1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the official Jets podcast, Eric on here at 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: one Jets Drive, joined by Lejayduza bolt Well, the twenty 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: twenty four NFL draft came and went you what is 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: your thirty thousand foot observation of what the Jets did? 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: Very solid draft, Okaya, A lot of position of needs 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: were filled, right And I know people will look at 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: that first pick, and I know we're going to go 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: pick by pick, but I thought it was a home 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: run pick, the OLU fashion New pick. Just when you 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: look at you know where they got him at, where 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: he can come into a situation where he's learning behind 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: an all pro and a consummate pro, one being Tyron Smith, 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: the other being Morgan Moses. And then let's not also 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: forget when you look at Morgan Moses's deal, essentially that 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: equates to a swing tackle deal, kind of like in 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: the twenty one season when he came to the Jets. 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: So if Oulu, you know, develops faster than the Jets 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: think you will, there's a good chance e a that 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: who's playing a lot sooner than people think. 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: Hmmm, very interesting. Okay, so let's stick there with the 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: big Penn State tackle. He has played left on the 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: left side all the way since high school. What would 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: the transition be for him as far as lining up 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: on the right side. 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. It's literally I've talked to a few 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: offensive linemen EA, and they say it's like doing everything backwards, 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: like tying one hand behind your back, because you have to. 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Your brain function has to switch everything right from your 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: plant leg to your kick leg and everything so to 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: your punch hand. All that is opposite when you switch 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: from one side to the other. So it's not as 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: easy as people think. And the thing about it is, 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: I love Timon Smith, but ea, we've seen a history 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: of him not being able to complete seventeen game seasons. 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: So that's that's the tricky thing for this Jets coaching 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: staff in regards to Olu Fashionu like, when you're developing him, 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: do you just keep him at left for the future 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: and just in case Tyers Smith goes down or do 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: you cross train him that way? He's the swing guy 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: and he can go in if anybody goes down at 41 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: right or left tackle. So that's that's the tidbit that 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to find out what the plan is 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: going to be going forward. 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: A lot dude, you could see it going either way, right, 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: because there are there are arguments on both sides there 46 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: that make a lot of sense. 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely, there's an argument that you just want to, 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: you know, bring him in and just keep him and 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: plant him at left tackle because we kind of know 50 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: what the timer Smith is going to be a one 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: year thing. You took Olu at pick eleven, so he's 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: going to be the tackle of the future. Or because 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: you want to get the best players out on the field, 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: you cross train him right and in case somebody goes down, 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: say Morgan Moses goes down, knock on wood, because that's 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: one thing he usually doesn't do is miss games, right, 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: he's an iron man. But just in case, you know, 58 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: you have him cross trains to go in at right 59 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: tackle as well. So that's that's the caveat to this, 60 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: this whole puzzle and put and get together for this 61 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: coaching staff. Do we just plant him at left tackle 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: or do we cross train him? 63 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, We're gonna love to see how that actually unfolds. 64 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers even mentioned him possibly playing guard. I don't 65 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: see that. 66 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: What you what do you think about that? Listen? 67 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers brilliant dude. I think he was probably just 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: raving about his athletic ability. I think my take on 69 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: that is probably, hey, he's gonna yeah right. Uh, what 70 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: about the way the board actually fell before the Jets 71 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: went on the clock at ten? Uh, we knew there 72 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: was going to be a run on offensive players, and 73 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: there certainly was. But what did you think about the 74 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: Jets options at ten and also the possibility of moving 75 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: off before that? 76 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? And it's crazy because when we did this mock, 77 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: I literally put us in the scenario that happened on 78 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: uh you throughout the draft. I made it nice as 79 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: hard as possible. I put it where there was going 80 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: to be a run on so many offensive players that 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: the Jets would have to trade up to potentially eight 82 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: to get to get Roma Dounze. But in ours I 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: stayed patent to you know, Troy Fontanu because Rome went 84 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: at nine, just like he did in real life. So 85 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: I think I would not be surprised if Joe d 86 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: actually did reach out to Atlanta. I just think Atlanta 87 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: was staying pat I was one of the few people 88 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: that heard, you know, and got wind of the rumors 89 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: that they could take Michael Pennick Jr. Actually had a 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: podcast that do for CBS. I stated it on that 91 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: Tuesday that do not be surprised that Atlanta Falcons be 92 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: a sneaky team to take a quarterback and that quarterback 93 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: be Michael Penick Junr. Just because I heard ea that 94 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: they flew out in the extensive work on him. I 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: know a lot of people didn't see that happening, them 96 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: taking a quarterback at eight just because they paid Kurt 97 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: co Chain's a bowload of money. But that kind of 98 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: like threw the draft a little bit into tailspind because 99 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: even if Joe D reaches out to Atlanta, I heard 100 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: rumors that three other teams were trying to trade in 101 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: the top ten to get Michael Pennick Junior. So Atlanta 102 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: was never leaving off of eight. So I think Joe 103 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: D did what he could, and I love that he 104 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: was able to trade back just one spot and pick 105 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: up some draft capital. So kudos to him, you know, 106 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: for being smart and tactical in that situation and being 107 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: able to pick up a few extra pigs by moving 108 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: back just one spot. 109 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: So credit goes to you because you've got high on 110 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: panics throughout the scouting process. You thought people were sleeping 111 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: on him, and that comes to fruition on Thursday night, 112 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Round one of the draft, where he goes eight overall 113 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: great six six quarterbacks taken in the top twelve selections, 114 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: too rich. 115 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: I never would have saw that. I would have never 116 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: saw that. I'm not even gonna like to Denver. I 117 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: had to talk to a few people, and I knew 118 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: that Sean Payne and and the Denver Brash were high 119 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: on Nicks. I thought it was a scenario where they 120 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: would try to trade back and maybe get him at 121 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: the end of the first at worse. But I think 122 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: there was a scenario where they were kind of pigeonholed 123 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: just because of the way the draft fell, and maybe 124 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: not too many people wanted to move up. Kind of 125 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 2: surprised some teams didn't try to move up and get 126 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: a fatanu. He fell all the way to I believe 127 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: what twenty EA, which was a surprise. I did not 128 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: see that happening in the draft. So maybe Denver did 129 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: make some calls and nobody was willing to move up, 130 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: and maybe they just didn't feel comfortable dropping back too 131 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: far because they knew the Raiders were there at thirteen 132 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: it could they potentially have taken both knicks, so they 133 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: ended up getting their quarterback of the future. To me, 134 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: little rich like you were saying, I didn't see twelve 135 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: quarterback I mean six quarterbacks going in the first twelve picks. 136 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: I mean that's literally fifty percent of the draft going 137 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: in the first twelve picks was quarterbacks. Like, when does 138 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: that ever happen? All right? 139 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: What does it say about the state of the National 140 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: Football League that the first fourteen picks in the two 141 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: thoy twenty four NFL Draft we're all offensive players And 142 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: as a former defense alignment, are you pissed? 143 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 2: Of course I'm pissed. It's disgusting and lets you know it. 144 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: Lets you know the thought process of the NFL right now, 145 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: right it's the offensive base league. And more so, I 146 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: think teams are looking at it as if, yeah, I 147 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback, I have no chance, right because 148 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would have penciled six quarterbacks in 149 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: the first twelve And you stated it. The first defensive 150 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: player was like Atsu Latsu. He didn't go to pick fifteen, 151 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: So almost halfway through the draft that was when the 152 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: first defensive player came, which is unheard of. I think 153 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: the longest and recent memory was like seven picks right 154 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: before a defensive player had been taken. So you're talking 155 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: about double that before a defensive player was taken. So 156 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: I just think it's it shows you the way the 157 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: NFL is trending. Offensive base league. The old school, you know, 158 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: defensive wins championships, ya is here no more. 159 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is it from a Jets perspective, 160 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: it made sense that they were going to offensive player because, yeah, 161 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: they have a very good defense. Correct, that might be 162 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: elite if a couple things here this year, and on paper, 163 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a better unit than last year. Bowl. 164 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: We'll get to that here in a couple moments. But 165 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: we knew all along that, hey, it's either going to 166 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: be tackle or receiver. And you weren't surprised at all 167 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: that Douglas did not take brock Powers. 168 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: Nope, not at all. And I've read some things and 169 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: talked to a few people, and I don't even think 170 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: it was a consideration for the Jets. Ea, You've heard 171 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: me say multiple times, I love this tight end room 172 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: the Jets have. We talk about Tyler Conklin, Jeremy Rucker 173 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: and I think Joe Douglas spoke to that as well, 174 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: and also Robert Sala. They love that tight end room 175 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: as well. And you talk about Zach Koons, a developmental 176 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: guy that they took in the seventh who has another 177 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: year under his belt, you would think the development would 178 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: be there also with Kenny Yoboa. But those two top 179 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: guys I think are sure fired really good players. When 180 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: you talk about Tyler Conklin and Jeremy ruckerds so to me, again, 181 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: you can say what you want about Brock Bowers, and 182 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: again I like brock Brows as a player. Yeah, well, 183 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: positional value is a real thing. You could say he's 184 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: a weapon X and all this, and that he's still 185 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: a tight end at the end of the day. And 186 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: you know, obviously the Raiders when they got to their pick, 187 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: even though they took Michael Mayer last year, they decided, 188 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: you know, he was so high on our board, let's 189 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: go ahead and grab him. I still thought that was 190 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: a little rich, even for him at thirteen. But I 191 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: love what the gestat and not getting Rock Bowers, not 192 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: to say he's not a good player. I just think 193 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: tackle made a lot more sense for the New York Jets. 194 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Is it possible that fashion Neu has a higher ceiling 195 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: than Joe Wald too went number five overall to the Chargers. 196 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: He has the highest ceiling in this draft at offensive tackle. 197 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: I don't even think it's close. When you talk about 198 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: a guy that has the arm length that he has, 199 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: the lower body strength that he has, how he's able 200 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: to move people off the football. Now, a lot of 201 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: people will say in that Ohio State game, he got 202 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: beat with some power, but he still didn't give up 203 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: a sack in that game. So when you look at it, 204 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, as long as your 205 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: quarterback doesn't get sacked, you did your job as an 206 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: offensive tackle. So he's going to get stronger. He's already 207 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: got great lower body strengths. I saw he was working 208 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: out with Duke out there in Texas and I saw 209 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 2: some of those dead lift in the Lord's an. He's 210 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 2: he's a unit. Now, he's a unit. So he's only 211 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: going to get stronger. 212 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Dude, if he's working out at the gym and I 213 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: walk in, I'm going to do some cardio. 214 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: I'll be back to lift waights later. 215 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: So Day two, the Jets had to wait a little bit. 216 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas. Uh, not afraid to trade on Draft weekend 217 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: six in all four trade downs. 218 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, we'll get into Malachi. But I literally 219 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: thought on day three, I'm like, are the Jets ever 220 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: gonna pick the eight? Like every time we were up, 221 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: it was a trade back, trade down, trade back, trade back. 222 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: But get it into Corley. This was a guy that 223 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: the Jets were extremely high on, right. You know, they 224 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: got to see him out there at the Senior Bowl 225 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: and you saw the text message that went viral right 226 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: between Joe d and Robert Sala Malachi Coraley no matter what, 227 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: right little Draft day homage right there. Respect to that 228 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: movie and. 229 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: The way Ethan interviewed him on Ethan Greenbergy after the truck. 230 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: I saw that and al said he loved the movie 231 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: but hated it. 232 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 2: Does No GM probably likes that movie, man. No GM 233 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: probably likes that movie. When you talk about Melicai Corley 234 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: and what he refits in with the Jets, I think 235 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: the Jets were high on him than a lot of 236 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: other than more than other teams three. There's rumors. There's 237 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: rumors that he was number four after the Big Three 238 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: on their list, which I could see why when you 239 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: look at the way he plays, it kind of fits 240 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: the mantra of all gas no breaks that Robert Salah has. 241 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: He is a guy that you just got to get 242 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: the ball in space. They call him the yacht king, 243 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: right because yards after contact are big for him, or 244 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: yards after I say yards after contact. For him it's 245 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: yards after contact, but that means yards after catch, but 246 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: for Melica it's yards after contact. Because he's a guy 247 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: that's no fair dodging. I mean, this guy put up 248 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: two twenty five, twenty seven times. That's what d Lineman 249 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: put up, right. So you see the strength in the body. 250 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: You see it on film constantly, him just shrugging guys off, 251 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: running through guys. He's one of those guys that he's 252 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: gonna make defensive backs make business decisions ea. And he's 253 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: a guy where you just get the ball to him 254 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: and on screens, on crossing patterns, you know, speed sweeps, 255 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: and just let him go. He has a different skill 256 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: set than any other receiver in that room. So that's 257 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: why I think he fits in really well. He's a 258 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: guy that's probably gonna get five to six touches a 259 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: game where they just get him the ball in space 260 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: and just let him go. 261 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting the way he was used at Western Kentucky. 262 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: Do you take a similar approach at the next level 263 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: with the Jets and specifically this offense. 264 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure as he develops his route tree, because 265 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: it was a big question mark for him. You know, 266 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: how diverse was his route tree? And I think at 267 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl he showed pretty well. Right, there's a 268 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: clip I remember him going one on one with Queen 269 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: Ya Mitchell, who to me was the number one quarter 270 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: you know, stemmed them outside and beat them inside, and 271 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, let's growth right there in this 272 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: rap development. That's something that the Jets can work on. 273 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: But I think for his rookie year, you have a 274 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: plan in place for him where you just get him 275 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: the ball, similar to what Western Kentucky did and just 276 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: let him go. 277 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: Man, how unique is it the way he runs after 278 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: the catch. I know, hey, listen, I hate putting pro 279 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: comps on guys. 280 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: But I know where you're going. I know where you're going. 281 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: When you hear Deebo Samuel, your ears perk up and you're. 282 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think the difference between the two, the 283 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: physicalness is definitely Debo I think Debo has a little 284 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: bit more acceleration. Al Yeah, but the physicalness and the 285 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: way that Debo runs and the way he makes DB's 286 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: make business decisions, it's it's on the money to me, 287 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: actually reminds me a little bit more of Golden Tate. 288 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: I don't think people tend to forget how good Golden 289 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: Tate was and how physical Golden Tate was after he 290 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: caught the ball, right, uh, you just go back to 291 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: when he h was I think in Detroit and he 292 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: played Seattle and he caught that ball on the sideline 293 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: and stefan one dude and then flipped in the end 294 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: zone to score a touchdown. Like it shows you the 295 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: lower body strength that he has. And Malakai Corley is 296 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: just like Golden Tate in that manner. And I think 297 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: they'll use him in the same way that you know 298 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions used him as well, where they use 299 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: him a lot of crossing patterns. That way, you get 300 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: him on a safety end in one on one in 301 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: the open field, and you make that safety make a 302 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: decision whether he's really about that life tackling or not. 303 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: That's why I think you know this this offense should 304 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: do with Malakai Corley. 305 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Let's get to day three. The draft surprise here at 306 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: all from your perspective to the Jets go to running backs, 307 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: sandwich around a quarterback. We knew the developmental passer was 308 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: gonna come at some point day three. And we'll get 309 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: to Jordan Travis in the second. But your thoughts on 310 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: Allen from Wisconsin isaaed Davis from South Dakota State. 311 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, both big physical backs. I think Braylen Allen if 312 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: you look at the twenty twenty two tape, I mean, 313 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: he was a monster. EA, Like, I believe he led 314 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: the nation in broken tackles and it was like by 315 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: a large amount. It wasn't even close. I mean when 316 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: you look at him, just look at the physique of him, 317 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: it kind of reminds you of King Henry, like honestly. 318 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: And it's funny that I said that because they actually, 319 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: I believe, work out together in Texas. So he's actually 320 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: shifty for a guy his size. Now, he's not the 321 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: best pass catcher at all, but he's a guy that's 322 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: going to get you those tough yards, and guys just 323 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: seemed to bounce off of him, EA like literally, and 324 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: then Isaiah Davis. I'm a huge Isaiah Davis fan. I 325 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: remember calling his playoff game two years ago out there 326 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: in South Dakota when they played UC Davis. At the time, 327 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: they had a running back that was in front of 328 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: him called named Pierre Strong, but Isaiah Davis was started 329 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: taking carries away from him because he was that special 330 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: of a player, ultra productive. He has a Le'Veon bell 331 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: running style, real patience behind the line of scrimmage, and 332 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: then he explodes through the second level and he's another 333 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: guy that's physical, like he's gonna make you make a 334 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: business decision in that secondary. So they got two backs 335 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: that are different than what's currently on their roster. Not 336 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: that Breesehall can't be a physical back, but when you 337 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: look at him and i Isy Abandoned County, you talk 338 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: about guys that have the top end speed that can 339 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: really take it the distance. These two guys are more physical, right, 340 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: They're gonna get you those gritty yards that you need. 341 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: We Breeshall is dangerous and open field. He was hurt 342 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: in defensive backs last year. The other thing about Davis 343 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: that is quite surprising, and you could add some color 344 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: here since you've seen him in person, is that I've 345 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: been told the guy is a really good special teams player, 346 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: and that was shocked by that because just looking at 347 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: his stats and his numbers, I thought there'd be no 348 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: time for him to play. 349 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: No time for special team. But that's that's a really 350 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: well run South Dakota State team. Right. They actually had 351 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: I believe two Offton Liman, Mason McCormick and Field get 352 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: drafted as well. They actually had two receivers that then 353 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: go free agents. They're twin brothers and Yankee brothers. So 354 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: this is a program that you know, even though it's FCS, 355 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: it's ran like an FBS, right, and guys go there 356 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: and developed really well. We talked about Pierre Strong, he 357 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: was a high draft pick or a fourth rounder I 358 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: believe for the Patriots, then got traded to the Cleveland Browns. 359 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: And let's not forget Dallas Goddard was another guy that 360 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: was there as well. So they developed players really well, 361 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: and they had a corner going the seventh round. So 362 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: this is a program that developed got developed, develops guys 363 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: really well, and they understand what it takes to get 364 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: to the next level. So a lot of those skill 365 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: position players, they're special teams aces on that team, like 366 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: some of their best players are their best special teams players. 367 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: So that's a program. Again, if you're not fortunate enough 368 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: to go FBS and you can get a scholarship and 369 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: go to FCS, that's the school you should look at 370 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: because they're gonna get you prepared for the next level. 371 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: The other thing I like about Allen he's twenty years old. 372 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: It's the youngest player in the draft class. 373 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: He's very young, so a lot of upside there as well. 374 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: And one thing he does really well too is protection, 375 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: and we know that's a big thing for rookie quarterbacks 376 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: coming into the league. You got to be able to 377 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: fit it up there and protect to protect the run quarterback, 378 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: but you also got to know what you're doing back there. 379 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: Ea right when line slides, you got to know if 380 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: you got a guy up in the middle, you got 381 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: a guy off the edge. You have to know these 382 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: things and that's the big thing for Aaron Rodgers. He's 383 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: not going to have a back in the backfield unless 384 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: they know what they're doing protection wise. So I think 385 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: Brydlon Allen coming in as a guy that's proven at Wisconsin. 386 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: He knows the protections. He knows he can stick it 387 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: up there, and we know he's a bigger back to EA. 388 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: So the physicalness and contact he's not going to shy 389 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: away from. He's gonna fit it up with linebackers blitzing 390 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: up the middle. So I think that gives him a 391 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: nice edge too. In regards to maybe seeing the field 392 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: this year, with. 393 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: All the player acquisitions on the offensive side of the ball, 394 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: are you seeing a change of mindset from the Jets? 395 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: Not that they were a finets team before on the 396 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: offensive side, but I'm just thinking physical talk. 397 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: I love what you. 398 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: I love you when you're talking about John Simpson and 399 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: then you try you bring Morgan back here, and you 400 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: got Tyron Smith, and then you get for Shadow and 401 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: none you come and get Corley, and then you get 402 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: these two big, burly backs who were just really good 403 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: after contact and they want to just run through you. 404 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: And I just think that a mindset change is underway 405 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: in a big, big time way. 406 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought that up, BA, because when 407 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: you look at this team and you look at the 408 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: personnel that's been added, and you look at kind of 409 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: how they finished the season. When you go to the 410 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos game, you go to the Patriots game. This 411 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: team by nature and then Daniel Hackett and where he 412 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: came from. The Little floor Tree is a zone based team. 413 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 2: But they started playing and running more gap scheme. And 414 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: if you look at the guys they brought in, John 415 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: Simpson was one of the best pulling guards in football 416 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: last year. Morgan Moses is one of the best run 417 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: blocking tackles in all of football. You talked about the 418 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: physical backs they brought in. Braylan Allen is a good 419 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 2: scap gap scheme back. You got a patient running back 420 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: in Isaiah Davis who's a physical back as well. Could 421 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: we see a philosophy change this year, ea in seat 422 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: of running more zone, running, more gap scheme, where you're 423 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: going to get double teams, guardpool, more physical runs. I 424 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: think Robert Salaz, a defensive coach, would love that, right 425 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: and the personnel kind of measures up to that as well. 426 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: So I can't wait to see that. And then you 427 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 2: talk about having a guy like Jeremy Rutger who will 428 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: rip your face off in the run game as well. 429 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: Like I think this team will play a little bit more. 430 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: They'll still have the split zone in there, obviously, but 431 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see a little bit more gap 432 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: scheme with this team as well. 433 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers is one of the best players in 434 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: the history of this game. But he's also an exceptional 435 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: play action passer correct and he knows obviously when to 436 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: exploit matchups. And you add a were we have a 437 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: punishing style running game. You got Rogers, who is so 438 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: gif did as far as looking at the defense and saying, 439 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: I know where I have my strengths in the formation here. 440 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: And then you get Corey into the mix where hey, 441 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: you can get him the ball five six times a game, 442 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: and hey, he watch you out defensive backs because he's 443 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: coming after you. Garrett Wilson's gonna get more space, you 444 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: like the tight end room. I don't know, man, I'm 445 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: excited about what this offense potentially could be. 446 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you just look on paper. We've 447 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: stated this before eight being on paper means absolutely nothing, right, 448 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: you got to go out there and do it. But 449 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: just on paper, this is one of the most complete 450 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: rosters in the NFL. And it's not me being a Homer. 451 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: I guarantee most people would agree with that as well. 452 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: When you talk about a championship type defense that added 453 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: the caliber player that Hassan Reddick is like, who was 454 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: in the running for Defensive Player of the Year. Right, 455 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: and then you look at Aaron Rodgers potentially coming back. 456 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: You add a perennial All Pro tackle and timern Smith 457 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: an iron man tackle, and Morgan Moses. You get Olu 458 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 2: for Shannu. Right, you get the yacht King and Malachi Corley. 459 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: You got Mike Williams, who was one of the best 460 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: contested fifty to fifty jump receivers in the NFL. And 461 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson, who is just one of the best all 462 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: around young receivers in the game. And let's not forget 463 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: Reese Hall is going to make this all come together, right, 464 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: He's one of the best pure playmakers in the NFL. 465 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: Like again, on paper, it's just one of the most 466 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: complete rosters. But again it has to be done on 467 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: the field. 468 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: Jordan Travis, we knew the Jets were going to go 469 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: young quarterback. They go the Florida State Pass or there 470 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: in round five. That was a trade up. Joe Douglas 471 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to wait any longer, so he sends a 472 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: pair of picks to the Eagles. What can you say 473 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: about his journey and also what do you like about 474 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: this acquisition? 475 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: Well, when you look at it, besides Jaden Daniels, EA, 476 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: I would say Jordan Travis probably had the best ascension 477 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: at quarterback besides Jaden Daniels, and we're talking about growth 478 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 2: from the quarterback position. Was the best in the ACC 479 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: last year, which says a lot when you've got a 480 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: guy that goes number three overaw In Drake May from 481 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 2: North Carolina. Jordan Travis was the best player in that conference. 482 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody could even question that. Like, 483 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: we saw what he meant to that Florida State team 484 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: and him not being there left them out of the 485 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: college football playoffs, right That lets you know how important 486 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 2: he was to that team. Really grow, grew as a passer, 487 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: really good touch passer, doesn't have the strongest arms, tough, 488 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: competitive guy when he does put his foot in the 489 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: ground and run, very dynamic in the open space running 490 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: the football, and he's comfortable throwing on the run. And 491 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing about him and why this 492 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 2: staff really loves him, he's just competitive. He's really competitive 493 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: in regards to like just leaving it all there on 494 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: the line to win games. That's what Jordan Travis does. 495 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: I asks a lot of them at the line of 496 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: scrimmage last year at Florida steps at Florida State in 497 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: regards to techs and getting them in the right place. 498 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: So you love that extension in this game as well, 499 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: because we see so many times in college football where 500 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 2: you know, these quarterbacks looked to the sideline, and he 501 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 2: did some of that as well, but a lot of 502 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: it was on him to make sure people were in 503 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: the right positions at Florida State. So again, you're right, 504 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: I was. I was probably higher on Michael Pratt for 505 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: the Jets, but I could see why they went Jordan 506 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: Travis and he guess a great red shirt year to 507 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: learn by two consummate pros, and Tyrod Taylor and Aaron Rodgers. 508 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: I mean, who better to learn from as you grow 509 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: and develop as a young quarterback. 510 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: He actually started his career at Louisville, Like you said, 511 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: his ascension at Florida State was really something else. And 512 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: Mike Norvell when he went to Florida State kept him 513 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: and he became the face of that team. And last 514 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: year twenty touchdowns, two interceptions football, that's really good. Decision making, 515 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: did he throw better with anticipation as his career progressed, 516 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: and also can you talk about his movement skills. Unfortunately 517 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: he went down against North Alabama. You feel so bad 518 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: for Florida's State, the program that they couldn't compete for 519 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: a national championship, but also the person Jordan Travis and 520 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: everything he had been through to get to that point. 521 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: Because Florida State struggled for a while and then Norwalk 522 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: comes in and they take all these massive steps and 523 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Travis is right here and he goes down. He's 524 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: not able, but talk about his evolution as a passer 525 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: thrown with anticipation, and also can he be a dual 526 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: threat on this level as well? Eventually? 527 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say going into two years ago, I 528 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: would say there was no way he was able to 529 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: play quarterback at the next level. That's the type of 530 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: extension he's had. Now. He still needs to work on 531 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: some of those anticipation throws that you were talking about. 532 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: Doesn't throw with great anticipation, but again, he's gotten better 533 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: in that aspect, and he's gotten better with his touch throws. 534 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: And I talked about him being a touch throw doesn't 535 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: have the biggest arm in the world as far as 536 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: downfield throws. But he can make every throw that you 537 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: need him to make. And we talked about it, or 538 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: you alluded to his playmaking ability, right, I would say 539 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: two years ago, first Reely wasn't there. He would take off. 540 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: You saw the growth in the pocket this year, and 541 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: that's the most important thing for a young quarterback to 542 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: sit in there, go through your progressions and then if 543 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: nothing's there, take off where before it was all right, 544 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: first reason not there, I'm taking off because this is 545 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: what I'm going to rely on my athletic ability. We 546 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: really saw him grow in the last two years when 547 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: it comes to that and the thing about him, we 548 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: talked about him being competitive. There were rumors like when 549 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: he first got there and when Norvale first got there, 550 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: that he wasn't going to be the guy. Right he 551 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: was in the competition, he was starting, and he wasn't starting. 552 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: But you love the attitude did not transfer right to 553 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: stick it out, fight through adversity and lay it on 554 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: the line for your brothers and your teammates and continue 555 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: to grow. I think too many times in today's society, guys, 556 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: if they don't get their way, they're willing to just 557 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: quit or go somewhere else in the transfer portal. I 558 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: think there's something to be said for Jordan Travis for 559 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: sticking it out when he got to Florida, when maybe 560 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: Mike Norvel didn't always believe in him in the beginning. 561 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: He earned that trust and he earned the trust of 562 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: his teammates. And then when you hear people talk about him, 563 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: I think I talked to Jermaine about him just glowing reviews. 564 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 2: They love this kid, They love what his makeup is, 565 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: they love what he's all about. So I think from 566 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: that standpoint, he fits in perfectly with the just and 567 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: what they're trying to build rite the attitude that he 568 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: plays with, right, the type of player he is, and 569 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: the human being that he is. Right. So he's been tested, 570 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: he's been through adversity, he's come out on the other side, 571 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: and like I said, he who better to learn from 572 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: than Aaron Rodgers and Tyrod Taylor is you're trying to 573 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: develop in the NFL. 574 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great situation for him. So let's go 575 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: to the sixth round quants as stakes. First off, did 576 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: you know that you could actually draft Canadian Football League players? 577 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: I thought the guy was going to be a free agent. 578 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't know that until this year when he 579 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 2: was in the West game and my guy turn out 580 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: to my guy, Imrie Hunt, he put me on to him. 581 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: He was like yo, he was like, dudes, you got 582 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: to watch this kid from the CFL. He was like, 583 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 2: he's different, He's ready. And when I got on that 584 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: tape from the East West game, I was like, Oho, 585 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 2: old stick Oh, Quanta Stickers can play some football. I mean, 586 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 2: we'll probably talk about his story in a little bit, 587 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: but just a football player alone. EA, when you can 588 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: play in Canada, you can play in the NFL because 589 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: you got to understand the fields. Bigger those receivers get 590 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: a running start coming at you. So Stickers has proven 591 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 2: he can play and man, he can play off man 592 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: and I think, honestly, the Jets might even try him 593 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: at safety. EA. I think that, Yeah, where's the transition. Yeah, 594 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: I think on this team that'll be a transition for him. 595 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: The thing is, we talked about his EA like, corner 596 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: was a sneaky need for this team. So could they 597 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: potentially keep him at corner because let's not forget three 598 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: of our top four corners are going to be free 599 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: agents next year. When you talk about Brandon Neckles, talk 600 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: about DJ Reid, you talk about Michael Carter the second 601 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: which hopefully one of those guys get an extension before 602 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: the season starts, because you would like to have some 603 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: continuity coming back in that unit because it's one of 604 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: the best units in all of football. 605 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: Well, Carter's extension eligible after next season too, right, He's 606 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: able to get a new. 607 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: Deal as well, so decisions are going to have to 608 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: be made. So that's why when me and you were talking, 609 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: I was like, corner on a low is a sneaky 610 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: need for this team. So I could see where they 611 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: maybe try him at safety this year and then put 612 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: him back at corner, or they cross training where you 613 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: know a lot of guys do that where they play 614 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: corner and safety, just because you know you only go 615 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: into the game with three safety sometimes and somebody goes down, 616 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: somebody got to be able to come in and play. 617 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: I think he'll be that guy that's the cross guy 618 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: that plays corner in safety for the Jets, just because 619 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: he has experienced playing both. 620 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: Quanta, you were a guy who was undrafted. You tweeted 621 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: about Day three and how much you liked those stories stiggers. 622 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: This story's wild. 623 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: Man, amazing staging, amazing story. It's like for a guy 624 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: who was supposed to go to Land College coming out 625 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: his dad unfortunately passed. He wanted to help his mom 626 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: out started delivering food as a food service delivery guy. 627 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: I believe, Hea, it's either he has thirteen siblings or 628 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: he's one of thirteen siblings and wanted to help out 629 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: his mom. But this is how you know, like his family, 630 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: his mom is special because she knew what his dream was, right. 631 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: She signs him up for fan Control football, which was 632 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: a new thing at the time. Yeah, right, just so 633 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: he could play football. And he goes out there and 634 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: I believe has five and five or six interceptions. Thea 635 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: one scout from the CFL gets his tape and they're 636 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: able to see his tape and they sign him. Not 637 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: only does he go to Canada, EA, he becomes Rookie 638 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: of the Year and has five inners. You talk about 639 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: a crazy story and like a story of determination and 640 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: not giving up on your dream even though you've been 641 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: through so many, so much adversity and obstacles, but to 642 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: have the staying power to continue to fight for what 643 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: you want, like you root for guys like quantest stickers, 644 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: like you're praying that he does well, because most people 645 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: would have quit, literally, most people would have quit. They 646 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: would have been like, you know, why is this always 647 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: happening to me? But that never happened with this kid. 648 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: He stayed to it, kept his head down, kept working, 649 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: had his family love and support, and look where he's 650 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: at now in the NFL and didn't play college football. 651 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: Just to echo your sentiments there, the Jets clearly loved him. 652 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: You watch those phone calls on draft weekends throughout the 653 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: day Football League so. 654 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: Fun teers in my damn eyes. 655 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: Jeff Ulbrick gets on the line, he's in tears. He's 656 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: a Jets defensive coordinator. Later it's past to to and 657 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: to so beloved Tony and the cornerbacks coach here and 658 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: Bobby BISTROTI that had a. 659 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: Security you know, that's my guy, man. And when Bobby 660 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: got on the phone and almost lost it, that's when 661 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: I lost it. Yeah, That's when I lost it. Yeah. 662 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 1: Oh, So bring people on the inside, man, you worked there, 663 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: you've worked here. What kind of figure is Bobby inside? 664 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: This organized? For fans who just watching that clip. 665 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: Oh, Bobby's the guy. If you don't know, Bobby's our 666 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: head security guy. Bobby has been putting it down for years. 667 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: He was there when he was there before I was 668 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: a player. He was there, well I was a player, 669 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: he was there as I came in as a broadcaster. 670 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: He's my guy, and Bobby means a lot to me. 671 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: Me and Bobby have a really good relationship. And for 672 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: your security guy and Bobby, I think said he only 673 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: spent like fifteen minutes with him in the meeting when 674 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: he came on a visit, and like it was such 675 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: an impactful meeting that you rarely see the security guy 676 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: get on the phone on draft day when somebody makes calls. 677 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 2: That lets you know what type of guy contest Stickers is. 678 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: When Bobby was like, coach, I need to talk to 679 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: this kid, Like everybody in that room wanted to talk 680 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: to this kid. That lets you know how special he 681 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: truly is. And I'm so glad he's with the Jets 682 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: because again, the adversity and things that he went through. 683 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: It's a common theme, right, we just talked about Jordan Travis. 684 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: Now he didn't go through what Stickers went through, obviously, 685 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: but he did injury wise, and he did, you know, 686 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: mental wise as far as maybe having some self doubt 687 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: at times when he was in college. The Jets wanted 688 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: to get guys that were mentally strong, and I love 689 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: that if you can be mentally strong, the physical is nothing. Ea, 690 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: like we're all physically gifted. It's the mental that usually 691 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: separates where the guys last in the NFL or not. 692 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Full disclosure, Bobby's one of my closest friends. We shared 693 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: an office together way back in the Hofstra days. 694 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 695 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, so we go always back. I 696 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: mean listen, Yeah, that was a great moment. It's a 697 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: cool moment. And I also was quite pleased to see 698 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: Michael Carter the second was one of the first guys 699 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: on social media to say be pumped up about the 700 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: move because he trains with stickers. So that's a cool 701 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: connection already. 702 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 703 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: Right, So let's go to mister irrelevant, mister Key from Alabama. 704 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 1: What what should we know about him? And also how 705 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: does he potentially try to make this roster? 706 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jalen Keys rode to the roster. It's 707 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: probably going to be on special team. Now he does 708 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: have the opportunities more of the in the box guy. 709 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: I think he does have an opportunity to if he 710 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 2: develops really well, ea potentially pushed to be a third 711 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: safety on this team. Again, Chuck Clark's coming off of 712 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: a major injury. You would think he's going to be 713 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: healthy because it happened so early during the training cramp process. 714 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: Ashton Davis comes back. Tony Adams is in that building, 715 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 2: so too, had too and the rest of the staff. 716 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: Jeff Auberg, they had glowing reviews about him as well. 717 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: So this is a player like again, I think they 718 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: even said it on Twitter, like, even though you're the 719 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: last pick, you're the most important pick, You're not mystery 720 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 2: irrelevant to us, right, So, like, this is a player 721 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: that you know in past years, mystery relevant has had 722 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 2: a hard time making the you know, besides brock Perty, 723 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: usually that last pick in the draft has struggled to 724 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: make the team. A lot of times the guy makes 725 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: either practice squad or doesn't make the roster. I remember 726 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: Grant Stewart from Tampa Bay. He made the team too. 727 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: He was a special team's ace for the Bucks that 728 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 2: I think he got traded to the Patriots. If I'm 729 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: not mistaken, so like it's it's usually a hard road 730 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: for mister Relevant, but I think this kid actually has 731 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: a real chance. It's gonna start in special teams though 732 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 2: for him to actually make the team. 733 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: Man, a lot of cool stories for the Jets this draft. 734 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: I think fans are really going to gravitate towards Malchai Corley, 735 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: Jordan Travis in Quantiz Stiggers. I mean, it's just the 736 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: backstories of what they had to do to get to 737 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: the spot. But all in all, it all starts with 738 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: Olu Fashionu. 739 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: So it does. But before we get out of there, i't' 740 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 2: about to get here, Cya. I want to talk about 741 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: some undrafted free agents. Come on, man, you can't have 742 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: me in here as an undrafted free agent and think 743 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 2: we're not going to talk about some undrafted free agentcy. 744 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: Okay, officially, listen, the podcast is going out before these 745 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: guys actually signed. So I got a preface by saying 746 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: it looks like the Jets have agreed to terms with 747 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: a number of guys. Nothing is official until they signed. 748 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: Go ahead, the floors, two guys, two guys, and of 749 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: course I'm going to the D line. We'll start with 750 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 2: Leonard Taylor, and then I'll talk about my favorite tign 751 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: together Jets after that. Leonard Taylor, guy that a lot 752 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: of people had going in like the fourth or fifth round. 753 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: His twenty twenty two tape was a lot better. Was 754 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: a guy that could give you some of that interior 755 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 2: pass rush. I thought this year he kind of played 756 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: out of position. Sometimes they had him over the center, 757 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: and he played with high pad level as well, which 758 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: I think really hurt him in his development. But for 759 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: a guy that a lot of people had maybe going 760 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: in the fourth, fifth, sixth round, I had the more 761 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 2: than a sixth round guy. I think that's great value 762 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: to get him in as he undrafted free agent. But 763 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: my favorite potential, again, like you said, because these signings 764 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: haven't become official yet, my favorite potential signing for the 765 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: Jets is Braden McGregor out of Michigan. I mean, the 766 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: Justs just lost John Franklin Myers in the trade to 767 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos. Brandan McGregor has a similar game to 768 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 2: John Franklin Monins. He's a guy that a lot of 769 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 2: people kind of didn't know where he would pinch Lynn 770 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 2: at because he's a big defensive end. He's like two 771 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: seventy two seventy five. But he also showed in that 772 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: game versus Alabama he can rush inside. He had two 773 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 2: sacks in that game. So that's why I say the 774 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 2: comparison to John Franklin Myers, who who is a one 775 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: of probably the best run edge guy we had on 776 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: our team. But he also brought that grittiness right. He 777 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: was the unsung hero of the defense. He was able 778 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 2: to slide and slide and rush on third down. I 779 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: think Braden McGregor gives you some of that as well. 780 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: So honestly, I had him as a fourth round pick, 781 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 2: so I was surprised he didn't get drafted. That's that's 782 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: a major for the just to get him. 783 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: So we're circling McGregor. You think he's got a real 784 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: chance here. 785 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: I think he has a chance to make the team. Yeah, 786 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: for sure. 787 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: You just talked about it, the thoughts on John frank 788 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,479 Speaker 1: Lamyer's being sent to Denver, and did you feel this 789 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: was inevitable after the Jets acquired his son Reddick. 790 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I hated it, but I kind of knew. 791 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 2: I actually taught to JF and when it happened, okay, 792 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 2: and you know, I told him, you know, because that's 793 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: my guy. If anybody knows, that's my guy. So I 794 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 2: was just like, this is the part of the business 795 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: that I hate. Right, We kind of knew that something 796 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: was going to happen. This was going to come down 797 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: the pike, just because you know, Jermaine had an extension 798 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: right pro Bowl player, so you would think he's going 799 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: to start. You trade for a son Reddick, He's starting, right. 800 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: It's different than like when he played in Philly because 801 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: they kind of ran a hybrid three four where the 802 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 2: Jets predominantly run a four to three. 803 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: Right, really quickly estimate this from me. I'm cutting you 804 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,959 Speaker 1: off here. Reddick played seventy four percent of snaps each 805 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: of the last two seasons Philadelphia. You think that probably 806 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: goes down a little bit here the way? 807 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: No, you still, yeah, I know the way that Jets play, 808 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 2: but I just know how Hassan Reddick is. He's not 809 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: gonna be one that's gonna want to come off the field, okay, right. 810 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: So like so with that being said, that even makes 811 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: it more clear why je. 812 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 2: And I think that was part not just the money, 813 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 2: but I think that was part of it as well. 814 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: Like a son Reddick is a guy that usually doesn't 815 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: miss games or miss snaps, so he's on the field, 816 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 2: like you said, seventy four percent of the time. And 817 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 2: then also you saw the extension, the ascension of Jermaine, 818 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 2: you would think his you know, play time would go 819 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 2: up as well this year as well. So like he 820 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 2: caught us all the writing on the wall, wish him 821 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 2: nothing but the best. Again, that's my guy, So I 822 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: told him, this is the part of the business that 823 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: I hate. And I know this coaching staff didn't want 824 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 2: to make that move, but you know, with the cap 825 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 2: and everything else, and then some of the things that 826 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 2: we just stated about how Hassan Redick doesn't come off 827 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 2: the field, you kind of knew this was, I mean, 828 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: down the. 829 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: Pipe thirty seconds. What's the counter on the edge as 830 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: far as now teams are going to try to attack 831 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: you without JFM there as far as running football. 832 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: Correct, So I mean, Jermaine was already a really good 833 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 2: run stopping defensive end. So I mean and asn Reddick 834 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: is under the radar, really good guy steadying me edge 835 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: right and forcing the ball back inside. So I think 836 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 2: Michael Clemens is going to have to step up this year. Also, 837 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 2: we took another guy in the first round and Will. 838 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 2: Will's going to have to have a big year as well. 839 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: And I think this coaching staff is looking at Jermaine 840 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 2: and saw how he was able to develop and have 841 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 2: a really good second year. They're hoping that Will does 842 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: the same thing this year as well. So I think 843 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: Braden McGregor could be a sleeper too in regards to 844 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 2: that as well. He's a guy I think Jet fans 845 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 2: should keep their eye on. 846 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: Well man, I've had a blast with our draft coverage. 847 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: Sure, it's been great. 848 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you set us up well prior to 849 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: the draft and now you're taking us home after draft weekend. 850 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: What do you think five years down the line, how 851 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: is this class going to be remembered. 852 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 2: I'm stilling Carolina this earlier today. I think when you 853 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: look at Olu and my comment for him was a 854 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 2: guy that man on the left side for the Jets 855 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 2: for a long time and never missed any time and 856 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 2: the Brigershoff Ferguson, I think he him alone will make 857 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 2: this a really good draft class, right because I think 858 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 2: he is going to be the Jets left tackle by 859 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 2: his skill set for the next ten to fifteen years. 860 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: I honestly do believe that. I think he's that good, right, 861 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 2: I think he could be that special. So when you 862 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 2: look at this draft class, it's all going to be 863 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 2: about what the first round pick is right now. The 864 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 2: other guys are important as well, and I think Stickers 865 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: has a chance to stick around. I think Corley, if 866 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: he keeps developing with his ROUNDE running, has a chance 867 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 2: to stick around as well. But it's all going to 868 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 2: be started with Olu Fashionu and his development at left tackle. 869 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: Love it, brother, you have a good day and get 870 00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: some rust. 871 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Yeah, h