1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: There is going to be some sort of justice. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what it's going to look like yet, 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: but it's going to be significant, as we are now 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: going to find out over one hundred and seventy names 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: of Jeffrey Epstein's high profile associates. They will be named 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: in court documents set to be unsealed for in the 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: first days of twenty twenty four. 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: New reports have. 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: Come out a judge's rule to unseal the documents that 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: would name one hundred and seventy seven does who are 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Epstein's friends, recruiters and victims within the coming weeks. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: The material is related to a. 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: Defamation case brought by Prince Andrew's accuser, Virginia Roberts in 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: New York against Epstein's Madden Maxwell. You may remember her 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: as the girlfriend slash perverted psycho sicko that was trafficking 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: underage girls with Jeffrey Epstein. The hundreds of files, they say, 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: will shed new light on the late financiers sex trafficking 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: operation and his network of influence. This now coming from 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: The Daily Mail. Dozens of Jeffrey Epstein's high profile associates 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: are in for a New Year's surprise, as they will 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 2: be named in court documents set to be released in 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: the first days of twenty twenty four. The pedophile's powerful 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: friends are set to be exposed as part of a 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: vast unseiling that a judge ordered on Monday will take. 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Place in just days it will take. 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: It will take the release day to January one, but 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: as that is a holiday, is likely the files will 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: be made public the second or the third. Some of 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: the one hundred and seventy seven people will be identified 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: across hundreds of files, which will shed new light on 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: the late financiers sex trafficking operations and his network of 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: influencers and those that partook in these activities. Judge Loretta 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: wrote unsealed in full, next to the names of one 34 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy seven does who were Epstein's friends, recruiters, victims, 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: and others whose names will be revealed when the materials 36 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: release within the coming weeks. The material is related to 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: a defamation case, as I mentioned earlier, brought by Prince 38 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: Andrew's accuser, Virginia Roberts in New York. 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: Against Epstein's madam. 40 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: As you remember, Robert sued Maxwell for defamation in twenty sixteen, 41 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: and while the case was settled, the Miami Harrald, which 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: published a bomb show expose of Epstein that led to 43 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: his arrest in nineteen sue to get the documents made public. 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: Some of the does are identified in the ruling through 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: links to interviews they have given to the media, which 46 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: the judge cited as a reason why they should not 47 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: stay private. They include the housekeepers on Epstein's private island 48 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: in the Caribbean, where some of the worst abuse that 49 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: he perpetrated was carried out. In ruling, the judge gave 50 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: fourteen days for any does who objected to their documents 51 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: being made public to object, after which they would be unsealed. 52 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: There will be documents about one of Prince Andrew's accusers 53 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: who claim he fondled her breasts at Epstein's New York mansion. 54 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: There will also be a material about Hallie Robson, who 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: was named as a recruiter in police files of Epstein's 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: original investigation back in two thousand and six in Palm Beach, 57 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: though she has more recently claimed she was a victim II. 58 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: The filing suggests some documents will be related to a 59 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: French model scout who was close to apscene and allegedly 60 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: abused many young women. Brennew hanged himself in a Paris 61 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: prison cell in twenty twenty two while waiting trial on 62 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: a slew of sex charges. The documents in the case 63 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: have been released on a role basis in twenty nineteen, 64 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: when the first batch were made public days before. Epstein 65 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: also hanged himself allegedly in prison while awaiting trial on 66 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: his sex trafficking charges. Among the revelations and previous batches 67 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: of documents were emails between Prince Andrew and Epstein in 68 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen when Roberts made allegations about him. The batch 69 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: of one hundred and seventy seven DOZE in the final 70 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: group is excuse me, I should say the final group. 71 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: It includes many who were notified by the court but 72 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: did not object to documents with their names on them 73 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: being made public. The material is likely to include depositions 74 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: were now being told, emails, legal documents, and other material 75 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: not previously made public. 76 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: Does three and four appear to be doze? Excuse me? 77 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that. 78 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: DOZE three and four appeared to be Miles and Kathy Alexander, 79 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: a South African couple who managed Little Saint James Epstein's 80 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: private island in the Caribbean for years. The judge cited 81 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: a twenty eleven interview the couple gave The Daily Mail 82 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: as one of the reasons why their name should be 83 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: made public. In the interview, the couple claimed that it 84 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: was not their place to judge other people, even though 85 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: they suspected some of the girls on the island were young. 86 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: Kathy described how the Duke of York arrived with a 87 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: blonde brain surgeon in her thirties and that quote he 88 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: urinate on her foot when she trod on a sea urchin. 89 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: The tranch of documents will also include those referring to 90 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: any Farmer, one of the women who gave evidence at 91 00:05:54,560 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: Maxwell's trial. She's identified as Dough sixty three, as the 92 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: judge cited an interview she gave and notes she testified 93 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: under her own name. Doe sixty four appears to be 94 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: a reference to Farmer's sister, Maria, as it cites the 95 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: same interview as her sister in which both of them spoke. 96 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: Doe sixty seven is one of the recruiters who was 97 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 2: named during Maxwell's trial for alluring a fourteen year old 98 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: girl into Jeffrey Epstein's web. Caroline, who identified who I 99 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: should Say, who testified at Maxwell's trial that she was 100 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: recruited at age fourteen and repeatedly raped by Epstein, is 101 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: identified as Dough number five due to an interview which 102 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: the ruling cited. Tragically, she died earlier this year from 103 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: an overdose in a hotel room in Florida. Dough twenty 104 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: three appeared to be brenew as it refers to a 105 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: person who was subject to a widely public besides criminal 106 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: prosecution abroad for you guessed it, sex trafficking. Brenell was 107 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: arrested for the crime in France, but committed suicide before 108 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: he could go to trial. It's amazing how many people 109 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: die that are connected to Epstein. 110 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: Have you noticed that? 111 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: To me? 112 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: I keep going through the list of Oh, well, this 113 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: person commits suicide, this person committed suicide, this person overdose, 114 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 2: this person died. 115 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Dough twenty four is the. 116 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: Only one who is identified by name Harvard law professor 117 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: Alan Dursowitz, who has publicly called for all material related 118 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: to him to be made public. Now this judge, Presca 119 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: cited an NBC News interview she gave as the reason 120 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: for conceealing material related to Doe forty four. Among those 121 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: who spoke out in the interview were Roberts and Epstein's victims. 122 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: Another woman who says she was repeatedly raped by the 123 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: pedophile as well, also featured in the interviewer Epstein's victims, 124 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: a girl by the name of Jennifer and Rachel. 125 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: It's unclear which person the ruling refers to. Dough one, p. 126 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: Fifty four is Hailey Robson, who spoke out in the 127 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: Netflix series Filthy Rich about Epstein's crimes and described how 128 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: she was already a rape victim by the age of 129 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: sixteen when she got caught in his web. In the 130 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: interview cited by the judge, Robson says that her image 131 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: has portrayed in police reports. She bragged that she was 132 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: like Heidie Feiss, the infamous Hollywood madam. She was not 133 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: mature enough to understand what was happening to her at 134 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: the time. Perhaps most alarming for Prince Andrew is the 135 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: inclusion of another one of Epstein's victims in the list 136 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: of does the judge effectively named Joanna as Jane Doe 137 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: one sixty two by citing a male article about her 138 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: from twenty twenty one. So far, only small expert excerpts 139 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: of her depositions have been made public, and those have 140 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: been damning for the Duke Prince Andrew. It was in 141 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: two thousand and seven that she first told of the 142 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: legend counter with Andrew at Epstein's East seventy first Street 143 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: mansion in New York. 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One of the victims set in 169 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: a deposition. In deposition, she recalled that she returned to 170 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: the Grand Home after some sight seeing and Prince Andrew 171 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: was there in a couple of other girls my age. 172 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew was very charming, she said. 173 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: She said that Maxwell, the madam and girlfriend of Epstein, 174 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,479 Speaker 2: came down with a present for him, a latex puppet 175 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: of him from Spitting Image, a satirical British TV show. 176 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: The victim added that Andrew had thought the puppet was 177 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: funny because it was him she said in a deposition, 178 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: I just remember someone suggesting a photo, and they told 179 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: us to get on the couch, and so Virginia Roberts 180 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: and Andrew said on the couch, and they put the 181 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: puppet on her lap quote, and so I sat on 182 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: Andrew's lap. 183 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: I believe my own I believe in my own politician. 184 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: And they took the puppet's hand and put it on 185 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: Virginia's breast, and so Andrew put his on mine. It 186 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: was all done in a joking manner, and everybody laughed. 187 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: Janelle was a dirt, had a dirty sense of humor. 188 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: There are ten doughs whose names will not be made 189 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: public the judge rule because they are minor victims whose 190 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: names have not been. 191 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: Publicly revealed before quote. 192 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: In those cases, their privacy outweighs the public's right to know. 193 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: The ruling stated and previously released documents. In the case, 194 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: Roberts named for the first time other powerful men she 195 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: alleges that she had sex with, including former New Mexico 196 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 2: Governor Bill Richardson. 197 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: Bill Richardson died in September. 198 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: Other names included wealthy financier Glenn Dubin and now Deceeize 199 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: mit scientists, Marvin Minsky, along with along with other prints, 200 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: a foreign president, a well known prime minister, and the 201 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: owner of a large hotel chain in France. Emails sent 202 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: by Andrew to Maxwell showed the panic that gripped him 203 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: in early twenty fifteen when Roberts made her allegations against him. 204 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: In fact, an email to Maxwell five point fifty am 205 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: on January the fifth, twenty fifteen, the Duke wrote, let 206 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: me know when we can talk. Got some specific questions 207 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: to ask you about Virginia Roberts. Maxwell replied, have some 208 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: info call me when you have a moment. Roberts sued 209 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: Andrew in twenty twenty one at a court in New 210 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: York for battery and infliction of emotional distress. They settled 211 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: the case in February of twenty twenty two for a 212 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: reported twelve million dollars. Andrew, of course, has always denied 213 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: any wrongdoing and told the BBC in an interview that 214 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: he never remembered meeting Roberts, who now lives in Australia 215 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: and goes. 216 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: By her married name. 217 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: These over one hundred and seventy high profile associates being 218 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: named is exactly what should happen. It should have happened, 219 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: by the way, a long time ago. It should have 220 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: happened a very long time ago. And the fact that 221 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: it took this long, and by the way, I'm glad 222 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: that this is happening. I'm glad that it coming out. 223 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: I think it's important that it's coming out now. But 224 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: you've got over one hundred and seventy of Jeffrey Epstein's 225 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: high profile associates that will be named in court documents 226 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: set to be unsealed, and these people are going to 227 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: be terrified of what we're going to finally get to 228 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: see as a public. What I also think is incredibly 229 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: frustrating is how many of these men who victimized and 230 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: had sex and or raped underage girls still are in 231 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: massive positions of power and have been flourishing because their 232 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: names have been protected. That's something else that needs to 233 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: be talked about. It's not just the fact that they 234 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: deserve to be held accountable for what they have I 235 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: think done in these horrific sexual abuse of underage girls, 236 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: but it's the fact that the entire system has been 237 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: protecting them. You know, Jeffrey Epstein's death and and I 238 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: you know, I don't believe that he hung himself. I 239 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: want to be clear. I don't believe that the cameras 240 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: are accidentally not working on that night. I don't believe 241 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: that the recorders were accidentally turned off. I don't believe 242 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: any of that. I think they're incredibly powerful men, Democrats 243 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: and Republicans from what I've been told, who are doing. 244 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: Everything they can to protect themselves. 245 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: I don't believe for a second that what happened with 246 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: his death was accurate. I think everybody has been lying 247 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: because there are such high profile I mean, look at 248 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: the words use a powerful president. 249 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: Of a foreign country. 250 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: She says, there was a part of this ring, top executives, 251 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: top CEOs, members of the royal family. 252 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: What else do you need? Seriously, what else do you need? 253 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: But when there are this many people that are this big, 254 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: they have power, they have they to protect themselves, they 255 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: have the ability to at all costs. And this, let 256 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: me compare this to one thing with the Biden crime family. 257 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: When you're so powerful and you have so much on 258 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: so many people that even when you do fall from grace, 259 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: there's still people that need to protect you. 260 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: And that's how Jeffrey Epstein set this up. 261 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: Very much the same way that the Biden crime family 262 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: has been set up. Right, you have other people that 263 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: if I go down, you go down with me. Right, 264 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: you want to tell the dirty laundry? Fine, guess what 265 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: everybody goes down? So there is a protection here. I mean, 266 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: we've been told that they had videotapes that Epstein had 267 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: of hidden cameras that are that Apparently the FBI has 268 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: had for years, blackmail videos that Epstein had so people 269 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: would come in that were high powered he would put 270 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: from what we understand, he had hidden cameras in rooms 271 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: where they were doing their sexual acts, and that was 272 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: his way of protecting himself, like, hey, you come after me, 273 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: or you don't do what I need for you, and 274 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: guess what happens. 275 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: You want to play that game, then let's play that game. 276 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: That's I mean, it's unbelievable. 277 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: It's absolutely unbelievable. Let me also say this about Epstein 278 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: because again this is a these one hundred and seventy 279 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: of Jeffrey Epstein's high profile. 280 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: Associates that are going to be named. Why did this 281 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: take so long? 282 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: Why why is it that he was protected for so 283 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: long even after his death. It's not about him, It's 284 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: because the people around him know what's going to happen. 285 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: I want to play for you, Jeffrey Berman, he's used 286 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: attorney for the Southern District of New York, and what 287 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: he had to say to press conference this is back 288 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: in twenty and nineteen, about Jeffrey Epstein and the victims 289 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: around him, and by the way, the many people that 290 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: abused these women as well. 291 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 4: Listen, I was fourteen years old at the time that 292 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: they were allegedly abused. As alleged, Epstein was well aware 293 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: that many of his victims were miners, and not surprisingly, 294 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 4: many of the underage girls that Epstein allegedly victimized were 295 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: particularly vulnerable to exploitation. The alleged behavior shocks the conscience, 296 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: and while the charge conduct is from a number of 297 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: years ago, it is still profoundly important to the many 298 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: alleged victims, now young women. They deserved their day in court, 299 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 4: and we are proud to be standing up for them 300 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 4: by bringing this indictment. Combating sex trafficking and exploitation of 301 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: children is a priority for this office and for the 302 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 4: Department of Justice, as the sexual abuse of a minor 303 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: can have devastating effects on victims, often lasting for years. 304 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: That is why my office will not rest until perpetrators 305 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: of these types of crimes are brought to justice. Victims voices, 306 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 4: including the many voices of Epstein's alleged victims, must be heard. 307 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 4: To that end, I want to say, and. 308 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 2: Let me jump back in here and just say he 309 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: lied to you, the last part that he said there. 310 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: They deserve their day in court and we are proud 311 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: to be standing up for them by bringing this indictment. 312 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: Combating sex trafficking and exploitation of children as a priority 313 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: for this office and the Department of Justice, as the 314 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: sexual abuse of a minor can have devastating effects on victims, 315 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: often lasting for years. It's why my office will not 316 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: rest until perpetrators of these types of crimes are brought 317 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: to justice. Victims voices, including the many voices of Epstein's 318 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: alleged victims, must be heard. The problem is that's a 319 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: lie because not a single person has been. 320 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Arrested, and that that was a. 321 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: Client of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell. You've got the highest 322 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: level of of world leaders, of executives who were partaking 323 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: in the abuse, the sexual abuse and sex trafficking of minors, 324 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: and the Democratic Party with this US Attorney in the 325 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: Southern District of New York said, we're going to make 326 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: sure we get them. 327 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: None of it happened. 328 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: Let me let me remind you when Bill Quinton got 329 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: asked about his connection to Jeffrey Epstein and Epstein Island, 330 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: and remember he was there several times. Take a listen 331 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: to what he had to say when he was asked 332 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: about it. 333 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 4: And he comments, on your allegation of your thought production 334 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: with Jeffrey. 335 00:20:49,440 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: Epstein, Bills, if you looked at the camera and laughed, 336 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: He's like, I think the evidence is clear. Ha ha, 337 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: he laughs, He looks at the Cameron laughs. There are 338 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: pictures of Bill Clinton receiving back massages by those that 339 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: were abused by Jeffrey Epstein. 340 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: We know this, Hugh Hewitt saying back. 341 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: In twenty and sixteen on MSNBC, this about Jeffrey Epstein 342 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: and Bill Clinton directly. 343 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: Crossing the line how Donald Trump behaved with women in private. 344 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 3: The woman we're talking about here, Rowayanne Brewer Lane, was 345 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: the lead anecdote they used in this story. She's saying 346 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 3: he was a gentleman. These are her words. She's saying 347 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: he was a gentleman toward me. There were no issues. 348 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 3: I had no problem with him whatsoever. The Times twisted this. 349 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: You heard the Time statement there, this is from the 350 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: last few minutes. 351 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: What's your reaction to it? 352 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 5: My reaction in New York Times is not covering itself 353 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 5: in glory here, Steve. My first reaction when I saw 354 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 5: the piece yesterday was I wonder if there is any 355 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 5: similar piece on Bill Clinton from May of nineteen ninety. 356 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: Two, And of course there isn't. 357 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 5: There was some coverage of Jennifer Flowers, but no in 358 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 5: depth reporting on Bill Clinton's past relationship with women to 359 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 5: whom he was not married. So I think the double 360 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 5: standard has. 361 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: Already at play. 362 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 5: And then to have one of your key participants in 363 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 5: the story step forward and say that she has been 364 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 5: mischaracterized on the Morning After is a significant hit on 365 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 5: the New York Times. I'd also add that this morning 366 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 5: on Morning Joe, the name Jeffrey Epstein came up for 367 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 5: the first time, and Bill Clinton Jeffrey Epstein. That's not 368 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 5: a Google search that the Clinton campaign really wants to 369 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 5: have people undertaking on a daily basis. 370 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: So at the end of this news. 371 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 5: Cycle or halfway through this news cycle, I don't think 372 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 5: it's helping Hillary Clinton to be talking about the past 373 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 5: infidelities or alleged improprieties of any candidate or their. 374 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: Spouse right now. 375 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: By the way, what he said there about Epstein, that 376 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: was back in twenty sixteen, the New York Times of 377 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: this hit piece on Trump the people. They were saying 378 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: that he was acting inappropriately with I said, no, that's 379 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: not true at all. 380 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: They twisted the headlines. 381 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: But it's Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton out at Google 382 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: search the Clinton campaign once I couldn't agree more. You know, 383 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: Democrats defended Epstein. They defended Epstein at all costs. There 384 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: was also something else that happened. It was the Plea deal, 385 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: the Epstein Plea Deal. Many referred to it as a 386 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: example of a rigged system. Steve Hilton on Fox saying 387 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: this back in twenty nineteen. 388 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 6: Trace, thank you very much here now, Steve Hilton, host 389 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 6: of the Next Revolution. There are a lot of people, Steve, 390 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 6: who do not want this story to see the light 391 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 6: of day. 392 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: Again, that's exactly right. 393 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 7: But it's really important that we do for exactly those 394 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 7: facts that Trace laid out there so brilliantly. This is 395 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 7: a really outrageous example of something that people have been 396 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 7: complaining about more and more of the last few years. 397 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 7: We hear it all the time, the rigged system. And 398 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 7: I'd ask people to think about it like this. Everyone 399 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 7: who thinks that Hillary Clinton, for example, and the Clintons, 400 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 7: the way that they've been treated by the justice system 401 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 7: means that there's one rule for the rich and the 402 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 7: powerful and the well connected and one for everyone else. 403 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 7: It's exactly the same here for this monster. And that's 404 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 7: what he is. He's a pedophile monster, this guy Epstein. 405 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 7: And it turns out because you've got friends like Alexandra 406 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 7: Costa in your pocket back then in Florida, you get 407 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 7: away with a sentence that no one else who didn't 408 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 7: have that wealth and those connections would do. And if 409 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 7: there's one rule for the Clintons should be the same. 410 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: Here he should go. 411 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 6: It's pretty incredible thirteen month sentence, and he was allowed 412 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 6: to leave six days a week, so he pretty much 413 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 6: had free reign to do whatever he wanted one he 414 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 6: was supposedly incarcerated. This is a statement from mister Acosta 415 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 6: back in twenty eleven on this case. He says, the 416 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 6: bottom line is, mister Jeffrey Epstein a billionaire, served time 417 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 6: in jail and is now a registered sex offender. He's 418 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 6: been required to pay his victims restitution. The restitution clearly 419 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 6: cannot compensate for the crime. But there's some really great 420 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 6: reporting that it was done by the Miami Herald on 421 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 6: this story and they spoke to a lot of these 422 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 6: women and what their concern is that they were never 423 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 6: told that a deal was being made and they feel 424 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 6: like they never got their day to tell their story 425 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 6: before he was sentenced. 426 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 7: That's exactly right, and that's what's been investigated now, and 427 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 7: it looks like that that itself was a crime on 428 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 7: the part of the prosecutors. They didn't follow the rules. 429 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 7: So in that statement from the Labor Department saying, well, 430 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 7: he followed that it was all agreed by the high 431 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 7: ups and he was just following procedure. First of all, 432 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 7: it's disgusting to hide behind the kind of bureaucratic fine 433 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 7: print in that way and not take responsibility. But secondly, 434 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 7: it doesn't even look as if it was true. And 435 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 7: there's another thing I'd say, It's like, look fine, he 436 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 7: may be doing it a good job as labor secretary. 437 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't have any reason to doubt that. 438 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 7: I mean, obviously we've got a very good economy, people 439 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 7: are getting jobs. 440 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: That's great. 441 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 7: But honestly, if there's no accountability here, if something like 442 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 7: this can happen, if a monster like this can get 443 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 7: away with this, and people can see all the facts 444 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 7: and see that nothing is done about it, and that 445 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 7: Alexandro Cosa just sails on without taking responsibility, it will 446 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 7: further undermine everyone's confidence in our entire system of governance. 447 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: Great points, Uh, he got a deal, then they protected him. 448 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: He went home six out of seven days a week 449 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: while it was supposed to be in jail, and they 450 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: made sure that all this went away from him so 451 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: he could then do it again. And the people that 452 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: were protecting him are the people that I'm sure he 453 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: could blackmail that he had on tapes, and that was 454 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 2: his in essence, get out of jail free card at 455 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: least six out of seven days a week while he 456 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: was supposed to be in jail, and then he got 457 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: back out and he was. 458 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: Able to do it all over again. 459 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: Make sure you share this podcast with your family and 460 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: your friends, and make sure you write us a five 461 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: sure of you so we can reach more people. And 462 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 2: I'll see you back here tomorrow.