Speaker 1: I think people will realize when he retires and when
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to manage anymore, how good of a.
Speaker 2: Manager he was for one of the best teams of
Speaker 2: this generation.
Speaker 3: What up, everybody? Welcome to an oddball edition of Dodgers Territory.
Speaker 3: It is not Monday, it is not Thursday. But and
Speaker 3: we're not postgaming tonight because Alana is busy. She's better
Speaker 3: than all of us. But you got me, You got
Speaker 3: k dub is what I'm calling you today, or Katie
Speaker 3: Wu if you want to be proper about it. And
Speaker 3: you know, big win last night for the Dodgers, big
Speaker 3: win for friend of the show. Justin Rableski picks up
Speaker 3: win number ten on the season, strikes out the Shark,
Speaker 3: strikes out eleven, a career high, clearly inspired by me
Speaker 3: mentioning that he struggles with the strikeout pitch or has
Speaker 3: been struggling, and then he goes out there and just
Speaker 3: double birds it.
Speaker 1: Eleven k uh your territory, there's eleven k sorry about it.
Speaker 3: And then of course Doc wins one thousand. Before we
Speaker 3: talk about Dave. Just a few thoughts about the game,
Speaker 3: about Rableski, and also about what we can call it
Speaker 3: the shit show that is Sutter Health Field or park,
Speaker 3: whatever it is.
Speaker 2: It feels. I'll say this and you ask the players
Speaker 2: and they've said it.
Speaker 1: They've said it before, like the plane surface, but ultimately
Speaker 1: matters is the plane surface of the field. And for
Speaker 1: a field that is because when the A's aren't here,
Speaker 1: the Giants Triple A team is playing the River Cats,
Speaker 1: so you're essentially getting you know, one hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: plus games. The field is in really good condition, especially
Speaker 1: for a Triple A park, and given how hot it
Speaker 1: is in Sacramento for like the entire summer, the facilities
Speaker 1: are what they are, but everyone's just kind of making
Speaker 1: the most out of it. I will say it's a
Speaker 1: trip to do clubhouse postgame and have to walk across.
Speaker 2: The field after the game. That's weird.
Speaker 1: We're just kind of hanging out in center field behind
Speaker 1: the fence for media. We're like dodging foul ball during
Speaker 1: batting practice. It's very scary, very terrifying, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's weird. It's fine for three games. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to do it for eighty one.
Speaker 2: But I think.
Speaker 1: Everyone's pretty ready to get out of here and get
Speaker 1: back to Dodger Stadium, and we got the next nine
Speaker 1: games until the All Star Break at home, so that'll
Speaker 1: be great for everyone.
Speaker 3: Huge, get to stay home, not pack again.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: It's always a lot of Obviously, Alana will be back
Speaker 3: with us on Thursday. It's always a lot of least
Speaker 3: favorite part, most hated part of the job was packing
Speaker 3: for a long Roadie, guys, help us out. Subscribe to
Speaker 3: the channel. If we could somehow get to twenty thousand
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Speaker 3: be huge. We'd appreciate you for doing it. But and also,
Speaker 3: everybody sound off on the comment comments. Share your love
Speaker 3: for Dave Roberts, share your trade deadline stuff. We will
Speaker 3: be talking trade deadline. Yes it's early, but Katie did
Speaker 3: some work about it. But how about we talked Dave
Speaker 3: here in the big ticket number one thousand his career.
Speaker 3: That is a thousand wins as a Dodgers manager. He
Speaker 3: has one loss as the Padres interim manager. So suck
Speaker 3: on that, San Diego. Just just a guy, talk about
Speaker 3: a guy. That's a dude. Dave Roberts obviously friend of
Speaker 3: the show. I think I have a lot of thoughts
Speaker 3: having watched his team so closely over the entirety of
Speaker 3: his tenure, both covering it somewhat professionally, if that's what
Speaker 3: we're want to call this, and also as a fan,
Speaker 3: and you know the insanity that comes with the fandom.
Speaker 3: But you know you're the person who's there closest to
Speaker 3: Dave day in day out. You see the way he
Speaker 3: is received in that clubhouse. Talk about one thousand for Dave,
Speaker 3: what it meant for him, what it meant for the team,
Speaker 3: his wife, the players, all that kind of stuff there.
Speaker 3: What was it the sights and sounds of the clubhouse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously everyone was. Everyone was aware of it. And
Speaker 1: one thousand is such a significant milestone. Dave really strus
Speaker 1: is that players celebrate their milestones and achievements, so I
Speaker 1: think it's only fair that.
Speaker 2: His players do the same.
Speaker 1: And the Dodgers did their tradition that they do after
Speaker 1: every significant moment. We walked into the clubhouse in center
Speaker 1: fields after the game and there was a folding table
Speaker 1: propped up six bottles of champagne fresh off Miggey row.
Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman led the toast for Dave one thousand wins,
Speaker 1: the quickest manager to do so ever, and I think
Speaker 1: when you what has really surprised me coming in in
Speaker 1: my first year with the Dodgers is how much his
Speaker 1: players get his job. And I'm guilty of this. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people in the industry were guilty
Speaker 1: of this. When you see the roster that Dave Roberts has,
Speaker 1: you think, yeah, you better win with that. You're supposed
Speaker 1: to and anytime, you know, I had a Manager of
Speaker 1: the Year vote that always factored in, like Dave was
Speaker 1: supposed to win with this roster. And I think when
Speaker 1: we were asking players around over the last week or so,
Speaker 1: we were like, does it make it any easier to have
Speaker 1: this many stars to manage? And they said, no, it
Speaker 1: actually makes it harder because there are so many superstars
Speaker 1: and so many people that he has to really manage.
Speaker 1: I think that's the actual definition of a manager in
Speaker 1: these days is how do you manage the people in
Speaker 1: your clubhouse? And now that I've seen it, I completely
Speaker 1: understand what they're saying.
Speaker 2: So to hear the respect that they have.
Speaker 1: We talked to Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, Mickey Rowe, Tommy Edmund,
Speaker 1: Justin Rabuski.
Speaker 2: Every guy has something positive to say.
Speaker 1: About who Dave was as a person, and I think
Speaker 1: that says all you need to know about who Dave
Speaker 1: is as a manager. I'll go read through some quotes
Speaker 1: Bobby and our Die and I had in our story
Speaker 1: last night, this one from Mookie. If I can find
Speaker 1: it right here, let's just do a little search. He said,
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts is a special person. He's my manager, but
Speaker 1: I just don't really see him that way. I see
Speaker 1: him more as like a baseball dad. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I think that is what stood out to Dave Roberts
Speaker 1: throughout his career, the people and the players and the
Speaker 1: careers that he's changed so well deserved across the board
Speaker 1: for Dave Roberts, here's two thousand more.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Dave, that's a big thing. You know, it
Speaker 3: takes time to get to earn that kind of bravado
Speaker 3: in your clubhouse, but to I mean not, I guess
Speaker 3: say it in a crass way, to not really have
Speaker 3: to throw his dick around, because he empowers his club.
Speaker 3: He empowers his teams, his players, his veterans, even some
Speaker 3: of the rookies. He empowers them so much to kind
Speaker 3: of self police when needed. He knows when to step
Speaker 3: in and when his his tutelage or an arm around
Speaker 3: somebody's shoulder, like we saw recently with Dalton Rushing. He
Speaker 3: knows when to do that. That's the thing that makes
Speaker 3: Dave just such a special human for this job. Obviously,
Speaker 3: the managerial role kind of piggybacking off of what you said,
Speaker 3: it's changed a lot over the last ten fifteen years.
Speaker 3: And you could think back to Dodgers fans thinking back
Speaker 3: to the end of the Dawn Mattingly era, just the
Speaker 3: way that sort of ended. You you get him sitting
Speaker 3: a very cold towards Friedman and the rest of the organization,
Speaker 3: and they welcome in Dave. There's always a smile there.
Speaker 3: And yeah, we had a lot of growing pains. He
Speaker 3: had to learn how to manage on the job. He
Speaker 3: had to learn how to trust his instinct, trust some
Speaker 3: of the numbers when it came to bullpen usage. We
Speaker 3: suffered through it so at different times, as did he.
Speaker 3: You know, you could pick out a few points in
Speaker 3: the postseason. But as I talked to him a couple
Speaker 3: of spring trainings ago about everything has been learning, improving,
Speaker 3: getting better not just in his decision making, but the
Speaker 3: most important part of a manager's job these days is
Speaker 3: to keep that clubhouse in check. If Dave was able
Speaker 3: to survive, let's say the twenty seventeen club that had
Speaker 3: Andre ethi or brooding around with a mostly broken leg
Speaker 3: for most of the season and then coming back in
Speaker 3: September and having nowhere to play, Dave would be set
Speaker 3: up for just about everything to be able to manage
Speaker 3: through that. Flash forward twenty eighteen. A year later, they
Speaker 3: make it to the World Series. But what a weird
Speaker 3: roster you have. Cody Bellinger. You're platooning him a year
Speaker 3: after winning a Rookie of the Year, a year before MVP.
Speaker 3: Matt Camp is in that outfield, very much a salary dump,
Speaker 3: puts together an all star kind of season. Matt has
Speaker 3: been on the show talking about how awesome it was
Speaker 3: to play for Dave, and Matt was also in that
Speaker 3: outfield with Yasio Puigue who was at the end of
Speaker 3: his tenure and had been sent down. Just a lot
Speaker 3: of egos, Adrian Gonzalez losing his job to Cody Bellinger
Speaker 3: and kind of I wouldn't say being okay with it,
Speaker 3: but these guys buy into what Dave is asking of them.
Speaker 3: They all buy into each other because at the top
Speaker 3: is Dave saying, look, we have one goal, one mission.
Speaker 3: That's to go out and win a World Series. And yeah,
Speaker 3: it took us a little while, took Dave a little
Speaker 3: while and make it to twenty twenty. People have their
Speaker 3: thoughts about twenty twenty. That is the World Series that
Speaker 3: everybody was allowed to try to win, and the Dodgers
Speaker 3: did it. But now it's back to back champs and
Speaker 3: you just see a different the melting of the stress
Speaker 3: coming off of Dave's shoulders. And you know he, Katie,
Speaker 3: he said, one thousand wins, this is me, this is
Speaker 3: the team. These are the players that he's had. Kershaw
Speaker 3: was a part of a lot of those. Canley Jansen
Speaker 3: of saving a lot of those towards the end of
Speaker 3: his tenure. But to get the most out of your players,
Speaker 3: you need to have a good guy at the top,
Speaker 3: and Dave is the best.
Speaker 1: Maggie Roe said it best. He said, it's not about
Speaker 1: how you manage personalities in here. You're not managing any team.
Speaker 1: You're managing one of the best teams that's ever been assembled.
Speaker 1: You have more personal on top of your shoulders because
Speaker 1: you're supposed to win. So if you don't win, you're
Speaker 1: not a good manager, right But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's about the environment that we have in
Speaker 1: this clubhouse, and that's what separates Stock from the rest
Speaker 1: of the managers I've had. I think people will realize
Speaker 1: when he retires and when he doesn't want to manage anymore,
Speaker 1: how good of a manager he was for one of
Speaker 1: the best teams of this generation.
Speaker 2: Maggie row per.
Speaker 1: Usual spot on and like you said, Clinton, the growing
Speaker 1: pains are supposed to happen. There's no such thing as
Speaker 1: a perfect manager, but a manager that learned from his
Speaker 1: mistakes and can consistently promote healthy, good communication because it's
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like what he has to say a lot
Speaker 1: of the times they shouldn't. This isn't a just one big,
Speaker 1: happy family. This is a dynasty fun for one of
Speaker 1: the best influential teams we're going to see in any
Speaker 1: sport in our generation. But for each player to consistently
Speaker 1: say he's easy to communicate with and he's easy to
Speaker 1: play for says all you need to know about the
Speaker 1: culture that Dave Roberts has instilled in that Dodgers clubhouse.
Speaker 3: Roy in the chat saying nothing but respect for Dave Roberts.
Speaker 3: But honestly, amongst the fan base, it took a while
Speaker 3: for him to not earn that respect. But just when
Speaker 3: you have that kind of roster, Katie, will you understand
Speaker 3: it's not just the you know, for the professionals, the
Speaker 3: talking heads whoever, who say, oh, the Dodgers lost in
Speaker 3: the World Series, it's is that on Dave or that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, you know, It's also about the fans.
Speaker 3: Fans have insane, the ridiculous, mostly unattainable expectations day in,
Speaker 3: day out, each pitch and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: I've been doing this this shit for a while now,
Speaker 3: ten years, talking to Dodger in front of a camera
Speaker 3: here in some version of an office or a room
Speaker 3: or a bedroom through COVID and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: And what has brought me a lot of joy over
Speaker 3: the last couple of years is the comments. We don't
Speaker 3: unless it's people just dicking around with us, don't see
Speaker 3: fire Dave Roberts anymore, because there's a man that's earned
Speaker 3: the respect of literally everybody. And again one k for
Speaker 3: Doc faster than anybody. Somebody said in the chat, like,
Speaker 3: how did he get here, well, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 3: I had to get there so fast, a lot of
Speaker 3: damn good players. But also, you know, good decision making,
Speaker 3: bad decision making has all built him into the man
Speaker 3: that we see. Final thought on this, we're into season eleven.
Speaker 3: You have to wonder how much longer he really he
Speaker 3: can do this as long as he wants. Now, how
Speaker 3: much longer does he want to do it? Because you
Speaker 3: always see him smiling when he comes into the clubhouse. Yeah, really,
Speaker 3: he enjoys the hell out of it. Like five ten,
Speaker 3: does he have another d Is he going to surpass
Speaker 3: Walt Alson?
Speaker 1: Well, you know he's only fifty four and a manager speak,
Speaker 1: that's like a spry thirty, right. But it's interesting because
Speaker 1: he's one of the elder statesmen now and when you
Speaker 1: think about the managers that he came up with, you know,
Speaker 1: Bruce Boche, Buddy Black, these are guys that are you know,
Speaker 1: he's one of the only true like there is no
Speaker 1: Dessie Baker anymore in the league. It's Dave Roberts. He
Speaker 1: is that that elder statesman of the group. And we're
Speaker 1: seeing MLB the industry as a whole, trend towards those
Speaker 1: young managers you know you're looking at Look at Baltimore,
Speaker 1: look at the Nationals, look at San Diego.
Speaker 2: It's all the the new, up and coming.
Speaker 1: Hey you're thirty five cools come manage a ball club.
Speaker 1: But didn't used to be that way at all. So
Speaker 1: it's been cool for me to see Dave kind of
Speaker 1: embrace his role as one of the leaders the veteran managers.
Speaker 1: And you saw him inviting Cardinals manager Onie Marvel to
Speaker 1: the All Star Game. Those two have a really special bond.
Speaker 1: It's a mentorship theyer. I saw it in Saint Louis
Speaker 1: with Ali consistently praising how much Dave Roberts has been
Speaker 1: there for him. So, but that's just who Dave is
Speaker 1: as a person. He can do this as long as
Speaker 1: he wants. He's earned that right. He's a future Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer in my book. I don't think he has
Speaker 1: any plans and slowing down anytime soon with this team.
Speaker 2: Why would, Jeff.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting to see how the managerial trends are changing.
Speaker 1: But Dave Roberts will be a staple here for as
Speaker 1: long as he wants to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, cheers. A tip of the cap to Dave, congrats
Speaker 3: to the first one thousand. We're looking forward to the
Speaker 3: next one thousand. In the Dodgers' uniform. Guys are going
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Speaker 3: Got another opportunity to let it eat here with Katie Wiu.
Speaker 3: We are talking about the trade deadline the last thing.
Speaker 3: Last time I checked, it is July first, and trade
Speaker 3: deadline is not till August third. Frustratingly, but I also
Speaker 3: understand it. You don't want the trade deadline happening on
Speaker 3: a weekend. Still, I imagine your editor tasked you to this.
Speaker 3: Maybe you came up with it yourself because you're damn
Speaker 3: good at your job. But yeah, everybody wants to talk
Speaker 3: about the trade deadline right now. You pen to column
Speaker 3: on Monday given an idea of where the Dodger's thinking
Speaker 3: is at right now. In terms of the big names,
Speaker 3: everybody wants Trek Schooble, everybody wants to add I don't know,
Speaker 3: some sort of big name power bat even though this
Speaker 3: lineup kind of doesn't need it, and there's the thread
Speaker 3: the lineup kind of doesn't need it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, we're gonna we're hard launching trade deadline coverage
Speaker 1: here at the Athletic and it's July first, so we
Speaker 1: are obligated to talk about it, even though we are
Speaker 1: still a month away. So I'll preface this with things
Speaker 1: will change. The market has yet to be defined. It's
Speaker 1: already a slowly developing market. And we'll get into this later, Clint,
Speaker 1: because the entire American League is just not all that competitive,
Speaker 1: and who really knows what a seller's gonna look like,
Speaker 1: because you could be sub five hundred and sneak into
Speaker 1: a wild card spot if things stood today. So my
Speaker 1: initial prediction is that this trade deadline, this market really
Speaker 1: doesn't get defined. It usually doesn't start defining itself until
Speaker 1: after the All Star break. I dare to say it
Speaker 1: might be the last week of July before we truly
Speaker 1: know what's a realistic deal and what teams are looking for.
Speaker 1: But the Dodgers have a pretty clear plan because when
Speaker 1: you have the Dodgers, you can control the market.
Speaker 2: And we have seen over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: President of Baseball Operations Andrew Friedman has preferred to avoid
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. He wants to, you know, if anything,
Speaker 1: make little increments. But he said it before, if we
Speaker 1: are buying at the trade deadline, that's not a position
Speaker 1: we want to be in.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers not only have do they have the best roster.
Speaker 1: In baseball, they have one of the best farm systems,
Speaker 1: and they want to keep their depth, but they also
Speaker 1: have an area of need or an area that they
Speaker 1: can deal from to address areas of needs. And we
Speaker 1: talked about this in a column in The Athletic yesterday yesterday,
Speaker 1: where we know the Dodgers have one of the most
Speaker 1: robust outfield farm systems baseball, and they're lacking in other areas,
Speaker 1: specifically catching middle endfield.
Speaker 2: And you can make the argument upper tier minor league pitching.
Speaker 2: So what can they do.
Speaker 1: They could deal from one of those outfield prospects not
Speaker 1: named as Depaula and look to address an area of need.
Speaker 2: You're thinking a.
Speaker 1: Michael Bush trade in twenty four or even a Gavin
Speaker 1: lux trade. I know he wasn't a prospect then, but
Speaker 1: a similar concept essentially top prospect for top prospect deal
Speaker 1: to help balance the Dodgers farm system because they have
Speaker 1: I mean, we can go through the list of the Dodgers' outfielders.
Speaker 1: There's Depaula, there's a Wado Quintaro, There's Hope Sarota, James
Speaker 1: Tip the third that's kind of like the first tier.
Speaker 1: Right then you have the Kendall, George zach Erhard. Those
Speaker 1: are like the second tier. Those are just the game
Speaker 1: that the names that are coming to mind. You can
Speaker 1: even throw Ryan Warden there. In terms of outfield prospects,
Speaker 1: they can't have an entire nine person team be outfielders,
Speaker 1: so they have this area to deal from, and they're
Speaker 1: very thin on catching depth.
Speaker 2: In their minor league system.
Speaker 1: They don't have like a true middle infield prospect coming
Speaker 1: up in the future that they're super excited about.
Speaker 2: And you can always use more pitching.
Speaker 1: So can the Dodgers trade one of their outfield prospects again,
Speaker 1: not to Paula, for another prospect that can help balance
Speaker 1: their system.
Speaker 2: That's what they're looking to do as things stand right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I feel like you can use
Speaker 3: you know, five, six, seven outfielders down the road, you know,
Speaker 3: there's there's thing changes come into the CBA. But also, yeah,
Speaker 3: very much agree, it's not it's not the norm. And
Speaker 3: usually you know you mentioned the Michael Bush trade. At
Speaker 3: least it was obvious, like he made his debut, it
Speaker 3: was obviously there was no place, there was no space
Speaker 3: for him at the big league level because hey, they
Speaker 3: got this guy, Freddie Freeman. He plays the position, same
Speaker 3: with somebody like Ryan Ward older in the you know,
Speaker 3: the prospect age side of things. I don't know how
Speaker 3: many teams are going to really be clamoring for Ryan Ward,
Speaker 3: but we're talking about Brandon Gomes and and Andrew Friedman.
Speaker 3: Ryan Ward could get you the next tie here. Hope
Speaker 3: he could get you the next river Ryan, Like when
Speaker 3: they flipped Matt Batty a number of years ago to
Speaker 3: the Padres. I'm sure they're still pulling out their hair
Speaker 3: for a trade like that. So I do think it's interesting,
Speaker 3: and you know, fans have heard a lot of this
Speaker 3: as well with this club. You know, the Dodgers don't
Speaker 3: just think right now, They're not Yeah, it's win now,
Speaker 3: but you also think three, four, five, ten years down
Speaker 3: the road. That's how you sustained success, That's how they've
Speaker 3: won every division. Well, what is it now, twelve of
Speaker 3: thirteen divisions since twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. Whatever, math is
Speaker 3: not my strong suit, asked Mookie Bets. Ask Mookie Betts's
Speaker 3: age because we couldn't tell you. But I love this
Speaker 3: part from your Monday column. It's like it's gonna be
Speaker 3: wary of moves that could impede the next core of
Speaker 3: homegrown players. And yeah, there's there. They are not stacked
Speaker 3: with a lot of guys middle infield. You know, somebody
Speaker 3: might look down the road. I think it was their
Speaker 3: their first round pick last year or a year ago,
Speaker 3: Kellen lindsay he's still five years away, maybe four years
Speaker 3: if things go well, or maybe he's somebody that's traded.
Speaker 3: You got a bunch of outfielders now, might as well
Speaker 3: look to either improve your club this year or a
Speaker 3: couple of years down the road. Yeah, move in some
Speaker 3: outfield around for some infield makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: I want to focus on the starting pitching side, because
Speaker 3: if there is a need at this upcoming deadline, it
Speaker 3: could be the starting rotation. As weird as that sounds,
Speaker 3: as good as the rotation kind of has been Listen,
Speaker 3: Rokie Sasaki took a big step backwards in his most
Speaker 3: recent outing. Shean was good in his most recent outing.
Speaker 3: But still, if one of those guys are starting a
Speaker 3: postseason game, I feel the Dodgers did not do their
Speaker 3: due diligence at the deadline because they weren't prepared for
Speaker 3: one or both of Blake Snell or Tyler Glasnow returning.
Speaker 3: I've been saying. I said this on My All Dodger
Speaker 3: Show on Monday. I believe Tyler glass Now is kind
Speaker 3: of like the lynchpin in the decision making. If they
Speaker 3: don't feel he's trending forward in the next week or
Speaker 3: two and yes he's throwing a baseball now or you know,
Speaker 3: doing pitching activities, baseball activities or whatever. If he doesn't
Speaker 3: make good steps forward, big step strides forward in the
Speaker 3: next two weeks, they need to be calling the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts about the I guess glass Now
Speaker 3: I'm not going to corner you again with more Trek Skoobel,
Speaker 3: but thoughts about the glass Now factor.
Speaker 1: No, I think that's totally fair, and in a perfect world,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers can make the argument that their playoff rotation
Speaker 1: in some order is Otani Yamamoto Snell Glass now and
Speaker 1: you're thinking, yeah, that'll play.
Speaker 2: Certainly did last year.
Speaker 1: But it's a big question mark more Glass now than
Speaker 1: Snell at this point, very.
Speaker 2: Much so on his health.
Speaker 1: Because with with Snell, you know he's already throwing bullpens.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's scheduled to face live hitters yet.
Speaker 1: But glassnow is just now starting to throw again. And
Speaker 1: each time he's gotten to this point, he's tried to
Speaker 1: extend and he's felt the same nagging issue in his
Speaker 1: Now he seems to be feeling better, but as we've
Speaker 1: seen over the last two months, it really is touch
Speaker 1: and go here. That's why this next month is so
Speaker 1: important and why I think the market is going to
Speaker 1: take so long to define itself because a lot of
Speaker 1: these teams are going to try to wait it out
Speaker 1: as long as possible.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers don't want to add.
Speaker 1: Another starting pitcher and deplete some of this core and
Speaker 1: we'll get back. I'll explain why they're really against that
Speaker 1: later on. But in a perfect world that they have
Speaker 1: Tyler glassnew then they can justify saying.
Speaker 2: We don't need Schooble. The problem is.
Speaker 1: They can't bank yet one hundred percent on glass now
Speaker 1: being healthy, So I'm totally with you, Quinn. If he
Speaker 1: has another setback, I think that might change their strategy.
Speaker 1: And we know how Andrew Freeman operates. He's not going
Speaker 1: to go out and trade at this point though he
Speaker 1: really prefers to avoid the big splashes at the deadline,
Speaker 1: especially over the last two years. But they're not going
Speaker 1: to go out and just trade for someone who they
Speaker 1: think could help. They're going to go if they do
Speaker 1: this route, trade for someone that's really going to give
Speaker 1: them the best possible odds of winning a third straight
Speaker 1: World Series in this seller's market that again is still
Speaker 1: to be defined. Schooble would be that arm now. They
Speaker 1: don't think if glassnow's healthy that they might need him again.
Speaker 2: This can all change over the next five weeks. All
Speaker 2: this is so very fluid.
Speaker 1: That's what makes trade deadline reporting so fun is everything
Speaker 1: is changing all of the time. But if Glassnout wasn't healthy,
Speaker 1: it might change the Dodgers calculus right now, though they
Speaker 1: are so well positioned to be in the weight and
Speaker 1: see mode, and again when you get to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: not even until the later rounds do you need four
Speaker 1: starters so they can technically fly with Yamamoto show hey
Speaker 1: snow if they want to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this and you mentioned it earlier. The American League
Speaker 3: and that particularly that wild card, it's like every team
Speaker 3: is both in and out of contention at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they might, you know, earn a postseason berth, but probably
Speaker 3: aren't getting out of the wild card. You know, shout
Speaker 3: out Probably the as the team we're watching this week,
Speaker 3: not necessarily a playoff team, but that that bunch that
Speaker 3: we see on the screen now if you're watching, though,
Speaker 3: it's not just whether or not the Dodgers want Trek Scooble.
Speaker 3: And yes, you always want Terrek Scooble. You like the
Speaker 3: guys you have, But Trek Scooble is you know, a
Speaker 3: two time cy Young Award winner. You want to, but
Speaker 3: you're gonna have other teams clamoring for them. The Yankees
Speaker 3: could be in the mix, probably some way, somehow. I
Speaker 3: don't really know the state of their of their farm system.
Speaker 3: Got everybody go ask Derek Lewandowski on Pinstripe territory. He'll
Speaker 3: let you know. But that's a big factor that could
Speaker 3: ruffle or I would say upset what Dodgers fans would
Speaker 3: really love to see, which is another big splash I
Speaker 3: would I would caution people be wary of a slower
Speaker 3: trade deadline season a little bit like we saw last year.
Speaker 3: They made some random moves. You know, you you mentioned somebody,
Speaker 3: even if it's not an upper minor league, like upper
Speaker 3: tier minor league catcher, just somebody else to add depth,
Speaker 3: like they did last year trading for Ben Roertvett. Uh.
Speaker 3: You can see that kind of move as well, sticking
Speaker 3: in the starting rotation real quick. So let's say there's
Speaker 3: kind of I don't want to say it's a worst
Speaker 3: case scenario because I would say worst case scenario is
Speaker 3: like you know, Rally Metior falls on Dodger Stadium something
Speaker 3: like that, which would be less than idea. But that
Speaker 3: is a worst case scenario. But glas Now isn't healthy.
Speaker 3: They aren't able to land Trek Scooble. You are our
Speaker 3: resident Roki Sasaki apologist. I have I have been positive
Speaker 3: on him, but I've also questioned whether or not I've
Speaker 3: forced the positivity at times because every time we're talking about, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, he's taking these steps forward, he's looking good.
Speaker 3: We're also still seeing then era every time near five
Speaker 3: and that hasn't changed. Now we're into July. Can Rokie
Speaker 3: Susaki start a postseason game for this team if needed?
Speaker 3: And should he?
Speaker 2: I mean can he?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I guess set you up poorly?
Speaker 2: Should he?
Speaker 1: If the Dodge is being a fourth starter not named
Speaker 1: Tyler Glass. Now come October and you have Otani, Yamamoto
Speaker 1: and Snell.
Speaker 2: In your rotation. I don't think it's Sasaki on that list,
Speaker 2: on that depth chart.
Speaker 1: I think it's Rebuski. I think you go Robuski there.
Speaker 1: So can Sasaki start sure? Is it their best option
Speaker 1: at the moment? No?
Speaker 2: And that's okay because as we talked about, like.
Speaker 1: Roki is still progressing, he's still developing again. In the
Speaker 1: perfect situation, come October, the Dodgers pitching side looks like Otani, Yamamoto, Snell,
Speaker 1: Glass now and then a bullpen that is Diez, Robleski, Sasaki,
Speaker 1: Shean maybe a healthy River Ryan at that point. And
Speaker 1: that's not even getting into the guys that have carried
Speaker 1: the bullpenal season long, right, and the Tanner Scott's and
Speaker 1: the Alex Besias of the world. So can Rokie start sure?
Speaker 1: Could they play matchup. Could they piggyback? Sure, they can
Speaker 1: do whatever they want in the postseason because they are
Speaker 1: so deep. But if you're just naming a starter outside
Speaker 1: of the four at this point that warrants the most
Speaker 1: consideration is our friend.
Speaker 2: Of the show, Justin Raerbuski. He's the one that I
Speaker 2: would trust if it was, you know, and we say an.
Speaker 1: Emergency and it sound dramatic because he's one of the
Speaker 1: best pitchers in the National League this year. But if
Speaker 1: one of those starters isn't able to go and you
Speaker 1: need someone to start a playoff game, to me, it's
Speaker 1: for Busky.
Speaker 3: Put that fin up, Finn up. Are we doing that?
Speaker 3: Are they doing that in the clubhouse? I hope not,
Speaker 3: because they're all grown men there. I guess you know.
Speaker 3: I should add if it is an actual worst case
Speaker 3: scenario that would be Snell doesn't bounce back or Glass now,
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you need to fill two
Speaker 3: spots in that postseason rotation. But then again, you could
Speaker 3: also think back to two years ago where the Dodgers
Speaker 3: were able to manage with three and a half, maybe
Speaker 3: even like two and three quarter starters to make it
Speaker 3: to and through the Yankees in the World Series. I'm
Speaker 3: sure Dave doesn't want to do that again. I'm sure
Speaker 3: a lot of fans don't want to see that that
Speaker 3: sort of scenario happen again. Final thought on this, I
Speaker 3: mean we've mostly already addressed it, but flashback to two
Speaker 3: three weeks ago. I was hopeful, but I didn't think
Speaker 3: we would see this version of Tommy Edmund that we've
Speaker 3: seen so far. Small sample size for sure. I mentioned
Speaker 3: I think last week I could see, like if you
Speaker 3: have to gun to your head, bold prediction, maybe they're
Speaker 3: in the market for a second basement. I think they
Speaker 3: got their guy, and with Will Smith eventually coming back
Speaker 3: knock on desk here and of course Keiky Hernandez offensively
Speaker 3: lineup wise one through nine, one through thirteen, they feel
Speaker 3: like there there's no moves to be made.
Speaker 1: So I used to Execs love to like speak in
Speaker 1: their little cliches, especially this time of year, and I
Speaker 1: would get so frustrated when I would hear execs say, well,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to get this player back from the IL,
Speaker 1: so it's just like making a trade. And I'd be like,
Speaker 1: it's literally not like making a trade. But for the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: they can am I justify this because the players that
Speaker 1: are going to be coming off the IL as early
Speaker 1: as Evan Phillips, maybe right after the All Star break,
Speaker 1: maybe before, but it looks like right after all of
Speaker 1: these guys. First of all, I can see you guys
Speaker 1: comment about the color of my skin right now.
Speaker 3: I'm just literally just looking at that for.
Speaker 1: Me, like one hundred dollars room hotel night right now.
Speaker 1: And I'm using my light is quite literally a lamp.
Speaker 2: So just let it go. Okay, leave me alone?
Speaker 3: Can we add? You guys should see before I adjusted
Speaker 3: the temperature, I mean yeah, I did some.
Speaker 2: So poison. Anyway, back to my very important speech, the.
Speaker 1: Guys that are coming off the Dodger's IL are going
Speaker 1: to make them better than arguably any trade that can
Speaker 1: make not name school.
Speaker 2: So you think about what Blake Snell and Tyler Glass.
Speaker 1: Now due to that rotation, Edwin Dia is, Evan Phillips
Speaker 1: to that bullpen kick Hernandez to the depth. Again, we
Speaker 1: don't really know what the market looks like to its
Speaker 1: full potential, but right now, the guys coming back from
Speaker 1: the injured list are the Dodgers' second half editions.
Speaker 2: And then what they you in the second half.
Speaker 1: We know this, especially if they can really put the
Speaker 1: Padres away this series and kind of essentially lock up
Speaker 1: the division before the All Star break. You're just staying healthy,
Speaker 1: you're coasting, and you're hoping that when you get to October,
Speaker 1: you're playing for the buye. So do they need to
Speaker 1: go out and trade away from their farm system to
Speaker 1: add a middle infielder that's going to displace Tommy Edmond,
Speaker 1: who has come back and been one of the most
Speaker 1: consistent producers and contributors since coming off the IL. It
Speaker 1: just creates a bigger log jam, and they don't really
Speaker 1: need that because they have so many players already coming back. Now,
Speaker 1: another thing that the Dodgers need to be cognizant about,
Speaker 1: and they are, is sustaining their farm system and sustaining
Speaker 1: their player development because they've lost a lot of ways
Speaker 1: to augment their farm system over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: And we know that Andrew Friedman wants this to be
Speaker 1: a consistent, dynastic run. This is not just three Peter bus.
Speaker 1: This is a hopefully win a third straight World Series
Speaker 1: and continue being a perennial contender for the next decade.
Speaker 1: To do that you have to have a consistent churn
Speaker 1: of players in your system. The Dodgers lost what their second, third, fifth,
Speaker 1: and sixth round six round picks in the draft this year.
Speaker 1: They continue to take multiple hits in international bonus pool.
Speaker 2: They lost all of their.
Speaker 1: International bonus pool signing money almost when they signed Roki Sasaki,
Speaker 1: so they are losing ways to continue to replenish their
Speaker 1: farm system. The best way that they can do this
Speaker 1: right now is through trade with some of the talent
Speaker 1: they already have, so trade away again a need to
Speaker 1: acquire another need.
Speaker 2: That makes a ton of sense for me if you're
Speaker 2: the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: So they don't really have a lot of need at
Speaker 1: their major league roster and their major league roster right now.
Speaker 1: If they think they're going to get most of their
Speaker 1: help from guys coming off the IL, they'd like to
Speaker 1: address their farm system, and they're in a unique position
Speaker 1: with their outfield market to do so. All of this
Speaker 1: could change as early as tomorrow depending on the market
Speaker 1: in health, but for right now, that's where things stand
Speaker 1: with the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Speaker 3: And we also we've seen it year in and year out,
Speaker 3: particularly the last two years. Whoever is in left field
Speaker 3: or at second base or in center field if needed.
Speaker 3: They're just a placeholder for o oktober. You know, like
Speaker 3: this is keik A turns it on and as long
Speaker 3: as that obleak is healthy, he's gonna be fine. And
Speaker 3: one of the things I wrote down, because you know,
Speaker 3: I got a small idiot brain and I'll forget, is
Speaker 3: they do not what you're saying here to button this
Speaker 3: up in great conversation. I enjoyed this. The Dodgers do
Speaker 3: not over react. They do not. They read and react
Speaker 3: and they do it better than everybody. And again that's
Speaker 3: why they have been winning since twenty thirteen, since Guggenheim
Speaker 3: took over, since Andrew Friedman came in and started running
Speaker 3: the organization. They don't over react. And recently, I think
Speaker 3: it was Keith R. Nandez who mentioned watching PCA play
Speaker 3: against the Mets, they traded away pie Crow Armstrong, who Yeah,
Speaker 3: Dodgers fans, we have our beef with PCA. They traded
Speaker 3: away it for two months of Javier Baiaz and didn't
Speaker 3: even make the postseason. That would be the worst case scenario,
Speaker 3: and thank god the Dodgers don't do that.
Speaker 2: That's just I'll expressed us like that.
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Speaker 3: If it's me that's supposed to be doing it, I've
Speaker 3: been bad. I've been bad at it, and I'll try
Speaker 3: my best to do better at giving polls and things.
Speaker 3: But before we head out of here, I really hate
Speaker 3: the way the All Star Game voting works, multiple rounds
Speaker 3: and all that kind of dumb stuff, because I think
Speaker 3: there's just much like me in big dumb brain. It's
Speaker 3: hard to pay attention to when you're supposed to vote.
Speaker 3: But anyways, the point is you haven until tomorrow to
Speaker 3: vote your Dodgers into the All Star Game. We need
Speaker 3: more love for Andy po Hez, who is out on
Speaker 3: the outside looking in right now. Thankfully, months is the
Speaker 3: leading vote getter at third base, so he should be
Speaker 3: starting there. But woh, make your pitch right here. Implore
Speaker 3: people to go out there and vote Andy po Has.
Speaker 3: And also it's important to dote. You don't need to
Speaker 3: vote for anybody else in the outfield. Just vote Piz.
Speaker 3: Don't give them any more clout.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the Dodgers made my pitch pretty easy
Speaker 1: for me. They just put out a tweet saying Andy
Speaker 1: is just one percent away from being a starter at
Speaker 1: the All Star Game. So if you send the Dodgers
Speaker 1: a screenshot showing that you voted today, you'll be entered
Speaker 1: for a chance to win an autographed Andy po Has baseball.
Speaker 2: That's straight from the Dodgers' Twitter account.
Speaker 1: We've talked all season about how Andy pas is very
Speaker 1: worthy of this honor. He's not one of the best
Speaker 1: defensive set of hillers in baseball. He has bounced all
Speaker 1: of the lineup for the Dodgers. He's still producing in
Speaker 1: a number two hole that isn't exactly favorable for him
Speaker 1: in his overall swing, but it's Andy pa Has, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. He can get it done. I'll be
Speaker 1: one of the All Star Game this year. It's a travesty,
Speaker 1: that's all right. So hopefully, with the power of Dodger territory,
Speaker 1: we saw what it did for Justin Rabluski, can we
Speaker 1: do the same for Andy pa Has. I think it
Speaker 1: would be just so incredible for that, especially given Dave
Speaker 1: Roberts and his staff being the coaches yet.
Speaker 3: Again, and shout out to the name here reptar, we love,
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Speaker 3: I think you would have been just the that's prime,
Speaker 3: prime Rugrats guy. Another thing. A couple of guys, maybe
Speaker 3: future former Dodgers. They're making the All Star Futures games
Speaker 3: down there triple a minor league level. A couple of
Speaker 3: big names you mentioned, probably no Depaula on the trade market,
Speaker 3: but maybe and my favorite Mike Sioda. Uh you just
Speaker 3: tweeted this a little while ago. Are these final the
Speaker 3: futures rosters. Yes, okay, two Dodgers representing the Dodgers organization
Speaker 3: at the Futures game, which is Monday. No, it's a Sunday, right, Sunday.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the draft is. Everything is
Speaker 2: happening too fast. I can't believe it's a lie. First happened?
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 3: Yep, that's about it. Hopefully you guys enjoyed this. I
Speaker 3: enjoyed the show. This was a lot of fun. We'll
Speaker 3: have Riz back, and we'll also enjoy having Riz back
Speaker 3: on Thursday, twelve o'clock Pacific, three pm Eastern, after the
Speaker 3: Dodgers complete their sweep of the Sacramento Bullpen.
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