1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: You were a fan. Yeah, you and you got and 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: you got my boy, young bird man. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: How was that? How was young bird? Oh? Man, let 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: me let me tell you something, man, that's not like 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 2: the same bird we got. 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 3: You got you got the same bird you got that. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. But but see we had bird Man. 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 4: Bird was bird was going through it man, and you know, 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 4: shout out to bird Man. He just he was his 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 4: authentic self man. So he you know, he had to 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 4: learn a lesson obviously, but like man, bird would was 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 4: wide open. He being birds the only god. I swear 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 4: to God, this is a true story. We'd be doing 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 4: three man. We and you know in some in some 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 4: uh you ever been in the gym where the scores 16 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 4: table is out but the bleachers are back, so the 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 4: space behind the scores table. 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. Yo, Bird used to 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: run behind the scores table. But we're running three man. 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: We like just to show like you know, he was, 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 4: he was flying high, he was shaping everybody. 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: This dude would be booking it. 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 4: I'm talking about going were like all right, bird all right, 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 4: like he would just be out there were in Oklahoma. 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 4: Bird is wearing white beaters, is getting tatted up. But 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: he in Oklahoma. It's ten degrees outside. Oh lord, oh yeah, 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 4: I mean he was wide open with us, bro he 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 4: was wide open. 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: So he was a little he was a little bit 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: more calm when he was mixed with you guys. 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: I tell you what, if he was a little cald 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: with us. 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: Was wild. He's a wild boar. Got that couple of mud, 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: A couple of mud. 35 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: That man had seven cups of coffee for the game, called. 36 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: A couple of sevent team seven, every team, every every 37 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: time you walk out. 38 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: He's a cold ass hockey Paul George duncked on his 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: ass so nasty in the. 40 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: Playoffs, remember, hey, man, why are you gonna bring that up? 41 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Bird man? 42 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: I think that I think that's when they took game one. 43 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Did they take one to Miami? Y'all take game one 44 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: to Miami? Oh, y'all took game two. 45 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: I think it was game two. 46 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: That's when they took game Tom. Yeah, I ain't gonna 47 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: tell you West. I know how y'all felt on y'all side, 48 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: But on our side, we was a little we can 49 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: say it now, we was a little shaky. 50 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: It was a house of cars that. 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: We hope for, like we could put that pressure on, 52 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: you know, to try to sleep on. 53 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: For real, that whole, that whole East though, man, I'm 54 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: telling you, like you guys, Boston, Chicago, it was all 55 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: physical brands of basketball. I mean, it was a it 56 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: was a gosh damn, it was tough. 57 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 4: It was a different and you know, it was just, uh, 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: it was very it was a very thin line like 59 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: between we had this week. Experienced this in the West 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: and then it happened while I was in the East. 61 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 4: But like in the West, one year we had i mean, 62 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: everybody won fifty. 63 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: Plus Memphis at the time, fifty games, you know. 64 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: So you know, we had been used to like them 65 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: kind of tight playoff battles. 66 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: But in the East we were we were thinking the 67 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: same thing. 68 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: Like you know, the divisional games for us meant a lot, 69 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: you know, fighting with with Chicago, you know, obviously, trying 70 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 4: to keep pace with because the Knicks, the Knicks were 71 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 4: mellow and then they had built a tough group too, 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: So trying to stand in the hunt for one of 73 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: those top one or two or three spots in the East, 74 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: you know, so we could be positioned to potentially make 75 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: a deep run was all that we had on our 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: on our focus. And then when we realized like, okay, 77 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: you know we weren't because we kind of gave ourselves 78 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: like some measuring sticks. You know, how we how we 79 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: fared against the best teams, how many teams we could 80 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: beat in the West, and how many of those you 81 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: know how it is you go on those road trips 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: and you you win five or six games out West, 83 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: You're like, okay, we we we we might be onto something. 84 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: So we did that early on and then the confidence 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: grow from there for for. 86 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: Us as a group. 87 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: Talk to us about Golden State, so you go up 88 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: play Golden State. 89 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 90 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 4: So the Warriors, Man, the Warriors was a great experience 91 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: for me. Right obviously won championships. And I'll tell you, man, 92 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: like this really this real, Like I went. There would 93 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 4: be a moment every one of those series, bro where 94 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 4: I would be standing on the free throw line and 95 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, we lost it three years in a row. 96 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 4: And I'd be standing on that free throw line looking 97 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: at facing Miami's bench, and I would always make eye 98 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 4: contact with James Jones and he would have this smirk 99 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: on his face that. 100 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: Would be like the tried, but you didn't. That smirk 101 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: used to drive me crazy. 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: And so when I when I got the Golden State, 103 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, ah, this is this is it? Like you 104 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: you feel this this level of like you know, you 105 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: know you've got the group to win it, you know 106 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: what I mean. It's not like it was in Indiana 107 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: where we're like, you know, we got a lot of 108 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 4: things have to go right with the Warriors. It was like, 109 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: we just can't this up, like we gotta be you know, 110 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 4: people don't realize like that environment. You know, obviously when 111 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: I was in Indiana, we had an environment like this, 112 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: but that winning environment, it's it. There's no there's no letdown. 113 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: So every single day, you know, foot is on the gas, 114 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: every shoot around, every video session, every weight room session, 115 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 4: every practice, every every every city that we go into, 116 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: there's like this seriousness that you carry yourself with because 117 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: you've got this really really high expectation of yourself. So 118 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: you know, we were able to put it together like 119 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: and that a lot of people love. The team was 120 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: super talented. It was, but y'all been in the NBA 121 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 4: locker rooms. The ego is crazy, and so being able 122 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 4: to have keep everybody's ego and check and everybody kind 123 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 4: of get on the same page, have this kind of 124 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: you know, professionalism and this continuity that was that would 125 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 4: all but ensure we're going to give ourselves the best 126 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: shot to win it. 127 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: So having having gone through that experience twice was. 128 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: Great, you know, being able to learn and watch watch 129 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 4: these guys preparing, but really watch the championship level of 130 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 4: preparation from the coaches and all that stuff. 131 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: It was really a good learning experience for me. You 132 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 133 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 4: I've been coaching AAU for like twenty plus years now, man, 134 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 4: so I really like, you know, working with young people. 135 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: So I was able to use a lot of that 136 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 4: and like you know, develop my own style and back 137 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: you know, coaching style, basketball philosophy. All I got all 138 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: that my last five six seven years in the NBA. 139 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 4: That's what it became about for me. It was really 140 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: just becoming a basketball guy, learning as much as I could, 141 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: retaining as much as I could, taking notes, keeping scout work, ports, 142 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: all that, just so I could have this this knowledge 143 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: base for basketball that I use when I when I'm 144 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 4: coaching young people. 145 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, it sounds like they have a culture 146 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: and I'm always interested because I know, if you're win 147 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: a team that wins consistently. There is a culture. I 148 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: only know what the MoMA Heat culture is. I've only 149 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: been around that, but you know from Afar, Golden State 150 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: has a culture, you know what I'm saying, And it 151 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: could be different, but I'm happy you touched on that 152 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: because the success that they have and the things they 153 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: speak on Steph, you got a chance to be around Steph. 154 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: You got a chance to be around KD. These guys 155 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: are not great just by accident. They ain't just throwing 156 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: the wall to see if it sticks. 157 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: Man. 158 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: Just talk about the work ethic, you know what I'm saying, 159 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: and the professionalism that those two guys have. And do 160 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: you think that KD got a little bit too much 161 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: of us? You know, flat for you know coming to 162 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: Golden State. 163 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 4: Right Well, I'll say this, man, like the first time 164 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: I saw Steph work out, you know, and I usually 165 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: try to see what guys are doing and try to say, hey, man, 166 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: I can tell this to a young kid, see if 167 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: he can do it. 168 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: None of the kids, none of that was applicable. A 169 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: level of difficulty that he puts hisself through. 170 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: You couldn't ask no kid to do that, you know 171 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: what I'm saying like you couldn't. I mean, it's just 172 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, what am I like, just the the ridiculous 173 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: amount of makes you gotta you know what I'm saying, 174 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: Like the numbers, like you gotta make twenty five straight 175 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: and they all gotta be I'm like, damn, But like, 176 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: you know how long it would take somebody to do 177 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: this stuff that he's doing in a minute two minutes, 178 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 4: you know, hitting fifty straight threes and then moving and 179 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: all this other type like it's it's banana. 180 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: So it was. 181 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: You know, it's no secret why he's the way he is, right, 182 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: he just works at that level, just like all of 183 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: those guys, all the great guys have that level of 184 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: work ethic that you know, a lot of us are 185 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 4: like that, and you just you get to a point 186 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 4: where you're like, well, I can't do that, and that's 187 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: just passed the limits of my you know who I am, Like, 188 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: I just can't. 189 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: You know, you literally can't do some of the stuff 190 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: that some of these guys do. 191 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: The four am workouts, you know, then you know you're 192 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: just getting the reps and the type of reps and 193 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: the shooting proficiency, I mean, all of that stuff. So 194 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 4: seeing all of that kind of locked in and then 195 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: you know they never took days off like they were 196 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 4: in the gym's play and Steph in the gym all 197 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 4: the time, KD. And I'm like, damn, like this is why, 198 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: like this is why they shoot the ball like this, 199 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: this is why they can bang off. 200 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: You know. 201 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 4: The first time I was in there with Kdie, I 202 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: remember this. The first time we looked at the stat 203 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: sheet and both them up it shot like thirteen fourteen, 204 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: three's a piece, And we looked at this. I said, 205 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: I mean, like, you. 206 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. 207 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 4: I mean, but you can't question it, you know what 208 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 4: I'm saying, because they literally getting five six hundred makes 209 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: after shoot around and then three four hundred makes before 210 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: the game, and then six hundred after practice before like 211 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: just constantly comes in. So it's so you're like, all right, well, 212 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 4: bet some games we're gon shoot eighteen threes. You know 213 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 4: where I'm looking at it, Like, man, in Indiana, eighteen 214 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: threes is like three games work. When I was in 215 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: New Orleans, we look at it pays us out like 216 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 4: four or five threes were like, damn pays it was 217 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: jacking today, bro, Like. 218 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: This five or six threes. Bro, you know what I'm 219 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: saying today, He's gotta shoot that in the first quarter. 220 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, extend. 221 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: I haven't even't been around a step to see his work, 222 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 3: but obviously you see it at levels. I've been around 223 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: KD in the summertime. 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