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Speaker 2: Sure? Sure, got in Wednesday evening, came over, spent about

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Speaker 2: an hour and a half maybe two hours with the

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Speaker 2: crew and just really more of a Q and a

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Speaker 2: got to know them, got to know me whereas you know,

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Speaker 2: family history, coaching, background, beliefs, philosophy. And then the next

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Speaker 2: morning came over and did the football portion of that.

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Speaker 2: Just talked about scheme, you know, how I would run

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Speaker 2: the room, how would I run the you know, the offense,

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Speaker 2: what what, how the meeting structures would be set up,

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Speaker 2: things like that. But it was I thought it was great.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was a great opportunity to come to

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Speaker 2: a great organization. I mean, obviously I have a lot

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Speaker 2: of history with Elliott, you know, from our days together

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Speaker 2: in Green Bay. So it felt good to come in

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Speaker 2: and and you know, and talk to people that were listening.

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Speaker 1: Was good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're evaluating a quarterback prospect, whether it's this year,

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Speaker 2: next year, or any year, what specifically are you looking for?

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Speaker 1: What traits do you like? What do you want to

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Speaker 1: see and a and a quarterback you might have to

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Speaker 1: work with going forward.

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know, again just goes back to decision making accuracy,

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Speaker 2: you know, the fundamentals, mechanics, if the guys, sound big

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Speaker 2: one again is leadership. You know, was he a four

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Speaker 2: or three year captain? You know, why wasn't he a cap?

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Speaker 2: So all that really plays together. The big piece for

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Speaker 2: me is the leadership, the toughness, the accuracy, and the

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Speaker 2: decision making. You could you could switch them in either way,

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Speaker 2: but the all four are super important. Okay, guys, thanks,