and he wasn't starting.

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>But you love the attitude did not transfer right to

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 2>stick it out, fight through adversity and lay it on

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the line for your brothers and your teammates and continue

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 2>to grow. I think too many times in today's society, guys,

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 2>if they don't get their way, they're willing to just

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 2>quit or go somewhere else in the transfer portal. I

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 2>think there's something to be said for Jordan Travis for

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 2>sticking it out when he got to Florida, when maybe

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Mike Norvel didn't always believe in him in the beginning.

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 2>He earned that trust and he earned the trust of

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>his teammates. And then when you hear people talk about him,

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I think I talked to Jermaine about him just glowing reviews.

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 2>They love this kid, They love what his makeup is,

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 2>they love what he's all about. So I think from

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 2>that standpoint, he fits in perfectly with the just and

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 2>what they're trying to build rite the attitude that he

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 2>plays with, right, the type of player he is, and

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the human being that he is. Right. So he's been tested,

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 2>he's been through adversity, he's come out on the other side,

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 2>and like I said, he who better to learn from

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 2>than Aaron Rodgers and Tyrod Taylor is you're trying to

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>develop in the NFL.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a great situation for him. So let's go

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>to the sixth round quants as stakes. First off, did

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>you know that you could actually draft Canadian Football League players?

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought the guy was going to be a free agent.

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I didn't know that until this year when he

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:54.479
<v Speaker 2>was in the West game and my guy turn out

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 2>to my guy, Imrie Hunt, he put me on to him.

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 2>He was like yo, he was like, dudes, you got

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>to watch this kid from the CFL. He was like,

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 2>he's different, He's ready. And when I got on that

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>tape from the East West game, I was like, Oho,

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 2>old stick Oh, Quanta Stickers can play some football. I mean,

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 2>we'll probably talk about his story in a little bit,

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>but just a football player alone. EA, when you can

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>play in Canada, you can play in the NFL because

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 2>you got to understand the fields. Bigger those receivers get

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 2>a running start coming at you. So Stickers has proven

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 2>he can play and man, he can play off man

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 2>and I think, honestly, the Jets might even try him

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 2>at safety. EA. I think that, Yeah, where's the transition. Yeah,

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I think on this team that'll be a transition for him.

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>The thing is, we talked about his EA like, corner

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>was a sneaky need for this team. So could they

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 2>potentially keep him at corner because let's not forget three

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>of our top four corners are going to be free

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 2>agents next year. When you talk about Brandon Neckles, talk

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 2>about DJ Reid, you talk about Michael Carter the second

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 2>which hopefully one of those guys get an extension before

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the season starts, because you would like to have some

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 2>continuity coming back in that unit because it's one of

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the best units in all of football.

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, Carter's extension eligible after next season too, right, He's

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>able to get a new.

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Deal as well, so decisions are going to have to

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 2>be made. So that's why when me and you were talking,

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, corner on a low is a sneaky

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>need for this team. So I could see where they

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe try him at safety this year and then put

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>him back at corner, or they cross training where you

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>know a lot of guys do that where they play

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 2>corner and safety, just because you know you only go

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>into the game with three safety sometimes and somebody goes down,

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 2>somebody got to be able to come in and play.

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I think he'll be that guy that's the cross guy

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>that plays corner in safety for the Jets, just because

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>he has experienced playing both.

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Quanta, you were a guy who was undrafted. You tweeted

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>about Day three and how much you liked those stories stiggers.

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>This story's wild.

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Man, amazing staging, amazing story. It's like for a guy

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 2>who was supposed to go to Land College coming out

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 2>his dad unfortunately passed. He wanted to help his mom

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 2>out started delivering food as a food service delivery guy.

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 2>I believe, Hea, it's either he has thirteen siblings or

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>he's one of thirteen siblings and wanted to help out

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 2>his mom. But this is how you know, like his family,

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 2>his mom is special because she knew what his dream was, right.

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 2>She signs him up for fan Control football, which was

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 2>a new thing at the time. Yeah, right, just so

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>he could play football. And he goes out there and

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe has five and five or six interceptions. Thea

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>one scout from the CFL gets his tape and they're

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 2>able to see his tape and they sign him. Not

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 2>only does he go to Canada, EA, he becomes Rookie

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 2>of the Year and has five inners. You talk about

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>a crazy story and like a story of determination and

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>not giving up on your dream even though you've been

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 2>through so many, so much adversity and obstacles, but to

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 2>have the staying power to continue to fight for what

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 2>you want, like you root for guys like quantest stickers,

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 2>like you're praying that he does well, because most people

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>would have quit, literally, most people would have quit. They

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>would have been like, you know, why is this always

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>happening to me? But that never happened with this kid.

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 2>He stayed to it, kept his head down, kept working,

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 2>had his family love and support, and look where he's

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 2>at now in the NFL and didn't play college football.

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Just to echo your sentiments there, the Jets clearly loved him.

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>You watch those phone calls on draft weekends throughout the

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>day Football League so.

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Fun teers in my damn eyes.

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Ulbrick gets on the line, he's in tears. He's

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>a Jets defensive coordinator. Later it's past to to and

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to so beloved Tony and the cornerbacks coach here and

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Bobby BISTROTI that had a.

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Security you know, that's my guy, man. And when Bobby

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>got on the phone and almost lost it, that's when

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I lost it. Yeah, That's when I lost it. Yeah.

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh, So bring people on the inside, man, you worked there,

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you've worked here. What kind of figure is Bobby inside?

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>This organized? For fans who just watching that clip.

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Bobby's the guy. If you don't know, Bobby's our

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 2>head security guy. Bobby has been putting it down for years.

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 2>He was there when he was there before I was

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>a player. He was there, well I was a player,

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 2>he was there as I came in as a broadcaster.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 2>He's my guy, and Bobby means a lot to me.

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Me and Bobby have a really good relationship. And for

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 2>your security guy and Bobby, I think said he only

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>spent like fifteen minutes with him in the meeting when

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 2>he came on a visit, and like it was such

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 2>an impactful meeting that you rarely see the security guy

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>get on the phone on draft day when somebody makes calls.

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.959
<v Speaker 2>That lets you know what type of guy contest Stickers is.

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 2>When Bobby was like, coach, I need to talk to

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 2>this kid, Like everybody in that room wanted to talk

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 2>to this kid. That lets you know how special he

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>truly is. And I'm so glad he's with the Jets

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>because again, the adversity and things that he went through.

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a common theme, right, we just talked about Jordan Travis.

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Now he didn't go through what Stickers went through, obviously,

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 2>but he did injury wise, and he did, you know,

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 2>mental wise as far as maybe having some self doubt

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>at times when he was in college. The Jets wanted

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 2>to get guys that were mentally strong, and I love

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 2>that if you can be mentally strong, the physical is nothing. Ea,

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>like we're all physically gifted. It's the mental that usually

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 2>separates where the guys last in the NFL or not.

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Full disclosure, Bobby's one of my closest friends. We shared

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>an office together way back in the Hofstra days.

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that.

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah, so we go always back. I

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>mean listen, Yeah, that was a great moment. It's a

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>cool moment. And I also was quite pleased to see

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Michael Carter the second was one of the first guys

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>on social media to say be pumped up about the

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>move because he trains with stickers. So that's a cool

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>connection already.

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, So let's go to mister irrelevant, mister Key from Alabama.

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:08.240
<v Speaker 1>What what should we know about him? And also how

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>does he potentially try to make this roster?

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Jalen Keys rode to the roster. It's

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>probably going to be on special team. Now he does

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>have the opportunities more of the in the box guy.

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 2>I think he does have an opportunity to if he

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.320
<v Speaker 2>develops really well, ea potentially pushed to be a third

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 2>safety on this team. Again, Chuck Clark's coming off of

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 2>a major injury. You would think he's going to be

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 2>healthy because it happened so early during the training cramp process.

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Ashton Davis comes back. Tony Adams is in that building,

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:40.760
<v Speaker 2>so too, had too and the rest of the staff.

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Auberg, they had glowing reviews about him as well.

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 2>So this is a player like again, I think they

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>even said it on Twitter, like, even though you're the

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>last pick, you're the most important pick, You're not mystery

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.720
<v Speaker 2>irrelevant to us, right, So, like, this is a player

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>that you know in past years, mystery relevant has had

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 2>a hard time making the you know, besides brock Perty,

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 2>usually that last pick in the draft has struggled to

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 2>make the team. A lot of times the guy makes

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 2>either practice squad or doesn't make the roster. I remember

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Grant Stewart from Tampa Bay. He made the team too.

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 2>He was a special team's ace for the Bucks that

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 2>I think he got traded to the Patriots. If I'm

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 2>not mistaken, so like it's it's usually a hard road

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>for mister Relevant, but I think this kid actually has

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 2>a real chance. It's gonna start in special teams though

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 2>for him to actually make the team.

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Man, a lot of cool stories for the Jets this draft.

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I think fans are really going to gravitate towards Malchai Corley,

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Travis in Quantiz Stiggers. I mean, it's just the

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>backstories of what they had to do to get to

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 1>the spot. But all in all, it all starts with

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Olu Fashionu.

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 2>So it does. But before we get out of there, i't'

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.479
<v Speaker 2>about to get here, Cya. I want to talk about

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 2>some undrafted free agents. Come on, man, you can't have

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 2>me in here as an undrafted free agent and think

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to talk about some undrafted free agentcy.

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, officially, listen, the podcast is going out before these

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>guys actually signed. So I got a preface by saying

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>it looks like the Jets have agreed to terms with

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a number of guys. Nothing is official until they signed.

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, the floors, two guys, two guys, and of

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 2>course I'm going to the D line. We'll start with

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 2>Leonard Taylor, and then I'll talk about my favorite tign

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 2>together Jets after that. Leonard Taylor, guy that a lot

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 2>of people had going in like the fourth or fifth round.

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>His twenty twenty two tape was a lot better. Was

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 2>a guy that could give you some of that interior

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 2>pass rush. I thought this year he kind of played

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>out of position. Sometimes they had him over the center,

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and he played with high pad level as well, which

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 2>I think really hurt him in his development. But for

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a guy that a lot of people had maybe going

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 2>in the fourth, fifth, sixth round, I had the more

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 2>than a sixth round guy. I think that's great value

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 2>to get him in as he undrafted free agent. But

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 2>my favorite potential, again, like you said, because these signings

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 2>haven't become official yet, my favorite potential signing for the

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Jets is Braden McGregor out of Michigan. I mean, the

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Justs just lost John Franklin Myers in the trade to

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 2>the Denver Broncos. Brandan McGregor has a similar game to

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 2>John Franklin Monins. He's a guy that a lot of

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.919
<v Speaker 2>people kind of didn't know where he would pinch Lynn

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:21.839
<v Speaker 2>at because he's a big defensive end. He's like two

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 2>seventy two seventy five. But he also showed in that

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 2>game versus Alabama he can rush inside. He had two

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 2>sacks in that game. So that's why I say the

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 2>comparison to John Franklin Myers, who who is a one

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 2>of probably the best run edge guy we had on

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 2>our team. But he also brought that grittiness right. He

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 2>was the unsung hero of the defense. He was able

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>to slide and slide and rush on third down. I

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 2>think Braden McGregor gives you some of that as well.

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 2>So honestly, I had him as a fourth round pick,

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>so I was surprised he didn't get drafted. That's that's

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 2>a major for the just to get him.

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>So we're circling McGregor. You think he's got a real

0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>chance here.

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I think he has a chance to make the team. Yeah,

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>You just talked about it, the thoughts on John frank

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:10.479
<v Speaker 1>Lamyer's being sent to Denver, and did you feel this

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>was inevitable after the Jets acquired his son Reddick.

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I hated it, but I kind of knew.

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I actually taught to JF and when it happened, okay,

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I told him, you know, because that's

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 2>my guy. If anybody knows, that's my guy. So I

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.240
<v Speaker 2>was just like, this is the part of the business

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 2>that I hate. Right, We kind of knew that something

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 2>was going to happen. This was going to come down

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 2>the pike, just because you know, Jermaine had an extension

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 2>right pro Bowl player, so you would think he's going

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 2>to start. You trade for a son Reddick, He's starting, right.

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>It's different than like when he played in Philly because

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 2>they kind of ran a hybrid three four where the

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Jets predominantly run a four to three.

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Right, really quickly estimate this from me. I'm cutting you

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:57.959
<v Speaker 1>off here. Reddick played seventy four percent of snaps each

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>of the last two seasons Philadelphia. You think that probably

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>goes down a little bit here the way?

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 2>No, you still, yeah, I know the way that Jets play,

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 2>but I just know how Hassan Reddick is. He's not

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna be one that's gonna want to come off the field, okay, right.

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>So like so with that being said, that even makes

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>it more clear why je.

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 2>And I think that was part not just the money,

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 2>but I think that was part of it as well.

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Like a son Reddick is a guy that usually doesn't

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 2>miss games or miss snaps, so he's on the field,

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 2>like you said, seventy four percent of the time. And

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 2>then also you saw the extension, the ascension of Jermaine,

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 2>you would think his you know, play time would go

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 2>up as well this year as well. So like he

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 2>caught us all the writing on the wall, wish him

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>nothing but the best. Again, that's my guy, So I

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 2>told him, this is the part of the business that

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I hate. And I know this coaching staff didn't want

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:53.280
<v Speaker 2>to make that move, but you know, with the cap

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and everything else, and then some of the things that

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>we just stated about how Hassan Redick doesn't come off

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 2>the field, you kind of knew this was, I mean,

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 2>down the.

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Pipe thirty seconds. What's the counter on the edge as

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>far as now teams are going to try to attack

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you without JFM there as far as running football.

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Correct, So I mean, Jermaine was already a really good

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>run stopping defensive end. So I mean and asn Reddick

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>is under the radar, really good guy steadying me edge

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 2>right and forcing the ball back inside. So I think

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Michael Clemens is going to have to step up this year. Also,

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 2>we took another guy in the first round and Will.

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:29.919
<v Speaker 2>Will's going to have to have a big year as well.

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 2>And I think this coaching staff is looking at Jermaine

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 2>and saw how he was able to develop and have

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.919
<v Speaker 2>a really good second year. They're hoping that Will does

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 2>the same thing this year as well. So I think

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Braden McGregor could be a sleeper too in regards to

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:44.879
<v Speaker 2>that as well. He's a guy I think Jet fans

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 2>should keep their eye on.

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Well man, I've had a blast with our draft coverage.

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Sure, it's been great.

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you set us up well prior to

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the draft and now you're taking us home after draft weekend.

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you think five years down the line, how

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>is this class going to be remembered.

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm stilling Carolina this earlier today. I think when you

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 2>look at Olu and my comment for him was a

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.240
<v Speaker 2>guy that man on the left side for the Jets

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 2>for a long time and never missed any time and

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 2>the Brigershoff Ferguson, I think he him alone will make

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 2>this a really good draft class, right because I think

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 2>he is going to be the Jets left tackle by

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 2>his skill set for the next ten to fifteen years.

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I honestly do believe that. I think he's that good, right,

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I think he could be that special. So when you

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 2>look at this draft class, it's all going to be

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 2>about what the first round pick is right now. The

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 2>other guys are important as well, and I think Stickers

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 2>has a chance to stick around. I think Corley, if

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 2>he keeps developing with his ROUNDE running, has a chance

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 2>to stick around as well. But it's all going to

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.760
<v Speaker 2>be started with Olu Fashionu and his development at left tackle.

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Love it, brother, you have a good day and get

0:41:58.480 --> 0:41:58.879
<v Speaker 1>some rust.

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it. Yeah, h