Speaker 1: Welcome to a ridiculous romo. Yeah, we sing are are welcome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: give one of your classic Diana singing trows. Hey y'all,
Speaker 1: how you doing out there? I hope you're feeling so
Speaker 1: so good? Wow it looks a little like nineties kind
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah it felt good. I was like, so
Speaker 1: so good. I was like, that's a grocery store. Oh sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah that's weird. You said grocery store. I thought like
Speaker 1: and Vogue or something. I was hearing some like cool
Speaker 1: ran the tune. Oh wow, okay, look no, I don't
Speaker 1: sound like okay, we're talking about here. Stop an insult
Speaker 1: to say, you know you're the top of the mountain.
Speaker 1: If I if you sang a Beyonce song and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you were fantastic. I mean you you
Speaker 1: know Beyonce you can't get out of can't you know?
Speaker 1: If I gave an incredible perform in a movie and
Speaker 1: you said, oh, you were phenomenal, but you're no Jesse Plemons,
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say, how dare you? Jesse Clemons
Speaker 1: is a very good actor. It's very good. I guess
Speaker 1: I see it. It's still offended. Jesse Clemons is the
Speaker 1: Beyonce of movie actors. Yes, I feel everyone gets some
Speaker 1: notes about that. Can I just say, speaking of actors,
Speaker 1: we got to go see Glass Onion. Just telling y'all
Speaker 1: it's so good and everyone in it is amazing, amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Janelle Monae so good. Her Edward Norton. Edward Norton is
Speaker 1: the Jesse Plemons of Beyonce's. Huh's a little tangled up
Speaker 1: for me? Maybe someone me what you read? I'm not
Speaker 1: sure which brings me my ex point. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: sick again. I'm so mad about it. I've got another
Speaker 1: call old. Yeah. Meanwhile, I feel amazing. I've been cooking
Speaker 1: dinners for you, and you still don't get my sicknesses.
Speaker 1: You hear that servers go to work sick, it does nothing.
Speaker 1: Hear that everybody make your six spouses cook dinner for you.
Speaker 1: Still I didn't make you. How dare you anyway? A
Speaker 1: little loopy right now and definitely voices a little off, y'all.
Speaker 1: Can tell you listen to this show so much, you know,
Speaker 1: and if you're a new listener, uh, it doesn't always
Speaker 1: sound like this. I don't know if that's better or worse.
Speaker 1: You kind of gave it like a sex. New listeners,
Speaker 1: It's not always this good. You know you tuned in.
Speaker 1: This is and lo dinner. I cooked it myself, even
Speaker 1: the one. You probably won't catch it. I'll catch your heart,
Speaker 1: but you'll catch my cold. Wow. What a what a slogan.
Speaker 1: That's your restaurants slogan. Oh wait, the restaurant's theme is
Speaker 1: that the chef is always sick. People like a theme.
Speaker 1: What do you can I say, Well, we got an
Speaker 1: episode to get to, so I got my hot tea here,
Speaker 1: so we got some hot stories to tell today, I said,
Speaker 1: hot stories. Today's episodes are about babies. I told you
Speaker 1: it's the it's the sickness, everybody. You're just gonna get
Speaker 1: some weird stuff today. All right, Look, this is ridiculous romance.
Speaker 1: We tell stories about romance on this show. And romance
Speaker 1: and babies go together like peanut butter and chocolate, you know,
Speaker 1: because like you can have peanut butter without chocolate. Of course,
Speaker 1: romance being peanut butter, babies being chocolate. In this particular situation,
Speaker 1: you can also have chocolate without peanut butter if you want.
Speaker 1: And I hear it's a life changing experience. Chocolate isn't
Speaker 1: for everyone. And some people hate peanut butter, and that's okay.
Speaker 1: I mean personally, I love peanut butter. I put it
Speaker 1: on anything. Honestly, peanut butter and romance go together for
Speaker 1: me like chocolate and chocolate. Anyway, Look, it's a little
Speaker 1: lost in the metaphor here, but the point is we're
Speaker 1: talking about babies today. Babies, and we're gonna start with
Speaker 1: a woman who used pregnancy to scam money out of
Speaker 1: her government job. And then we're gonna move on and
Speaker 1: talk about a woman who really defied the odds by
Speaker 1: having babies of her own. And finally we'll talk about
Speaker 1: an ancient baby that was found inside of mummy. Very
Speaker 1: exciting stuff. So I say we jump right into it
Speaker 1: and get these baby stories. Lets go, hey, their French,
Speaker 1: come listen. Well, Elia and Diana got some stories to tell.
Speaker 1: There's no matchmaking, a romantic tips. It's just about particulous relationships,
Speaker 1: a love it might be any type of person at all,
Speaker 1: and abstract cons and drawing a concrete all. But if
Speaker 1: there's a story, were the second clinch Ridiculous roles A
Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Okay, so before we get
Speaker 1: to the babies today. We gotta do a little bit
Speaker 1: of housekeeping, right because you know, we said some things
Speaker 1: and then we got a message, so it's time for
Speaker 1: us to go into corrections corner. You're such a loser.
Speaker 1: This correction comes to us from Josh Green. Hi, Josh,
Speaker 1: thank you for emailing us. This is very vital information.
Speaker 1: Vital information now right, Um, this is from our Collette
Speaker 1: Part three episode, if you call our Collette series, where
Speaker 1: we were talking about um uh, the language of flowers
Speaker 1: and now gay people in the twenties, we're using like
Speaker 1: violets and carnations to sort of advertise, subbly advertised to
Speaker 1: one another who they were and what they were into
Speaker 1: and stuff. And we mentioned that there was something like
Speaker 1: a handkerchief code, right that we thought was happened kind
Speaker 1: of around the two thousands, and it was like what
Speaker 1: color handkerchief you wore in your back pocket and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But I learned about it anyway. That's right, Well,
Speaker 1: Josh had the goods. He writes, quote, I haven't heard
Speaker 1: a correction to this episode for it yet, But the
Speaker 1: handkerchief coding you mentioned in the episode, also known as
Speaker 1: the hanky code, was more of a common occurrence in
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies as a way of advertising yourself quietly
Speaker 1: across the country, but more commonly in larger cities. The
Speaker 1: position and color of the handkerchief was important to disclose
Speaker 1: what you were looking for. Worn in the back left
Speaker 1: pocket means you are a top, back right means you're
Speaker 1: a bottom. And then the colors, such as a white
Speaker 1: means you're into come orange means you're into anything, anywhere,
Speaker 1: everything everywhere, all at once handkerchief and blue means you
Speaker 1: want to fuck, and light blue means oral. The color
Speaker 1: codes get rather specific, but pore colors tended to be
Speaker 1: the most common. So when I said that a black
Speaker 1: and white polka dot handkerchief in your pocket indicated that
Speaker 1: you wanted to be tied up in a dungeon, uh,
Speaker 1: it might not have gotten that complicated. Maybe not that complicated,
Speaker 1: Josh goes on. The practice fell out of favor in
Speaker 1: the mid to late eighties, but did make a comeback
Speaker 1: in the early two thousands of your Head as more
Speaker 1: of a club bar scene flagging. Now this practice is
Speaker 1: still going on, but many types of people wear hankies
Speaker 1: in their back pockets, and it can be weird to
Speaker 1: hit on a guy who has a hanky but turns
Speaker 1: out to be very straight. Josh, thank you for that,
Speaker 1: because that was very comprehensive. I did not know all
Speaker 1: right well enough about sex. It's time to get into
Speaker 1: the consequences of sex. Today. We're telling these baby stories,
Speaker 1: and our first one today is about Robin Fulsome right
Speaker 1: here in the Great State of Georgia. Oh g A
Speaker 1: represent h Robin Folsom was working for the Georgia Vocational
Speaker 1: Rehabilitation Agency or the g v r A, as the
Speaker 1: director of External Affairs. G v r A is a
Speaker 1: government agency which, in their own words, quote helps people
Speaker 1: with disabilities find and maintain employment. Very important government agents, yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely now. Their services range from people who just need
Speaker 1: help obtaining hearing aids to people who need more assistance
Speaker 1: just moving physically through our very ablest world. You could say, yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: WSB local news station here reported that Robin was a
Speaker 1: quote top communications officer with a salary of about hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars per year. In October forty two years old,
Speaker 1: Robin delighted her co workers when she announced her pregnancy.
Speaker 1: This would be her second child, as she had just
Speaker 1: given birth a few months earlier in July pandemic babies, like,
Speaker 1: what else are we doing? She let the HR department know.
Speaker 1: She gave her due date as May one, and over
Speaker 1: the months, of course, she started to show and co
Speaker 1: workers congratulate her, talk about how excited for her they were. Then,
Speaker 1: as expected, on May Robin Folsom gave birth at Piedmont Hospital.
Speaker 1: Everything seen be going okay, but a few days later,
Speaker 1: on May six, Robin's boss has got an email from
Speaker 1: Robin's baby's father. His name was bran Ottomanbebwe, and he
Speaker 1: reported that Robin's doctor had mandated several weeks of rest
Speaker 1: following her delivery, and the g b r A exacts,
Speaker 1: you know, probably were like, well, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of our job to make sure people keep their jobs
Speaker 1: when they're met with hardships. Guess we got to respond
Speaker 1: well to this um So they gave her an extended leave,
Speaker 1: which included two hundred and sixty five hours or nearly
Speaker 1: seven weeks of paid time off. It's pretty good, pretty good,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Previously, the state of Georgia allowed government
Speaker 1: employees to take up to twelve weeks of unpaid parent
Speaker 1: to leave. That was established in the Family and Medical
Speaker 1: League Act was actually a federal thing. This was putting
Speaker 1: a place during Bill Clinton's first term, and it protected
Speaker 1: people from getting fired if they had a new child,
Speaker 1: or if they had to take care of a sick
Speaker 1: family member, or if they themselves had a major injury
Speaker 1: or illness. It was like, you know, I have to
Speaker 1: stay home. You don't have to pay me, but I
Speaker 1: can't come to work. Please don't fire me. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: give you three months get back. Exactly, it must have
Speaker 1: been really important. I mean, I can't imagine before that
Speaker 1: just getting fired because you had to stay home because
Speaker 1: you broke your leg or something. You know, many women
Speaker 1: could probably tell you how many times they have jobs
Speaker 1: for getting pregnant. Yeah, definitely, definitely, but yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 1: But you can imagine a lot of people didn't take
Speaker 1: advantage of this because twelve weeks away from your job,
Speaker 1: unpaid and exactly something you can afford to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't have of expenses? Hell no, just hanging out then
Speaker 1: the old bank account. Yeah. But then Georgia legislators put
Speaker 1: forth House Bill one four six, which would grant state
Speaker 1: government employees who either birth, adopt, or foster a child
Speaker 1: paide for a period of up to three weeks. Three weeks,
Speaker 1: three weeks, and oh well, you know it makes sense
Speaker 1: because at three weeks an infant is fully able to
Speaker 1: take care of itself should be down to the factory
Speaker 1: already threatened needles with those little hands. Interestingly, the bill
Speaker 1: says that you don't have to use all one, D
Speaker 1: and twenty hours at once. You can use them as
Speaker 1: needed quote, provided that such leave usage does not unduly
Speaker 1: disrupt the operations of the applicable employing entity. Which it's like,
Speaker 1: that's such a dumb thing to say, because if my
Speaker 1: absence was not unduly disrupted, I probably wouldn't have a job,
Speaker 1: Like they wouldn't need me, so there would be no
Speaker 1: need for me to work. As long as your company
Speaker 1: doesn't realize you're gone, you can take up to three
Speaker 1: weeks off. I just don't see, I don't know. That
Speaker 1: is so crazy, you know. So anyway, retail workers don't
Speaker 1: adopt a child near Christmas time. They don't want your
Speaker 1: calling out. Absolutely, who wouldn't look at that bill? You know? What?
Speaker 1: What boss? You know, surely the kind hearted bosses out there,
Speaker 1: But how many have I had that would have looked
Speaker 1: at that and said, yeah, well, I can't give you
Speaker 1: this time now busy, it's the busiest time of the year,
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, right, you're coming in, bring the baby
Speaker 1: with you if you have to strap it onto your
Speaker 1: back and get in here now. Interestingly, the Governor's office
Speaker 1: signed this bill into state law on May five, just
Speaker 1: a day before the g v R A got that
Speaker 1: email from brand Oatman Babewe. So lucky for her, this
Speaker 1: was just signed into law. So it seemed like she
Speaker 1: was about to get at least three weeks of pt
Speaker 1: O that was state mandated. Now, incredible timing, and she
Speaker 1: managed to get seven weeks out at them. So g
Speaker 1: v R a very generous you know, compared to what
Speaker 1: they had to give her. Robin was set for the
Speaker 1: next six and a half weeks. She was able to
Speaker 1: continue to collect your salary without having to leave her
Speaker 1: babies at home and going to work. But something wasn't
Speaker 1: adding up here. We don't know exactly what was seen
Speaker 1: or how, but WSP reported that a colleague quote witnessed
Speaker 1: what appeared to be a portion of fulsome stomach come
Speaker 1: away from her body. Come away, horrifying part of your
Speaker 1: stomach came off, like did it flap up like a shirt? Might?
Speaker 1: You know, like a flap? Oh? Yeah, Like she reached
Speaker 1: up for a couple, like for a mug from one
Speaker 1: of the break room cabinets up high, and they're like,
Speaker 1: why your stomach came off? There's stomach attached. What is happening?
Speaker 1: She's like, Oh, that baby be kicking. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'd like a David Cronenberg movie. What is happening? Got jesus?
Speaker 1: So that was a weird thing to see, obviously, And
Speaker 1: whispers started going around the office, and so they started
Speaker 1: kind of comparing notes with each other and realized that
Speaker 1: when they compared pictures that Robin had sent her coworkers
Speaker 1: of her baby, they all looked different. They were just
Speaker 1: like random baby pictures with totally different skin tones weird,
Speaker 1: which is very odd. Yeah, now, somebody must have gotten
Speaker 1: this back to HR or at least rumors eventually circulated
Speaker 1: back there, because there was definitely something baby about these fishies.
Speaker 1: They excuse me, there, I told you I love baby
Speaker 1: about these fishes. There was something fishy about these babies.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. Um, we should just move on from that one.
Speaker 1: We do have a fish and I think there's something
Speaker 1: baby about there is something baby about our fish. Anyway,
Speaker 1: HR had to bring this issue to the State Inspector
Speaker 1: General Scott McAfee. His office interviewed employees, they evaluated the
Speaker 1: pictures that she had sent them, and they eventually reached
Speaker 1: out directly to Piedmont Hospital and they learned that there
Speaker 1: was no record of Robin giving birth at the hospital.
Speaker 1: There were no birth certificates on file. And not only that,
Speaker 1: but after reaching out to the Georgia Office of Vital Records,
Speaker 1: they learned that there was quote no indication that Robin
Speaker 1: Folsom had ever delivered a child, even her first child
Speaker 1: was alive. He had no babies. All this must have
Speaker 1: taken a while, which I get if you've ever asked
Speaker 1: for a record from anywhere, it takes a fucking forever. Um.
Speaker 1: So it probably took a while because Robin herself was
Speaker 1: not interviewed by investigators until October, and she was asked
Speaker 1: about her other children. She claimed to have three in
Speaker 1: total at this point, and brand outman Bebewe was a
Speaker 1: real person, and she insisted, they're my children. Of course
Speaker 1: they're real. The dad's real. I mean, come on, I
Speaker 1: have a whole family here that I go home to
Speaker 1: every night. But of course nobody could find any evidence
Speaker 1: that Mr Oatman Babewe existed. And I gotta say, I
Speaker 1: feel like she gave herself away here. And if I
Speaker 1: was the investigator, the first thing I would have said
Speaker 1: was Oatman Babewe. That sounds an awful lot like not
Speaker 1: my baby, So I'd feel like that was just planted there,
Speaker 1: she added herself. Right, I would have just chosen a
Speaker 1: name harder to to run down. It's a very unique name,
Speaker 1: like his name is to be like John Smith. You know,
Speaker 1: they could have been looking for years, right, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find that guy. So it wasn't long before Robin
Speaker 1: Folsom was indicted on three felony counts of false statements
Speaker 1: and one felony count of identity fraud. Shortly after this
Speaker 1: interview with the State Inspector General, she resigned from her position,
Speaker 1: and at the g v R a WSB estimated that,
Speaker 1: based on her salary, she had received between ten and
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars in maternity pay, which she was obviously
Speaker 1: not entitled to. She was given a court date of
Speaker 1: April four two, where she faced a maximum of twenty
Speaker 1: five years in prison and up to a hundred and
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars in fines. McAfee said that in all,
Speaker 1: she faked three pregnancies, but her inventing the father with
Speaker 1: a fake email address is really why she got hit
Speaker 1: with the identity for all. But in court, her lawyer
Speaker 1: said that she wanted Quote to accept responsibility for the
Speaker 1: crimes and move forward with her life in the most
Speaker 1: private way that she can, and she pled guilty to
Speaker 1: all four counts. She managed to only be sentenced to
Speaker 1: five years of probation, a psychiatric evaluation, followed by any
Speaker 1: treatment deemed necessary, and she had to pay a little
Speaker 1: over twelve thousand dollars in restitute into the state. I
Speaker 1: think that sounds really reasonable to me, actually, because it's like,
Speaker 1: if she gives the money back, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say no harm because obviously there was like a
Speaker 1: lot of time where she was away from work. Were like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if other people had to pick up
Speaker 1: her work, or if there was stuff not getting done.
Speaker 1: You know, she'sn't a public assistance program. I feel like
Speaker 1: somebody missed out on something there probably um, but you know,
Speaker 1: also twenty five years in prison, A hundred thousand dollars, fine,
Speaker 1: you know, more vindictive than it's been approportionately punitive. But
Speaker 1: but it sounds like this twelve grand was what she
Speaker 1: was given and she had to pay it back, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go make sure that you're not a compulsive liar
Speaker 1: who needs some treatment. Right, we should probably get you
Speaker 1: checked out. That's a weird thing to do, especially, I
Speaker 1: mean going into the office. You know, people can see
Speaker 1: your belly. Like I could see this being like a
Speaker 1: good remote work scamp. You like, you know you're faking it,
Speaker 1: but like, who's seeing it? No one. You had a
Speaker 1: little soundboard next year zoom with baby sound effects. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's crying again. I gotta go everybody. Um, But yeah,
Speaker 1: she had to, like legit put a fake I guess
Speaker 1: different stages of pregnancy bellies. I mean, this is some
Speaker 1: real commitment to the bit. Yeah. Seriously. Now I have
Speaker 1: some thoughts because interestingly, though this was supposedly her third
Speaker 1: fake pregnancy, there's no evidence that she ever collected any
Speaker 1: unemployment from the first two, so speculation station. I think
Speaker 1: that originally she was just looking for time off. I
Speaker 1: think she just wanted. I mean, she had a hundred
Speaker 1: grand of years just probably like you know what, I
Speaker 1: just I know that nine months from now, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: want like a month vacation, so I'll take the unpaid
Speaker 1: twelve weeks or whatever. Yeah, I'm having a baby, everybody
Speaker 1: next August, right when I booked my cruise, you know
Speaker 1: or something. But then, you know, coincidentally, very conveniently, right
Speaker 1: after she you know, fake delivered this baby and Governor
Speaker 1: Kemp signed bill in law, she was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: maybe i'll press my luck a little and see if
Speaker 1: I can get some of that money too. And that,
Speaker 1: of course was her undoing exactly. That was that was
Speaker 1: her downfall. But I do remember this is very very
Speaker 1: reminiscent of when I had my first restaurant job, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I should be allowed to
Speaker 1: take a non smoker's break. I deserved five minutes outside.
Speaker 1: Just because I don't smoke does not mean that I
Speaker 1: should not also get a little break. Well, speaking of
Speaker 1: a little break, yes, yes, so yes, that's the woman
Speaker 1: who faked having three babies. But after our non smoking break,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about a woman who had three
Speaker 1: very real babies. Even though everyone's older that she would
Speaker 1: never survive it, and we'll get to that right after this.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. Well enough fake babies. Yeah, now we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about a very real woman who had
Speaker 1: some very real babies. Her name was Stacy Harold. And
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil anything up front here, but look,
Speaker 1: this is kind of a sweet story, and it's a
Speaker 1: more recent story, so I feel like I should tell
Speaker 1: you now and not hit you with a big sad
Speaker 1: note at the end that Stacy is no longer with us,
Speaker 1: but her story is very worth telling. I just I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just feel like, you know, we often
Speaker 1: tell stories that are like from hundreds of years ago,
Speaker 1: so you know that person is gone, but you know
Speaker 1: this was from the twos So I don't want to
Speaker 1: tell this very uplifting story and then be like whomp, whomp,
Speaker 1: now be sad. So just get that out of the
Speaker 1: way now, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stacy was born in dry Ridge, Kentucky,
Speaker 1: and she was working as a cashier at a local
Speaker 1: grocery store in the year two thousand when she met
Speaker 1: Will Harold in the checkoutline. The two immediately hit it off.
Speaker 1: They started dating, not long after I would watch a
Speaker 1: Hallmark movie about cashier meeting her soul made at the
Speaker 1: checkout line. Of course, I could totally see the cover
Speaker 1: and everything. We don't watch enough Hallmark movies. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's happened. I feel right. Actually, you're right that it does.
Speaker 1: It probably exists. I think I just got hit with
Speaker 1: the copyright lawsuit while sitting here. So Will was nine
Speaker 1: years younger than Stacy, but that was not their biggest difference.
Speaker 1: He was also three and a half feet taller. Now
Speaker 1: Will not a freakishly tall man. He's an average American
Speaker 1: male height of five ft nine, but Stacy was only
Speaker 1: two ft four. Stacy is only two ft four because
Speaker 1: she was born with a condition called osteo genesis imperfecta,
Speaker 1: and this is also known as brittle bone disease. The
Speaker 1: oh I Foundation at o i f dot org says
Speaker 1: that the major feature of oh I is an extremely
Speaker 1: fragile skeleton, and this can include symptoms such as bone
Speaker 1: deformity and pain, brittle teeth, respiratory problems, cardiac issues, and
Speaker 1: short stature. Basically, your body can't grow taller to support
Speaker 1: itself well. The oh I Foundation says that quote with
Speaker 1: good medical management and supportive care. The majority of people
Speaker 1: who have oh I will lead healthy, productive lives and
Speaker 1: can expect an average lifespan. And two thousand four, Stacy
Speaker 1: and Will got married and they started to talk about
Speaker 1: whether they would have children. But as Stacy had known
Speaker 1: for most of her life, pregnancies are very difficult and
Speaker 1: risky for people with oh I. A study on the
Speaker 1: American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology says that women with
Speaker 1: oh I have higher rates of gestational diabetes and much
Speaker 1: higher needs for blood transfusions and cesarean deliveries than the
Speaker 1: general population, and they also face a higher likelihood of
Speaker 1: postpartum fractures and hospitalization. And baby is born to people
Speaker 1: with oh I have a fifty fifty chance of inheriting
Speaker 1: the genetic disorder and over a four times higher mortality
Speaker 1: rate within their first month of life. Whether not the
Speaker 1: condition with past to them, so lots of reasons not
Speaker 1: to yeah, a lot of complications present right, risk is
Speaker 1: much higher, many risks. Doctors warned Stacy that if she
Speaker 1: were to get pregnant, the baby could grow so large
Speaker 1: inside of her that it could crush her lungs and
Speaker 1: heart because you imagine a developing baby is going to
Speaker 1: reach its average side, and that only two ft four
Speaker 1: that's tall. I know, I mean average women get all
Speaker 1: crowded down there right now. It's it must be. I
Speaker 1: can't even imagine it, really, And that's not to mention
Speaker 1: the risks of her breaking bones like her ribs and
Speaker 1: her pelvis and her spine um. So Stacy said, but
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going to let a couple
Speaker 1: of crushed lungs get in my way. I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: She said, quote all my life, my parents had told
Speaker 1: me that I could do anything. So she wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: hear it when these doctors told her that she couldn't
Speaker 1: have a baby. And Mary Beth hugh Or, who's the
Speaker 1: director of programs for the o i F, said, quote,
Speaker 1: we believe it's a personal decision. Many who have bone
Speaker 1: deformity to the pelvis can carry a child and give birth. So,
Speaker 1: with the risks fully acknowledged, she and Will got pregnant
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, and she said, friends, family,
Speaker 1: their doctors all begged them to reconsider, but she told them, quote,
Speaker 1: it's a miracle that I'm here, that I have life.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't this be a miracle too? Totally fair but
Speaker 1: very scary. It must every day must have just felt
Speaker 1: very like, who kay, how are we today? You know?
Speaker 1: But she went through with the pregnancy, and of course
Speaker 1: it did have its complications, but she carried the child
Speaker 1: for twenty eight weeks before needing a cesarean section. That's early.
Speaker 1: It is early. I think that's right. We should know,
Speaker 1: we know, we shouldn't have to know that. We don't
Speaker 1: have babies, and we're not doctors who in something like that.
Speaker 1: Nine months is thirty six weeks? I know it's not
Speaker 1: exactly right. It's something like it's it's like forty We'll
Speaker 1: get an answering machine. Somebody tell us the very easy
Speaker 1: to answer question that I could google right now. We'll
Speaker 1: get like corrections corner Google at jeez. Well, she got
Speaker 1: to twenty eight weeks. They gave her a C section,
Speaker 1: and her daughter could Terry was born at only two
Speaker 1: pounds and one that is very small. The family soon
Speaker 1: learned that her daughter had indeed inherited her mother's condition,
Speaker 1: so they knew that it would be a challenge, but
Speaker 1: all three of them were healthy and safe. Then a
Speaker 1: year later, Stacy became pregnant again. She said, the same
Speaker 1: old run around. This time around. Everyone said, you know
Speaker 1: you pressed your luck the first time, Please don't go
Speaker 1: through this again. Stacy and Will very religious people. Will
Speaker 1: was even in training to be a vicar at the time.
Speaker 1: So they threw it all to God. They said they
Speaker 1: were going to pray their way through it. And Stacy
Speaker 1: said to ABC News that, you know, her parents told
Speaker 1: that she wouldn't make it, but she did. And Will
Speaker 1: her husband had once fallen off the back of a
Speaker 1: truck and they said that he wasn't going to survive,
Speaker 1: but he did. So they felt like they had already
Speaker 1: gotten through a few miracles. You know, what's a few more?
Speaker 1: I think? I feel like I feel like I've used up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to stay with what we got. I've got
Speaker 1: nine lives. I'm not going to start, you know, throwing around.
Speaker 1: So this time, Stacy was pregnant for thirty four weeks
Speaker 1: before they needed to get that baby out. Her second
Speaker 1: daughter was born in two eight. She was eighteen inches long,
Speaker 1: which is more than half of Stacy's entire her body.
Speaker 1: There are pictures of Stacy, you know, thirty weeks pregnant
Speaker 1: in some of the interviews with her, and it's it's
Speaker 1: fascinating to see you see the challenges that she would
Speaker 1: have to have gone through. So much of her physical
Speaker 1: body was taken up by baby by the belly. Yeah. Absolutely, Now,
Speaker 1: this new baby girl, Makaya did not inherit the genetic disorder.
Speaker 1: There goes that right there. And by the time she
Speaker 1: was two years old, both of Stacy's daughters were more
Speaker 1: than a foot taller than her. That must be really
Speaker 1: tough and be like eat your crackers whatever. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: raising two toddlers was complicated at times, but she said
Speaker 1: that with her husband Will being so supportive and helpful,
Speaker 1: they didn't have any trouble getting through the rough patches.
Speaker 1: She had a custom built wheelchair and platform that allowed
Speaker 1: her to bathe and change the kids, which Will was
Speaker 1: more than happy to do when she was too tired.
Speaker 1: Nice Will Way to be a dad, and their whole
Speaker 1: household was arranged so that Stacy could reach everything she
Speaker 1: would need when she was home alone with the kids.
Speaker 1: She's kind of reminded me of Alan Geenie. Too many
Speaker 1: have been thinking of them. I love them. If you
Speaker 1: haven't heard our Alan Genie. Too many story. It's we
Speaker 1: did in the first year. Uh, they were circus performers
Speaker 1: back in the Blood I mean early and he was
Speaker 1: the world's tallest man and she was the world's smallest woman.
Speaker 1: And uh, incredible difference between them, and they're they're the sweetest,
Speaker 1: most loving couple if we've ever done on the show.
Speaker 1: I love them so much. They're so cute. And also, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had made a very custom house for her so
Speaker 1: she could be really independent. Then in two thousand and ten,
Speaker 1: guess what, Stacy became pregnant again. At this point, you
Speaker 1: got to imagine people are just like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: you've proven it over and over again. You clearly got
Speaker 1: this down right. I mean, her doctors were still concerned.
Speaker 1: A geneticist named Dr Tinkle, which I'm gonna need a
Speaker 1: minute with just excuse me because I'm ten years old,
Speaker 1: a urologist or that's all I have to say. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this well respected man, Doctor Tinkle, had treated Stacy as well,
Speaker 1: and he told ABC News that they usually issue strong
Speaker 1: recommendations against pregnancy due to the risks of both mother
Speaker 1: and child, and Stacy did have more trouble with this pregnancy,
Speaker 1: and not just because she had two toddlers to deal
Speaker 1: with already, you know. She said that she physically couldn't
Speaker 1: help her daughter Macayah if she was upset, so Will
Speaker 1: would have to take care of any like tantrums or
Speaker 1: anything like that. They also at this time opened a
Speaker 1: small business called Terry's Corner, which dealt in second hand
Speaker 1: baby items, and that helped pale their medical bills. They said,
Speaker 1: they just did that part time, you know, they weren't
Speaker 1: trying to overwhelm themselves, but it gave them, you know,
Speaker 1: a little extra income that they needed. And the third
Speaker 1: pregnancy was difficult. Stacy was having a hard time moving around.
Speaker 1: She couldn't hold her youngest daughter, Macaiah because her belly
Speaker 1: was in the way. So eight weeks early, they had
Speaker 1: to deliver her new son through a cesarean section. His
Speaker 1: name was Malachi, and like her first daughter, he did
Speaker 1: inherit his mother's condition, but he was born with no
Speaker 1: broken bones, which Stacy described as a miracle because quote,
Speaker 1: people with our condition are often born with broken arms
Speaker 1: or legs. I guess as you're gettings squeezed out or
Speaker 1: pulled out, it's so easy to break, they said, Babies
Speaker 1: with this condition just changing a diaper can cause bone fractures.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, very delicate, like really really delicate,
Speaker 1: Stacy added quote finding out he had my condition was hard,
Speaker 1: but we knew we would be the best support possible
Speaker 1: for him because Terry and I have both been there already.
Speaker 1: Oh experts, I mean, who better? Absolutely now. In addition
Speaker 1: to having oh I, of course, Maliki was also very premature,
Speaker 1: so he faced a lot of challenges. He was only
Speaker 1: five inches long two pounds ten ounces. He had to
Speaker 1: be immediately placed in an incubator, and he caught a
Speaker 1: virus very early, only seventeen days old, and he had
Speaker 1: to have an emergency hernia surgery. Oh my god. Too
Speaker 1: many challenges, Stacy told Daily Mail quote. At one point
Speaker 1: they told us his heart had stopped and we thought
Speaker 1: he might not survive, but thankfully the doctors managed to
Speaker 1: save him. It felt like another miracle, and then after
Speaker 1: few more weeks, he was finally able to come home.
Speaker 1: Despite the risks, the danger, the ongoing difficulties, Stacy was
Speaker 1: so glad to have birthed three children and considered both
Speaker 1: herself and her baby's miracles. Despite the troubles that she faced,
Speaker 1: she and her husband will raised the babies into children
Speaker 1: with care, love and support. The Guinness World Records certified
Speaker 1: that she was the smallest mother in the world, and
Speaker 1: she said she hopes her story gives hope to other
Speaker 1: women who are told they could not have children. She
Speaker 1: told ABC News quote, I would tell those women, don't
Speaker 1: put limits on yourself, don't let people put limits on you,
Speaker 1: and for the grace of God, don't let anything stop you,
Speaker 1: which is a lovely sentiment. And also I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, listen to your doctors and don't put yourself
Speaker 1: in unnecessarily harm's way. But you know, I guess she's
Speaker 1: She said, it's true she had that choice right, and
Speaker 1: that Scott matters is that she was able to say,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm willing to risk it. You know, I'd
Speaker 1: rather do this than not. And it's not untrue that
Speaker 1: doctors are wrong sometimes. I mean, they'll be the first stay. Absolutely. Um.
Speaker 1: I know that. My aunt, who was an ob g
Speaker 1: way in she said she always said doctors were the
Speaker 1: very worst patience. They would never listen to their own doctor.
Speaker 1: So they're like, you're wrong. I know it's not you know,
Speaker 1: which I was like, Oh, I would hate to have
Speaker 1: a doctor at the base. No, they did say, quote,
Speaker 1: we listened to doctors and respect them, but they don't
Speaker 1: always get it right, so we end up doing what
Speaker 1: we feel is best. Right. They also kind of acknowledged similarly, like,
Speaker 1: you know, yes, doctors are smart, they are spent years studying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and but we're just going to do our thing. The
Speaker 1: next year, Stacy won the Miss Kentucky Wheelchair beauty pageants.
Speaker 1: I love it. There's a whole video of her winning.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. It's wonderful, little ceremony. That it was her
Speaker 1: third time participating, she said she always had so much
Speaker 1: fun doing it, and she said in her acceptance speech, quote,
Speaker 1: I guess after every thing I've achieved, all my accomplishments,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to come and encourage other people to
Speaker 1: get involved with this and just kind of do something fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why not love it. They spent the next seven years
Speaker 1: living a fairly normal life as far as we can tell.
Speaker 1: She said in Daily Mail that she believed that parenthood
Speaker 1: brought her and her husband even closer together than ever before,
Speaker 1: saying quote, I didn't think it was possible to love
Speaker 1: him more, But since we've had our son, I think
Speaker 1: I fall for Will a bit more each day. It
Speaker 1: sounds like Will really contributed and that that can really
Speaker 1: help my goodness that I think it's probably not that
Speaker 1: I would know, because again we don't have kids, but
Speaker 1: I would imagine it to be a very big turn
Speaker 1: off to have a kid with a guy who's like,
Speaker 1: I ain't touch on that thing until it's six years old,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, I got it. That would be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you think I'm suddenly so amazing
Speaker 1: cleaning up ship and vomit and stuff like anyone can
Speaker 1: do it. Get over here, all right now, I told
Speaker 1: you all this at the beginning, Okay, I'll warned you,
Speaker 1: so keep those eyes dry if you're out there listening
Speaker 1: to this while you're driving. August thirty one, Will Harold
Speaker 1: announced that his wife Stacy had passed away in her sleep.
Speaker 1: And we don't know the details, but she defied the odds.
Speaker 1: She found love, She brought life into the world. She
Speaker 1: spread joy to others. You know what a life? Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: ask her better than that, and you know, yeah she did.
Speaker 1: You know. She was like, this is important to me,
Speaker 1: and I know that it's hard, it's going to be
Speaker 1: it might even kill me, but that I need it,
Speaker 1: you know, that's what I want to do with myself.
Speaker 1: And so she did it, and I think that's awesome.
Speaker 1: It really is awesome. She got there. So good for you, Stacy.
Speaker 1: Good job, Stacy, way to be happy to tell your
Speaker 1: story here. Well, uh, that should bring us to a break.
Speaker 1: In the end of that story, we come back. We're
Speaker 1: gonna tell an ancient story about babies from beyond, Babies
Speaker 1: from the Bell, Mommies and babies. That's what we're getting
Speaker 1: to next. Stay tuned after the break and we will
Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back to the show, everybody. So yeah,
Speaker 1: our third story about little bit of babies is from
Speaker 1: a long time ago, and it has a triple twist.
Speaker 1: It's like a cool ice skating trip. So in a
Speaker 1: mummy and it's sarcophagus was donated to the University of Warsaw, Poland,
Speaker 1: and soon went on display in the National Museum in Warsaw,
Speaker 1: and it was quickly and simply labeled mummy of a lady.
Speaker 1: All right, Sure, I hope one day I'm into somewhere
Speaker 1: in a museum and it just says a guy, some guy,
Speaker 1: some guy, tell my story. My story. Now. Allegedly, this
Speaker 1: sarcophagus was found buried in the Royal Tombs of Thebes
Speaker 1: in Egypt, but according to The New York Times, scientists
Speaker 1: were not comfortable listing that as the definite place of
Speaker 1: origin because the apparently in the eighteen hundreds people were
Speaker 1: a little loose with the truth when they said where
Speaker 1: they had found archaeological artifacts, which kind of makes sense
Speaker 1: in so many ways. Yeah, right, because it might have
Speaker 1: been like, oh, yeah, I found this in a hidden
Speaker 1: tomb under the sad when they infect us, like stolen
Speaker 1: off the back of a truck, okay for real, or
Speaker 1: or or it's like I found it that I was
Speaker 1: somewhere I was supposed to be in. So I said,
Speaker 1: I got it from the place where I am supposed
Speaker 1: to be. So. Miss Mummy was on display in Warsaw
Speaker 1: for over a hundred and fifty years before in the
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties, year one thousand, nine hundred ninety, radiological exams
Speaker 1: led some scientists to believe that this wasn't a woman
Speaker 1: at all. Translations of hybrid glyphs on the sarcophagus revealed
Speaker 1: that this was actually the coffin of a high priest.
Speaker 1: His name was Hardt. So finally, after all this time,
Speaker 1: this hard working man finally got the recognition he deserved
Speaker 1: ever being completely misidentified for fifty years. All right, say
Speaker 1: it well in a new study got started. This time
Speaker 1: teams of archaeologists were studying mummies to learn about causes
Speaker 1: of death and like ancient diseases. So they looked all
Speaker 1: over the mummy of poor Jehuti and threw dozens of scans,
Speaker 1: kind of learned what they could, and when they figured
Speaker 1: out what they needed to know, they got ready to,
Speaker 1: you know, wrap things up and move on to the
Speaker 1: next mummy. Mummy jokes, they're so easy. But before they did,
Speaker 1: they're Archaeologist Marzina Ozarek decided to take another look at
Speaker 1: the mummies pelvic scans, and that's when she noticed quote
Speaker 1: a familiar image to a parent of three children, a
Speaker 1: tiny foot. Yes. On further investigation, they discovered that this
Speaker 1: tiny foot belonged to a tiny feet of and just
Speaker 1: to confirm, they ran some more tests and found out
Speaker 1: that this mummy was indeed a woman. But no, they
Speaker 1: were right the first time. Likely this woman was between
Speaker 1: twenty and thirty years old when she died, and after
Speaker 1: a scan revealed the shape of a fetus inside. They
Speaker 1: measured its head and determined it to be between twenty
Speaker 1: six and thirty weeks old. All this interesting dot Com
Speaker 1: says that while archaeologists have found many burials of pregnant
Speaker 1: women from ancient Egypt, this was the first time anyone
Speaker 1: had discovered a pregnant mummy. WHOA what a find. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it turns out they were right the first time. The
Speaker 1: mummy was a woman. After all, Miss Mummy is back.
Speaker 1: But how did that happen? I mean, the sarcophagus clearly
Speaker 1: stated that this was a male priest. Mr Horge Hootie Well.
Speaker 1: Dr Voichick Eisman, who's the co director of the Warsaw
Speaker 1: Mummy Project, says that it's a rare but complicated problem
Speaker 1: that sometimes comes up with it option archaeology. In the
Speaker 1: eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, tomb raiders would come in. They'd
Speaker 1: grab a bunch of starf cough guy, bust them open,
Speaker 1: you know, pull out the mummies lose all their jewels
Speaker 1: and treasures that they were buried with. Sometimes they had
Speaker 1: like unwrapped part of the mummy to get to a
Speaker 1: necklace or something that they want. Probably, yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: because they don't know why they had no respect for
Speaker 1: that stuff? Why not? So, yeah, they would just take
Speaker 1: all their ship and then just kind of toss them
Speaker 1: back into whichever sarcopa guy was nearest and throw them
Speaker 1: back in the tomb. So Dr Eisman estimates that about
Speaker 1: ten per cent of mummies are actually found in the
Speaker 1: wrong coffin. So miss Mummy got put into hard jehoities coffin.
Speaker 1: But what was going on on the inside? You know,
Speaker 1: they say it's not what's outside matters, it's what's inside
Speaker 1: that counts okay. So scans showed that there were mummified
Speaker 1: bundles in her chest cavity, which they understand to be
Speaker 1: her lungs, liver, stomach, intestines, and heart, which had been
Speaker 1: separately embalmed and reinserted before she was wrapped. This is
Speaker 1: standard mummification stuff. But why hadn't they embombed the fetus
Speaker 1: and why didn't it show up on any scans? Well,
Speaker 1: this created a big discussion, right Uh. Theories that Dr
Speaker 1: Eisman proposed included that maybe the Egyptians thought that the
Speaker 1: unborn child did not yet have a soul, or maybe
Speaker 1: they thought that removing it would be too damaging to
Speaker 1: the mummification process. Researchers suggested that ancient Egyptians may have
Speaker 1: seen the unborn baby as quote still an integral part
Speaker 1: of the body of its mother. So it's actually still
Speaker 1: you know, it's like an organ that she has until
Speaker 1: it's born. All that's interesting. Dot Com points out that
Speaker 1: names are very important to ancient Egyptians, and if the
Speaker 1: baby had not had a name yet, they might have
Speaker 1: thought that it couldn't get into the afterlife except as
Speaker 1: still part of its mother, and just like, let's just
Speaker 1: leave it there intact, just and not touch it. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: Smithsonian Magazine said in January of this year that the
Speaker 1: fetus was so well preserved due to a very similar
Speaker 1: process that happens in European bog Bodies Body Recryptulous episode.
Speaker 1: We learned in that episode that bodies that were thrown
Speaker 1: into these uh Peat bogs in Ireland and England, Scotland
Speaker 1: all over there would would get preserved better than better
Speaker 1: than mummies, sometimes for hundreds of years, thousands of years.
Speaker 1: But it was like extremely specific and distance. It had
Speaker 1: to be certain temperatures, certain wetness, certain um. So in
Speaker 1: this case, the corpses blood pH levels dropped over time,
Speaker 1: and that created a very acidic environment for the fetus,
Speaker 1: which would have dissolved is bones. But the salting process
Speaker 1: they use in mummification to dry out the corps and
Speaker 1: preserve its bones actually would have shrunk the uterus, forming
Speaker 1: a hermetic seal around the fetus and preserving its soft tissues. Interesting.
Speaker 1: So that's why when they were scanning the mummy for
Speaker 1: bones with X rays, they didn't see the fetus. It
Speaker 1: didn't have bones. So now they know how to look
Speaker 1: for pregnant mummies in the future. They're looking for a
Speaker 1: bad body in there. That's so interesting, they said. They
Speaker 1: likened it to when you soak an egg in vinegar
Speaker 1: and the hard shell around it dissolves, but the soft
Speaker 1: stuff remains intact. Yeah, they said, it's basically like that.
Speaker 1: So when they did like a three D scan, they
Speaker 1: could see the shape of the fetus even though the
Speaker 1: X rays didn't show anything there. Yeah, So there you
Speaker 1: have it. First pregnant mummy finally recorded, identified, confirmed. Pretty cool.
Speaker 1: That wraps up the mystery of this mummy mummy. So
Speaker 1: don't forget if you liked this episode to wait a minute,
Speaker 1: what this justin. In July of two, just a few
Speaker 1: months ago, mummy expert and radiology professor at the University
Speaker 1: of Cairo, Sahar Salim said that miss mummies pregnancy was
Speaker 1: quote a bunch of bullship. Okay, she didn't say that,
Speaker 1: but she said it was false. I wish he was
Speaker 1: a bunch of bulls. She said that this alleged baby
Speaker 1: bump was actually just three bundles placed into the woman's pelvis,
Speaker 1: either other mummified organs or maybe even just basically stuffing
Speaker 1: to help the body keep its shape, which was not uncommon.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons the organs are removed separately mummified
Speaker 1: and then replaced is because if organs are left in
Speaker 1: the body intact, they actually speed up decomposition, which undoes
Speaker 1: the entire point of mummification. And these guys knew what
Speaker 1: they were doing, Sure did they? Sure did. I guess
Speaker 1: they had a lot of time to experiment. They were
Speaker 1: around for like thousands of thousands of years, right, and
Speaker 1: a lot of dead people experiment on constantly. Die. One
Speaker 1: of the most interesting things I ever. I think it
Speaker 1: was two tank common, but it might have been a
Speaker 1: different mummy. But they were like, oh, they've kind of
Speaker 1: figured out that this mummy had died because of problems
Speaker 1: with its teeth, like they had like so many bad
Speaker 1: teeth that it had led to infections. And I was like,
Speaker 1: man like, dental work is so important. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like it should be bubbled with your Anyway, that's a different,
Speaker 1: different thing. People died of all kinds of crazy. Shi
Speaker 1: Selim says that a pregnant uterus is quote very fertile
Speaker 1: material for bacteria, so a pregnant uterus inside a mummified
Speaker 1: body would actually lead the whole mummy to completely decompose.
Speaker 1: She said, they never would have left a fetus inside
Speaker 1: someone they were mommifying. And the hypothesis that embalming salts
Speaker 1: shrink wrap a fetus inside the womb is just wrong.
Speaker 1: So the bog body thing not true. I should say,
Speaker 1: not that the bog bodies is false. The bog body
Speaker 1: thing is true, but the idea that the mummy's body
Speaker 1: acted as a bog was totally inaccurate. Now, Hya Karima
Speaker 1: points out on Egypt Today dot com that while the
Speaker 1: Polish studies said it had measured the fetus's head determines
Speaker 1: its age. Remember the head, the bones aren't fused, and
Speaker 1: the head itself could not exist without bones, because there's
Speaker 1: no way the fetle head would have maintained its spherical
Speaker 1: shape if the bones had dissolved. So if you x
Speaker 1: rate it and didn't see bones, and then scanned it
Speaker 1: and saw the shape of a fetle head, that's not
Speaker 1: what you're seeing. There's no way it could have been. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that feels obvious now you say it. Said it. Plus
Speaker 1: Egyptologists alba Atia said that pH changes in the blood
Speaker 1: after death would never be strong enough to dissolve the
Speaker 1: bones of a fetus anyway. So all in all, none
Speaker 1: of this would have been possible. Oh man, science, you
Speaker 1: guys do be wild. And now now, on the advice
Speaker 1: of Sahara Salim, the Polish research team, they did reevaluate.
Speaker 1: They came back and said, LIPSI a me dam. They
Speaker 1: got a bunch of researchers together just to be sure,
Speaker 1: and they found out, yes, indeed, it was just a
Speaker 1: few bundles of linen inside the mummies pelvis, no fetus whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Co founder of the Warsaw Mummy Project, Camilla Brolinska, said
Speaker 1: that the researchers quote failed to consult a radiology expert
Speaker 1: prior to publication. It's so weird to me to be
Speaker 1: in Poland with an Egyptian mummy and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, who knows about this Egypt? But I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna ask them what do they have to offer. I
Speaker 1: would immediately be like, yo, Egypt, tell me about this.
Speaker 1: Would y'all not rap? Would y'all not embalm a fetus?
Speaker 1: Or what would you do with it? Like surely there's
Speaker 1: some good history. Yeah, there were some questions left unasked. Now.
Speaker 1: The scan itself did look remarkably like the shape of
Speaker 1: a boneless fetus, which these researchers say was caused by
Speaker 1: a phenomenon called paradolia, which is the natural human tendency
Speaker 1: to see familiar objects in random occurrences. I think that's
Speaker 1: the thing where we see faces in stuff where there's
Speaker 1: no face, like a tree bark, you'd see some face
Speaker 1: or the moon or you you you know that one
Speaker 1: time I saw Tilda's win in on my toast. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just what a day for you as a good day. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Bralynskis said quote this phenomenon, combined with the lack of
Speaker 1: consultation of theories with a radiology expert only brought the
Speaker 1: effect of a global sensation and not a reliable scientific study. Right,
Speaker 1: So there you have it. We now we know the
Speaker 1: truth of this mummy until next year when this mummy
Speaker 1: crawls up out of its sarcophagus and gives birth to
Speaker 1: a cursed mummy baby right there in the Polish Museum's floor.
Speaker 1: Mummy Part four. We're gonna have to assume that this
Speaker 1: one is false. The body was a woman, not a
Speaker 1: male priest. She was in the wrong coffin, but her
Speaker 1: baby was not any more real than Robin Folsoms. So
Speaker 1: to fake baby stories in this episode, totally fake baby
Speaker 1: is although the mummy I guess, didn't really get any
Speaker 1: perks out of it. No, she she she deserves fourteen
Speaker 1: thousand years in back pay of unemployment, of of of
Speaker 1: maternity leave, but the baby's bake. Well yeah, then she'll
Speaker 1: have to pay it back, okay, right right, She's like,
Speaker 1: y'all already took all my treasures, pay my rest intitution. Maybe, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe that's her cosmic karma. Maybe she did take a
Speaker 1: baby and got ancient Egyptian maternity leave for it and
Speaker 1: then die and then's almost like I'm taking these jewels back.
Speaker 1: You don't deserve these. Some tomb raater was like, surely
Speaker 1: this lady is lying. I think that's so crazy that,
Speaker 1: I mean, the the story that's this mummy has gone
Speaker 1: through and no one knows who she was, you know,
Speaker 1: some some importance. If she was mummified, you don't give anyone,
Speaker 1: just anyone a right but but no talent. She could
Speaker 1: have been anybody, you know, but she wasn't pregnant. We're
Speaker 1: pretty sure that, and I think it's interesting too. They
Speaker 1: basically went on to say, um. Professor Selim was like,
Speaker 1: we you will not find a pregnant mummy because if,
Speaker 1: like she said, if you left a fetus inside someone
Speaker 1: and mummified them, the mummy would dissolve, it would decompose.
Speaker 1: W Yeah, because if you leave any organs, you know,
Speaker 1: just in there to rot, you undo the whole momification process.
Speaker 1: That's why they took out each organ and embalmed it
Speaker 1: separately and then put it back in. Right. I was
Speaker 1: going to say, when we were talking about that, it
Speaker 1: was like, it feels like a pretty natural progression to say, well,
Speaker 1: then you take the uterus out whatever is in it.
Speaker 1: Who cares that the organ goes um so it does
Speaker 1: seem weird too. Well, again, they should have freaking asked
Speaker 1: some Egyptians. I guess they should have. They should have
Speaker 1: they should have asked me. I would have said that
Speaker 1: sounds cool. Um. I would have said, did you ask
Speaker 1: any Egyptians have gone to a radiologist? This is interest.
Speaker 1: This woman, uh Sahara Salim is an Egyptologist, a mummy expert,
Speaker 1: and she like invented a type of m r I
Speaker 1: that scans fetle tissue. So she's like the perfect person
Speaker 1: to comment this. Like they should have gotten heard involved
Speaker 1: from day one. You should have picked up the phone
Speaker 1: and warsaw Man I speak to Dr Selene Piece. I
Speaker 1: have a very quick question for her that she could
Speaker 1: immediately answer for me. I think they're in the same
Speaker 1: time zone. It wouldn't even been hard. So somebody y'all
Speaker 1: have the same lunch hour. I would love to hear
Speaker 1: from you all in this episode. Tell us your crazy
Speaker 1: baby stories. We'd love to hear them. What's the wildest
Speaker 1: thing you've accused your coworker up. That's what I want
Speaker 1: to know, because seriously, I need to understand the day
Speaker 1: that Robbin's coworker was like, I can't take it anymore.
Speaker 1: This baby ain't real. I'm going to HR. That is
Speaker 1: a very awkward conversation to have to have. I feel
Speaker 1: like you would have to have bullet proof evidence before
Speaker 1: you you accuse someone of that. You would have to
Speaker 1: have dynamite evident receipts, you know, and to receive that too.
Speaker 1: As person be like, I'm sorry you think that, Robbin's what.
Speaker 1: It's no wonder it took them so long to get
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Speaker 1: to be one trillion percent before we even bring it up.
Speaker 1: They were like, I'm not even doing this. I'm going
Speaker 1: to the State Inspector General. We need to take this
Speaker 1: out of house. Yes, yeah, I ain't touching this one.
Speaker 1: I need to know though, what y'all if you've ever
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Speaker 1: us that. Tell us, uh, you know, if you've ever
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