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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. Now football is back from the.

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Speaker 2: Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around the NFL the Sunday

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Speaker 2: Flagship program, Week eighteen, the finale of the regular season.

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Speaker 1: It is now all in front of us.

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Speaker 2: Dan Hansas here with heroes Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 2: and yes, here we are. It is set Sunday night

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Speaker 2: football in the rear view. We're gonna get to that

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Speaker 2: game first. We're gonna mix things up, but here it is.

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Speaker 2: You ready, sesst Dog, Yes, here we go. Wild Card weekend,

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Speaker 2: excuse me? Super wild Card weekend. Packers at Cowboys on

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon, Rams at Lions on Sunday night, Eagles at

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay on Monday night. On Saturday, Greg Mark Cleveland,

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Speaker 2: Browns at Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 3: West of Visus back week case, Keenum involved again.

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Speaker 4: We got an exclusive Peacock game for the cock fans

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Speaker 4: out there. Dolphins at Chief Saturday fifteen pm. And then

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Speaker 4: Steelers at the number two seed who would have thunk?

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Speaker 4: At Buffalo Bill's Sunday one pm Eastern. With the Ravens

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Speaker 4: and Niners both on bye, It's set. That is the

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Speaker 4: road to Super Bowl fifty.

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Speaker 3: Eight.

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Speaker 1: See maybe Okay.

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Speaker 3: I always struggle with numbers. Football is back. It always

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Speaker 3: it's a little bittersweet always this week team it feels good.

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Speaker 3: It feels good to do it for the last time,

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Speaker 3: but also feels a little sad when you're seeing Scott

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Speaker 3: Hansen say goodbye for the season. And my son I

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Speaker 3: remember this feeling as a kid. He was kind of

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Speaker 3: bummed out this morning that I was like, oh, this

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Speaker 3: is the last one. It's ending, but the playoffs are had.

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Speaker 5: It's I mean we were having that football as back

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Speaker 5: conversation that was four months ago.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that was two weeks ago at this point.

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Speaker 5: By uh, I mean at this at the same point

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Speaker 5: at the same time, like the end of the regular

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Speaker 5: season is also necessary because we have finished the narratives

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Speaker 5: with a bunch of these teams. I feel like this year,

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Speaker 5: though it happened later for a lot of them, which

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Speaker 1: It's been a great regular season.

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Speaker 5: And I don't remember like a wild card round with

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Speaker 5: so many and we were talking about it like just

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Speaker 5: like there's a and it could go a lot of

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Speaker 5: different ways. Yes, these games, it's not like you know,

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Speaker 5: there are.

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Speaker 2: No quote unquote floating trash bag games, right no ham

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Speaker 2: and eggers that are just gonna get picked off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it.

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Speaker 5: There are definitely some stronger than less, but like I

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Speaker 5: see some intriguing matchups.

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Speaker 1: It's there's a lot of unpredictable nature to.

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Speaker 5: Me and there I really mean it, though I don't

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Speaker 5: say that kind of stuff too much because of sometimes

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Speaker 5: I just I'm not buying into it.

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Speaker 1: I want to see what happens. But this is a

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Speaker 1: weird wildcard round.

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Speaker 3: Well wee K eighteen is satisfying the last weekend of

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Speaker 3: the rate. It's satisfying because there are these through lines, Like, yes,

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Speaker 3: some things have changed, some teams are falling apart injury wise,

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Speaker 3: but there are these through lines. And we saw it

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Speaker 3: in what I think that was a great way to

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Speaker 3: cap the season in this Bills game. This Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: roller coaster has been here from the very start of

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Speaker 3: the very first big primetime game of the year to

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Speaker 3: the very last.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and that is where we're going to start. It

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Speaker 1: is Super Bowl fifty eight. By the way, I mean

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Speaker 1: you knew we nailed it, Yeah you that was close.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Bills have been really kind of a great

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Speaker 2: symbol of this season. Unpredictable ups and downs. Just when

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Speaker 2: you believe in a team, they turn their back on you.

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Speaker 2: But then they come back around. And they had to

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Speaker 2: AFC East. The Dolphins, who had been in control all

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Speaker 2: year long. But in Miami, in front of thousands and

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Speaker 2: thousands of Bills fans, Buffalo put on a show. Miami's

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Speaker 2: three receivers to the left, Cedric Wilson to the right,

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Speaker 2: two in the shotgun with a chant two his right.

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Speaker 6: Back to pass as the Bills fans get into it,

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Speaker 7: To the left sideline and it's intercepted by Taylor Rap,

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Speaker 9: The pass was off the mark and Rap picked it

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Speaker 7: An unbelievable play.

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Speaker 2: Roberts, your team just won the division on Sunday Night football.

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Speaker 1: Where are the damn bongos. I'm having some integrity today.

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Speaker 3: I'm saving it, Okay, he just.

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Speaker 1: Trying not to be biased. It's okay to be biased.

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Speaker 1: This was a big time, a big spot. This would

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Speaker 1: have deserved them. I gave them the bongos a couple

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. Yeah, I think there was a more deserving.

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Speaker 2: Okay, choice get a punt return for a touchdown, stops

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Speaker 2: on defense, a touchdown scoring drive by the offense which

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Speaker 1: A float throw by Tua.

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Speaker 2: And there was a lot of those in this game,

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Speaker 2: and the Miami offense went ice cold when it mattered.

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Speaker 2: Most final score Bill's twenty one Dolphins fourteen. They both

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Speaker 2: finish eleven and six, but the Bills sweep the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: in the home and home, which means they win the tiebreaker,

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Speaker 2: which means it's the Buffalo Bills. As we said, that

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Speaker 2: are the number two seed. After all of this mark

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Speaker 2: the Bills find away and I thought it was as

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Speaker 2: we're watching after they fail on that fourth in less

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Speaker 2: a way to blow this game after they had it

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Speaker 2: as they have in recent weeks, and they're the division

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Speaker 1: They really are overcomers.

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Speaker 5: I mean, to go through what they went through in

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Speaker 5: because the injury list for Buffalo was starting to rack up.

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Speaker 5: Razuell Douglas went out, Gave Davis went out, Dean Dawkins

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Speaker 5: went out, and it's just like, can they survived this game?

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Speaker 1: And they've been doing it all year long.

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Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago, it would have seemed completely outlandish

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Speaker 5: But I think it's you know, if you're Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 5: which I think really misses jal and Waddle two weeks

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Speaker 5: in a row, missed them tonight. They were out of

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Speaker 1: That is tough to do. The no show.

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Speaker 5: It was a complete no show. It was a complete

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Speaker 5: are banged up too, but Buffalo. I thought the Josh

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Speaker 5: It was a truly special version of Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Him picking up that third and forever as a runner

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Speaker 3: on Miami, was Josh Allen him picking up all those

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Speaker 1: And I'm with you, Dan, I just.

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Speaker 3: Thought, like, it's worked like six times or five times,

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Speaker 3: is it gonna work one more?

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Speaker 1: It's okay to run the ball. One of the reasons

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Speaker 3: It just run the ball in a normal way. There

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Speaker 3: are different runs, and I think that's why they won

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Speaker 3: the game. First half, the Dolphins are able to run

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Speaker 3: the ball well on those two touchdown drives. They have

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Speaker 3: one hundred yards rushing at halftime. Second half, the Bills

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Speaker 3: like the Dolphins need to be a special offense. And

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Speaker 3: I know they were without Moster and they really miss Waddle.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, but too many times in these games

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Speaker 3: against good opponent it is a thing Dolphins fans. The

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Speaker 1: They're nowhere to be seen.

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Speaker 3: This Bill's defense has really played special considering all the

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Speaker 3: injuries down the stretch they earn this game. If Allen

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Speaker 3: that set him up. They outgained him by a couple

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Alan nearly got the Bills beat here with three

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Speaker 2: brutal turnovers.

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Speaker 1: You know, somewhere worse than others.

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Speaker 2: There was we were talking about Eric that interception of

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Speaker 2: then for the first half to end, for first half

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Speaker 2: short of the goal line with no timeouts Sean McDermott

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Speaker 2: and bad timing, but it's a contractual agreement between the

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Speaker 2: after a brutal failure in the red zone and he

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Speaker 1: And great great group tackle by Miami though too.

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Speaker 2: Great play by Miami's defense. And then in the third quarter,

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Speaker 2: Alan gets the ball ripped away once again in the

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Speaker 2: He can't let take anybody take the ball away from

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Speaker 2: this game. It's really a pretty wild game. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna make it our game of the

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Speaker 2: Week on NFL Plus because it had so much twist

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Speaker 2: and turns. In the fourth quarter, we're down, we're looking

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Speaker 2: When Deontay Hardy takes that punt ninety six yards to

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Speaker 2: that building feeling like it's just another frustrating day for

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Speaker 2: this team to okay, we got things even. And what

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Speaker 5: It's just stuff that wasn't happening to Miami on these

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Speaker 3: And you're right Mark that, like they don't look like

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Speaker 2: They should accomplish not quite. Now the Dolphins they are

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Speaker 2: So if the Miami Dallons would have found a way here,

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Speaker 10: I've been following along the in season hard knocks, falling

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you deserve that now, Dolphins fans waiting for

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Speaker 1: I'm not, no, you don't, I mean you can't there.

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Speaker 3: I think that was the same week the Jaguars were

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Speaker 10: Foot figure was on the panic button at several times

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Speaker 2: And rightfully so this team has teetered multiple times, but

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Speaker 1: Nice timing for a five game winning streak. All right,

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Speaker 5: Boat teams are like the one thing about Miami going

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Speaker 3: I think you have Ogba's there making a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: What Nick really did come for your manhood a little

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Speaker 1: I'm going to send this to Nick in real time.

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Speaker 1: We'll get a response for him. Well, we'll also on

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Speaker 3: But the moment Nick called me a coward on the show,

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Speaker 1: Dolphin, that made me feel good about the bills. Get up,

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Speaker 1: Mark looks like he's going on a kid. No, it's uh,

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Speaker 5: Nothing is more enjoyable for Dan and I than to

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Speaker 1: That's for eighteen weeks.

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Speaker 3: Back to back years, four out of five years, and

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Speaker 3: league sources have indicated that I'm strongly considering retirement, retiring

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Speaker 3: League sources have been reporting that they that, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a very likable person. That's That's what I've

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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep moving here and uh and I'll

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Speaker 1: Everything on the line. As big a play as you'll

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Speaker 7: Take up play, the Touxhaits take over on Towns put

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Speaker 1: I stand by it. I'm with you, Eric, this is

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Speaker 2: Stroud throws for two hundred and sixty four yards and

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and CJ. Stroud. I love that the game

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Speaker 2: First throw is right in the first primetime game in

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've seen like quarterbacks that almost hit like

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Speaker 11: Like c J.

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Speaker 5: It just wouldn't be that surprising in the AFC. A

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Speaker 1: They're totally enjoyable to watch.

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Speaker 5: Dimigo Ryans is someone that has changed the Texans organization

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Speaker 3: This game was why Stroud is just an outrageous talent,

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Speaker 1: The first half, he didn't have one negative play. Everything

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Speaker 3: In the first half of this game, they did not

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Speaker 3: he's getting absolutely hammered under pressure, and Collins makes a

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Speaker 2: just don't see it. But I think you put a

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Speaker 2: guy like Stroud on this team. In the way he's playing,

441
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Speaker 2: he has totally changed everything for this organization. And you know,

442
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: we're just saying, like Tua and you know, having Jalen

443
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: Wattle out of that game and that was a bad break. Well,

444
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 2: Tank Dell was was Stroud's guy this season and you

445
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 2: took him out and then you get him Stroud gets

446
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 2: injured with the concussion and he's gone.

447
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Speaker 1: For a couple know, Brown out take Robert Woods out.

448
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Speaker 2: And they still find a way because he had. He's

449
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Speaker 2: that special dude, and I think we we kind of

450
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Speaker 2: So I agree with you, Mark, with you take out

451
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Speaker 2: the Ravens, okay, because the Ravens are cut above in

452
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Speaker 2: the AFC right now and then, and with all due

453
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Speaker 2: respect to the Steelers, are going to take them out

454
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Speaker 2: any of the other teams in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Here are the five teams in the AFC.

456
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Speaker 2: None of them would surprise me like beating up and

457
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: going on a multiple game run in the playoffs. And

458
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Speaker 2: I think the Texans are absolutely capable of that. And

459
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: Stroud is a big reason why, any reason why.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna matter what version of Will Anderson you get,

461
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 5: you know, starting eye ankle next week, right, Like that's that.

462
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Speaker 5: So when I say to Nico Ryans, like I think

463
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Speaker 5: their defense has completely changed and a lot of young

464
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Speaker 5: players have developed and grown. Yes, So it's like there

465
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Speaker 5: is a coaching element, like Bobby Slowick really matters on

466
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Speaker 5: offense and what he's done with various offensive line injuries.

467
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Speaker 5: And you see someone like Nico Collins nine targets, nine catches,

468
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 5: one hundred and ninety five yards and a touchdown, and

469
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Speaker 5: it's like, yes, it was the seventy five yarder, but

470
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Speaker 5: it's sort of the overall thing where it's like CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 5: like any good quarterback is gonna turn players around him

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Speaker 5: into productive stars in like stars in the making.

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Speaker 3: Nico Collins is gonna get twenty five million dollars a

474
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Speaker 3: year this offseason if the Texans are smart. He's not

475
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Speaker 3: a free agent yet, but he I haven't seen many

476
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Speaker 3: players quite like and he's built like he looks like

477
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 3: AJ Green when you just look at him. But he runs.

478
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: He plays like a tight end. He runs over people.

479
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: He makes a lot of he has great hands, difficult catches.

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Speaker 3: So they have a one, they have a two in Dell.

481
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Speaker 3: It was exciting. And yet despite all that, they're really

482
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Speaker 3: banged up. They need to get Jonathan Grenard back. They

483
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Speaker 3: need to get those receivers back, and late in this game,

484
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Speaker 3: the Colts are driving and I'm thinking, oh man, the

485
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Speaker 3: Colts are definitely gonna be in that early west of

486
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Speaker 3: his spot when they're only what fifteen yards away?

487
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Speaker 1: When they call that fourth and one.

488
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Speaker 2: Fourth and one Houston fifteen yard line, one oh six

489
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Speaker 2: to go, they call a pass play on a day

490
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Speaker 2: when Jonathan Taylor is running wild, but they say minshew,

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Speaker 2: get the ball to reserve running back Tyler Goodson, who

492
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Speaker 2: I believe had six catches all year, and the the

493
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Speaker 2: ball is not perfectly placed, but Goodson can't hang on

494
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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 1: Do we have I don't want to do you have

496
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Speaker 1: the Colts call? Let's hear what the Colts call was?

497
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Speaker 1: Colts down by six mins.

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Speaker 9: She's gonna throws drop ball, left, drop the ball.

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Speaker 1: He had a first to the ball in the far flat.

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Speaker 1: He could not bring in the catch. And it was

501
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Speaker 1: well schemed.

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Speaker 12: They had it.

503
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Speaker 3: They knew they were gonna have Manda man coverage.

504
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Speaker 1: He ran the swing pass out there. The linebacker couldn't

505
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Speaker 1: get there. He was trying to run around the pick.

506
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, heartbreaking. Feels so bad for the guy,

507
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: and you never want to be And woke up this morning.

508
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: I feel like I always see this every year cross sports,

509
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: the ESPN headline stack, and it's like player X drop

510
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: won't define me, or miss foul shot won't define me,

511
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Speaker 2: and define me And here is Goodson after the game,

512
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Speaker 2: who's you know?

513
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Speaker 1: Stand up dude? And on the roughest day of his career,

514
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Speaker 1: I worked too.

515
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Speaker 3: Hard, So you know, just drop the ball like that.

516
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Speaker 3: I got to accept that change, and that's okay.

517
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Speaker 13: It still touch my hands.

518
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Speaker 10: It's all good.

519
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Speaker 1: It's all good, touch my hands. But next year I

520
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: won't be in that position ever again.

521
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Speaker 8: Ever.

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Speaker 1: Get that feels so bad for me.

523
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Speaker 2: Hopefully he does have a moment on the line and

524
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Speaker 2: this he could look back on this, because that that's

525
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Speaker 2: a tough way for a season to end and for

526
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Speaker 2: for good.

527
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Speaker 1: So that's terrible.

528
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's I think it creates one

529
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Speaker 5: of these conversations that you you get in big games

530
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Speaker 5: like this where it comes down to like a short

531
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Speaker 5: yardage final option here, and you've had Jonathan Taylor run

532
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Speaker 5: for six point three yards on the day, one hundred

533
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Speaker 5: and eighty eight ground yards and a touchdown, and it's like,

534
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Speaker 5: wait a minute, we didn't give it to jump. We

535
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Speaker 5: didn't just give it to your best player or make

536
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Speaker 5: sure it goes to the to the person who's been

537
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Speaker 5: dominating all day.

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Speaker 2: Long, and you've had a bad day. He wasn't throwing

539
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Speaker 2: the ball while he threw for one hundred and forty

540
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Speaker 2: one yards, and if he who knows throw, they could

541
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Speaker 2: have dropped it right in his hands. But it wasn't

542
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Speaker 2: a great pass from Minshew either, so you kind of

543
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Speaker 2: you chose with to use your backup quarterback and a

544
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Speaker 2: backup running back over your star running back who had

545
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Speaker 2: been having a big day. Those are all second thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you could also say, well, the play was

547
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Speaker 2: schemed up and it was perfect.

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Speaker 3: Right, they're they're professionals.

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Speaker 1: You got to hit that play.

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Speaker 3: As a coach, I think it was a fascinating sequence

551
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Speaker 3: because they did give it to Jonathan Taylor. I mean

552
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Speaker 3: they gave it to him on that drive the six

553
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: seven previous plays. Yeah, they gave it to him on

554
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: third and two he got one yard. I actually thought

555
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: watching Taylor there, who would come in and he had

556
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 3: been ruled doubtful with the heel injury, even though he

557
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: was getting yards, I was like, oh, they should bring

558
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 3: in Zach Moss.

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Speaker 1: It would take a lot of hood spot.

560
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Speaker 3: But I thought he was running it not as explosive,

561
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 3: kind of careful on his feet on that six yard

562
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: game right before the last play, like he had a

563
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 3: ton of room. And I thought earlier in the game

564
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: Taylor hits that and would have picked up a first down.

565
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: And it was fascinting because I think Steichen might be

566
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Speaker 3: up there with the best coaches in the league in

567
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: terms of game management, in terms of play calling, and

568
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: he played that final sequence very interesting. He decided, like,

569
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Speaker 3: we're gonna try to end the game here. We're not

570
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: gonna even though we have three timeouts, We're not gonna

571
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Speaker 3: play it both ways, which is how most coaches would

572
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Speaker 3: do it, which is maybe score a little faster, but

573
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: if it doesn't work, we get the ball back. And

574
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: he decided to kind of burn his time out too

575
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 3: before that play because he wanted to see what the

576
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: Texans played their defense and knew what play was going

577
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: to get called the perfect place, so I.

578
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: Can't kill him.

579
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Speaker 3: But then after using the time out, you basically have

580
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: lost the game because you put it all on that

581
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: one and they made me wouldn't have won the game either,

582
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 3: like he would have been at like the seven yard

583
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: line and they had four plays to try to score

584
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 3: a touchdown.

585
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Speaker 1: Oh brutal.

586
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: But to the Texans credit, they get off the mat

587
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: even with all the injuries, and they find a way

588
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: to close out win the division when they get some

589
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: help the next day. And here is a locker room

590
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: that is a happy one with Dimiko Ryans at the front.

591
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: Love you guys.

592
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: Man, sir too.

593
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 14: Man, you're proud of the determination. Man, you talk about determination,

594
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 14: you're grit. Everybody fight to their last play. Yeah, that's

595
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 14: what it's about. Man, And we plused our ticket.

596
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: Very nice.

597
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mean to mean Tomiico Ryans. I just

598
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: it's more about like the transformational, truly gifted young quarter.

599
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: It wouldn't look the same about Stroud. I mean obviously,

600
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: but he was like fire. That's football. It's like Montana Belichick, Braid.

601
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: I just you got to give everyone.

602
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 5: And it's not because the team is functioning in so

603
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 5: many better ways all over the place. And like I

604
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 5: just it's it's easy to forget where the Texans were

605
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 5: like a year or two ago.

606
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: I mean, it was like darkness, or even seven weeks ago.

607
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Speaker 3: I'll loan up to it. You probably should have probably

608
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: should have picked.

609
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: Them as a team of a deal, you know, but

610
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: well they were discussed, it happened.

611
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: They were the two teams that came down to we

612
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: caught Park was pushing for Texans.

613
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: To his credit, we got we caught Dobbs fever. I

614
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: mean because I was part of the Dobbs, no regrets,

615
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: just saying it's fun. But they're a fun team. But

616
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: Greg sometimes, why what enough? What do you much? How

617
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: much do you want?

618
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Speaker 14: Greg?

619
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Speaker 1: What do you want? You want to slice? What do

620
00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: you want me to say?

621
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

622
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: What do you want me to say? This isn't about me.

623
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm giving Mark some credit here. What do you want me?

624
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: We gave him a lot of trouble and I was

625
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: going for the Vikings and he wanted the Texans. He

626
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: was right.

627
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I wanted Josh Dobbs to thrive. We

628
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: I think Sobbs was and I signed off. Why do

629
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: I think it litigated that way?

630
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 11: We we?

631
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Speaker 1: It didn't work out. It was it was just the

632
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: way it was.

633
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: But the Texans would have been nice. All of a sudden,

634
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: we're acting like the Texans are a flawless organization.

635
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 5: I have that orgization since the Texans did a very

636
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 5: team of a high high high end team of atl

637
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 5: type thing.

638
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: I'm trying to give myself us the business the same

639
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: way we gave him the business or the Vikings back

640
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: in the day.

641
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Speaker 2: It's it's it's all fun, very fun. You're right right

642
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: as always, You're right Let's move on, uh to the

643
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: next big game. Steelers and Ravens. Oh boy, Steelers have

644
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: a chance to punch their ticket too.

645
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: Third and four were Steelers from there. Twenty nine shot

646
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: gun snap and it is Mason Rudolph.

647
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: Tamon middle on his way.

648
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 13: Oh take Junson thirty twenty five fifteen ten, He's gone

649
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 13: for that Steelers touchdown seventy one yards Rudolph dub.

650
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: Judson sweeter that Nellie's blueberry pie. Yes, I tell you again,

651
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: it's every week, Nelly Bill. He'll grow up at the call.

652
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph through a seventy one yard touchdown passed the

653
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson on.

654
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: The first play of the fourth quarter.

655
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: Steelers grinded out seventeen to ten over the top seeded Ravens,

656
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: who of course rested multiple key players, including MVP favorite

657
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. That Steelers win, combined with the Jags loss

658
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: on Sunday clinch he had another playoff appearance for Mike Tomlin,

659
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: whose team won three straight to close the regular season.

660
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: My fearless prediction there was that they would not win again,

661
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Speaker 2: but they went the other so credit to Pittsburgh and

662
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: never doubt Greg.

663
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin.

664
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: It's a massive fu from Tomlin to everyone who doubted

665
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: his team and his place in the organization after all

666
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: these years of consistent success.

667
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: They're just a ridiculous team. They are the I think

668
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: only the fifth team in NFL history to have a

669
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: negative twenty point differential and win ten games.

670
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: Now got they got an extra game.

671
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: To do it, but it's still like the Statistically, they're

672
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: one of the worst ten game wins teams.

673
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: Ever, so when we're looking at these playoffs, like they

674
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: do look like.

675
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: The team that stands out, although in this season, you're right,

676
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: nothing would surprise me. The weather was a massive factor

677
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: in this game. I've seen some analysis being like all

678
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: the offenses and it's like the weather was as bad

679
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: of a weather game as there has been all season.

680
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: And to naj Harris's credit and their offenses credit, like

681
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: it was a Naj Harris game, it was not a

682
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren game. I don't think they would have won

683
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: this game without Nase Harris. He was like the definition

684
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: of a mutter and he was awesome and he kind

685
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: of took him yep, a couple of weeks in a row.

686
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 5: He's been everything that you would have hoped he was

687
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 5: when he was taken in the first round. And you know,

688
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: if you found out before the game that you know

689
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 5: Mason Rudolph was gonna throw for one hundred and fifty

690
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 5: two yards fumble the ball three times, you'd think this is,

691
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 5: this is a problem. Accept that the Ravens don't have

692
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 5: Olamar Jackson. They're nose flowers. They're missing a bunch of guys.

693
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 5: But I mean, the biggest thing hanging over this Steelers

694
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 5: team right now is that at the end of an

695
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 5: excellent two set game, TJ. Watt suffers it to a

696
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 5: Grade two mcl sprain and according to jj Watt, it

697
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 5: could be a couple of weeks of rest recovery. So

698
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 5: it's like, you take jj Watt off this defense, it's

699
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 5: like JJ Watt's one of these defensive guys that j TJ.

700
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 5: Watt like wins games for you, and it's like they're

701
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: just not the same operation without him. So that that like,

702
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 5: that is that is like watching him walk to the

703
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 5: locker room was like, ah, this is awful for Steelers fans.

704
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: There was eight fumbles in this game. I mean, it

705
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: looks this was an awful The Steelers picked up six

706
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: of them, so like sometimes the game comes down to that.

707
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: They did dominate yardage for the most part, like Tyler

708
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: Huntley could not get it going. There was more starters

709
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: in this Ravens game than I think people realize. Like

710
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: the offensive lines and the defensive lines for the Ravens

711
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 3: basically were in the whole game. There were starters throughout

712
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: the defense for Baltimore.

713
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: But Rudolph's been good.

714
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: Like even on that touchdown, he had a shorter route,

715
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: he could have thrown it too, and he always pushes

716
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: it a little further. He goes further to Johnson gets

717
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: rewarded with a big touchdown. He only had two incompletions

718
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: eighteen for twenty for one fifty two. Like they've been

719
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: pretty solid with Steelers, and there's this report that you know,

720
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: Pickett is still their franchise quarterback from our guy in rapport,

721
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, what, they're literally going into a playoff game

722
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: and he's not starting.

723
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: That's he's not your card exactly.

724
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 5: Well, it's like just don't stir anything up right now,

725
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 5: just say yes, fine, everything's fine, But like come on.

726
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: Well, yeah they're in an interesting spot, yeah looking forward,

727
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: but it is really uh it's it's it's pretty crazy

728
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: that they did go on this run with Mason r

729
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: Off on top of everything else. So it's they're they're

730
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: not the team. They're not the sexy team here obviously

731
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: in the AFC. And I just said earlier that, you know,

732
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: I kind of take them out of the mix of

733
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: the teams that I think can win multiple games.

734
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: But geez, I'm not going to doubt Tomlin. I'm not

735
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: going to do the Steelers.

736
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: You know, maybe they'll knuck another one up and find

737
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: a way uh next week, because they you know, they're

738
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: starting to believe in it.

739
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: But the t J.

740
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: Watt injury is is massive. I think that is what

741
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: takes the most win out of the sales here one

742
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent.

743
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's unfortunate, but it is an incredible division,

744
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: in this division which ended up having so many winning teams.

745
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: Everyone's a winning team, and the Steelers won five and

746
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: one in it. I know there's some weirdness to it

747
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: them playing backups including Huntley and Browning and in the proud,

748
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: but they still went five and one in the best division.

749
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: It's good and the Ravens that they get out healthy here.

750
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 3: Trying to think uh. I think they pretty much did

751
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: get out healthy.

752
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess one of the benefits of sitting

753
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 5: your key stars on offenses they can't get hurt.

754
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: So they will of course have the buy and then

755
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: they will face the lotus lowest seeded remaining team in

756
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 2: the divisional playoffs.

757
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep on moving.

758
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: Oh let's head to Tennessee where the Titans team that's

759
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: had a rough year had a chance to do something.

760
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: Run arrivals year. That's always a good thing. Let's see

761
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: if they did it.

762
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: Riffed out in two.

763
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: I think they did.

764
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 15: I just Lawrence in the show.

765
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: I want to spoil it looking firing in hell. Yeah,

766
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: pass was.

767
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 15: Intended for Evan Ingram Edmunds had good coverage and the

768
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 15: Titans take over on downs at the thirty two, only

769
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 15: needing to kneel to win this game.

770
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: Mike Keith, I'm really happy I get that.

771
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: Wonder if Mike Keith's one of those guys where it's

772
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: always his full name, he only gets addressed by full

773
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: name Mike Keith. With the call with Dave McGinnis the Jaguars,

774
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 2: they just couldn't get it done. With the season hanging

775
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: in the bounce, Trevor Lawrence sailed that pass incomplete and

776
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: the last place Titans escape of the twenty eight to

777
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: twenty win in Nashville. And the Jags started that season

778
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: this season eight and three, but end the year with

779
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: five losses in six weeks and they missed the playoffs

780
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: and give the AFC South to the Texans. Mister Sessler,

781
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: Mark Sessler, what a frustrating afternoon and season.

782
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: For Lawrence and the whole Jags organization. The implosion is complete.

783
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 5: I mean we've been sensing it and feeling it, and

784
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 5: yet they still had a chance at the very end

785
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 5: of this game to tie it up against the Titans

786
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 5: team that was playing like with a tarow set on fire,

787
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 5: and you have that poor past Evan Ingram just off target.

788
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 5: It kind of looked reminded me of like the frustrating

789
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 5: moments from Trevor Lawrence in the past, but this game

790
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 5: had plenty of those, because earlier on that same drive,

791
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley is wide open and Trevor Trevor Lawrence just

792
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: basically overthrows him.

793
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: It's just he's off. It's like he could have that

794
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: would have been a touchdown. He could have sealed it

795
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: right there.

796
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 5: You There was a ricocheted interception early in the game,

797
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 5: which wasn't totally on Trevor Lawrence at all, but he

798
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 5: threw a bad interception of Sean Murvy button bunting on

799
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: what was a clear communication.

800
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: There was a downs that they went out on downs

801
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: early on a where he.

802
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 5: Throws short of the sticks on fourth and six, And

803
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 5: there was a goal line stand where Trevor Lawrence is

804
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 5: stopped at fourth and goal, you know, inside the one

805
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 5: on a QB sneak and he stuffed and and the

806
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 5: one thing about that play is that Trevor Lawrence switched

807
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 5: into that play and he took it. He took total

808
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 5: accountability for it. But he said, if I'm gonna do that,

809
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 5: I've got to nail it. And it was just like

810
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 5: this team had no margin for error without Christian Kirk.

811
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 5: I really feel like they never were the same with

812
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 5: Christian Kirk. And I never would think I'd say that

813
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 5: about that player, but it's like it's something happened to

814
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: this passing game. Trevor Lawrence obviously has not been healthy

815
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: over the past month. He didn't look particularly hurt to

816
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 5: me at all in this game, but something It's almost

817
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 5: like something's going on because we got the version of

818
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence from early last season, and we know that

819
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 5: he quietly has just been a massive turnover robot behind

820
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: a lot of the because I think now it's just

821
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 5: say he's such a great quarterback, we just expect him

822
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 5: to be a star and maybe even like a top

823
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 5: five guy. He's not played that way of late. And

824
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 5: today was the Epican total meltdown. And it doesn't happen

825
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 5: if their defense does not allow Derrick Henry for rumbled

826
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty three yards off nineteen carries. He

827
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: had a sixty nine yard run at one point. They

828
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 5: just broke this Jaguars defense. So it was a complete

829
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 5: and total team implosion that we've seen coming for a while.

830
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: The Titans were up for this. Derrick Henry his last game,

831
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 3: likely as a tight end. He spoke on the Jumbo

832
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: Chawn after the game like thanking listen everyone.

833
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting and fun for UH, one

834
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: of the one of the great players in franchise history.

835
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: Hi, man, I just want to say thank you.

836
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 13: What the greatest eight years.

837
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: Of my life.

838
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 13: The ups and the downs, y'all been up and everything

839
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 13: at Versity Washington, Garth and person and the player always

840
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 13: supported me.

841
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: I love y'all.

842
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: I love seeing his pictures in the stadium. Hopefully ill

843
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: was an information.

844
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 13: To all the young kids and everybody in the community

845
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 13: who is thank oh so much.

846
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: Man, God is good and tighten o. What a class act.

847
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: And the only reason I know he's gone beyond that

848
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: speech was after the game during the press conference he

849
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 2: thanked his avocado guy in Inville.

850
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: So that's when you know it's over. You're you're leaving

851
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: the neighborhood.

852
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 12: Yeah.

853
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: There was a great shot of him in Tannehill kind

854
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: of having a quiet moment before going out for the

855
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: game and him Henry was kind of emotional talking.

856
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: About what a career in Tennessee. If that's it right,

857
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: saying that's my dude.

858
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: And it was fitting for him to run all over

859
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: the the Jaguars nineteen for one to fifty three because

860
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: he's been doing that his whole career. Fifteen hundred and

861
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: sixty four yards against the Jaguars in fifteen games, which

862
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: seems outrageous. He average over one hundred rushing yards in

863
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: fifteen games. But then someone put the stat out Derek

864
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 3: Henry's actually averaged over one hundred and eight yards from

865
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: scrimmage against all AFC South teams, Like he has like

866
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: dominated that division in a pretty special way for eight years,

867
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: and the Jaguars just weren't ready for it. Like this

868
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: division should have been there for the taking. There was

869
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: a lot of reasons why, but ultimately Lawrence wasn't good

870
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: enough in the end. That last drive was was tough

871
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: to watch, like miss misthrow after miss throw, And maybe

872
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: he doesn't trust in his teammates to get a yard

873
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: in that situation, so he calls his own number, And

874
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: I don't blame him. They couldn't get a yard all

875
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: season in those spots, So like it's more than just

876
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: Trevor Leewan.

877
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm also gonna I'm not gonna bury Tua

878
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: for the way he played in this game and then

879
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: let Lawrence off the hook because he did he did

880
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: make some you know, boneheaded mistakes and turn the ball

881
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: over throughout the season. I just wonder how healthy he was,

882
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: Like even going into into the weekend, you were seeing

883
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: reports on.

884
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: Saturday about his shoulder and how serious it might be.

885
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: And he's a competitor who likes to stay in the lineup,

886
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: so he forced himself in. I just I wonder if

887
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: you're going to learn more about his health in the

888
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: days after the season.

889
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 5: He had three separate injuries, and it wasn't like, you know,

890
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 5: he's hobbling around out there. It wasn't Joe Burrow with

891
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 5: his calf situation. But it's like, you're right underneath what

892
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 5: we can't see. It's like, is it affecting even mentally

893
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 5: what you're thinking you can do, because I mean, I

894
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 5: think we saw that, like justin Herbert a year ago

895
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 5: when he was banged up. It's like it changes your

896
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 5: mentality if you don't feel one hundred percent.

897
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: I mean, they were in that division game last year,

898
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: Divisional round game against the Chiefs. They had they really

899
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 3: could have won that game because of the injury to Mahomes,

900
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: but they had drops, they had untimely turnovers, they had

901
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: some sloppy defensive play, and then that kept happening all

902
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: year and basically this season for them was flipped from

903
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: last year. They had that strong finished last year. This

904
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: year they end up collapsing. And I do wonder if

905
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: it's possibly last Mike Frable Game two. We don't know

906
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of insider reporting that feels like

907
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: a fertile situation.

908
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: For some drama.

909
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So the Jaguars go home and we see what

910
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: happens next with them, and let's keep moving. Now, we'll

911
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: head across the sidewalk where the Chiefs and Chargers did

912
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: battle well.

913
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: Se Den and Gold to go. Stick wants to throw it,

914
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna pump faked strabble. He's hit and.

915
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 16: Goes down and fumbles it, picked up by Mike Edwards.

916
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 16: Edwards at the thirty room to run Amena who.

917
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: Knocks it out of Edwards trying to get a defensive score.

918
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 16: Thirty twenty ten five touchdown chamsa city, Mike Edwards, the

919
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 16: king of.

920
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: The pick six, gets a scoop and score.

921
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: Yes, Mitch Holtis with the call, big time scoop and

922
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: score there for the Chiefs, and then they get a

923
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: field goal from Harrison Buger with forty nine seconds to play.

924
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: It's the difference in a thirteen twelve of courses is

925
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: how the Charger season went ends thirteen twelve Chiefs over Chargers,

926
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs finish eleven and six and locked into

927
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: the AFC's number three seed for the playoffs entering the game,

928
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: so Mahomes inactive, Travis Kelcey a healthy scratch. Kelsey, by

929
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: the way, finished with nine hundred and eighty four yards,

930
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: so that ends has been for an eighth straight one

931
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 2: thousand yard season. Me I want to play a series,

932
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: give me that one thousand that get me out. But

933
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: that's his call or the team's call or whatever. We're

934
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: also big time year, big time year. I feel like

935
00:43:54,080 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: we're Bonus celebrations really went mainstream this year. Yeah, Chris Jones,

936
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: and we saw it with a Davian Clowney and several

937
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: other places this week. But Chris Jones has a sack

938
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: that triggered a one point two five million dollar bonus

939
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: and he was on top of the world. So those

940
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: are the things I will remember from this game. Otherwise,

941
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: not really an overly consequential affair.

942
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: In the history of the league.

943
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 5: There aren't too many, as you would say, ultra moribund teams.

944
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: This season.

945
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: There's been a like, you know, you can trust them

946
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 5: to kind of show up. The Chargers season needed to end,

947
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 5: and it needed to end weeks ago, and it mercifully

948
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 5: has come to a conclusion. And I feel like, like

949
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 5: everyone from Austin Ekeler running for eleven yards off ten carries.

950
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 5: Like everything's just bottomed out with this team right now

951
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 5: and it's time for a long winter snapt, a.

952
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: Lot of charges, a lot of Jim Harbor.

953
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 12: Chatter.

954
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: Jim's been trying to get back into the league for

955
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: years through you know, dropping these sources. And he interviewed

956
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: with the Vikings, didn't get that they gave it to O'Connell.

957
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: And it's coaching in the National Championship Championship.

958
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: On Monday, been suspended a couple of times. It really

959
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: sounds like that'll be his last game with Michigan and

960
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: that the Chargers everyone's saying is interested him. And I

961
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: think if they're interested him and they want to hire him,

962
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: I think they probably can. So that'll be the next

963
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: time we talk about the Chargers most likely. I gotta

964
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: think the Chiefs are annoyed though, at the way the

965
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: Sunday Night game ended, because the Dolphins coming into town

966
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: feels much more difficult than the Steelers coming into town.

967
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 3: Like I'm annoyed at the Jaguars first of all for

968
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: losing that game, because it made the Sunday Night game

969
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: feel less important.

970
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't a win some of the Bills.

971
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: It put the Steelers in early, so the Steelers weren't

972
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 3: waiting to find out anything either.

973
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: But the Chiefs, that's a tougher matchup for them Miami.

974
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: I gotta think they're a little more concerned with a

975
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: Dolphins team coming in there than the Steelers.

976
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: I was hoping Jeff Smith was going to get a

977
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: win before his interim run. Maybe just make him head coach.

978
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 2: You could, But they close the season with five straight

979
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: losses well, including three straight after Staly and Telesco got

980
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: let go on December fifteenth. So the Chiefs, we will see.

981
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: They are to me the kind of X factor in

982
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 2: the AFC. If they're true to their form of this year,

983
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: they'll have another disappointing offensive performance and they could be

984
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: one and done and that would be fitting and that

985
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: would make sense.

986
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, never know. It's kind of crazy. Then

987
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: do you think it's also possible they go on a run?

988
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely based on sure, it's possible. A men's history. Like, yeah,

989
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: a men's history. Yeah, I mean that's all it's about.

990
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: It's not about anything we saw really this year.

991
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: It would be surprising if they suddenly became elected.

992
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is their quarterback. But we've been saying that

993
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: all year. That's why they are a tough one to

994
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: figure out. All right, let's take a break and then

995
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: we will keep rolling. All right, let's keep moving here.

996
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: Let's head to Cincinnati where the Bengals are looking and

997
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: their season with a winning record.

998
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: That Brown's nothing to play for his.

999
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 12: First down in goal from the seven. Joe Mixon has

1000
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 12: one rushing touchdown so far here in the first quarter.

1001
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 12: He's in the backfield to the left of Jake Browning,

1002
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 12: running back at the twelve, ready for the snap. Catches

1003
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 12: looks left coast to Mixon.

1004
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: Just half a cell and he's into.

1005
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 3: The end zone.

1006
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Touchdown Bengals by Joe Mixon with a touchdown run and

1007
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: a touchdown catch and the Bengals are up by two tds.

1008
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: Fun fact mark Dave Lapham gets paid three hundred and

1009
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: twenty seven thousand dollars a year.

1010
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: Just to go boom boom. Well, I don't know who

1011
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: else you can put in that spots knowing Yeah, Dan.

1012
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: Hord with a call with Dave Lapham with the booms

1013
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: w ck y Jake Browning through three touchdown passes. Joe

1014
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: Mixon rushed for a season high buck eleven and a

1015
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: score also cut that touchdown. The Bengals coast to a

1016
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: thirty one fourteen win over the Browns. The Bengals led

1017
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: this game twenty four to nothing at halftime on a

1018
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: day when Cleveland locked into the fifth seed of the

1019
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: afc rested their key players on each side of the ball.

1020
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: Mark since he misses out on the postseason, but they

1021
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: do finish nine and eight over five hundred, a nice

1022
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: achievement given the slow start. It was a horrendously slow start,

1023
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: and then of course the Burrow injury that ended his season.

1024
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 5: It's also because they have a winning record, the first

1025
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 5: time that this division has all finished with a winning

1026
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 5: record since the version of this division that goes back

1027
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 5: to like nineteen thirty something from something called the NFL West.

1028
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: I'd be curious how many divisions since the realignment.

1029
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 13: No.

1030
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 11: Two.

1031
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: I think it's very very many times it's happened. It's

1032
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: got to be this in the oh.

1033
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 5: So that's that's a nice finish for the Bengals. On

1034
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 5: that note, I mean, this game had me wondering, you know,

1035
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 5: in the old days, they would take like the nfv

1036
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 5: NFL title team and how them go play sometime later

1037
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 5: in the winner like.

1038
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: A collection of like college all stars. And that's what

1039
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: I thought. This game kind of was a test sample

1040
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: for a little bit.

1041
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 5: It was like everyone of importance for the Browns was

1042
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 5: not on the field, and like the most dismayed, annoyed

1043
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 5: person to me seemed like Jim Schwartz, who had had

1044
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 5: this like pristine defense and is watching like these marks

1045
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 5: like because you know they had, Like some of the

1046
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 5: stuff they've done goes back decades for this Browns team

1047
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 5: in terms of what they've achieved. After the first quarter

1048
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 5: was one hundred and fifty nine yards to zero, at halftime,

1049
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 5: it was two hundred and forty one to seven, one

1050
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: to seventy one. Jeff Driscoll throws an interception on the

1051
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 5: first pass of the game. Joe Mixon, I'm glad you

1052
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 5: mentioned him because he's one of them, all these players

1053
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 5: today and they really dug in on this on these broadcasts.

1054
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 5: But because he crossed a thousand yards, he triggered like

1055
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 5: a three hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus. And there's

1056
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 5: a bunch of players that are going crazy like everyone's

1057
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 5: very and it's fine.

1058
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: Everyone's very open about with the celebrations. Now when they

1059
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: hit the trigger the escalator, I.

1060
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: Guess it matters. I mean I don't like honestly, it's

1061
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: like you guess it matters.

1062
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 5: No, I mean for some of their salaries, it's it's

1063
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 5: it's a portion, but like you know, bonuses are nice.

1064
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 5: We all feel like, I don't know what else to

1065
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 5: take from this game. It's like they just did their

1066
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 5: work and Cleveland don't have anything. It was it's my

1067
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 5: one thought was like, you can't have even though it's

1068
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 5: Week eighteen, you can't have too many of you can't

1069
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 5: have too many regular season games like this.

1070
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: It just was a weird setup.

1071
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 5: Like if you were if you paid a lot of

1072
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 5: money to go to the stadium, it's it was just

1073
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 5: a strange.

1074
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: At least it was in Cincinnati.

1075
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 3: You're gonna have probably over under three a year, and

1076
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: it's unfortunate.

1077
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: You're right, like you have to like the ticket payers.

1078
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: Either that's like the biggest game of the year, or

1079
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: it's a guy who is on the Cardinals practice squad

1080
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: literally two weeks ago draft with yeah they signed them

1081
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: and started this game, but yeah, that it's the last

1082
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: time we'll see the Bengals like this. That's my only

1083
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: thought that you know, mix In actually might be back.

1084
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 3: But Tyler Boyd, who had a big drop in this game,

1085
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: had a really tough year. Higgins like, this team is

1086
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: not going to be the same next year. And it's

1087
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 3: weird because that Taylor did a good job coaching, I think,

1088
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: and I agree showed that this year.

1089
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: It's also weird though that Jake.

1090
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: Browning like and quarterback wins is not a stat but

1091
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: they had a winning record with Jake Browning. They didn't

1092
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: with Joe Burrow. They were there five hundred with Joe Burrow.

1093
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: They were won over with Jake Browning. So it's just

1094
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: that sort of weird season. And yes, the injury was

1095
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 3: a big part of that early even the first though injury,

1096
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: that's what I mean. It was, That's what I mean,

1097
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 3: the first injury without heard of him, maybe Jack Jake

1098
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 3: Browning was playing early in the season. You let Burrow

1099
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 3: get healthy. They're in the dance, but they didn't and

1100
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: they're not.

1101
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: Let's move to Foxborough where it was a potentially historic

1102
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: end of an era for the home team.

1103
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 11: High Formation Breese Hall, the I back takes another hand off,

1104
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 11: runs left, buying some.

1105
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 9: Room, gets free down the side goes Brice Hall and

1106
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 9: the thirty and seven twenty Brights. The tackle ten five

1107
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 9: touchdown plans an icing on the cake jet touchdown for

1108
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 9: Brice Hall, snow Angels, and the offensive ends on for

1109
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 9: the Jets.

1110
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: Rots went away.

1111
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: I gotta say seeing Robert Craft kind of slinking out

1112
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: of the box on the CBS telecast. Yeah, it cost

1113
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: us draft pick standings, but it's nice to just win

1114
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: up there. I don't want to be part of Bill

1115
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: Belichick's victory parade out of town.

1116
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: Okay, No, the opposite occurred.

1117
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: Breese Hall rush for one hundred and seventy four yards

1118
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: and the clinching score on thirty seven carries. This Jets

1119
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: coaching staff drives me crazy, I think, because they're trying

1120
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: to get him a thousand yards, which he just missed.

1121
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: But thirty seven carries in Week eighteen as well, and

1122
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: the Jets snap a fifteen game losing streak against the

1123
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: Patriots with a seventeen to three win. It might be

1124
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: probably is Bill Belichick's final game with the team for

1125
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: which he's lifted six Lombardi Trophies. And nine trips to

1126
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, the greatest run by a head coach ever,

1127
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: and if this is the end for Belichick, and Jay

1128
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: Glazer of Fox reported Sunday morning that that is almost

1129
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: certainly the case here. It's just a matter of how

1130
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: it's going to end. It was a meek exit for

1131
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: the team that's just been a wretched team all year.

1132
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: They manages one hundred and nineteen yards of total offense,

1133
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: which is the lowest in Belichick's twenty plus years. On

1134
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: the sideline, it was bad weather there, but this is

1135
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's not just about the weather. This has

1136
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: been a bad offense all year. The Patriots went four

1137
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: and thirteen, which is the worst record in Belichick's twenty

1138
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: nine year NFL coaching history, and after the game, Bill

1139
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 2: was predictably tight lipped on his future.

1140
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 17: You know, it's a disappointing year for all of us players, coaches, staff, tire, organization.

1141
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 17: Not anything that any of us are in any way

1142
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 17: content with.

1143
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: So but it is what it is.

1144
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 17: As far as the future goes, I'll sit down with

1145
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 17: Robert as I do every year at some point at

1146
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 17: the end of the season, and you know, we'll talk

1147
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 17: about things as we always do. Sure that'll happen. But

1148
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 17: that's really about all I have to say about that

1149
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 17: right now, because there's something else to talk about.

1150
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: Uh, there's plenty to talk about. But he was also sick,

1151
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: by the way, That's why his voice sounded that way.

1152
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 5: I mean, it doesn't sound like something that's going to

1153
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 5: happen like tomorrow morning, like. And also the other reports

1154
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 5: out there is I like, if they move on from

1155
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 5: like their long targeted replacement would be Jared Mayo, So

1156
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 5: it's like, you don't have to rush you're gonna rush

1157
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 5: out and hire someone else necessarily.

1158
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: He sounded defeated to me. Was weird.

1159
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 5: It was a weird site because it was obviously, like,

1160
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 5: you know, Belichick not wearing his normal hoodie's like in

1161
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 5: a parka with his entire body and face covered in

1162
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 5: a blinding snowstorm. And while the offense, which is not

1163
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three offense, is going one for fourteen

1164
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 5: on third down, you've got no answers to quarterback. Even

1165
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 5: if he were to stick around, there's a lot to

1166
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 5: work on.

1167
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I never thought he was sticking around

1168
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 3: at any point in the last two and a half months.

1169
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: There's no reason to think that when Robert Craft looked

1170
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: out into the stands. If you're watching us on YouTube,

1171
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 3: we have a tweet of just what the crowd looked

1172
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: like in this game. And yes there's a snowstorm, but

1173
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of snowstorms with full crowds. If

1174
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: they were playing meaningful football, there would be a full crowd.

1175
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: There were audible jets, chances, it was wild.

1176
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: It was empty at Jillette Stadium, as Bill Belichi, and

1177
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 3: it's fine. It's unfortunate it had to end this badly,

1178
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 3: but it usually ends badly. I'm, as a Patriots fan,

1179
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 3: just hopeful they kind of stick the landing of how

1180
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 3: this goes. That it's not ranked.

1181
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: You know, there's not a lot of rancor and drama

1182
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: and bad blood. And we'll see.

1183
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 3: He called a seven thirty am press conference tomorrow Bill

1184
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 3: Belichick to say, like the end of the year thing

1185
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: with the media on zoom. So, you know, Merry Christmas,

1186
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: happy that you're Mike Giardi. You're getting up early. I

1187
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 3: assume he's showing up for that because seven thirty am,

1188
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: you would you would think nothing's happened. By seven thirty eight,

1189
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: it's hard to it's hard.

1190
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: To imagine it.

1191
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: But like, you know, the Patriots first without Brady, but

1192
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: now without Belichick, if that's where this is gonna go down.

1193
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: And you know, I was on a couple of different

1194
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: fatalistic Jets text threads and everybody's like, oh, they beat

1195
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: the Pats and now that they're gonna get a big

1196
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: time quarterback, Well maybe they have a third overall pick,

1197
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 2: and maybe the Pats do, but they don't have Tom

1198
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: Brady anymore. They don't have Bill Belichick anymore. And it's

1199
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 2: a whole new error for the Patriots. It's not anything

1200
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: like it used to be. And they have to kind

1201
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: of start over most likely. And that's that's a crazy thing.

1202
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 2: That is a crazy thing to think about, because this

1203
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: franchise has been synonymous with stability and greatness for so

1204
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: long and now they're kind of like everybody else, just

1205
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: trying to figure out a quarterback, a coach, a decision

1206
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: maker when it comes to building a roster.

1207
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: It's a new day in New England, right.

1208
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: I look at the back on this podcast, in the

1209
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: history of our podcast, at least if looked at through

1210
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 3: one very specific prism, was the history of like saying

1211
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: that the Patriots era was over, and then it wasn't

1212
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 3: like at various points believing, oh, is this the end

1213
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: of the Patriots era? For it started in twenty fourteen,

1214
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: Is this the end of the Patriots era? Then we

1215
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: got to twenty eighteen, Wow they got another super Bowl?

1216
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: Is this the end?

1217
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 3: The next year when they lost to the Titans in

1218
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: that final game and the Dolphins in the final regular shay, okay,

1219
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 3: this is the end.

1220
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: And then it's like Cam Newton and Mac Jones.

1221
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: Now you look back and you think, wow, they had

1222
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: a winning record with Cam Newton and they made the playoffs,

1223
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: but back to that was actually a good coaching job,

1224
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 3: and it's like that's the end. And so it's just

1225
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 3: been like a successive like decline of decreasing returns on

1226
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 3: these endings, and I think it will be good. And

1227
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: that's why I'm not totally in love with the drawd

1228
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,959
Speaker 3: Mayo idea, and not sure I even totally buy it either,

1229
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: because it feels like, maybe just start totally anew, start

1230
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: totally anew.

1231
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 5: I don't know, I thought, I thought, I don't know

1232
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 5: what what happened corner of the market with this one,

1233
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 5: you know, I thought, I'll I'll lock up New England.

1234
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 5: He was going to be a rousing final curtain call

1235
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 5: for Bill Belichick. And and you know, part of attach

1236
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 5: to that was like actually trying to wish well for

1237
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 5: the Jets, who would have a better draft pick. And

1238
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 5: you know, as you told me when you came into

1239
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 5: the office today, don't put any of your fortunes ever

1240
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 5: attaching them to the New York.

1241
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: Jets just a terribly fit. It's not going to give

1242
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: you what you want.

1243
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: They're not going to That is one I don't know much,

1244
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: but in my time on this earth, that team's not

1245
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: going to give you what you want.

1246
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: Even if it's a day where they won, they didn't

1247
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: give you what you wanted.

1248
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: They fell what yeah, from the sixth spot where the

1249
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 3: Giants will pick now ten spot, which is not insignificant.

1250
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: But I gotta say, like that was the first time

1251
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: they beat him since I remember being in the old

1252
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: newsroom in Culver City when they had that overtime walk

1253
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: off with Eric Decker from Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's just nice.

1254
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: It's nice to win. Maybe this is a part of

1255
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: getting older. I'm getting more closer to the Keith Hands

1256
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: side of things. I don't want them to lose all

1257
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: the time. I just even if it hurt him, like

1258
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: it was nice winning that game and not letting it

1259
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: be this Belichick and Craft party, because I saw way

1260
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: too many of those over.

1261
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: The last twenty years. All right, let's keep moving.

1262
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: Let's go to Las Vegas, where Antonio Pears was trying

1263
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: to end his successful internship with a win.

1264
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 9: O'Connell starts the fourth first and ten on the thirty

1265
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 9: three pump fix of the left, takes the shot deep

1266
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 9: down the left sideline, pumping that the five is Myners.

1267
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: Catches, walks in touchdown.

1268
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 16: Raiders ca pump fake froze the defense and Myers down

1269
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 16: the sideline.

1270
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: He has run one in, he has cut one.

1271
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 9: And the Raiders in full control here on the first

1272
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 9: play on the fourth quarter.

1273
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: Former Patriots Agobe Myers had a nice debut season with

1274
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: the Raiders. He had two touchdowns, and yes, Antonio Pierce

1275
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: does get yet another win to close out the season.

1276
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: Evan to fourteen.

1277
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: The Raiders beat the Broncos on a day in which

1278
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell threw for two hundred and forty four yards

1279
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 2: and two scores. Zamir White went over one hundred yards,

1280
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: and that is eight straight wins for the Raiders over

1281
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: the Broncos, including all four wins since they moved to Vegas.

1282
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: So these are two teams eight and nine in a

1283
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: division that is still the Chiefs Division, but the Chiefs

1284
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: came back to the pack a little bit this year.

1285
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: The interesting offseason ahead for both teams, neither going to

1286
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

1287
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 5: Neither intrigued me on any level in terms of, like

1288
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 5: what happened today. I've kind of been pitching, and I

1289
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 5: think that Antonio Pierce deserves a long look. I think

1290
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 5: we'll get one. Penn's who else is out there for

1291
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 5: Mark Davis to consider? I mean, they flat out just

1292
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 5: played better under him. I mean even to like lose

1293
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 5: Josh Shacombs and have someone like Zamir White come in

1294
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 5: and run the way he did.

1295
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: Their defense.

1296
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 5: We talked about, like leading in points per game allowed

1297
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 5: since he's taken over. These things are tangible evidence that

1298
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 5: the team's playing hard for him. Uh, you know, I

1299
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 5: to me, it's like, I don't know what else you

1300
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 5: could have asked an interim to come in and do.

1301
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: That still may not be.

1302
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: Enough, Right, He's five and four. Uh, as as the

1303
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: interim head coach. Neither of these teams deserve to have

1304
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: a winning record, so I like that he put that.

1305
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 10: They're just celebrating right relations to their peers. I've been

1306
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 10: sitting on that for weeks. It was Zaustria bump and

1307
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 10: I'm like, oh, I love man, I have a court

1308
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 10: bottle popping and I'm like, that's on me. I should

1309
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 10: have known because you did tell me that, and I

1310
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 10: love it. The Peers pop absolutely, and there's been a

1311
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 10: Peers pop this year.

1312
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: I do like that.

1313
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: Sean Payton said all week it was very important for

1314
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 3: them to finish with the winning record.

1315
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: This game mattered. I'll eat it to him and then

1316
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: he ate it.

1317
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: I think it's fair for Broncos fans to, you know,

1318
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 3: I wanted them to curb their optimism a little bit

1319
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: because I'm not sure where this organization is going to

1320
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 3: either one of these teams.

1321
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: But here's what I know, Broncos.

1322
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: Fans, if you lose eight straight games to the Raiders

1323
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenties, you're a disgrace.

1324
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they know eight straight to the Raiders. That's

1325
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: so ran. They know that they do better against the Chiefs.

1326
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: What what what bizarre?

1327
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: And the crowd was chanting AP with one on one

1328
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: to play. According to the AP, oh that's pretty cool.

1329
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And I'm the way into the stadium.

1330
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 3: All there were all these fans there that were like

1331
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: had signs up for Antonio Pears and all this stuff.

1332
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: As he's driving in, they know the way he drives in,

1333
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: and he.

1334
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 3: Parks his car, gets out of the car and goes

1335
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: around and hugs like fifty of them.

1336
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: That's the sign of a man who's like this guy, mother, Teresa,

1337
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1338
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: He's just like, I don't know if I'm gonna get

1339
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 3: to do this ever.

1340
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: Again in my life.

1341
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to enjoy it and thank these people very

1342
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 3: forgiving me some Pierce Pop Pierce Pop.

1343
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: All right, that is the AFC. We're going to take

1344
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: a break and then we'll hit the NFC side of things. See,

1345
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: it's a tournament's American Football Conference and a National Football Conference,

1346
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: and they have their own tournament, and the winners of

1347
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: their respective tournaments they play in the big one.

1348
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: I hope that there's someone out there that did not

1349
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: know that that you actually just taught them that that

1350
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: would be well.

1351
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: I've taught my sons, that and that kind of when

1352
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: you first become cognizant to the way the conference structure works.

1353
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: It's a pretty big thing.

1354
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're still trying to figure this out. It's so

1355
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: like both tournaments are very exciting, and then to have

1356
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 3: the winner of the tournament face off in a bowl game.

1357
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: In its own tournament, a tournament of one game, a

1358
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: super Bowl of champions.

1359
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: It's a super Bowl pretty out there, Mark, Do you

1360
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: want us to continue to talk about this?

1361
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Well let's take a break.

1362
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: We'll talk during the break about it, and then we'll

1363
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: hit the NFC, which is the other conference.

1364
01:03:51,640 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: Correct, All right, we'll be right back. Welcome back.

1365
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: Yes, we just took a stroll through the AFC, and

1366
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: this the final week of the regular season playoff football

1367
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: just ahead. Now, let's dive into the NFC side of things,

1368
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 2: and let us start with some business, the business of

1369
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 2: winning divisions. Okay, and that starts in landover with the

1370
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys.

1371
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: And this is unlikely. Nobody saw this coming.

1372
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys, who seemed to be locked into that

1373
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: number five seat a couple weeks ago. Nobody realized the

1374
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 2: depth of Philadelphia's issues. The door opens for the Cowboys.

1375
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: All they have to do is beat the lowly Commanders.

1376
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: Could they get it done?

1377
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1378
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 11: Prescott's in the gun, back to throw, looking right, scrambles left,

1379
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 11: still got it, scrambles back right, frozen the enzone.

1380
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: Cut for a touchdown in the back of the end zone.

1381
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: My CD Lamb, I see you, you see me?

1382
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 2: That is up with that one, Brad Sham the sham god,

1383
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 2: friend of the show, kr ld Dak Prescott to cede Lamb,

1384
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: unstoppable Lamb put the finishing touches on one of the

1385
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 2: great statistical seasons ever by a wide receiver, ply in

1386
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: thirteen passes for ninety eight yards and two more touchdowns.

1387
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 2: By the way, I think I said the other day,

1388
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: he scored in nine straight games. And running backs you

1389
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: see stuff like that quarterbacks. But a wide receiver scoring

1390
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: in nine straight games, that's wild. And the Cowboys roll

1391
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: the Commanders thirty eight ten, as they were supposed to

1392
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,959
Speaker 2: to claim the NFC East title from those free falling

1393
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: Eagles who were going to get to in a bit.

1394
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: The two seat Cowboys will host the seven seeded Packers

1395
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: next weekend.

1396
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: And that is a spicy meatball. My friends, It is.

1397
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 3: An extremely spicy beetball and we'll have a week to

1398
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 3: talk about that. The Packers and Matt Laflour could get

1399
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 3: their old buddy Matt McCarthy fired if they win that game.

1400
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 3: But for todight, the Cowboys should enjoy it because this

1401
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 3: is progress, even though it's the Eagles that.

1402
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: Kind of o in a week, But enjoy this moment, right.

1403
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: Well, that's I'm not reporting anything in particular. No, it's

1404
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 3: out there chefter I and they're basically saying like it'll

1405
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 3: depend on how the playoffs go, so you can draw

1406
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 3: your conclusions. But this was a different Cowboys season. They

1407
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: did take care of big business in like important spots consistently.

1408
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott just preposterous today. Five and five incompletions, four touchdowns, Yeah, and.

1409
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: He's thrown the ball with like ten minutes to go

1410
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: in the game and they're up three or four scores.

1411
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: And we had a good theory why the way.

1412
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: So I was wondering at a certain point because we

1413
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: saw it a lot this week with guys looking to

1414
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: hit escalators in their contract and hit certain numbers. I

1415
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: was like, are they trying to get him another touchdown

1416
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: in case, this MVP vote comes down to him versus

1417
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: La Marx. I think he is Dak probably not gonna

1418
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: win MVP, but I think he's going to come in

1419
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: second place.

1420
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: And he didn't get that extra touchdown, but he stayed healthy.

1421
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 2: That's a very important aspect of this for the Cowboys

1422
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: who get out of this game, as from what I

1423
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: saw as we are recording the shortly after the game,

1424
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 2: without any serious injuries. Michael Parsons laughing on the sideline

1425
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, as I said, ceed Lamb, unbelievable

1426
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: what he's been able to do. And you know, it

1427
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 2: is a different Cowboys team, and we might be saying

1428
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: something totally different if they lay an egg next week.

1429
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: But this regular season was different because they did find

1430
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: a way to steal that division. They the team that

1431
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: took care of business today. I feel like other Cowboys

1432
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: teams in the past. This game is thirteen to ten

1433
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: early in the fourth quarter, and in this game, in

1434
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 2: the second quarter, the Commanders are ahead, but you get

1435
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: sense there was no panic. They go ahead on a

1436
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: long drive, get a turnover right before the half, and

1437
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: then punching it again with Lamb's first touchdown of the day.

1438
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: And the game's effectively over at halftime. So good job

1439
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 2: by the Dallas Cowboys and we see what comes that

1440
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 2: because I think I think one and done obviously would

1441
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: be totally unacceptable mark for this team. Do you have

1442
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: to get to NFC title game where they haven't been

1443
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: in twenty eight years? Is that what says Mike McCarthy's job.

1444
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: But I think there's some odd and off putting to me,

1445
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm a Zadi fan that that's what

1446
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: we're talking about right now because they've had such a

1447
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: big time year and the playoffs are a crap shooting.

1448
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: They're playing a big time team next week. I think

1449
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 2: the Packers are a very good opponent.

1450
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: They are.

1451
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 5: I would say the reason that dynamic exist is because

1452
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 5: we see this Cowboys team as one that should win

1453
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 5: multiple playoff games.

1454
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: They really should. They are different to me.

1455
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 5: Last year's team tripped up against Washington in the finale

1456
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 5: and then stumbled in the playoffs in extraordinary fashion for

1457
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 5: the second year in a row. It would be pretty

1458
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 5: stunning if this team went and did that because I

1459
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 5: think that part of their DNA is not present right now.

1460
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 5: I know they've had some a couple of weeks that

1461
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 5: make you question everything. But to me right now, I

1462
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 5: think it was a question of balance with the Cowboys,

1463
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 5: like are you going to continue to get run over

1464
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 5: on the ground by teams with the ground game?

1465
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: And today, I know it's not a great Washington offense,

1466
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:50,759
Speaker 1: but they put.

1467
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 5: The clamstent on that and I thought we saw a

1468
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 5: better version, least for stretches of this game of Tony Pollard.

1469
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 5: He's not the guy that you thought he'd be or

1470
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 5: who you'd win a huge first he did. He had

1471
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 5: like fifty seven yards and you know, he made a difference.

1472
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 5: And I think that aspect because they're going to get

1473
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 5: into some tight spots, like if you can be balanced

1474
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 5: in those two areas, it makes Dak Prescott, who is

1475
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 5: playing out of his mind right now, all that much.

1476
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: Better, right.

1477
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 3: Stefan Gilmore did have his shoulder pop out of place,

1478
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: he said during the game, and then he didn't return,

1479
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 3: but he says he popped it back in and oh yeah,

1480
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: he says he'll be fine for.

1481
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: Next He was in a sling on the sideline but

1482
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: he was kind of chuckling it up on the side. Yeah,

1483
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: he said after the game he should be fine. I'm

1484
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: with you. The run game matters.

1485
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 3: Seedee Lamb's numbers that you mentioned one hundred and thirty

1486
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 3: four catches, seventeen hundred and forty nine yards and twelve.

1487
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: And he caught all thirteen of his targets. That is

1488
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: an outrageous season.

1489
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 3: And it's hard to take too much out of the

1490
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 3: Cowboys here because this the Commanders have been the biggest

1491
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 3: dead team walking in the league. Ron Rivera saying after

1492
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 3: the game he didn't know when he was going to

1493
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 3: meet with ownership, but you would think that is going

1494
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 3: to come on Monday before we do our next show.

1495
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: The Black Monday Show, And after that Week six loss

1496
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 2: to the Niners is when. And they said it during

1497
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 2: the telecast today, which I hadn't heard. Maybe I did,

1498
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: but you know, so much stuff comes across our desk

1499
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 2: throughout the season that ceede LeAnn went into Mike McCarthy's

1500
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 2: office after they got blown out by the Nyers and said,

1501
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 2: you got to start treating me like a true number one.

1502
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 2: You got to get me the rock. And he had

1503
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred yards after week six. I mean, this is

1504
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: that's an all time season. And if he doesn't win,

1505
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: an offensive player of the year, it wouldn't be a travesty,

1506
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 2: but I think I think he definitely in a very

1507
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 2: serious way now taking and that's a fair pink and

1508
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: Tyreek is a fair pick. But I think Ceedee Lamb

1509
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 2: cannot be overlooked at this point. One last note. On

1510
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: the Sunday Night football pregame telecast, Mike Florio your old

1511
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: boss Gregy reported that Commander's owner Josh Harris is quote

1512
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: enamored with the idea of Bill Belichick as his.

1513
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 1: Next head coach.

1514
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 3: Now heard this from different reporters, have just out there,

1515
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 3: your boss and different teams for a different you know,

1516
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 3: and maybe they all are.

1517
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 2: And he was once enamored with Greg Mike Florio and

1518
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: these are well things changed and then he was very

1519
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: much not enamored.

1520
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: When when things changed and I came to around the NFL,

1521
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 3: what a what a decision.

1522
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: What a flash point?

1523
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 13: That was?

1524
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep moving on. So the Lions entered

1525
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: Week eighteen hoping to move up to the number two seed,

1526
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: which obviously now we know that the Cowboys are there,

1527
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 2: but it didn't matter. Dan Campbell is going to play

1528
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 2: as starters. And let's see what happened against the team

1529
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 2: of around the NFL.

1530
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: Jared takes turns, fakes, the gift sets in the pocket.

1531
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: Jared drifts left, looked. Look now he throws downfield.

1532
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 3: It is caught left sideline cutting back.

1533
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: That is I'm and Ross Saint Brown angleing get the

1534
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: twenty five to the twenty cut back at the ten.

1535
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: The five fighting at the two.

1536
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 7: Touchdown Detroit line, Oh baby water run by Ross Saint

1537
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 7: Brown anglely across the field, cutting it back seventy yards

1538
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 7: from Jared Goff.

1539
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: I just in court in my eye see Mark shaking

1540
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: his head dark, genuinely upset. I'm not upset at all.

1541
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,480
Speaker 5: I actually just I just imagine like the actual announcing

1542
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 5: crew in the booth, and then you're just behind them

1543
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 5: like screaming something.

1544
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 2: I'm like the fans. Yea here under Dan Miller's voice,

1545
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 2: no drink dumped on you. I wish I had a

1546
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: drink right now. A mon Ross Ain't Brown from seventy

1547
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: yards out because Dan Campbell doesn't rest a starter. Dan

1548
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: Campbell doesn't rest period. Jared Goff threw a couple of

1549
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, and the Lines close out a fine regular

1550
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: season with a thirty to twenty win.

1551
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: Over the Vikings.

1552
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: Yes, the three seeded Lions, so it ended up they

1553
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: couldn't move because Cowboys wouldn't let it happen. Still finished

1554
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 2: twelve and five, Greggy. That matches their nineteen ninety one

1555
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: team win total all time.

1556
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 3: Wow.

1557
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: Late an extra game this year, but still they will

1558
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 2: host a playoff game for the first time since the

1559
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three season.

1560
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 1: Mark. That's camp happiness, Trek.

1561
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 18: It is.

1562
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: It's back in that zen when they were playing at

1563
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 2: the old Pontiac's Silver Dome. Their opponent at Ford Field

1564
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: will be the Rams and a former franchise cornerstone, Matt Stafford.

1565
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: He gotta love that.

1566
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: But Gregi Campbell's aggressive decision to play his starters did

1567
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 2: prove costly.

1568
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1569
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 3: Sam Laporta's injury to me was the most important part

1570
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 3: of this game. A knee injury that Dan Campbell said

1571
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: after the game was not as bad as they feared,

1572
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: but it was bad and the reporting indicates it's some

1573
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 3: sort of he They called it. A ian called it

1574
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 3: a bone bruise and something else hyper extension, hyper extension,

1575
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 3: But it cast.

1576
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: A few weeks.

1577
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 3: Sounded like he would probably miss a game, which is

1578
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 3: really disappointing, and it wasn't the only injury in this game.

1579
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 3: Brian Branch left but was gonna it, says after the

1580
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 3: game that he's going to be fine. And then Khalif Raymond,

1581
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 3: who played a really big part in this game, also

1582
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 3: was injured, and that one did not look good. And

1583
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 3: you think, Okay, Cleiff Ramon good returner, kind of a

1584
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 3: speed threat, but not that important. He was important today

1585
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 3: because Jamison Williams is also injured right now, and maybe

1586
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 3: Jamison Williams.

1587
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: Will be back, and Raymond was playing that role.

1588
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 3: And Raymond's punt return and his forty one yard catch

1589
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 3: were monster plays in a game that the Lions always

1590
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 3: felt like they had. They were up two scores most

1591
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: of the game, but it didn't look like two teams

1592
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 3: that were wildly uneven. The Vikings ended up tallying up

1593
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 3: in true Nick Mallins fashion four hundred and forty eight yards.

1594
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: He had three ninety six, and the two teams were

1595
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 3: kind of going back and forth and the Lions getting

1596
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 3: it done when they needed to.

1597
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: So that is disappointed. I don't kill Dan Campbell for

1598
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: playing his guys.

1599
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 3: It happens, but this was close to the worst case scenario,

1600
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 3: and as Lions fans, I can hear you in my

1601
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 3: head right now pointing out Cleif Rayman would have been

1602
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 3: playing in this game. Yes, you can't avoid injuries. Cleif Raymond,

1603
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 3: for instance, would have been playing Lynn Laportam. Maybe he

1604
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 3: would have been playing too, because they already have injuries

1605
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 3: at ti end. You can only sit so many players.

1606
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 3: But it was just and in fairness, yes, they were

1607
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 3: playing for something.

1608
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah you are. Yeah, they had a chance if things

1609
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: went to move up a spot.

1610
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 2: And if you're the two seed, you know you're one

1611
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: major upset away from maybe hosting the NFC title game.

1612
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: So it didn't work out. You understand the frustration by

1613
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 2: certain corners of Lions fandom, but ultimately it's this is

1614
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 2: the game and it comes with the risk.

1615
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 5: Well, and the Dan Campbell Lions have an inherently aggressive

1616
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 5: approach to everything, so it would have been a typical

1617
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 5: for them to pull your watching Philadelphia get waxed on

1618
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 5: the scoreboard and the Cowboys commander's game was closed for

1619
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 5: a stretch at least, and so you keep going with

1620
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 5: those guys. I mean, I cannot stand what happened to

1621
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 5: the Porto though, because this came on a day where

1622
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 5: his touchdown catch, his eighty second catch of the season,

1623
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 5: broke Keith Jackson's rookie tight end receiving record.

1624
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: He's been so important to them. The Lions just the

1625
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: way that they're built.

1626
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 5: They are four different players with ten plus scrimmage touchdowns,

1627
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 5: which is it's the second most by any team in

1628
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 5: NFL history. They're really balanced, they're really constructed. They've been healthy.

1629
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 5: Outside of losing some running back play here and there.

1630
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 1: They've been really healthy.

1631
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 5: So to lose Laporta like a week before the biggest

1632
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 5: Lions game in decades is highly unfortunate.

1633
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, their run game was very blat today, so that

1634
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 3: was a little I wouldn't say worrisome, but it was

1635
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 3: atypical of what they've been throughout this season. But Gibbs

1636
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 3: did get a touchdown in him and Laporta are the

1637
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 3: first rookie teammates ever to have ten touchdowns in a season.

1638
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 3: But Aiden Hutchinson's I think had two of his best games,

1639
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 3: if not the best games of his career in back

1640
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 3: to back weeks.

1641
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 1: He was dominant in this game. So they do have

1642
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: a lot of positives.

1643
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 3: But I'm sure there's plenty of Lions fans out there

1644
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 3: that see Matthew Stafford on the horizon and they think, Oh,

1645
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 3: isn't that fitting?

1646
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: We have to get over this. How about that?

1647
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 5: There was one amazing little tidbit that happened in this game. Yes,

1648
01:16:58,320 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 5: that you know, and this is a very Dan Campbell

1649
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 5: thing too. He had Dan Skipper come in and report

1650
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 5: eligible and then he caught a pass on a drive

1651
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 5: that resulted in a touchdown a couples a.

1652
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 3: Couple of plays later, it was Dan Campbell in motion,

1653
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 3: essentially playing a tight end with a huge block that

1654
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 3: set up David Montgomery for the touchdown.

1655
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: Dan Skipper, that would be even more impressed. Sorry, yeat,

1656
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: it was the Dan Skipper drive.

1657
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 3: He gets the catch, he gets the block, and we

1658
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 3: say goodbye to you know what, wasn't the best decision

1659
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 3: in the world to go a team of atl for

1660
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 3: the Vikings, but you went some. It was some We

1661
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 3: thought we'd have justin Jefferson this all time, and he

1662
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 3: was a little in and out. He did get twelve

1663
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: for one to ninety two in this game. He has

1664
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 3: over a thousand yards. This stat is better than a

1665
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 3: lot of these Lions stats because all these stats are like, oh,

1666
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 3: we got the seventeen games. He's one of only three

1667
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 3: receivers in NFL history to top one thousand yards in

1668
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 3: ten games or less. And the other two were like,

1669
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: you know, like Connor O mcgillicky in like nineteen forty one.

1670
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: I'll say this real.

1671
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 2: Person And so Jefferson, this is from the thirty third

1672
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 2: team on Twitter. He missed seven games, as you said,

1673
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 2: he missed parts of two other games, right to still

1674
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 2: break one thousand yards and to to to put a

1675
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: a final period on the team of atn I think

1676
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: at the quarter if Dobbs continued to play, well.

1677
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: That's the whole other sit projecting and hanging her head.

1678
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 2: And I think they would have been they would have

1679
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: been one of the teams that you know, they could

1680
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 2: have been the Packers, but instead Dobbs faltered and then

1681
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: they they kind of ran out of jewe.

1682
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 5: So what's also what makes shepard since achievement that like

1683
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 5: he played with a total quarterback tornado.

1684
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 3: They collapse. I mean that this was the ultimate Mullins game.

1685
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 3: He got three ninety six about a couple of late touchdowns.

1686
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: Oh, Dan Campbell, Dan Skipper.

1687
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: Dan ansis also big news here because I'm on a

1688
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 2: roll now in the locks, and I think I just

1689
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: moved past the custog and the.

1690
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 5: Disaster occurred on my on my side of things, Daddy

1691
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 5: Rich making a move that silver badle. I'll actually glad

1692
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 5: it worked out for you. So we don't have to

1693
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 5: it's it's it's just it's better this.

1694
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 2: Way, all right, Let's uh keep moving. So let's what

1695
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: else is going on in the NFC. Yeah, those those Eagles,

1696
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: so they were at the mercy of the Cowboys. But

1697
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 2: it's important to know that the Eagles and Cowboys kick

1698
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: off at the same time. Eagles don't know what's gonna happen,

1699
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: you know. They they go out and take care of

1700
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 2: business against the Giants, and then you hope for the best.

1701
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: They did not take care of business. Everything everything that

1702
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: you can go wrong around the Eagles right now, it's

1703
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 2: Murphy's law. Taylor mistern last weeks, Taylor back to throw,

1704
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 2: he's underpression.

1705
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: He escapes to his Leckowt Pitchers at the Slaton. He's

1706
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: a ten to the five for the touchdown.

1707
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 7: Tyron in the last second, just throw it out to

1708
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 7: Slayton who was wide open.

1709
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: Darius Slayton's four.

1710
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 9: Touchdown catch of the season, and with one forty seven

1711
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 9: ago on a half, the Giants are taking it to

1712
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 9: the Eagles.

1713
01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: It's now twenty three and to nothing.

1714
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 2: That kind of missed you in that call, Dan Now

1715
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: sounded so silent we knew seeing Ironically, I'm mad at

1716
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 2: you for talking over six.

1717
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: But Mark, I know where you're coming. There you go,

1718
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: perspective hits it again. Let's hit that again.

1719
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 2: Yes, flash point focus this week on the Eagles. How

1720
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 2: bad can it get?

1721
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 11: It?

1722
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 2: It keeps getting worse because they go down twenty four

1723
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 2: to nothing at the half at the Meadowlands to a

1724
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: bad Giants team and they lose twenty seven to ten.

1725
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 2: So they are on the road at Tampa next weekend.

1726
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: And Mark, I mean, listen, you tell us because we

1727
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: know there's injuries on top of this.

1728
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: AJ Brown goes out of this game. Jalen hurts.

1729
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: You can fill us in on all that, But how

1730
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 2: could you have any confidence in this team, healthy or

1731
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: not after what we've seen this last month or so?

1732
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 5: No, our flash point came at a at days before

1733
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 5: what would be the most concerning performance yet for the

1734
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles. Prescient and it's yes, because that's how that

1735
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 5: series works. A disastrous start to the game after they

1736
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 5: punt on their opening drive on the second march. After

1737
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 5: the Giants punted, they go down the field, A J.

1738
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 5: Brown makes a catch and is wired up in a

1739
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 5: couple of defenders, goes down and limps off the field

1740
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 5: with the knee injury. He's ruled as questionable and not

1741
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 5: too much later ruled out. And so suddenly you have

1742
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 5: a team that shows you what how they can get

1743
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 5: out of a jam when you didn't have DeVonta Smith

1744
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 5: to start in this game, you lose Brown, and the

1745
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 5: offensive line that we've trusted all along was barraged and

1746
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 5: ransacked by the Giants. They had like ten pressures on

1747
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 5: Hurts in the first twenty minutes of the game. I

1748
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 5: mean he was beat up. On the next drive, they're

1749
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 5: down three to nothing, and they go forward on fourth

1750
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 5: and three from their own forty eight and Hertz didn't

1751
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 5: misconnects on a pass to Dallas Goddard, and Hertz walks

1752
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 5: off the field with his like left pinky looking all

1753
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 5: crinkled and jammed up. And so it's like suddenly Hurts

1754
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 5: is going into the tent. He's banged up and jammed up.

1755
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: That does not say it.

1756
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 2: I mean it looked bad. I was like, I don't

1757
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: know if he's going to come back. And they look dislocated,

1758
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 2: is what it looked like. It was facing the wrong direction.

1759
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 5: He did come back in and in fact, like Nick

1760
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 5: Sirianni totally, he was somewhat like optimistic about hurts, like

1761
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 5: after the game, but what we'll see but in Brown

1762
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 5: for that matter, well, yeah, but Brown's looked bad.

1763
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,560
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see what happens with that.

1764
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 3: But Gariffolo says, not believed to be serious.

1765
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's like it's not just that though the defense,

1766
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 5: which has been run over left and right, I mean

1767
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 5: today it was different. Like Tyrod Taylor, who left the

1768
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 5: game multiple times too, is winging the ball down field.

1769
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 5: They put up two hundred and seventy two yards in

1770
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 5: the first half against the Eagles, who may and it's

1771
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 5: only one hundred and two of their own hurts.

1772
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,839
Speaker 1: And the entire offense and most.

1773
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 5: Of the starters are pulled before halftime because they're watching

1774
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 5: the score of the Cowboys game and the score of

1775
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 5: their own game, and they're watching the starting quarterback be

1776
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 5: dismantled behind their offensive line.

1777
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 3: Right, you would have thought they would have pulled their

1778
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 3: starters because they had such a big lead. They pulled

1779
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: their starters because they were already trailing by so much

1780
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 3: they had no chance to win. And the Brown injuries

1781
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 3: concerning although you know Mike Careful again saying it's not

1782
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 3: believed to be serious. Red Blankenship, who's really important in

1783
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 3: that secondary, left the game with an injury, and Cam Jurgens,

1784
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 3: their guard, left a game with an injury. So they

1785
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 3: didn't even sit those offensive linemen until Hurts left. And

1786
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 3: I think we can say enough here. The Matt Patricia

1787
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,879
Speaker 3: thing is it's not faster. Yeah, like it got worse.

1788
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: Stunner, So that I mean, and now listen, and we

1789
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: try not to be overly reactionary, but you asked the

1790
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 2: questions about what happens if the season ends worst case scenario, Well,

1791
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 2: we just completed a meltdown where they lose five of

1792
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 2: six to close the regular season. If they go down

1793
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: to Tampa and things stay ugly, the it can get

1794
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: catastrophic for people connected to that team. In a paid,

1795
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 2: It's like the fifth matter or sixth game in a

1796
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: row where you're just you're getting shots of Jalen Hurts

1797
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: on the sideline a thousand yards stare into a total

1798
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: abyss beyond an Orchard. I mean, it's just totally bizarre,

1799
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: like team to where they were a month and a

1800
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 2: half good here.

1801
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 3: Right, they always were not as good as their record,

1802
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 3: And I've seen some things as like, look, they were

1803
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 3: never that good. They were always you know, their point

1804
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 3: differential and their DVO was always like between eight and ten.

1805
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, but they weren't getting blown out by

1806
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 3: the Giants and losing to the Cardinals without a single

1807
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 3: without forcing a single punt like these last couple of weeks.

1808
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 3: It's gone to a whole new level of dysfunction. That's

1809
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 3: really rare for a team that had their record. In fact,

1810
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 3: it's unprecedented that a team that had a ten and

1811
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 3: one record or better finish the season this bat.

1812
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 2: And just like ten and one didn't seem right, this

1813
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 2: doesn't seem right either that they would beat this bad

1814
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: So the truth is somewhere in between. But the question

1815
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 2: now began becomes and this will be the biggest challenge

1816
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: Nick Syany Sirianni's had, is how do you get this

1817
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: team to flush this and show up and ball out.

1818
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: Now, the one thing we do know, and again we

1819
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: have a week to talk about this.

1820
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 2: They've been through the wars, they nearly won a super

1821
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 2: Bowl last year, and when the lights go on and

1822
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: they have a big playoff game, maybe things change. But man,

1823
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 2: it's at the point now where you can't be surprised

1824
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 2: if things don't change, because this just feels like a

1825
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 2: team that's inter free.

1826
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: It just feels like all aspects of the team are crumbling.

1827
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 3: Right. We should know Devonda Smith was not healthy enough

1828
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 3: to play this game, which that's a concern. DeAndre Swift

1829
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 3: had an illness which you wouldn't think would keep them

1830
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: out next week, but he also missed this game, so

1831
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: they were they were short quite a few of their

1832
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 3: skill players.

1833
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 5: All right, those Bob Poppawa mad coase. I mean, you

1834
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 5: don't they don't know what that would be the trouble

1835
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 5: you stuck. We don't, no, Like we never find out

1836
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 5: what that is when they say illness. It's not an

1837
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:07,560
Speaker 5: era mad cow disease. That was quite a thing. And

1838
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 5: then Y two K came and that was like the

1839
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 5: other big story in that era. You know, it's just

1840
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 5: like all these things that we couldn't Well, that was

1841
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 5: a bit fo gazy.

1842
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 3: I usually think it's COVID, but for some reason, like

1843
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 3: they can't, you know, no one can say COVID anymore.

1844
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 3: We went from like all these rules of a million

1845
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 3: different things to follow to be able to play in

1846
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 3: the games, just you can't even admit it.

1847
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 2: That's the cleanest way to move on. Remember whether they're

1848
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 2: cloning Dolly. They cloned the Lamb too, right late nineties.

1849
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 5: Man, I'm sure they've been cloning all sorts of things

1850
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 5: we don't know. All right, we mentioned the Bucks.

1851
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 2: The Eagles will play the Bucks in Tampa, but the

1852
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: Bucks had to take care of their own damn business

1853
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 2: in Charlotte to win the division and punch their ticket.

1854
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: Let's go to that buccaneer defense speech to buckle up now,

1855
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: first fifteen Carolina good snapping chest, high pressure, coming.

1856
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 11: Pulled, shipped away, chipped away by the Buccaneers quarterback cycle

1857
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 11: Chase ts with a sack of a strip.

1858
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: How the Bucks recover those fall Dude Jean Digger off

1859
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: with the call. Chase Chase McLoughlin kick three field goals.

1860
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: The defense pitches a shutout, including that strip of poor

1861
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, and the Bucks beat the Panthers nine zip

1862
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 2: to win their third straight NFC South title.

1863
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: Huh, that's a little surprising.

1864
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: But they were I think under five hundred last year,

1865
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: but they won the division and then got killed in

1866
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs big time. Brady year the year before that

1867
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: was kind of legitimate, and this year they found away

1868
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 2: nine and eight.

1869
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: So they win the division even though.

1870
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: Greg Baker throws just for one hundred and thirty seven yards,

1871
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: and this is a game that going into the fourth

1872
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: quarter I believe is maybe six nothing, So not exactly

1873
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 2: how you want to punch your ticket, but ultimately it

1874
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. The Bucks have and they get the very

1875
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 2: vulnerable Eagles in their house next week.

1876
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 3: If Baker Mayfield plays the way he played today next week,

1877
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 3: one of maybe the worst games of the year, I

1878
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 3: would say for Baker Mayfield three point three yards per play,

1879
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 3: Oh my good. In terms of their passing, does he

1880
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 3: look hurt? I don't think so, because he was throwing

1881
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 3: the ball so you got whacked fast. Yeah, the very

1882
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 3: end he did. Ever, he has this rib injury, so

1883
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 3: maybe that is all it. Some of it was decisions,

1884
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 3: some of them were just bad throws like missing deep

1885
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 3: throws by a lot. The Panthers actually got their hands

1886
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 3: on seven different Baker Mayfield passes. I counted four or

1887
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 3: five which legit could have been intercepted and this game

1888
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 3: would have been totally different. There's also some bad fumble luck.

1889
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 3: If you watch this game, you don't come away thinking

1890
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 3: the Bucks were any better than the Panthers. But they

1891
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 3: devoided big time mistakes. And yeah, that sequence we just

1892
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 3: heard that force fumble that was kind of the Panthers

1893
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 3: in a nutshell. The play before that force fumble that

1894
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 3: all but ended the game, the Panthers had scored their

1895
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 3: first touchdown since Christmas Eve on a running play to

1896
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 3: Chuba Harvard, but they called an illegal formation. It was

1897
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 3: the right call, but they had an illegal formation on

1898
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 3: like a thirty yard wrest So you went from a

1899
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 3: touchdown to the next play. Bryce Young fumbles at bray

1900
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 3: Ung did not top one hundred yards.

1901
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to tee up here because I know

1902
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: certain people, if they align themselves with you going into

1903
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 2: this game, are feeling good.

1904
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah you have.

1905
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: So you have a touchdown that gets called back, yeah,

1906
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 2: and you have DJ Shark doing the old I'm leaping

1907
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: for the pylon and then getting the ball knocked away

1908
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: and then turning into a turnover at the goal line.

1909
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 3: That was the Antoine Winfield in one of the plays

1910
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 3: of the year. He did that early this season. Was

1911
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 3: it against the Falcons. I don't remember, and he did

1912
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 3: it late That probably should have been the highlight. Anton

1913
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 3: Wilfield saving the touchdown.

1914
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: So they have essentially two touchdowns, yes, wiped away. They

1915
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 2: lose nine to nothing. I mean, you have lived a

1916
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 2: blessed existence in twenty twenty three.

1917
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 1: And the rain Maker he is just he is living

1918
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,759
Speaker 1: it up as well, just like your picks. Half points

1919
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: no problem for the Bucks, no sweat. I got some

1920
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: great message. You really stepped in it this year.

1921
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,879
Speaker 2: Man, you are having a wonderful season of good fortune

1922
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 2: and good picks.

1923
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 3: I mean this was good fortune watching it. They were

1924
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 3: very lucky. But it was great to hear from rain

1925
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 3: Maker Nation out there. Eric, I think we have some

1926
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 3: tweets we can fly out No. One One fan Richard

1927
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 3: says I can now fix my teeth, thanks Ice, Triple G.

1928
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: That feels good. That's foe.

1929
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 3: And then from David my eight year old being able

1930
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 3: to eat supper, Thank you thank you.

1931
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: You're feeling good. You're saving families, you're saving people's aesthetic.

1932
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 5: You know.

1933
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: Look, I don't think there's anything to say. And it's

1934
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,640
Speaker 2: your your season of picks, no matter what they may be.

1935
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: You've just been spot on. This one felt like money

1936
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 2: in the bank. But the Bucks finding a way to

1937
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 2: make it interesting. That is that's the game. I think

1938
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 2: that is the hardest for me to pick early on.

1939
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 2: Just so first glance Bucks Eagles, and feel like you

1940
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,839
Speaker 2: can go in about five different because.

1941
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 3: Don't forget the Bucks got whacked by the Sayings a

1942
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 3: week ago too. Yeah, I mean it's too bad.

1943
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 5: You can like talk about the fact that, like you

1944
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 5: probably only need to score three points against the Panthers.

1945
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: They've been eight scoreless quarters in a row.

1946
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 5: That's ridiculous, and that in their season like nose dives

1947
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 5: into into darkness, and we get that. But like Baker

1948
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 5: Mayfield and Mike Evans and Godwin had a pretty good

1949
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 5: connection in chemistry throughout their hot streak of late and

1950
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 5: in the last two games it's been not that way

1951
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 5: at all. And Baker Mayfield today did not complete a

1952
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:30,560
Speaker 5: pass over ten air yards.

1953
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 3: Oh for eight on those passes, maybe it is the injury.

1954
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1955
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 3: There's nothing that you would have seen with your eyes

1956
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 3: that you would have been able to tell, but he

1957
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 3: certainly missed a lot of throats.

1958
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: This is also who the Bucks and Baker have been

1959
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: this year.

1960
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 2: They've gone through their hot cold hot, and now they're

1961
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 2: a little bit cold.

1962
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 1: But they are in the playoffs, So that's that's a

1963
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 1: that's a victory.

1964
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 5: I will say when he's had upper body injuries before

1965
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 5: and he continued to play, like in Cleveland when he

1966
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 5: had that one season led to his dismissal, like it

1967
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 5: absolutely affected his throws and who he was in general.

1968
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 3: Right, There's some players that maybe play well through injury,

1969
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 3: and he should be appreciated that he's playing through injury.

1970
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 1: But there's other players that don't play as well through.

1971
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 2: And he's undersize, so you take away a little velocity,

1972
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 2: little zip, it could make a big difference, all right.

1973
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,679
Speaker 3: I'm glad Winfield by the way he got that play

1974
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 3: and a huge sack in this game. He did not

1975
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 3: make the Pro Bowls, and yet I think he'll be

1976
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 3: the first team opro, so I think people will notice

1977
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 3: from this game.

1978
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 2: He was the difference in this game. All right, let's

1979
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 2: take a break and we will continue our way through

1980
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 2: the NFC. All right, welcome back. We keep on rolling.

1981
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 2: So we entered Sunday Week eighteen with a messy NFC

1982
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 2: South and both the Falcons and Saints in contention for

1983
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Only one team was going to still be

1984
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 2: in contention after the game with the Superdome.

1985
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: Let's head there now.

1986
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 6: Second and chance from the thirty nine car play action

1987
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 6: stands now throw us towards the end zone and looking

1988
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 6: for Shaheed and Seed will come.

1989
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:05,480
Speaker 9: Down with the football. Derek Carr first.

1990
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: To alarm, even to receit s.

1991
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 2: Mike As with a call ww Algreg, you will love

1992
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 2: to watch this game in real time. It was very

1993
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,600
Speaker 2: interesting NFC South affair between two teams that don't like

1994
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 2: each other, and that's only going to get deeper after

1995
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 2: what happened on Sunday. After Derek Carr throws four touchdown

1996
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,560
Speaker 2: passes to lead the Saints to a forty eight to

1997
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 2: seventeen win over the Falcons, Atlanta mercifully was put to rest.

1998
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 2: With the loss, Saints were alive until the Bucks beat

1999
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 2: the Panther, so both teams missed the playsffs, but it's

2000
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 2: the Saints that close strong nine to eight. I think

2001
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna save Dennis Allen's job. We're gonna get

2002
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 2: to Dennis Allen in a second here, but let's start

2003
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 2: with what they were able to do in this game,

2004
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 2: which is what we saw down the stretch with Derek

2005
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 2: Carr and the offense just kind of improving in this

2006
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 2: last month. And Carr was very sharp in this game.

2007
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 2: Without Alvin Kamara, he was able to move the team.

2008
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 2: Chris Lave had another touchdown. You saw the Taysom Hill

2009
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 2: being worked in the way when this offense was going right,

2010
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 2: and he was making things happen. And when I think

2011
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 2: about this game, the other thing I'm going to think

2012
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 2: Greg is Arthur Smith. And there is a moment at

2013
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 2: the end of the game that we're going to talk about,

2014
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: But first I want to talk about when I think

2015
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith lost his job.

2016
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: It is the inflection point of this game.

2017
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 2: It's thirty one to seventeen in the third quarter with

2018
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 2: three sixteen to play, and the Falcons have first and

2019
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 2: goal at the New Orleans ten. They line up Greg

2020
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 2: Denmark four times in shotgun and Cordell Patterson gets the

2021
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 2: ball twice on runs, Desmond Ritter passes to Drake London

2022
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 2: for a two yard game and then on fourth and

2023
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 2: two from the two yard line once again had a shotgun.

2024
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 2: Desmon Ridder throws the ball and Bjon Robinson kind of opened,

2025
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 2: but he throws it well behind Robinson who doesn't even

2026
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,679
Speaker 2: have a chance and it's nearly a pick six turnover

2027
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 2: on downs.

2028
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 1: That was as close as Atlanta would ever get.

2029
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 2: And for Bijon not to touch the ball in that sequence,

2030
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 2: it was just like everything that's wrong with this team,

2031
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 2: everything that's wrong with a play calling and the usage

2032
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 2: of the best players I thought was on display. And

2033
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 2: sure enough, you kind of felt the air come out

2034
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 2: of the balloon for Atlanta, who just got spanked the

2035
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: rest of the way. And the game ends in a

2036
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 2: funky way because in the final seconds, it is forty

2037
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 2: one to seventeen, the Saints have the ball at the

2038
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 2: goal line. They are in a kneel down formation, but

2039
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 2: they hand the ball off to Jamal Williams, who set

2040
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 2: the lines touchdown record last season. I knew by the way.

2041
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 2: I was like, how did this happen? Because Dennis Allen

2042
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 2: says after the game that was not a call that

2043
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,839
Speaker 2: knucklehead Jameis Winston's on the field.

2044
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: He's the perfect person. And the and the and the huddle.

2045
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 2: They decide Jamal, who doesn't have a touchdown this season

2046
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: after setting the lines record, we need to give him

2047
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 2: a touchdown. And that leads to this interaction between Arthur

2048
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 2: Smith and Dennis Allen at midfield in the moments after

2049
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 2: the game his career.

2050
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 16: Oh, and Arthur spicks hot that Dennis Allen scored a

2051
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 16: touchdown at the end.

2052
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: He is hot, He said, what are you doing? And

2053
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 1: he's going to Dennis Allen. You can read his lips,

2054
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, and I think he's got it right by

2055
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 1: the way to do down.

2056
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 2: Hey uh, And it's effan bull s, he says. And

2057
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 2: then after the game, here is Dennis Allen on that

2058
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 2: final touchdown.

2059
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 19: We should have taken a knee right there. You know,

2060
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 19: they asked me about getting Jamal a touchdown at the end.

2061
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 19: I said, I wanted to take a knee. We put

2062
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 19: victory out there, and the guys kind of wanted to

2063
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 19: get him a touchdown and they did that on their own.

2064
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 2: That's not that's unacceptable and it's such a bad look

2065
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 2: for Allen, right, so you feel actually feel bad. And

2066
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm not a big Arthur Smith fan, but you feel

2067
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 2: bad for Arthur Smith because he knows he's probably getting

2068
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 2: fired the way this season ended, and then to get

2069
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 2: kind of spit in your face in the last minute

2070
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: of the game that way. But then Dennis Allen is

2071
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 2: saying he's a poly said, I understand that he's saying

2072
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 2: to Smith at midfield, but Dennis Allen is showing that

2073
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 2: the players don't respect.

2074
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 1: Him and will just audible out of a kneel down

2075
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 1: to get their buddy a touchdown.

2076
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 3: I was a mess.

2077
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: It is amazing.

2078
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 3: It's so saying they finished their season playing their absolute

2079
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 3: best potent getting there, our tribal coach probably out fired,

2080
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 3: winning by thirty and yet and yet they aren't going

2081
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 3: to end up making the playoffs, and that this is

2082
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 3: gonna be the image that they have leaving the season

2083
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 3: apologizing for the last touchdown in a win. And I

2084
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 3: was I was kind of wondering because I had the

2085
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 3: same reaction to you, like, man, this makes him look

2086
01:37:58,200 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 3: like his players don't respect him.

2087
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 1: Am I over reacting?

2088
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,719
Speaker 3: I saw this tweet from Ben Watson, who's a saint

2089
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 3: for a long time, a Walter Payton Man of the

2090
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 3: Year type of guy, and he wrote out, if your

2091
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 3: players are assistant coaches don't run the plays you call,

2092
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 3: you've already lost your team. If you're comfortable enough to

2093
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 3: tell the world about it, there's no turning back. And

2094
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 3: I think that does kind of sum up Dennis Allen.

2095
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, like I don't know what's going on

2096
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 5: behind the scenes in terms of like why there's this

2097
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 5: presumption that like we don't take a hard look at

2098
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 5: Dennis Allen and what he actually is because this always

2099
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 5: felt like a team that was just sort of like

2100
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 5: we're we're willing to be milk toast this year, and

2101
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 5: he is the perfect coach for a team like that.

2102
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 5: I don't it depends on who becomes available, but why

2103
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 5: are you not always looking to get better? I would say, though,

2104
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 5: if for the bright note for the Saints, because like

2105
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 5: a month ago, the whole Derek carthing was becoming so

2106
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 5: ponderous and it was like talk about quarterback health, like

2107
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 5: he played through a lot of pain and it affected

2108
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 5: his play the same way we say with potentially with Baker.

2109
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 5: He's been really really good over the last five games,

2110
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 5: multiple touchdowns in each of those games. He looked lights

2111
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 5: out today, and so you go into an off season

2112
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 5: where you don't have to like have him be the

2113
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 5: center point of every conversation.

2114
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 1: There's other things to focus on. They won four or.

2115
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 2: Five to close the season, so that this is in

2116
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 2: defensive Dennis Allen. They did get the ship back on,

2117
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 2: you know, over the sea line. I don't know what

2118
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 2: that means. The ship was sinking. He was able to

2119
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,679
Speaker 2: get it to the shore. And it doesn't matter because

2120
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:24,520
Speaker 2: they don't get the help they need from the outside.

2121
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 2: But the stuff with Derek Carr is always frustrating me

2122
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 2: because I know he's not a superstar, but when he

2123
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 2: was getting buried during the season is like a what

2124
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:33,839
Speaker 2: a bad teammate?

2125
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: What a bad quarterbacks?

2126
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 13: Like?

2127
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 2: There are a lot worse guys than Derek Carr. Now

2128
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 2: there are better guys, and they have to make a decision,

2129
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 2: I guess at some point, although I know this contract

2130
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 2: is he's gonna be, you want to shoot higher down

2131
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 2: the line. But like there are many other areas greg

2132
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 2: with this team that you can improve in the coaching

2133
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 2: staff is another spot as well that you want to

2134
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 2: maybe look at. But to their credit, they did get

2135
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 2: to the nine and eight and you know they're not

2136
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:58,599
Speaker 2: going to the dance.

2137
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 3: But they close a lot better than the Falk then sure,

2138
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:05,719
Speaker 3: and they had, you known, extremely easy schedule, and their defense,

2139
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:10,560
Speaker 3: especially Dennis Allen to me, is getting very creaky and disappointing,

2140
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 3: and they have to figure out how to get younger

2141
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 3: and better on defense, because that's why they kept Dennis.

2142
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 3: Sounds like we got to keep this defense which has

2143
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 3: been so good year after year after year, and you

2144
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 3: saw the slippage start last year and then it really

2145
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 3: came home to us this year where they were average.

2146
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 3: I do just to button up the Jamis thing, which

2147
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 3: is it is amazing that it was Jamis. Eric McCoy,

2148
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 3: a team captain who's been there forever their center, said

2149
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 3: that it was not intended to be disrespectful, but for us,

2150
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 3: it was about getting one of the most selfish players

2151
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 3: in the locker room that essentially moved to full back,

2152
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 3: Jamal Williams. They basically asked him to play full back

2153
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 3: for a lot time of the season, busting his ass

2154
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 3: with a positive attitude. It was to get him a touchdown.

2155
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 3: He deserved it, and it wasn't he was saying it

2156
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 3: wasn't just Jamis. It was a collective all eleven. This

2157
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 3: guy deserves it, and if it wasn't a collective, we

2158
01:40:58,479 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't have done it.

2159
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 2: So but that to me, So there's only a quarterback

2160
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 2: on the field, though the quarterback is an of the coaching,

2161
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 2: but there are nobody on the field.

2162
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 3: But McCoy might be the guy more than anyone that

2163
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 3: decides this. He's he's a captain, he's a center. He's

2164
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 3: the one hiking it. And they're all in the in

2165
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 3: the huddle and they decide we're not going to listen

2166
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 3: to Dennis Ol. That's worse than just Jamis decided. That

2167
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 3: was the whole team decided ten times ten, ten people

2168
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 3: worth right, right?

2169
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 2: But it is the center snaps it to the quarterback. Yeah,

2170
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 2: And I just think that is you can't can't do

2171
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 2: that and whatever. We'll we'll see what what what happens

2172
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 2: and what management thinks about how the season. It's almost

2173
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 2: fitting that's how the Saints season ends, even with a win.

2174
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 2: For all the melodrama, and I think people follow the

2175
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 2: Saints love the melodrama.

2176
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: You have this to chew on. Here's another episode of

2177
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: the soap opera for you what if he hadn't scored

2178
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 1: the touchdown? What if he were stuffed? That would have

2179
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:48,599
Speaker 1: been even.

2180
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 3: Weirder than that would have been really weird. The yeah,

2181
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 3: you're right, they won. It's crazy. They won for the

2182
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:57,719
Speaker 3: Nolan Care games convincingly well, but also because you remember

2183
01:41:57,800 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 3: the one primetime game which would have put them into

2184
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 3: the playoff. They weren't that competitive no, two weeks ago.

2185
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 3: So it's like, that's that's the same.

2186
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of the best of both worlds for Saints fans.

2187
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 2: You get to knock out a rival, get the coach fired,

2188
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 2: enjoy wins, and then bury Dennis Allen and the staff anyway,

2189
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 2: So enjoy it. Heartblunk all right, harb blanche, I say

2190
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 2: blunk all right. To lambeau Field, where the Packers are

2191
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:22,639
Speaker 2: looking to punch their ticket.

2192
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: Love unders and here's their handoff to showtime.

2193
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 9: Let's shock like tackles in inside the thirty five to

2194
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 9: the thirty one yard Chicago.

2195
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 3: There is your dagger, it is, Oh, there is your dagger.

2196
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: Great coach, who is that guy just screaming? Yes?

2197
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 2: One of my favorite tropes Wayne Larravie with the call

2198
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 2: that's Larry mccarrn.

2199
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 1: Yes, look at old all, liar. You always need a

2200
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 1: Larry around anyway.

2201
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the clinching run, and Jordan Love continued his

2202
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 2: outrageous play down the stretch.

2203
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,600
Speaker 1: He threw for three hundred and sixteen yards and a

2204
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 1: couple scores.

2205
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 2: Packers to the playoffs with a seventeen nine win over

2206
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 2: the Bears. The Packers have now won three straight games

2207
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 2: and they will get as we said, the Dallas Cowboys

2208
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 2: next week in Jared World. That is a nice one,

2209
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 2: all right, Greg, Jordan Love. Here's a stat I saw

2210
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 2: right before we came in. Eighteen touchdowns, one interception in

2211
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 2: the last eight weeks, so the season.

2212
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 3: When I think about the best games played by a

2213
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 3: quarterback this year, if you stack them all up, like

2214
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 3: the really memorable ones, Jordan Love played a lot of them.

2215
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 3: I kind of am having a hard time almost believing

2216
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 3: how good he is because just based on this second

2217
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 3: half of the season, he's playing like a top five

2218
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 3: quarterback or a future top five quarterback.

2219
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: That's the level that he's looking at.

2220
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 3: A defense which has played fantastic over the last six weeks,

2221
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 3: one of the best in the league, the Bears, and

2222
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 3: he's looking so composed when there's pressure, he gets rid

2223
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 3: of it. When they're playing soft, he goes short. When

2224
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,640
Speaker 3: he has a play to make that's special, he can

2225
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,639
Speaker 3: go make it. He had five incompletions in this game.

2226
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 3: Two of them were on improbably great throws that should

2227
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 3: have could have possibly been touchdowns. They also blew an

2228
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 3: end of the half sequence. They missed a kick. This

2229
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 3: was as dominant a seventeen to nine game as they

2230
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 3: could have possibly played four hundred and thirty two yards

2231
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 3: in only seven drives. They more than doubled the Bears

2232
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:49,760
Speaker 3: in total yardage. They dominated this game. They closed out

2233
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 3: the Bears with the ball and just killed the clock.

2234
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 3: That's why you heard Wayne Larvy getting so excited. I'm

2235
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 3: just so impressed with Jordan. Love to me him and

2236
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 3: see j Stroud this weekend. We're kind of the two

2237
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 3: biggest stories, Like, wow, we have two dudes and in

2238
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:06,799
Speaker 3: the biggest spots they really stepped.

2239
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 20: Yeah.

2240
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 5: And those seven drives, all but one went for fifty

2241
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 5: plus yards and a bunch went for way more. And

2242
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 5: it's like their offense, especially that Aaron Jones back, I

2243
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 5: think that matters a lot.

2244
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 3: He was awesome.

2245
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 5: Now, when your wide receivers are healthier than they've been

2246
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 5: through big chunks of Jordan Love's development this year. This

2247
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 5: is like a scary team and it's like a weird

2248
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 5: team for Dallas to have to deal with.

2249
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's kind of what I was saying, like, Yeah,

2250
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 2: this is not some layup team for Dallas on their

2251
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:33,639
Speaker 2: part too.

2252
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 3: I'm a little shocked here for touchdown to start. They

2253
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 3: get in early on that.

2254
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, as you said, rush for one hundred and

2255
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 2: eleven yards on twenty two carries.

2256
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 1: That's his third straight one hundred yard performance.

2257
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 2: So not only do you have Love kind of ascending

2258
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 2: to start him here, now the running game has put

2259
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 2: things together. Even the defense, which has been bad for

2260
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 2: most of the year, is putting together some Ever, maybe

2261
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:54,799
Speaker 2: the competition is in that highway.

2262
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 5: Well, they held the Bears to one hundred and ninety

2263
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 5: two yards pay well to ninety one after happen, and

2264
01:45:58,920 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 5: that's a couple of weeks in a row.

2265
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 2: So the Packers are hitting the playoffs with a lot

2266
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 2: of momentum. On the Chicago side, a ball here, Greg Fields,

2267
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 2: you said they did not get into the end zone

2268
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 2: in this game.

2269
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 1: He got beat up a little bit. We talked about

2270
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:13,759
Speaker 1: this as a final exam for Fields.

2271
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 2: Did you see anything here that would make the Bears

2272
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 2: pause if they were leaning one direction or another?

2273
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 3: Yes, because I think if you look at what Fields

2274
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 3: has done in the second half of the season, as

2275
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 3: he's played better, he still looked like justin Fields just

2276
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 3: sort of a better version of him, and today you

2277
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 3: saw some of the warts, which is holding on to

2278
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 3: the ball a lot. I think the Packers played really

2279
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 3: well defensively because in every key third down situation they

2280
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 3: were just winning up front Wyatt, Kenny Clark, and Rashaun

2281
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 3: Gary like that defensive line can save the rest of

2282
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 3: their defense if they're playing well, and so Field wasn't

2283
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 3: protected well. But you saw the limitations maybe of like, well,

2284
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 3: we got to count on defense and Fields being good enough,

2285
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 3: because today it was like Fields wasn't going to elevate

2286
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 3: them enough. And the defense defense in the NFL can

2287
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 3: come and go depending on the week if you play

2288
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 3: the wrong quarterback, and they were out class today. So

2289
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 3: I think it should make them pause a little bit.

2290
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:10,759
Speaker 3: I've never I've been in the camp that they're probably

2291
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 3: going to take a quarterback there, but it shouldn't be

2292
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 3: just on This kind of.

2293
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: Makes you wonder if like Luke getzi Oc could be

2294
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 1: in some hot water. You never know.

2295
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 5: I mean I the one thing that stood out for

2296
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 5: this game late just a small note because it's the

2297
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 5: end of Chicago's season, but like Fields to me clearly

2298
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 5: looked like he had been concussed or suffered some sort

2299
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:32,560
Speaker 5: of like head injury, and like he stays in the

2300
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 5: game and then they yank them like three plays later to.

2301
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:37,679
Speaker 1: Check him after his head was slammed.

2302
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 5: I think it was clear to anyone watching it, like,

2303
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 5: wait a minute, check him right now, don't let him

2304
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 5: go three more plays and he and that probably should

2305
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 5: have been a penalty. It was one break the Bears

2306
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 5: didn't get. I felt like Bears were getting a lot

2307
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 5: of breaks just to stay in this game. This was

2308
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 5: maybe the best game the Packers played, I think as

2309
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 5: a as a team all season.

2310
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 2: And the Chicago Bears have the number one overall pick

2311
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 2: by virtue of that trade with the Panthers last year,

2312
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 2: and they also have the number nine pick, so two

2313
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:10,879
Speaker 2: top ten picks, including number one, So not a huge offseason,

2314
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 2: one of the most important offseasons in the history of

2315
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 2: that proud franchise.

2316
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I really think it's gonna be with ebra Flus,

2317
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 3: which is risky. Tracy Wolfson, I thought had as telling

2318
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 3: a report about Eberflus as any woman. She talked to

2319
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 3: the president, Kevin Warren before the game, and Kevin Warren

2320
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 3: talked about how continuity is necessary for this team, that

2321
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 3: if you look at teams that can get it going,

2322
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 3: it's with continuity. And then he mentioned Dick for Meal

2323
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 3: specifically with the Rams, saying it took him till his

2324
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 3: third year till he won. So that's the president of

2325
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 3: the team is making the decision, all but saying ibra

2326
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:48,679
Speaker 3: Flus is definitely back.

2327
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 2: All right, Let's now move to Arizona, where the Seattle

2328
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 2: Seahawks were looking to keep their playoff hopes alive.

2329
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 1: But they were gonna need help. They got some from

2330
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 1: the kicker as well.

2331
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 11: This is going to be to win the game. There's

2332
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 11: one second left on the clock. Do the Seahawks have

2333
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 11: a winning record in twenty twenty three?

2334
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 3: Hey, it's matter out right now.

2335
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 11: A fifty one yard field goal, a temp five trader

2336
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,719
Speaker 11: off the left Hashmark Gillickan puts.

2337
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: It down, kick is away and the kick is no good.

2338
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 5: No good.

2339
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 2: Praider misses from fifty one Steve Abel with the call. Yes,

2340
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 2: Prader was wide right from fifty one out in the

2341
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks hold on for a twenty one to twenty

2342
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 2: win over the Cardinals, who finished four and thirteen. The Seahawks, yes,

2343
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 2: nine and eight. We now welcome in a man who

2344
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 2: knows you got those pipes?

2345
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2346
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 2: For the field goal, Well, yep, we got some pipes here.

2347
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 2: Nick Shook your thoughts on today's affair. First of all,

2348
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,559
Speaker 2: how are you? But I'm great.

2349
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 21: I'm imagining myself as an upside down goalpost right now.

2350
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: You could do all?

2351
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:09,600
Speaker 2: We all, aren't, I feel like exactly shook. Uh So,

2352
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 2: obviously Seattle needed Green Bay to lose. They didn't, but

2353
01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 2: you know, a nice way to end the season, and

2354
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 2: it was kind of a fitting way for the season

2355
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 2: and for the Seahawks ups and downs.

2356
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 1: A lot of close, close plays, close sub games.

2357
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 18: Yeah, very typical of the season for them. But you

2358
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 18: know what, the Cardinals, I got to give them credit,

2359
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 18: the PA people, the people who run the scoreboard, because

2360
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 18: they tried to engage in a little bit of mental

2361
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,639
Speaker 18: warfare late in that game. The Seahawks have a one

2362
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 18: point lead and the Packers have won, and they display

2363
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 18: it on the scoreboard during a break right off the

2364
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:44,559
Speaker 18: top that the Packers have won.

2365
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 21: Trying to take all that they go Homehawks.

2366
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 5: With like a banner and everything too. I mean it

2367
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 5: was like a pretty decoration, but the whole thing up.

2368
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 1: They really played it up. But good planning out of them,

2369
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: and the game like ended like thirty.

2370
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 3: The Packers game ended thirty minutes before the Seahawks game,

2371
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 3: so it went back and forth a while after. That

2372
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 3: just shows you know, the fighting ginos have a lot

2373
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 3: of heart in them. You can take the playoffs away,

2374
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 3: you can still get the win. They shouldn't have. Wonder

2375
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 3: missed a kick that would have put him up ten

2376
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 3: with thirty with about three minutes to go too.

2377
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 18: Yeah before that kick that we just rolled, Yeah, he

2378
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 18: missed another one that would have made it a ten

2379
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 18: point game.

2380
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 21: But you know what, you got to give a ton

2381
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 21: of credit to the Seahawks.

2382
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 18: This is you know, for all the games that they've

2383
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 18: lost this year in a variety of different fashions, they

2384
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 18: have been a team that's been able to pull out

2385
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,800
Speaker 18: close ones, save for that last second loss to the

2386
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 18: Rams when Drew Locke was in there for one terrible

2387
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 18: decision of a throw. They've been a team that's done

2388
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 18: pretty well in these situations, and they did well in

2389
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 18: this one. And it's funny because the second half of

2390
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 18: this game they were lifeless. They had nothing, they could

2391
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,799
Speaker 18: do nothing on offense, and they give up a touchdown

2392
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 18: to the Cardinals on the most interesting fake field goal

2393
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 18: I think I've seen in a long time, where the

2394
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 18: kicker is out there and then he's running to the

2395
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 18: sideline and suddenly Kyler Murray's taking the stap and throw

2396
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 18: a touchdown pass, but Gino gets down the field. They

2397
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:58,560
Speaker 18: take advantage of the missed Prader field goal. They go

2398
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 18: down the field for play, they cover the yardist they need.

2399
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 18: Gino drops a perfect one in the bucket to Tyler Lockett,

2400
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 18: and the only thing I could think of in that

2401
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,000
Speaker 18: moment beyond oh my god, I can't believe they completed

2402
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:09,680
Speaker 18: that past that was a great throw, was God.

2403
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 21: I wish they could do this consistently.

2404
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 18: They wouldn't be on the edge of being eliminated from

2405
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 18: the playoffs, which they were eventually eliminated from. If this

2406
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 18: was just who they were for most of the season,

2407
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 18: they would have been a much better team, and yet

2408
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 18: they were still almost in the postseason. Now you think

2409
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 18: about all that, you think, well, the future's bright. They

2410
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 18: got a lot of young studs on both sides of

2411
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 18: the ball. They got sharpone, they got Kenneth Walker, that

2412
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 18: got a receiving corps that rivals some of the best

2413
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 18: ones in the league. And they got a defense with

2414
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 18: Devin Witherspoon and some other guys that you got to

2415
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 18: get really excited about. But then you wonder, is Pete

2416
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 18: Carroll going to come back and coach again or is

2417
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 18: this his time to walk away? So there's still some uncertainty.

2418
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 18: I was happy to see Gino lead that drive because

2419
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 18: it's been an up and down year for him where

2420
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 18: he's kind of been the new Dalton line and I

2421
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 18: feel like he's a better quarterback than that. He should

2422
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 18: have been better, well, Carol said.

2423
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Carol said, he wants to come back.

2424
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we have. Actually him getting asked after the

2425
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 3: will they want him to come Not sure it's the

2426
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 3: final answer, but that's what he said. After the game.

2427
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:02,560
Speaker 1: You said, you love this team, do you want to

2428
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 1: run it back?

2429
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 6: Does it make you want to come.

2430
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 1: Back and coach him again?

2431
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 3: Of course, of course, of course I'd love to do that.

2432
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: Do you expected to do I do? I do?

2433
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:13,759
Speaker 3: At this point, I do, Yeah, that does.

2434
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 1: Not sound like a guy that's concerned about his future

2435
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 1: with the team.

2436
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 3: There was there was like an assistant to the ownership,

2437
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:23,600
Speaker 3: like or one of the people that kind of the

2438
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 3: executives that was sitting there in the second row watching too.

2439
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 3: I don't take anything out of that. Actually, I think

2440
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 3: in that we've seen it before. I just mean, wait,

2441
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 3: how did you know that? Because the Beat writers wrote

2442
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 3: about it or whatever, you know, they tweeted that out.

2443
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 3: They were like, it was pretty interesting that that he's

2444
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 3: sitting there.

2445
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 2: Like watching this because so laser focused on this situation

2446
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 2: and then the seating.

2447
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 3: Charge in there in this in this spot, I think

2448
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 3: if he was going to be going, he would say

2449
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 3: that no matter what. So I don't know, I'm not

2450
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 3: totally sure. There were the insiders were, including Ian kind

2451
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 3: of put it out there that maybe he would be

2452
01:53:58,200 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 3: walking away, but he seemed to tempt it.

2453
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 2: I was the comment I was making, was you equating

2454
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 2: Gino with the Dalton line, which the prime meridian of quarterbacks.

2455
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 2: Is there any question about his future quarterback? Or is

2456
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 2: that I think there's I think there should be.

2457
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 5: I mean, he was eleven for twenty two at one

2458
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 5: point in this game, and you know he didn't have

2459
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 5: that final drive and that was a very Geno esque

2460
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 5: and like it was very Seahawks offense esque too. But

2461
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 5: I'd say, you just have to look around and see

2462
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:28,879
Speaker 5: what you have. I mean, it's just like I wouldn't

2463
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 5: say I get I think you think I see you

2464
01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 5: think that Gino is like a better thrower than he's

2465
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 5: ever been in his career, and there's high quality things

2466
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 5: about him.

2467
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 1: He's a good leader at this stage. Like there's a

2468
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 1: lot of different elements to Gino.

2469
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 5: But it's like this is not a quarterback that you

2470
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 5: can feel like you can go win three playoff games with.

2471
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: I just don't feel that way.

2472
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 3: He just as the least of their problems. The dev

2473
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they want to get younger at

2474
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 3: the position. It would make sense to pair him with

2475
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 3: a draft pick basically, and he's on the second year

2476
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 3: of he has some guaranteed money coming in. But he

2477
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 3: was like eleventh or twelfth in PFF's great last year.

2478
01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 3: He's at the exact same spot, Like that's where he

2479
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 3: checks out to me, just like slightly above that median

2480
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 3: and playing well. Like he also tie or broke a

2481
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 3: record today, which that this surprised me even as a GENO.

2482
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 3: File the most go ahead touchdowns in the history of

2483
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 3: the NFL in the fourth quarter overtime this year, So

2484
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 3: by this measure, he had the most clutch season of

2485
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 3: all time.

2486
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy. It's pretty crazy. It also tells you.

2487
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 5: They weren't scoring a bushel of points before the fourth quarter.

2488
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 2: He's kind of like there's a correlation with him and

2489
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 2: Derek Carr in a way like, yeah, not the biggest

2490
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 2: problem on the team, but also like is he the

2491
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 2: future of your team?

2492
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 3: Is that the problem is you have a defensive coach

2493
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 3: and you just gave up four hundred and sixty six

2494
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:47,360
Speaker 3: yards to the Cardinals And this happens week after week

2495
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 3: after week, And like, yeah, there's in nick one thing

2496
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 3: because it's like I feel like this is happening every week.

2497
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 1: But Jonathan Connor.

2498
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 5: Got started slow today and I thought Seattle was like

2499
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 5: promising because they were shutting down Arizona's ground game, like

2500
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 5: in the first quarter plus Jonathan Connor ends up with

2501
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty on the ground in two hundred

2502
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 5: and four total yards. Like it's like this guy is

2503
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 5: in the shadows on a team that no one's paying

2504
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 5: attention to, kicking people's butts on a weekly basis.

2505
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 3: Said Jonathan Connor. That would be like Jonathan Gannon and Connor.

2506
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, matched up together, which I like.

2507
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 10: I know.

2508
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 3: I think we need a new segment, and I guess

2509
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 3: we'll have to wait till twenty twenty five.

2510
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 5: Thinking Jonathan Gannon and James Connor. But like James Connor

2511
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 5: has just been a punisher on a weekly basis.

2512
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 2: I would give Jonathan Connor running as well as he's

2513
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 2: ever run.

2514
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 3: It's Connor Corner with Mark Sessler. It's a weekly segment.

2515
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:36,880
Speaker 3: We have not gotten out of a card.

2516
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 1: It's a little work. I'm not gonna lie.

2517
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 18: I was trying to get an uncomfortable situation that I'm

2518
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 18: glad Dan just builed me out of because.

2519
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 2: I'm like to correct lately, I wish I loved anything

2520
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 2: as much as Mark loves John Connor.

2521
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 1: This year, I love James Connor.

2522
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 18: Look, the Seahawks run defense has been terrible all year

2523
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 18: and I think they ranked thirtieth coming into today and

2524
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:01,200
Speaker 18: like every notable metric when it comes to defending the run.

2525
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 21: So that's a big issue with them.

2526
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 18: That's a big part of why they have so many

2527
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 18: yards to the Cardinals and why they ended up being

2528
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 18: the team that they were.

2529
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 21: But you got to give a lot of credit to

2530
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 21: James Connor.

2531
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 18: He just had his first thousand yard rushing season of

2532
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 18: his career, and in a year in which they had

2533
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 18: to go through a couple of quarterbacks before they could

2534
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 18: actually get to the point where Kyler was healthy and

2535
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 18: available to play, they needed somebody to carry them and

2536
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 18: in certain games, the Dallas win being one of them,

2537
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 18: he did that. So I got to give him a

2538
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 18: ton of credit. He's had a good year. But if

2539
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 18: we really talk about the Cardinals as a whole, guys,

2540
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 18: this is not where I thought I would be with

2541
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 18: them when the season started. I thought it was going

2542
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 18: to be a disaster.

2543
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go well.

2544
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 21: The vibe around this.

2545
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 18: Team, despite finishing four and thirteen, is about as optimistic

2546
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 18: as it can be going into the offseason.

2547
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 21: I think there's a lot of.

2548
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm with you, and we talked about that on Thursday.

2549
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 2: Just feels like they're in better hands. Shooky always in

2550
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 2: good hands with you. You've been such an important part

2551
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 2: of our Sunday show for a few years now and

2552
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 2: he did that big lift for us with Lift nailed

2553
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 2: it pipe with Claybon when we were in England, and

2554
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 2: we'll be sure to keep you in the mix whether

2555
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 2: it's the playoffs or the off season.

2556
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 1: We thank you for everything you do for us and

2557
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 1: a great job on QB Index as well on a

2558
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 1: weekly basis.

2559
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 18: Thank you guys to feel privileged to be entrusted with

2560
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 18: this role both here in QB Index. It is very

2561
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 18: I'm very fortunate and I look forward to potentially seeing

2562
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 18: you in Vegas when we all contain now.

2563
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 1: Fit is strong.

2564
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 3: You know those playoff QB indexes, they'll test you. You

2565
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 3: know you're at the end of the season. You gotta

2566
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 3: you gotta stay sharp. You gotta stay focused. Like when

2567
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 3: you have to do leg day. You know it's like

2568
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 3: you just got to do it.

2569
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 18: Hey, you know what, It's one of the best things

2570
01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:39,720
Speaker 18: you can do for your body is back in legs.

2571
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 21: As a man, hit those gets a testosterone going.

2572
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 1: We got to do it.

2573
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 21: We gotta get that push in her face.

2574
01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 2: That's how shit goes out. On the regular season, thank you,

2575
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 2: my man. Give them around laws, give robots.

2576
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 5: By the way, there's a QB Index that your charged

2577
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 5: with if you're doing the column that comes out soon

2578
01:58:57,040 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 5: where you have to rank not not every single quarterback,

2579
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 5: essentially the last one. It's like one hundred this week.

2580
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:06,000
Speaker 5: This year, it's going to be like seventy eight people

2581
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 5: or something like.

2582
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 1: You know, we have We're going to get to our

2583
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 1: sandwich props later in the week.

2584
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 2: There's one that's connected to two long forgotten quarterbacks. And

2585
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 2: I was thinking to myself, how do you these guys?

2586
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 2: Are they even in the QB Index? But you just

2587
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 2: answer my question. Yeah, everyone's in the final one. Okay,

2588
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 2: all right, let's keep moving. It's time now for the

2589
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 2: Sunday Drive, presented by the first ever Toyota Highlander.

2590
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 1: Not a lot on the line for the Niners and Rams,

2591
01:59:34,720 --> 01:59:40,120
Speaker 1: but you know, pride matters. San Francisco twenty LA nineteen.

2592
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 20: After a twelve yard rushing score, the eleventh rushing touchdown

2593
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 20: of Carson Wentz career, his first start as a Ram,

2594
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 20: the Rams on the high side for the first time

2595
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 20: in this regular season finale.

2596
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 1: From the two snap play fake.

2597
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 20: Roll right, Wentz stups Wwentz throws.

2598
01:59:57,120 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 1: Back of the end zone, HiT's cots. Oh point conversion

2599
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 1: for Turbo to two mark, not even for JB. Long.

2600
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 1: For you, I really ranged it in there after what

2601
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 1: happened last week. Well you were going to reach out

2602
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:17,480
Speaker 1: to him after what happened last week. I'm sure you

2603
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 1: did that. I didn't see him at the barbershop, but

2604
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:21,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna cross paths.

2605
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 2: At the barbershop. Yeah, well, we'll all found that was

2606
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:30,520
Speaker 2: a great call by our friend J. B. Long and

2607
02:00:30,640 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 2: a great two point conversion throw by one Carson Wentz.

2608
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 2: Remember that guy who played for Matthew Stafford resting in

2609
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 2: this game, and the Rams hold on for twenty one,

2610
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 2: twenty win over the Niners. The Niners obviously had the

2611
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 2: NFC locked up, they're the number one seed, they rested

2612
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:49,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of their key guys, and it is the

2613
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 2: Rams that get their tenth win of the season. And

2614
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:56,600
Speaker 2: I think again, these things matter, GREGI that Sean McVay.

2615
02:00:56,640 --> 02:00:58,640
Speaker 2: They wanted to get into that double digit win. And

2616
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,000
Speaker 2: where does it put them in the playoff picture?

2617
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 3: It puts them in Detroit. So that two point conversion

2618
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:09,360
Speaker 3: and this subsequent force fumble of Sam Darnold. That really

2619
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 3: ended the game. I didn't want that to be the highlight.

2620
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 3: Felt I felt negative.

2621
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 1: Change their destination.

2622
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 3: They would be going to Dallas, they would be in

2623
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 3: the seventh seed if they didn't win this game, and

2624
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:22,160
Speaker 3: now they're in Detroit, they're the sixth seed. I don't

2625
02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 3: know if that's a better or worse matchup, but it's

2626
02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:27,200
Speaker 3: a spicier set of matchups to me because it gives

2627
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:28,840
Speaker 3: us the perfect.

2628
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,400
Speaker 1: Revenge game double header.

2629
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:34,400
Speaker 3: Here we love the McCarthy Cowboys and Stafford Rams and

2630
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 3: was impressive when sectually made some good plays in this game.

2631
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:41,720
Speaker 3: He led the game in rushing yards fifty six rushing

2632
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:43,200
Speaker 3: yards and seventeen attempts.

2633
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:44,800
Speaker 1: That tells you what kind of game this is.

2634
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:48,839
Speaker 5: I do like the idea of Stafford versus the Detroit secondary.

2635
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:52,800
Speaker 5: I think that's a sure promising matchup for them. I mean,

2636
02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:55,120
Speaker 5: we've been talking about all these coaches of the year,

2637
02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 5: and I understand what's happening in.

2638
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 1: The Desert, but like what Sean McVay has done.

2639
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 5: Honestly, from a year ago, at this time, it was like,

2640
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,280
Speaker 5: is Sean McVay like walking away from football? Is he

2641
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:05,560
Speaker 5: going to become an announcer is he burnt out? There

2642
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:07,640
Speaker 5: was a think piece about how he felt he was

2643
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 5: burning other people out around the building. It's like what

2644
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:12,440
Speaker 5: they've accomplished and what we could say with the Cardinals,

2645
02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 5: it's like low expectations for the Rams. It was just

2646
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 5: assumed they'd go win five games or something and bottom

2647
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:19,640
Speaker 5: out and then have to rebuild. And it's like, this

2648
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 5: is one of the better coaching jobs of the last

2649
02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 5: five last half decade.

2650
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:25,920
Speaker 1: In I know it sounds weird, but this game actually,

2651
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:27,280
Speaker 1: I think proves that point.

2652
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 3: Because yes, it was a lot of backups in h

2653
02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:35,760
Speaker 3: Trent Williams Auk Debo. They all started, but they all

2654
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:38,440
Speaker 3: left after one or two series, depending on which guy

2655
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:40,360
Speaker 3: it was. And that was true for like the super

2656
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:43,880
Speaker 3: duper stars on both teams. The Rams also sat a

2657
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 3: lot of people. Pukaakua played into the third quarter to

2658
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:48,440
Speaker 3: get his rookie record. But just the fact that there

2659
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 3: was so much spirit into Walker h. Just the fact

2660
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 3: that there was so much spirit like they were getting

2661
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:57,480
Speaker 3: they were all fired up, and just seeing the Rams

2662
02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 3: backups compete with the forty nine ers backups and come back,

2663
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 3: like I was thinking that wouldn't have happened a year

2664
02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 3: ago because the Rams starters weren't as good as other

2665
02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:05,160
Speaker 3: teams backups a year ago.

2666
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:06,080
Speaker 1: They're just a better team.

2667
02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:09,360
Speaker 2: Yes, they've really built that thing on the fly and

2668
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:10,840
Speaker 2: on the San Francis. I kept my eye on this

2669
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:12,240
Speaker 2: game in the first half because you know, I'm a

2670
02:03:12,280 --> 02:03:14,600
Speaker 2: Sam Donald fan. I thought he played very well, yeah,

2671
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 2: and kept the offense moving and Rock Party is a

2672
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:22,720
Speaker 2: starter if something happens to Rock Party. I think Donald

2673
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 2: has the ability to run this offense. And I thought

2674
02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:27,680
Speaker 2: you saw that in just the snapshot of this game.

2675
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 3: So twenty six yards for their offense after halftime, so

2676
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:34,640
Speaker 3: that the Rams backups mostly although actually there was a

2677
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:35,480
Speaker 3: lot of the Kobe turn.

2678
02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 1: A lot of their starters were in there.

2679
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 3: They lost Jordan Philler, their starter, but they locked the

2680
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 3: forty hookah is down in the second half.

2681
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 2: After that touchdown, he's one yard shy of the rookie

2682
02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:47,560
Speaker 2: wide receiver yardage record and I think two catches and

2683
02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:49,760
Speaker 2: the rest of the first half, they're desperately trying to

2684
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 2: get the record to get them off the field, and

2685
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:53,640
Speaker 2: they can't do it. They're trying to force it. In

2686
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:55,480
Speaker 2: the final ten seconds of the first half, so they

2687
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 2: could just shut it down. Yeah, and then apparently, as

2688
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 2: you said that, he did eventually did get it in

2689
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:03,320
Speaker 2: the third quarter and they could mercifully getting a coup

2690
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:05,000
Speaker 2: out of the mix before he got himself hurt.

2691
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,320
Speaker 1: So very good, very good.

2692
02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:11,040
Speaker 5: Tough day for Bill Groman, who previously had that record

2693
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 5: set back in nineteen sixty.

2694
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where Bill Bill Groman didn't at this

2695
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:15,920
Speaker 1: point can we give I don't know anything about the guys.

2696
02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:17,800
Speaker 1: And he did it in four for tho game.

2697
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 2: He could be like the Ty Cobb of the NFL.

2698
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what his background is or whatever. So

2699
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:25,320
Speaker 2: for he over praise him. But to have that record

2700
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:28,280
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty, are you kidding me?

2701
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 1: Offen that it's incredible.

2702
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 3: They had some they had some scoring back in like

2703
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 3: those AFL type team he was on, the Oilers unfortunately

2704
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 3: passed away three years.

2705
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 2: How many records, Greg, though, do you see not almost

2706
02:04:40,080 --> 02:04:42,320
Speaker 2: in the modern NFL that are your breaking records from

2707
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:44,800
Speaker 2: nineteen six Everything's in the last ere next year, right,

2708
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:46,880
Speaker 2: And he did it and then did it in fourteen games.

2709
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:50,640
Speaker 2: So Groman, Groman, hey, you recognize you.

2710
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 3: You deserve it.

2711
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:53,520
Speaker 1: Hope you were a good guy. I think you are

2712
02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 1: still in the mix for the bet he receivers. Greg

2713
02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:58,320
Speaker 1: Exford us that he's passed away, but he's left us.

2714
02:04:58,400 --> 02:04:59,040
Speaker 1: We wish the best.

2715
02:04:59,160 --> 02:05:03,960
Speaker 3: I mentioned that. Check that out. He died during twenty twenty.

2716
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 1: Did you say rest in power? Yeah? I second that,

2717
02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:07,160
Speaker 1: all right?

2718
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 2: And that was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota Let's

2719
02:05:10,600 --> 02:05:15,600
Speaker 2: Go Places. Learn more at toyota dot com slash Grand Highlander.

2720
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 2: Oh if it's the Sunday Night podcast after week eighteen,

2721
02:05:23,120 --> 02:05:24,160
Speaker 2: that could only mean one thing.

2722
02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:32,880
Speaker 1: Breaking news. Somebody's gone and it is Arthur Smith the Falcons.

2723
02:05:33,640 --> 02:05:37,400
Speaker 2: After it was reported by Tom Pellisero, the Falcons confirmed

2724
02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:40,720
Speaker 2: the dismissal of their head coach after three seasons, and

2725
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 2: here is a statement from Arthur Blank. Decisions like this

2726
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:48,480
Speaker 2: are never easy and they never feel good. We have

2727
02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 2: profound respect for Coach Smith and appreciate all the hard

2728
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:53,880
Speaker 2: work and dedication he has put into the Falcons over

2729
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:56,160
Speaker 2: the last three years. He has been a part of

2730
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:58,840
Speaker 2: building a good culture in our football team, but the

2731
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:02,280
Speaker 2: results on the field have not met our expectations. After

2732
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,040
Speaker 2: significant thought and reflection, we have determined the best way

2733
02:06:05,080 --> 02:06:08,120
Speaker 2: forward for our team is new leadership in the head

2734
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:10,360
Speaker 2: coaching position now.

2735
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 1: Additional reporting from Palsero here Greggie.

2736
02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 2: The Falcons say the search quote will be led by

2737
02:06:18,160 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 2: Blank and McKay Rich McKay, with input from Falcons General

2738
02:06:23,240 --> 02:06:27,840
Speaker 2: Manager Terry Fontnau and several other appropriate members of Blanks,

2739
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons and AMB Sports and Entertainment Organization. So the

2740
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:37,120
Speaker 2: GM appears safe, but Arthur Smith runs out of time,

2741
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 2: and as we talked about earlier, a grim ending in

2742
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:42,560
Speaker 2: New Orleans kind.

2743
02:06:42,440 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 1: Of set the table for this, and now Smith has

2744
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 1: to take a walk.

2745
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 3: You shout out to Rich McKay. I remember when he

2746
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:50,400
Speaker 3: was on the hot seat as their GM, like twenty

2747
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:52,720
Speaker 3: years ago or fifteen years ago, and then he somehow

2748
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:55,400
Speaker 3: got kicked up to CEO. So he's actually making more

2749
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:59,040
Speaker 3: money and has more responsibility and he's the one fiery

2750
02:06:59,080 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 3: and everyone steal how you do it.

2751
02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 5: He also got flagged for piping in fake crowd noise

2752
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:06,720
Speaker 5: into the Falcons facilities.

2753
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:08,120
Speaker 1: That happened too, Okay.

2754
02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:11,280
Speaker 3: I know Rich mckayson that the centerpiece here them putting

2755
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:16,240
Speaker 3: Fontinah in the statement is positive because I think Fontino

2756
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 3: has done a pretty good job. He's only been there

2757
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:21,240
Speaker 3: three years. It was a total teardown. And we talked

2758
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 3: about it earlier when we were talking Arthur Smith. It

2759
02:07:23,120 --> 02:07:25,960
Speaker 3: was just like the point of Arthur Smith, what Arthur

2760
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:27,680
Speaker 3: Smith was supposed to be, what he was supposed to

2761
02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:31,240
Speaker 3: do in terms of that running game specifically and his

2762
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 3: offense that and you saw it last year, you could

2763
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:37,000
Speaker 3: see it. It was totally gone this year. And so

2764
02:07:37,160 --> 02:07:38,840
Speaker 3: I think that's what killed the more than anything. I

2765
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:40,920
Speaker 3: think if they somehow were seven to ten or eight

2766
02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:43,040
Speaker 3: nine and they were competitive and they had the number

2767
02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 3: three running game in the league and they had some

2768
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 3: good numbers for their stars, I think he might still

2769
02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:51,040
Speaker 3: be there. But his strength turned into their biggest week. Yeah.

2770
02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:53,480
Speaker 5: Like what attracted me to the concept of like this

2771
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:57,000
Speaker 5: year's Falcons back in July and August was that there

2772
02:07:57,040 --> 02:07:58,680
Speaker 5: seemed to be a vision. It was like, even if

2773
02:07:58,720 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 5: the rest of the league's doing this, like Arthur Smith

2774
02:08:01,280 --> 02:08:04,160
Speaker 5: with Bijon Robinson and the rest of the crew is

2775
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:06,360
Speaker 5: going to try to go do something different, and you

2776
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:08,800
Speaker 5: kind of believed in it because we saw that blueprint

2777
02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 5: in Tennessee with Derrick Henry with Ryan Tannehill.

2778
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:14,920
Speaker 1: But the missing element like all along here and like

2779
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:15,720
Speaker 1: if We're going to talk.

2780
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:18,920
Speaker 5: About Tomigo Ryans being lifted up by the play of

2781
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 5: a young promising quarterback. Is that for years on end,

2782
02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:25,520
Speaker 5: like especially with like Marcus Mariota and then with Desmond

2783
02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:28,360
Speaker 5: Ridder this year, it's like the quarterback play. Whenever there

2784
02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:30,760
Speaker 5: was even an ounce of positivity, there are two or

2785
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,840
Speaker 5: three incredibly frustrating things that seemed to happen every game,

2786
02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:36,240
Speaker 5: Like didn't every Falcons game sort of feel the same?

2787
02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:38,800
Speaker 2: Well, they're the image that I'm thinking of right now,

2788
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:44,000
Speaker 2: because Ritter was Jackyl and Hyde on Sunday where he's

2789
02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:46,200
Speaker 2: pretty good in the first half and then just started

2790
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:48,520
Speaker 2: making mistake at the mistake. And the image that I

2791
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:51,000
Speaker 2: have that I'll remember this season is the shots of

2792
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith after yet another devastating Desmond Ridder turnover. He

2793
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:57,480
Speaker 2: rolls his eyes or puts his hands in his face,

2794
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:02,280
Speaker 2: and yeah, that's and that's organizationally where I I don't

2795
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:03,080
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith.

2796
02:09:03,120 --> 02:09:04,720
Speaker 1: I thought didn't do a great job this year.

2797
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:08,880
Speaker 2: But I also when they put Desmond Ritter, gave him

2798
02:09:08,920 --> 02:09:10,600
Speaker 2: this former third round pick and all of a sudden

2799
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:13,240
Speaker 2: say this is your guy in an offseason where there

2800
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:15,800
Speaker 2: were other options out there, put him in a bad situation,

2801
02:09:16,280 --> 02:09:18,240
Speaker 2: and then when they couldn't get the running game going, Greg,

2802
02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 2: as you're saying, it just kept on compounding and his

2803
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:22,320
Speaker 2: play calling.

2804
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:25,360
Speaker 3: Was suspect as well. It just it never came together

2805
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:28,760
Speaker 3: for this team with him. I liked him as a

2806
02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:31,480
Speaker 3: character in the in the NFL, and he's not going anywhay.

2807
02:09:32,120 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 3: Sure he'll be an offensive coordinator.

2808
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:36,000
Speaker 2: He'll probably highly into Madison OC because that's when he

2809
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 2: got the job at IT Tennessee.

2810
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:40,800
Speaker 3: He was probably not going to do that the McAfee

2811
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:43,960
Speaker 3: paid spots. I don't think he's getting you know, Aaron Rodgers' money,

2812
02:09:44,040 --> 02:09:44,520
Speaker 3: but he was.

2813
02:09:44,720 --> 02:09:47,360
Speaker 1: He was on there speaking of weekly, he was on

2814
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:48,880
Speaker 1: there speaking of just media.

2815
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 5: It's a it is a tough stitch and I know

2816
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 5: maybe not the nation isn't plugged in this, but like

2817
02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:56,160
Speaker 5: for Georgia Public Broadcasting, like I mean, they took this

2818
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:58,200
Speaker 5: whole story in a different direction. It wasn't you know,

2819
02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 5: Arthur Blank was on their channel. But it's like that,

2820
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:05,800
Speaker 5: you know, the whole story flipped that Silver Fox asked

2821
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:08,320
Speaker 5: the question to the owner that needed to be asked. Yeah,

2822
02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:11,760
Speaker 5: while a few weeks later, oh there's a change at

2823
02:10:11,800 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 5: the top of.

2824
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:16,000
Speaker 3: A breakup public trust really from Arthur Bank and he

2825
02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:18,880
Speaker 3: was getting he's getting the jump on it. The first

2826
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:23,000
Speaker 3: report of this came out at nine o two Pacific,

2827
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:27,280
Speaker 3: which would make it twelve oh two Eastern on Black Monday.

2828
02:10:27,320 --> 02:10:32,040
Speaker 1: So technically yes, it made it there and dismissal. Ben

2829
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 1: Bolan of the Boston Globe.

2830
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:36,880
Speaker 3: Is the only one I've seen reporting this, but he's

2831
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 3: been piping Belichick to Atlanta possibility for weeks now, and

2832
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:44,920
Speaker 3: so they have a gift opening.

2833
02:10:45,080 --> 02:10:48,280
Speaker 2: Well, Bill has what a seven am press conference East

2834
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:48,920
Speaker 2: Coast tomorrow?

2835
02:10:50,680 --> 02:10:52,720
Speaker 1: Kid, you really guy or the guy who was the

2836
02:10:52,840 --> 02:10:54,200
Speaker 1: coach of twenty three.

2837
02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just something feels funky, all right,

2838
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,480
Speaker 3: So there you go, and a lot of disqualifying, but

2839
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:04,400
Speaker 3: it just it's.

2840
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 1: A little weird.

2841
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 2: The week ahead is, uh, gonna be a lot of

2842
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:10,840
Speaker 2: fun here. So we got we're gonna do a little

2843
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:14,680
Speaker 2: Black Monday podcast. So that's another what are we up to?

2844
02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:14,880
Speaker 1: Now?

2845
02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:17,760
Speaker 2: That's four coaches gone, but the first one after the season,

2846
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:19,520
Speaker 2: after the regular season concluded, you.

2847
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:21,240
Speaker 5: Could almost say we just sort of did a little

2848
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:23,360
Speaker 5: bit of a tiny Black Monday episode.

2849
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:23,440
Speaker 1: A little bit.

2850
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we don't need no, no, no, I think

2851
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:28,480
Speaker 2: I think we you know, I feel like Ron Rivera,

2852
02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:30,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna learn about tomorrow and maybe a surprise or

2853
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:31,440
Speaker 2: two or three.

2854
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:33,680
Speaker 1: So that's what we'll be there for.

2855
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:36,520
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to Oh, let me uh, I'm

2856
02:11:36,520 --> 02:11:39,880
Speaker 2: gonna check in a tankathon real quick now that we

2857
02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:43,400
Speaker 2: have the draft order.

2858
02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:45,640
Speaker 1: So just did Nick get back to you on a Oh?

2859
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:47,760
Speaker 1: He did actually immediately.

2860
02:11:48,080 --> 02:11:50,360
Speaker 3: Very quickly. I thought he was going to send a video.

2861
02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think he's mad. I got your

2862
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:58,560
Speaker 2: live I got your live reaction. Eat Greg, sorry, eat

2863
02:11:58,640 --> 02:11:59,200
Speaker 2: poop Greg?

2864
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:05,000
Speaker 3: So okay, I love it. I mean I don't give

2865
02:12:05,080 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 3: him half the grief that his brother is, including Phil

2866
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:12,240
Speaker 3: do for his picks, his takes, and it is very

2867
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:17,240
Speaker 3: much on my radar now. A big race for second here,

2868
02:12:17,880 --> 02:12:21,240
Speaker 3: Hansas catching up and Hansas's radar too.

2869
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:22,120
Speaker 1: He's only one back.

2870
02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:22,320
Speaker 18: Now.

2871
02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:24,520
Speaker 2: All I wanted was the silver medal out of this,

2872
02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:28,920
Speaker 2: and I'm moving up to old charts all right.

2873
02:12:29,040 --> 02:12:31,040
Speaker 1: Here is the I'll take care of last place for you.

2874
02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:38,040
Speaker 2: Twenty four NFL Draft order, Chicago, Washington, New England, Arizona Chargers.

2875
02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:44,480
Speaker 2: That's your top five Giants, Titans, Falcons, Bears, Jets. That

2876
02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 2: is the top ten picks, with Minnesota and Denver on

2877
02:12:48,080 --> 02:12:49,480
Speaker 2: the outside looking in there.

2878
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:54,720
Speaker 1: So that is to put a bow on the regular season.

2879
02:12:56,360 --> 02:12:59,640
Speaker 2: As even if you're if your team makes the playoffs,

2880
02:12:59,680 --> 02:13:02,760
Speaker 2: it's a a very exciting time. When your team doesn't

2881
02:13:02,800 --> 02:13:06,320
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, even when it's a depressing season or

2882
02:13:06,360 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 2: a frustrating season, you miss it because it's like you

2883
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:13,320
Speaker 2: just went from three straight months every Sunday or you know,

2884
02:13:13,360 --> 02:13:15,360
Speaker 2: if you get a primetime game, having that to look

2885
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:17,920
Speaker 2: forward to, and now begins the long wait whenever your

2886
02:13:17,960 --> 02:13:21,640
Speaker 2: team exits the picture, whether it's now or sometime this month,

2887
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:25,480
Speaker 2: it's that long wait until you get football every week again.

2888
02:13:25,640 --> 02:13:30,640
Speaker 1: So another regular season of the books for us as well. Eleven. Well,

2889
02:13:30,680 --> 02:13:32,800
Speaker 1: you could follow another sport or two if you must.

2890
02:13:34,120 --> 02:13:36,880
Speaker 1: Eleven eleven regular seasons? Is that the number?

2891
02:13:37,000 --> 02:13:39,640
Speaker 2: Is that? That's it for our podcast, eleven. That's we're

2892
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:41,960
Speaker 2: up to eleven. So thank you to everybody for listening

2893
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:45,440
Speaker 2: to all regular season long. Thank you to Big Funk

2894
02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:47,440
Speaker 2: and Eric bind the Glass. These Sunday shows are a

2895
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:51,720
Speaker 2: major lift and they've done great work all year. We'll

2896
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:55,520
Speaker 2: be back Monday, full week of shows till then key,

2897
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:56,160
Speaker 2: the call